AnalogRev: Cheap "Full Frame" SLR Alternatives

[@yashwinning]

It's amazing how all the pictures taken with film in that video just look good. Doesn't even matter if the subject matter is interesting, or the picture itself is in focus or anything. Pictures taken with film just has that natural look to it that instantly makes it pleasing to the eye, while this exact same effect has to be emulated on digital pictures, and sometimes tweaked for hours

[@rick19471]

Image size on the negative or sensor plays a big part. I used to work with a 4 X 5 camera. It was not compact, but the images it produced were fantastic.

[@kishascape]

@@rick19471 indeed. And that was just the compact travel camera for when you didn’t feel like carrying the even more fantastic 8x10 camera.

[@goncalonorberto5593]

why did you stopped making analogrev... such nostalgia and feels .

[@sterby1]

Gonçalo Norberto This, we need more AnalogRev TV. Maybe Kai can do some decent Pentax reviews...

[@zreporter0118]

+Sterby jr. Yeah, i'm looking for Pentax Asahi.. :)

[@kartofellpuffer]

BRING BACK THE ANALOG REV PLEASE

[@kartofellpuffer]

***** Link please XD haha

[@ExplosiveKaboom]

Anal OG Rev

[@tk338]

I'd totally have gone with an A-1, not regretted buying mine! No auto focus, but for a film SLR and what they are today, its just awesome.

[@PCHCP011]

Alamby, I'm such a fan of your beauty Lok, I'm such a fan of your way with the cameras Kai, I'm a fan of ..............your humor mate

[@alexx09RO]

"I'll just go home and take my OM-1." Brilliant.

[@danielhuang3826]

I miss Alamby so much

[@iyot1020]

@Global Baba simp

[@KandiKlover]

@@iyot1020 fad boy

[@obscurelines]

I have to say that these are actually the best street pics this group have taken.

[@scott-ish404]

I was thinking exactly the same and wondering if that has anything to do with what's been said about "when using film, you tend to think more carefully about what you're shooting."

[@addibadi]

i like it how Alamby always ends up becoming the impromptu model for their pictures~

[@JeremyGalloway]

I don't think she liked it tho! It must have been creepy for her, she seems to have no interest in modeling. She's waaaay too cute for this industry

[@JoeTalks]

DigitalRev TV You guys definitely need to talk about Minolta lenses more. They're really good and can be bought on the cheap. I received a MD to EOS adapter as well as the Minolta 50mm 1.7 for Christmas and it works wonders. Could you do an episode for Vintage Lenses perhaps? And talk about vintage lenses for video?

[@zreporter0118]

+JoeTalks Just to know, in Serbia you can find cheapest Minolta for like 10 euros in good condition with lense. :)

[@bucksellers5364]

+Stefan Weiberg ..I love the X-700....I unfortunately sold mine a few months ago...It didn't take long to decide I had made a mistake....Now, I am looking for another X-700.... It is truly a GREAT camera !!... I have recently bought several old manual Russian or Soviet union cameras,...I'm enjoying using them...But I miss my old Minolta X-700..

[@FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904]

I have an X-700 with various lenses, i absolutely love it.

[@jamesschofield1683]

According to Ken Rockwell, 35mm film when scanned at around 9000 dpi is an 80 megapixel equivalent, whilst 35mm digital is near 40 currently but most use the bayer filter system (and not the superior foveon) so there's some quality loss. These cameras can be used for more than just as an experiment, I shoot on a 50e slr and a 5D mk2 with the same 50mm lens and I always get better quality prints from the 50e film camera.

[@scott-ish404]

I also had :-( two 50e's and regret to this day having sold them (can't get hold of decent E6 processors in Brazil). Among many great features it also has the eye-controlled focusing and it works wonders (if properly calibrated).

[@KandiKlover]

Ken Rockwell is a moronic idiot and a hack and says all sorts of stupid self obsessed BS like that that should be completely disregarded because he's just talking trash to inflate his ego.

[@dre400]

@@KandiKlover movies shot on 35mm (frames are vertical and so smaller than 35mm photos) is equivalent to 9K, 70mm 19K according to IMAX.

[@Zopf-international]

Thumbs up for Cecilia. Good people doing good things. I met a similar woman in Santiago, Spain and she was like, 80 years old. A pleasure being in her company. Wonderful shop with cameras and films loaded from top to floor. These small things make me very happy. Happy is good.

