Drum Teacher Reacts: KAI HAHTO | Nightwish LIVE Drumcam | 'Wishmaster' (2021 Reaction)

[@anttikangasaho]

Hey from the creator of the original video! Thanks for an amazing reaction video. Kai is indeed amazing and makes the licks and tricks look like a walk in the park. And on top of all the skills he always plays for the song. I have a plenty of drumcam stuff on my channel and also plenty more Kai. Ghost Love Score is super popural and it does have some brain twisting insane drumming towards the end. All the Nightwish videos have been done by recording the actual acoustic sound from the stage with a couple of recorders. Maybe next time I get to work with actual multitrack for even better audio.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank YOU! Pinned your comment here. Thanks for the awesome vid :)

[@Neil2112]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Absolutely continue your Kai journey, on KZbin or not. His drumming is beautiful. Not sure if it were mentioned anywhere else, but a fun fact about Kai…. He studied under the late and great Freddy Gruber. Same person Neil Peart turned to when he wanted a different approach to the drums.

[@Martee234]

Wintersun - Sons of winter and stars, and Wintersun - Time. Kai is showing there his perfection

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I will Marcin!

[@markhall5251]

What he said...lol....stunning...Kai is a human metronome......just on speed.....hahaha

[@hextatik_sound]

Sons of winter and stars (studio live) is great and Hahto just nails it perfectly.

[@olbaolba]

Sons of winter and stars is really good and interesting song indeed. Andrew might also be interested about video, where Kai has "how to" about that song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHiwk3t-nMyUZ5o

[@Martee234]

@@olbaolba yeah i saw that video too, awesome. when drummer can repeat all the sticking but in slower tempo it's trully professional

[@MrDijaru]

Kai one of the best drummers today. 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@SolFaithman]

The end of the video, youtube recommendation which popped up "Weak Fantasy", starts with Kai doing a short drum solo!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Sounds good!

[@itedcoe]

Or Stargazers from the same Himos show!

[@soundworks1554]

There is still a lot to discover with Kai, certainly: Wintersun - Sons of winter and stars. But be careful with Nightwish live concerts, that can be a deep rabbit hole and in addition the soul hunter goddess can suddenly catch you.

[@L3onOfKings]

There is no escape.

[@joritdekker]

Well, he can't say we did not warn him when that happens.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Sounds good!

[@soundworks1554]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums It will sound more than good! Of course, depending on your preferences. If you're interested, here's just a little insight into how good this band can sound live and Kai is on duty. Even the statements about the soul hunter goddess, also called valkyrie queen etc. are also revealed and shown to a certain extent. « Devil and the deep dark ocean » kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmOZo5Ksdr6EZrM Nightwish has a wide variety of wonderful surprises to offer. Not to forget the original drummer Jukka Nevalainen, who retired for health reasons, but continued to support the band in the background.

[@grahamkey8496]

@@soundworks1554 That song would be my pick for Kai's insane high speed fills

[@PeeVee1979]

You might want to check Kai's previous band Wintersun and their live rehearsal of the song Time. Prepare to pick your jaw up from the floor, Kai is a beast.

[@ps-em4nz]

So obviously you gotta check out Wintersun to see Kai Hahtos real potential... Nightwish stuff is too easy for him

[@ps-em4nz]

This is a drum channel tho, there is quality drumcams from pearldrumsfinland to watch :)

[@ryant3600]

i don't' know.. The Greatest Show on Earth is amazing

[@ps-em4nz]

@@ryant3600 It sure is, But not from a drummer PoV

[@ryant3600]

@@ps-em4nz there's some stuff he does in that one that blows my mind.. Not throughout the entire song, just some runs and fills that make me look/listen over and over a few times

[@jacksonnew2592]

As has been said, as much as I love Nightwish, his previous band Wintersun are absolutely mind blowing. His drum work on Sons of Winter and Stars instantly elevated him to be my favourite drummer and enough for me to name my son Kai

[@ssc00p]

Wow... naming your son after a person is one of the highest complimentary a man can give 🤩

[@rianvandenhoof4124]

As a Nightwish fan, and a fan of Kai I`m especially fond of the song ~Tribal~ from their last album called Human Nature. greetings from the Netherlands.

