And the Undisputed 4x4 CHAMP Is... We Settle the Argument Once and For All!

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TFLoffroad

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@mattperkins2073
@mattperkins2073 3 жыл бұрын
This was probably your best video. Everybody was pretty funny.
@harleyward2098
@harleyward2098 3 жыл бұрын
21:14 when be was talking about the .6 intervals was halarious
@jmoneyyonkers2209
@jmoneyyonkers2209 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah dude I thought it was halarious too
@TimKirkpatrick79
@TimKirkpatrick79 2 жыл бұрын
“In this case longer is not better Andre.” - Roman 😂
@JohnsonMedia
@JohnsonMedia 3 жыл бұрын
We are begging you...please use the Raptor and the TRX for their purpose and give us a desert run showdown! Hit the sand and race them, jump them, something lol.
@teop7887
@teop7887 3 жыл бұрын
They'll never do it, too afraid of breaking something. 🤣😂
@tylerking27
@tylerking27 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Some mud would be nice too!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's all about the right tool for the job, and those trucks are not made for this type of trail. Bring them out to the open trails in the desert out there, then really let them do their thing.
@woxie4990
@woxie4990 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo!!!
@speterbilt
@speterbilt 3 жыл бұрын
They had a video already and they pick the Ford, because it's lighter and carves better when going fast
@MrJamesLuz
@MrJamesLuz 3 жыл бұрын
Raptor in 4 low: single digit miles per gallon TRX in 4 low: single digit gallons per mile
@erich1880
@erich1880 3 жыл бұрын
Still a big diff if we're talking 1 MPG and 9Mpg lol
@michaelmayo2489
@michaelmayo2489 3 жыл бұрын
@@erich1880 you missed what he said he said gallons per mile like GPM not MPG
@stjohn2201
@stjohn2201 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@aaronk9932
@aaronk9932 3 жыл бұрын
Roman: awe man we gotta be careful with these expensive trucks Tommy: LeeeeeRoyyyyyyyy Jenkinsss!
@rkalla
@rkalla 3 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@zachc1297
@zachc1297 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan. Tommy. Andre. In that order on who I know is gonna make a good off road video.
@TheAeswein
@TheAeswein 3 жыл бұрын
Haha!!! This is hilarious. lol
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 3 жыл бұрын
At least I got some chicken. ;)
@alanj7306
@alanj7306 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a dumb comment! You don’t even make any sense. This comparison was just stupid..
@MADMAX7330
@MADMAX7330 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact regarding the Gladiators hill crawl control speed intervals of 0.6mph: It translates to 1kmph increments in Metric, the standard of engineers 😅
@timber543
@timber543 3 жыл бұрын
Metric is the standard for the whole world. Except for the USA and Nigeria
@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2
@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2 3 жыл бұрын
@@timber543 thats racist
@cumminsman4670
@cumminsman4670 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares about ENGINEERS??? Not the Real World…..
@justinschwab175
@justinschwab175 3 жыл бұрын
Engineers. The worlds dumbest smart people.
@Patr1ck2332
@Patr1ck2332 3 жыл бұрын
Carwow stats
@nelsonbaracat
@nelsonbaracat 3 жыл бұрын
"one gallon gone, two gallons gone... oh going downhill saving fuel..." ROFL great video!
@juanpinto5743
@juanpinto5743 3 жыл бұрын
Roman after 3 defenders: “We’re not testing for reliability”
@Chopperbob56
@Chopperbob56 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure why he would say “after 3 Defenders “? They bought the first one and the engine light came on . Agreed not good . LR did replace the vehicle with an upgraded model . The second vehicle was fine but a mechanic at the LR dealership destroyed the wiring harness while attempting to install a winch . I would not say that was a Defender fail ? And now they are on there third vehicle and it is performing perfectly. I keep hearing on this and other videos the number “3’” . To be fair I think they are technically on there 2nd Defender . That being said I love these guys. Best on all of You tube!!
@saliston
@saliston 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chopperbob56 they only got such good service because it was so public.
