478 Which LoRaWAN Gateway Is Best For Me (Comparison)? Part 1

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Andreas Spiess

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LoraWAN is a widely used low-power, long-range network that consists of sensors and gateways. I will provide you with an overview and a comparison of the currently available LoRaWAN gateways, as well as how to select them. Because most gateways use the same chips and should have similar ranges, I will not test it. Still, you will see big differences in capabilities, software, and price.
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@oleeide9763
@oleeide9763 3 ай бұрын
Sad to hear about Discka, always nice to see her inn the videos, it gave the videos a warm touch. And the way you talked about here I know you loved here alot and she is deeply missed.. Regard from a fellow cat person.. And yes please make a video about NB-iot..
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, we miss her. But this is live...
@AnotherMaker
@AnotherMaker 3 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry for your loss. Thank you (and Discka) for being such a valuable asset to the maker community. I've learned so much from you over the years.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@svenmichelsde
@svenmichelsde 3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Diska - thanks for all the lovely appearance on the videos and all the best for you behind the rainbow bridge.
@mrmx2k
@mrmx2k 3 ай бұрын
So sad Diska passed away, such a lovely pet that shows us the great human behind that great techy! Thank you both for the warmest educational videos, keep it up! Greetings from Spain
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@muebau
@muebau 3 ай бұрын
I am sorry to hear about Discka, I feel with you. All the best.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ericbwertz
@ericbwertz 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiessMy deepest sympathies. I'm also sharing your loss. You are no doubt surrounded by other love.
@anthonyhowes6637
@anthonyhowes6637 3 ай бұрын
Very sorry to hear about the loss of your beautiful cat Diska. I have watched you channel regularly for over 10 years and as a 'catty' person myself, Diska added an extra dimension to the entertainment.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, she belonged to the lab because she was often here...
@hoctrimededebutry8655
@hoctrimededebutry8655 3 ай бұрын
A heartfelt thought for Discka, i'm sorry for your loss ! All the best
@klassichd10
@klassichd10 3 ай бұрын
Thank your for your effort! Currently I have no application for LoRaWAN. but it is used in our community for water supply. Sorry about Dishka. I grew up in an old farm house (half timbered) and this was also a paradise for our cats.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome! Indeed, LoRa is now widely used for such applications. I thought I will do a comparison of gateways for the next years... Dishka was very special, she never went outside the house even when doors were open. Because we got her from an asylum, we did not know, why.
@pioupiou3935
@pioupiou3935 3 ай бұрын
Sad news about Diska. RIP 💕
@markottaway6899
@markottaway6899 3 ай бұрын
Another great video, thank you for the detailed effort you put in. And sorry for the loss of your family member Diska, her contributions were short but always gave feel good moments. It takes a long time to recover from such a loss.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, she had a lot of fans ;-)
@StefanoBettega
@StefanoBettega 3 ай бұрын
I'm really sorry for Diska, she vas really nice appearing in videos to greet us. Hugs to you and your wife.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Kevin192291
@Kevin192291 3 ай бұрын
LoRaWAN is currently my favorite technology, Ever since you talked about it way back when, I have LOVED LoRaWAN.
@ecotts
@ecotts 3 ай бұрын
LoRa is getting very popular thanks to all these gadget loving KZbinrs 👍
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
LoRa indeed is an interesting technology. And the low module prices help, too...
@avejst
@avejst 3 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss Great video. Love to hear more about the topics you mentioned in the video 👍 😀
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your feedback!
@brendanm720
@brendanm720 3 ай бұрын
Informative, as always. I am sorry to hear of Diska's passing.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@scrapwomblecreatives6944
@scrapwomblecreatives6944 3 ай бұрын
sorry to here of your loss loved to see yours up and down., cats become apart of family am dreading mine going she sits by my side most the day, we both do . take good care, always nice to see you posting
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, she was a lot in the lab. This is why she apeared from time-to-time in a video...
@mvadu
@mvadu 3 ай бұрын
We are going to miss her.. Sorry for your loss 😢
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TheMvieira
@TheMvieira 3 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. She was part of our maker team. :-(
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
It seems so if I read all the comments!
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about Diska. I think you gave her a good life. She will be missed.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, she came from an asylum and liked to live here...
@al_lazy3519
@al_lazy3519 3 ай бұрын
Thanks as always for your video Mr. Spiess. I've used some of the knowledge from you about LoRa for my graduation thesis
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Very good. I like to read that!