[@RoyalMela]

Kai is almost a former band member of mine. I left a band and they also replaced the drummer at that time, and the new drummer was Kai. Very humble guy. Just this last midsummer I was drinking with him and his wife in our hometown, watching some small local bands. He always is there when he has a chance. Just chills like a regular guy in the audience. And when he is not touring, he usually jams with local street jazz band and has even played percussions in Vaasa city orchestra.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks for that info Roy!

[@helky8]

Kai is allways having so much fun when playing. Smiling and singing along. He is also so nice and friendly to fans in Facebook. Gotta love him! ❤️❤️

[@CJ-lo1ny]

Kai is a beast on the drums! Listen to Nightwish” devil and the deep dark ocean” Kai is killing on the drums🔥

[@michaelhoilman6897]

Yes, great suggestion. He absolutely murders those drums in that song.

[@EricManktelow]

Kai is a drumming monster and master. Nightwish doesn't really push him much but all the members of Nightwish play for the song not their egos. His Wintersun stuff is mind bending and his early stuff in Grindcore is also crazy. Oh yes and if you do watch Nightwish live stuff, the singer Floor will steal your soul and take it Valhalla with her!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll check out the full song Eric!

[@k.l.7788]

Kai likes jazz, and plays that also.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Nice!

[@scottb.4472]

It's really kind of funny and touching at the same time, Jukka and Kai are both amazing drummers and they are great friends and they're drumming techniques are literally polar opposites but they both make it work...... Which absolutely fascinates me

[@lesliecompton4061]

Welcome to the Nightwish army -- the whole group is world-class -- floors singing abilitys are the stuff vocal coaches dream of and well she is a lovely lady too

[@katconley2995]

Grab a listen to the whole band... it's amazingly worth it!

[@torpitsanas9010]

Thanks!! If you want to see Kai use more "side bass drums" that you mentioned check out "Kai Hahto Nightwish Drumcam 'Weak Fantasy' / 20.8.2016 Himos,Finland" Kais playing is always looked very easy.

[@deanabennett8461]

Excellent!

[@RonniePeterson]

Wintersun , Time. One of the greatest tracks of all time by any band in any genre. Oh and Kai on drums absolutely killing it like the rest of the band.

[@matthewpoburyny5147]

Sons of Winter and Stars from Wintersun would be a video to watch!

[@esaedvik]

Still amazes me to find people who've never heard of Nightwish xD Welcome! This is nearly child's play for him after Wintersun...

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Right on!

[@hajovelt3083]

Especially from "Sons of Winter an Stars" exists one or two drum-cam videos. Kai also called "a human metronome". Wintersun is his first Band before he gets an full member of Nightwish. He is a master of double-kick bass drum. Listen to him on the Wintersun-videos "Sons of Winter and Stars" and "Time". Breathtaking!

[@richardtomlin8704]

I know it's a drum focussed site but I do think you need to watch the full result too because playing amazing is only really amazing if it fits in with what the rest of the band is doing and the song needs. The guitarist with this band, like Kai, is a good example of a skilled professional playing what the song needs not just showing what he can do. We only get a full appreciation of that when you see the whole.

[@artiemeyer8803]

Kai Hahto warm up video is awesome

[@pasit1738]

In case you don't the knowledge, Finland has the most metal band per capita in the world. Wiinner is a village of Lemi, population under 3000 and 13 metal bands! Some of them world famous.

[@victorsupreme214]

TBH I thought it was Chile who had that distinction

[@ladinark1672]

No wonder it's called Lemi, I mean...you have to know who Lemi is anyway!

[@pasit1738]

@@victorsupreme214 I'm glad you doubted my knowledge. I had to check it out. Yep, we're still the n:o 1 🤘🏻😄 www.geographyrealm.com/geography-of-heavy-metal-bands/

[@pasit1738]

@@ladinark1672 😂 Yeah, there got to be a connection of a sort there!

[@metalzonemt-2]

@@ladinark1672 Yeah, for those who don't know, it's pronounced exactly the same way as "Lemmy."