@Chopperbob56
@Chopperbob56 3 жыл бұрын
@@saliston I’ve owned 4 land rovers in my life. Yes I’ve had the occasional issue but never been stranded. I’m a wildlife photographer so I give em hell. Yes I own the new P400 and I can honestly saw it’s the best vehicle Lr has produced. And yes I agree that the guys at TFL got special treatment . However I’ve had special also. When I need service they come and get my vehicle and leave me with a new loaner. I’m 30 miles from the dealership. So yes absolutely I agree with you but LR really has treated me pretty dang good over the years.
@Desert6G
@Desert6G 3 жыл бұрын
He will defend the Defender at all odds. There is no denying he loves that thing. But no one else does.
@gc2234
@gc2234 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chopperbob56 most of these salty Toyota fanboys have a distinct inability to count properly. 😂
@kcp7042
@kcp7042 3 жыл бұрын
Where’s Nathan and the love of his life, the Power Wagon?! This is what it is made for!!
@dietrichris
@dietrichris 3 жыл бұрын
TFL should do a long distance endurance test off road with the Raptor and TRX, maybe 100 miles or something. That might highlight a day of real off road use rather that just a couple obstacles. Same driver, fatigue, weather, fuel economy, shocks, ride, everything would get a nice test. Does anyone else agree?
@wolverine350r
@wolverine350r 3 жыл бұрын
Mojave road would be a good one for these two, not hard, but a lot of wide open areas.
@voyager11221
@voyager11221 3 жыл бұрын
definitely agreed. this test was weaaaaak.
@spencerrr9878
@spencerrr9878 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, especially since this is _not_ what the raptor and TRX are meant for, they're both a racing and trail truck, not a crawler rig like the jeep
@dieseldave12v18
@dieseldave12v18 3 жыл бұрын
TFL, please stop comparing apples and oranges, rock bouncers and prerunners. The Power Wagon is better suited to be tested against the Jeep. Take the TRX and Raptor and desert run them like they were built to do!
@austinreed347
@austinreed347 3 жыл бұрын
They are just having fun but I have to agree
@quentinfreeman7516
@quentinfreeman7516 3 жыл бұрын
I think I remember them taking the power wagon here and I'm pretty sure it did worse than literally every vehicle here
@bucanajuste3565
@bucanajuste3565 3 жыл бұрын
Roman be like over 700 horse power guys!! Tommy be like one gallon gone, two gallons gone!!
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this vid? The toupee is gone off of the Raptor!😁😁😁😁
@Matts000
@Matts000 3 жыл бұрын
Lol god that was ugly haha
@woxie4990
@woxie4990 3 жыл бұрын
The design of the Jeep, and all similar vehicles, is specifically tailored to offroading, no matter what people say. Observe, the primary design purpose of a pickup truck is work: hauling and carrying. As their usage became more popular the manufacturers had to accommodate and adapt the vehicles to secondary and tertiary capabilities: hauling (more) passengers and towing. While this TFL test is a wonderful test designed primarily around rock crawling, it is neither the only version of offroading and it is scewed in bias of the Jeep. If you feel like levelling the playing field take your Jeep on a real Baja fast run with the Raptor and then average out the overall performance. Do this with other "tests" for a more direct vehicle-to-vehicle comparison by: load each vehicle up with passengers max, payload, etc. ... then you'll have more direct comparisons. Any test that primarily revolves around rock crawling is naturally scewed to the advantage of the Jeep ... that is not unbiased nor thorough testing. While the Jeep may generally have a rock crawling advantage, with respect to tall, wide, broad people they are terribly uncomfortable. Expand your tests and you're money TFL ...
@canyonero2050
@canyonero2050 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent comment and TFL should take it to heart. Some of their videos are starting to get a little repetitive to be honest. Expanding their content to more creative, serious and indepth test would be beneficial for all.
@Oscarchiquete
@Oscarchiquete 3 жыл бұрын
@@canyonero2050 they have done this same video like 10 times by now and everyone is just waiting for the desert run.
@tanishazoa138
@tanishazoa138 2 жыл бұрын
No one cares about Baja. Most people don't even take them off road. And if they do its not Baja style. What are there 4 states with actually Baja terrain? Lol
@stanr3491
@stanr3491 3 жыл бұрын
You guys REALLY need to move on from considering Moab to be the only Off Road terrain, it is actually some of the easiest terrain for off-road and plan to test further east terrains like Tennessee, Windrock off-road park for example. Less grip, more wheel spin, more challenege.
