Nitro vs Poly Blindfold Challenge - The boys get their science on!

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@catface101
@catface101 6 жыл бұрын
Chappers can even hear the tree that falls in the forest when no one else is around.
@rhythmace22
@rhythmace22 6 жыл бұрын
I like nitro bc it’ll wear over time not because of any kind of tone
@joshedwards7012
@joshedwards7012 6 жыл бұрын
This, my favourite guitar atm (murder me if you will) is my Yamaha EG012, literally my first electric, the neck just has something magical about it being unfinished and with an electronics change it sounds amazing! I just wish it would wear faster, but it doesn't cos its body is poly finished... I've still played it enough to get the start of some decent buckle rash on the back though!
@rhythmace22
@rhythmace22 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Edwards Maybe try a nitro refin
@rhythmace22
@rhythmace22 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Edwards cool guitar though I wish my favorite guitar had a nitro finish too (Fender Deluxe Player Strat)
@schminker0278
@schminker0278 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a 30 year old Japanese strat copy with a poly finish, that still looks almost as good as new. You'll be waiting a hundred years or more for that to wear through. Maybe you should try a nitro refin if that's what you're after. It also smells better.
@joerobinson6199
@joerobinson6199 6 жыл бұрын
Schminker exactly I have a 30 yr old American standard Strat. Brand new.
@slowbend4390
@slowbend4390 5 жыл бұрын
The way i got it from a guitar tech: When poly was new, people applied it like nitro before. The result was a very thick finish that didn't sound as good as a nitro finish. But after a short time they realized if applied careful, a thin poly finish sounded as good as a nitro finish. Fast forward until today. Nitro today, because of environmental laws and stuff, is different from the old nitro. It will not crack or age as easily but is also less toxic. (Some nitro finishes today will not crack or get yellow at all, the warnings labels are just marketing.) So poly has a bad image from the transition time but isn't bad. And nitro today does not sound like "back then". It feels different and since nitro changes it can sound different. But better or worse is in fact a matter of every guitar. (And a matter of skillfully applied or not, like with poly "back then".)
@theconsortion2037
@theconsortion2037 5 жыл бұрын
I refinish guitars and I can tell you: whatever they put on Gibson usa's, it's not nitro. They say it is though...
@stricknine8623
@stricknine8623 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but I have to comment about polyurethane. I have built and finished custom cabinets and furniture for about 35 years. Polyurethane has ALWAYS been a better, more durable finish than ANY laquer finish. You can get into preferences and even tone but it is an absolute, objective fact that polyurethane is a tangibly better finish.
@simbadlemarin1815
@simbadlemarin1815 Жыл бұрын
@@stricknine8623 right, compare a plywood box that holds my plates and glasses and whatever, to the wooden beauty that I hold in my hands for hours each day and literally have emotional responses to some the sounds I'm able to produce on it.
@stricknine8623
@stricknine8623 Жыл бұрын
@@simbadlemarin1815 I'm not comparing cabinets and furniture with a guitar. I only cited my experience with cabinets and furniture because it deals with wood and wood finishing and as to inform those who don't know any better that polyurethane is in fact a better finish than lacquer in every aspect of the job and purpose that a wood finish serves. Tangibly, that is. Preferences may still vary. Also,..custom cabinetry and furniture involves the repeated use of solid lumber. Cabinet doors and faceplates are solid lumber in most cases. In the Gun cases that I build,..solid oak, maple, basswood, popular,...ect., are all used. Also,...staining, sealing and finishing is the same process regardless of whether you are dealing with the veneer skin of plywood or solid lumber.
@didamnesia3575
@didamnesia3575 5 ай бұрын
The warning labels are not for marketing kiddo. Keep your conspiracy theories to yourself since your GED doesn't match up
@georgieboy1536
@georgieboy1536 6 жыл бұрын
Anderson's 2018- pg era. No swearing. No rudeness Anderson's 2019- 0:21
@ivanbrasla
@ivanbrasla 6 жыл бұрын
8:25
@kimseniorb
@kimseniorb 6 жыл бұрын
Georgie boy lol
@LandofKon
@LandofKon 6 жыл бұрын
Coming from 3 grown men that just shared a hotel room 2 weeks ago
@didienshairwan9026
@didienshairwan9026 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@modelcitizen1977
@modelcitizen1977 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see one where the hand him the same guitar 10 times in a row.
