In the name of God, put him in the sack: when fencing gets a bit ridiculous

Guess, what? I'm back and things are getting silly at the virtual Fechtschule! Enjoy this video about some of the weirder pieces from Hans Lecküchner's fight book for Langes Messer.
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Fencers:
Christiaan, Kyara, Ties, Ronin and Oskar
0:00 intro
0:52 Why do these techniques in the first place?
3:46 Stück 1: Purse Cut
4:35 Stück 2: Thrusting between both legs
5:21 Stück 3: The Unnamed
7:09 Conclusions.
Music courtesy of epidemicsound.com
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[@galenmarek2765]

It’s a shame so many see HEMA as just “how to kill people with swords” and not the art and social activity it was originally

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Yeah. That oversimplification is stupid, but it also keeps interpretations of other stuff than martially super effective things, because if you do put out something from a different context all the keyboard warriors come out of the Woodworks.

[@BS-bd5uq]

That groin thrust is so impressive. Definitely would try it tomorrow against my buddies : )

[@VirtualFechtschule]

This one is actually pretty easy to do. I sometimes use this when I fail at grappling and I end up with my back to my sparring partner as well, and it quite often salvages the situation. 😅

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Whoever wins a tournament using the groin thrust technique should be dubbed Yoshimitsu XD

[@VirtualFechtschule]

I've heard of the character, but I don't get the reference. Should've played Tekken more I guess. :P

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

@@VirtualFechtschule Soul Caliber. Japenese dude that stabs himself and his opponent and uses his sword as pogo stick along with crotch stab. Junk motions with I guess are and example of old cross cultural humor.

[@BS-bd5uq]

I think one of Leckuchner's technique would disarm your opponent first, throw him to the ground, and then strand himself with his own messer on the back. That's very impressive.

[@VirtualFechtschule]

You mean that armoured technique where, if you do that, they can't get up anymore?

[@BS-bd5uq]

@@VirtualFechtschule Yes!

[@gabrielpottebaum5249]

These are such good fun to show off!

[@VirtualFechtschule]

They are! :D

[@thomaswilkinson3241]

Intro: What is that? An Abduction technique? Fun though to think about it.

[@VirtualFechtschule]

You could use it to abduct someone, although in this case the Fight Book says it's for shits and giggles.

[@thomaswilkinson3241]

@@VirtualFechtschule All in the context of the writer I would guess. If it was written for the fun of it, to humiliate ones enemy, grabbing him by his honour and maybe vanity. Whatever it is, it is a cool technique.

[@dashiellharrison4070]

I've heard the phrase "highest bleeding head wound" so often over the past 10 years that I kind of feel silly for finally asking someone about it, but I'm still not entirely clear on what it means: Is that the person who inflicts a bloody wound highest up on the head wins or that the person who inflicts the bloodiest head wound wins?

[@andyedwards9222]

It's good to see our ancestors were just as ridiculous as us some times.

[@waerlogauk]

I had not realised that the unscrew the pommel and throw it at them technique was just for beginners!

[@edi9892]

The last one reminded me of some Indian technique of how to entangle your enemy in a sash and tie him up...

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Ooh, that's pretty cool! It wouldn't surprise me, with convergent evolution and such, but still really cool that that exists. Do you have any idea where I can find that technique?

[@edi9892]

@@VirtualFechtschule Google Nidar Singh Nihang. He teaches Sanatan Shastar Vidiya (I take no responsibility for the spelling). He does near exclusively armed combat of the Sikhs. I really enjoy his understanding of footwork and balance. He got some cool tricks, but I'd doubt that he'd fair well in a HEMA or MMA tournament, as he's similar to a a Kongfu teacher, if you get my drift. I don't want to discredit his style though. It just needs some safety equipment and sparring...

[@edi9892]

@@VirtualFechtschule BTW: he teaches in Britain and seems to hold a grudge against Westerners. He trash talks too much. So be warned.

[@dlackovic13]

Love these silly plays. Reminds me, too, of that Jobst von Würrtemberg play you helped me with a while back as well.

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Oh yeah! That one was pretty amazing! :D

[@kamilajedrzejewska3700]

I love it so much ❤️

[@henninghesse9910]

Shits and giggles, that´s what life should be about anyway! Great content!

[@BorninPurple]

Interesting video: I'm surprised you didn't bring up these techniques in relation to the Feuds/cartels of defiance which entailed burning property and (maybe?) kidnapping people (hence, putting someone in the sack).

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Because the text quite explicitly mentions the Fechtschule here, while feuding in Southern Germany was generally a slightly more serious affair than the name implies, placing it rather in the warfare context

[@BorninPurple]

@@VirtualFechtschule Interesting, makes for a good show/stag do.

[@TITANia69420]

I thought the sack thing was for kidnapping someone lmao

[@VirtualFechtschule]

I mean... You could use it for that theoretically. 😅

[@joadams8022]

No playing backgammon tho?

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Nope. Unless the pretzelled person is very experienced with this piece, it's going to be either slow and awkward or really painful, so I left that variation of the hold out.

[@daedalus6796]

I feel like I just watched a kidnapping

[@VirtualFechtschule]

Because you did.... ? ;P

[@VishnuZutaten]

Maybe these techniques are just a joke by Hans? A self conscious joke on fencing manual community - and elaborate techniques themselves? Especially the third unnamed one that is supposed to be super secret. And he trolls ppl into trying it in the gym and competition.