Andrew Callaghan Opens Up About His New Documentary ‘This Place Rules’ | Fear&Channel5

Andrew Callaghan pulled up to go more indepth about some of the key moments in his new documentary in his first interview since the film dropped last weekend.
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0:00 Andrew Veteran of Fear& Malding returns!
1:30 Andrew drops his new documentary, he saved all the juicy info for this podcast
04:23 Stewart shoots his eye out, not in the way you’re thinking
09:43:22 Q Family
15:38 covfefe
19:31 Suburbanization
22:36 Toll of isolation on the human psyche
27:11 Andrew plays favorites in his new doc, some joker dude
33:00 Alex Jones is a piece of shit, broaching new territory
34:00 Transphobia and Joe Rogan
35:12 Advertising to children and we're already brainwashed fuck
43:01 megan thee stallion / Tory Lanez
47:02 The hardest thing Ch.5 has ever had to film EVER that’s saying a lot
54:10 Projection and deflection, this is a political podcast now sorry
57:00 Andrew Tate
1:02:22 Hasan thinks Ben Shapiro can be funny and let loose
#hasanabi #channel5 #podcast

[@aprildaeva]

what a nice young man, hopefully he has no skeletons in his closet

[@CharlesJFilmsProductions]

right? such a different viewing experience after knowing that.

[@xINSAN1TYx]

If the girl has evidence and receipts why isn’t she releasing them? She’s saying just to believe her but after the Amber Heard situation we need the evidence.

[@Summerrhead]

@@xINSAN1TYx andrew literally admitted it lol

[@user-xi6xi6di7n]

@@xINSAN1TYx Hate to break it to you, but "the Amber Heard situation" is yet another case of a female victim (who had tons of evidence) and male abuser, and luckily more and more people are slowly starting to realize that.

[@nullw8768]

@@xINSAN1TYx Andrew admitted it and it's like 4 different girls

[@lewa3910]

14:00 this is actually an amazing point about being old and just discovering the uncensored internet and becoming traumatised at older ages making you more susceptible to propaganda, lies or trolling.

[@aClownBaby-]

Yeah, that explains soooo much. I still can’t imagine how it feels to legitimately be traumatised by something on the internet. Unless they maybe discover bestgore at age 60, but pictures? Sad though

[@TheKinety]

I was gonna say the same thing. Being a part of early generation of the internet. We learned how to navigate a lot of these hoaxes and traumatic troll posting. Like scam emails/calls are a billion dollar industry cause elderly fall for it so often. Hell, I'm still extremely paranoid of clicking links. We would trick people into seeing some of the weirdest or fucked up shit as a prank. So a lot of us pioneers of the internet are jaded by the trauma dumping like Q does, and see it for what it is. A hoax. I remember seeing Jacking Chan/Undertaker die a million times on early facebook.

[@Wallasmod]

@@aClownBaby- Also, it’s not limited to gore. Older folks have been getting exposed to religious conspiracies and/or planetary alignments that signal the coming of Christ or another being. This is the type of stuff my friends and I were exposed to on the internet when we were like 10 years old. So it will take some time (hopefully not long) before older folks realize that not everything on the internet is true.

[@danielstill5625]

My dad retired and I guess that gave him a lot of time on the internet. He's massively into things like QAnon and I'm certain it's from being traumatised by stuff he's seen online. It's super irrational, definitely emotionally driven.

[@mookX92]

Trauma is without a doubt a real thing but these days it's used in so many occasions just like the word genius. It's being stripped down and hollowed out from its original meaning. Being traumatized on a micro level from seeing pictures is just a lazy way of saying that person was shocked and left a deep impression.

[@frankiebigrings7048]

im not saying they should take the ep down but it's tragically funny how poorly the comments have aged

[@9Calavera6]

just because he has allegations doesnt mean the good parts about him isnt still valid

[@SuperSaiyanScandinavian]

@@PhillColl1ns cringe

[@flygod916]

​@@9Calavera6also he admitted it so not allegations lol

[@303TAG303]

"The Storm was the friends we made along the way" ❤️

[@charlesm.2604]

FeelsStrongMan QAnon fwiends

[@tusharchetal]

I love double guest episodes!

[@Murmurrr]

Love seeing Will on the podcast. He should be a regular host!

[@IGotNoJam]

@@Murmurrr 😂

[@eliza448]

So amazing will Neff and Andrew both together x

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

The part where the little kid was spouting the Qanon stuff wasn't even funny, It's sad to see them brainwashed at such a young age

[@Smokablebirthcontrol]

It was pretty funny though.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

@@Smokablebirthcontrol Depends on how you look at it, He might grow up to be one of those militia types

[@Smokablebirthcontrol]

@@TihetrisWeathersby those guys are pretty funny though. Have you seen Stuart Rhodes?