@GMec78
@GMec78 5 жыл бұрын
Lee, Rob and the rest of the Anderton's crew provide a great service to the guitar playing community in a fun, interesting and humble way. Thanks guys.
@MLeins-bk1qd
@MLeins-bk1qd 6 жыл бұрын
Its the difference in feel, not in sound, what makes nitro more special.
@Masterfighterx
@Masterfighterx 6 жыл бұрын
And overtime or if you do something, looks
@mattwalder1931
@mattwalder1931 6 жыл бұрын
100% agree , regardless of the science behind I know which I like the feel of the best by a mile (nitro) . Each to their own though
@TP-xe2hi
@TP-xe2hi 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Poly should be more durable in terms of staying the same color in the long hall.
@400_billion_suns
@400_billion_suns 5 жыл бұрын
I must be either weird or not drinking the right kool aid, but I prefer the feel of poly. I was choosing between buying a new American Pro strat (satin poly neck) and a gold Original 50's for the exact same price (50's was on sale). Even though the allure of lacquer and vintage pickups made it a hard decision, I hated the feel of the nitro neck on that thing. So sticky you could hardly move your hand across it without taking almost all the pressure off first. The poly neck on the Pro with the satin finish glides like Teflon. Left with the full price American Pro and the gold Original 50s stayed hanging on the wall at $450 off retail.
@SohamBhattacharya3105
@SohamBhattacharya3105 5 жыл бұрын
@@400_billion_suns what you felt there was the difference between a lacquered and a satin finish, not the difference between poly and nitro. A lacquered poly neck would feel just as sticky.
@PD-pw4wd
@PD-pw4wd 6 жыл бұрын
The "Nitro" guitar in the link has "Body Finish: Polyester" in specs
@solsticelacer
@solsticelacer 5 жыл бұрын
More to the point it also says "neck finish: gloss urethane"...
@Zetamen7
@Zetamen7 6 жыл бұрын
Get Billy Corgan in there, start that T O N E P A I N T debate
@acarlovonsexron1994
@acarlovonsexron1994 6 жыл бұрын
No BS, he did apparently get tested as a kid for something like musical aptitude and frequency distinction/cognizance, and he scored off the charts, like to savant level, so he might literally be hearing things we can't hear.
@Zetamen7
@Zetamen7 6 жыл бұрын
@@acarlovonsexron1994 Well, I knew Billy was some kind of musical beast, but that really takes it to another level of awesome
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 5 жыл бұрын
@@acarlovonsexron1994 Interesting... There are a LOT of minute variations in sounds that can be detected with computers, tiny tiny stuff that you'd never expect a human to hear, but I guess at the end of the Bell curve there can be people like that. =/
@joshmuz9018
@joshmuz9018 5 жыл бұрын
Carlo Von Sexron yet he sings like a dying cat.......
@davidwile1277
@davidwile1277 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was tested and had best score in the state...they thought it might of been a mistake..so they tested him again and he scored higher...school called his dad and said Billy needs to be put into a school for musicians and his dad said fuck that
@GMec78
@GMec78 2 жыл бұрын
So been a few years and I would say that Rob did this more from feel than from sound. I’ve taken a poly fender, completely stripped it down to bare wood and refinished it in nitro, it lost a quarter of a pound, felt like a different guitar but didn’t sound any different. I suspect that if they did this again with a third party playing and the two guessers just listening the result might change.
@xanderraymondcharles
@xanderraymondcharles 6 жыл бұрын
NERD LEVEL 1 MILLION
@xanderraymondcharles
@xanderraymondcharles 6 жыл бұрын
haha true. Oh well Im still entertained@@chrisbistrishki
@FernandoAMorales
@FernandoAMorales 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should have had the non-playing guitarist audibly guess the finish treatment. Touching it alone gives away the finish. Otherwise, why plug them in?
