Misadventure: It's Hard to Compare the Wrangler to the Bronco in Snow When We Get Them BOTH Stuck!

[@gregferris9378]

I hope Tommy realizes just how lucky he is to have a father to do stuff with and have fun with.

[@robsolf]

Yep! My Dad and I both loved cars and trucks... racing and offroading. Back when he was alive, neither of us really had the money to do either regularly. Now I have the money to do it, and he's gone. Gotta take the time and opportunity while you have it, cuz someday, you won't.

[@sickjohnson]

Couldn't agree more, mad respect Roman!

[@JohnWilliams-hn3wn]

I agree, I haven't seen my biological father since I was 7 but always told myself when I had kids I would be there for them and do everything with them. They are both in their late 20's now and I can say I did my best. It sticks with kids forever so do it while you can.

[@MrAchilles113]

exactly what I was thinking!

[@sonictech1000]

Not only that but they're building the family business together!

[@wade7959]

BTW, if you paint the wrangler tow hooks red they'll add about 20hp and certainly recover other vehicle more easily. It's science.

[@dexterrr9163]

Trail science thing

[@richardthomas1531]

BTW. If you waited 2 years for a Bronco. You didn't wait long enough.

[@alt-rider]

...and 30 lb/ft of torque. There is much power in the red recovery hook engine upgrade.

[@macsloan58]

What happens if they are painted orange??

[@BeauNadian]

If you paint them blue you get extra weight and a battery too

[@zeke7142003]

Get a kinetic energy rope for recovery. It allows for the vehicle that is pulling to get some momentum and allows for a gradual build up of energy.

[@TFLoffroad]

Will do

[@Wyoboy7220]

Yes, excellent ropes!

[@MS-mr4zm]

1000% I have a “bubba rope” & I was able to yank a Chevy 3500 dually plow that was stuck plowing backed himself into a corner w/ a snow berm behind him I pulled out w/ my 2020 Raptor- w/o the bubba rope I wouldn’t have been able to do it w/ a chain no bueno & a regular nylon/kevlar strap I wouldn’t be able to get enough initial momentum going w/o damaging my truck

[@trailrunnah8886]

Or a Matt's Recovery Rope! That's a great idea for a crossover episode too, head out to Sand Hollow to get stuck and make a call to get pulled out by Matt.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

I can yank full-size trucks out of the snow with my Can Am x3 using my smitty bilt kinetic rope...

[@dgw4049]

Watching a father and son have fun is great entertainment. Thx guys. Maybe my son and i will get stuck in the snow someday

[@montechie]

If you're not getting stuck, you're not trying hard enough. Also, you can get out of a lot with a shovel and creativity. Great video! The back and forth between Roman and Tommy are the best part

[@abouttime7316]

So glad to see you guys showing longer trail rides and airing down!!

[@dalejones4322]

My new favorite video. These snow videos are so much fun. That Bronco is awesome but I love that little jeep of yours Tommy. I really couldn't believe what all it did on that snowy trail. The camera work and editing were perfect as usual. I loved how you slowed the music down in the slow mow shots. Those funny little extras don't go unnoticed. Roman, you have a super capable crew and you are truly blessed to have all these adventures with your son.

[@jeffk464]

Here we are sitting 9 months latter and I'm still waiting for the car market to catch up to demand. I was thinking of a Grand Cherokee, now I'm kind of leaning towards one of these Broncos.

[@RollForever88]

Love everything about Tommy’s Jeep. Capable, looks good, is fairly affordable.

[@GetOutSmore]

I’m so glad that for $10K more than Tommy spent, I got a 4 door Base auto Sasquatch with front and rear lockers and all that clearance and low gearing and GOAT modes (only other options were Aux Switches and on board padded door storage bags). You can get a base and only real thing you’d miss that you can’t add (off road wise) is the electronic sway bar disconnect. 8” touch screen wireless SYNC system, LED headlights, auto windows, remote start through app and through ALEXA. If I went 2 door, manual, it wouldn’t be much different from his MSRP. Especially if I dropped Sasquatch, but no way was I doing that. But so many more creature comforts with capability on top of it. Ford should really be applauded for offering the Squatch on any model instead of just praising Jeep for offering a bare bones with no off-road oriented option model. Thank goodness for competition. And I enjoyed this video. Keep em coming.

[@Dom2.0]

Exactly 💯

[@YoFool.1506]

Should have been riding on Fallen Wildpeak AT3Ws. Tri peak tires with a special rubber compound on the passenger varient (NOT ON THE LT VARIENT)

[@sonnynick1]

You guys are absolutely living out my dream job in this video. Getting paid to have fun as a father and son duo is pretty amazing.