@JahyMoonwalker
@JahyMoonwalker 3 жыл бұрын
They're based in Colorado.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, they took an old Subaru through this. Let's see some mud slinging. You aren't off-road until you can't tell what color the truck is.
@stanr3491
@stanr3491 3 жыл бұрын
@@JahyMoonwalker yeah but Andre has a CDL, time to load these rigs up and hit the road
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 3 жыл бұрын
Or you know, maybe just not use one of the easiest trails in Moab. There's plenty of challenging trails that can put any vehicle to the test, they just choose not to use them.
@djjd3027
@djjd3027 3 жыл бұрын
The FJ Cruiser. Unmodified. Just as much off road capability as the modified Jeep and the most reliable. And no issues using it everyday.
@hamleg8499
@hamleg8499 3 жыл бұрын
How it is very close between the two, the Jeep is slightly better off-road just because of its ground clearance and front and rear lockers. Fj has only a rear locker and worse clearance but still a very capable off roader. However, the fj will last 10x longer than the Jeep which makes it better in my eyes!
@timkincade9763
@timkincade9763 Жыл бұрын
The ultimate show down was WW2 . The ultimate defeat of Tokyo Toyota
@chadsilotti7519
@chadsilotti7519 3 жыл бұрын
the trucks were make for desert running not rock crawling test them there
@lincolnshirepoacher894
@lincolnshirepoacher894 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the Jeep has, what $15K of aftermarket parts to allow it not to get beached on this trail.
@richardcarrara8545
@richardcarrara8545 3 жыл бұрын
3K and still cheaper than all 75% of the other vehicles....
@Strikerage
@Strikerage 3 жыл бұрын
Was just gonna say the same thing. A simple $3000 gets that jeep more clearance, and the added weight of that truck bed cargo should hinder it, but it still barreled through. Don't hate. Jeeps are made for this kind of thing. 😁 Now, baja off-road on the other hand...🤯😅
@gunmetalblue6965
@gunmetalblue6965 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we saw more comparison in different trail conditions instead of a Approach vs Departure angle test. I know they dont design these vehicles to try to see who has the best angles. It would of been cool to comment how they handle in dirt, mud, sand, rocky terrain, and speed on dirt trails.
@Weatherby406
@Weatherby406 3 жыл бұрын
How is the power wagon not in this... it’s literally built for this.
@USAFJUNKIE
@USAFJUNKIE 3 жыл бұрын
Or the Wrangler.
@lethalweapon5897
@lethalweapon5897 3 жыл бұрын
ikr the defender's here but not the power wagon lmao
@quentinfreeman7516
@quentinfreeman7516 3 жыл бұрын
I think I remember them taking the power wagon here and I'm pretty sure it did worse than literally every vehicle here
@index6738
@index6738 3 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how multi capable TRX is. Good off-roader and wicked performance road warrior combined. Everything one could want in single package.
@JustinKingOffroad
@JustinKingOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
you can hear the gas rushing through the cylinders hahaha! that's how i feel with the power wagon offroad too lol!
@WyLEE08
@WyLEE08 3 жыл бұрын
TFL ought to put together a video addressing the high tech live valve shocks “required maintenance” according their owners manual to satisfy the warranty requirements. Bet you the cost will be SHOCKING!
@Chopperbob56
@Chopperbob56 3 жыл бұрын
My first maintenance is at 15,000 miles on my Defender. I can take it to any garage or do it myself. It’s actually against the law in the United States to require that any vehicle be serviced only by the dealer . I’ve had 4 LRs in my lifetime and never have I had any to the dealer for maintenance. Also I have never been ask for proof of the above to satisfy warranty requirements.
@SimplyCarReviews
@SimplyCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
... Ram didn't pay you but you didn't have to pay a mark up like everyone else looking for a TRX... plus you were the first to take delivery of one.
@rhettthedog7757
@rhettthedog7757 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Roman! Tommy is right, the Jeep hasn't broken, Defender, if you can keep it on the road.
@BoanergesJim
@BoanergesJim 3 жыл бұрын
I would have like to have seen the Power Wagon and the Colorado ZR2 in there as well.
