Analyzing Evil: Rian Johnson From Disney Lucasfilm

[@potatoabe-letsplays5881]

“Don’t you love it when people hate your movie.” - Rian Johnson, the Visionary

[@hermitcard4494]

Ruin Johnson.

[@Captain-Thievius]

Tell me Rian, how has that been working out for your career?

[@mattburke5491]

Only a cuck would have his name spelled Rian 😂

[@mattburke5491]

Only a cuckk spells his name Rian. 😂

[@randomusername3873]

George Lucas was so angry when everyone liked star wars😂

[@darkcommander82]

I read an article where in an interview Rian Johnson said he hated fanbases and later enjoyed hearing how his choices split the fans. This man should have never been directing this film.

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

Do you know where you saw the article?

[@darkcommander82]

@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 I'm sorry, but I do not, I read it online, I believe it came out around the time Trovorrow's script hit the internet. I was seeing the image of "Your snoke theory sucks" a lot.

[@thenosebud]

JJ Abrams ruined my Dad's hero (Han Solo), Rian ruined mine (Luke).

[@Avalon64]

Disney paid them both to do both tasks...

[@sunlessshadow9498]

And then JJ Came back to ruin Vader/Anakin’s sacrifice by bringing palpatine back with no explanation.

[@thenosebud]

@@sunlessshadow9498 no no they explained it. They said he “somehow” came back, remember?

[@Avalon64]

@@sunlessshadow9498 but blah blah blah mystery box! Wasn't it cool to see Palpatine back with no explanation because that was the hack's only idea to cover for the last hack killing off the main villain super unceremoniously!

[@mr.j1381]

I wish your dad and you had better heros.

[@fnord4960]

“Rian” instead of “Ryan”, even his name is a subversion.

[@treystephens6166]

Is he a Jewel 💎 ???

[@Captain-Thievius]

Like every Hipster, Roundhead thought spelling it with the letter Y was too mainstream.

[@treystephens6166]

@@Captain-Thievius there’s nothing more pathetic than a aging hipster.

[@trufreedom]

I thought it was Rain

[@Captain-Thievius]

@@treystephens6166 Agreed.

[@maxmaple3520]

Luke was always my favorite character in Star Wars and seeing Rian Johnson butcher him like that in TLJ was beyond insulting.

[@mattburke5491]

With all the stupid crap he’s done with biden i’m happy he got embarrassed in that dumb movie now.

[@smakfu1375]

If I ever find myself face to face with Rian Johnson, all 6’6” and 240lbs of me is going to let the hate flow through me and hurt him in ways Vader wouldn’t understand.

[@mattburke5491]

@@smakfu1375 he’ll just call you a bot ☠️

[@timefilm]

Didn't JJ put Skywalker in hiding?

[@NKA23]

Yup. When I was a kid, Han Solo to me was the "dad I'd like to have" and Luke was "the big brother I wanted to be like". As a 44yo I had to witness my "ideal dad" being murdered by that fucking emo kid and as a 46yo I had to watch my "ideal brother" being a grumpy, cynical failure. Yes, it was beyond insulting, it was heartbreaking....

[@JustLikeTheSimulations]

I’ll never forget what they did to Luke Skywalker. It doesn’t feel like Star Wars anymore.

[@leclue22]

Rian said that he didn’t care if half the people who saw his film hated it, which is the motto of a performance office who mistakes pissing people off as being a form of art.

[@PizzaTime1983]

That's how to make a movie. If ur trying to please everyone than u end up not pleasing anyone at all. U have to make the movie for urself first n foremost.

[@blade8741]

​@@PizzaTime1983 Then dont make a movie and show to people if you dont want to make something good. You need to have some semblance of a audience.

[@PizzaTime1983]

@blade8741 u always want to make smthg good. U clearly didn't understand wat I said. But u can't predict how ppl are going to like your movie. It is always best to make it the way u want to make it. Yur vision. No one else's. Like I said, if u make smthg for everyone, yur pleasing no one. For the most part. There are exceptions.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Ohhhh I hate the "Star Wars was dead after 2005" narrative so much. I love it when people call that out.

[@zzygyy]

Books and video games kept it going. 👍

[@ironinquisitor3656]

@@zzygyy Indeed!

[@darthlucasfuu]

People who said that was clearly not Star Wars fans, just pretenders! I mean, we had Republic (1998 - 2006), The Clone Wars Adventures comics (2003 - 2007), Dark Times, Legacy of the Force, Legacy, Darth Bane Trilogy, The Force Unleashed (games, comic, novelization), etc. So much good material, just a non fan to claim that the franchise was dead after 2005! Star Wars was totally on fire in the 2000s! Lol

[@saberiandream316]

Better books and comics than we're getting now. And we still lived in the golden age of Star Wars video games.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

GREAT J.J.PLAGIARISMS RIAN JOHNSON THE MOST EVIL IN DISNEY'S LUCASFILM

[@MSpotatoes]

TLJ was an awful movie from start to finish. It has no redeeming qualities. TFA managed to fool me with JJs sneaky mystery boxes, but TLJ was very clear in its contempt.

[@CoercedJab]

It was very pretty. My eyeballs were happy besides flying leia corpse

[@davidanderson4748]

@@MSpotatoes It had beautiful lighting, good music and … uh … hmmm … I guess Adam Driver’s boobies if you’re into that kind of thing. But other than that, you’re right.

[@DjDeadpig]

I still am in awe that Ryan Johnson had a role in Ozymandias (One of the greatest Breaking Bad episodes) and yet somehow screwed up Last Jedi soo badly.

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

Well as I say in the video, he did not write the episodes...

[@DjDeadpig]

@@j.j.plagiarisms7149I know, but talk about a downfall. From breaking bad to arguably the worst Star Wars film.

[@Jared_Wignall]

He didn’t have full on control of Breaking Bad. Vince Gilligan was in charge, so while he did direct the episode, he still had to listen to Gilligan in order for the episode to fit with the end of the series.

[@mtndewisawesome3951]

On god, dawg

[@hermitcard4494]

Because woke agenda started around the years of Last Jedi. All these past talented people bend to Hollywoke and its new dogmas.