[@danthompson1467]

I think Tommy has got a good handle on real life no payments and a iconic jeep that looks and runs great 👍. A simple man doesn’t need all that extra crap to to go wrong 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@MS-mr4zm]

Agree. I like the jeep w/ a stick shift, one of the most reliable, & if/when it does break- easy to work on DIY vehicles out there

[@MisterrJmark]

Living in a snowy region myself. Sometimes the best thing to do to get un-stuck is nice and easy on the throttle. When I gun it it cause the snow under my tires to get to smooth reducing my grip. I noticed with a little throttle and repositioning it's easier to get out as opposed to throwing snow around.

[@spinuck9180]

Yep. Roll forward until you get stuck. Stop tire spin immediately so you don’t dig holes. Back up on your tracks a short ways. Then roll on the throttle to avoid while spin. Make it a bit further. Rinse and repeat. Especially fun doing that to get around hopelessly sunk rigs.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

I learned that smooth and steady is easier to drive in snow whereas using the floor till ya see GOD Mode !!!

[@johnswanson3741]

These guys never cease to amaze me with their method of operation!

[@andrifsig]

ok...guys...first off, never pull a stuck vehicle backwards using reverse. In most vehicles it is a much weaker component than pulling forwards. Second, please use a winch or a kinetic rope. Much easier on the attachment points and on the drivetrain itself. Third. Get a decent shovel, those plastic ones will break at the first sight of solid ice or hardpacked snow.

[@FreakyT333]

That looks like about as much fun as one can have off-road!! I love snow wheeling, so much challenge yet so little clean up 😉 Also a kinetic rope would be a great addition to your gear, much better than a strap as you likely are already aware.

[@markiskool]

I have an '03 ti with in inline 6 and a 5 speed. It has no buttons for "modes", I simply have to know how to drive it. Good luck with all those gadgets.

[@matt2395]

Another excellent video that shows how these vehicles actually perform in realistic conditions.

[@michaeldbhawker3556]

They didn't perform at all due to incorrect driving and rubber. Its 2 inches of snow give me a break.

[@beaches2mountains230]

Locking diff's make a HUGE difference whenever Your in the snow! In my experience LOCKING DIFF'S AND TIRES are the difference makers whether you make it up the trail or not.

[@fj400007]

Having the rear differential locked on off camber trails will get you in trouble, not always the best way to go.

[@mtnbiker49]

Ford really hit the ball out of the park with offroad comfort of the Bronco. If they weren't so expensive, I'd certainly buy one just for those features.

[@johnswanson3741]

I'm not a guinea pig! I'll just wait a couple years to find out the weak points in design.

[@Reecesavage-Alwayswin]

@@johnswanson3741 rack and pinion plus the tie rods there you go.

[@beardedgaming1337]

ive worked on a few of these, they do look and feel nice. my only gripe is how weak their body panels are. its tissue paper steel. fine for on the road but if you buy one to go off road, your going to cave in a panel if a tree even looks its way, much less sliding into one.

[@garthhowe297]

When I did some plowing in the mid-seventies with a Jimmy, I learned an important lesson... when you get stuck with 4wd, you are REALLY stuck. Great episode guys!

[@parkerwilson7860]

My grandpa taught me how to wheel in his TJ. I've learned to love the way he built it, with a good set of 31s, armor and a winch it was reliable and steady off-road. But most of all, he always was in 2wd. You could bang around tracks all day and always get out because 4wd was your backup; the winch would solve problems that 4 wheel couldn't. And that 2.5l sipped fuel in 2 wheel, had quite a range of road.

[@tjadamsZ06]

You should look into a kinetic recovery rope, they work much better and are also much easier on both vehicles.

[@Owens_Racing]

100% Time for a bubba rope episode. Edit: Watch Matt’s Recovery to see a kinetic rope in real world action. No hard hits and you want to get some speed to load the rope with energy. Amazing how well they work. Also snatch straps, not tow straps are only good for like ten hits and then they are static and basically a tow rope. No stretch left, Kinetic rope last until you chafe or cut the outer braiding along the rope. 👍🏻

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

​@@Owens_Racing Straps are garbage unless you're tying down your load.

[@michaeldbhawker3556]

dynamic ropes make no difference if you are using the wrong rubber for the job. Muds and snowflake bullshit are NOT dedicated winter tires and augment with chains. That said these 2 need to understand physics and momentum. They need a training course.

[@mardamek]

Hi, Tommy. The more I watch videos of your Jeep, the more I appreciate it. There is just something special about having something so "analog", "spartan" and relatively affordable that "more solid" and expensive alternatives cannot provide. Of course, 33K is nothing to sneeze at and I'm sure you've saved up for years to be able to afford that but just the thought of not having car payments, knowing that the car is your's (not the bank's) puts you in a different mindset, which has to be a factor in how you enjoy your time behind the wheel. After all, we're people, and we perceive the world through not only rational brain exercises, but through other subjective factors. Enjoy your Wrangler and stay safe! ... I so wish I could have one (but as a man with a family and limited budget I have to feel "right" with my RAV4 instead ...)

