Andrew Tangles w/ a TikToker About the Definition of "Illegal"

[@tjhartley2599]

The amount of confidence it takes to be that stupid is hilarious

[@chad480906]

It's almost worse that there's people out there that think he's right. 😂

[@MrMuaythai84]

@@chad480906 democrats

[@NonAbidingDude]

I often envy the oblivious, they have such a simple life. No reaearch, no attaining the ability of critical thiught...must be bliss to do exactly what the Gub ment an media tell you do do!

[@chad_hominem]

@@NonAbidingDude Life is easy when you're dumb as dirt.😂

[@TheChristPillFlock]

​@@NonAbidingDudeAin't that the truth.

[@wanjohikuria6715]

These progressives are insane

[@user-kcrpine]

They’re not progressive just as those everyone calls liberal today are illiberal by definition. They’re all just establishment shills so propagandized they exist in a safe space fantasyland.

[@jutsu1]

And they have power.

[@PhunnyMunny]

All progressives are insane

[@iambob6590]

According to the Progressive. A serial killer has done nothing against the Law (illegal) if they are never caught.

[@WielkaStopa-qh1rr]

Adolf H. was never charged and convicted.

[@MoodyFoody-fb9xe]

The hoops people will jump through to protect illegal immigration lol

[@younggeezer8232]

Trump was never proven guilty

[@nebwachamp]

Biden 2024 lgbt pride We suck dick

[@user-kcrpine]

Deemed guilty, never proven. Big difference for sure and regardless of what the prevailing narrative wants us to believe.

[@michaelkoniowsky]

Maga🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅

[@miletello1]

Never proven guilty of a felony…but he has all but admitted to the misdemeanor false records. Those scumbags in manhattan managed to play the most extreme mental gymnastics to turn it into 34 felonies. Total bullshit

[@junkaccount2535]

I am still in confusion about what the charges even are. I get that it has to do with paying stormy daniels supposed hush money for sleeping with her, but aside from the fact that you could argue that to be prostitution and currently heresay because we have no evidence that it happened, the payment itself to stop someone from disparaging your name isn't inherently wrong or illegal.

[@jonglenister8140]

if there's no crime until a court proves you guilty then police officers would not be able to make arrests.

[@chriswalsh6893]

Stop using logic and common sense. That’s not what this guy is here for.😂

[@scuffedryangosling4264]

This is why voter restriction is necessary

[@someone-ke4qj]

It's the media more then the people and public schools the way colleges are set up. Have to be careful there too because someone else controls who votes as well.

[@miletello1]

Debating someone that is either intellectually dishonest or logically inconsistent is impossible. It’s like trying to play a chess match with different rules for each player.

[@jsharp9735]

Great for exposing them to a third party that can think logically though.

[@leradmuiel7634]

Well thank God it’s for the audience and to show them how ridiculous someone is being. Remember you ain’t trying to change their mind but the people watching you.

[@ReformedBrant]

I really think this guy is just dumb

[@miletello1]

@@leradmuiel7634 agreed…I wasn’t saying we shouldn’t get to witness Andrew destroy people. I was just speaking from similar experiences

[@thelastheteroincali]

And in this case with this guy it's typical lying Marxism

[@ruminating1596]

Andrew is exposing America one Tik Tok at a time and it's disturbing. People will say my language is being extreme, but let's be real, these people vote and voice their opinion to THOUSANDS on their platform. This country is cooked.

[@NonAbidingDude]

All designed, implemented, and maintained by Ch1na. Meanwhile, their kids are doing sports, science, math and cooking food on their version of t1kTok

[@demaistre2458]

​@@NonAbidingDudeChina? Guess you forgot all the bergs and steins running about in literally every major part of deciding all of our fates

[@TommyGunz327]

@@demaistre2458 You get it. China is just a distraction/ scapegoat. The tribe is good at that

[@Xeno_Solarus]

​@@demaistre2458 He's talking about TikTok. He's owned by and run by the Chinese government. It's literally a tool they are using to cause disorder in America, not there wasn't in the first place, but it's not helping.

[@demaistre2458]

@Xeno_Solarus The Chinese don't keep track of the demographic decline of native Europeans. The Chinese aren't openly calling for our end. Our concern are the ones who ACTUALLY decide our fates, who I promise aren't Chinese

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

So this guy doesn't consider his dinner to be food until he begins eating

[@HellonearthlABB]

😂

[@colegadohiphoptuga]

Wrong, it is not food until one poops it 😉 then you can say "the dinner was tasty"

[@zacharymorris9917]

This guy makes someone in a coma look hyper-intelligent.