@djmallinson
@djmallinson 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great example of what you guys do really well thanks and keep 'em coming. Plus I think extra brownie points for persisting with the Defender despite all the mishaps and showing it is a really great option (even if it is really expensive and will never satisfy those who are big original Defender fanboys and girls)
@danacofell3112
@danacofell3112 3 жыл бұрын
Hope there is a part 3 coming with Power wagon, tremor and AT4 heavy duties, then a winner takes all with the top from each segment. Keep up the good work guys.
@haldoglife
@haldoglife 3 жыл бұрын
Having done those trails in a mostly stock ZJ it was fun watching you guys doing them in the expensive machines. Thanks for the entertainment.
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 3 жыл бұрын
IF I were to have 1 of these vehicles to do it all, Tommy once again picks the perfect well rounded choice. Which is why I picked it for myself 2 years ago. :) It is reliable, capable, comfortable, practical and resalable. 4Runner every day of the week and twice on Sunday. And no, I am not a fanboy. But one cannot argue the facts. I want to say the FJ is the way to go, but I had that option and it was not quite as refined for everyday driving.
@flowstateoverlanding5446
@flowstateoverlanding5446 3 жыл бұрын
All trucks were amazing but there is an Easy answer to this question, which truck can go places the other cannot go? The answer is Gladiator. Plus, it’s such a good Overlander. Coming from a precious Wrangler and Tacoma owner.
@brentoramma
@brentoramma 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommy, the Select Speed control moves in 1km/hr increments or about 0.62 mph.
@tsd560ti6
@tsd560ti6 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, but wouldnt 3kph rather round to 1.9? :D
@scottboyd8892
@scottboyd8892 3 жыл бұрын
After watching the video I would go with the Jeep, but that is knowing the reliability of the Defender. On the other hand, the TRX is still amazing and I would never say no to having the Raptor. Jeep would still be for my money.
@F2FTech
@F2FTech 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy has got all of the jokes in this one 🤣 This has to be one of your best videos. The humor and the flow was top notch!
@rodneyhanbaum697
@rodneyhanbaum697 3 жыл бұрын
Part 1&2 were awesome! The TRX is nice, I gotta go with the Jeep! Defender was nice, not proven reliability though!
@es.design
@es.design 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm about to have a cow". 🤣🤣. That is tee-shirt material right there. You guys are killing me.
@randalsweeting661
@randalsweeting661 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see some loose dirt hill climbs and mud testing
@1250veyron
@1250veyron 3 жыл бұрын
So... Defender is: - The best off-road amongst the 6 vehicles, no scratches, smooth etc etc. - The most technologically advanced amongst the lot in terms of off-road and other gadgets - The best looking amongst the lot (as the video said, it can live in New York, Beverly Hills or Moab) - The most advanced engine amongst the lot with it's supercharged and mild hybrid engine. - The most comfortable amongst the group Very obvious reason why it wins on paper and in real test! Land Rovers are no doubt the best stock off-road vehicles on planet!
@Jimtoledo
@Jimtoledo 3 жыл бұрын
Lololllll there are quite different means of 'off roading' crawling is quite different than Baja! Maybe if you put them in their base environment results would vary...
@GeorgeGeo
@GeorgeGeo 3 жыл бұрын
Defender hands down and from what you brought its most impressive.
@josephwhiskeybeale
@josephwhiskeybeale 3 жыл бұрын
All these trucks are way to big to ever be considered the “world’s best off-roader”
@officialyasir
@officialyasir 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing, Jeep is good though. The full size trucks can be a little too wide and heavy for certain trails.
@jook13
@jook13 3 жыл бұрын
My suzuki samurai agrees...
@JahyMoonwalker
@JahyMoonwalker 3 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, the Defender killed it but a stock 2 door Wrangler Rubicon would have as well, and for far less money than anything else there. The 4Runner is really cool though also, just pricey with all the mods.
@HarryKuloh
@HarryKuloh 3 жыл бұрын
@@JahyMoonwalker a4runner, being called pricey, in the midst of a$100,000.00+ trx truck?
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarryKuloh well, it's proximately 45k new, with probably easy another 20k mods in it. 65k for a 4Runner has a substantial investment, considering a $5,000 XJ will outwheel it LOL.