[@SlyRider78]

I love this show lol its like top gear for cameras haha

[@rich1051414]

I would almost go as far as to say they imitated top gears format here, but i love that show, so no complaints.

[@illumindonnie]

Thank you, for the Analog Rev episodes. Thank you for listening. I love you all. Awesome music by the way.

[@beeble2003]

Can't help wondering if Kai's difficulty with the eye-tracking focus system is that it can't see his eye through those shades!

[@mikem6419]

+beeble2003 He's also wearing glasses under those shades...lol...

[@klm6674]

+Mike M He's also Chinese.

[@AJ-wv3rs]

+KLM savage

[@bucksellers5364]

+beeble2003 ...I get that you are joking...but the fact is that those eye control features don't work anyways....It was a great idea....but they just don't work....not correctly anyways....

[@JG-bh9rz]

I've got an EOS 5 that works well, you have to calibrate it to your eye like a fingerprint, then its actually really nice

[@PeterSnodwind]

Your videos are blissful works of art, amazingly entertaining and consistent overall! Props to every person involved, specially Kai for being so charismatic. Digital Rev TV is a fascinating resource for photography enthusiasts and a great accomplishment, keep it up!

[@menthol-bonbon1726]

I just bought a F65 with Tamron 28-200mm for 5€ and it works!

[@chuckynorris434]

Menthol-Bonbon The F65 takes great shots hey and its name sounds like a fighter jet.

[@Seaweedmonster]

I cant believe how great the timing is with these videos if started looking at shooting film just before you guys posted this. Love it!!

[@pauldiwa]

i miss alamby

[@aarontimm]

tell me about it

[@verybang]

I like how you guys responded to the viewer's suggestion and changed the intro music. Very professional!

[@cocobolo_chris]

Lok makes great photos! love them! :-)

[@urbanlumberjack]

Thanks for keeping this old tech alive! We shouldn't forget where photography came from!

[@terrywbreedlove]

I am visiting from six years in the future to see Alamby again.

[@KidClassic1]

There is something about film that I just love, I'm always drawn back to my Pentax ME Super! I love the efficiency of digital and all the other technical perks, but its sometimes nice just to go back to the basics and truly test your photography skills! Great video guys, loving the new series!

[@jamie1234591]

You should do an Analog rev of old classic film dslrs e.g. OM1 vs Fm2

[@PeteRosos]

"The cameras of Dads' childhood are good." I couldn't agree more. I still have and shoot with a Nikon F3 made back in 1982. It may not be THAT vintage, but it still is designed with the manual shooter in mind. I've found that although shooting with manual focus lenses (as they all were way back then) while tricky, once you get used to it, is a lot of fun. You might miss a couple of shots, but the ones you get feel that much more satisfying.

[@juliannevillecorrea]

intro was cool !!!

[@andreasandrews]

The Minolta 7000 was my first SLR over 8 years ago. I still have it, and treasure it! Seeing it here made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

[@rich1051414]

Film gives photography a texture than can't be duplicated with dslr.

[@donmichael3781]

Hey DRTV! :) Thanks for using my version of your awesome intro music! Glad to be of service! - Don Michael

[@ericjang3753]

I must disagree with Kai's math. Because if you develop your own film the price goes down dramatically. Here's my math.After -$100 dollar for the developing gears. -5 dollar for good quality film if you buy in 5 packs. -developing kit (c-41) 25 dollar. Even though officially it develops 8 films. I have developed around 25-30 and had no problem with it what so ever. (C-41 developer is reusable.) cost %25 dollar. - The Math. $50 developer + $100 gears + (52 weeks X $5 film ) = 410 dollar. and that is around 1872 pictures. If your shooting film, you become more selective of exposure. So I think 1872 is a good number for a year. In the end I usually will only have 20 good exposures anyway.

[@keithartworker]

You guys bring so much happiness. LOVE the Analog Rev and its opening graphics Keith, North Carolina, USA

[@theonlyegg]

REALLY, dude? The eye control doesn't work because it needs to be calibrated and those big dumb sunglasses MIGHT keep the system from working.

[@aaronlivo]

Don't ever stop what you're doing, fantastic work!

