Drum Teacher Reaction: BILL WARD | Black Sabbath | 'Hand of Doom Rat Salad' live 1970

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[@williamuptgraft1755]

You want a good laugh check out this guy's take on Vad from Jinjer. He calls himself Jmam the musician but has no videos of himself playing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKW7kHaZq9KYhq8

[@MadMax-mj1rr]

Zeppelin and Sabbath did not share the same musical backgrounds. Although they both had their roots in blues and jazz, Sabbath also brought the "big band" sound and "swing" to the table, whereas Zeppelin did not. Zeppelin is still my favorite band though, and they brought all kinds of different musical styles to the table that Sabbath didn't. Too many to list.

[@Roadking26]

I went to PayPal and it was $95.50 for 2 songs. Is this correct? This has to be an error.

[@kaynesantor8136]

I dont want to call him underrated, because theres legions of drummers that worship him to this day, but Ward never gets brought up in best drummer conversations. His fills are fast, and rarely repeat, even in single songs. He hits hard, and soft, with amazing bluesy/jazzy time feel. He must have blown people away back in the day. He's an amazing drummer, and an icon.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Those that know... KNOW

[@kenzisdad02]

He is criminally underrated... I saw someone make a good point once why Ward's name isn't mentioned in the same breath as Bonham's...: Production quality...JHB's drums were meticulously recorded on Zep albums....Ward's always sounded like an afterthought. Maybe budget? Maybe producer?

[@AeroDude73]

@@kenzisdad02 definitely a budget issue on their first album. Recorded very quickly

[@Nissardpertugiu]

@@kenzisdad02 depend the album . I think his sound is great and his playing wow, on technical ecstasy , never say die and heaven and hell. Sabotage, Master of reality are great to me

[@maddog8621]

He is definitely underappreciated. He contributed to progression in hard rock equal to Moon, Bonham, Paice, etc., etc.

[@davedmk]

Ward/Butler were an absolute juggernaut of a rhythm section. Often imitated but never equalled.

[@strattuner]

NEVER EQUALED,UNTIL SABBATH CAME ALONG,IT WAS JUST SO MUCH NOISE,SABBATH STANDS ALONE IN METAL

[@josephmcfarland8442]

Jazz Rhythm Section

[@DocLong1]

Quite possibly the best quartet that ever existed, creating entire genres with each song they released.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Incredible Kevin

[@chetp8423]

I’ve heard it said all of metal is just footnotes to Sabbath. I was obsessed with them when I came of age.

[@chrislennon9763]

Led zepplin

[@froyocrew]

Floyd

[@Mephilis78]

@@chetp8423 same. They are literally the reason I learned guitar, bass and drums.

[@shspurs1342]

Bill Ward, one of his greatest performances is definitely War Pigs Paris 1970.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I will definitely do that one :)

[@mojobag01]

Finesse amid the brutality, Bill really was one of a kind.

[@rickrichardson1141]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums you won’t be disappointed my friend

[@bamzz7801]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums So glad to hear as that one is brilliant. Bill beats the drums like they owe him money. Apparently he couldn't afford sticks so would grab broken sticks from other bands, turn them around and use them. Absolute legend.

[@33drummerr]

Absolutely right!! Bill is a freaking monster on that song 👍🏻👍🏻

[@killdozer3464]

"how jazzy the kit sounded" that's just Bill Ward's playing. He is Jazzy. One of the secret ingredients of Sabbath.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Total surprise for me

[@killdozer3464]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums wait until you hear him sneak a Buddy Rich style, Big Band fill every now and again.

[@dozie85]

And yes what a surprise right? Even thought it’s 1970 and basically every drummer was being influenced by jazz drummers like Buddy Rich. Did this guy live under a rock? I mean yea you’re from Australia but come on Mr drum teacher

[@reactionsaccount3955]

To me bands nowadays play at 100MPH, push the distortion to the max, growl like beasts and they still do not sound half as heavy as Sabbath. They still do not understand that it is all about tone & dynamics.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

No dark without the light.

[@josephpavone4574]

It didn't hurt that they cared about the actual music as apposed to the cookie cutter crap they put out today

[@memphismick7010]

Yes. Iommi was not that distorted like these days. It was the tone and feel that made it heavy.

[@yukas1ngas]

Sabbath always had those strange jazzy and flamenco notes. Bass that actually is main instrument that drives song and allows vocal and guitar to do 2 independent soloing parties. And Bill Ward of course.

[@MountainMetal]

They were arguably the most significant Doom metal pioneers in metal history.

[@sixslinger9951]

Sabbath was so ahead of their time and really are the Godfathers of Modern Metal. This song is epic.

[@markmilner842]

Bill Ward & Geezer Butler were an incredible rhythm section & neither one gets the credit he deserves. Early Black Sabbath albums are very bluesy & jazzy - a lot of swinging parts, but with a dark edge. They did use dynamics extremely well. Have fun in the rabbit hole. (BTW, when Ward left the band in the early 80s he was replaced, first, by Vinnie Appice - a very different, but also excellent drummer.)

