Andor Episode 5 Breakdown

[@StarWarsTheory]

What did you like about tonight's episode? What do you want to see next week for Andor Episode 6?

[@felicitys3621]

I can’t wait to see the heist, dinner party, and Dedra’s meeting with Syril. Honestly I can’t wait to see Saw but he’s probably gonna be in the next arc or so

[@meetsintaverns5330]

Honestly, I think it's excellent. I love the slow burn, the exposition. Obviously, when the episode ends and there's another week until we can watch the next, it sucks! - but it's of such a general high quality I think looking back on it (and for those who watch it all at once) there's such good world building that we're going to be really greatful for this live action lore in the beginnings of the rebellion.

[@konmoe121]

I let myself be surprised. No expectations.

[@Raz2000]

If building exposition is making the audience bored then that's bad storytelling. Still, there's lots to like

[@ajaytwins914]

they say guns because they are ak 47s lol in star wars

[@Bluemudphoenix]

I have literally no issue with the pace of this show. It’s amazing to build up the characters this way and still be engaging the whole time. I’m all in.

[@Keverember]

100%

[@Itachiflameamaterasu]

Same, love the pace actually, its quite engaging and not boring like some people think.

[@jasonstuart3209]

exactly it actually makes it more real, although ep 5 was a bit of a teaser without them starting the mission it was good for suspense, got me looking forward to next week

[@djrebeld]

100%, this is about story telling, characters, motives etc. it’s not going for the quick gun fights, as too much of this does not make a story. Their quick easy tricks that add nothing and are forgettable. The pace is perfect!!! This is what I want star wars to be. Real sets/locations mixed with new tech. I rate Andor highly!!!

[@LiKeMiKe103]

Yeah anyone complaining about the pace or the dialogue being "dragged out" just has a short attention span and want to see only action. This aint the show for them.

[@hyprwav4153]

This show is building its tower brick by brick. As opposed to all others who rush in to rely on Easter eggs and fail to make a lasting impression

[@artyom5659]

We don’t want to listen to boring characters. We want Vader, the senate, action and non political plot. But instead we get boring episode. I don’t understand what there talking about and it’s also to violent for me. I like action but I don’t like violence action

[@Kimberly-hb1om]

Agreed!

[@AHomelessDorito]

If they want to go this painfully slow they need to start releasing more than 1 episode a week. More people would be enjoying the slow burn

[@saltywinchester1600]

I am 49 years old and I have NEVER seen a show which was so boring in 5 episodes in my whole life. The recipe for a show should be to start with a bang so that the viewers will watch the next episodes, but in Andor from the 1st episode to the 5th, absolutely NOTHING happend. You can't do that as a showrunner. Nobody with a functional brain cell is invested in this show. Nothing interesting is happening in this show so far and IF something is happening later, it is much too late. I watched the original trilogy countless of times, because the movies were NEVER boring, they were magical, but this show... it's even too much to watch it one time. There is absolutely nothing in it what made Star Wars great. This is NOT Star Wars. It's a boring story, with a boring protagonist and they just slapped Star Wars on it. Nothing magical about it. It even doesn't feel like Star Wars and people who like this show and claim that they are Star Wars FANS, are either lying to themselves or they are blind. The editing is horrendous, the music is forgettable, the story so far is mediocre... Just doesn't feel like Star Wars.

[@mats8522]

@@artyom5659 The worst take I've seen in my entire life, omg

[@hyprwav4153]

Man I like this show. It definitely grew on me. I so so wish this much attention to detail and care went into ALL Star Wars shows

[@angelah7256]

Yes! The original trilogy literally is full of dialogue and can feel slow at times. But that's what makes it great because it makes you fall in love with the characters and what they stand for.

[@hyprwav4153]

@@angelah7256 exactlyyy! I want chills, thrills and spills as much as the next guy but if you don’t give the time for me to care about the lives involved then what’s the point yknow ?

[@Xx_Draxxo_xX]

I personally love the slow pacing of the show. It’s a show after all, not a movie, they can afford to take things slow, develop the story over time, and throw in some scenes that might not add much but are still enjoyable. To me, I much prefer this slow pace, with beautiful establishing shots and great cinematography, versus a fast paced show that has more action which is nice but doesn’t build the story as organically.

[@0Tyson0]

the proper direction and camera work are a huge plus for me, i believe its the team that did the crown, and it shows. the production is absolutely amazing

[@draconianemanations2785]

Breaking Bad has been described as slow, but exceptional. The first episode grabbed people, the second episode continued to grab. This "slow burner" for Andor line is an excuse for a crap show imho.

[@Xx_Draxxo_xX]

@@draconianemanations2785 what

[@draconianemanations2785]

@@Xx_Draxxo_xX Andor is crap. People keep saying it is slow but good. Breaking Bad WAS slow but good. This.. isn't good. This is just slow. Breaking Bad illustrates the difference, because it was both.

[@draconianemanations2785]

@@Xx_Draxxo_xX btw, edited to clarify the last sentence refers specifically to Andor, for anyone else who might be confused. I'm saying Andor sucks, it's slowness is not a selling point in itself, and it has nothing to make up for the slowness, unlike OTHER genuinely good shows that move slow, like Breaking Bad.