[@younggeezer8232]

This is the same type of people that say that Trump was guilty before he even got charged. It's the same argument either way.

[@anthonycampos8057]

Don't they also say the same about Biden?

[@TommyGunz327]

@@anthonycampos8057 Ashely Biden admitted that what was written in her diary is 100% true. Biden’s own son calls him ped0 Joe as a nickname.. also we know for a FACT that then Biden family has been using Ukraine to launder money. Many of these things came out in Hunter Biden’s emails.

[@carloscruz1285]

​@@anthonycampos8057 technically no. People knew Trump did nothing wrong due to lack of evidence and then from all the court cases evidence showed he did nothing wrong. With Biden, people know he's committed crimes due to evidence and then if he went to court that evidence would be used in those cases and if we went according to the letter of the law then he would in fact be found guilty. Same thing with Hillary Clinton. There are paper trails and witnesses including other physical evidence such as having a separate personal server housing official government information on it which is illegal. It's kind of hard to erase the fact that with Trump it's taken them years to try and stick some penal code to him to finally find him guilty as to where if it was Biden or Clinton the penal codes that were violated would be obvious and wouldn't take years to convict. There wouldn't need to be a search party going back all their lives to come up with something illegal they did.

[@Sentinel82]

​@@anthonycampos8057 Yeah but there is actual evidence and a crime that has been committed with Biden.

[@enzo_2417]

@@anthonycampos8057 Joe much like his son records his unlawful conduct. MSM and the justice department ignore it. Like the Ukraine prosecutor Joe gloated about getting fired to news reporters or no billion dollars for Ukraine.

[@ExtremelyRightWing]

This guy makes destiny look like a genius.

[@mantiscoregaming6699]

Underrated comment

[@silenttitan416]

The most disappointing thing about destiny, is he's actually very inyelligent. He's just indoctrinated.. you can be intelligent and stupid at the same time. Look at all these "educated" people coming out of university's. They are or have the capacity for high intelligence but they have all been indoctrinated and taught to be stupid.

[@mantiscoregaming6699]

@silenttitan416 stupid cannot be intelligent. To be stupid means you know what's correct but chose false anyway. These ppl don't know they're wrong. They defend the wrong, and they justify the wrong. In the face of correct. Education is nothing but indoctrination. That's the way public school has always been. Since it was really invented by the dark triad families. They're not stupid or even ignorant. They're moronic, they're simply too stupid to know they're stupid. Therfore they cannot be intelligent. Intelligence is having decernment. They simply do not.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

Destiny is smart and he mostly has good arguments. You wouldn't last a minute confronting him you donkey lol. There's a huge difference between saying I strongly disagree with Destiny and Destiny is dumb.

[@drew3865]

@@silenttitan416 He's irrational.

[@douglasgregory418]

The smartest democrat.

[@TommyGunz327]

And he still has a room temperature IQ

[@David_Vander_Vliet]

😂 He probably is!

[@karsaorlong3761]

lol

[@AnimalAlmighty]

lmfao

[@entonbray]

@@TommyGunz327 if that temperature is measured in celsius

[@tjblackmore7863]

He’s worse than destiny! Deliberately obtuse, intellectually dishonest and pedantic.

[@seanfenrir]

It's like talking to a brick wall. Holy...

[@polywomple]

Don't insult brick walls like that

[@bradblades4245]

This is the definition of "bad faith" argument

[@inquisitor4635]

This guy believes if you break into a house and rob it that it is not illegal until you get charged for it as a crime. 😂

[@shawnm1902]

This is how you arrive at squatters functionally stealing homes from people.

[@CalculatedRisk]

He's so confident he's right, too. What a doosh.

[@darshangoswami1294]

Forget him being a "constitution absolutist", he's just dishonest and bad faith

[@ItsMatDo]

I know, you could tell immediately this dude from the get-go is just arguing for the sake of arguing instead of actually listening and responding with reason. It's like they think they're in a permanent battle and conceding a point hurts their ego so much they'd rather argue instead of actually pursuing truth & logic.

[@CalculatedRisk]

@@ItsMatDo And the thing is he is 100% wrong too. He was totally trolling - not interested at all in debating.

[@michaellowe2305]

If someone kills someone, then goes to court and found "not guilty " , would they then no longer have killed someone?