[@denniseldridge2936]

Which brings to mind that great lyric so beautifully sung by Ella Fitzgerald: You ain't got a thing if you ain't got that swing. Words for musicians to live by hehe

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yes Mark. Real deal BAND rhythm section. My passion and favorite players are session players. But I love the individuality and character of band players

[@daveh9335]

Correct

[@graemeyetts3465]

One of the best rhythm sections ever. As with Chris Squire, Terry "Geezer" Butler has his own distinct sound , in part because he tunes down. Sludgy, full massive sound and I always noticed that the band still sounded full, even without a rhythm or Keyboard player. Listen to Iommi when he solos, that heavy Blues based sound always overwhelmed like a hard rock Tsunami. Surprisingly good songs. Definately a personal Top ten band for me, both then AND now.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

@@graemeyetts3465 Love it Graeme

[@kearneydillon4803]

The reason Bill's drumming has such enduring influence is the deceiving amount of swing he injects into his drumming. He wasn't just chops and technique, but a jazzy swing touch which imparts an amazing yet hard to copy feel.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I 100% agree with you

[@briancotter2666]

FYI.....Those aren't props on the tips of Tony Iommi's fingers. Those are prosthetics...He lost the tips of a few of his fingers in an industrial accident while working during the early years of him being in bands. He almost quit for good but came up the the idea of taping those fake tips on the end of his fingers and learned a very unique way to still play. That unique style is the Birth Of Heavy Metal. No BS.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Holy. S**t. That's nuts Brian

[@bamzz7801]

And so came the creation of light gauge strings and detuning.

[@dylanadams1455]

I truly believe he is the most influential guitarist in Rock of all time. It's always EVH vs Hendrix, Page, Clapton, etc. while completely ignoring the fact that a lot of guitarists don't even play lead. Who else invented a entire genre? Literally anyone who plays big heavy power chords from Nickleback (sorry) to the most extreme death metal owes it to Tony's missing fingertips.

[@Nissardpertugiu]

@@bamzz7801 detuning came on Master of reality

[@78vinyl97]

It was the last day of his job and had to work a machine he wasn't familiar with as the normal guy had gone sick.think it involved sheet metal and the part that flattened it came down on his fingers and chopped the tips off.the rest Is history.

[@garethlipyeart6520]

sabbath forever,so underated listening to them for 45 years ,till the day i die .bill ward shit hot drummer

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Unbelievable Gareth

[@SamwaisGanza]

The drum groove in the middle of Supernaut is imo one of the best beats ever. I loved Bill ward since i heard live at last.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'm totally blown away. More on the way

[@rickandgen]

Supernaut was John Bonham’s favorite

[@SamwaisGanza]

@@rickandgen I think Frank Zappa said supernaut is the heaviest song he has heard.

[@rickandgen]

@@SamwaisGanza yes, he did say that.

[@BurpleRX7]

Bonham and bill ward both hark from my area (West Midlands) Bonham was actually born 1/4 mile from my house in Redditch and they have erected a tribute statue in the town and give his house a blue plaque. Yes we are proud! Sabbath sound like many bands because they inspired each and every one of them! That post war depression sound inspired most of the bands that use guitars up until this day. And they are STILL doing it!!!! Truly genre creating guys, the thing is I feel they are still humble with it, I have seen Tony and Butch several times in my line of work and they are always a joy to talk to

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Amazing and insightful comments 🙏

[@chriscrim751]

Rage Against the Machine was heavily influenced by Black Sabbath as were literally 1000s of other bands. Trust me Andrew, you've only begun to witness the tip of the God Almighty iceberg that is Black Sabbath!

[@ronniefarnsworth6465]

Hundreds of Bands were influenced by Sabbath over the past 50+ yrs !!! : D

[@dylanadams1455]

literally any band that has heavy guitars. If you use a lot of distortion, have palm muted chugging riffs, downtune... it's all Sabbath and they were doing it 50 years ago!

[@graemeyetts3465]

Mr Crim. You are fully on the money. 😎

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I believe you Chris!

[@jasonsabourin2275]

YES!... I am JEALOUS of Andrew, like you said he gets to go down the Sabbath "Rabbit Hole", it Only Happens ONCE .☝️ ☹️

[@RobertAlexanderII]

War Pigs live in Paris will make you elevate Bill Ward to a whole new level of appreciation. You won’t regret it. Watch it ASAP, matey.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I will Robert!

[@dataolle]

+1

[@Frankincensedjb123]

First and foremost, I'm a Bonzo, Zep fan, but I don't care who you are or what band you like, if you can't appreciate Bill Ward, then you know nothing about rhythmic greatness. You throw in the Riff Meister, Tony Iommi, Geezer on bass (and lyrics) with Ozzy on vocals, you're talking an epic, all-time great band.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

100%!