@jaredbater6229
@jaredbater6229 3 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Looking forward to the next one on outdoor gateways. We use Mikrotik LtAP with r11e-lte6 and Lora9 mini pci-e cards in industrial applications and I'm excited that Mikrotik has finally released CUPS support in recent versions or RouterOS7. I'm also quite interested in your upcoming video about lte cat m and NB-IOT. Fantastic work, as always.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
With the newest version (7.14) CUPS seem to work without error messages...
@ivanbaggett3303
@ivanbaggett3303 3 ай бұрын
Sad news about Dishka. As I'm a cat person too, I always loved it when you included her in your videos. Thank you for giving her a good life and enabling her to spread joy to your viewers.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, she had a lot of fans if I look at all the comments!
@silverian
@silverian 3 ай бұрын
Thank You for LoRaWAN gateway info! Sorry for your loss.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@ed.puckett
@ed.puckett 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your thoughtful videos. I am remembering Diska.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome! Indeed, she probalby had more "fans" than me ;-)
@notsonominal
@notsonominal 3 ай бұрын
Aw, so sorry to hear about the loss of Diska - purring makes everything better, even nerdy youtube videos:)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I agree!
@JCWren
@JCWren 3 ай бұрын
I've been running packet forwarders for 6 or 7 years, all pointed into a local Chirpstack instance. I use the network for custom built sensors around my house and farm. Unless I'm mistaken, if you want to set the date/time on a device from the LoRaWAN network, you'll need a GPS on the gateway. Maybe there's now support to sync the gateway with an NTP server, but I thought the 1 PPS from the GPS was required. I also haven't looked at Basic Station support yet. I'll be interested to see what this has to offer, and if it's useful as far as moving data to the Chirpstack instance.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
For your propretary network, I think there is no need to move to Basic Station. And thank you for the hint about the GPS time. However, I never cared about the time in my gateway and I always got the right time on my messages. I do not know if it comes from TTN or from the net.
@JCWren
@JCWren 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess I believe I was mistaken that GPS is required for the time. What it is required for (or was) is supporting LoRaWAN Class B devices.
@deanmarsh1452
@deanmarsh1452 3 ай бұрын
UDP forwarder should never be used in production environment. Basics Station all the way. LNS time sync is supported in 1.0.4 natively. GPS not needed
@jadus2198
@jadus2198 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss. I wish you and your family great strength.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@chipko
@chipko 3 ай бұрын
I'm only just discovering Lora (since Wifi to the garden is impractical and power hungry for my XIAO on battery and solar power!) Thank you for all your amazing content throughout the years! Thoughts go out to you and may Diska now be in cat heaven
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, if you have a big garden, LoRa is a good alternative.
@chipko
@chipko 3 ай бұрын
​@@AndreasSpiessI'm on the third floor but the garden extends quite far back. WiFi was possible at a push but power hungry for simple sensor data :)
@rickharold7884
@rickharold7884 3 ай бұрын
Awesome. We are Right in the beginning of selecting gateways. Thx!!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
So you have at least some choice...
@doejohn8674
@doejohn8674 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about Diska :(
@DivinaFarms_James
@DivinaFarms_James 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your cat. Never easy losing a family member. Your videos are very informative and I am learning a lot. Will you also include a local only, not cloud dependent discussion? I am moving as much stuff away from the cloud and primarily using Home Assistant for these type of things. Thank you again for all your videos.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Maybe I will once make a video about Chirpstack. But I support community networks like TTN a lot.
@davegasman
@davegasman 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about Diska.
@danielmuller6892
@danielmuller6892 3 ай бұрын
Sorry about Diska. Thanks for the new video.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@stefans9990
@stefans9990 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for another informative video Andreas. Looking forward to the outdoor one next week. I am a little perplexed about why I would really use Lorawan indoors? I have always found it easier and cheaper to just build sensors on an ESP32 or even an old ESP8266 and use deep sleep to compensate for the power. In most of my cases, a sensor that reports in every 2 minutes (or longer) is just fine. Plus, extending wifi has become so ubiquitous that I would imagine almost everyone here has their home area fully covered. But of course, always still an interesting topic and always appreciated that you make videos about these things. Perhaps you and other subscribers can please educate me if there is something that I am missing about Indoor Lorawan? PS: So sorry about the cat. I distinctly remember being inspired by her appearance on the catfood scale video - I think an HX711 module? RIP Diska!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I use an indoor gateway for tests. But others use it when sensors are all over the place and in difficult to reach (RF) locations. For example I heared that the Deutsche Bahn uses it in their multi-story building. Or the retailer Coop in Switzerland to survey all their refrigerators in one building (including incoming goods with LoRa temperature sensors). WiFi sensors usually need mains connection (I have quite a few of them). So Zigbee is a good thing if 2.4GHz works in your situation.