[@theeddorian]

There is an immense reduction in things that can break. You can open or close windows even with the power off. All the locks required a physical key, and you could lock your keys in the vehicle. No mercy on carelessness. I used to have an Isuzu Trooper, 1990, which was an amazingly capable vehicle. Pure mechanical set up except that the hub locking was electrical. Manual transmission. Now I have a 2016 Rubicon Hard Rock, and find myself thinking back to my Trooper fondly. It agile, and narrow enough to squeeze through some tight passages that the Rubicon couldn't handle, and that Bronco is wider than the Rubicon.

[@mardamek]

@@theeddorian Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts about the very important "theory vs practice" topic. Most people will follow journalists and magazine articles about numerical descriptions of the vehicle, but only those who use them in real life within a specific environment will be aware of the "little things" that can make a difference more than one could imagine.

[@theeddorian]

​@@mardamek Yes indeed. For me the things that really count are what make it easy to operate and maintain, while using it on trails and off road. That means I don't like carpets for example. That has been a problem with every vehicle I have had since 1990. I work(ed) in the field, walking in places that load up your boors and pants with foxtails, grass seeds, pitch, mud, dust, gravel, . . . It is a tremendous nuisance trying to get that out of carpets. Dealers go all stunned-duck looking if you tell them you don't want carpet, or a fancy sound system.

[@MarkIrwin02]

@@mardamek i have a wrangler unlimited and i feel it woukd also double as a family car as well. I love mine. Though wish it was a higher trim level like sahara or rubicon. But is it a vehicle id be willing to take on a family road trip yes it is. I suggest you check out the wrangler unlimiteds.

[@mardamek]

@@MarkIrwin02 Thanks for the advice. Glad to know you're enjoying your Wrangler and that it can be more than just a rugged off-roader. With that being said, I have to be honest, don't really do off-roading myself. Most of my driving is on paved roads and the thought of having a car/SUV that can handle the occasional dirt roads is good enough for me. In fact, all my "complaints" about the "shortcomings" on my RAV4 are things that are not car-like enough (steering/handling/control). However, in an ideal world I WOULD like to have a regular, sporty car and a second one as a true off-roader (Wrangler or 4Runner). And when it comes to off-roading, the cheaper the vehicle, the better it is because you can drive it with more confidence.

[@awesomeness369]

Anybody else notice how satisfying it was when the Bronco's tires got caked up and it made a perfect slick track in the snow 🤤🤤🤤 3:30

[@jediguy634]

Ryan and his Washington 4Runner are very familiar with those tricky trees!

[@-Jethro-]

When I used to do a lot of snow wheeling in a Samurai, I found that BFG ATs worked better than BFG MTs. The ATs would usually float on top of the snow, and the MTs would often dig down and get me stuck.

[@Str8Ripper1776]

Paddle tires work good in deep snow

[@-Jethro-]

@@Str8Ripper1776 My poor old Samurai probably didn’t have enough power to make good use of a paddle tire. But with enough power I bet it would be a good choice.

[@michaeldbhawker3556]

ITs all bullshit unless you are using DEDICATED winter studded tires. Snowflake ratings are utter bullshit. Augment with chains when needed

[@tomaszfalkowski7508]

Ford did a good job making the Bronco as multiple videos on this page have proved that to be true. From a conservative realistic standpoint Jeep is ripping a lot of its customers off because the Jeep Wrangler is the same price as the Bronco but the Bronco offers the same performance if not better and is bigger more compact and more fully loaded. Anybody who would buy the Wrangler is wasting their money when they have better options.

[@runnerdude1990]

Tip: get a kinetic recovery rope. You wouldn’t have gotten stuck while towing out your dad! Thanks for the content! Love watching.

[@theeddorian]

That is what I was going to suggest. You beat me to it.

[@billredding2000]

True...you don't jerk-out a vehicle with a tow-strap...for that use a kinetic rope/snatch-strap only! -- BR

[@qo2rj]

There's a youtube channel which comes to mind on that topic :-D

[@billredding2000]

@@qo2rj Well, these guys should know that -- isn't it "Off Roading-101" basic stuff? For all the times they've been off-road, they still always seem to be unprepared (not to mention their off-road diving "skills" never seem to improve, either). But then we aren't watching TFL videos for THOSE reasons, right? ;-) -- BR

[@Ballantrae]

@@theeddorian likewise.

[@ronaldbeck1762]

My C300 4matic would have ZERO problems with such a small amount of snow. I drive through that often ...

[@roccoracer]

The Bronco is an awesome vehicle. Like Tommy I just bought myself a Jeep and I love it. Mine is a gladiator. I dont regret buying it but the Bronco excites me too.

[@johnswanson3741]

Just don't understand the concept of the Gladiator. Too short of a box to stretch out and sleep in.