@markntexas8265
@markntexas8265 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly because nothing materially changes how the electoral/magnetic field of the pickups. A professional musician might and I mean might hear the difference in the sounds but Rob is talking about is more resonance in the poly which is the opposite of what people say.
@RobCmusic
@RobCmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Chappers got it right due to how they feel and then memorised whereabouts the guitars came from when Lee was playing them. I was hoping Pete would shuffle them around on the stands throughout.
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 6 жыл бұрын
Ok so now it’s “tone finish” not tonewood?! Oh boy... Down the rabbit hole we go. 😨
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 5 жыл бұрын
Remember to get the right tone paint to go with your tonewood and tone finish, and don't forget your tone tuners, tone tone/volume control knobs, and tone hat for the blade switch.
@c.kirchhoefer
@c.kirchhoefer 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to wear a special tone shirt as the guitar reverberates itself through your apparel during play
@casperes0912
@casperes0912 5 жыл бұрын
C K Doesn’t matter anyway, cause only Rob can tell the difference
@Spencerburner
@Spencerburner 4 жыл бұрын
I like to use a tweed tone™ strap on all my guitars as well
@thejoshbtv
@thejoshbtv 6 жыл бұрын
It is legit impressive how Rob nails all of the blindfold things. Almost borderline creepy that he does it every time.
@cleavey100
@cleavey100 6 жыл бұрын
Surely the smell would give it away???
@Jakeman90210
@Jakeman90210 6 жыл бұрын
You would have to be real up close to tell on a fender. On a Gibson you can tell immediately because somehow they always smell really strong
@thephotoyak
@thephotoyak 6 жыл бұрын
Gibsons only smell strong new. They keep it awhile if you store in the case. Leave it long enough and it doesn't really smell.
@MrThecampinggod
@MrThecampinggod 6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a video of a tour of the Gibson factory and they said something to the extent that they mix vanilla in with the lacquer to make spraying the instruments more pleasant.
@cmkimbrell67
@cmkimbrell67 5 жыл бұрын
No. Perhaps you are thinking of the Gibsons that smell like the polish they use in the factory. Fenders don't have a strong-smelling polish like that.
@idonthateit
@idonthateit 5 жыл бұрын
Chase Kimbrell I had a nitro finished Fender and it def smelled like candy. Gibsons have a sweet smell too.
@evilnudibranch
@evilnudibranch 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite lacquer is Poly's cellulite.
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha. Made from McDonald's fed beef
@Bouillestfu
@Bouillestfu 6 жыл бұрын
I like to "blinfold along" and I too heard a subtle brightness in the poly. Would that necessarily translate to a "better" guitar? No. Still cool that there is a discernible difference. In a shop trying both out I probably wouldn't catch on but with both guitars in isolation it was clear. People often forget, on electric guitars, that although it's a simple case of a string vibrating over a magnet the vibration of the string is influenced subtly or greatly by whatever it may be vibrating with or is held by.
@khronscave
@khronscave 5 жыл бұрын
... Although that's disregarding all other possible variables - pickup tolerances / varieties, *setup differences* (pickup height etc), and so on.
@simmonphoenix3206
@simmonphoenix3206 6 жыл бұрын
I love mixing with my frequency analyzer. You can really see if something is peaking when you are playing your whole mix. Some times a track will song fine solo and then you layer it and the frequencies get amplified or cutoff unexpectedly and peak through the mix.
@sjaakvanvliet838
@sjaakvanvliet838 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a late 80s Burny super grade les paul. And i have no idea if this is this has poly or nitro finish. From what i could find on internet is that some of these guitars have poly and some nitro. I don't know the exact model and there is no serie number on the back of the headstock. Does somebody know how i can spot the differance between these finshes?
@gefenguitars
@gefenguitars Жыл бұрын
It's like saying that Sunburst sounds warmer, these are different models with different production and different parts, so of course they will sound different
@teleguy2650
@teleguy2650 6 жыл бұрын
I think this video was meant to be released on April 1.