[@jamesdrewel4057]

Original drummer was Jukka, who left from chronic insomnia 😥, completely different style of drummer, but awesome. Ghost Love Score 2013 Wakken shows off alot of his talent. Thanks.

[@ryanedwardson6541]

Yup. Both awesome in very different ways.

[@deepthought426]

I prefer the melodic style of Jukka. his drums sing notes. Kai doesn't even tune his rig properly

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@deepthought426 I think Kai and Jukka just wanted different sound. To me Jukka's playing was more human-like (evern so slight timing changes, uneven hit force) where Kai plays like a machine. I'm pretty sure Kai could play any way he likes so the sound he makes is probably fully intentional.

[@deepthought426]

@@MikkoRantalainen I kinda agree that Kai plays like a machine - if only he tuned his rig. Jukka's wishmaster sounds like machine guns. Kai's wishmaster sounds hollow in comparison - too little tension on the batter head.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@deepthought426 As far as I know, Kai was the drum technician for all the Nightwish studio albums that Jukka drummed so he actually tuned Jukka's drums for those songs! Therefore I must assume that the sound Kai currently has is fully intentional and not due lack of tuning.

[@mynanaleo]

Unfortunately, there are only snippets of drum cam from Nightwish's first drummer Jukka Nevalainen, who rode the set like a maniac jockey.

[@pro-v7500]

Seriously. He beat his kit like it owed him money.

[@Donna-C]

😹

[@scottb.4472]

Jukka literally played his drum kit like he was driving a tank.....kinda like what Hannes dies on stage for real......lol

[@kevinbrookover546]

Just adding to that, Jukka has always been my favorite drummer, but he's more Jon Bonham , his kit has more low deep powerful tone with him thundering away back there, he's a live performer with a natural groove to his drumming, I wish there could be a reaction to him with NIGHTWISH , I would suggest Ghost Love Score from Wacken 2013 or maybe one of their heavier songs from Wacken like Romantide, Song of myself, or I want my tears back even, there are no bad songs from that show and the crowd was AMAZING!

[@ianrossmusic]

I wish we had more drum-centric footage of Jukka as well. I like aspects of both drummers' playing... Kai has outrageous chops, while Jukka had that power and the ability to sit the pocket way back even while cruising along on the most metal tunes. I couldn't pick a favorite if you put a gun to me... Jukka wrote all that phenomenal stuff like the outro of Ghost Love Score for example, but then Kai and Marko took it to new heights live and made it basically my favorite moment in all of rock music. Gonna miss Marko... totally underrated on bass. Let these guys be their best drum selves.

[@exinferris]

As far as I know, Kai goes RLRLRL on the straight 8-trips. The alternating lead doing singles is easier in the end, although Kaitsu is such a machine that he could probably do it any way he likes. Apart from the Wintersun stuff, which is of course legendary, you could also check out some of his Rotten Sound stuff - it's a bit more of the brutal grindcore variety, but it definitely showcases his chops.

[@tccobden]

Agreed. I actually prefer RLRLRL triplets with 8th notes over the top to trying to match 8ths over 16th notes on feet. Find it sounds nicer and more dynamic as well as more forgiving when the ear doesn't detect any accidental hand foot flamming

[@BBEDrummerAK]

Oh man, getting to watch Kai at like 10% of his power. His Wintersun clips are awesome, then the even older Rotten Sound clips are absolutely absurd.

[@KatzenJou]

Interesting you mentioned left/right footed/handed, cause I only recently listened to an interview with Kai where he talks about how he practices. He mentioned he puts a lot into also training his non-dominant side in order to be able to play in a more versatile manner.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

That makes sense!

[@miikkahaaparanta4875]

Great analysis and simply giving the credits to the player. Not answering your question for more Nightwish but check also COBs Jaska Raatikainen.

[@mbo191]

Exactly how Kai plays a passage is not set in stone, it could be any kind of way depending on what he feels like on that day. Kai is ambidextrous, he is left handed from the start but when he started to learn how to play drums (1976?) he did it right handed just like everyone else. His drum kit is basically symmetric left and right side, Hi-Hat on the right is fixed closed, the left one has normal function. Cheers /B.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks B!