[@Siile_]

"Hey, that Star Wars thing is really beloved, I bet millions of people have been waiting decades to see Luke in his prime, let's not do that and make sure it won't happen in the next movie either" - Ruin Johnson, the troll lord

[@saberiandream316]

You want Luke in his prime, you want Luke's successful rebuilding of the Jedi, you want Luke's academy, read the EU. Come on, we have caf.

[@timefilm]

Luke pulled a pretty strong force move

[@Yourfat247]

@@saberiandream316you want all that in a film? You’re gonna get the opposite. Cmon now

[@rhineman]

@@timefilmthis is true, but it doesn’t make up for the fact that they showed a total lack of respect for Luke as a character. Like the video narrator here. says, they made a derivative ESB but much worse, up to and including making Luke into the same kind of wacky hermit as Yoda. But that just doesn’t make any sense. Make it make sense. They did it ‘just because’.

[@timefilm]

@@rhineman maybe if the films were made in the 90s like they should have been, but these actors are elderly now. Disney only wanted glorified cameos. But ultimately I don’t see why rian Johnson gets all the hate. He took that Batton and ran with it. Everything in the last Jedi was set up by jj, and jj had no plan. So I will always ask, what would (we) have done differently. I’ve never ever heard anyone give me an answer.

[@ramonserna8089]

Rian Johnson clearly has no idea how the force works in Lucas vision. The "balance in the force" doesnt mean there is equal number of Siths and Jedis. The Jedis try to keep balance in the force, the Sith try to upset that balance for their own benefit.

[@Slam_duncan03]

Yeah they’re trying to get rid of the sith, not the dark side itself. But Jedi have to have balance in themselves, using dark and light.

[@luckyducky7819]

People will try to gaslight others and convince them that the prequels where hated and ruined the franchise. When they try to do that to me, I ask them "why is there SO MUCH prequel content then?" Republic Commando, The Battlefront and BF's reboot franchise, and several cartoons and movies. If no one liked the prequels, who were they marketing that stuff to?

[@dancorneanu9144]

That's the secret to marketing. People buy what they like. That is why people bought Transformers, He Man ot TMNT toys. Everyone wanted a Darth Maul toy, a Jedi figurine, Clone Troopers and Droids for the armies they were building, Plaques novels, Venerator kits, Anakin vs Obi Wan posters, pod racing videogames. Even Jar Jar sold better than most ST merch. Remember the Pepsy adds? ST merch is on shelfs today. The only content they sell is the battered horse of the PT. They try to milk the thing they first distanced themselves from.

[@GreatFox42]

Because I think even most of the haters would admit there's still stuff to like about the Prequels. The era/setting itself is cool, many of the ship designs are cool, the Sith antagonists are cool, Maul looked _super_ cool and had a double-bladed lightsaber, the lightsaber duels were some of the most intense and choreographed fights in all of cinema... And since the marketing was geared towards older kids and tweens, they ate all that stuff up. There was still stuff for them to cling to. You also couldn't say that the prequels were lazy. Whether you liked the prequels or not, Lucas had a vision and he made that vision a reality. It had _heart._ If it was lazy it would just rehash the OT. Whether you liked that vision or not is a different discussion, but it was anything but lazy or a cash-grab. DSW, on the other hand.....................

[@davidanderson4748]

@@luckyducky7819 it was true. I was there. I spent years trying to convince myself and other they weren’t that bad. But when I finally was honest with myself, I realized they were and they had tarnished something that had been a big part of my life.

[@davidanderson4748]

@@dancorneanu9144 How many prequel toys do people still collect? How many times do you see prequel imagery on cross sell marketing like the recent Oreo packages?

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@davidanderson4748 Plenty, actually. I know plenty of people who still collect prequel merch. I should know, I'm one of them. As for the prequels being used for marketing nowadays, Disney only started doing that to attempt to cash in on prequel nostalgia after they ruined the OT.

[@zzygyy]

Expanded universe is gold.

[@saberiandream316]

We had diversity and representation done properly. Tenel Ka is a disabled Jedi, by choice, and yet to hear the new smug Disney owners talk, you'd think they'd rescued Star Wars from the Aryan junk drawer or something...

[@AndreNitroX]

The EU is the only Star Wars I care about, besides the 6 movies

[@trevturp6891]

@@saberiandream316 Tenel Ka is disabled?

[@trevturp6891]

@@AndreNitroX What about the first 6 Star Wars Movies, TCW, Rebels, The Bad Batch, Tales of The Jedi, Andor, Rogue One, Solo, The Mandalorian, Jedi Fallen Order, and Jedi Survivor?

[@saberiandream316]

@@trevturp6891 Yes, she's missing an arm.

[@xSilentZeroXx]

8:38 What really gives this away is that never once is it ever referred to as the "light side" in George Lucas' movies. Just as there's no "light side of the moon". There's the moon, and the dark side of the moon. There's the Force, and the dark side of the Force. The corruption of goodness. So yeah, restoring balance isn't balancing the two halves, it's eradicating the corruption and restoring purity. To their credit, though, Mace Windu's remarks in Episode III do greatly aid the misconception. "It's possible we misunderstood the prophecy," he says, shortly before the Chosen One and natural causes eliminate every single Force user slowly over the course of 20 years, except for Luke, who uses both "light" and dark powers (he Force Choked a pig-man :/). I can't really blame people, I held that misconception for a long time because of that line, myself.

[@jeremyallen5974]

Light corrupts just as much as the darkness does

[@xSilentZeroXx]

@@jeremyallen5974 lol lmao What are you, 12?

[@jeremyallen5974]

​@@xSilentZeroXxJudging by your response you can't be much older than thirteen

[@Malryth]

Round Headed Johnson was the one who helped create The Fandom Menace. I recall seeing The Last Jedi, opening night in my home town. There was a guy in a Kylo Ren outfit who fit it perfectly. He was a few rows ahead of myself. As the movie went on and came to an end. I didn't feel like I just saw a Star Wars movie. I wondered what was wrong with me. Normally I have stayed to the very end of the credits for EVERY Star Wars movie I ever saw. I saw the guy dressed as Kylo Ren, bolt from the movie theatre just as I was. So I knew I wasn't alone in my feelings. Then Rian and Disney started blaming the fans and kicking the people who support by way of buying things right in the face. Ever since that movie, I have not paid to see anymore of Disney's Star Wars CRAP. I did manage to catch Solo a Star Wars Story on a free to watch web site and understood why it "really" bombed. Not because I didn't see it, it really destroyed what I would have considered a decent Han Solo origin story polluting it with social politics and annoying characters. I'm surprised Disney can get any movies financially backed these days. They keep loosing money because they keep pushing "The Message". I guess they won't learn until they loose everything.