@BradPham
@BradPham 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you did the sound frequency graph at the end. Yes, the nitro finish (done properly) gives a more even frequency response. This makes the guitar sound, and feel, more "natural".
@ithemba
@ithemba 6 жыл бұрын
something I am seriously wondering: y'all tonewood wizards here, how comes that you insist on the impact of resonance of wood and even lacquer, but NOT pickguards? would not the material of the pickguard be far more important to the "absorbance" of frequencies than lacquer, since the surface directly beneath the strings is covered in it? Like... with the strings so close to the surface, that is literally the only surface the soundwaves are ever even capable of reaching and being reflected by it or absorbed by it. So... should not be the most neglected and probably cheapest part on any pickguard-fitted ST or T style guitar have a far greater influence than lacquer or even wood?
@ChristopherRMoore
@ChristopherRMoore 6 жыл бұрын
don't give them ideas
@VMinoda
@VMinoda 6 жыл бұрын
man, I had this exact question for one of those tonewood wizards, and he laughed at it and said it was a stupid idea. Well, what do I know... The funniest thing was that I was not even arguing with him, but was rather asking him to give any proof of what he was saying and he failed miserably. Called himself an engineer, lol.
@guydude6546
@guydude6546 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't put it past them, i once met a guy who swore that the neck radius affects tone! Said that the more curved a radius was, the more "punch" it had tone wise, whatever that's even supposed to mean!
@sonicsega1699
@sonicsega1699 6 жыл бұрын
Now they're gonna blindfold pickguards vs no pg and tell us which sounds brighter
@6Madmonk6
@6Madmonk6 6 жыл бұрын
a man by the name of Johan Segeborn can test this out
@Ineedahandle75
@Ineedahandle75 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe the type of finish makes any difference whatsoever. What makes the difference is how it's been applied.
@stevieboy444
@stevieboy444 6 жыл бұрын
Credit where it's due. Rob's bloody superb on guitar based blindfold challenges.
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 6 жыл бұрын
I don't care about tonewood or lacquer but these two sound 100% brighter than sunburst two. Just make sure your monitoring doesn't compensate sharpness with bottom end. Use very bright and thin sounding monitors/headphones or phone speaker with pronunced upper mid range. Or cut everything bellow 800 on EQ on your audio interface. My Adam A7x, Alesis, Neumann KH120, Dynaudio Lyd7 moniotrs and senheisser HD800. All of them show that those two are sharper.
@mdtrx
@mdtrx 6 жыл бұрын
Same. I can't tell what makes the difference, but I can definitely hear it. (planar headphones, ar-h1 and objective2 dac-amp),
@DChrls
@DChrls 6 жыл бұрын
Same sound difference here through my Beyerdynamics A20, Emotiva Big Ego and Beyerdynamics Amiron Home phones. Although less of a difference to my old ears in the freq. comparison at the end. Being the nitro is over a poly base I wonder if it's just the extra layers of paint that makes the difference. When I build a guitar I use nitro because it's easier to use and repair. Neck to body fit is important to me when assembling a guitar. I find it has an impact on sustain.
@aliensporebomb
@aliensporebomb 4 ай бұрын
One other possibility: poly smells different? Not just the tonal difference (which seems rounder and more warm, the poly seems more hi-fi and clear). Now you COULD roll the tone down on a poly guitar to approximate the tone.
@TheWall2677
@TheWall2677 5 жыл бұрын
Just want to highlight an error for that video ... There's indeed a nitrocellulose finish on sunburst ones but the regular classic 50's use gloss urethane on the neck and polyester for the body not polyurethane.
@secretsquirrel2
@secretsquirrel2 6 жыл бұрын
Did you guys ever do a Cheap Amp+Expensive Cab vs Cheap Cab+Expensive amp test? Set a budget and see what works best.