[@mbo191]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums - You are welcome! I was going to write more but something popped up and I had to cut it short, I'll bang it in now instead. I was listening to an interview with Kai Hahto a couple of days ago (for the second time), and he said that he usually learns how to play a song four ways just to keep himself interested (and challenged). First the "normal" way like a right handed drummer, then everything flipped over like a left handed drummer (explains the symmetric set-up, doesn't it?). The third way to play is crossed over diagonally and the fourth way is crossed over diagonally in the other direction. The Drum Cam video of "Weak Fantasy" has already been mentioned in other comments, from the same channel as this video (Antti Kangasaho). In the same interview Kai was asked what his favorite song was for improvisations and his answer was "Weak Fantasy". He knows the Lead-In bit and the Lead-Out to the song, but what he does between that is all a "spur-of-the-moment" thing. I believe he is improvising a bit in other songs too, the end of "Ghost Love Score" at Rock In Rio has a pretty massive outro. Kai is doing other things too in that song, like throwing his drumstick at a cymbal and catching it when it bounces back. Not just once but several times. Hope this didn't get too lengthy. Cheers / B.

[@billattercliffe8655]

Since Wintersun and the London Philharmonic Orchestra have already been mentioned, I'll go in a bit of a different direction with "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean" from Buenos Aires in 2018. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmOZo5Ksdr6EZrM This is not a drum cam, rather you're seeing the song from the audience's perspective, but it does have some very good close-ups of Kai and it's also one of the more drum intensive Nightwish songs. It's an older song from 1998 that has been redone with their current vocalist, Floor Jansen. This was during their Decades tour where they revisited a lot of their older material.

[@mbo191]

Oh Yes, I'll second that! I'm sorry but I can't find the right word for it, saying that Kai is a machine, a beast, a monster, a metronome, whatever - it just isn't enough, it doesn't cover it all. Let's just say that he is Kai. Cheers / B.

[@Santtumann]

Kai Hahto with Rotten Sound - Perfection

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll have to check it out!

[@sonderoffizierguck]

Well, and now everyone is waiting for Sons of Winter and Stars by Wintersun. Everyone. Believe me.

[@erikchristiansen1323]

I am not.

[@arturama8581]

Hi Andrew. What you will see on stage is more of a family making music, than a handful of musicians. They're always smiling, joking, teasing and supporting eachother. Apart from being good musicians, they're just nice people. I wish you a nice ride with NW.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yup this is amazing! I can feel the love and passion

[@arturama8581]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums You really ought to see this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGSxepmrZdapqsk It's a reunion of Floor's class at the 'Rock Academy Tilburg' and it not only gives you a better understanding of Floor, but it also gives you a little taste of the band, by comments about Floor by Tuomas and Marko. (It's got English (and Finnish) subs)

[@fruitproof115]

For me as a guy who knows Nightwish and even the song it's really funny and strange to basically only here the drums on this one. But since lead singer Floor often steals the show with her otherwordly performances it is a refreshing new perspective! When it comes to Kai, it seems to me through the double kick and his usage of the toms as if he would play a "constant fill" through longer phases in many songs which fits really nicely to the high energy / metal style of the band.

[@ethanavery4750]

I always alternate, rlr, lrl, rlr, lrl.. thats also what he's doing in the video. If you just jog and play a straight 4/4 groove over the top of those triplets it starts to feel natural. That's probably the best way to learn how to play double bass. Jogging with straight 4/4 over the top.

[@monluztrella]

Hi Andrew! So the KZbin algorithm is hellbent on throwing at me every Nightwish reaction video ever, and I just stumbled into this one. Most reaction videos focus on the same things but your perspective as a drummer is quite unique in the reaction videos world. I know absolutely nothing about drums but still managed to follow your commentary and I found it quite interesting, so I just subscribed to your channel! (Also, as an aside, your name sounded familiar and I just realized why... If I'm not mistaken, I went to school with your wife! Small world, huh? Tell her Almo says hi!)

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Genial! Que bien. Muchas gracias. Maite va a mandarte un mensaje :) Y gracias por tu commentario!