[@swaan1312]

@@TihetrisWeathersby so u havent seen the whole movie lol

[@super6070]

@@TJXD no one is doing that dawg

[@KennyFlagg]

“A lot of ppl can’t handle a mirror” Just damn. This man’s humble. Stoked to see the doc.

[@yeehaw3792]

This man is a rapist. Typical leftist timeline

[@TheDominitri]

and Andrew's one of them 💀

[@TheDominitri]

@@xINSAN1TYx cope.

[@AbsentMinded619]

Oof.

[@aldojoel4836]

@@xINSAN1TYx except he already admitted to it, so we won't

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Just finished the documentary, Andrew has an eye for finding these places when these people meet up

[@ultimatetacoparty]

I took a course on us vs them mentality last semester and it really gave me insight on how andrew conducts himself in interviews, everything he does is necessary to ending polarization

[@koloblican11763]

"Getting married sounds tight, if you're in love." Hell ya Andrew haha.

[@bluepurplepink]

No shot y’all had Will as a guest on Fear&, that’s amazing.

[@SliverOfSilverStars]

The talk about projection was particularly interesting, especially in light of the recent allegations. Honestly I don't know anything about this Andrew guy and I have no real investment in him. I just recently heard about him because I saw a psychologist react to his apology video. I hope the victims get justice. This entire conversation did have some really good points though: finding some empathy in people being brainwashed and preyed upon with culture wars (especially old, media illiterate people and young children caught up in the beliefs of their parents). Thinking more about the isolation in western society. And how there does seem to be so much projection within these political communities, I would assume because a lot of these people do not go through enough healing, introspection, or loads of therapy to help process trauma or be challenged in their beliefs. Interesting Also this country needs better health and mental health care so bad. Like not saying that would magically fix so many of our problems... but like let's just fuck around and find out??

[@magi3776]

So glad Will could fill in for QT Cinderella this week❤️

[@magi3776]

But honest tho I just hope to see her on every week

[@devonwilliams2423]

@@magi3776 ​Same before every podcast I check the thumbnail for QT, a woman on this podcast adds a whole different dynamic Especially QT, since she pits hella effort into just about everything she does

[@sejtbrugernavn]

The first podcast with Andrew actually introduced me to Hasan and Will

[@hannibalb8276]

Same

[@Frank7489]

Same

[@deagle2yadome696]

congrats none of you will ever be able to go back to the time before you knew who hassan is.

[@cameronmirochnik8399]

same bro

[@cameronmirochnik8399]

@@deagle2yadome696 thank god didn't he say he was going to perform the next 9/11 during that time, I dodged a bullet

[@onlyabdelix]

WELP... THIS IS AWKWARD

[@cinna4462]

i wonder how andrew feels having such a natural talent for showing off real people and their situations… he and his team are the realest people out there rn

[@codymoore6765]

This was such a great pod ep. I was captivated from start to finish. These three guys are great individually, but together, amazing.

[@EdLrandom]

things changed a lot for Andrew this week

[@Justin84319]

Andrew's ability for compassion is really inspiring

[@nicolec1806]

weird they didn’t ask the other guest any questions 😂

[@grandmawitch]

Grateful for people like him, I don’t have the fortitude anymore. I wish he could talk to my dad 😅

[@dstycs4412]

@@nicolec1806 Are you referring to Will? 🤣

[@nicolec1806]

@@dstycs4412 yes😹 glad someone got it

[@system0fadowner251]

Yeah, his empathy is his greatest strength by far. He legit cares about people, and it opens up many of these nutters that might otherwise just write him off as part of the msm cabal.

[@srinivas964]

the discourse a @ 31:00 shows how empathetic Andrew is and when he says "A lot of people can't handle a mirror" ... it just hits different

[@srinivas964]

@@pppppoopppppsks well we 'll get to know how he handles a mirror ... I'm contemplating removing the comment

[@acemyname]

@@srinivas964 😬

[@rosapaga1776]

@@srinivas964 Nah, leave it. We all felt the same about him. What a shame

[@Culled]

The leader of the proud boys being a grifter, bragging about it, and the proud boy’s loving him for it… while believing him. Is just. Wow

[@lauderdale77]

Exactly. There are literally saying they do this for the money and zero people care. From the rapper to him.

[@julie91295]

As someone who didn’t have enough context, the phrase “joker gang and gum gang were fighting and I was the referee” is jsut so wild

[@Freewill415]

they need to bring this Will guy back on the podcast more often!