[@shawnm1902]

With how that airhead phrased his argument, the dead person clearly must rise from the grave following the not guilty verdict. He can't distinguish from proof of crime associated with the individual in order to enact a punishment and identifying that a crime is in progress. Conviction is only the circus that's required to enact punishment. The crime exists separately from that.

[@jeremeylochridge7911]

This is a specific type of stupid I didn’t think I’d ever encounter.

[@dw6015]

1 minute in its obvious there's some serious brain damage with baseball cap guy.

[@daveb8679]

Is this how this progressive thinks he knows so much about the border? He misdefines words? Brilliant

[@kelticslob]

If a tree falls in the woods and a judge has not ruled that a sound was made then we must assume sound does not exist

[@gilbertnorum4366]

Coper: "I'm here for a civil conversation, but if you are going to destroy my arguments, I will ban you."

[@OldScratch81]

He’s pulling sh!t out of his gunt , I can smell it from Canada 😂

[@samson5791]

Im glad you posted this video to show everyone how crazy these people are.

[@russb8291]

I cannot defend myself against someone who is assaulting me until they have been charged and convicted.

[@melly92]

Andrew needs to bring up jury nullification.

[@younggeezer8232]

American citizen show ID when they're coming in what are you talking about

[@ruminating1596]

I think he was trying to argue that on a SUPER rare occasion, Americans might sneak over the border into Mexico or Canada without due process. So he would then say "Should they be in jail" or something like that. But 1. That's extremely rare vs the contrary and 2. Uhh yes! If you break the law, you pay the price. It was a terrible argument and he immediately folded because he refused to let Andrew even try to address it.

[@NowioFel]

Even if not, after they get in they can confirm their legal ID

[@gregorygant4242]

Andrew is the most logical, smartest, decent, honest guy I have ever seen on the net. He knows how to argue , debate , talk without becoming emotional with anybody. And he's a deeply religious , Christian man with virtues , he's not corruptible in any shape or form. His wife is a very lucky woman having a man like that beside her. I f!ckin love this guy !

[@BrutusDog424242]

God bless you Andrew. I couldnt argue with these idiots. They dont have any sense whatsoever.

[@bp5ll]

this guy is professionally regarded

[@evbbjones7]

Andrew: Can you answer the question sir? Weirdo TikToker: *drops Andrew* I'm here for a civil conversation... Literally could not have asked for a more civil and rational person to debate with, lmao.

[@Tokolos]

It’s one way you can always spot a narc, projecting without fail. Passive aggressive covert control freaks)

[@CaryGrant-qy5gj]

Homeboy is conflating illegal with guilty. Burglary is illegal regardless if anyone has committed a burglary. If someone breaks into my home, do I need the burglar to be found guilty to say that they did something illegal? My first hand eye witness may not be enough evidence to convict said burglar, but I don't need to with hold my judgement that the burglar did something illegal until he is found guilty in court.

[@Puchicano]

I'll never understand the progressive logic, anything nonsensical seems to always be what they advocate for. My state of California is the perfect example of their ideas in motion. High taxation, overly regulated, decline in rule of law, civilian safety no longer a concern. A vagabonds paradise.. Smh

[@TommyGunz327]

The problem is they either don’t understand logic or they just ignore it when it suits their goals and agenda.

[@stevendouglas3781]

They’re evil. Very easy to understand.

[@stevendouglas3781]

They’re just evil, bro.

[@brelanarchy8023]

Dunning-Kruger effect on display.

[@chadiverson3796]

The progressive sounds like he's thick, Andrew wins...

[@arthurloux6438]

He is a progressive, sounds about right from what he is saying. It is all a bunch of idiotic talk.

[@geoffreyfield6686]

That was hard to watch.

[@craigo6808]

This guy is a perfect encapsulation of the modern “progressive”… says alot of words to obfuscate any premise to sound smart but is in fact quite unintelligent

[@a-atheist]

4:06 "it could have been in the heat of passion." WRONG. According to this TikToker that would ONLY be true if he was found guilty of doing that in a court of law. Otherwise it didn't happen. The COURT system defines if something happened or not. If this man was actually graped, and the person graped went to court and was found not guilty, well it didn't happen. He cant be guilty of doing something "in the heat of passion." In the united states were innocent until proven guilty. What. A. Douche.

[@michaellowe2305]

My jaw has been dropping since 30 seconds into this video

[@Vanadinit3]

Is this guy short bus? Holy crap....

[@Raisen476]

He definitely is.😂

[@Garmanarnar2000]

Probably

[@LukeSchmidt89]

Ticktock is literally brain rot

[@Garmanarnar2000]

True

[@rickymetzenbomb7548]

My god these people are so easy to defeat their logic. Thank you Andrew for exposing idiots.