[@paulschreiber3035]

the intro :D

[@ohaisean]

Glad to see videos coming out again as fast as the burst rate on a mark III... well sorta.

[@renemies78]

Alamby!!!

[@jkarlsonsrv]

Great episode! Nice to see a little love for Film. I also enjoyed seeing the largest collection of undeveloped film in the world. Thanks guys. Pentax Spotmatic and Canon T90 are my two favorite 'full frame' cameras.

[@CSLFiero]

What a hipster thing to say, the old old was good, the future is good, the near past sucks? Why don't you figure out which wrist you want to wear your watch on before deciding which era is best for cameras.

[@Phrenol]

It's not hipster if its true ya spaz

[@JeremyGalloway]

CSLFiero He's mocking hipsters with that statement, not being serious lol. L2british man

[@Blitzwing01]

A while ago, I randomly picked up a Minolta 7700i from the bargain bin of a second-hand camera shop. Never did put a roll through it but this video and Lok's commentary have inspired me to get out there and give it a shot!

[@logic123ify]

That guitar solo at the end sounds bokelicious

[@itsnotanexit]

11 years later and the sentence "1 roll of negative film + developing = $12" just sounds other-worldly...

[@aashimohamed2203]

alamby shootttttssssss welll

[@springfever2002]

Steve, give it a shot again. You first calibrate horizontally, after that, then you calibrate vertically. So run the calibration twice. After that, anytime you change lighting conditions, you calibrate again. The whole thing is stored in memory, so a calibration wont need to be repeated again after it is done. It takes a bit, but I've got my Elan IIe Eye Focus to work with me wearing sunglasses without an issue. The only problem is that your eye has to be centered in the viewfinder, not loppy.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

Wow... you've never understood how to use an A99 and you can blatantly say that A99 focus on background. I thought you were making biased review back then, and now I think you are making falsify reviews. For a channel of over one million subscribers it is actually a shame!

[@AmlanjyotiSaikia]

The AnalogRev TV bit was bloody brilliant !!!

[@newinspiration2108]

I keep watching this video over and over again because of the amazing new open theme!!!

[@FilMeHappyShooting]

thanks for coming, and lots of people love it!

[@GraffitiBMXskate]

I have a canon AE1 (Lovely camera), a Minolta 7000 and a Canon EOS 3000. I only ever use the AE1 for film - It's built much better than the others and there's something satifying about not having auto focus and a motor drive, feels like you're involved more in the process.

[@trevorsowers]

I love it when all 3 of you are on! I love using these film SLR's I have and use the Canon T90 as well as the EOS 5 EOS 3 and EOS 1V.....tons of fun on the cheap.

[@TJZ83]

A year ago I bought a Nikon F-601 for only 65$ (or 45€) and i really like it! It works great and after that I really started to thinking about to get a full frame DSLR. Working with an analog machine, after a Nikon D80, it's just so much fun!

[@ScoutBobrman862]

Would like to see a competition between the Nikon N90s VS Nikon F100. Maybe? Thanks Kai/Lok! Love the Analog-Rev vids!

[@howardmaryon]

also - it's great to see Lok in front of the camera again, he is so enthusiastic and genuine...... Kai watch out! lo

[@ChrisHelms]

I didn't have an EOS A2e, but I did have another eye-controlled focus camera: the EOS Elan IIe (EOS 55 to our international viewers). The Elan IIe eye control DID work when it was in portrait, but it only had 3 AF points.

[@lav3nd3r09]

Didn't expect those great results from those film cameras. Love the opening of Analog Rev, but Alamby is still the most adorable in DigitalRev.

[@largodeeprose]

If anyone is curious, the film CC suggests to the gang is Kodak UltraColor 400UC Lok takes her advice and can be seen loading the 400UC into his camera a few minutes later.

[@tempjohn1111]

Love the whole AnalogRev series. Please try to do an episode on the really analog days, like say with a Pentax Spotmatic era camera, or any of the great early/mid 70's Nikons.

[@crazykenbei]

That was an excellent point he made: "The cameras of my childhood today not so good. The cameras of my father and grandfather's childhood today very good." In fact those are the film cameras from that era that people take about and praise. Like that om-1 Lok said he would rather shoot with. And there's also today's children. The stuff they have now, oh man they got it so good now.