[@macwelch8599]

Imagine how awesome the Kenobi show would’ve been if the Andor people was in charge

[@protalghulnist4126]

Two different stories though, just because a team is good at telling one type of story does not mean they'd be good at telling all types of stories

[@Uncivil_Dreams]

if they made the kenobi show, he probably wouldnt even have left tattooine yet by episode 5 out of 6😂

[@sotirisalex2452]

You mean dave filoni

[@protalghulnist4126]

@@sotirisalex2452 he didn't make this show so no

[@saltywinchester1600]

Imagine how awesome the Kenobi show would've been if LUCAS was in charge.

[@picktrees4206]

not sure why people dont understand pacing in a show, not every episode will be a huge battle or have major reveals, it's about building up, understanding the characters and why they're where they are now, and showing day to day activities that need to happen to explain the show. Im love how Andor is playing out and hope for more like it

[@bangerxshane]

It's not that people don't 'understand', people aren't that stupid, they just don't like it. And if the payoff isn't handled well then the ones who like it now will end up disliking it as well. Some just wanna wait till it's all out to see how that pans out.

[@huesoftheheart139]

@@bangerxshane I’m one of the ones that love the show, and it’s so good that I’m attached to the story not the payoff. I don’t get the mentality of people obsessing over the payoff like there has to be a ton of explosions or action sequences, I’m all for good story with Star Wars since I was a kid. Im not hear for the heist, I’m here for the good show, the heist just happens to be an integral part of the show

[@dutchvanderlinde4722]

@@bangerxshane episode 1 and 2 were slow but episode 3 was great

[@JuanmaDN885]

@@bangerxshane if you think people who Like this show are waiting for a payoff then you dont understand shit.

[@darthyoda4934]

That’s the same thing you guys said about BoBf and kenobi but they still ended up to be shit

[@gator7082]

It doesn't seem slow to me at all, in fact I thought this weeks episode flew by. Most people would probably benefit by waiting for each arc to complete. The writer made it clear how he structred this show, so it should not be a surprise.

[@MNToThat]

Yeah I was glued to every minute of it

[@toreadoress]

Me too, I loved every minute l, it really helps to get to know the characters, how they think and what drives them and the slow build up really shows the gravity of the situation for these characters, what is the stake for them and in general for us when they have to pull it off. The only thing I didn't like was they completely skipped Mon Mothma's dinner. I think it would've been a really tense situation.

[@ricolives1166]

That 10 second car scene with Mon and Perrin over Coruscant is absolutely beautiful

[@nightmoodandy9146]

Blade Runner fashion.

[@AlexZPlayZGameZ]

@I Always Spoil Your Fun still engaged with Andor and his story but lmao those 10 second scenes are actually my favorite parts

[@CaptainFordo21]

@I Always Spoil Your Fun he literally never said that but go off. Another manchild with a sub-5 seconds attention spam, how quaint.

[@bhiei]

Yes, they are Uber rich, and they gave the impression maybe there was going to be a little activity in the sky car…

[@Andromedon777]

@I Always Spoil Your Fun he said he enjoyed it. Did he say that's what he's there for? Quit your complaining

[@Based_Trogo]

The "unnecessary stuff we don't need" includes secondary character backstory, world building, and plot advancing. THIS IS AN ADULT STAR WARS SHOW! You're not gonna get half baked writing, feel good cameos, and memorable easter eggs. You will however get a riveting story (that doesn't have to do with protecting a child for once) with great writing, screenplay, and directing. stop looking at it like the original trilogy, that was made for children. this is an adult show and should be viewed as such...

[@foellerd]

😂

[@user-gh5sd2nm5y]

I've really lost faith in SWT. I just don't know what he actually wants from a star wars show. Like, how can you call that unnecessary at this point in the story? he has no idea how it's going to pan out and how significant certain stuff may be. wtf?

[@Based_Trogo]

@@user-gh5sd2nm5y my thoughts exactly

[@tom2gunzbombadil689]

Its def good, I was interested from ep 1. Its building and fleshing out the characters. I don't think everyone is going to survive the heist. SWT seems like he needs more light sabers and force stuff. Only thing wrong with this show is it makes me sad about kenobi and BF more.

[@joelgreen3261]

@@user-gh5sd2nm5y yup he has become so negative recently

[@CRlMZlN]

The immaturity of your chat really shows when intelligent storytelling is put in front of them.

[@chasecreamer727]

Thought the “incident” at Kessel mentioned was mostly likely a nod at the Ghost Crew freeing the Wookiee slaves since it also takes place in 5 BBY.

[@juricadogan3870]

Yes, good call.

[@solvemproblerstudios5889]

@@repticare101 What else would it be? Kanan embarrassed Kallus.

[@cmike.skywalker]

Yes, I hope so! I also hope that means we’ll get some cameos from the Ghost crew in Andor. I think it’s definitely possible that we could see General Syndulla!

[@Rievax17]

Nah, definitely a solo reference imo

[@thebrannoncannon6565]

I enjoyed this episode. Definitely slow, but it’s giving development to Cassian and the team which is great. I enjoy when they take time to flesh out these characters and love how natural the dialogue is without any jarring cuts. We won’t have any “Wade” characters in this show. They’re telling these stories in 3 episode arcs and given that this will be Cassian’s first job against the Empire we actually see, I think this episode being slow should be expected. As Cassian becomes more well-known, we’ll see the stakes ramp up as he gets on the Empire’s radar, likely with Syril giving information to Dedra and joining Imperial Security. Then, Mon Mothma and in turn Luthen will be under even more scrutiny as the Empire will suspect the Rebels having secret benefactors. This whole episode feels like the calm before the storm and I loved it’s vibe!