[@randallfender96]

I do a lot of snow driving in my Nissan Titan, and am amazed at how much dificulty people have in youtube vids. I have no trouble in 20" of fresh snow, but I am running snow tires. They really do work.

[@zmotorpro]

One word, "chains." If you've never wheeled in the snow with chains, you need to. You will be amazed. I'll 2nd the kinetic recovery rope.

[@ThatSoonerGuy]

I love these new Broncos. My first vehicle at 16 years old was a ratty $750 Bronco that I couldn’t get stuck without trying. If someone from my high school was stuck somewhere, I was always the first call. That thing was a blast until it started having some serious trouble and I had to get rid of it. Lots of electrical issues with it after a while. I’ve always loved Broncos and if the new ones weren’t so expensive that’s what I would be driving right now. I was very happy to see how well Ford did with these. They seemed to have taken every little thing into consideration and give Jeep a run for their money. Looks like a blast out there in the snow!

[@WW-wf8tu]

Congratulations on finally getting "stuck" lol That is the proper use of the word. When the vehicle is unable to recover itself, you are stuck. And who got stuck 1st? The heavyweight being "crazy" lol And the flea comes to the rescue. However, I will say this, once again, proof you don't have to have modern 4WD OR tech. to get the job done. Tommy's old school rig with proper driving can get it done. :) Was properly entertained by this one guys. Good job!

[@HyadumHH]

You can have 5wd instead of 4, using AT/MT tires in the snow will not be as successful as dedicated winter tires.

[@pmw1715]

Y’all should do a comparison of a base bronco with the Sasquatch package. And the comparable jeep for that price! The base Sasquatch is such a good deal and no one talks about it.

[@gdo3510]

I agree. I just wish I could actually get one that isn’t marked up like crazy and not have to wait at least a year for it.

[@erringobragh3138]

Hands down....LOVE SNOW WHEELING!!!...Spent 4 years just west of Denver with my 1999 TJ....Locked Lifted on 33s then....Geez I loved the mountains....any way great Video...good work! One beat down....Deep snow starts at your bumper....LOL

[@aldo90731]

Great video, guys! My takeaway from watching the entire video, including the postscript, is: a bare bones Wrangler with no fancy electronic modes, no lockers, no 35s, no swaybar gimmicks, will keep up with and, when it comes to it, even rescue a fully-loaded Bronco that cost twice as much and weighs 20% more.

[@TubeRLH]

I wouldn't get a big head over a very vague comparison... Jealous Jeeper.🙄

[@aldo90731]

Jealous of what? Shitty hardtops? Rattly windows? Blown engines?

[@TubeRLH]

@@aldo90731 Name one vehicle that the first year or two didn't have issues to work out. There has NEVER been this much interest in a new vehicle coming out so everyone knows about every single defect it has. Oh, and your precious bear basic Jeep didn't keep up with the Bronco; to be second in fresh snow is half the task and it had to blast up the hill where the Bronco slowly climbed up unlevel slippery lumps. Also, the Dad didn't know how to use the Goat modes; you don't use Baha mode to blast up a snowy hill, Mud & Ruts Mode would have given it the necessary RPM with the correct lockers and throttle level for the task. I don't understand the need to talk sh!t about the new boy in town, it just shows how insecure about your beloved Jeep you are. You should be happy for the competition to get Jeep makers off their stale ass and build a better Rig.

[@aldo90731]

@@TubeRLH Sorry, Bronco's issues fall well beyond normal first year issues. Ford has clearly done an excellent job on the marketing front, but it has dropped the ball at every turn in the manufactacturing, production and distribution fronts. Watch the Ice Mountain videos out there and you will get a flavor for the debacle the Bronco launch has been

[@TubeRLH]

@@aldo90731 I don't normally call people names but you are all kinds and shapes of ignorant. First of all the demand for the new Bronco was double what Ford anticipated. The China Virus hit the world and there is a shortage of everything under the sun. China makes the chips required to complete Bronco builds to clear out ice mountain and China is holding back on delivery. The first Hard Top Manufacture Co couldn't get the chemicals required to make the tops properly, they also came from China so that didn't work out. Everyone wants things to be cheap. The American Unions get outrageous wages for labor so lots of manufacturing went to China for their slave labor. Now America is dependent on China for everything, even most of our medications. Ford doesn't make the Hard Tops, the Soft Tops, the Chips, and the circuit bds so what is Ford going to do? Ignorant people want to blame Ford for everything, it doesn't mean they are right. Do your homework instead of repeating posts from idiots.

[@michaelvrbanac6923]

Having done tons of winter drift busting and two tracking back in the 70's with a 3/4 ton chevy 4x4 and a GMC Jimmy in northern Michigan as youth, I am baffled how these modern 4x4's don't seem to be able to handle snow very well. We actually would be pushing snow so deep that it's coming over the hood at times. Yes, we would have to stop, backup, and then get going again, but we always kept going, never getting stuck for very long. Understanding momentum, rocking, and traction are really important to keeping your rig from getting really stuck. I recall a high school buddy of mine had a CJ5 with big tires, and he would go off road in the snow to see if he could get it stuck. Was really hard to stop that rig.