[@AudriusZu]

Suns of winter and stars for full display of ability, cuz this right here you see him having a holiday 💯 😂

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA!

[@fantsuh]

That IS insane

[@r.h.7633]

I had a thought of starting drum lessons because I find it very fascinating, but this makes me drop the idea completely.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

No way... go for it :)

[@Dodgevair]

So happy to see Kai get a bit of recognition here. He is in an awesome musical act. The Gavin Harrison of the genre is my thought. Thank you sir. He is tied down a bit with NW, but you should sample the Wintersun stuff. He cuts loose there.

[@itsmeagain1745]

It would be worth watching 'Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto'. He shows some of the drum parts from the Time 1 album - Sons of Winter and Stars (and explains the sticking on the last part of the video for one of the riffs). kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHiwk3t-nMyUZ5o

[@niksur1201]

This is an older Nightwish song. Nightwish is awesome but to see Kai really work you need to see his drum cams from his other band, Winterson.

[@MarStacey]

oh man. this isn't even scratching the surface. he's got so much headroom here. check out ANY Wintersun play through. He's a master.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I will!

[@pro-v7500]

“Is that tracks or is that a live orchestra?” - Tracks and also neither tracks nor live orchestra. The orchestral parts are a combination of back tracks recorded by the London Philharmonic (another group I forget) as well as synth patches by the keyboardist. Pleasant surprise here. Bit of a backstory/context to prep you before you start looking for a studio version of this song with Kai or something along those lines: Nightwish has been around for about 25 years. Original members all from Finland. Their main lane for most of that 25 years has been symphonic metal along side some power metal and folk metal. 95% of the music is written and composed by the keyboard most Tuomas Holopanein. Couple line up changes throughout the years: * vocalists in 2005 and again in 2013 * added full time 6th member in 2013 who plays everything (Irish bag pipes, flutes, whistles, guitar, bazuki, e-bow) * 2015 original drummer (Jukka) stepped down for medical reasons and asked Kai to take his spot Kai’s long time band is Wintersun and is still involved with it, but it’s fair to say his “full time band” is Nightwish. So I say all that to let you know any recording before 2015 of Nightwish won’t have Kai. Jukka was power and energy and Kai is precision and stamina. Live watching Jukka play, but technically speaking Kai is where it’s at. I’m not a drummer, but I enjoy professionals discussing their craft. New subscriber here. I love a good drum cam and look forward to more of what you got to offer. I highly recommend checking out some of their full tracks from live shows. Nightwish music is some of the most seemingly casual, but intricate music I’ve listen to in a long time. Shame songs over 3minutes never get radio play these days. Here are few rec’s to get you pushed in the right direction: Wembley 2015 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJDNmKyoobSBhsU - Shudder Before The Beautiful (Kai original) - Yours Is An Empty Hope (Kai original) - 7 Days To The Wolves (Jukka original)

[@ChadSmithakaCCG]

That 50K subs award is legit. Well played sir, well played. I am really enjoying your reactions. Non-drummer fan.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Chad! 🙌

[@TrumOlle]

To answer your question about 8th note triplets on double bass drums I would would say most drummers alternate right-left all the way through. I've experimented with playing LRR or RLR but I find it hard to keep the groove solid, but it's awesome for playing fast if you got your double strokes down. I'm pretty sure Kai alternates while playing 8th triplets and leads with his right foot when playing the patterns.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks for the info!

[@stevegosciniak631]

Regarding your double kick question. Personally I use 2 different approaches. I do alternate (triplets using single strokes) for an “in your face” feel. For more dynamic ( using ghost notes) I use Lrr.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Great info Steve!

[@tobiasjacobsen_dk]

Kai hahto “Ghost love score” from the same Nightwish gig

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll get there Tobias!

[@reverieofmusic436]

My foot pattern would be Right, Right, Left, Right, Left, and then repeat like that for the part at 4:10 or so, and just alternating RLRLRL when playing the part after that, straight-forward triplets. Hope that makes sense. Finland isn't considered part of Scandinavia, but it borders Sweden and Norway at the very top, so people often include it when talking about Scandinavia. Technically, it would be Fennoscandia.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks for the very informative comments. Didn't mean to lump Finland in with anyone!