[@handfulloftrash]

The guy who didn’t even watch the documentary that the podcast is about?

[@comradecordell4856]

@@handfulloftrash tbf, he only just recovered from his tragic self-sucking accidents.

[@arouris4374]

@@handfulloftrash shut. He is will, address him as such

[@blkkatemoss]

He was good lol I almost didn’t watch because he looks like such a douche but he’s funny and surprisingly insightful and was able to add to the conversation even without seeing the doc

[@TheHeadlets]

@@handfulloftrash The doco literally came out the morning of this podcast being recorded he didn't have time.

[@626spencer]

I would like to let everyone know they forgot about Felix from chapo also being on both iterations of the pod lmao

[@jokerwick]

All I wanna be is el chapo

[@bertos456]

This was such a good episode. Great discussions and it didn't feel like anyone didn't get to say their piece. Also, I love that you added chapters!

[@Gunbudder]

I hope people learn that its wrong to pressure women into sex

[@laceybabay1013]

Yeah, I hope so too. Twitter, as usual, had a lot of people that were very confused about how pressuring people is a problem. It’s disheartening.

[@AnthonyDoesYouTube]

Stupid people are seriously an issue, point blank period. Majority of users on Twitter could not define the word "coercion" if their lives depended on it. . .

[@sandworm9528]

Maybe women need to learn how to say no. No means no. Yes doesn't mean no...seriously grow up

[@DearyLeary]

Andrew is a national treasure.

[@moqo]

Love him so much. NGL though I am constantly worried for his safety

[@GuttTruck]

I came down here to say the same lol

[@ogvamp]

he is not lol

[@FirstPersonNewf]

facts

[@Dennis_The_Peasant]

That's my favorite movie

[@loliganz]

incredible episode!! thank you

[@PatG563]

Hasan doesn't talk about his Urbanist view enough. The suburbanization of the US has led to a lot of the issues of division and isolation that Americans are feeling. Urbanism is the best way to create culture and mutual understanding.

[@mightbemojo]

holy shit this could be one of my favourite episodes ive ever seen. thank you so so so much andrew hassy (guest will) and the crew

[@yungster_rick]

this aged HORRIBLY

[@haroldbon9732]

Absolutely legendary episode, and I'm so glad Will was a part of it

[@newtagwhodis4535]

Couldn’t agree more 👌🏼

[@tyleredge5349]

"You gotta be careful with eyepatch talk"🤣🤣🤣 a true fan.

[@jamiemcdonaldisjamie]

hasan and will - you both killed it. such a natural flow of convo.

[@middle_pickup]

Let's go, Andrew! Looking forward to seeing his next project.

[@Chafmere]

Can't wait to sit down and Watch.

[@cameronf6366]

With all the SA allegations against Andrew coming out, really tough to see his work with this looming. 🤕

[@brittneyholcomb3478]

what?

[@aldojoel4836]

@@brittneyholcomb3478 SA allegations came up against Andrew from multiple women, and he has admitted to them

[@sandworm9528]

To be clear, she gave consent and regretted it later. In my book that sucks for both of them I'm sure Andrew wouldn't want to hook up with someone who was gonna regret it. Not SA though, just life

[@trayhl]

47:05 Just want to add that I am here for the first time listening to this podcast because of Andrew Callaghan and his documentary.

[@danielleolson2645]

Truly an amazing figure in journalism!! Big thank you for what you’re doing Andrew

[@pinkmenace2452]

looking at how adored he is in these comments and wow man really threw his whole career away just so he could coerce women into sex. so pathetic.

[@elleclaire]

Amazing. The part about guns and suicide really hit home, my boyfriend and I had a friend in highschool who was mentally ill and killed himself with a gun when he was on drugs. He was otherwise a lovely happy guy, he shouldn’t have had such easy access to a gun. He was just a kid who was out of his mind over a breakup. He had so much left to live for.

[@spacecatet1754]

Andrew's certainty of what he would do if he owned a gun made me so sad. I can relate to not being able to trust myself with a firearm.

[@mi5anthrope]

No one chooses to exist, you have no consent in that. Suicide is never a bad thing because you're making the choice to reverse a decision that was thrust upon you. Having a kid is infinitely worse than killing yourself.

[@maybemablemaples2144]

Yeah I can also say if I had access to a gun last year....I'm just glad I brought myself back from the brink. Guns are really driving us insane.