@patrickhitthaler3030
@patrickhitthaler3030 3 ай бұрын
I shall miss the cat with the Swiss purr 😢 Dishka always reminds me of my own old cat. As soon as I sit down at my desk she jumps up onto my lap, makes herself comfortable and then starts purring before falling asleep (making it impossible for me to do any work 😜 )
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
So I was happy that she slept on the desk ;-)
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Very interesting... since I'm planning to setup my gateway one of these days/weeks(months...). I plan to use an indoor model (lying around) and make it "outside" proof and powered with solar. I can't wait to see what's coming next week! So sad that your cat has passed away. Only people who have/had a pet can truly understand...
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I get a lot of comments about Dishka. Still, we knew she was old.
@VinClancy
@VinClancy 3 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Now you might have an angle looking after you.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Lets hope!
@soumitradey8208
@soumitradey8208 3 ай бұрын
Very sad to hear about Diska. Our deepest condolences. Take care. Regards
@johnlaurencepoole6408
@johnlaurencepoole6408 3 ай бұрын
Tips: When testing transmission ability, do not rely upon "cat /proc/net/wireless", instead use iperf3 (need 2 machines running iperf). Don't use cheap antennas, and don't use cheap antenna cables. I found a 10:1 performance difference between an Rpi Zero 2W inside a TICONN case vs. an external antenna via USB. I thought values from "cat /proc/net/wireless" were determinative, but found those were false flags: iperf3 tests provided an accurate performance rating.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the addititonal info. Indeed, placing antennas in the vincinity of computers is not a good idea, because they emit RFI. Iperf does not work with LoRaWAN.
@eduardocenteno3769
@eduardocenteno3769 3 ай бұрын
Another useful video! Tks. So sorry to hear about your cat. RIP
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@vaft22
@vaft22 3 ай бұрын
Diska, you were known to geeks around the world, we'll miss you. May many other RFID projects be undertaken in your honor and memory.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, she had much more fans than me ;-) Without doing a lot...
@jwshields
@jwshields 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about Diska :( But at least she had a long life! That said, thank you for the great video! I can vouch for the Mikrotik Knot device (well, anything by Mikrotik really) - My entire network stack is Mikrotik, and I have two Knots. The MT environment is wonderful, though it can take some getting used to for a lot of people. Currently I have my Knot LR9 set up as a gateway to TTN. And also just having browsed the product page for the LR8 & LR9, they both support Listen-Before-Talk
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience (and the hint about LBT).
@wjn777
@wjn777 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Very sad about Discka, I loved seeing her in your videos and she was a beautiful cat
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I agree she was good looking! We got her from the asylum and I choose her ;-)
@maxvideodrome4215
@maxvideodrome4215 3 ай бұрын
Sorry about your wonderful pet Diska. Thank you for the LoRaWAN gateway summary. I enjoy the outdoor Mikrotik ones.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience about Mikrotik!
@andreasnocker9877
@andreasnocker9877 3 ай бұрын
Great video, i have a few mikrotik Wap lr8, it has a quiet steep learning curve but it is incredible versitile. You feel like having a enterprise device for the price of a consumer electronic. I will miss Discka
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I had the same experience with Mikrotik!
@neildotwilliams
@neildotwilliams 3 ай бұрын
I converted a Sensecap Helium miner to TTN, it was on the helium deny list so nothing to lose. Works very well, has an sx1302. Sorry to hear about Diska.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I also hear that Helium gateways are decommissioned, because they do not earn the electricity they use. So maybe we will get them for cheap...
@JulioSalim
@JulioSalim 3 ай бұрын
I am very sorry about Dishka. I know her memories will warm your hearts forever.
@flames971
@flames971 3 ай бұрын
The WIO-E5 Modules delivered with the SeeedStudio Gateways are Awesome. They can handle the full LoRaWAN Stack
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I will try them.