@ianmbaker
@ianmbaker 6 жыл бұрын
The guitars have different models of pickup. No wonder they sound different. :)
@cmcald0
@cmcald0 4 жыл бұрын
Different frets too, medium jumbo and vintage , specs for sunburst say gloss urethane and poly as well
@CosmicHippopotamus
@CosmicHippopotamus 4 жыл бұрын
@@cmcald0 he's going mostly on feel. He said that in the video. I think most people prefer the feel of nitro in the hand over poly, though both can feel great.
@lathspell87
@lathspell87 4 жыл бұрын
Chappers' ear for music is fantastic. This should go to show those who claim other's can't hear the difference are wrong. I guess this is why some people say only the pickup matters where other can tell the difference in the body wood, finish type, or fretboard wood.
@bjornhoogeveen4519
@bjornhoogeveen4519 6 жыл бұрын
Every single time i get totally blown away by rob’s abillity to feel/hear the right answer
@willmurphy6996
@willmurphy6996 3 жыл бұрын
but he doesn't always get it right. prob 80% though.
@darrenbatty7090
@darrenbatty7090 5 жыл бұрын
I have the fiesta red variant of this and it plays like a dream. First Fender I’ve owned :)
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 2 жыл бұрын
How a guitar sounds and how it "feels" are two different things completely. I agree with Slow Bend and Fernando Morales comments from 3, L o n g years ago.
@cairesy
@cairesy 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, clearly, you gotta have that sweet sweet tone lacquer!
@waynebridger4998
@waynebridger4998 6 жыл бұрын
I spotted the tonality of the different finishes, so to all you that are saying its bs, it's not. But I do appreciate that everyone hears different things in music.
@GibusGang
@GibusGang Жыл бұрын
Obviously the trem bars are completely different on the two different models. Thats why rob used them. It had nothing to do with tone. He just hates losing. Happy christmas to you.
@FrankThaThird
@FrankThaThird 6 жыл бұрын
Rob’s said multiple times in the past he can literally smell the nitro, yet nothing was done to inhibit that.
@chrisegonmusic
@chrisegonmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be able to tell by the smell. It's strikingly different.
@guyfromnj
@guyfromnj 6 жыл бұрын
Rob is a goddamn Jedi master. I've said it before and now I've said it again. The man is a wizard.
@lind3223
@lind3223 5 жыл бұрын
Nitro and Poly sound basically identical, the just feel different. It’s kind of the same thing as with rosewood vs maple fretboards (they sound a little different, but the difference is minimal)
@coledraper5694
@coledraper5694 6 жыл бұрын
I usually can't tell the difference in these, but when Lee switched from his last nitro to his first poly I definitely felt like it smacked me in the face with brightness
@frossbog
@frossbog Жыл бұрын
If you'll notice he was playing slightly closer to the bridge on the poly guitar. Think that has an effect?
@geoffwhitemusic
@geoffwhitemusic 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Highway One Strat from 2003. They had a great nitro finish that just sounds better. I tried several Strats, and the Highway Ones were just more sonorous. Wish they’d bring back that model.
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 4 жыл бұрын
WIth Neil Peart on Drums, Axl on Vocals and Jimmy on the strat, would there be a difference live cranked through a 100 watt jmp on 11 in front of 50,000 people?
@benlogan430
@benlogan430 5 жыл бұрын
The poly does sound slightly brighter just as Chappers said. It’s very subtle though. I like em for sound, feel and aging qualities! I prefer the satin finish best of all!
@ScottJamesHicks
@ScottJamesHicks 6 жыл бұрын
As that famous adult entertainer once said, “It all softens with age.”
@sayantanutbe
@sayantanutbe 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Missed you guys.
@PTS74
@PTS74 2 жыл бұрын
Brighter/darker... yeah, they're different strats! No two guitars will sound 100% the same, regardless of the paint used.
@chrishamm60
@chrishamm60 6 жыл бұрын
I am blown away but I can hear the snappiness of the poly. Pretty wild.
@tomriley_bike
@tomriley_bike 6 жыл бұрын
That noise Pete made at 4:18 killed me
@prc7232
@prc7232 6 жыл бұрын
But on the site, the classic player (sunburst one) have poly finish on the body and urethane on the neck, not nitro...