[@spacecatet1754]

@@maybemablemaples2144 I'm glad you decided to stick around ❤️

[@corduroycola]

similar story here - my ex shot himself with a gun at a shooting range. i wish it wasn't so easy for people to have access to something to lethal so easily. maybe he would still be here

[@organicgrains]

So glad to see his genius recognized at this level. Andrew is doing a public service. Seeing this type of journalism gives me hope for the future, even more so when he gets dragged into a CNN interview and can so easily sniff out their tactics and rebut like a pro. Absolutely excellent film!

[@liamj3163]

Great episode!

[@aweshumandy]

what a damn banger. I wish the best for Andrew and future works!

[@NoneedforAname69]

Will Neff looks like he is a 90's inline skater and I'm here for it.

[@rainbowmonkMC]

31:20 - Andrew says "Not everyone can handle a mirror" -- how will he handle the one being shown of him now?

[@TheDominitri]

apparently looking in the mirror put him in the psych ward lmao

[@chillarypuff]

This was such a great episode

[@Cendoria]

Nice to see Will back as a guest again

[@chomskyismyhomeboi3509]

Fantastic pod! Y'all are dope

[@blueberrykissel]

Such a good episode!! ❤️

[@kalebnorman235]

Andrew is so down to earth and real with actual impressions on life, based on experience. He is truly next level. He is 10 moves ahead and thinking way further than most, willing to go to the extreme.

[@meowmasterL346]

I'm sure he used that big brain thinking to manipulate who knows how many women to performing sex acts against their will too.

[@kalebnorman235]

@@meowmasterL346 ok bot.

[@meowmasterL346]

@@kalebnorman235 what, you tryna tell me he DIDN'T commit sexual harassment? 😂😂😂 evidence would speak for itself but I'm all ears for your take then lmao

[@303TAG303]

good convo

[@Pabloxhoney]

Fav episode so far, good job guys

[@donnylurch4207]

The very end made me *cackle,* dude! I won't give it away, but you're in for a treat with this doc.

[@under-._.-score]

The end revelation brings so much context on a second watch. Hats off to Andrew/Nick/Evan.

[@andtheghosts7627]

Matt Walsh seems like the kind of roommate who would drink all of your milk, replace it with watered down glue, then accuse you of drinking his milk.

[@TndrTwn]

Love the "would you rather" bit at the end 🤣

[@Bitcrushed]

I'm gonna get HBO to watch the doc tonight, great ep

[@lilpopstar128]

such a good interview never seen your channel but both of the hosts are great

[@coldercoronet6248]

Check out hasanabi’s stream too. He has some clips with Andrew. He’s the guy on the far left.

[@jennthelen4721]

I'm just gonna go ahead and watch this again because it was that good

[@xh3NNIN9x]

I fucking cried at the end at the "Failed Life" Part. That is so goddamn true. And sad.

[@Ajay0714]

will neff guest staring episodes are my fav

[@mmc81821]

I loved your discussion on the importance of empathy in all of this. Like you mention, I think that it’s important for us to take a step back and recognize that we are products of our environments and that social reinforcers shape/determine our behavior (can’t also forget the role in which neurobiology influences behavior). As someone who got their phd in behavioral neuroscience, I don’t believe in free will. I personally believe that our tendency to ascribe free will as the cause of behavior, leads us to ignore the contingencies which actually select it. This ultimately prevents us from practicing empathy and reduces the likelihood of helping and communicating with others who we label as “wrong” or “amoral”. At the end of the day, there aren’t bad people, just bad environments and/or abnormal neurobiological functioning.

[@llsilvertail561]

This right here is the episode that's gotten me the closest to subscribing to y'all's Patreon.

[@srwarner3346]

Andrew is maturing at an astounding rate , damn son , just so stoked to see younger generations producing STELLAR individuals , alls yah alls , good young men ! Keep after it !

[@audiaudiaudi]

Great episode, Andrew is the man. Will asked some really good questions.

[@Katianie9]

Amazing Episode, Will, Hasan, and Andrew are amazing

[@applejuiceism]

love this group of people !! such good chemistry !!

[@OGJohnDuck]

haha good one hasan we know its you

[@JesusRR78]

Awesome episode.

[@ChadwickRider]

Excellent documentary. Actual on-scene reporting.

[@lowkeybruja]

34:43 why is this moment so adorable and pure

[@bennettsnyder315]

Will: some people here are meeting you for the first time Andrew: I highly doubt it Me: whistles non-chalantly

[@r3so1ute]

First time watching because of Andrew, impressed by Will's takes.