[@ofermorag]

You two keep making heartfelt family videos. Keep it up! A true inspiration. (BTW we got high centered in the snow in a new D110 for 2 days recently. It was an adventure).

[@theinternets7516]

I hate different drive modes. For that reason I love your wrangler, Tommy. Put a Eaton Truetrac in the front and it will go anywhere.

[@fretless05]

I didn't know that the Willys had a drift mode... sliding around that corner looked like a lot of fun! Dare looked sketchy; you guys are gutsy to skid and slide up that hill with all those trees and rocks. BTW, the Bronco needs a name, hearing "Go Bronco" as the tires spun was a little corny. On the PS, lesson 4 is to use a dynamic strap for snow recovery so the recovery vehicle won't stop and get stuck.

[@jimmyjames8736]

Great job Tommy. Good to see you romp it and make that Jeep dance a bit. And getting to rescue the Bronco had to be a fun bonus. I used to have a '73 Bronco that I loved. But only Jeep has been there year after year with solid trail machines always available.

[@Wrangzilla]

Those 100 modes are cool and all, but that’s just more to break in the long run. 2wd, 4lo, and 4hi are good enough if you know what yours doing.

[@MS-mr4zm]

The modes won’t “break” anything- their just software crap, they could all not work & still have 4H/4L & locking diffs

[@plus790]

You still need lockers sometimes.

[@andrewsnow7386]

As a committed snow wheeler (at least my wife says I should be committed), I will say wheel spin can be good or bad depending on conditions. If you have ice under the snow, or snow that packs and polishes to ice, then wheel spin can be bad. In other cases, digging through the snow can get you to better traction. Here wheel spin can be good. As you hinted at at the end, snow comes in many different varieties. Each time out you have to experiment and see what works. However, in the dense "Cascade Concrete" we usually have in western Washington, very slow speed with NO spin is often the answer, and one that is seldom tried by less experienced snow wheelers.

[@norwegianblue2017]

It would be interesting to see a battle of the entry-level off-roaders. Maybe cap the price at $35k and see what the various manufacturers can do with that.

[@street_legal_go_kart7356]

Can buy jk sport and build it 4 less . 3.6 does well .

[@Reecesavage-Alwayswin]

That's easily a base sas

[@AllroundSwizzy]

As I got VERY lucky, i just want to share this here because i think it's important. All-Terrain / Mud Terrain if Winter rated will handle Snow without a huge problem. But the more compact it gets, the less traction. You will be sliding with close to no control at all. If you are in an ICY area it is well worth investing in Winter tires. If it's consistently snowing you can do with AT/MT. In that sense, have a safe spring and enjoy the trails.

[@scottyellis3442]

What a way to start off my Saturday, love the ride-a-longs. Good job to the guys standing out in the cold holding the cameras. Love all the videos. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@SPN16]

My wife has a 2013 Wrangler Sport S 2 Door 5 speed auto since 2016 and I just got 2 months ago a 2020 Wrangler Sport 2 Door 6 speed manual. We love how it handles in the snow with KO2's. But even when they had Michelin LTX MS2 handled very well deep snow

[@TheMeanmarine13]

I love my Fords, especially the Bronco. But I caught myself rooting for the "little Jeep that could". 😁 Cool vid guys 👍

[@timjchick]

Snowheelin is the best! I had a CJ5 in the early 80’s in Maine. I used to put chains on the rear tires in deep snow and it was a beast. Add a kinetic rope to your recovery arsenal. It works so much better in that scenario to get a vehicle unstuck. It allows the lighter vehicle to give it more of a tug without introducing a hard shock like the tow strap will. The kinetic rope stretches and then uses the stored energy to help tug the stuck vehicle out.

[@JoshuaBishop93]

Content: Original Production: Top Notch Passion & Community: A+ I’ve been watching TFL since 2011, whether for vehicle shopping or just for entertainment. Not only are the vehicles great but the camaraderie amongst the TFL Team, especially between Roman & Tomy, makes all the content worthwhile. Keep it up y’all & thanks for the continued great content.

[@brandonarmstrong724]

I won’t tear you to shreds over getting stuck in the snow, but what these comments should tearing you to shreds over is not using a kinetic rope and soft shackles to do a snatch pull. At least your snatch pull was gentle and you didn’t do something completely foolish like putting the strap on a ball hitch, but please don’t teach your viewers how not to go off-roading.

[@bryanlorang417]

Great vid guys! Respect to the Jeep. Didn't think the little guy would be able to keep up w/ the Bronco.

[@trailboss7504]

Bronco was literally making the way for that little jeep , so offcourse it would be able to keep it lol!