@gavinmiller17
@gavinmiller17 6 жыл бұрын
Trying it with a poly guitar with rosewood neck and a nitro guitar with maple would be interesting as that lends itself to a warmer sound.
@gr328
@gr328 6 жыл бұрын
They should have chosen based on each others playing ;) Chappers knew!
@stanislavmigra
@stanislavmigra 6 жыл бұрын
Rob did ;)
@gr328
@gr328 6 жыл бұрын
Yes - immediately!
@MrScrofulous
@MrScrofulous 6 жыл бұрын
Regardless of any other considerations, it's clear that Rob's move to fingers has done really cool things to his playing. Also, the nitro guitars sounded way nicer......warmer, and clearer.
@HylianCheshire
@HylianCheshire 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I get one of those life size Danish Pete tuners?
@edwardjons8684
@edwardjons8684 6 жыл бұрын
Love this. Chappers supernatural powers again. Can you do another where you compare the effect of different material tone knobs on tone. Or the effect of hair dye? Maybe near the beginning of April...?
@wiseguy9202
@wiseguy9202 4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely feel the difference between poly and nitro. I've always preferred the feel of the nitro guitars hence my love for Gibson. Wish other brands would offer more nitro. Let's be honest, the pickups made the sound difference here not the finish.
@moviesuae
@moviesuae 6 жыл бұрын
I've noticed Chappers has been playing sans plectrum of late and doing more finger picking which is a nice change of pace.
@RisikoAO
@RisikoAO 6 жыл бұрын
I get the different feeling on the neck, but soundwise how can you know that is some slight variation in the pickup, wood, building or just human variation in picking? The only scientific experiment would be to find a way to exclude every possible factor to isolate the finish, but that's impossible because no instruments is the same exact copy of an other one.
@lordporcupine8767
@lordporcupine8767 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm trying to work this out, please help as I'm yet to be convinced. The fret board, the bridge, the nut, and the tuners are the only items on a guitar that touch the strings. Assuming that the nut, the tuners and bridges are made of the same material at the same density then the only thing that is different is the material where the string is fretted...including the fret material itself. So if Nitro has a different feel, surely that is because the way the materials bonds is different therefore if it feels different to the human hand it would surely be interact differently with the string. Having said all that the biggest variables are in signal pathway through the pickups, pots, jack, cable and so on so in short the difference would be so small, unless you're a virtuoso guitarist taking extra care to fret correctly on every note would have a bigger difference.
@thomasraven
@thomasraven 6 жыл бұрын
Anderton's Customer: Do you have any Mexican strats without scratches all around the output jacks? Anderton's Clerk: Nope. But we'll give you a blindfold with every purchase so you won't notice the scratches.
@goodknight37
@goodknight37 5 жыл бұрын
Poly does have a thick plastic feel compared to nitrocellulose.
@lumberrivermusicrobertbyrd9160
@lumberrivermusicrobertbyrd9160 Жыл бұрын
A true test should include only one variable to be tested and everything else identical. You would need to play the nitro and record it. Then strip the nitro and finish it in poly (same thickness). Then reassemble and record. I tend to believe subtle differences can be contributed to more than one variable and the rest comes down to perceived tone and feel.
@johngame2119
@johngame2119 6 жыл бұрын
I have a baja telecaster which I love and have no intention of ever selling. Bought at andertons a few years back. How much would it cost to have the laquer taken off and replaced with nitro aux natural?
@baldbearded9601
@baldbearded9601 6 жыл бұрын
I though : this is a serious stretch... then Rob nailed it. Mind blown... and again on Lee's run... what the heck is wrong with that guy?
@baldbearded9601
@baldbearded9601 6 жыл бұрын
@Nomad The fact that he was actually able to notice a difference in the 2k frequency (2350) as shown at the end...proves that he technically didn't have to feel the guitar to know it.. it was by sound. And again when he figured which guitars Lee was playing. Either the whole thing is a set up.. or either he is just that good! Rob is usually legit in his tests.