[@thomasjbrablec]

I like AnalogRev, even though I don't have a film camera. It's just entertaining and I love to learn new things. Thank you Digital/AnalogRev!

[@joak.vintage]

Lok's shot at around 09:01 is actually really nice. Lots of good photos in this video actually.

[@ve2vfd]

My black and white film setup is still an old Minolta X-700 with rokkor prime lenses... it's nice to put down the dSLR's once in a while and go back to basics with a few rolls of Tri-X

[@one42chrisp]

I really liked the touch sensitive feature on my old manual focus Minoltas, it worked really well. Too bad nobody uses it now.

[@TheNeoCreations]

I have a Minolta Maxxum STsi Panorama I like to shoot with on occasion. Film is still fun, and always a bit of a surprise, wondering what will develop. It's like Christmas every time I open up some newly developed shots.

[@jkarlsonsrv]

The Canon T90 (released in 1986) set the standard for modern SLR ergonomics even though it technically had a short "service life" before the EOS series was released. It was essentially a Manual focus EOS camera. Some may even consider it superior to the early AF Canon cameras. That multi-spot metering was and still is a great feature, and is replicated in very few DSLRs. (Canon's 1D/1Ds series are the only modern cameras that come to mind with this feature.)

[@sharp_focus]

More analog. One of the best episodes in a long time.

[@patrol681]

You guys (all of you,) put a lot of the fun back into photography. Keep the videos coming. Cheers.

[@TheHornet79]

I feel bad for you. I took a photo class that used SLR's during my senior year in Highschool last year (yes, you heard me right. Good old Black and white Film!). I had a great experience. We learned how to make prints, compositions, camera components, made our own portfolios, the amount of time and precise quantity of bath needed. I had a lot of fun and not many people are going to experience this especially as tech advances.I'm going to buy my first DSLR this summer only because I miss the SLR.

[@cub8556]

More AnalogRev!! Film cameras have so much more character than the same black plastic dSLRs that come out every year (Thanks Fuji for changing things up with the x100)

[@HesselFolkertsma]

Lot's of people are using film, myself included. Not for professional work, though medium/large-format camera's are still favored by landscape photographers. But for personal/artistic photowork where timelines aren't as strict it is still a popular medium.

[@simozonelayer]

I just bought an f65 with the standard lens kit; I was quite impressed with the results. I bought the lens and body from rockycameras website for £30 including postage. One thing though, you'll have to use DX coded film canisters (the standard now) or scratch/paint the canisters to push/pull the film.

[@mudgie069]

I still shoot film with a Nikon F80 and Pentax ME Super, also a Pentax 645n but self develop as film is much cheaper this way. There are still a few labs in the UK you can get a roll of 35mm film developed (negs only) for £2.50 and with a roll of Ektar at around £4 it's still reasonably priced. Again cheap films (agfa vista) can be bought from poundland for yep, £1 a roll :) Just got to know what your looking for and what you want from film. I love both film and digital :)

[@seventeendegree]

Lok's shot at 9:00 is gorgeous! Please more AnalogRev videos! I really would like to see Kai in action with a Hasselblad 5xx or the brick - the Pentax 67 II.

[@ALSutton]

Actually really good photos. Probably the best I've seen you all do.

[@ufo645]

Great video - very funny and informative as always. The analog cameras looked very interesting - didnt know about the canon eye tracking focus. Still, the calculation should have included the cost of prints made from te dslr. This would have allowed more expensive analog cameras to compete.

[@FrontSideBus]

I got an absolutely mint EOS 1N HS for £40 and I love it! All of my modern EF lens' work perfectly too!

[@jhill331]

I am a big fan of Minolta film cameras and lenses. I own a SRT 202, an X-370, and a Maxxum Auto Focus 600si. I even use my Minolta Maxxum lenses on my Sony DSLR and they work great. I would love to see more analog reviews!

[@edwinaun9182]

More AnalogRev!! Probably some of your best videos.

[@soothingsoundvideos]

love all the photos produced by Alamby, Lok, and Kai. That film look!

[@GhostHuntsman]

I bloody love analogue photography! Can you please do a video where do all sorts of funky stuff to the film like leave the roll out in the sun for a while or put it in the freezer and then take photos with it?