[@mrpw1402]

Vice-Versa

[@bill29456]

I think id add a set of show chains to the emergency kit. Tire socks you tested on the honda also worked pretty well in the snow and easy to put on. All in all i think the lighter jeep did a great job, went every where the Bronco went and pulled it out a few times.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

95% tire 5% vehicle

[@exiledknight3961]

Ground clearance plays a huge factor also

[@craftbuildchill]

Thanks Tommy as a result of all your jeep videos, I bought a 2022 jeep willys 2dr as well. Just waiting for it to arrive. Was abit more expensive here in Canada but looking forward to exploring Canada with it.

[@Ecobeastsoffroad]

I also recommend turning off the advanced traction control. Just pressing the button doesn’t help, you need to hold it down and watch the countdown. After that let it rip, all advanced traction enhancements are turned off and you have 100% man and machine.

[@MarkIrwin02]

Is there an advantage to doing that vs leaving it on in the snow or off roading? I just got a 2014 wrangler unlimited manual.

[@Ecobeastsoffroad]

@@MarkIrwin02 in my opinion yes, sometimes you need wheel spin in snow or you start to lose momentum. For example: going up a slight hill and the back end starts to fishtail a bit, next thing you know the ATC kicks in and brakes a wheel. Then that keeps happening back and forth vs. just letting you power through. Same happens in mud.

[@MarkIrwin02]

@@Ecobeastsoffroad thanks so much. So before when had the corolla rental and got stuck in the snow probably should have turned off the traction control. And will remember this for wirh my wrangler. Which i love so much.

[@neilmurphy845]

Tire's make a big difference and locker's

[@harlandurant7014]

Hmm the jeep did pretty good the BLD seems to be just as good in the high speed running.

[@jlv3x]

Love ramming through deep snow, that's the reason I drive a Jeep. Everyone I know complains when a big snowstorm is coming but I love it because I if I do get a little stuck all I have to do is back up a little bit then power through. ❤️❤️❤️

[@wade7959]

That looked like a ton of fun. Both vehicles are awesome.

[@misael008]

I think mud tires are better in the snow, all tires get packed with snow but with the mud tires it gets out of the lugs easier, the ones on the bronco get super packed and the snow turns to ice and it smooths out and u get less traction.

[@vinuezaer]

Try to avoid pulling a vehicle in reverse. Gears aren't as strong that way. Could be catastrophic.

[@mblake0420]

Only if you put too much power down

[@lunamaria1048]

If a trail is too narrow, you have to do a reverse snatch recovery.... But hey, i'm sure they appreciate you reading off Wikipedia to pass on preachy lessons

[@NigelNaughton]

That's good advice....for people that think you are being "preachy" it's actually called behing helpful. There's lots of videos out there with people pulling in reverse and OOPS!! Things don't go so well. So thanks for the tip for people thinking to do this.

[@lunamaria1048]

@@NigelNaughton Preaching at people is not being helpful.. It's being a narcissist.... TFL members work with vehicles as a profession, on a daily basis, so know what they are doing.. They don't need Wikipedia advice from peanut gallery KZbinrs that don't actually own a 4x4, and just like preaching. Being helpful would be to compliment their hard work, and like the video, then go back to your mom's basement, quietly

[@NigelNaughton]

@@lunamaria1048 Yep. I am back to your mom's basement. she's tired of your preaching not to be preachy ;-)

[@Isha048]

Thank you Guys! It is always funny and great watching dad and son agree with everything and be helpful each other. Many times and in many families, it doesn't work like that... unfortunately! My bad, I didn't understand my dad and he wanted to be only my dad, so there was one demanding and the other one obeying, nothing else. When the latter started to not be so obedient as he was before, conflict! Anyway it's past, it happened what it happened, period.

[@gadgetmantwincities]

What a life, father and son having more fun than humans!😀

[@evoemperor3776]

So what your saying is they are not human?

[@dragongrips8095]

Awesome to see a dad and son having fun like that!

[@naf2579]

That little jeep always impresses at it's price point. Pretty much half the cost of the bronco.

[@Dom2.0]

Just an expensive edition. He could've got a 2 door bronco for 28k.

[@naf2579]

@@Dom2.0 yeah 2 years from now. I'm all blue oval in my house but their delivery delays and greedy dealers good luck. Give me a ring when you find that 2dr for 28k with a v6.

[@Dom2.0]

@@naf2579 Yeah definitely sucks the whole car market has gone crazy with shortages but im starting to see dealerships inventory go up so that's a good sign

[@johnswanson3741]

Just thank every democrat you know for the situation America is in rite now

[@mardamek]

Having a shovel is worth way more than lockers and different drive modes. I'm not an off-roader by any stretch of the imagination, but as a person who has driven mostly 2-wheel drive cars I can assure you that having good winter tires on the car and that shovel in the trunk is way safer and confidence-inspiring than having a car with locking diffs and latest tech. I've done quite a bit of winter driving to have confidence in my opinion (made it through storms and conditions in my car when a lot of people with their expensive SUVs were stuck or perhaps didn't dare driving hard/fast enough to go through).

