Andre Paurenfeyndt's 'Basics of Knightly Fencing': a workshop on Messer and other onehanded Swords

[@RL-kk5yf]

Very interesting, I'm started to study messer and one handed weapons in hema by seing your YT channel. I'm exited to test this with my friends

[@VirtualFechtschule]

That's really cool to hear. Have fun! :D

[@Interrobang212]

I'm a beginner hema student, so I found this quite useful. I'm primarily learning longsword but I also enjoy messer.

[@saltyfruits3961]

Cute rainbow socks! 😍😍

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Thanks!

[@TheSinisterSwordsman]

Great work as always, Oskar!!!

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Thank you! :)

[@sanguinoid8919]

For me personally the messer gives my wrist a lot more freedom of motion which feels more comfortable and reliable to my hand. The katzbalger feels quicker*? but it's almost more comfortable to hold with my thumb on the flat which probably isn't right I feel like I'm missing something with the katzbalger mechanically that I'm almost certain is an operator error 😅

[@VirtualFechtschule]

I actually quite like the thumb grip on this katzbalger too, which is only a problem if you're going to be cutting with it. :P It just feels comfortable. For an actually short katz I prefer to just hold it in hammer grip and sacrifice range for structure.

[@MarylandJeetKuneDo]

Thank you for this tutorial!

[@VirtualFechtschule]

You're welcome! :D

[@MarylandJeetKuneDo]

@@VirtualFechtschule I taught a Kali workshop last weekend based on Ilustrismo's 12 Defenses. The first set of footwork against an overhead forehand attack was the exact same you illustrated here. Very cool!

[@WinnipegKnightlyArts]

Legend says that if you put two dussacks together you get the legendary weapon 'giant's scissors'

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Hehehe. I have a hunch Paurenfeyndt might even work with giant scissors. :P

[@WinnipegKnightlyArts]

@@VirtualFechtschule Lol, I bet it probably would. When you went over the basic advice I was checking off everything that I said to brand new students last class, and I said everything.

[@VirtualFechtschule]

@@WinnipegKnightlyArts Excellent. I noticed that It worked really well during the actual workshop as well. It was a good way to make sure people do what's needed to make the stücke work in the first place. :)

[@WinnipegKnightlyArts]

@@VirtualFechtschule it helps get them in the right mindset too. Make properly timed intentional strikes when you see an opening, don't dive in on all or nothing cuts.

[@VirtualFechtschule]

@@WinnipegKnightlyArts Agreed. Setting the right intention for a class is important and this will do it! :)

[@based_prophet]

bout time some one is fighting right watch this guy

[@BS-bd5uq]

May I ask where do you get that straight sword from? Is it a custom order from Landskchnet Emporium?

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Yes, well spotted!

[@BS-bd5uq]

@@VirtualFechtschule Could you tell me what it's called? I heard it's proto-something from the vid, but can't really figure it out the word haha

[@VirtualFechtschule]

@@BS-bd5uq proto-katzbalger! It's got the hilt of a Katzbalger, but they generally have slightly different blade types and not yet full S-quillons like true Katzbalger have.

[@BS-bd5uq]

@@VirtualFechtschule That's very interesting! Is there any read on the history of Katzbalgers? It seems to be quite mysterious

[@VirtualFechtschule]

@@BS-bd5uq yeah, that's the thing. Established literature doesn't quite know either and has pretty much just ignored what we now call proto-katzbalgers as if they're just anomalies. There's quite some originals and depictions though. Most of what I know is from discussions with people who have seen lots of originals and from skimming through old forum posts such as these: www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8630

[@johnflais3776]

I like how your partner in the first Paurenfeyndt clip is wearing a Bauerfeind knee brace :D Incidental or on purpose? ;)

[@VirtualFechtschule]

It was a total coincidence, but a very nice one indeed! XD

[@ajithsidhu7183]

More meesser combos please

[@VirtualFechtschule]

There might be. It's a fun format, so I might do a fun addendum to this in the future! :D

[@Korrinath]

Is there a translation in print, or just the wiktenauer?

[@VirtualFechtschule]

I have a facsimile edition, but it's only in the original German. I don't know any printed translation to be fair. :(

[@based_prophet]

this why miyomoto even mention knightly fighting in his style ironically I think he had exterior training could explain the added skill he was a very curious individual but scooping under blad don't miss wrist gut n below waist up you punch n hammer down n go for a step scopp rewind wrist crash ur now a hemi k tanna sword master to lol I'm a advid sword trainer since I was 7 35 now

[@based_prophet]

just remember sword training is a endless activity to master you just don't become the best with out maintaining ur conditioning mind n spiritual sence like when the world n heaven collide that's sun tzu slang for im taking this shit to the grave i.e

[@nicknad9165]

Kinda related bur Bruce Lee's did western boxing before he got into kung fu

[@based_prophet]

hate go samurai but in first segment you cut at wrist if u scoop the sword if not punch n hammer wrist I was told in my school for like 300 years not to test wrist breaking moves be very careful not to break that top bone of wrist n don't lean forward ur head will get in retracting wrist from a advance attacking parry cut but I dint say shit