Andrew Tate goes to therapy #8 - (Therapist Reacts)

[@crinaivanciu6693]

Hearing Dr Honda say "take care of yourselves because you deserve it, you really, really do" always feels so good

[@andedom]

I definitely identify with the concept of “idolizing dad” as a child out of fear that he would abandon me. And I was very angry at my mom. Didn’t realize it until a few years ago.

[@Cottenball.Dossier]

Same, I would keep a pic of my dad under my bed, imagining him saving me from my abusive mom, only to be disillusioned when I actually met him at 13. I realized not just my mom was unreliable, most adults in my life were.

[@Smoczur777]

Yeah, I realized not so long ago myself. I had a lot of anger towards her that seemed to be completely out of nowhere. I'm thirty, and I've spent almost 5 years of my life just resenting her and couldn't put my finger on why that is. Once I realized, it took some time to let go and forgive but it's ok now. It's weird how many of us have simillar experiences. But it helps with healing, knowing you are not the only one.

[@andedom]

@@Smoczur777 yes, unfortunately we live in a world full of selfish men who abandon their children and mothers who are left to pick up the pieces :/. In my case, like @esme____”, my mother has issues too. She tries her best but she is somewhat emotionally detached. Thats how she had to be to survive her childhood. So she wasn’t ever able to attune to me in quite the way I needed either. I think that also caused some of my resentment towards her in my younger years.

[@lizliz4186]

4:10 did he say he could have EARNED time with his dad any time he wanted it?

[@lisaess6514]

Yes, he said exactly that. I wonder what that means.

[@whyamievendoingthis...]

Yeah, a truly absurd thing to say 😂

[@powderandpaint14]

I noticed this too. I wonder if it made him feel like when he didn't get attention or time from his father he obviously wasn't good enough or hadn't tried hard enough.

[@lanagustafson1700]

I wonder if it’s a way of maintaining his sense of control. He said “if I wanted it I could have earned it”. It’s like he’s denying that he wanted it so he doesn’t have to admit that his needs weren’t met and so he doesn’t seem weak for having needs

[@crazymissdaisy]

Gotta love a therapist who does things outside the box. The one who changed my life SLAMMED her notes on the table asking me who the hell told me it was ok to talk about myself like that. I ended up bawling, it was so intense but it worked!

[@its_herocast276]

Or you could've simply just listened to Andrew say "Somewhere on this planet, there's someone your age that may look a bit like you, that if you were to sit there and explain to them your problems, they would swap lives with you in a heartbeat... There's someone out there who would do ANYTHING for it..."

[@andedom]

Yeah, takes a lot of confidence and skill to do something like that. I’m glad it worked for you!

[@Sough]

@@its_herocast276 lol okay fanboy. The school of, "stop complaining, someone else's life is worse". Ask any depressed person how that feels

[@genevieve4202]

Wow, that intervention is intense and life changing

[@crazymissdaisy]

yeah no, that line of thinking was part of why I hated myself so much "Someone has it worse than you, why are you struggling, you should be ashamed" and a huge part of why I almost killed myself @@its_herocast276

[@UncontrolledFalculties]

This has ended up being one of my favorite series of yours. Sad it's over! This was very informative and interesting!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@briandenehee]

Could it be that David was just sort of "lying" by meeting Andrew at his level and presenting as even more of a misogynist, thereby almost positioning Andrew in the less misogynistic position? I don't know, it seems sort of odd that this guy would be a very good therapist yet also happen to be that biased.

[@Cottenball.Dossier]

It looks like he agrees with his full chest to me lol, but I hope he is just trying to meet him where he is at

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

Hes definitely pretending in order to try to get past his BS alpha act

[@stxrryd]

I'm pretty sure that Tate respects him because of his misogynistic views. That's probably why Tate agreed to be there. It's possible that he is both a misogynist and trying to be obtuse about it to see where Tate is at mentally.

[@hollystohl3800]

@@SheikhN-bible-syndromehe’s not pretending. He’s spouted his misogynistic views multiple times outside of this video with tate

[@TheDisell]

​@@talkamarachidefinitely not pretending. his instagram is very misogynistic.