[@vetrivel1994]

Whenever Andre hosts a off-road show it kind of ruins the vibe of the video, father and son is the best combo for tfloffroad channel

[@taylorsvilletony773]

And I don't remember hearing "DUDE" once in this vid...lol

[@montesamapping]

Really a good video, with real situations may happen to everyone... In 2006 i got stuck with my L200 while passing a pile of snow accumulated by the Snowplow... from that day I always have a snow shovel in each my car!

[@johnswanson3741]

And a tow strap

[@fullspeedfordbronco]

Just an observation, but if anyone purchases a Bronco I would at least opt for one with a rear locker. It seems the BLD system in the Bronco isn’t very good and nowhere close to what the Wrangler or 4Runner has to offer.

[@dpro5321]

pro-tip for the wrangler. since it's a manual, when you got stuck in the snow, just rock it out as it wasn't too deep. just slow-pump the clutch with light throttle and boom. freedoms.

[@timothydillard9507]

Yes indeed, it’s always easier with our fathers clearing the path for us in order to make it up that big hill.

[@antoniog9536]

Father and son making memories, Priceless !! Going 4x4 in the Colorado mountains 2nd to none !!

[@D2500R]

I'd buy the Jeep. I like a simple four wheel drive, less there is less to go wrong and break. It went where the bronco did at half the price.

[@NicknNick99]

And years of engineering behind it that the bronco doesn’t have. Which is why the hard tops don’t leak on a wrangler or have the steering break almost as soon as they are driven off the lot lol.

[@Dom2.0]

He didn't have to buy that expensive edition. 2 door bronco starts at like 28k bro..

[@gdo3510]

@@Dom2.0 where? B/C I’ve been looking as I would love to trade in my Bronco Sport but supply is super limited and 28K doesn’t even sound realistic

[@LMacNeill]

Tommy's Jeep is proof positive that you don't have to spend $60K to have fun off road. I like its old-school simplicity -- manual windows never break, and non-turbo, non-direct-injected engines are always more reliable. Having said that, I still would've opted for lockers front-and-rear, just for the peace of mind. And, yeah, I know -- Roman got stuck even with 2 lockers on the Bronco. I get it. I'm just saying lockers *usually* offer more peace of mind. 🙂

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

That Jeep is a great deal...throw some KO2'S 35" on, and it would.go anywhere

[@tammysimons4916]

Great video of father & son playing in the snow. You guys need to get a Yankum rope for those stuck moments. From what I've seen on recovery videos they work really well with less chance of vehicle damage.

[@aharquail]

Need a Matt's Off Road Recovery kinetic rope!

[@seanm3ify]

Isn’t he going to jail for insurance fraud?

[@aharquail]

@@seanm3ify Maybe the proceeds will help with bail.

[@montechie]

For trying to help his customers out if you read up on it

[@dawnfirephotography]

Just found your guy's channel a couple weeks ago after ordering a Bronco and I'm so glad I did! I've enjoyed every episode. You two make a good team. Keep the videos coming!!

[@dawnfirephotography]

I'm a Colorado native living in Asheville, NC. Coming back this fall to lead a photography workshop outside of Crested Butte. Really hoping I get my Bronco by then!!

[@jamesbeaman6337]

FYI, they have about 5 other channels from trucks to EVs to bikes so there is plenty of content to watch.

[@feedrate1]

Kinetic recovery steps . check them out.

[@GorillaCookies]

I have a 74 Jeep CJ 5 with a 360 AMC V8 , Holley sniper EFI , cam, headers etc, T176 4 speed, Dana 300 T case, Dana 44s front and rear with e lockers , 35s & 4.27 gears and it's never once failed me except in the snow once. Snow's depth can be quite a mystery until it isn't. And going from a couple feet deep to 5 feet deep suddenly does have it's challenges 😜

[@Offshore1977]

You have brake lock differential in the Jeep which works phenomenal. Love that Jeep and these videos

[@Obxhatman]

while you can get away with not having a winch in muddy terrain , you certainly need it in snow or rock crawling sometimes. Once your treads fill with packed snow and the chassis bottoms out , you are done. Does not matter what vehicle you are talking about. Being able to anchor to something that is not on ice or snow , and pull yourself out , makes life so much easier.

[@b5man17]

It would be interesting to see how a true winter tire performs off road vs the three mountain peek tires on the Bronco.

[@99unclebob]

funny i thought the same thing ,the question is are they even available with shortages everywhere

[@foch3]

Winter tires are for the street.

[@99unclebob]

@@Adam_Rosenberg91 do you have proof of your statement i do and can back it up with 30 yrs of use

[@foch3]

@@99unclebob Name the tire?