[@jasontorres7756]

Lol, WADE 😆

[@0Tyson0]

when they were sitting around the camp fire talking about what they had to do and what not, i thought this is the entire point of this show, this is where the rebellion starts, they go from this to having luke on their side and overthrowing an entire empire.

[@clashwarz12]

took the words out of my mouth

[@jon1805]

nah, it blows

[@0Tyson0]

@@jon1805 mouth breather take

[@loststoryproductions]

This show is like a Star Wars NOVEL come to life, it might not be for everyone but I LOVE IT!

[@Sealacus]

If this is a novel come to life, its on par with Aftermath, LMAO

[@Raygo.]

I find it both amusing and somewhat sad that this more mature take on the SW universe elicits constant complaint about slowness and lack of "action" from eternal fanboys like Theory et al. You're being presented with a subtle and sophisticated *_drama,_* kids. Allow it to stretch your mind and try to set aside your longing for explosions and light sabers. Personally, I am on the edge of my seat for every minute of every episode. I simply never imagined that SW could create such tension and suspense, such believable characters. That it could both fascinate and repel with the merest flickerings of expression on actors' faces, and the skill with which they deliver their lines. I am in awe of this show's creators, something I have not felt about SW for a *_looong_* time.

[@zqri]

Hopefully this will get the people used to sometimes brain-numbing action movies (I said sometimes) to deeper(?) stories. This feels kinda more like a novel then a… marvel phase 4 “masterpiece”

[@zacase115]

Couldn't agree more. Can't understand the complaints I'm seeing from people. Saying that basically nothing has happened as well couldn't be further from the truth.

[@wumpygaming]

@@youtuber261 see how can you say this tho? Did you even watch the episode?

[@sirmarshall9521]

A lot of Star Wars fans that have been screaming for more 'mature' Star Wars stories are quickly finding out they don't have 'mature' taste.

[@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524]

I generally agree, but this last episode was only about 10-minutes worth of plot relevant information. Basically everything with Andor himself could've been cut and we wouldn't have missed anything of importance. It was very much filler.

[@kytexgd1463]

Really enjoy the slow pace. Very refreshing in comparison to the rushed stuff we’ve gotten in Kenobi. My only complaint with this show is that we don’t see enough aliens. I get that we wouldn’t see any with the empire but it would make sense to see some Twileks, Togrutas and other species with the common folk

[@antoniocortes3901]

Agreed! It's a good show in general, but the lack of aliens makes it feel less like Star Wars and more like a 'common' series.

[@fotomaton7852]

There were aliens on Ferrix as well as droids (B2EMO). But virtually none since they've left. I'm pretty sure its a conscious decision to add to the realism which is what they're going for. I also think it allocates the budget to other things like location, sets & overall cinematography which feels next level in this show.

[@user-gh5sd2nm5y]

@@fotomaton7852 really, outside of maybe the rebel crew there actually hasn't been room for any alien characters after ferrix. So I'm not worried at all

[@EnclaveArtimas]

This is the most realistic StarWars we have ever seen. This is one of the most remarkable moments I’ve ever felt watching in a long time. I thought the episode was a 10/10. This series is series is shot like a professional way and the writing is very impressive to what we watched

[@dougwatkins8372]

Lost credit the second you said you wished they’d hurry up with the point Why? Why rush things Not everything needs to be jam packed like a movie It’s a show for a reason Why complain about any chance to have more Star Wars This is great story telling Building up all the issues and tensions Prepping us all for the inevitable breakdown in the heist

[@rmh3093]

It's really sad to hear so many people that claim to be Star Wars fans complain about the pace, lack of action and lack of lightsabers in these TV series. Of course they are going to be slower, it allows them to tell a richer story and to lay foundations for future content. Everyone wants these big MCU style movies in Star Wars but they can't do that if there are no characters for people to care about.

[@buck342443]

People today have the attention span of squirrels sadly, they would call a masterpiece like the Godfather boring because it doesn't have an action scene ever ten seconds.

[@caelincoolz5814]

@@buck342443 I've never watched the Godfather. Is it a good movie?

[@jtparryheb]

Try googling if the writer of the show himself is a Star Wars fan

[@rmh3093]

@@buck342443 There is some attention span issues going on. But there is a larger issue in that everyone also has all these unjustified expectations where all these new shows are going to go and then get worked up when they dont.

[@user-gh5sd2nm5y]

@@jtparryheb that really doesn't matter, if anything it's an advatage

[@eiden5778]

Theory really doesnt seem to understand good writing. Not that he cant have his opinion but he constantly complains about exposition and expects fan service instead. I understand some of the critiques for the show, but the way Theory goes about it just comes off as a bit odd to me. Also his live chat is toxic and it always seems to strongly affect his opinion on everything, fortunately the comments here seem to be much more reasonable though

[@wavytiger1]

member chewbacca? member the death star? member jawas? member the cantina? member star destroyers?