[@rurounix86]

Nice to see a return to form. Keep it up!

[@vladbogachov0201]

Thanks to AnalogRev episodes I got myself Nikon N90s and I am pretty impressed with it.

[@BorisG491]

the way Alamby's eyes roll is SO adorable

[@n3er0o]

I just love the images they make. They have these sort of washed out dirty but somehow really really cool effects :D

[@TajwarC]

I have a EOS500N and a EOS650D, both are just as good as eachother at taking photos. I don't see why film SLR's are so inexpensive these days, they work just as good as DSLRs, obviously less ergonomic but they feel so much more genuine when you use them, you never know what you're going to get, thats the fun of it. And they last MUCH longer than 3 years, my 500N is still working as good as my 3 week old 650D 16 years on! =)

[@YaoZoo]

Awesome Analog Rev Intro! A Redemption to the last two videos. please do Analog Rev every week! or two.

[@winedemonium]

Fun. I was wondering if you were going to get there, but from an equipment point of view you nailed it in the last 2 mins. I have been thinking about getting a Nikon F2. Please do a partII and talk about FILM as a medium.

[@raxmendorom]

I use a Contax G1 (AF RF) and a Contax RX (MF SLR) and both are great. the anticipation when you get your film developed is nothing like the instant satisfaction of digital. but then again, both analog and digital have their uses. and yeah, you guys should review more analog cameras (Hasselblad X-Pan, old Contax SLRs and Rolleiflex). Or do a film photog challenge.

[@tdelig]

Thank you guys, awesome video...I hope you make more of those A little bit of history is always good. Keep inspire us!!!

[@halovideo]

We need more AnalogRev Also, i got found myself a Nikon F-801s for £3, excellent condition, and a Nikkor 35-105mm AF for £40 with Box, so it is possible to get something a bit more advanced than the F65 for the same money

[@dbauernf]

The close-up shots (portraits) are great, all of 'em!

[@franklohmann7178]

Funny, the analog shots are all better than what digitalrev ever shot with digital. Way to go, analogrev !

[@mrgolftennisviolin]

I'd love to see Lok do a video with his OM-1!! Still my favorite camera :)

[@caloss2]

DigitalRevCom is pretty much the same format as UK TOPGEAR, which is why I like it so much :)

[@ZidaneTr]

best part of this video? the awesome analogue intro tune!

[@TravTraktor]

Great vid, I've recently been buying up a few old film bodies to do exactly this! More analogrev please!

[@averageGoat_meh_eh_eh_eh]

Loved this episode. I entered into the photographic society with a 5D mkii + ef 50mm 1.2 and felt compeled to sell it in order to buy the 5D mkiii. Along the way my multi-cam lecturer introduced me to James Nachtwey and Mary Ellen Mark. I then gained interest in film and decided to buy a Canon 1v hs. I've shot about 15 rolls of Porta 160 and 400 TX and have only developed one roll. I still planing on getting a mkiii very soon. This episode is making me very excited :)

[@springfever2002]

It's based on camera. The film will judge the ISO performance, while the camera does the focusing. Many Canon's in the day had an IR light, that is found on flashes to help with low light performance. This was a good system in that you didn't blind or interrupt a scene just because your camera coundn't focus in low light.

[@quagsoul]

I have a load of film SLRs, and I love them more than my DSLR Canon AE-1 Program and the Minolta Dynax 5 are the ones I use the most, and they're top quality IMO. Especially the Minolta, that thing is surprisingly good.

+Banananana Toomoe I love the Minolta 5, its metrics and AF are always on spot, even in tricky conditions ! And for 1999, it was quite a performance for a "consumer" camera !

[@oc2phish07]

+Banananana Toomoe Along with my Nikon DSLRs I still use a Nikon F801s and a Minolta 5000 regularly as well as several other film SLRs on an occasional basis. Olympus OM-1, Nikon FN, Nikon F401, Cosina Hi-Lite, Fujica ST605, Praktica Nova 1, Praktica MTL 3 and Pentax MV 1. There is something very satisfying about the feel of these old cameras and film itself.

[@photographe06]

Kai's photos towards the end were very good.

[@thiswoodwork]

Bi-weekly is an ambiguous term, do you mean every other week or twice a week? Sounds good either way! Apologies for the Big Bang Theory quote BTW.