[@dandahermitseals5582]

That's a couple of worthy rigs. I'm from the bush of Alaska living up in the snow ( currently buried) we are waaay off grid up trails ( key word is up) we climb 1800ft from our first gate at the bottom of our spread to our entry to the cabin gate little over 3/4 Mile ( another half mile up to our pasture) all very challenging with treacherous drops . What town boys call a 4 wheeling adventure we just call a trip to the feed store. Haha) You guys got a lot to learn bout climbing in the snow. I'm 80 and wife is 68 and she works at the hospital down in the valley and commutes daily. Haha. We don't,have any rolling computers. All old school and they just do it. No car payments. Like your son I've got an 87 Comanche Pioneer Metric ton. And a Toyota crawler on 36" Super swamper Roks. Wife has a Geo Tracker and a Tacoma and y'all couldn't follow her home from work. Haha. No pmnts or high tech NSSA technicians required. Good luck My Comanche just has a 4 1/2" lift for ground clearance and tire room. Old school Good luck. Dandahermit

[@DUNEATV]

Surprised you didn’t snap a tie rod or an axle on the Bronco!

[@wdubduece8913]

It's built to handle a lot

[@trailboss7504]

You are joking right these broncos are way tougher we are jumping and testing these broncos in qatar , jeeps doesn't even come near to it I honestly thought jeep gonna blow its engine and frames like they do always but it was a miracle that it didn't !

[@nadirkhan7435]

Breaking axles , Pitman arm , ball joints ? Isn't this a jeep thing

[@SanctumOfDreams]

@@trailboss7504 Very few people have problems with the pentastar and almost nobody has had issues with the 2.0 turbo. The JL is a lot different than what you’re used to with the jk.

[@arizonadirt3622]

Yep, the IFS on the Bronco is absolutely junk. The Jeep JL is bulletproof in comparison. The “Jeep haters” are just mad. The Jeep JL is a remarkable vehicle!

[@stumptownwoodworks]

Kinetic rope..as about 100 other people said lol. And soft shackles. Great video though, really enjoyed it and looked like great fun!

[@dmegahan]

I am becoming less of a fan of snow/ice off roading. It’s just not a test of the cars, but a test of the tires. Even snow tires on a Jeep Compass would probably make it up further than both of these.

[@daveharness70]

I know what you mean.....but a Compass? 🤣

[@dmegahan]

@@daveharness70 I was trying to Name a small crossover that has at least a slight bit of off-road credit. I know I compass is not amazing in anyway but I would like to see that comparison

[@rodgood]

I have an 03 Rubicon 2 d manual and an 18 Rubicon, exactly matching , after comparing them off road (which i buy them for) ,I sold the JL . Hearing all the revving and the wheel hopping brought back bad memories.

[@Nick_Gir]

Nice to see what jeeps do normally. Pull out other inferior vehicles off road.

[@trailboss7504]

Yeah but here it was a superior vehicle ie bronco and jeep itself got stucked , come to qatar you will see jeeps are the one who need most recoveries they Breakdown a lot ! Bronco is way above their standard

[@nadirkhan7435]

Bronco is superior not inferior , there are lot more broncos pulling out jeeps not even close

[@sethgrim]

More Jeep and bronco vids would be awesome. Keep the bronco in the fleet love seeing it off road. Would like to see the Bronco vs Colorado ZR2. I know they’re not the same class since the ZR2 is a truck but who cares, they’re both off roaders.

[@grimreefer5159]

love all the clacking that solid axle wrangler makes when the front wheels start hopping and shaking.

[@shawngray221]

You guys do a great job with camera work and it's always very entertaining. The camera clarity is amazing as well. I have a four door bronco badlands and I'm liking it so far. It's great to see father and son having such great bonding and memories to last a lifetime. My dad isn't around anymore but he had jeeps and scouts and it was interesting growing up with those just wished he could have experience the new bronco. Thanks boys for sharing

[@edwardignatovich9421]

Looks like a blast! But I suggest getting some traction boards, not necessarily maxtraxs but something similar. I do have a set of maxtraxs though. They work so well in snow and sand. They always blows my mind

[@mikebelcher5111]

I agree with you Tommy a 100% you got the best package the Wrangler that they offer that Willie's edition is the sharpest one they've got right now I believe And most economical with the options

[@ramzizaz]

Was up there yesterday in my gx. Thank you for blazing some of the trails. We made it up a bit farther before we kept sliding into trees

[@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea]

Glad to see you guys using these vehicles as they were meant to be used

[@DarinGC]

I can hear that rpm dropping down. Need to hold that gear longer at a higher rpm. Manual shift lock out. Carrys your momentum and when you do hit a section of traction etc the rpm doesn't dip down and will only gain speed.

[@CautiousDavid]

This might be the most fun TFL video I’ve seen yet, awesome snow content with some badass vehicles and just a good time.