[@sabbymw]

I know "hurt people hurt people" but if you understand what went wrong, you go out of your way to fix it/change. He was pimping out women online whilst having a ton of kids that he didn't take care of or live with. Raising children is so hard even with just one. This guy is disgusting and idk how he's an "alpha". A true father raises their child, doesn't have forced sex with women, and spends time with his family after work.

[@SheikhN-bible-syndrome]

Right? And he has to pay his baby monmas 10k just to let him see his kids lol hes such a chump

[@its_herocast276]

Your lgnorance... Not a Single Allegation was Ever Proven Once... He literally Spoke Against the adult entertainment industry Every Single Day for over a YEAR, while telling men to do their Absolute All, to give their fitness their absolute all, give their diet their absolute all, every single day, regardless of how they feel, to be a brand new man in the mirror in the next hundred days.

[@VickyG212]

The way I interpret "hurt people hurt people" is not in a way that justifies people who hurt others, but rather as an understanding that no one who is happy and lives a fulfilling life goes out of their way to mistreat people. It's s sign. Still not justifiable

[@ExtraordinaryMachine333]

@@its_herocast276 Test, you can change your name/switch mule accounts, but it doesn't hide anything unless you get some new material. I've seen footage of him talking about luring women onto Only Fans and then taking control of their accounts so he got a large percentage of their earnings, but sure, who believes what AT says?

[@ARS-fn6px]

​@@its_herocast276you men really want to live in delulu land. 😂

[@Aerojuanas]

I hope I'm not being too dramatic, but that was THE BEST EPISODE EVER 😊 Seeing that side of you, Dr Kirk, and hearing the story about your client, wow. I cried so hard, and I applauded at the very end. You are brilliant, and this has been by far my favourite reaction series you've done.

[@genevieve4202]

SAME!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Wow, thank you!

[@Haninfp]

I would absolutely love to watch your commentary on more therapy sessions! I'm excited to see your take on Couples Therapy but I would even love to see you watch video footage of classic therapy sessions such as the Gloria sessions with Carl Rogers/Albert Ellis/Fritz Perls

[@DD-jm5ug]

Yes! My male therapist helped me understand myself through transference on my side...he didn't know it was happening but I did. It really helped me understand my relationship with men and he was the first man I ever felt safe around. Very powerful.

[@madisonsscar]

In tears hearing about you and your client. Thank you for sharing

[@saiyamoru]

After watching this analysis and interview, frankly, I still have zero hope for him. I don't think this individual can heal of his own volition - we just have to try to minimize the harm he can do to others. His childhood sounds awful, yes, but nothing can convince him of the fact that it damaged him (despite it being painfully obvious) or that he needs to change. His dad could and probably did punch him in the face and Andy is here thanking him for it decades later. Truly sad, but again: he is dishing out trauma because he never coped with his own, he will never accept this reality, and the world would be a better place if he wasn't part of society. Hope the jail sentence is at least a decade.

[@snowgirlpea]

Dr Honda thank you for sharing your personal moment with a client and showing emotions about it, if I had a son I would want to show him this video so he can have an example and role model of healthy expression ❤

[@its_herocast276]

Andrew said "women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they make a great team", and Kurk called that misogynistic... How does that not disgust you??

[@its_herocast276]

Andrew said that violent outbursts and brutal murder are actions influenced by emotions. Emotional control means controlling the ((influence emotions have over our actions)), we obviously can't control emotions themselves, which is why Andrew also says "Heartbreak? Good, now you have an unlimited source of energy you can channel in the right direction, because your duty as a man is to do your absolute all, give your fitness your absolute all, give your diet your absolute all, every single day, to be a brand new man in the mirror in the next hundred days.

[@MelodiesThatMatterMT]

I am not a psychotherapist, but I work in that realm. As a music therapist, as a mother, and as a human your channel has given me so much perspective (and of course my own therapist has helped me do a lot of work)

[@hayleyb467]

I love you & am so grateful for the time and effort you put into your channel. it is very helpful and makes the world a better place ❤

[@ahmorgan]

This makes me uncomfortable

[@izamartian90]

@@ahmorganI don’t think they mean like love love. I think the mean like, “I love that band… I love that comedian… I love spaghetti” hope that helps

[@its_herocast276]

How can you love a therapist that calls others misogynistic for saying women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they make a great team..? That's literally what Andrew said he meant...