[@lexituller6988]

I'd be happy if only like 3 episodes of andor had action

[@bomblast2000]

I think people are not as patient as they used to be. I think Luthen was worried about the mission in general and not because he thinks it was a mistake to recruit Andor. I also get parent-child vibes between Vel and Luthen.

[@wavytiger1]

the pace doesnt bother me at all, but since we live in a satisfy me now world i think this show could have benefitted from a netflix style all episode release

[@foellerd]

Mandalorian didn’t have episodes filled with scenes that don’t matter at all to this level. You could literally skip this whole episode and miss nothing. Can’t say that for mandalorian.

[@wavytiger1]

@@foellerd really no filler episodes of mandalorian? chapter 5,6,9 and 10 have all been called "filler"

[@freeffree4133]

It's not about patience...literally nothing happened the last 2 episodes.

[@sirmarshall9521]

@@freeffree4133 You're so incorrect it's insane. When you see episode 6, you'll realize how important episodes 4 and 5 actually are (if you were paying attention). I'll reference this comment after next week to see if you 'get it', as it were.

[@geojimz]

I don’t know man, I’m loving this show and how the are building the story slowly and treating the audience like adults. I’m tired of all the other shows with stuff just being rushed over to get to the next joke. I prefer this style of story telling all day every day. Especially when it’s written well with great dialogue, great characters and amazing acting.

[@yngwiemalmsteen5376]

i'm starting to wonder if the people saying they ''don't like it'' is actually cause of the right wing politics of the empire being shown and them being right wingers are umcomfortable to see what they're supporting

[@Artemis-cl3tl]

@@yngwiemalmsteen5376 cringe

[@yngwiemalmsteen5376]

@@Artemis-cl3tl ive seen youtubers from the u.s. making a career out of that bs

[@danielmullens4733]

The dialogue, world / ambience building, attention to detail, etc. is fantastic. I love it, but can totally understand that some audience types would be bored. It's like reading a book. Yes. I'm a massive fan of the 1990s EU novels. This series is bringing me back to Star Wars. Thank you!

[@gitgeronimo9375]

So many wonderful reviews focusing on the amazing character building, incredible acting, humanizing of characters, and DEPTH. You seem to be the only one upset that you’re not getting the ending at the beginning, if you catch my meaning. Enjoy the ride. It’s an outstanding show that should be savored. Years from now, we’ll still be discussing it.

[@raz2986]

This show is great, and I'm glad it's taking a slower pace and in the end the climax will be so much more worth it. The only thing I wanna say is I just feel like this show is a good show to binge watch, which we are unable to do since it is a weekly release. Breaking Bad for example is slow however it is bingeable and so it doesn't feel as slow. So I think Andor will be so much better the 2nd time watching.

[@SquatchStudios]

I don’t think the breakfast scene was intended to victimize Mon Mothma. I think it was supposed to show that she can be selfish. It shows that her dedication to the cause results in some tension in her own house. It doesn’t set up an arch for her to prove them wrong, but to bring them in.

[@MAF83580]

That’s exactly it. The fact that he saw it as them ganging up on her is a shockingly bad take. It’s to show that she is distant from her family because of all that she has going on. She’s stretched too thin.

[@spritelybird]

When a passion becomes a fire it consumes everything. She will lose everything and save the galaxy. A true hero.

[@brendanjohnstone4493]

Yeah it shows that even when you are trying to fight for justice, if you dedicate yourself too much, you can neglect those around you. It is a super important scene in reminding the audience there is no perfect character and brings her character more depth. Everyone is flawed but it makes them more interesting.

[@MAF83580]

@@brendanjohnstone4493 absolutely. I thought it was a terrific scene. Again the fact that SWT saw it completely the other way is really shocking to me.

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

both her and her daughter are right in that scene. she is hurt, and so is her daughter. it's a tough situation.

[@TimDaco]

Awesome Video!!! This Show is Absolutely Incredible!!! The Acting, The Writing, The Music and The Character Arcs, Everything is just Brilliant!!! One Of The Best Shows I've Ever Seen!!!

[@adamday8313]

I can understand that for some people this will be a very slow-moving show. However, I am loving it. I love that we are getting to know all the characters on a personal level instead of just the main characters like Cassian and Mon Mothma. I feel like the build-up will make the action we do get in future episodes far more satisfying and possibly more emotional.

[@hourlateunofficial]

nah the pace is perfect because it doesn’t feel like the characters’ relationships from both sides are buddy buddy just because they’re on the same side, which makes the characters way more memorable

[@alexwalker4644]

I really enjoyed episodes 4-5 for a few reasons, specifically: 1. They really showcase the sheer opulence of the high ranking imperial officials (specifically senators) with lavish penthouses on the Coruscant surface complete with servants as opposed to normal, blue collar people on planets far away from the galactic core. 2. The inner workings of the imperial bureaucracy and the dynamic of everyday imperial officers This show has explored a lot that we haven’t seen before and I look forward to delving further into the empire during this time period.