[@frankseu]

Someone goes on a killing spree, but evades capture their entire life. By this genius's logic he did not do anything illegal because they never got him convicted in court. So braindead

[@DaRay814]

4:02 ok, let's say they are on film unaliving someone, the justice system decides not to prosecute. THEY HAVE STILL HAVE COMMITED A CRIME!

[@duncanmugambi6213]

I am a progressive and no he hasnt because adversarial contest and court of law and innocent until proven guilty...

[@seanfenrir]

Yup. Happens all the time, every single day. Hell, that's the reason people called O.J Simpson a murderer even though he was acquitted.

[@chickenfarmer209]

he is so mad

[@BrayzenBull]

03:00 just looking at his social Media from 2015-20 and see if he was against Police Brutality even when these cops weren't convicted.

[@clubbedsandwich1128]

What is this guy's tik tok? I want to go get banned. Lol

[@karsaorlong3761]

that clown tiktoker got so butthurt and triggered when realized he lost lol

[@Apollyon2119]

This kid has no "experience" at the border. I live in El Paso, TX and at the fore front of all these things. To say "illegal" is incorrect becasue they haven't been "properly vetted or pronounced illegal by a judge" is stupidity. These immigrants are crossing over in places where there is not an "official point of entry." That act in itself indicates that they are crossing without proper "vetting/documentation" or else why would they be crossing elsewhere other than an official point of entry. Hence the word illegal!!!

[@ryanw5569]

Could this guy be more smug while also acting in such bad faith?

[@burger3856]

This dude’s constant appeal to the constitution is just making the constitution sound unreasonable

[@urgandma]

Purposely obtuse, he's effectively winking with every word... "Yeah they aren't guilty *wink* they haven't been charged *wink*" These people have voting power.

[@tacoman2064]

Why even debate someone like that. I don’t have patience to walk a grown man through a simple hypothetical

[@maxkane9276]

Andrew Wilson appears to be the only person on the internet with any brain cells left. How does he have the patience to argue with these idiots every day?

[@adammoke8949]

Why does he have to make a question so complicated, right because it blows up his entire narrative

[@ilias856]

Most intelligent progressive.

[@alecackling189]

I refuse to believe Andrew isn’t hiring trolls for content creation

[@Byhookorbycrook1776]

So I was not in fact speeding unless it was proven in court regardless of what the speedometer indicated? What an idiot.

[@MrMuaythai84]

he a problem to why we have illegals and criminals all over the country.

[@John19-30]

What’s scary is this guy will potentially one day be on a jury.

[@MeoSter10]

In the SA scenario, you intervened and stopped the abuser because the action was.....illegal

[@Cuh901]

Innocent until proven guilty but still have to sit in prison until you’re actually proven innocent

[@austinl5158]

Bro just answered every question with something completely irrelevant. He was having a whole other conversation lmao.

[@dosu1018]

You cant arrest me officer, i haven’t been convicted of the crime yet. So its not illegal -this guys logic

[@saltyarmy541]

Handle it?? Shiiii you're the one who couldn't handle it! 🤣

[@Itsmy2cent]

In reality the court is designed for innocent people, so you can’t be wrongly convicted. THUS if someone unalives someone for no reason in public, and a judge was there, cops, other witnesses, it was caught on camera, and the guy after UA living the person says “I unalived this person”, then court or no court he did something illegal and is guilty. The court is just basically going to rubber stamp that and sentence. Doesn’t mean he’s innocent until proven guilty. So this guys argument about the courts and “innocent until proven guilty” is absurd. He knows the answer he just refuses to concede. People like this can never be trusted

[@homedepotindustrialfan936]

12 minutes of a guy unable or unwilling to distinguish between the objective fact of one’s criminal status and the reasonable case made to determine their guilt. Innocence is objectively not the same as presumed innocence.

[@The1776er]

Are lefties capable of understanding a hypothetical? Andrew can dumb it down to a child's level and they still don't understand.

[@blake-nw4pd]

According to this genius someone can shit their pants, but until a doctor determines that it is actually human feces from the asshole of the person who is wearing said pants than you cannot reasonably determine that said person shit their pants.

[@thechunkycajun]

I've debated this dude. The minute I made him look stupid he booted me

[@jasoncassel5502]

This guy is dumb.