[@reverieofmusic436]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums No worries at all! I'm not even Finnish, I'm Swedish. Just thought I'd clear it up since you asked. =)

[@elinielsen5556]

Weak Fantasy from Tampere show is his first live show with Nightwish....or so I have read. He starts with a drum solo. Awesome!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Eli!

[@michaelsmith2723]

The London Philharmonic does their tracks. They love when they get to work Nightwish. Kai was also Jazz trained in NYC and he'd plays jazz in his off time.

[@tanyabirdcherryfinland]

Out drummer is his student!

[@Idefixu]

There are so many Kai Hahto drum cam videos it's difficult to choose. Kai Hahto with Rotten Sound - "Perfection" (The name of the band tells a lot.) Crazy drumming!Kai Hahto warm-up solo. (I think it is during one of his drum clinics.) Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto. (Kai explaining what exactly he does when he plays "Sons of Winter and Stars" with Wintersun - a 14 minute song, towel needed! I saw many suggestions you should react to that song, Live Rehearsal at The Sonic Pump Studios is a great version. There is a drum cam video of the song too and a video from at least one of his drum clinics as well.)

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Nightwish uses orchestra backing tracks (arranged by Pip Williams and recorded from live orchestra) so all the players must play according to click track.

[@LycanWitch]

clean isolation because nightwish plays for stadium sized crowds or festivals, so all their sound goes through sound engineers then out to the stadium PAs or whatever

[@michaelsmith2723]

Kai also uses his left heel to hit the high hat and bass together or at different time.

[@marieskavo7159]

more NW and Kai Hahto pls. Try Ghost Live Score Live In Wacken 2013

[@anttihautala2845]

I'm a drummer and when I play triplets with my douple pedal my pattern i RLRLRL. I am right footed but every other first beat of the pattern is leaded with different feet. It odd at first but I got used to it pretty quickly😂

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Great Antti!

[@penaarja]

Wow, nicely isoladed and drummer as well

[@davidhansen2748]

Nightwish plays to a backing track. London Philharmonic if I'm not mistaken. One thing I like about watching Nightwish live is that they all seem to be enjoying themselves, having fun, enjoying the music, each other, and the crowd. Always makes you wish you were there so you could be part of it as well. As others have mentioned, Kai is the second drummer for Nightwish. The original drummer, Jukka, had to leave for health reasons. You'll likely get a lot of suggestions to see him (Jukka) in action, but (to me) one of the most impressive is their live tribute to Pink Floyd (not really a cover, they kind of make it their own), "High Hopes". There was some turmoil in the band (this was the original singer's last concert, but she didn't know it. She was offstage for a wardrobe change during the number), and Jukka very clearly has a migraine. You won't hear it in his playing, but he shows it in his body language. The whole piece is very well done, and sounds great.

[@js0988]

Nightwish, Kai Hahto's vacation place where he can go and relax and take it easy.

[@sarawussow3123]

Yes Kai is a flipping machine! I would like to request you see the original drummer jukka he was an animal on the drums! Much love! ❤️🤘

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Sara!

[@Pappa_66]

Wintersun or Nightwish Buenos Aires live 2019 "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll get there Jari!

[@pauljohnson7382]

Know what's difficult for Kai?.. Sitting Still... Great Reaction! 👊

[@JJASalazar]

Re: the foot patterns with 8th note triplets, straight alternating RLRLRL if it's just a steady stream of 8th notes with no rests, but if the pattern is broken up rhythmically in any way, I adjust the pattern to land on the right foot on down beats, or at least on strong beats. It's not much of a brain cramp if it's a steady stream, but the moment you have to actually start thinking about the pattern, I personally get lost if I have to lead a bar with my left foot.

[@johnlindquist1784]

Kai is a beast! I've seen him do blast beats at a tempo of 180 - that's just insane. For a true introduction to Kai with Nightwish, check out "Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean" live in Buenos Aires, 2018.