[@redjirachi1]

The prequel haters were the original Fandom Menace. What else do you call the people that bullied actors because they hated their characters?

[@pistolbobcat420]

@@redjirachi1that’s an overblown myth, jake lloyd was barely aware of reception to phantom menace and it was media outlets that slagged Ahmed Best, not individual fans

[@Malryth]

@@redjirachi1 The huge difference was The Internet was in it's infancy. Social Media was just starting to grow and people just wanted to share what they were passionate about. Now SM is used to push social political messages, catfish people and inside anger. I fully admit, I wasn't as fond of the Prequels mainly because they were going up against The Lord of the Rings movies which came out one year after another. All the while it looked like George was making up as he went. After I got them on DVD and re-watched them a few times I was softer on them (even the 2nd movie). Compared to the hammer it over your head "white man bad" shit Disney is doing now. George Lucas was a misunderstood Saint.

[@sentryogmixmaster]

still can't spell 'Lose' correctly? ok champ.....

[@merasmusentertainment]

Saying that the prequels ruined and / or destroyed Star Wars is to say that you never liked Star Wars to begin with.

[@amelciauwu155]

If that's the case then why would pepole react to this situation like they did?

[@Yourfat247]

@@amelciauwu155the fans literally made both young anakin’s and jar jar’s actors lives hell…

[@HelghastStalker]

​@@Yourfat247 The MEDIA did. The fans didn't.

[@amelciauwu155]

@@Yourfat247 And yet here we are years later it's 2015 And fans still wait for good Star Wars content.

[@davidanderson4748]

@@merasmusentertainment WRONG. There is no measure of what someone likes or dislikes that makes them not a fan. The OT was two brilliant films and one competent film. That’s enough to say you’re a fan. The prequels … I still remember trying to cope with the disappointment of Episode I, trying to justify that they’d get to the good stuff in the next film. But then the next one came out and I remember cringing, embarrassed that I brought my wife to this “romantic” film with its horrible dialog and off putting leads. Finally EIII came out and everyone said it was the best, and it was, but now I had two wonderful sons who were the perfect age for Star Wars, only for this one to be the first rated PG-13, due to its horrific scenes of violence and implied child murder. Oh it still retained the terrible dialog, and unlikable characters. At least it ended with the stupidest reveal of Darth Vader in the suit imaginable … the NOOOO became a meme before memes were even a thing. Sorry, you can love them all you want, but don’t you dare tell other people they are not true fans for not liking them.

[@hermitcard4494]

KKK, JarJar Abrahams and Ruin Johnson the 1st triumvirate of evil. If good talented sane people ever owns Star Wars, they would make PERFECT villains. I could easily write them as propagandists deforming the legacy of the old heroes to elevate their chosen. Let's imagine Rey as an empress and having these 3 as propaganda who spread "Disney" canon as some form of "anti-christianity" towards the Jedi. And this is what the people of that time know about them. But then a new hero uncovers the truth and real story, so the Rey empire establishment declares this hero as their prophesied evil "anti Rey" cult.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

B*tch is half sith

[@AndreNitroX]

If they do make a spaceballs 2 those 3 needs to be the main villains

[@truesoulghost2777]

Kathleen Kunt Kennedy?

[@nicholascauton9648]

The Unholy Trinity.

[@leonnunhofer3453]

Headland also is evil 😡

[@theblissfulinterzone7510]

Never understand the hate for the prequels. George wrote them, they were fun, they told a cohesive story, had great casting choices, the best fights, they are classic Star Wars.

[@AndreNitroX]

Yes, as important as the movies are in the grand scheme of things it’s the story that mattered so much came from the prequel era that was truly great

[@witoldwitoszekrecords3253]

To be honest, the prequel trilogy are just badly made and poorly written movies. The sequel trilogy is more than that, it is an abomination. But this doesn't make the prequel trilogy any better.

[@lizzkaayako2270]

I held out high hopes for Star Wars after The Force Awakens. I remember walking out of The Last Jedi with my father, both of us shaking our heads, thinking through all the ways the film failed. Rian Johnson allowed his filmmaking ego to become bigger than the story he was tasked to tell. At its most fundamental level, The Last Jedi didn't make textual sense. It was completely unfamiliar to the ethos of what Star Wars had been. I feel awful for Mark Hammill, because Luke Skywalker was someone he knew more intimately than any of us, and he was open and honest about his disagreements with Rian Johnson over what Johnson planned to do with Luke's story. What a truly lost potential for what should have been a great ending for a truly great story.

[@crawdaddyy]

Post-2012 Lucas Films approach to every beloved male character: [insert male character] is down on their luck. They’ve lost hope in life and need the assistance of [insert female character] to kick them into gear.”

[@philipdowns3506]

Best Star Wars story outside of Lucas Arts? The SWTOR cinematics!!! The Twins, The Republic fight-back, the Daughter... amazing.

[@saberiandream316]

I personally think Jedi Apprentice and Young Jedi Knights are so unbelievably underrated. It is a crying shame that Lucasfilm doesn't reprint them.

[@Siile_]

Those cinematics are absolutely incredible. I "wasted" hundreds upon hundreds of hours playing SWTOR back in the day and don't regret any of it looking back. It's indescribable how hyped for the game we were when the Deceived cinematic came out. Disney Lucasfilm would have made a fortune if they had taken inspiration from this stuff for the new movies and shows

[@saberiandream316]

@@Siile_ I don't like cherry-picking at the EU's corpse. I don't want to encourage Lucasfilm to do that, or next thing you know, Filoni's gonna be giving you a dumbed down, possibly even race-swapped version of Mara Jade in the Disney+ shows. Eurgh.