@hansolo1345
@hansolo1345 4 жыл бұрын
the Nitro wasn't only less peaky in 2.3k but also lower 85-90hz where poly was more 100hz, this is more the reason for the warmth
@frossbog
@frossbog Жыл бұрын
There isn't enough variable control in this test to make any scientifically verifiable conclusion.
@thebuddybud
@thebuddybud 6 жыл бұрын
What amps were they plugged into?? Capt Lee went into a Fender amp?? And Rob went into some sort of Laney model?
@batmandeltaforce
@batmandeltaforce 6 жыл бұрын
The experiment you guys need to do is by mount pups on the back of guitars, close to a stationary ferrous metal, so you can ONLY hear the tone of the wood without interference of the strings:)
@chedhead3278
@chedhead3278 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thought I could hear the same difference you highlighted. Are you sure the pickups are the same? The Fender website describes the pickups as 'Vintage-Style Single-Coil Strat®' on the vanilla version and 'American Vintage Single-Coil Strat®' on the laquer version. No left handers though, that I can see. Bother. :(
@greenbrightly
@greenbrightly 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not just one thing, like a nitro finish, it’s all the elements together that contribute to the final thing. I prefer a nitro finish because I want the guitar to age and wear in, just for the look and feel.
@Mightydougthompson
@Mightydougthompson 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought that green MIM strat yesterday. Great value. My first maple fretboard guitar.
@izsalamander7404
@izsalamander7404 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they can feel the guitar…
@chrishuntguitar7997
@chrishuntguitar7997 6 жыл бұрын
@robchapman @rebea If you drag the scale numbers to left of logic's eq you can pull it up so you see more of the eq analysis
@qjenks3544
@qjenks3544 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people might not like his playing, but everyone can admit my main man rob really knows his shit
@j.rozman7016
@j.rozman7016 6 жыл бұрын
Guys...do I have to buy you a guitar cable with Neutrik silent connector?? :)
@SalisburySimon
@SalisburySimon 6 жыл бұрын
yes please
@TeleCathster
@TeleCathster 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Rozmanassa no I don’t think so. That’s why they’re using the tuner to mute when they unplug guitars.
@j.rozman7016
@j.rozman7016 6 жыл бұрын
@@TeleCathster listen&watch again..loud pops when Pete changes guitars..I have Neutrik silent connector on my cable and never looked back :)
@TeleCathster
@TeleCathster 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Rozmanassa yes I heard the pops that’s why I don’t think it’s a silent neutrik. They’d forgotten to hit the tuner mute.
@j.rozman7016
@j.rozman7016 6 жыл бұрын
@@TeleCathster With silent Neutrik connectors you dont need to mute when un/plugging :)
@thomaswilkinson6101
@thomaswilkinson6101 Жыл бұрын
Gonna get demonetised with those kind of thrusts.
@mikegomez3823
@mikegomez3823 6 жыл бұрын
Love this Idea. I love both finishes. like anything else, It just feels like a different guitar, and makes me play in a different way. There's nothing wrong with either
@wonderpope
@wonderpope 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....Not sure if they did a mistake in the description or mis-linked the guitars, but it says on the linked websites, that the sunburst one is poly. The surf green one has the vintage radius on the fretboard, so I assume it has also the nitro finish (didn't find that info on the website). If that's true...everything is exactly the other way round...and if they did it on purpose....it would be awesome trolling :D
@simonmorris6286
@simonmorris6286 6 жыл бұрын
I think you guys should do a Richlite Vs. ebony fingerboard challenge. Feel and tone. I have both at home and I'll be damned if I know what everyone is complaining. Great video by the way.
@tituschalk
@tituschalk 6 жыл бұрын
Surprised Chappers didn't dive in and have a smell straight away. Surely a giveaway!
@albertorivera7937
@albertorivera7937 6 жыл бұрын
As a Spanish language teacher, I approve. 👍🏼
@fossilmatic
@fossilmatic 6 жыл бұрын
The big difference in tone for me was between the two players, and I only thought one of them sounded warm" and pleasant, with more sustain, smoother attack and more fullness.