[@michaelruiz1645]

This is why we need a test before you vote

[@lizafrench8455]

One is persumed innocent till proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. Court is there to prove who is responsible for said crime.

[@nelsoncamachotirado6967]

Bad faith TikToker.

[@lescobrandon9539]

He knows your right just too stubborn to admit it.

[@okedoge]

Cant help but bring up trump out of no where 😂😂

[@TheUzamaki1234]

10:26 UNO REVERSE CARD ACTIVATED 💀

[@ramonesly4930]

Check the live comments when he gets kicked, they’re all saying L host 😂😂

[@spykatt]

Smug and stupid is *not* a good combo.

[@JustinSailor]

He is taking "innocent until proven guilty" to literally. It's like with "all men are created equally" both are how the law should treat you. They are moral statements.

[@OnlyObserving-c6b]

Andrew dismantles another low-energy beta lib.

[@XDWX]

I'm so sick of these gas lighters

[@mileshamblen9982]

So by his logic it's ok to break laws as long as we don't get convicted of our actions? Zero integrity and zero accountability.

[@junosynth]

Pretty much. Lol. Not only that but your not doing something illegal until you go through a trial.

[@vanessa-8375]

Wow! 😂 If the act is not illegal in the first place, you can't be charged (and found guilty).

[@grimsolace4433]

Does “progressive” mean slow in 2024? Guy should stick to playing with marbles.

[@mikeloudin36]

I've never seen someone take an L so hard. W Andrew.

[@shanenolan5625]

If they are an American citizen they cant be illegal.

[@WielkaStopa-qh1rr]

Even if, this would not change legality of trespassers.

[@shanenolan5625]

@@WielkaStopa-qh1rr hmm

[@gurgamous]

As a dude, there is nothing more cringe than another dude who calls himself progressive

[@chad_hominem]

This guy is certified helmet and velcro shoe wearing WeeToddEd

[@MrGandoff]

Is this guy related to Wes?

[@920WASHBURN]

Ok what if someone broke into your house and unalived your sister in front of you, then ran away? Are they still innocent until proven guilty?

[@seanfenrir]

Techically yes, however, in that circumstance, as Andrew pointed out, you have the right to defend yourself and your sister in that situation which in many places, include lethal force.

[@TheChocoboWhisperer]

Yes, literally. Unless he pleads guilty.

[@920WASHBURN]

@@TheChocoboWhisperer nobody is talking about in the eyes of the law. He saw him fo it, so he knows he's a criminal.

[@920WASHBURN]

@@seanfenrir none of that has anything to do with this. The point is, just because someone hasn't been caught, doesmt mean they're not a criminal.

[@shawnm1902]

​@@seanfenriryou don't get it, as neither did the tick tock person Andrew was speaking with. If there's no crime being enacted, you have no right to defend yourself, your property, or others. For the state to enact punishment of a crime, a conviction is required. You defending yourself is not the state enacting punishment, but you as an individual. Of which, you determined guilt upon enacting the self defense. The question following that ends up being, does the state view your action as lawful or not and frequently in many states, they'll prosecute you for doing so regardless of the outcome of the "self defense".

[@gamingstokr7299]

That is a perfect example of a bad faith actor being deliberately obtuse.

[@JohnMac3837]

Bad faith Andrew, how dare you. 🤣

[@tagnino]

Andrew destroys another progressive that cannot defend his argument! Pure entertainment!!!! Thank you sir!!!

[@bzdzb]

It is not legal for a U.S. citizen to enter the United States outside of a designated port of entry. U.S. law requires that all persons entering the country, including citizens, must do so at an official port of entry and be subject to inspection by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Entering the country through any other means, such as crossing the border at an unofficial location, is illegal and can result in legal consequences.

[@crazykenny1213]

It's a FELONY and mandatory imprisonnent for a US citizen who enters the US illegally, not through a port of entry. This guy didn't know what he was talking about at all.

[@chad480906]

These tiktok debates he does are really good. It exposes people's bad arguments very quickly. Too bad Andrew's logic doesn't get through this guys thick skull. I was hoping for it to be a longer debate.

[@richardrisner3635]

This is some mind numbingly idiotic nonsense

[@wrotoeshaw9270]

That is a whole lot of confidence in that level of stupidity. We have failed our youth

[@Skotti2hotti]

When they say “Im teaching people” 😂 we know your lying

[@clubbedsandwich1128]

Bro can't even learn and yet thinks he's teaching people. 😂

[@jamessteckel5379]

All right no more middle ground no more moderation no more shaking hands with the left the gloves are off This is insane