[@Siile_]

@@saberiandream316 I'm not saying they should do that now. It's way too late, I don't want them to touch any of that. But in a better world where the new Lucasfilm would have been full of competent people who truly love Star Wars, the SWTOR cinematic would have been an amazing influence as far as how to approach the new content. The people behind those are geniuses

[@thunderleg6605]

top shelf cinematics

[@DoctorTalbain]

As an Indiana Jones fan, I loved your analysis of Belloq from Raiders of the Lost Ark! Could you do an "Analyzing Evil" episode on James Mangold, the director who butchered Indiana Jones? I made a five hour deep dive on that movie, check it out if you can for reference!

[@Dousch]

Honestly, this is closer to the original Analyzing Evil than the current iteration where you (annoyingly) see and constantly cut to the narrator. I much prefer this. Thank you for keeping it going, and for keeping it grounded in reality by focusing on all the living breathing evil narcissists on this Earth, rather than just focusing on fiction. This a strong concept taken to the next level.

[@purplemicrodot58]

I have fantasies about meeting Rian Johnson on an airplane or some other scenario he cannot escape.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Huh, I have the same fantasies, only with Kathleen Kennedy.

[@shanester1832]

Yeah. I genuinely do too. Curious how he doesn't do fan meetups.

[@purplemicrodot58]

@@williampotter3369 After he heard all I had to say he wouldn't be laughing.

[@agent-yo1ez]

​@@shanester1832 He actually avoids them lol?

[@shanester1832]

@agent-yo1ez He is wise to do so. Somebody would absolutely do something.

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

I was in college when the prequels came out and the hate for them didn't seem to exist back then. It was hated on by losers that weren't even fans but simply hate what they don't make.

[@Captain-Thievius]

Its the reason why I always refer to RLM as "Retards, Losers, and Morons". Never forget and never forgive the fact RLM created the narrative of "Marcia Lucas saved Starwars". A narrative proven false by Marcia Lucas herself.

[@alexfraser8352]

👏 👏 👏 👏 PREACH

[@abelgonzalez158]

Not even close to accurate, plenty of people were complaining about the poor acting and stupid or unnecessary characters and lacking dialog. Generalizing nuanced critique is exactly what the acolyte showrunners are doing...

[@Khultan]

How old were you because I remember the criticism and the World Wide Web aka the Internet was very early yet. I myself realized after watching TPM several times that there was something different about it that didn't quite generate that fevered feeling of excitement and thrills as Star Wars 1977 did.

[@skachor]

The hate got Jar Jar binks completely nixed and practically killed Hayden Christiansens career before it took off.

[@MarthaMyDear6]

Ruin Johnson

[@timothywilliams3205]

Ruin Johnson and jar jar Abram’s.

[@treystephens6166]

@@timothywilliams3205Round Worm 🪱 Johnson

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

ROUNDHEAD RUIN IDIOT JOHNSON.

[@SammEater]

A movie designed to piss off people out of spite. This and Ghostbusters 2016 truly marked the point of no return for Hollywood. It clearly showed they have no desires to actually entertain people anymore.

[@demspookz8732]

People often forget that Star Wars is a MULTI MEDIA franchise. The games, novels, comics and toys we got during the prequel era were fantastic. Only good things we’ve gotten from Disney Star Wars in the past 10+ years have been Rogue One, Mando seasons 1 and 2, Andor, and the Jedi games. Not a lot for such a large amount of time

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@demspookz8732 Fake fan spotted.

[@demspookz8732]

@@BrandontheAwesome care to elaborate?

[@BenRai2k]

@@BrandontheAwesome I've been a fan of the OT before the prequels existed and agree with him totally.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@demspookz8732 Nope. You know what you did.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@BenRai2k So you are also a fake fan. Sorry.

[@cellulanus]

That sums up what I think about the prequels. No masterpieces. But a large amount of the best secondary Star Wars works were made around that time and were directly based on them. Hindsight we really can say they expanded the Star Wars universe and were overall a net positive. I'm actually glad that Disney stuck the "Legends" tag on all older works, since it means I can safely ignore anything that doesn't have that mark.

[@autobotstarscream765]

The Disney Golden Seal of Quality: "REJECTED BY MOUSE". 😹

[@jaegerbomb269]

Thank you for putting Ruin Johnson's feet to the fire! Last Jedi is an abomination. To the apologists; where's Ruin Johnson's trilogy? 😂Silviers lining: at least the Sequels showed the Prequels actually didn't suck. It's something. 🤷‍♂

[@potatoabe-letsplays5881]

Absolutely. Rian Johnson knew the questions set up by previous movie. The mystery of Rey’s Parents, Snoke, what Luke Skywalker was doing, and the origin of the First Order. He purposely chose to give unsatisfactory answers to these questions.

[@rylanasher4756]

Underrated comment.

[@davemac9563]

They still kinda sucked, but they could have been a lot worse

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. J.J.PLAGIARISMS SKIP RIAN JOHNSON

[@saberiandream316]

I think it's going to take Kathleen Kennedy leaving of her own free will before they finally admit it's never going to happen.

[@Dr._GroovyDude]

Based intro to this. People who say "Star Wars died after 2005" are really dumb. Say what you will about Filoni now, but Clone Wars was HUGE when it came out, made a ton of new fans, and it really only ended because of Disney buying the series rather than being cancelled. People seem to forget how big of a game Force Unleashed was as well. Hell, the hype built off the back of all the 00s Star Wars content is why Force Awakens was one of the hugest opening weekends in history.

[@CoercedJab]

I’ve never met anyone who said that except KZbinrs with content quotas… Not as based as you think. Real base would be recognizing the stage the internet was at at that time and the fact people had their own opinions. Not a Plinkett Fandom.

[@CoercedJab]

Clone wars was not huge all caps bruh. Weren’t you there for baby Jabba? Or were you still drinking mothers milk Perhaps you meant the HUGE Collab with samurai Jack creator?

[@jiggycalzone8585]

Sam Witwer is the only reason anyone thinks Filoni is good

[@davidanderson4748]

@@Dr._GroovyDude It died long before 2005 …

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@davidanderson4748 It died in 2008.