@The-Trinity-Bro
@The-Trinity-Bro 3 жыл бұрын
"A Billy goat on Red Bull" yesss, I am stealing that one!
@POPPASHANGO
@POPPASHANGO 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Defender was impressive but depreciation and low reliability is hard to swallow for the price you pay for them. You get the FJ and the reliability for a quarter of the price. The FJ and the Jeep are my top two.
@jacobweigelt4685
@jacobweigelt4685 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all definitely should try a Ford ranger and Chevy Colorado and Toyota Tacoma on this trail and maybe modify versions of them models too that would be a great videos
@juledoren
@juledoren 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota would walk all over them
@jedifabiano930
@jedifabiano930 3 жыл бұрын
Besides individual parts they are all pretty close across dirt and mud trails except Toyota’s crawl control at the price point supersedes in the truck category.
@allenstuck2861
@allenstuck2861 3 жыл бұрын
The ranger would beat all of them
@dieseldrax
@dieseldrax 3 жыл бұрын
21:41 If you convert those speeds to KPH it's 1, 2, 3, and 4 KPH (MPH rounded to the nearest 10th). 👍
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
.62/1.24/1.86/2.48/3.1 Jeep is owned by FCA/Stellantis whatever now, so that makes sense.
@J4DS.
@J4DS. 3 жыл бұрын
Wow This was an awesome video! This is Top Quality 👌 Keep up the great work!
@rsdaarud
@rsdaarud 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Tommy's running fuel rate comment on the climbing TRX was priceless!
@theirthereandtheyre2947
@theirthereandtheyre2947 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a brand new TRX on a car hauler. I can’t imagine taking a brand new vehicle worth north of a years salary and doing harsh off-roading.
@Ryno-fp7pm
@Ryno-fp7pm 3 жыл бұрын
The owners of them can't imagine taking them off pavement either.
@joelramdhan405
@joelramdhan405 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryno-fp7pm that’s so true lol my friend takes his f250 off-roading more than his raptor xD
@oscarvargas691
@oscarvargas691 3 жыл бұрын
I love my gladiator. The other 2 are also great and would love to own them also.
@jamestindall67
@jamestindall67 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys love what you do keep up the great work. Just gonna give my opinion, I just would like to see you do comparison with standard 4x4 trucks again like the the Z71, Fx4, Frontier Pro 4x you get the picture for us blue collar folks.
@kfrosty
@kfrosty 3 жыл бұрын
Roman-“When In doubt throttle out!” Andre-“NOOOOO” lmaooo
@dallasmellsop5488
@dallasmellsop5488 3 жыл бұрын
Again, youre only testing approach and departure angle, show rock crawling mudding etc
@notsofast5495
@notsofast5495 3 жыл бұрын
That’s my thought too. This entire test could have been recreated with a tape measure in the dealer lot.
@HAHA.GoodMeme
@HAHA.GoodMeme 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy yeeting the gladiator down that rock was glorious
@sotofrancisco111318
@sotofrancisco111318 3 жыл бұрын
Raptor vs TRX Baja Mode Racing ( Sand.. Whoops..Jumps ) you guys are the best by far so you guys know you have to make this video !! 💪🏻🤙🏻
@nicholassmith7048
@nicholassmith7048 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy, the increments of the Gladiator's hill descent control is in 0.6 miles per hour because 0.6 miles per hour equals 1 kilometer per hour and Jeep is a proponent of the metric system.
@traildawgsoffroad5156
@traildawgsoffroad5156 3 жыл бұрын
On the frame bender, the raptor clearly took a harder line and the other 2 were 3 ft right. Just saying
@jsSeJaMs
@jsSeJaMs 3 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed on the TRX the fog lights will turn on when the vehicle is moving so if you turn the wheel to the left left fog lamp will turn on as a indicator like high-end cars have try it out
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 3 жыл бұрын
The Raptor is better value for money compared to the TRX tho. Reasonable mpg, has cameras, sunroof and only marginally slower.
@MrJamesLuz
@MrJamesLuz 3 жыл бұрын
Easiest summary between the two: Raptor is refined even to be your only vehicle, daily driver, family hauler, etc. TRX is a great option if you can afford it as a weekender, you have multiple vehicles and an efficient daily driver.