[@MrDrumhead33]

As i started to play with one pendel and kept time on my left foot. I land on my left foot on the snare. So 6/8 i start with my right foot and 4/4 i start with my left

[@WynEvans1]

Congrats on 50k andy! You're good people

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank you Wyn!

[@nickfortin1675]

You definitely need to see Kai in the Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars at Sonic Pump Studio video! Not only for Kai but because it's a masterpiece!

[@wylepeyote]

The way I play these patterns is RLRLRL with the triplet feel under the quarters on the hands…it’s classic double pattern.

[@clivematthews5296]

For a long one that really has him sweating try his previous band Wintersun with Sons of Winter and Stars. It's a banger !!

[@HamsteroidOver9000]

Nice video as always Andrew. For triplets personally I tend to go full single strokes cuz it's more comfortable to keep at it while adding tons of fills and accents in cymbals at the same time, but with a bit of practice it gets easier to do the same with heel-toe on the right foot in a 2-1 patern. Both ways work pretty well for tempo consistency. ;)

[@kevinbrookover546]

Kai was asked by Jukka the original drummer and founding member of NIGHTWISH to take over for him due to chronic insomnia, Kai has been Jukka's drum tech and they're close friends but very different types of drummers, Kai is more of the traditional ROCK drummer only extremely accurate with blinding speed and Jukka is more like John Bonham , he has a deep lower tone to his kit when he's thundering away back there and while Kai adds his own unique flair to it, but Jukka is a live performer," BOMBASTIC "with his facial expressions and exaggerated movements but the guys commenting here aren't hardly exaggerating about Kai's skill! watch him with Wintersun and you'll see that on display also he's got a video "LICKS AND TRICKS" where he shows you some of how he does certain parts, including swiveling his left foot to close the hi-hats while simultaneously playing double bass, it's mind blowing how he comes up with things in order to play what he wants to play

[@michaelsmith2723]

Nightwish's original drummer Jukka is fun to watch, a real showman on the drums, and a hard hitter. He developed a severe insomnia problem and had to stop performing. Kai was asked by his good friend Kai to take over for him. Nightwish is a Symphonic Metal band and as a 70-year-old American fan of European bands especially Nightwish I haven't listened to much else (well I did add SK and Japanese metals) in music. I started out as an Elvis and BeachBoy fan. Lol. I am a big Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa fan as well. Kai's idol is Buddy Rich.

[@pedroRodriguesMD]

This songs drums were composed by the previous in 1999, Jukka Nevalainen, a groove master in drumms! And style. But Kai is doing it 99% perfect!!

[@HaqieAlaikPrawirakusuma]

Kai hahto is a machine not a human 😊

[@kevinbrookover546]

It's been a while since you've done another Kai Hahto video, I think it would be fun if you did a double reaction because I also noticed you haven't done a reaction to NIGHTWISH yet, Kai is their drummer now, he was asked by Jukka Nevelainen their original drummer (who had to step down and retire from drumming in 2015 due to chronic insomnia) to take over for him as drummer for the band, Kai and Jukka have been close friends for years and he used to be the drum tech. for Jukka, who by the way is my favorite drummer and inspired me to get back into drumming . You've said you've never heard NIGHTWISH before so it would be interesting if you did a reaction to (NIGHTWISH GHOST LOVE SCORE at WACKEN 2013)and then (Kai Hahto drum cam GHOST LOVE SCORE) which is very good, it's him isolated on the drums during the song and compare the differences in style ( Kai adds his own special flare to it, especially at the end) it would be interesting to get your take on the differences, I don't think you've done a double reaction yet, might be something different and fun and you could see the entire band in all their overly talented glory on stage doing one of their signature songs in what I consider to be the gold standard for concerts when they headlined in front of 82,000 people that night but be prepared for Floor she has the most beautiful and powerful voices in music today!

[@renejensen7799]

Kai Hahto is a amazing drummer.. and he is also part of one of my favorite bands.. another drummer that i watched drumcam on, is Jay Weinberger from Slipknot, that guy is a very good drummer to.. one to check out to if you didnt yet..