[@madisonsscar]

Oh my god, my heart…. Did anyone else notice how Tate’s tone completely changed? I’m only 11 minutes in so idk where this goes, but he’s speaking softer. I can feel the emotion in his voice. It’s like he’s a totally different person.

[@its_herocast276]

Oh my god, my heart.... Did you seriously not hear Andrew say "Do not suppress your emotions, do not fight it"?? Kurk is so lgnorant, he has no clue what Andrew believes, he's just coming up with claims from the sky, backed by absolutely nothing

[@chilo8187]

Sociopaths do that soft tone yes

[@ev2790]

I love this. I think a lot of our society would see someone like Andrew Tate or other perpetrators and say they don’t deserve to heal or get therapy. But i think we all need to realize that while we may have those feelings about people, at the end of the day treating abusers means harm reduction and less victims. I also love the way you talk about therapy, you can really tell it’s your life’s purpose and passion and i think that is a beautiful thing.

[@hopesnvts6027]

Thank you for sharing that story with us, Kirk! Sounds like it meant a lot to you as a therapist and as a person!

[@socje7399]

This was a fascinating series. Thank you!

[@Yikkoofficial]

The point you’re bringing about success and love is very relatable.

[@dopamine_27]

The anecdote at the end is so beautiful; the magic that can happen in therapy is sublime. I experienced it as a client and I'm honored by the idea that I might induce this in the relationship with my own clients when I become a therapist myself.

[@foojee23]

Really suprised at how useful this series was. Thank-you.

[@its_herocast276]

How was it useful, if kurk clearly has no clue what he's talking about?? Andrew literally said "Do not suppress your emotions, do not fight it", yet kurks disgusting lgnorance makes up claims from the sky that Andrew is trying to "suppress his emotions", and that he's a "misogynist" for saying women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they're a great team... That's literally what Andrew said... I could literally prove kurk wrong about absolutely everything, just embarrassing...

[@foojee23]

@@its_herocast276 i'm sure you could but nobody cares what you think here

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

@@its_herocast276 It's useful for some people to learn about how, as men, we are socialized to believe harmful notions - harmful to others and ourselves. If you don't find that useful, then I'll assume you're either already enlightened or you have been indoctrinated. I wish you well either way.

[@its_herocast276]

@@PsychologyInSeattle Sorry if I sounded a bit abrasive, but Andrew said men do violent outbursts and brutal murder when their actions are influenced by emotions, which is why they need emotional control, which means controlling the ((influence emotions have over actions)), (not emotions themselves), which is why Andrew also says to men "Heartbreak? Good, now you have an Unlimited source of energy you can channel in the right direction"

[@paryagiagorji909]

As always thanks for your authenticity Dr Honda. Would you consider doing an episode on somatic experiencial therapy/counseling?

[@juanitoevillegas6857]

I’m using my bfs profile btw but I just have to say I love your episodes on therapy sessions! They are my favorite I learn so much! Not just about the therapeutic process but about myself too. Plz keep doing these videos and the couples therapy ones. (Also love your deep dives) thank you so much for all ya do!

[@andedom]

This “therapy” session is fascinating and very enlightening.

[@its_herocast276]

Agree, but Kurk calls others misogynistic for saying women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they make a great team.. So other than kurks disgusting lgnorance, yea, I agree

[@andedom]

@@its_herocast276 huh?

[@its_herocast276]

@@andedom Andrew said "women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they make a great team", and Kurk called Andrew misogynistic... How does that not disgust you??

[@andedom]

@@its_herocast276 Ok buddy . I think you’re here to promote an agenda that I want no part of. So good luck with all that

[@katm7255]

@@its_herocast276that’s not what happened 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@sylviaowega3839]

Great episode! It is one great lesson especially for individuals like my 17-year who will be going into clinical psychology next year once she sets foot on that university.