@chuckcribbs3398
@chuckcribbs3398 3 жыл бұрын
For $40k less, the Ram Power Wagon is the best off-road truck. It’s a proven beast.
@stout_tossme7541
@stout_tossme7541 3 жыл бұрын
For this kind of off-roading? Yeah. I agree. If you want a large truck. The TRX and Raptor are built for a different purposes.
@teop7887
@teop7887 3 жыл бұрын
The Toyota was too heavily modified to even be considered. I agree with Andre and Tommy: a Rubicon, be it Wrangler or Gladiator, is simply the best off-roader on the market. The TRX is too big, too powerful, too heavy, and obviously too expensive. The Raptor is better than the former, being lighter and with better off-road tech and equipment, but it is very wide and calls for steep prices. The Defenders demand respect, but reliability is iffy, and as soon as you climb up the specs trims and options, you can quickly hit $80+ The Gladiator it is. 😎👍 p.s. ....and Iveco Daily 4x4 would have been a nice addition, those things are popular in Australia, true off-road monsters! 😁
@mp9350
@mp9350 3 жыл бұрын
The gladiator in its stock form I don’t think would’ve fared as well as the bigger trucks in their stock form. Gladiator had a 2” lift and 35” tires
@thecappy
@thecappy 3 жыл бұрын
Take the big trucks out to the sand dunes. They are not trail trucks.
@cgbowhunting5419
@cgbowhunting5419 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Those two trucks would be an absolute blast in the dunes. The Jeep not so much. Instead of Moab, they should head out to Sand Hollow and blast through the dunes. Then if they get stuck they can just call Matt, LOL.
@stephenzerfas5307
@stephenzerfas5307 3 жыл бұрын
@@trailrunnah8886 I made a call! :-)
@gabeah
@gabeah 3 жыл бұрын
I think a 2-3” lifted 4Runner on 33” tires offers a ton of versatility and is by far more reliable than the other vehicles. Way more cost effective as well. 👍🏼
@m.c.clap-yo-handz7632
@m.c.clap-yo-handz7632 3 жыл бұрын
Defender is definitely the best in this off road capability test. But yeah, reliability is definitely a problem. 9/10 it’ll get you there and back, but that one time it’ll leave you stranded where the others won’t
@RichardsWorld
@RichardsWorld 2 жыл бұрын
If it hasn’t been invented yet, you could make something to fit in the tow hitch, and it has a steel roller under it so it doesn’t rub on the tow hitch. It rolls on the steel roller.
@rc51bigdaddy
@rc51bigdaddy 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a boring 2021 4Runner TRD Pro:) Finding it pretty versatile. The Defender is amazing, but pricey and complex. 4Runner is old school, capable, and above all very reliable. Good fit for my needs!
@808touge
@808touge 3 жыл бұрын
Really like where this channel is going. Tommy with his banter reminds me of old top gear. Keep this going
@Malc664
@Malc664 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Tommy. As the most intelligent guy and with analyzing thought on all things, he is right. The 4Runner has comfort on-road and good offroad with mods.
@Rohit0Singh
@Rohit0Singh 3 жыл бұрын
Im honestly happy they didnt change the look of the Raptor much I really love how it looks
@annon91221
@annon91221 3 жыл бұрын
So no Zr2... bison with 35s is what I have been wanting to see... especially for approach/depature and articulation... ah well..
@joshmclain2152
@joshmclain2152 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a Raptor, TRX, Gladiator Mojave comparison. High speed run, maybe leave the ground a couple of times. I’m really interested in how the Gladiator Mojave would compare.
@theshadypilot
@theshadypilot 3 жыл бұрын
The Forunner because" it has the best compromise between on road driveability and its a killer off road" No no no stop the bus. It would SUCK on road. Only the Defender here can claim to be any good on road in this company...