[@ruikirisame1744]

the people that hate the prequel movies reek of insecurity. it's fine to not like some aspects but to bend over backwards and go "OW THE CRINGE! THE CRINGE!" is more childish than the prequels were. It's like anime fans that say "mecha's dead" because the 70s and 80s are behind us

[@PseudoNym13]

the PT era was PEAK. nothing under disney wars comes close. and when they do they mog themselves with terrible and poorly implemented copies of what was already done better in the EU. And I say this as an adamant EU hater(for the most part, some of the games and books are enjoyable)

[@CoercedJab]

You can’t judge what peak was if you saying mog bruh

[@flowrebaz6189]

Originally I found the prequels boring but as I grew up I realized how good they were. I also read most of the expanded universe. When Kathleen and JJ talked Bob into relegating the expanded universe to legends so they could pick and choose the plots they wanted and not be constrained, that was when things fell apart. For the most part Disney hasn’t had a hand in the Movies, Kathleen has been doing a fine job Messing it up on her own, that said, Disney renewing her contract continually is either them not caring or them having no choice due to a clause they never should have allowed.

[@Jared_Wignall]

JJ Abrams making The Force Awakens the way that he did paved the way for The Last Jedi. Obviously Rian Johnson had his own way with The Last Jedi, but had the previous installment been different, then perhaps the way Luke, the force and other things that were handled in The Last Jedi could have been a lot better, especially if they didn’t let Rian do whatever he wanted. But Rian Johnson did things his way and well we now have The Last Jedi. I still remember a video around the time Disney bought Lucasfilm where he was asked if he did a Star Wars film and what he’d like to do with it and his response was basically he wouldn’t want everybody loving it. He’d want half the people who saw it to love it and the other half to hate it. Nothing in between where you liked some stuff, but disliked other stuff. Had to be you either love it or hate it. With that in mind, makes even more sense why The Last Jedi was the way that it was. Thank god he’s never getting his trilogy made because with the attitude he had making TLJ, I’m sure he’d continue making that trilogy the way he’s already contributed to “Star Wars”. Plus whenever he’s said Empire Strikes Back was divisive with fans, it’s obvious he’s purposely misleading people to think that because fans of the time really enjoyed or loved Empire when it came out, the mixed reception was with critics not fans and he has to know that. And I agree that under George Lucas, the books and comics of the expanded universe was a lot better. Yeah some things would overlap with other things the more time goes where so many stories are told outside of the George Lucas films, but George Lucas would be involved and approve of what did and didn’t go into the books and comics regarding storylines and characters. This is a great video man and a great series. Keep up the great work and take care!

[@PseudoNym13]

I think the ST could have been salvaged somewhat if we at least got the original ep9 duel of the fates. while it wasn't perfect it didn't backpedal on the decisions made in TLJ which is way more admirable than directors going NO U NO U back and forth and shitting up the trilogy. Could it make it as good as the PT or even the OT? no, but I don't think we would hate them all nearly as much. instead we got a terrible ROTJ ripoff with 1000x less soul

[@matthewgaudet4064]

KK said they had no baseline or story material. In other words, she hired directors and allowed them to bring their vision to the screen. They had a blank slate, except for a mandate to make films of a flavor like the originals and not the prequel.

[@blackAngelProductions]

Anyone who thinks the prequels are bad and ruined Star wars or that George Lucas killed Star wars need to shut up because you were probably never a Star wars fan anyway. You are the reason Lucas felt alienated

[@4dmind]

I love the prequels too, you're not alone. And I love this Analyzing Evil series. This whole thing is a metaphysical battle, and the conspiracy is both conscious and unconscious, as it is with all forms of evil.

[@B-the-the-fpv-guy]

You are doing God’s work. God bless you and keep analyzing the evil of Disney

[@Duante2]

I'm starting to love the prequels again. At first, i hated the prequels, but after watching them again, i love them.

[@Randomthew]

Its a simple pros and cons situation. The prequels aren't perfect but there are so many pros that are so iconic about each of the prequels that really fits and expands the star wars univuniverse. The disney sequels have so few pros and the cons are so massively horrible that they are really hard to enjoy.

[@Duante2]

@@Randomthew I agree

[@Siile_]

I think what DIsney has been doing has helped a lot of people realize that for all their flaws, at least the prequels are Star Wars movies. They feel like Star Wars, they work within the established rules of the universe, and they add so much to the lore.

[@Randomthew]

@@Siile_ exactly, exactly.

[@CoercedJab]

@@Randomthewnah it’s more like people who had the original OT hype but then got JAR JAR had a slap on the face and then like a decade of waiting for revenge of the sith payoff

[@ZontarDow]

To put the success if Star Wars before Disney into perspective, Clone Wars was made ar a 10 million dollar annual loss because the merchandise from Clone Wars tie ins where bringing in more then that. And Clone Wars with its budget that was put toward RnD did more to further animation technology then Pixar accomolishes with literally ten times that RnD budget even when they where making good movies.

[@saberiandream316]

TCW was also losing viewers as time went on. I know the Filoni groupies hate to hear that, but it's true.

[@CoercedJab]

@@saberiandream316kinda tribal of your own to invoke some group like that. I recall I stopped watching because I heard it was gonna get cancelled

[@ZontarDow]

@saberiandream316 that's typical of all shows

[@generalesdeath5836]

I loved reading Legacy, Empire, Clone Wars and KOTOR from Dark Horse comics while having a beer with my old man in the late 2000s. I loved everything Star Wars up until TLJ.

[@Rez_Of_Souls]

If it wasn't for the Phantom Menace I wouldn't even know what Star Wars was.

[@ChristopherPearson-u1u]

Does anyone else get irritated they never include “Dark Forces” among great Star Wars video games?

[@michaelshields6326]

Dark forces 2 is probably my favorite piece of star wars media.

[@alexmartin3143]

No

[@seeinred]

It's amazing how current Disney Star Wars shows somehow have EVEN WORSE writers than Ruin Johnson. Just let that sink in.

[@bobjordan69]

I dont get why people say The Last Jedi is so ground breaking in Star Wars storytelling. Its mostly just a tired re-mix of precious Star Wars plot points. As for the story-still nothing that groundbreaking in terms of what has come before

[@TONYGILLEY]

As for Rian Johnson, he's definitely a hack who destroyed Star Wars (at Kathleen Kennedy's request), but I have give the Round-Headed Simpleton credit. His subverting of expectations played a part in potentially damaging JJ's career, cementing his legacy of Hackery.