[@rebecca_stone]

Damn, you nailed this series. The peak moment of the therapy session captured in this video was very moving. Your analysis of this - which you did in a very sensitive and accepting way - essentially illustrates the horrific self-concept damage that's at the heart of narcissism and borderline personality disorders. Two conditions that are grossly misunderstood. I'm speaking as someone who is in remission from BPD, unstable and traumatic upbringing and relooping the same retraumatising abusive dynamics in my adult romantic relationships with narcissistic men. It's hard to explain to people the impact of a moment like in this therapy session, how huge it is to hear another person want to actually "see" you. It's taken me decades to feel worthy of even having feelings, then to feel able sit and name them and accept that I'm worthy of them being heard and validated. I'm surprised how AT genuinely allowed it to land, even just for those 30 seconds. This is a demo of how therapy for these conditions (when it's done well) is supposed to be a model of safe and stable relating, where the person's armour can come off. It's massive. It's often the first authentic and safe relationship we've ever had. I wish that for all the millions of evil "narcissistic monster" videos circulating KZbin videos there were more like this, because this is far more educational and productive. Our generation is in an epidemic of narcissism, which is from the knock-on effects of abusive and disengaged parenting. I'm not talking about vanity on social media, but actual narcissism. People really don't have a fraction of an idea the damage and trauma that are at the heart of these conditions and the damage that's done to a child by emotionally neglectful parenting, then the knock-on effects to all the people who those children go on to damage in adulthood. If we were more able to call it out, perhaps this epidemic of narcissism would slow down. Dismissing narcissists as "evil" and avoiding them will only get society so far. Amazing series to show what's possible, thank you.

[@Slamstarproductions]

Thanks for the fun series

[@michelem226]

I was able to recognize that in my family it wasn't safe to stand up to my dad, so those feelings were displaced onto my mom. It's a sad state of affairs :(

[@Mama_Bear524]

Davis actually did well here. Making him drop his defences, be real. “Come back! Don’t think!” It was good. I wish he wouldn’t be a misogynist but I gotta say, well done David.

[@bagel_bandanna]

He does therapy on camera and posts it to youtube. This checks so many boxes for narcissism, which is not a surprise to anyone.

[@politicaltroll8920]

If I remember correctly there was a KZbinr who read a series of short stories Tate wrote about a Kung Fu master and his student and it is pretty clear he is writing about his dad and him during his childhood. In the stories the master is downright abusive, distant, unavailable etc. Edit: I found the video it is called “I read Andrew Tate’s Book So You Don’t Have To” by Zoe Bee.

[@Zwantceeto]

That was so informative, thank you. I never thought I'd see Andrew Tate in therapy.

[@carly2496]

It is very scary to me that there are therapists like Dave, who hold these hideous misogynistic beliefs. I had one male therapist who did a great deal of damage by looking bored, jumping to conclusions, and failing to diagnose a disability that was actually pretty apparent. He had some definite Dave vibes and it’s super unsettling that I was in a room with a man like that, who hated what I was to my core.

[@deadlytoxin]

The more of your videos I watch the more I enjoy learning from you.

[@thevirgologychannel6215]

There is a You Tube video of David talking about this session

[@DanielleMarieW]

That would be interesting to see Dr Honda react to!

[@thevirgologychannel6215]

@@DanielleMarieW I put a link below

[@ArtLeeG]

You help restore my faith in humanity 🙌🏼🎉🌞

[@MelodiesThatMatterMT]

I would love to see Dr Honda comment on Gilmore Girls characters

[@090Bluebird]

Loved this series. Thank you Dr.

[@Bergziegen35]

Andrew is so calculated that I suppose he planned from the beginning to show a glimpse of himself in this. Also he knows that his audience will be interested in it. Of course within his usual frame of being that super strong man that he is not even afraid to face therapy. It's still a good therapy moment and I think it's real but I'm not as impressed. Maybe I just don't trust him enough to fully enjoy😂 Your are amazing at analyzing this Dr Kirk! Therapy is an art form to me.