[@carolyncollins5367]

Thank you for your passion in making these videos. I love the pacing here ... in the past, some of the shows have rushed through important moments and left me wondering how certain characters could do what they did or how character arcs were skipped, leaving me questioning steps taken or abilities. In this show, the writers have really thought through who each character on screen is, whether the character is in the background, has a supporting role, or is one of the main focuses. They are not just there... they have a purpose; some miner while others are quite important. I like that. I like it when a show thinks through the background as much as the foreground and, through excellent writing, takes us on a journey. It doesn't have to be perfect b/c nothing is perfect ... it's a messy galaxy filled with messy places and messy characters trying to carve out their little piece in the galaxy or just trying to survive. Regarding the next episode, I think they will be executing the heist ... the writers seem to be grouping story arcs into three episodes per group. The overall story flows through, but the supporting stories cover three episodes.

[@Michyosef]

I loved this episode, I enjoy the slow pace for this.

[@spencer3419]

Holy fuck this episode, I was hooked! That's how you know that this is good SW, no action, just amazing writing and directing!

[@pyroromancer]

i think Mon Motha's sour relationship with her daughter depicts how absent shes been in her daughter's life. On her off time she's spending time on the rebellion and it's costing her, her relationship with her daughter and maybe even her husband. My dad was highly absent from my life and when he was around no one wanted to spend time with him because we are used to not having him around, but obviously he wants to spend time with us because he's excited to be home with us.

[@patrickbateman4258]

I’m not sure the dinner happened yet, because in the trailer we see Mon Mothra sitting in her little circular lounge talking to someone while it looks like some sort of party or gathering is going on in their place, including a shot of her husband looking over to her too

[@Vortual]

I think they skipped it - the table was set for breakfast in the scene this episode which means this scene took place the next day, implying the dinner happened already (the previous night). I think the dialogue last week was primarily world building for Mon Mothma’s story. Not to worry anyway, we know from the trailer that we see various events in her house in future episodes.

[@user-gh5sd2nm5y]

@@Vortual yeah, it doesn't have to be a set up for a fan service moment. It's just a nice detail. It's basically what an easter egg should, not made obvious and thrown in your face

[@AirbenderHawk]

It really is building up into something special for the upcoming ones, and the car part really amps up the tension.

[@WolfgangLunar]

That build-up better pay off because so far, we could have had two Star Wars films due to the time that has passed we have gotten nothing that has left Star Wars fans shocked and surprised.

[@bross7801]

@@WolfgangLunar why do we need to be shocked and surprised within 5 episodes of a new tv show? Plus saying we could’ve had 2 movies makes no sense since this is a tv show, it’s made nothin like a movie

[@eiden5778]

@@WolfgangLunar The episodes are clearly written into blocks of three, the third ones being the climactic episode. So like episode 3, episode 6 is probably going to have a lot of action. And we dont need things that will "shock and surprise" us for it to be good

[@AirbenderHawk]

@@eiden5778 thank you!! I’m a sucker for slow burning stuff so this series speaks to me

[@WolfgangLunar]

@@bross7801 I know that. I made that clear in the comment. Because majority of the people watching the show that I know and or are KZbinrs are saying it's boring because there is nothing happening.

[@TheLandonCoker]

As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I love this show. It’s building a real story, with relatable characters, and it’s not just slamming us with fan service. I don’t think Star Wars or any show needs to be constant “action”. Part of the beauty of this show is that you get to peak behind the curtain with characters like Mon Mothma. We get to see the struggles that these characters faced, and that makes the action we get in other films and shows that much more special.

[@dopeskone]

I love this kind of story. Slow burn that gives time to develop characters. None of the characters so far feel rushed or skin deep. We're getting to see everyday life on different planets outside of open war or just around a space port.

[@JorgeLuis80100]

I love how the show is slowly building up to the main climax, a lot of character development, a lot of plot building, I genuinely think the show is AMAZING! Definitely going to make the rest of the episodes some great ones the way they are slowly drip feeding us👏🏽

[@theaveragegatsby4125]

And so much respect for the state of the universe at the time. There’s so much detail and nuance to this show it’s amazing. True fans who truly appreciate and respect the SW world see the beauty in this series

[@Ian-Omega]

We haven’t had a lot of character development though

[@sonnycrackel]

Each episode I feel like I get to step into that world, and I don’t want it to end!

[@twit7380]

This show is all about the characters, who they are, their motivations and their actions AND the consequences of those actions. That being said the slow pacing is necessary and in my mind perfect.

[@Kelpwoud]

I agree! At no point while watching have I felt any 'slow' pacing. And when it ends you realize how well they are really building this story.

[@scottstobbe]

Loving the pacing. This is how long form storytelling is done. I die a little inside every time I hear people say it’s too slow. Soon our attention spans will be so ruined, content like this simply won’t be created anymore.

[@AR-io8fv]

The writing is so good in this. Surprise hit for me was Syril’s mom who I can’t wait to see more of haha.

[@kellibrown3859]

I think the dinner party is still upcoming. There are some preview clips that show what looks like a dinner party. Also, if the party is at their apartment, why would they be driving away from it in the speeder?

[@pawpatrol55]

She took off her earings

[@jamescarabini9053]

I hope so. Or they could flash back to how conversations then are shaping the actions to come.

[@maxtaylor14]

A show doesn’t need fast paced fight scenes and cameos to be interesting. The pacing adds depth and further connects us to the characters.