@taoufikbadri6959
@taoufikbadri6959 3 ай бұрын
Good job, Thanks!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@johandc117
@johandc117 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that Discka is no longer. I hope good memories can ease the loss.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@XAirForce
@XAirForce 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@wildekek
@wildekek 3 ай бұрын
I purchased both the SenseCap M2 and the SenseCap LoraWan Outdoor Gateway. They are not the same product (the software features are different, not sure about the Lora chip). If you want an outdoor version of the M2, they do have an enclosure available.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Sensecap seems to be their overall brand and M2 the particular product. But since I do not have the outdoor version of the M2, I thought they just changed the case.
@dougle03
@dougle03 3 ай бұрын
Nice video. Sorry to hear about Dishka, a much loved pet I'm sure 💖 Are you looking at LoRa Meshtastic system? It's taking off over here in the UK, wondered what your thoughts are?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
If you seach on my channel, you will see that I was the first showing Meshtastic a few years back ;-)
@dougle03
@dougle03 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess That will teach me to do a search before commenting... lol - Meshtastic is taking off just now in the UK, Heltec can't keep up with the demand for their v3 boards.
@ericbwertz
@ericbwertz 3 ай бұрын
Discka, please look for my dearest ones when you get settled in to your new place, sweet friend.
@gmag11
@gmag11 3 ай бұрын
So sorry about Discka. Her soul will always be around your sensors and microcontrollers. My respect.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I am not sure she cared a lot about my work ;-) But she liked to stay in the lab.
@VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE
@VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE 3 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. For her you are are already there with her, for you she waits and will welcome you to heaven.
@javiers.8274
@javiers.8274 3 ай бұрын
Firts question would have been “What is at all a gateway?” For those of us who don’t know it is the video not that relevant. Still, Kind regards and thanks for the videos you make :D
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Many viewers on this channel know LoRa (because I made many videos about it). That is why I did not wanted to waste their time ;-)
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator 3 ай бұрын
A web search "LoRa gateway" should answer your question. There is an excellent "PlayList" on this channel covering many aspects of LoRa. kzbin.info/aero/PL3XBzmAj53Rkkogh-lti58h_GkhzU1n7U
@Junyo
@Junyo 3 ай бұрын
A very short introduction, one or two lines, of what you are talking about (what the hell Lorawan is and what it can be used for) would have been very nice. It took me half of this video to understand what the video was about.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Since there are a ton of LoRa videos on my channel, I did not want to steal the time of most viewers with an introduction :-(
@5Komma5
@5Komma5 3 ай бұрын
I hope that I can purchase the Pi HATs now. I gave up on running a LoRaWAN GW since I was not able to get a HAT with EU frequencies for over 6 months.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
They should be available now.
@MeriaDuck
@MeriaDuck 3 ай бұрын
Can you maybe one day do a comparison between LoRaWAN and Meshtastic? Or did you do one in the past and have I forgotten about that :-)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
These are very different concepts. Like apples and bananas...
@mauriceatkinson9520
@mauriceatkinson9520 3 ай бұрын
I have the RAK 7268V2 with the aim of replacing my Chirpstack server. The downside is that RAK dont provide any decoder capability. They have said for the best part of one year that they will provide a Chirpstack decoder capability but as yet the only provide Cayenne.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, that is a major flaw. So far, I did not check out this functionality.
@chuxxsss
@chuxxsss 3 ай бұрын
What happened to diskka? We lost 3 small dogs in the last few weeks. Didn't go looking for gold this weekend. Oh Andreas, I'm so sorry about your cat, all the best from Australia.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
She lost her view and did not hear anything. So she fall down the stairs. Then we decided to call the doctor.
@chuxxsss
@chuxxsss 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess We kept our diabetic dog alive for 6 years. Then when he went to more went the next month. They all lived long life's for dogs of there type.
@altamiradorable
@altamiradorable 3 ай бұрын
Thank Andreas! Good coincidence as I was exploring adding a LORa network for our company. I purchased the SeeedStudio M2 Cap Data Only but it seems not to be compatible with Helium. I also pourchaed their tracking ID card so we can track assets and employees in case of emergency. Do you have an idea on how to collect the data (Long,Lat) and display it on a custom webpage? Thanks for your great videos and help ! Danke meine frund !!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
You have to distinguish between Helium mining and using Helium as a transport for your data. The M2 should work for data transport.