[@silviaespinosa5908]

Couple therapy, yeah! Thanks, Dr. Kirk! :)

[@katetoldness4220]

If what Andrew says is true about how he "creates value" for the women in his life, I can say that one thing is true of these women . If they are happy with him, they do not love him. If they do love him, they are profoundly unhappy. Because if you love someone, it would kill you to watch them constantly ignoring their own needs, especially for your benefit. I know on those occassions where my spouse has done this to excess, it hurts my heart dreadfully and I tell him so and to let me take on my fair share. I think this is what makes Andrew so insidious are not his openly objectionable views and actions but those bits of benevolent sexism that hook a lot of young men who are good-hearted but were raised with an outsized sense of responsibility towards women and relatively low expectations towards us. Also I think it's fine to give credit where it is due to David while still being critical of his world view. It is good to oppose harmful ideas but not good to tacitly endorse the all-or-nothing thinking that underpins a lot of harmful ideas. To say that someone who has bad ideas can never be right about anything is wrong-headed and verging on totalitarian. It's like I can have compassion for the neglected child while still holding the abusive adult they became accountable. And that is how I feel about Andrew Tate at the end of the day.

[@Stormy575]

The way Tate lets his walls down in this session is pretty amazing and so....I wonder why he did? I don't believe that a man as intellectual and calculating as Tate would cede control so readily without a strong motivation. Obviously both men knew they were being recorded, and that this video would be made public. Why did they film it? Why does Tate want the public to see him in therapy/being vulnerable? I am super-curious about the story behind this whole project.

[@Sough]

It was interesting but the sit there in your feelings exercise only lasted about 10 seconds before the interview ended

[@bagel_bandanna]

My guess - he is faking any "breakthroughs" - remember he is paid per view on KZbin.

[@ankedee6578]

Love love love this episodes❤thank you!

[@its_herocast276]

How did you love it, if kurk clearly has no clue what he's talking about?? Andrew literally said "Do not suppress your emotions, do not fight it", yet kurks disgusting lgnorance makes up claims from the sky that Andrew is trying to "suppress his emotions", and that he's a "misogynist" for saying women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they're a great team... That's literally what Andrew said... I could literally prove kurk wrong about absolutely everything, just embarrassing...

[@Ununpentium]

Thanks for this series! I find content like this (and the couples therapy one) most interesting - it feels more authentic and less scripted / cut, etc. I think you may have overvalued his comment - looking back it seemed like a satiric comment on Tates views and some compliments to get his trust. Like "but how come you can trust a woman, they are not rational" (like using some if Tates words polemicizing them). I found David's style of therapy very appealing!

[@vanessagarza2283]

As a professional in our field - part of me completely agrees with you But ! Other parts of me thinks he did such a great job at dismantling his defenses ❤

[@kelly30269]

Wow. I would have never guessed I could learn so much about myself from AT! Your insight really connected a lot!

[@Sproeikoei]

This is a very good analysis and hits close to home about narcissistic defenses. I wonder if the therapist is actually a misogynist or if he said this stuff to get a foot in the door with Andrew.

[@its_herocast276]

How was it good, if kurk clearly has no clue what he's talking about?? Andrew literally said "Do not suppress your emotions, do not fight it", yet kurks disgusting lgnorance makes up claims from the sky that Andrew is trying to "suppress his emotions", and that he's a "misogynist" for saying women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they're a great team... That's literally what Andrew said... I could literally prove kurk wrong about absolutely everything, just embarrassing...

[@tb89117]

I think the therapist was just pacing and leading Andrew. He had to be even more misogynistic in order to gain Andrew’s trust, and influence him. I think that’s why Dr. Honda is wondering how the therapist can be so effective, but also be so misogynistic. Just a guess

[@ArielLVT]

PLEASE DO COUPLES THERAPY! PLEASE! IT'S REALLY GOOD!

[@TheaTheDane]

I LOVED this series!

[@its_herocast276]

How did you love it, if kurk clearly has no clue what he's talking about?? Andrew literally said "Do not suppress your emotions, do not fight it", yet kurks disgusting lgnorance makes up claims from the sky that Andrew is trying to "suppress his emotions", and that he's a "misogynist" for saying women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they're a great team... That's literally what Andrew said... I could literally prove kurk wrong about absolutely everything, just embarrassing...