@bunnys1980
@bunnys1980 6 жыл бұрын
I woul surely prefer the action of the strings would be just a little higher so we wont hear all the snaping on the frets when they are frasing
@whatisthis__95
@whatisthis__95 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. The only thing Rob got wrong is that nitro is actually harder than poly. It’s harder but more fragile, like glass or stone. Poly is softer, thus can absorb hits better. Hide glue is also preferred over regular wood glue for that same reason, it hardens to a harder state than the other, giving a better resonance
@zachpeterson1911
@zachpeterson1911 6 жыл бұрын
Does Rob ever get a blindfold challenge completely wrong? Would love to see you guys review the FRX FLOYD ROSE that basically sits where a tune-o-magic once was
@shootfromthehipband
@shootfromthehipband 6 жыл бұрын
Guys ,lacquer will change as the wood dries out over years ,which imo is one of the biggest advantages .Poly will stay the same it’s not going to sweeten after years ,it will sound like the day you bought it ...
@alessandroc.6876
@alessandroc.6876 6 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@IPushHard
@IPushHard 6 жыл бұрын
I could hear a very tiny difference but DAM Rob has amazing sonic abilities. Very very impressive!
@ithemba
@ithemba 6 жыл бұрын
its not about hearing as much as feeling and even smelling. its not that hard to feel the difference while holding a guitar in your own hands, since most poly lacquers are cheaper and feel quite thick while nitro has a far more "woody", some say textile, feel to it.
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 6 жыл бұрын
One feels like a layer of plastic while the other is more like a tung oil etc.. Finish in feel.
@tonybowen455
@tonybowen455 6 жыл бұрын
Hearing it over YT is tough. I can hear a pretty big difference in these, but I'd have to concentrate to get it right. I doubt I could do it if they played with a band or over a track. I think more people would get it right live. I always have a different experience when I go from YT research to trying stuff out myself live. One example is the new and old mexican strats. The new ones sound great to me on YT, but I didn't like them in person.
@IPushHard
@IPushHard 6 жыл бұрын
Yea... And?I have a Gibson...and I'm not confused or asking a question. So not sure what your point is.
@wilhelmtheconquerer6214
@wilhelmtheconquerer6214 5 жыл бұрын
I guess that chappers absolutely unnatural ability to differentiate between various guitars comes down to 2 major things: 1 he have played guitar more than most of us (unless you're Cliff "I practice for 8 hours a day" Burton 2.0) 2 he have played so many different brands, models and price ranges of guitar that he have developed a special sense nuances in smell, feel and sound
@shaunm1983
@shaunm1983 6 жыл бұрын
They are totally taking the piss with this one
@wojciechorczyk8399
@wojciechorczyk8399 2 жыл бұрын
Now it's time to test the piano lacquer
@wojciechorczyk8399
@wojciechorczyk8399 2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful test: evaluate the sound of a painted nitro or polyurethane plank, probably even Mozart would be lost.
@ERWebster
@ERWebster 6 жыл бұрын
Even as internet debates go, this one is crazy polarizing. I can practically see some of these commenters screaming at their monitor as they type, lol.
@richardshank7659
@richardshank7659 5 жыл бұрын
i did hear a different tone. nitro was definetley alot softer sounding maybe more mellow or more deep if you will. poly had a bright almost plinky sound. not that poly gave it a bad sound at all but there was a difference.
@jasondeli
@jasondeli 6 жыл бұрын
Can we please get an epi of the Captain meets Diane ponzio, love to see an update from her, Missed her being at namm
@thomasnutter
@thomasnutter 5 жыл бұрын
This needs doing again with nose plugs as we all know chapters can smell the nitro
@andyoc
@andyoc 6 жыл бұрын
What about temperature, would nitro feel warmer?
@jgodin312
@jgodin312 6 жыл бұрын
have you done Ash vs. Alder strats?
@MrTelemath
@MrTelemath 6 жыл бұрын
Should use the same neck finish, and only have the body finish vary to get a real comparison.
@mts982
@mts982 6 жыл бұрын
would where the tone knob is at have any difference?
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