@GeoffHou
@GeoffHou 3 ай бұрын
I have a few weather stations in the area that interface each with a dedicated receiver and have been wondering if those gateways would be able to also receive and handle those 868mhz signals with an antenna on the roof so that I don't need the dedicated receivers anymore.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
These stations most probably do not support LoRaWAN :-(
@OldCurmudgeon3DP
@OldCurmudgeon3DP 3 ай бұрын
Condolences on the loss of your fur-baby.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@saxpert
@saxpert 3 ай бұрын
The ttn indoor gateway is great when modifying it with an external sma port and run it with an external antenna. Takes 30min. Instructions are available on the internet.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the additional info!
@saxpert
@saxpert 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess You're welcome. Search for "hacking ttn indoor gateway" for example for English instruction. I did it myself.
@jan.8879
@jan.8879 3 ай бұрын
I bought the elecrow hat, which antenna would you recommend? I plan to build an outdoor enclosure for it. I do not have an VNA, so I cannot check if the antenna is ok. Also, R. I. P. Diska
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
One of a reputable supplier like RAK.
@ecotts
@ecotts 3 ай бұрын
Andreas, I thought the RP SMA (F) was the later way to output on wireless units / devices, and have RP SMA (M) on the antenna side. Logic behind it being you're less likely to drop a physical wireless device such as a gateway etc, so theoretically its better to have the thin pin on the equipment side (such as the gateway) than it is to have it on the antennas which we're more likely to swap out and change during fault finding, experimentation or testing so more likely to drop or have rattling about in a bag or carry case. Are you saying its better to have the pin on the antenna side using the original SMA (M)? Are you saying suggesting that so we're less likely to confuse our LoRa antennas with WiFi antennas? I know realistically it shouldn't matter either way, I'm just curious though. Thanks..
@dbrgn
@dbrgn 3 ай бұрын
As far as I know, RP-SMA was developed to prevent people from connecting SMA antennas to their devices to increase signal strength. It is similar to "security screws" like Apple's Pentalobe, or those strange triangular screws you find on power strips.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
@dbrgn is right. It was invented in the 1990 when the first Wi-Fi access points ccame to the market to prevent "stronger" antennas.
@labcat73
@labcat73 3 ай бұрын
Condolences from Amy 🐈‍⬛ and I!
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mlit83
@mlit83 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Want to build my own minimum 8ch
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 3 ай бұрын
2:30 Geolocation might not be widely used for your previously demoed usage(sending text messages) but I imagine this is a very desired feature for what LoRa would be most useful for: tracking assets(ex: public transport - offering time predictions without internet) and calling for rescue services with geolocation(ex: mountain bike helmet/regular handler computer/watch with crash detection that calls rescue services).
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Most of LoRa trackers have built-in GPS because the location of a pure LoRa system is not very precise. I heard that they do some elephant tracking in Africa with such a method. So, if battery life is important, I agree with your comment.
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 3 ай бұрын
​@@AndreasSpiess If it's not accurate, I could see a use-case where you continuously track for example the general direction of bears and switch to GPS once they get into danger areas, to alert locals or for careful monitoring.
@so4706
@so4706 3 ай бұрын
Guten Morgen und Danke, sehr interessant. 12.2x: Byte mit Bit verwechselt - aber konsistent 2x ;)
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Richtig! Danke.
@alistairgill5538
@alistairgill5538 3 ай бұрын
. . . but that (technical) mistake fully compensated by the use of perfect grammar. If you can count it, use "fewer" if you can weigh it use "less". 😉. You produce excellent videos. The comment section shows how even professionals follow your channel.
@yannkitson116
@yannkitson116 3 ай бұрын
Sorry about your cat Andreas.
@markvios29
@markvios29 2 ай бұрын
Hello there Andrea, I think that I understand that an end node can transmit to a gateway. If I set up a gateway here at home, I'm guessing I'll atach the gateway to my router. Then it can go out over the internet. Im still wondering how will it be routed over the internet? I'm wondering if I understand things properly?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 ай бұрын
Maybe you watch my LoRaWAN tutorial?
@bennob1685
@bennob1685 3 ай бұрын
Hallo Andreas, i can not found informations for Mikrotik Knot LR8 and Basic Station Support. Can you Help?
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
There is no particular info available. Just use the two links I provided (after upgrading to the newest firmware) and you will find LoRa in the IoT section. When you define the server, you can chose CUPS or LNS (both use Basic station).