[@TheaTheDane]

⁠@@its_herocast276 It’s very cute that you’re deliberately not writing his name correctly. How very big-dick-energy of you 😂 You don’t seem petty or small at all! The rhyme was for free. You’re welcome. 👩🏻‍🎨 I loved the series because it gave Kirk a chance to talk about how good and bad therapy sessions are and not just personality types and so on. And it was super interesting to get a nuanced view of Andrew Tate which is not something that you often get. It’s often very much like your own opinions - black or white. So yes, I loved this series, and I love you too 😘

[@its_herocast276]

@@TheaTheDaneI knew his name was kirk, but spelled it wrong, my bad, but how are his opinions not black and white? he literally said it's misogynist to say women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they make a great team.. that's literally what Andrew said...

[@DD-jm5ug]

Children and alot of adults can't differentiate between fear and respect. This is a massive lesson once understood at a deeper consciousness.

[@kaleanaking5292]

You literally told his life story without even realizing you did. He’s openly admitted that his dad was hardly ever home, and when he was his parents were always fighting because of the dad’s constant cheating. He has a sister too who legit refuses to talk to him or about him

[@Kimbawarnes]

I’d love for you to do a series and react to some of Alex Hermozi’s videos. Character is very different to Tate but presents in quite unique ways and ULTRA successful. Maybe the “Iced coffee hour” episode interviewing him.

[@powderandpaint14]

He actually mentioned love, i'm surprised. At the very least he understands that he's supposed to love his children.

[@DD-jm5ug]

Also this is brilliant! Love his style.

[@tisean305]

isn't it fascinating with how many different and extreme behaviors humans come up to deal with their traumas. And yes sometimes confronting people isn't the easy way but they key to make them really think about their own behavior.

[@Chromebiscuit]

It's weird how easy it is to be racist, misogynistic, or homophobic while also being in connection with your own vulnerability. Perhaps this makes him the is the most compatible "therapist" for Andrew given his existing belief system. I see this a lot in a sub-group of male relationship coaches on Instagram who promote the gender polarity woo-woo idealogy. My question is if this therapy will provide a net-positive for Andrew and the people who have suffered because of him. David is not capable of deprogramming him of misogyny and is probably even reinforcing it. I noticed David's strategy at the end is also a common exercise in acting school- given his background, it is likely he would have a lot of experience connecting with people emotionally and within the moment. I think that's why I am getting a weird voodoo cult vibe from him.

[@mikadeutsch6777]

Kirk, I'm not sure if you caiught this, but, in that first clip, after Tate says he's going to spend just the same amount of time with his kids as his father did with him, his reply, "I may want to," is technically addressing the therapist's Q, "Would you not want to give them more?" Tate then starts saying something else beginning with I when the therapist pipes in, "You wanted more," provoking protest. They're both related sentiments obviously - I may want to spend more time with my children as a father vs. I may want(/have wanted) more with my father - but the latter much more literally amounting to an admission.

[@ernesta2578]

Do you script your commentary?

[@maarleyjedermann3174]

Still waiting for the day when Dr. Kirk feels safe enough to cry on camera. This is the closest we've seen him I feel though. Brings a tear to my eye as well.

[@audreymirandarusselman]

He has! Several times- one was over the grief of his mentor Dr Phil Cushman, another was watching an old clip of Jadah and Will Smith. Those are the ones I can remember right now

[@andedom]

He’s cried on camera numerous times

[@maarleyjedermann3174]

@@audreymirandarusselman Are you sure? I think I have watched both clips. I just remember Dr. Kirk mentioning that he still struggles with crying on camera.

[@haileyoslund]

I wonder how Andrew Tate would react to “respectable” men that display duality in their masculinity. People like Bob Ross, who were in the military and by all accounts “strong” and “capable” yet display softness, kindness, creativity etc.

[@rebecca-borg]

I'm questioning why A.T. is filming this session, what's his purpose for doing this, and what was the prior agreement with D.S., what was left on the editing floor and who was making decisions on the final edited version. Perhaps we shy talk about 'emotional manipulation' in terms of future jurors who may be compromised if they watched this 'therapy session'. This guy, A.T., only does nothing for nothing. I'm curious about his reason/s for broadcasting this.