[@arthurpoghosyan6863]

As many people said in the comments: check him playing in Wintersun

[@ralphgehteha9924]

This is an easy warm up track for him. No idea why he seems to be rather unknown in the progressive drummer world. He's easily on the level of Portnoy, Mangini, Donati and the likes.

[@musicfan9291]

I would recommend you listening to Weak Fantasy live. The drums are not isolated but it still shows him off very well

[@catherinebeaudoin311]

His performance in Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean with Nightwish, live in Buenos Aires in 2015

[@pedroRodriguesMD]

If we think less, and just do it without thinking. I have a NW cover here. Actually, 2. Kinslayer and Fantasmic ( yes, they are from Finland, where 90% of the music I listen to comes from).

[@drsmith1231]

When I first started using double kicks, i would always play triplets rlr rlr rlr.. Now as ive become more comfotable with them its easier to alternate to whatever pattern youre feeling. like rlr lrl rlr lrl...

[@jameshicks101]

R_RLRL - In 6/8 or tripleted 8ths right foot stays constant and the left foot hops in on 8th notes 4 and 6.

[@lisafoster4468]

They do not take an orchestra on tour, but they work directly with the London Symphony Orchestra to create their backing tracks. Knowing Tuomas, he probably scores the damn things himself, lol!

[@jroutasula5250]

If you check Nightwish live before 2015 you will see their another talented drummer Jukka Nevalainen. Nightwish with Kai Hahto, song "Devil and Deep Dark Ocean" live Buenos Aires is good choice.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank you!

[@marita2g]

Would be so fun to see you react to the live performance of this too, see how its put together. Its seamless.!

[@trafalgerdavis7839]

Triplets on the double bass for me is left-right-right. I do switch it up sometimes.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Excellent. Seems everyone has a different 'sticking' for it

[@anttiypya8264]

Please check out some Nightwish also!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I will!

[@GhostDrummer]

Well, I’m kind of an odd duck here. I’m left handed but right foot dominate. I play open on a righty set up. My personal set up has a main ride on my left, secondary snare, hats, main snare, usually one tom up, two down, and the kick slightly angled to the right as if I had double bass drums, multiple crashes, and a second ride where most right hand drummer would have one. I can play open and crossed on a right or left kit. My doubles pattern depends on what I’m doing, but I generally lead with my right for almost all beats. My left leads if I’m playing continuous doubles. I also lead with my left hand when playing 16ths or 32nds on the hats. That’s the main reason for the second snare on the left of the hats, but it also provides a nice filler when wanting to add aa little something else.

[@ryant3600]

Kai, Jukka and Mike Mangini are my three favorites of today...

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Great Ryan!

[@AngryBob4213]

Not necessarily for a video, but check out the studio version of Wishmaster. It was actually their old drummer, Jukka Nevelainen back then, but a bar or two after the first guitar solo there's a super interesting tempo on a ride cymbal (I think? I'm not a drummer myself so I'm not 100% sure) that isn't in the live version here that I've always found fascinating! Also it's not out yet but Kai was the session drummer for Darkwoods My Betrothed's upcoming album (their first in like 20ish years) and it's black metal so he'll have lots of blast beats! I remember seeing a short clip of him in the studio but I don't remember if it was on yt or fb or where I saw it

[@LAnhajjen]

i cant wrap my head around drums i have hard time walking and talk in the phone at the same time

[@santoslhalper6116]

What a fuckin awesome drummer!

[@wrenchbrewery3120]

the fun part....kai was the drum tech on nightwish concerts....so when Jukka decided to retire he put the drum tech in the band

[@ulfdanielsen6009]

Foot pattern: Triplet Double Bass Drum: R/L/R - L/R/L ad nauseam,- tempo dictates the speed of the eight notes feel ,- most often as a sixtuplet over a four count.

[@asxulxetesteronsxez538]

Regarding bass patterns, I’m fairly new to double bass, but I lead with whichever foot is advantageous. I practice the usual songs I do but only using my left foot and not my main foot at all. I’m thinking this will lead me to being able to lead and follow with either as needed. As far as triplets go. It depends on circumstance. If the timing is 3/4 I’ll alternate measure leads. Otherwise I double hit with my main foot.