@user-ov6gv3xe4z
@user-ov6gv3xe4z 3 ай бұрын
what do you suggest on connecting two devices that are at least 10km away, the place i'm trying to connect to has no wifi or GSM network.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
That depends on many things. With line of sight and low data rate. LoRa could be a solution. Otherwise probably Starlink...
@user-ov6gv3xe4z
@user-ov6gv3xe4z 3 ай бұрын
will you make a video about how to use starlink to monitor distant devices?@@AndreasSpiess
@michaelangellotti5741
@michaelangellotti5741 3 ай бұрын
😻
@pvladi
@pvladi 3 ай бұрын
What about Milesight? They have very capable gateways with built in network server and BACnet gateway for example
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I never heard of this company :-(
@zorbasj
@zorbasj 3 ай бұрын
LBT has nothing to do with 1% or 10% duty cycle. That number depends on the channel band you use. LBT refers to the CAD ability of LoRa modems.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your info.
@JohnTarbox
@JohnTarbox 3 ай бұрын
RIP Discka.
@MaurizioParodi
@MaurizioParodi 3 ай бұрын
Rip Diska che il viaggio ti sia lieve, sul ponte dell arcobaleno troverei i nostri amati pelosetti ad attenderti 😊
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Who knows what happens in this moment...
@schmidaniel
@schmidaniel 3 ай бұрын
😻😭 Herzlichs Biileid, ich fühle mit eu. Fellfründe sind die beste.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Danke!
@davidverheyen6635
@davidverheyen6635 3 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry on the loss of Diska...
@kurtrenauer
@kurtrenauer 3 ай бұрын
RIP Diska
@TheMirg90
@TheMirg90 3 ай бұрын
I was able to get SSH access to the HT-M763.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Good to know. Any tricks needed?
@TheMirg90
@TheMirg90 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess I used the following command to access the Gateway: ssh -oKexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 -oHostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-dss root@ip-from-gateway
@TheMirg90
@TheMirg90 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess My response get allway filtered.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 2 ай бұрын
@@TheMirg90 Did it include a link? Then it is removed by KZbin
@zyghom
@zyghom 3 ай бұрын
I am big proponent of "no cloud" and I like where Home Assistant goes: all local - that is why me saying: no, thank you, but no, no cloud please
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Then the gateways with an integrated Chirpstack server are a good solution, I think.
@FOTsugi
@FOTsugi 3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Diska Q.Q
@pablosoria8286
@pablosoria8286 3 ай бұрын
Diska 😢❤
@brainfornothing
@brainfornothing 3 ай бұрын
Very sorry about Dishka :/
@siberx4
@siberx4 3 ай бұрын
The people who named their server type CUPS clearly have never tried to set up a printer in Linux back in the day, or they would have avoided this obvious acronym conflict...
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I assume the two topics were considered far appart. Or they were ignorant as you say...
@nkronert
@nkronert 3 ай бұрын
😿
@ronaldglider
@ronaldglider 3 ай бұрын
OMG: this is a jungle
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
What exactly?
@ronaldglider
@ronaldglider 3 ай бұрын
@@AndreasSpiess Sali! Naja, so many devices, capabilities, functions... Thanks for your great video to show a path in the jungle..!
@calvinbrowne2126
@calvinbrowne2126 3 ай бұрын
Shame man. Condolences on your loss.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@milicsantiago
@milicsantiago 3 ай бұрын
poor Discka!
@micronetwork
@micronetwork 3 ай бұрын
Maybe not appealing right now Andreas, but sooner you get a new friend the better. The workshop will be empty without.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I agree. But because of other plans, the house will be empty till autumn when another cat from the asylum will get a new home...
@micronetwork
@micronetwork 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to see your new furry friend from the animal rescue 😀 @@AndreasSpiess
@slimhazard
@slimhazard 3 ай бұрын
Herzliches Beileid. When you‘re making critical decisions in your future projects, think of what Diska‘s opinion might have been, which often influenced the outcome in the past. That will keep her legacy alive in your lab.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
And she apears in some videos. So I can go back if I want ;-)
@Shamansdurx
@Shamansdurx 3 ай бұрын
Dear Sir, please try MIOTY base stations, they are more reliable than LoRA GW´s.
@AndreasSpiess
@AndreasSpiess 3 ай бұрын
I am looking at Mioty. However, it seems to be quite unknown.
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