[@Mama_Bear524]

Oh wow Dr Honda! Your client story was incredible.

[@MeganSmith80]

I love it when I can remember a story that the doc already told. I feel like I know him a bit.

[@zeddeka]

"Kind of a weird experience for two men to have". Not only is David mysoginisric, he also has some very warped notions of masculinity.

[@Leonardo-hy3qj]

No ep9? 😢

[@itssomechick]

I thought he said those myso things just to kind of fit in with tates mindframe but that because it was so forced it came off too intense and tate was like woah. I don't think the therapist is actually a bad guy

[@DanielleMarieW]

Does he have daughters too, or are they just not worth mentioning? I’ll watch to the end to see… I really hope he does start prioritizing his children because that might actually break the cycle of trauma.

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Yeah, I think he has at least one daughter. I saw a video clip of him being nice to her. I'm hoping that his online persona isn't the real him. But that's hard to imagine.

[@tysonn4736]

Someone can be a good therapist and not be a perfect human being.

[@bethk7286]

Please do the next season of Plathville

[@m.r.e.5731]

He's the king of intellectualizing.

[@its_herocast276]

King of intellectualizing?? Compared to who??

[@m.r.e.5731]

@its_herocast276 It's a figure of speech. I know that behavior when I see it; that is all.

[@mentholyspirit]

Wouldn't it fix the issue if we'd collectively treat these people like a therapist, trying to see their points of view, understanding that their hate is a product of trauma, instead of judging them? I've long felt like the reason these people have a movement is that they are all cast out of society because of their narcissism. Maybe Dr. Kirk Honda is also a little bit afraid that he will be judged if his first reaction is not condemnation.

[@SaltyGuava]

This is familiar to me. His father was from Northwest Indiana.

[@Lenastar23]

In order to justify the abuse he suffered and build it into his framework, he has to believe that it is ok to treat his kids that way- because it will make them 'strong' like he is.

[@patricia9565]

Hi Dr. Honda! Do you think it's possible the therapist is trying to join/build rapport and safety by agreeing with his perception of Tate's worldview? I'm not sure about the ethics around that, but could he be getting that somehow out of the way to lower defenses and get to other things? Perhaps he doesn't actually believe that and would hope to circle back in the future? Just a thought.

[@Sough]

The guy has a long history of misogyny

[@its_herocast276]

@@SoughA history of Andrew saying that women are better than men at X, and men are better than women at Y, and together they're a great team...???

[@Herbert-dy1uf]

David made one flippant comment. "logic... Women? It may have been a sign or a deep sexism, or it may have been an in joke they have.

[@michellev2630]

Mabye to you it seems nothing, or a joke. But it is deeply disturbing. And wrong too. Tate said: don't by mysogynistic and David said: it's not! So, no joke, real belief. Ugh.

[@BeverlyRose330]

Andrew Tate is the poster child of daddy issues

[@garonhock5531]

Remember on the first video where everyone was saying he wasn’t a real therapist 😂😂😂😂

[@KMcKenzie9]

Who the hell said that? Omg 🙄

[@garonhock5531]

@@KMcKenzie9 oh you can check the first video lol, it’s literally 99 percent of the comments

[@ExtraordinaryMachine333]

It says, "he's a Certified Core Energetics Practitioner, and a graduate of the Radical Aliveness Institute of Southern California". It doesn't sound like he's a licensed therapist with evidence-based instruction, it sounds like he's a new-agey woo peddler, but that doesn't mean he can't also use therapy tactics. Dr. Phil also not a legitmately licensed therapist, pretended to be one on his TV show

[@KMcKenzie9]

@@ExtraordinaryMachine333 if you say so 🤣

[@garonhock5531]

Idk seems like he’s doing a good job- I’ve watched a lot of dr Hondas content and I’ve never seen him praise a therapist so highly so- sorry about that lol

[@therabbithat]

Hang on.. So he thinks his dad would have come back if he'd "earned it"? He didn't get to be with him because he didn't "earn it"? Did he give up trying to earn it? Is he still trying to earn it? What was that

[@ellixrose2650]

The story about your client ❤❤❤🥹

[@tinasustic6504]

His father was a international chess champion. Very smart man and Andrew is not very smart. He is average.