@usaclaimsthemoon4198
@usaclaimsthemoon4198 3 жыл бұрын
Not a defender fan, but this is very true. My dads 17 4Runner is trash on the road
@timber543
@timber543 3 жыл бұрын
The defender only wins if you stay real close to the dealerships service station
@timber543
@timber543 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotrod7603 well, if you're dumb enough to throw your money away on one of the fastest depreciating vehicles on the market go ahead, you do you, buy a JLR product. On the other hand, toyotas hold their value better than any vehicle on the market. Saying toyjunk just makes you sound like an 11 year old
@timber543
@timber543 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotrod7603 you're a fool if you don't take resale into the equation
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 3 жыл бұрын
Andre in the Raptor on “one tree hill” on rocks, a high friction surface - turns on the rear locker. Don’t need it there and you don’t use a locker on high friction surfaces. The Gladiator HDC in increments of 0.6mph will be because it’s based on metric units of km/h most likely. Basically 1, 2, 3 km/h or thereabouts. Defender wins hands down - no question.
@crsantin
@crsantin 3 жыл бұрын
The big pickups did better than I thought they would. They are massive trucks. I hate to say it but the Defender did the best off road.
@maadmaxx123
@maadmaxx123 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy: "No Problem... cause it doesn't weigh as much as a city bus" Also Tommy: *Ignoring the sounds of his truck having the departure angles of a city bus* "No issues, no sound of anything there. The sound of Music!"
@myharpoon1976
@myharpoon1976 3 жыл бұрын
21:39 Tommy, it starts at 0.6 mph and jumps from 1.8 to 2.5 mph because the interval is 1 kph and there's rounding
@spunkflunk
@spunkflunk Жыл бұрын
Do they get out of the vehicle every 10 seconds to set up a camera shot??
@tyjenkin7365
@tyjenkin7365 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Proud owner of a 2020 Gladiator Rubicon!
@sergeykhaitov678
@sergeykhaitov678 3 жыл бұрын
by far best boys' toys channel! Fantastic content! can't wait for (if it comes) new Grand Cherokee trailhawk.
@lorenzonevarez5973
@lorenzonevarez5973 3 жыл бұрын
Andre: Well you're the hippo (walks away) 😂 Andre is the best!
@ThyBlackWings
@ThyBlackWings 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of your best videos so far, guys. The Trx is a beast if you have the money to feed it. If you wanna play the offroad game, just buy a two door Rubicon and you won't regret anything. Especially if they come out with a V8 soon.
@dudefromlaveenaz
@dudefromlaveenaz 3 жыл бұрын
When be's complaining about the crawl speed, anyone else just think... "This guy has never heard of a kilometer has he?"
@DocHolliday3841
@DocHolliday3841 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone care about a kilometer in America? This is America
@gokufighter21
@gokufighter21 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see how they all handle in deep mud through the woods though... thats real off roading!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 жыл бұрын
Truck King took a TRX through some deep snow in the woods!
@gokufighter21
@gokufighter21 3 жыл бұрын
@@trailrunnah8886 gonna watch now!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 жыл бұрын
@@gokufighter21 awesome! It's becoming my favorite channel for truck stuff, they have their own property and they really do take them out.
@andrewstevens5572
@andrewstevens5572 3 жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH, BROTHER!!!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Is this a highly caffeinated Tommy here, he was on fire with the zingers! The two big trucks did impressively well considering their size, but a great test of them would be to take them out in the dunes and let them rip it up in their true environment. Obviously the Jeep is going to be an off-road weapon in this type of terrain, that's exactly what it's made for. As far as scraping the hitch, I just think of a hitch as a skid plate for the bumper, it's most likely the strongest point of the vehicle anyway 😁
@dlefeb67
@dlefeb67 3 жыл бұрын
Always fantastic videos. regardless of being a bit dated, the Raptor still looks meaner then the TRX. Something about the front of the TRX just doesnt flow. Overall the TRX and Raptor are both designed for Baja type running, and thats what the test should explore, which it doesnt.
@tenolee377
@tenolee377 3 жыл бұрын
That's a tough call. After all, you're testing two desert runners and one rock crawler on a rock crawling course. That being said, they all passed with flying colors. None of them had to concede an obstacle. At that point, they're equal, only leaving ground clearance. To which the TRX won seeing as, with the exception of the "Butt Scratcher" where it was a tie with the Raptor, it had the least clearance issues. And, yes I'd love to see a comparison with the two desert runners doing what they were designed to do.