[@WhatDayIsItTrumpDay]

Theory, before last night's episode, I rewatched Eps 1 - 4 and finished up just as 5 went live. (Pretty good timing, if I do say so myself) And I noticed one thing...the show is better upon rewatch as you now kinda know what's going on and what little details are leading to. I actually picked up on a lot of little details that I missed the first time through and it made watching the show more enjoyable, so I think once the season is complete, a full rewatch will be so much more rewarding.

[@ragidyymann5109]

The slow burn, character development, exposition, and dialogue is what makes this show so excellent. It’s a stand out And, thus far, my favorite Star Wars show. I want more of this.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

You people want instant gratification Life doesn’t work like that 😂 Show is done very well

[@TheGhettoGinger]

This show has a target audience as opposed to other Star Wars media. I for one, am part of that audience and couldn't be happier with the pacing. Makes me excited for every single episode.

[@thomabow8949]

The production, writing, and pacing on this show is exactly what I would have wanted for the Kenobi show. That show which came off as quite cheesy, poorly produced, with strange acting and creative decisions. So far, other than the slow pace and some "filler" episodes (only filler in the way that nothing culminated at the end) I love it

[@ZensanFGC]

That's how we go talking and relaying huge secrets through walls from Reva for plot convenience.

[@slippinjimmy9787]

I expected way too much from Kenobi

[@ronniewhitedx]

I would have done three seasons of the Kenobi show if it was at this pace and this level of writing. Such a rushed experience that show was.

[@thomabow8949]

@@ronniewhitedx Three would be a bit too much for me; a two part miniseries, half featuring vader, half featuring kenobi would be the best way to go about it in my opinion.

[@donovanwoods9417]

This show respects fans as more intelligent than simply needed if force users and light sabers. I LOVE IT!

[@k--music]

I liked the episode a lot, it seems the dinner party will be later since it’s in a trailer. I’m not surprised ppl found it boring if you were expecting cameos and action scenes but I’m loving the tension and the way they round out all the characters. None of them are just faces with a name (like most of bobf and kenobi’s side characters are) they all feel like real people living under the empire

[@Uncivil_Dreams]

honestly not sure why people keep saying we find it boring cuz we are expecting “cameos” and fan service. where does that conclusion come from, nobody was expecting that and most people dont want that. its simply boring because literally nothing has happened over the course of 5 episodes and 3 weeks, now we wait another week to see cryill eating cereal again while looking sad? theres nothing making it interesting. this episode changed my taste to sour towards this show.

[@choppaa4204]

I wanted less cameos/action scenes but this show is so slow its almost unwatchable. Its difficult to stay interested in the prequel of a star wars story especially when it moves so slow. The best part of the episode was when he had the knife to his neck but hes wearing thick thick plot armor

[@N.barakos1845]

@@choppaa4204 that’s probably because you are 13 years old

[@choppaa4204]

@@N.barakos1845 malaka im 30. I dont have time to watch hours and hours of conversational drama

[@reazonuk2362]

What tension ?

[@lonely_adolescent2715]

Love that the show is taking things slow and letting us get to know the characters better

[@sane8176]

I think people would appreciate the slow burn style of Andor a lot more if they would release 3 episodes a week.

[@dnicej1293]

I agree! A 4 part mini series like the original "The Stand" TV adaptation would have been perfect

[@N.barakos1845]

I enjoy it with the one episode a week

[@opsatr]

3 episodes a week won't really work either if the episode list on Andor's wikipedia page means what I think it means... It should be more like: week 1: ep 1-3 week 2: ep 4-6 week 3: ep 7 week 4: ep 8-10 week 5: ep 11-12 That way, though, week 3 would be so short compared to the others. I personally think it's fine the way it is now.

[@Philipp3022]

then disney makes less $ with subs for their streaming service ^^ but yep 2 episodes a week would be dope with the slow pacing

[@jessenavas4802]

I am thoroughly enjoying the show and the change of pace is so refreshing. There doesn’t have to be a giant reveal or callback to other movies/Easter eggs EVERY episode to keep my interest… the characters are so believable and their motivations are compelling. This feels so grounded in reality yet so believable for the Star Wars universe… it reminds me of some of the novels. Character building isn’t unnecessary, it’s essential - there needs to be stakes, and the stakes here so far feel so real. We know there will be action sequences and callbacks at some point in the show, let’s enjoy this superb storytelling, acting, score, and build up while we can.

[@glcsander]

The momment we learn about the Liutenent defeted is why this show is so crucial "he fell in love in a local, he lost her so he lost his love from the empire" so simple yet so powerful, i understand that watching a 40 minutes of a show for these little moments is boring but its essencial, we all know where this leads to this is the calm before the storm, cause in Rogue one only Andor is present so it means that this crew doesnt make it, so i apreciate their taking the time to lets us know more about each one of them.

[@brendanjohnstone4493]

And it also teaches us valuable lessons and parallels. The real world. I love when Star Wars involves political themes like this, some may hate it, but Star Wars has always been political and was intended to be from the very beginning. The entire point of it is to parallel things in the real world and let the viewer notice flaws in our world.

[@Budders5576]

i personally like how slow theyre taking this, it really shows how much they care about the characters and whats happening and it allows everything to make more sense. Were getting every little detail and i love it and i have the patience for it, this isnt something we usually get with star wars.