[@charitydixon7828]

I'm wondering if David's misogynistic comment was to let Andrew know that they share similar thoughts and perspectives, allowing Andrew to grow a deeper trust faster with David so he could open up and allow the therapy in; I'm not positive David actually believes those things. Curious to know what other people think about this.

[@katm7255]

Just google him. He espouses the same views. It’s gross.

[@collectiveunconscious3d]

I'm usure if he's really aware what's he's doing here. Maybe he is aware and this is the new trajectory as he's trying to break away from the image of his past. Maybe because of audience pivot but along the way he might touch upon something that's more authentic and can work. Is it good? Feels like you can never judge if this is really authentic or not, I think you can do both. But if he really goes that direction and doesn't have any form of reconciliation with his past, it's def not the real thing. Non the less, this part was good stuff, prob the most challenging thing I've seen him do

[@danishbutter1847]

you likely just confronted the shadow of your client in front of him that seem to have woken him up and shattering the former surviving mechanics of a shadow psyche that rides on ones ego without ones awareness or left unacknowledged.

[@teeeahwilson7873]

watching him ask him to sit with him and "stay in the moment" is making me uncomfortable. light bulb moment for me- something wrong here.

[@Chromebiscuit]

it's giving problematic spiritual guru turn-cult leader vibes

[@barbmoore6587]

This therapist's approach felt so authentic and yet still in appropriate therapist state of being❤❤❤I wonder if, when he spoke in a masoginistic way, maybe he was approaching Andrew with association connections❤❤ I have never heard of Andrew Tate, yet so happy I left my irritated old Feminist judgements and listen to this, with you❤❤thank you for the enlightenment 🫂🙏🏼🇨🇦

[@Herbert-dy1uf]

Dr Kirk working on the presupposition that both these men are misogynistic. They are making a video to be seen by millions worldwide. They are performing. Let's not assume we know what they truly think behind closed doors.

[@nickyphenix4146]

Tates parents got divorced, him and his brother had to leave his dad and move back to the USA with mom. As the oldest son he had to be “strong” for his family and take on the head of house hold role. It makes sense he’s the way he is. He feels he always has to be the strong protector. Always feels like everyone in his circle is relying on him.

[@Supercocono6]

Are we sure the therapist isn’t saying occasional misogynistic comments to try and get Tate to let his guard down? Or do we know this from other external examples. It does seem highly suspect that someone intellectual can believe women can’t be logical. Therapists have therapy themselves so wouldn’t that have been identified in his training?

[@DarienneEmpire]

Do you think it's possible that this David guy is playing to Andrew's ego by acting misogynistic in order to gain his trust with the plans to actually get through to him? Idk. Idk him I'm just wondering. He is a trained actor.

[@5qcW_WLlgt6-lke9-_kiQg]

Dr Honda, is it possible that David played the mysoginist for a minute to get Tate on board, to gain his trust, or could it be that he blurred out something mysoginistic just to reassure himself that he understood what Tate's position was, to receive Tate's confirmation for that?

[@edbrown5956]

Dr. Kirk I know he said some misogynistic things but it sounds a bit like black and white thinking. (Not trying to be a jerk here) Yes he said some wrong things but he also is doing some great therapy that someone who is pretty far left and vocal about wouldn't get. To be fair though I think you are really afraid of the alt left trolls who may rip you apart if you don't keep reminding them you don't fully agree with there side. That's probably why you keep repeating it. You can't make everyone happy although I know YT is likely a huge income source you need to watch how you say things. Love this series on him though!!!! Thanks for commenting on these!

[@tmtb80]

Wow. Project much?

[@edbrown5956]

@@tmtb80 Maybe some of that. That is in fact how I learned about what it was. It just sounded like an impulse to remind us viewers that he's fully in agreement. Being that this probably draws in a wider audience I'm sure he's speaking to the visitors not the people who regularly watch his content.

[@zellar8054]

Oh my goodness get over the misogynistic thing. His techniques are still valuable even if he wasn’t a misogynist . Also it is very much like Tate to keep an open mind so it’s not surprising that he’s cooperating.