[@antonydrossos5719]

Johnson makes me think of that one odd kid from school you invite over to your house after school to show him your cool action figures. He breaks your favourite toys, makes a total mess, then says, “OOPS! I gotta head home for dinner, ir my mom’ll get mad!”

[@marcosmercedesn]

The prequels are great.

[@kurtiswacko]

You need to make these way way longer. I want more

[@iwannaplayssbb6665]

Jar Jar Abrams KILLED Star Wars and Damaged Star Trek, that takes skill...or malice

[@kitalalaris]

Both

[@tomnorton4277]

Honestly, I think Jar Jar Abrams is just retarded and nothing more. Ruin Johnsuck on the other hand is both retarded AND malicious.

[@stonemanofgardnerville1162]

Fuck yeah homie...I loved the prequels and the OG battlefront games from republic commandos and star wars empire at war...also the EU was so in depth it was mind boggling and dark it made star wars open up after the prequels and the old republic.......fuck Disney

[@saberiandream316]

And they don't like when you bring up the EU, it's why they go overboard in using George Lucas to discredit it, because they feel threatened by it, when we have every valid right to compare what we lost to what we have now. Why else do people keep saying Disney Star Wars should do something in the Old Republic era? Unfortunately, that's gone. We are never going to get a Darth Zannah novel now thanks to Disney, and I'll never forgive them for that.

[@darthrain5895]

I'm so glad you addressed the theme of failure and how Rian Johnson was not being original by using it. Sequel trilogy fans don't get it. It was already done in the Empire Strikes Back, and executed much better in a far more superior movie.

[@RussingtonS4678]

I console myself with kotor & kotor2 which has diversity, storyline, locations and Sith. Good and Evil are vague concepts and the Cantina has hot dancers.

[@RH777]

found out about this channel from your analyising evil videos about JJ arbams and kathleen kennedy and then i decided to binge watch your videos i really want to read some more EU material because of this channel

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Step into my office. I know how to help you get started.

[@MadHamProductions]

Even when i was a kid i still enjoyed the phantom menace, i never even skipped a scene. I love the prequals.

[@darthprime1990]

Another video exposing the prequel and EU haters as well as Ruin Johnson. Your defense on the former two never disappoint.

[@saberiandream316]

EU for life!

[@darthprime1990]

@@saberiandream316 Damn straight!

[@saberiandream316]

@@darthprime1990 I hope J.J. gets to the saltierthankrayt vid soon!

[@darthprime1990]

@@saberiandream316 Somehow I have a feeling that's going to happen again.

[@saberiandream316]

@@darthprime1990 Yup, they're going to see this video and get triggered. They don't stand for truth, and they are as reactionary as they say they hate in others.

[@studio96films65]

“How does it feel to see your favorite franchises go up in flames?”

[@havtheroc]

It's very telling when the near-universally despised Electronic Arts is looked to as the last bastion at the gate of the Expanded Universe. They put some lip service outfits that were homages to Disney's wreck of a 'canon' universe, and chose to ignore anything 'creatively' or narratively as it relates to the overarching EU lore that they did that contracted said lore. Lightsaber crystal color being a preference of the user and not some quasi-spiritualistic nonsense that undermined the original. And Johnson is just another lazily-hammered nail in the coffin.

[@GreatFox42]

Never heard of you until this slid into my rec's. I relate strongly to that impassioned rant at the start. I, too, am a prequel fan and big EU fan. Revenge of the Sith is my favorite movie of the six and I mean unironically. I enjoy that movie so much. As for the EU, I literally spent half of my teenage years practically studying it. I hated school and had a crappy home life, so the EU was a major escape for me. I was always a history nerd, enjoying that as my favorite subject in school, and studying the EU was like studying a history that wasn't ours. It was fun. If I had all my schoolwork done in study hall, I'd either have my nose in a Star Wars novel or comic, or I'd be in the computer lab looking random stuff on Wookiepedia. I had many of the games (Rogue Squadron is an amazing quadrilogy), I watched the movies frequently, both from the perspective of the movies by themselves, and as an EU nerd knowing all the things happening off-camera. Star Wars was a _big_ deal for me. It also influenced the way I look at media a lot, and the importance of escapism. Even if Star Wars had the occasional, subtle political take, the key takeaway that it _was_ subtle and easy to ignore or not even notice. Which is how it should be. Preachy media sucks and it doesn't matter who's receiving it. For those who agree with it, it will have no effect. For those who don't, well they just lost out on a story. Such things should almost always be in the background. Especially since the entire point of Star Wars' creation was so that kids could grow up with fairy tales again. Those movies are timeless because any subtle political messaging _is_ easily missed and that's the point. They will and have outlived the politics contemporary to the era of their making. Something Disney Star Wars will never understand. And the EU... The EU doesn't get enough credit, and it didn't back in the day either. I consider the entirety of the EU a work of art unto itself. Nothing like that ever really existed before. An immense tapestry that any author, artist, game designer, etc. could add to, and have it _mean_ something. Have it _stick._ It gave purpose and meaning to even the less quality additions. With a handful of exceptions, if you had a Star Wars something in your hand, it was probably canon in some way. Engaging with the story then gave you a clearer look into this universe that isn't ours, yet has almost as much detail. It was so _unique_ that eventually a few other brands tried it out. I seem to recall the Star Trek novels started trying to form a similar cohesive EU of their own. And that's _great._ That's _awesome._ The EU was cool enough to deserve to have attempts to follow it. It was beautiful. I studied the EU like a subject of its own. I just kept wanting to learn more, because it was fun. And it was something to focus on, put my energy towards something I cared about. Even the bad parts I was happy to learn about. And to be honest... I even had intentions of adding to it myself one day. I had no delusions that I'd be creating anything like the Thrawn trilogy, but I'd be honored to add to the EU even in a small way. Maybe give some other teen an escape. That dream is dead now. And so is the wonder that was the EU. When I heard that was happening a lot of my interest in Star Wars died with it. I tried to then just hang on to the movies but as the brand sunk further and further, I found it more and more difficult to enjoy the movies. I only kept thinking about what was lost, both George's magic touch and the EU. It's really depressing what Star Wars has become. It's now antithetical in every possible way to what the original six films stood for. I hate you so much, Disney. There aren't enough words in any language on Earth past or present to express the _depth_ of my hatred for this corporation. You destroyed a beautiful piece of art. You destroyed my dream, as well as any hope of a future kid seeking an escape to find it in the Star Wars saga. _Please_ go bankrupt.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

Check out the West End Games' Star Wars TTRPG. It was the foundation for pretty much everything following the original trilogy, starting with Timothy Zhan's Heir to the Empire trilogy.