[@itsuperboy]

Keep up the great work and wish you all the best ♥️

[@edisonjara900]

this show is incredible, every second of it.

[@takemywatch]

‘The boy has no patience'

[@pear_bear]

I love the multiple perspectives in this show. Showing the politics, the rebels, and the empire.

[@Kryptarch]

Tbh I loved this episode! The only thing that really bummed me out was that they completely skipped over the dinner with Sly Moore...I think a lot of us were looking forward to that. I did really enjoy the character development with the developing Rebels, especially the soon-to-be ex-Imperial. Seeing the grass roots of the Rebellion is really quite amazing. I hope we get to see more of the Senate!

[@marketingIdeaslol]

This show is top tier. Best episode yet

[@AlmightyAjax]

The acting is great in this show. Makes you realy care about the characters

[@TheRealAlpha2]

I don't think the show needs a lot of action because it's tense. The slow pace is effective for this reason. We're given threads that are weaving together and then left to wait for things to happen similar to Luthen in his shop waiting for word. During that wait we're give more back story on how the empire views the universe and how people are not only being effected by them by how they're getting around it. I don't expect every show to be like this going forward, but I do enjoy that they're telling different types of stories in the universe that aren't just non canon anthologies.

[@grogon2814]

I really enjoy the show, I just like that we can finally see the galaxy in more real point of view. I think storylines are interesting and actors are playing their roles amazingly.

[@ANOLIMITY]

A slow but important episode, but I've actually gone back to rewatch the official trailer a few times. There's still quite a few scenes we haven't seen yet that are to come in the second half of the season. For example, Mon Mothma in the Senate, Luthen Rael meeting Saw Guererra, and Andor returning to Ferrix where it is overrun by Stormtroopers. The show is building up to something big eventually.

[@dominicvaughan6572]

For me pacing and tone of this show has been ideal. Very consistent with a political/spy thriller - giving a very deep insight into imperial era galaxy! Cannot wait for the heist and the fall out!

[@mraverage3700]

Ngl 1st time i disagree with theory. I think the show has been solid so far with plenty of positives

[@andrescarrenov]

I’m really loving that the serie it’s taking its time and it’s not a 6 episode “season” like any other show on the last time

[@ivanmolina5778]

I think it is "slow" for a reason, I think they want you to feel very invested in the characters in order to feel submerged in the empire and early beginnings of the rebellion. I honestly love it so far. I love the dialogue I feel like I am in the empire behind the scenes

[@bhiei]

Another good episode, the actors are doing a fantastic job, music is excellent too and heightens the tension

[@lucaswilliams9646]

I actually don’t think Mon Mothma and her husband were coming back from dinner in that scene because I was under the impression that the dinner was at their house (since Mon’s husband made the seating arrangements). So it wouldn’t make sense if they were leaving the dinner and driving home in that scene if the dinner was supposed to be at their home. I don’t think the dinner has happened yet.

[@cmike.skywalker]

I’m really loving this show! I enjoy that it’s taking things slower and giving us time to connect with these characters (since most of them are completely new to us). I think it’s doing a great job of building tension; this all feels like the “calm before the storm” or the “deep breath before the plunge.” I did want to see the dinner with Sly Moore, but it’s likely we’ll see her in the future anyway. I also like the dynamics that we’re seeing with Mon Mothma and her personal life as well. It shows how she’s sacrificing so much to take down the Empire, to the point where it even affects her relationship with her family. And I hope we get some cameos of other characters once we really see the Rebellion take off (like General Hera Syndulla!). Overall I’m enjoying this show, and I look forward to future seasons!

[@christopherr157]

Not really sure what could have been cut. I really enjoyed all the scenes and didn't feel like there was much wasted or filler This is definitely a TV show and not a movie and so they are clearly leaning into that. Reminds me of Game of Thrones where the best moments were intense conversations more so than the dragons and fighting. All that stuff will come eventually but the build-up to the powderkeg going off is part of what will give it more impact. Definitely preferred over the paper-think characters we saw in the sequels, right? I think the key is in expectations. It's not helpful to over anticipate all the connections to stuff we know already. This show is interested in really just carving out a cozy corner of the universe and really diving into what it's like to actually LIVE in Star Wars.

[@jerrygil1965]

Awesome episode with a great cliffhanger that is full of dialogue that doesn't have to be actiony all the time

[@andrewkalustian]

In regards to 4:40, Han Solo calls it a gun during Return of the Jedi right before he shoots the sarlacc pit to save lando

[@elck3]

People can tell if a show has been crafted lovingly and with attention to detail and good dialogue, etc. Andor fits all of those qualities and most can easily feel that. Unlike Obi-Wan for example, or Boba Fett.

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

This show is so many orders of magnitude better than anything Star Wars has ever done before it’s actually crazy

[@MattyJBass]

Personally I am loving the slower pace of this. In my opinion Star Wars needs something more along the lines of this and I’m very happy that we’re getting it! Cheers dude 🤘🏻!

[@MonstersNotUnderTheBed]

This whole story arc reminds me of the WWII guerrilla operation movie "Where Eagles Dare". I would love to know all the WWII inspirations the writers had.