[@newtagwhodis4535]

Andrew, you’re freaking awesome man, I’m so glad you share your talents and finally got the exposure you totally deserve. Thank you for everything you do, keep on that good fight and have a great 2023. Best to you and your fam. Likewise, Hasan and Will, you guys are dope too. Keep up the stellar content, can’t wait to see the next chapters ahead👍🏼happy New Year!

[@fourthpanda]

Don't look up Andrew's name on Google rn... 😭

[@newtagwhodis4535]

@@fourthpanda I think he’s actually genuinely trying to learn and become a better man. Which is as much as a one can hope for. I feel for the victims but I think there is a path forward in retribution and forgiveness so everyone can grow from the outside peeping into that situation. It’s not like any articles are going to do that, just show in your face drama not productively striving to better people’s behavior. One can hope it reaches people who look up to him which is rightfully many folks.

[@fourthpanda]

@@newtagwhodis4535 we will just to see how it goes because at the moment he hasn't done any rehabilitation. I hope he can rehabilitate yes.

[@alicadams3289]

The kids from Atlanta who just want to see their family again will forever be burned into my memory, we need some massive changes

[@Frank7489]

Best guest ever. Andrew was pretty good too

[@Pimpmobile345]

what an ep. best one yet 100%!

[@roundskyer127]

Such a great episode love Andrew

[@hasmothe5th]

you dont know...

[@TheShadowsoftheDead]

We in it yet again with the best podcast in the game. And Will made it back. The self-suck accidents can't keep ya boi down.

[@kelreneegranger]

Andrew's empathy is so great.

[@hasmothe5th]

he doesnt know...

[@ogrewatch6725]

Yeah empathy for Epstein

[@gwenmh]

The end is the best patreon promo you could’ve done lol

[@hernandezmedia]

The very best interview with Andrew I've seen after the movie. Not trying to box him in politically. Not trying to incriminate his open-minded interviewing philosophy. Not accusing him of being a right-winger for being a lefty questioning the validity of legacy media. Just discussing issues with him. Good shit.

[@silverjetplane]

Will is my favorite guest on the podcast

[@LMarti13]

What Will is talking about with regards to Joe Rogan is called pragmatic implicature and it's what misinformation pundits exploit ALL the time. Basically not outright stating something but heavily/vaguely implying it.

[@kiraanastasiaandersen1145]

Incredible episode

[@ATLGAMER47]

Loved it Andrew! Recommended to all my friends.

[@pounceysilverkitten]

Will really adds an insightful touch to this. I am glad he is back

[@Looch1717]

You gotta be kidding me. He felt extremely out of place, interruptet a lot, hasnt watched the docu, laughing at all the wrong places, said some really weird shit. Here is one quote he said; "The problem is not that kids are consuming sex - but that we make them feel like there should be guilt about it" - Will Neff

[@akaku9]

It gives me chills every time I see Andrew flex his superhuman levels of compassion for his fellow man.

[@akaku9]

@@pppppoopppppsks Lol stop

[@rainbowmonkMC]

@@akaku9 Stop what? speaking truth to the situation? is andrews level of compassion for 'his fellow man' only applies to men? LOL

[@akaku9]

@@rainbowmonkMC You really nailed it bud

[@1877Alex]

that patron episode teaser won me over, im subbing to the patreon haha

[@neuIyn]

I watched it last night, so amazing.

[@alexsparzak9102]

I just finished watching the documentary when this podcast came out

[@Piratevirus]

I am glad that I watched the documentary before watching this podcast

[@x.Aura.x]

Love the fit aesthetic in this one boys ✨️

[@RuinedItRandy]

If Andrew did write about the Oath Keepers, i would most certainly purchase a copy of that. Great ep!

[@katiecat59]

Dudes, I'm from AZ! My boyfriend family is killing me! On Christmas, his sister gave their step mom an Alex Jones book... Then, when I watched Andrew's documentary and saw Alex Jones supplement line, one of the bottles looks too familiar... sure enough, my bf sister has also gifted him one of AJs testosterone supplements! I had previously told him that he didn't need testosterone. We are 27, and if anything, you should see a doctor before taking it. The moment I saw it was an Alex Jones supplement and not FDA approved, that shit went straight in the trash! 😩 Helps me...

[@wisdomcoffee]

Why is the sister only giving Alex Jones stuff as gifts lmao😂worst gift giver ever!

[@jasonetchingham9587]

“Getting married sounds tight if your in love” that was deep dude

[@nateb6241]

The thought. How long can I keep this UP... CONGRATULATIONS.

[@scraunched_]

Loved this episode, as one does.

[@donjon5704]

Love the timestamps!

[@brain_melt]

Another incredible episode of my favorite non-political podcast, cheers