[@andrewdau1299]

Thank you for mentioning KOTOR 2 being a better deconstruction of Star Wars than the Last Jedi. I swear people who go on about how great of a deconstruction the Last Jedi is have never heard of that game.

[@saberiandream316]

Before Rian Johnson, there was Dave Filoni!

[@Dr._GroovyDude]

Dave didn't become dogshit till at minimum 2018 tho. With the exception of being a glorified cinematographer on Breaking Bad, Rian has always sucked.

[@saberiandream316]

@@Dr._GroovyDude He's always taken from the EU and dumbed it down while publicly distancing himself from it. He was never as great as legions of delusional fanboys make him sound.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

According to Dave George told him the EU wasn't canon when they were making Clone Wars and to ignore it. That is how you get things like Morriban instead of Korriban, and Boba Fett and Jango not being Mandalorian.

[@saberiandream316]

@@matthewgaudet4064 Filoni's a damn liar. He's been caught lying before, claiming he doesn't want to change source material, and encouraging people to change source material behind the scenes.

[@harloxzz1990]

The guy who destroyed Luke Skywalker character and shills still try to defend that the Last Jedi fits with Luke Skywalker arc from the OT

[@AgentsofPRIDE]

requests: analyzing evil: marcus turner/cosmonaut variety hour turf nation Doug walker/nostalgia critic Chris stuckmann

[@USSFFRU]

Kathleen Kennedy, Rian Johnson, and J.J Abrams, The Axis Powers of Star Wars

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Throw Dave Filoni in there.

[@guidoivanmendez2354]

Seeing the mug @J.J. Plagiarisms, i`m going to dare to suggest you another Analyzing Evil: Pablo Hidalgo, or why not, the entire Story Group and their "care for continuity." Great video, by the way.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Bro couldn't agree more with you about the prequels- people (like RLM- Trekkies 🤢🤮) took hating on them waaaaayyy too far, yet didn't bring the same energy to the Diznee trilogy

[@hangeishot7919]

Yeah, the prequels were fine.

[@StickySyrupEverywhere]

I was in the theater in 1977 with my dad to see the original Star Wars. Not Episode IV. I LOVE the Prequels! All three. Those movies are unique and unto themselves, as set apart from standard Hollywood fare as the first three were in 77. Don't care what anybody else thinks. Ruin is a sniveling little weasel of a douchebagette! That's why he fit right in as KK transitioned Lucasfilm into Pukeusfilm! He even laughs like a villain! "Eee hee hee hee hee hee!" Be a shame if society squanders the opportunity presented by so many self-identifying psychotic sociopaths!

[@relaxingnature2617]

Everything Disney puts out •improves• George’s work

[@AndruComedy]

When somebody accidentally shits in the bed, we say they "Rian Johnsonned It."

[@user-ik4kh9lt6d]

I love Phantom Menace. Always have. Always will.

[@burnttoast26]

The Last Jedi was a smoothbrain attempt to imitate KotOR 2 while missing KotOR 2's points and narrative Edit: you even basically said that lol

[@Deuteromis]

Are you ever gonna do a in depth series talking about The Plinkett Reviews?

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

Analyzing Evil: Mike Stoklasa From RedLetterMedia

[@Deuteromis]

@@j.j.plagiarisms7149 OK I gotta check that out. Though I was hoping you go over each review individually since they are the foundation for people to crap on The Prequels. I mean even now that's what I keep hearing, "Go watch the Plinkett Reviews" I have yet to come across someone do a deep dive for each one. There was that one channel Anomoly that said he was but never did it.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

@@Deuteromis I started a series back I 2019 tackling Plinkett but I have yet to continue it due to things that went on and all my scripts ad nearly finished videos being hundreds of miles away on a different PC hard drive.

[@Deuteromis]

@@ironinquisitor3656 Oh, well hope yah get it made someday. There really just aren't enough videos pointing out the major flaws in those reviews.

[@davidanderson4748]

@@Deuteromis People were crapping on the prequels long before the Plinkett reviews. Those reviews just articulated in an entertaining way why people crapped on them. Hell, it was on ongoing joke for years when AICN gave Episode I a positive review. All that was long before Plinkett.

[@Adarkane325xi]

I have to second your suggestion to read the Expanded Universe - the *actual* Star Wars canon. Heir to the Empire shows a war-torn galaxy reeling from the loss of the Emperor, as Imperial Warlords fight each other and the New Republic. Enjoying a brief respite of peace, Luke, with still no other Jedi compatriots, declares himself a Master, and finally begins to make moves toward restarting The Order. Timothy Zahn is a master storyteller, snd he doesn’t disappoint.

[@CMVBrielman]

1:32 Don’t forget the KOTOR comic. Zayne Carrick is a great take on a Jedi apprentice.

[@IGotThisGeorgeLopez1]

Rian Johnson getting creative freedom caused some canon issues

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

The only Prequel I didn't care for was Phantom Menace. Just a little too campy for me. Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were much better. The EU is the heart and soul of my love for Star Wars though. Loved it.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

TPM has the best lightsaber duel though, can't argue with that!

[@manekero4098]

Im interested in reading legends and the prequel era is iteresting for me but theres a lot of books. Where should i start?

[@CountofBeretania]

I’d like to see that worm Michael Giordano a subject of “Evil Analysed”.

[@PineappleDealer37]

"Star wars had better quality control when lucas was in charge" The three writers reviving palptaine just to kill him immidentally after:

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIjUknmFa76Xebs You should see my Dark Empire Review. MUCH better than the Rise of Skywalker.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Dark Empire was Lucas's idea. The original pitch was that it was someone posing as Vader.