@MarkTodd33
@MarkTodd33 3 жыл бұрын
These trucks were make for high speed desert running not rock crawling. If you try and corner at high speed with the TRX you will roll the truck. It has massive understeer that everyone avoids talking about. To me that's the most important factor about the Raptor. It can handle like a sports car and is stable in corners at high speed. New Raptor with 37's with be unstoppable.
@trevorcorriere288
@trevorcorriere288 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel but this was all about entry and departure angles... that’s maybe 10% of this debate. Kinda let down..
@paulstake
@paulstake 3 жыл бұрын
The best off roader in that test was clearly the Defender. If scraping wasn't the benchmark of success then the Gladiator appeared to have performed the best... Take the stock Defender on the Rubicon trail and I think you'd have a different outcome. I would get the Gladiator... That's my take...
@StayLoudMC
@StayLoudMC 3 жыл бұрын
Great video TFL. I agree with Roman that the Discovery wins because of no scrapes and the everyday comfort that it offers, but like Tommy said, if the reliability is counted, you have to eliminate it. If I had one to buy, it would be the FJ. Looks cool, doesn't exist anymore and the only vehicle there that the value will go up. FJ for the win!
@80KG_Costco_Chicken
@80KG_Costco_Chicken 3 жыл бұрын
The more I drove other offroad vehicles, the more I understand how good Jeeps are. The suspension is just so much better than most road cars. And even I really love big horsepower, I have to say gearing is more important unless you are only doing high-speed stuffs.
@sourabhpurohit4140
@sourabhpurohit4140 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video guys. As real world off road as it can be
@stephanwilliot2324
@stephanwilliot2324 3 жыл бұрын
Still think the Defender was too notch. Roman summed it up brilliantly. For me the real question is Defender vs Wrangler. Out of the box and daily drive the Defender is awesome. If you are into rock crawling then I do believe the Wrangler is king. The Raptor and Trx will rule the desert for Baja runs. That’s what they are made for. The 4 runner is mister reliable but adding 15K or more if you want to modify it as a daily drive with those tyres not sure 🤔. At the end of the day it depends on two things: budget and needs. I’m glad I got the Defender suits my needs to a tea.
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 3 жыл бұрын
Well put. The Wrangler definitely has the most out-of-the-box capability in terms of simply getting through something the others can't, however add in other variables to suite your individual needs and the others can shine. Want to go fast in the desert instead of over technical trails? TRX or Raptor. Want to haul or tow more? Or have good moderate off-road ability and still have a high level of on-road comfort? Defender comes to the front. Care only about maximum reliability over anything else? Pick a Toyota.
@OverlandTT
@OverlandTT 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, what a brilliant production, enjoyed two mugs full of coffee watching this! Great job!
@jerrodcorey25
@jerrodcorey25 3 жыл бұрын
9:48 Tommy that had me laughing for real. LOLOLOL. Funny because it's true.
@JustinKingOffroad
@JustinKingOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
you guys were cracking off beauties this whole video haha! great way to start saturday!
@Captain-Awesome
@Captain-Awesome 3 жыл бұрын
Might not be a Baja Desert run but fun to see the trucks out there on the trails.
@MHendrix
@MHendrix 3 жыл бұрын
All super super cool vehicles in this contest ! The V8 is coming for the Defender and that will give it a definite boost.
@rp3823
@rp3823 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the “One gallon gone. Two gallons gone.” 😂 #AboutThatTRX
@sourabhpurohit4140
@sourabhpurohit4140 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair with the Raptor, it was taking a much difficult line at the frame bender than the TRX and Jeep
@vondecker7774
@vondecker7774 3 жыл бұрын
Ah man I so would pick the Raptor over all of them. Yea it’s bigger than most but all the spaces are more usable and I won’t be hunting for a gas station very mile I drive!!! Very comfortable as a daily and can used for work, home, and play all in 1 truck! Love the commentary by Tommy about it!lol The Raptor has leading off-road technology for all terrain scenarios. It can score medium in rock crawling but beat or match the one of all those vehicles in Baja terrain. Like Roman said “It’s the scalpel”. Great video and commentary guys!! Keep up the good work!!! I’d buy that Raptor even if it has Moab love marks on it!!!lol
@jonathanroybacchus3423
@jonathanroybacchus3423 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to praise you guys for the quality of your videos, especially your drone shots. They look magnificent.
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