[@noHOPEof]

soO many dozens of WW II films ~ It remains interesting to compare the Imperial casting( perfection ) to the easily loath(able) ones in the script of something as recent as 2020's highly ignored 'Resistance' with Jessie Eisenberg. There ARE the expected tense WW II scenarios( nothing to rival the Classics - merely fresh in the mind ) ~ cheers. *Andor* nothing but a triumph (not for all senses ~ which is perfectly fine)

[@DaveMuller]

I think the pacing is brilliant. After so many fast and non-sensical shows by Disney, finally we have something that is moody and builds. I am so invested in the characters now and cannot wait to see how it folds out.

[@keobiwan]

At 09:30 you can see the "Sankara stones" from Indiana Jones on the top right shelf. Really fun finding all these Easter eggs

[@josha5266]

They look like them lol, good catch.

[@craigt2192]

Breaking Bad was a slow build for anyone who’s seen it and that’s one of the best shows ever! Loving Andor, feels next level

[@melissakampers]

I feel like this serie is World Building in a new way that will benefit series down the road including season 2 of Andor.

[@SCHDSTAN]

I’m loving every slow minute of this show. So good.

[@taintliquor00]

really hate how people hate underdeveloped characters but when characters get development the show is boring and taking to long. pls just enjoy something that’s good for once

[@MullacAbu1]

Modern attention spans can't handle a show that actually takes it's time, I see a lot of people saying it's too slow and whatever. I am enjoying this series so far. I don't mind a little depth. I actually appreciate that they are taking their time to flush everything out, introduce everyone, etc. I am probably an outlier on this one but not EVERY star wars show needs to be "PEW PEW" "SABER SLASH" "CAMEO" "SHITTY PLOT". This show is actually really cool, I guess people just don't have the patience for depth anymore

[@alexanderforsman2166]

Andor is progressing exactly the way and pace I hoped it would. The build up for the heist and gradual character development is really drawing me in. Dedra second guessing her instinct while investigating the stolen imperial tech. Karn lamenting his lost career and overbearing but perceptive mother. Andor and the rebels mistrusting each other while battling their nerves in the days before the heist. Luthen worrying about the outcomes and methodology of the mission he facilitated. And Mon Mothma fighting for the disenfranchised from within while her family grows distant. This is how a slow burn is done properly, and what i’ve wanted from StarWars for years.

[@nightryder21]

I really love the time they are putting into all the characters. I love the exposition. Wen had to get more of the characters the books, comics, etc. This is excellent film work. My only gripe is that I do wish they would give us 2 episodes per week cause I keep wanting more.

[@seths2k2]

Luke said his "gun" was jammed when he was in the death star trash compactor being attacked by the dianoga.

[@Luke_Skvwalker]

Yea, I’m pretty sure there are more moments where they call blasters “guns” I think it’s just another word for blasters in starwars

[@jasonthompson3767]

I have ZERO issue with the pacing of this show. It isn't rushed, forced, and doesn't rely on cameos.

[@nezaeya]

Just expect every 3rd episode of the 4 arcs of this season to be A main event. The previous 2 episodes before every 3rd will be leading up to each event.

[@toreadoress]

I know it's probably boring for most, but for me I just love the slow build up, I really can feel the suspense and the heaviness of the situation in a way I haven't really felt in more fast paced shows. Like someone said in the comments, it's building brick by brick. It allows to show the individual personas and thinking of the characters. The only thing I didn't like was they just skipped the dinner, I was really looking forward for it and it could've been a really tense situation especially since Mon Mothma has so much in stake and surrounded by enemies in her home

[@Kimberly-hb1om]

With each episode I enjoy this show more and more.

[@Superdelphinus]

I don’t get the bit around hoping they cut a load of it out and get to the point. I think what makes this show so good is the brilliant writing and character development over time. If you want darth Vader as much as possible in every other scene doing something darth vadery there’s plenty of other things you can see that in. In fact I’m not even sure how they would portray Vader in something like this, it’s quite an interesting thought - it’s almost like he wouldn’t really fit. The other bit I really like is the music where they’re completely doing the lazy call backs to classic Star Wars themes at the expense of actual emotion.

[@skydivingintofiction7532]

If you look at the first trailer for Andor, it shows Mon Mothma at a party with several guest. I think this could be the one that was hinted at in Episode four.

[@ElanorNarmolanya]

I understand it may feel slow if you're waiting for the big lore and intersections with the greater Star Wars universe, but it is SO IMPORTANT for them to take the time to flesh out these characters. They are new, but if they build it right, someday they won't be new, they'll be familiar, beloved or hated characters because they actually took the time to get to know them. We didn't grow to love Ahsoka, Rex, or Ezra in a day, we love them because we had SEASONS to learn about them. Everyone is allowed to have preferences, and if you don't enjoy this style of media that's fine, but I hope people see that in order to build something worthwhile, you need a good foundation. I for one am incredibly impressed with this show. The dialogue is so much more organic and dynamic than the previous SW shows.

[@62shayne]

Theory doesn’t want the character building, he wants the explosions and action, can’t keep his attention 😂

[@_Toxicity]

I think the breakfast scene with Mon Mothma really, really highlights how she doesn't have her husband's support, not even domestically. She's arguing with her daughter, and he just sits there in silence and actually seemed to be amused or even happy that his daughter likes him better than his wife--NOT a place to be as a family.