[@sethwarwick1075]

The prequels are so much better than disney star wars

[@kitalalaris]

I think he did stop to think how it would affect the fans, I think Rian Johnson made a cold, calculated move specifically designed to torpedo the franchise and every single fan who still held hope for it after The Farce Awakens. Some things to note: The man is of the same vein as Alex Kurtzman, he hates anything that isn't nihilistic slop. He also hates true morality. This is a man who thinks without a shred of irony that good is actually evil and evil is actually just morally ambiguous. This was done on purpose.

[@FaizalHamzah-p1v]

The most hated director in Hollywood. Seriously. Not kidding. 😂. Not because of some sex scandal but because of The Last Jedi.

[@kingDowahs]

Here’s the thing about the Ozymandias thing: 1) The show had been building up to it for nearly 5 seasons and so it was extremely hard to get wrong 2)Vince had full writing authority and considering people praise Ozymandias mainly for its writing, I think that’s important to remember While obviously the directing in Ozymandias is phenomenal, as is his directing in Fly, you have to keep in mind that he’s actually a pretty good director in some aspects, the problem is that he’s a bad writer

[@Nartanek]

Honestly the prequel is the best, the original trilogy is fine and all but i wouldn't have stuck to star wars without the universe building of the prequel. There was very little of that in the original trilogy and it was just a story. The prequel gave us a universe.

[@Siile_]

A lot of people don't realize that. The prequels developed the Jedi and Sith massively. Gave us Coruscant, Naboo, a gorgeous planet, way more of Tatooine, etc... Showed us how the politics work within the Star Wars universe. Palpatine, one of the best characters, became so much more fleshed out, especially with all the books and Clone Wars in parallel of the movies themselves

[@crazyralph6386]

Sorry, but ESB is on a completely different level than any SW film before, and after. As a stand-alone, it’s one of the best movies made in the 80’s. Cinematic perfection.

[@Nartanek]

@@crazyralph6386 Nah, everyone was just shocked to learn Vader was Luke's father and their bias shows. Again i have nothing against the original trilogy it's an absolutely fine piece of cinema but i would have watched them once or twice and that's it. The prequel era is what made star wars special.

[@mikem.s.1183]

As a fan of Zahn's and Vonda McYntire's books, I fully agree with how you see the resurgence of SW as rooted in the early 90s, not the prequels themselves. Subbed.

[@mikegrady5669]

Been waiting on this. Hey KK! How's that Ruin Johnson trilogy coming along? 😁

[@Khultan]

Iran Johnson was born in 1973.

[@therealjib]

Rian is one of the worst, right behind Kathleen Kennedy.

[@VgnRaj]

Thank you again. As long as there are masses that care, no corporation can actually kill Star Wars. I look forward to your perspective on Leslye Headland.

[@Jeff-cn9up]

Everything Rian Johnson made is garbled trash. How do people not see this?

[@AlexRazorGame]

As a fan of OT and someone who just recently read the Trawn Trilogy - I agree with you ob the Prequels! I like OT much more, but I NEVER hated the PT even though I'm one of those who "only watched the movies". OK, I also played gamws. AotC is my least favourite (too much CGI warfare), FM is my favourite out of 3 - it has that OT feel of adventure, + the best fight scene.

[@benclark4823]

Next video should be analyzing evil JJ Abrams addition 🤓😈

[@j.j.plagiarisms7149]

@@benclark4823 I actually already have a video on JJ Abrams. It’s the one I made before Rian

[@suezcontours6653]

​@j.j.plagiarisms7149 Rian Johnson is a genius "let go for the past kill it if you have to". That was great advice, nerds need to grow up and let go of these fantasies, it's cute when you're little but when you're 50 years old Star Wars fan then you have a problem. If you gonna analyze evil: analyze USA Arrested Development and infantalization of men. Your population is in decline because of the epidemic of man babies

[@RoachDoggJr2112]

Remember, the BEST thing this guy ever made were the two worst episodes of Breaking Bad. And I’m sure he was kept well in check by actual sensible filmmakers. Also dawg, just some advice. Get rid of the funko pop shit, especially when representing yourself. Makes you seem a bit… lame in the brain.

[@swagmaster1437]

I asked my SW hater friend why the prequels were bad and hes like "jar jar" i can't 🤣🤣😅

[@saberiandream316]

Jar Jar wasn't that bad.

[@jimjam51075]

There are definitely only six films. I was 4 when I saw Star Wars in 1977. My favorite way to make fun of OT purists is to say "Star Wars ended for me during the point in Empire Strikes Back when Vader looks at the screen at the Hoth shield generator and says 'That's it!'" Lucas had some ups and downs, but I'm not about to judge who is and isn't a fan different parts of his work. Disney just bought the name, big car companies and big shoe makers buy name brands all the time and make trash under the old labels.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

It's kind of amazing how OT purists were on Disney's side and wanted Lucas gone, but weren't happy with how Luke was ruined in Last Jedi. They complained about the Force Awakens being a remake when they wanted the flavor of the OT to be continued, and not the style of the prequel. Even if Disney SW ended up being off brand or at best New Coke.

[@davidanderson4748]

@@matthewgaudet4064 Two things can be disappointing and bad.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@davidanderson4748 Just like OT fanatics.

[@Redpoppy80]

To the philosophy of the Force that was touched upon. The IDEAL is to have only the Light but in practice is completely impossible as the dark side of the force is not only death itself which is the natural conclusion of life but also the negative emotions of all living beings. The whole self-appointed purpose of the Jedi is to find a balance of these things which is where people get led astray. Balance is not Jedi accepting that bad things exist but rather obtaining personal enlightenment and finding ways to live a more just, more giving, more loving, life and teaching others how to live that life. The Jedi are meant to defend, never attack but that does not mean you can't make an active defense though it is discouraged. One of the things I like about Luke the most is his natural connection with the dark side, which is not only more powerful than Anakin's (who used the dark side because it is the easy path to power) but is where he gets most of his force power from, but he learns the horrors of the dark side and while it will always be with him, his faith in those he loves keeps him firmly in the light. For Luke, it is because he knows the pain of the dark side that he fights so hard to promote the light and good in others, because he knows better than anyone else how evil he could be.