[@scotchancestry9103]

I agree, Bonzo was awesome and did amazing things with his kit. But I always thought Billy Ward was ahead of his time. Zep will always be Zep, the makeup of Zep were masters of their craft, but different. BS also are masters of their craft but are in a different dimension from LZ. BW was an accomplished Jazz drummer, GB is a beast on bass, while being the whole rhythm guitar all with the bass, and TI taught hisself to play the guitar twice, then along came a bloke, OO who felt he had no talent, who compensated by his energetic antics. The rest is as they say history, I personally love Jack the Stripper/Fairies Wear Boots From that album. BW I feel was ahead of his time, and influenced many drummers that came after. Heavy metal bands that merge with a jazz percussionist, really lift the genre to another level by combining two very emotional types of music when done correctly. Two bands that come to mind are Mastadon, and progressive act The Mars Volta. BS will never be duplicated, but many have imitated, the evidence lies in borrowed or sampled music by other bands for over the last 50 years. Specifically from the music by the original lineup. Thank you BS, all of you!🤘

[@Frankincensedjb123]

@@scotchancestry9103 Zep, Sabbath, Puple the unholy trinity. These three bands were my youth. Throw in Yes and Rush, those five bands have some of the best HOF musicians you could ever find. Bonzo, Ward, Paice, Bruford, and Peart, my top all time drummer's club.

[@scotchancestry9103]

@@Frankincensedjb123 Agreed, all that you mentioned are indeed masters of their craft. Who are worthy of respect for their heavily influential contributions to music. Sadly I would also add that todays popular artists are mostly cheap imitators and rip off artists.

[@floreaciprian9742]

I always thought of Sabbath as the Roman gods and Zep as the greek gods. A lot in common, a lot different, but true greatness for both nonetheless

[@mikebunner3498]

Way back in the day. I saw these men in concert. Such energy. They would do a song, slight pause, and launch right into the next song. At one point Ozzy, Greezer, and Tony left the stage. Bill played the whole time. The crowd went wild! They are so very good. I was amazed that they could do this. TALENT..............

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Incredible Mike! Thanks for sharing

[@mora1948]

Bill ward was a jazz drummer before sabbath and even after, just like the early drummers of those years and has so much swing in his sabbath songs he plays. Just have to really listen and appreciate it. Hes not just a basher

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Totally! Great player with a load of facility

[@jayedwards1205]

Ward was an admirer of the big band era... seems his parents would have folks over every weekend and they would play the songs of that era ...Ward loved that music ... he broke into humming “ In he Mood “ during the interview

[@Scrub_Jake]

The live version of War Pigs (Paris 1970) is a drumming clinic! First blast beats I’ve ever seen… yes, Bill adds blast beats to War Pigs in that video haha legend!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll definitely get to that!

[@Scrub_Jake]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums thanks Drew I’ve ALWAYS wanted to see your reaction to that video! I’ll drop the link for ya 👇

[@Scrub_Jake]

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[@XA351GT]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Definitely listen to Symptom of the Universe Unbelievable drum work on that track.

[@Scrub_Jake]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums also just a heads up, Bill Ward definitely strays from the original track by just adding tons of extra notes and the lyrics are still being worked out it seems. There were a few version of the lyrics so it may sound different than the record but in my opinion it’s the best version 🔥

[@NewGuyMedia-xe7bm]

Buddy, that's not rock and roll... THAT'S METAL! The first metal band ever. Every current day metal drummer that's blown your mind on your channel, does what they do because of this band. I love led zeppelin, the beatles, YES, the doors and a million blues guys, but I put black sabbath at the top of the list in terms of range of influence. 99% of metal fans would vouch for that.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I freaking love this

[@bobwalshe1508]

The Godfathers of metal 👍

[@Imheretotestify]

Huge huge influence on metal/heavy metal. Rock and roll is a whole different story.

[@Thirteenwindows]

I'm with you 100%

[@zubrycky]

As a brazilian, the main groove of "Hand of Doom" sounds like a bossa nova to my ears.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Those rim clicks 👌

[@onerays]

The first Zeppelin and the first Sabbath album are very similar in vibe. Bill Ward doesn't really get the recognition he deserves, all the limelight of those years went to Bonham, but Bill Ward was a beast, and a great fkn sound!! War Pigs Paris 1970 , definitely one of his best performances ever.

[@abrahamramirez3980]

Bill Ward is such a great guy! Met him a few times and he's so down to earth and even a little shy. As for amazing drum performances, I'd say some of his most underappreciated performances are: - Cornucopia - Spiral Architect - Johnny Blade - Wishing Well - Sweet Leaf (live 1980 w/ drum solo) - Ghost Train (Bill Ward's new band Day of Errors)

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'm on it Abraham! Plenty Sabbath on the way :)

[@barrywhite828]

read his story. there was a time when he bummed change on la"s street corners for whiskey money. now he advocates for children, even writing childrens books, what a fine example of a human being that woke up and got better.....

[@gregg3356]

Black Sabbath are one of the greatest bands of all time!! You definitely need to verse yourself in their early music 1970'-1979

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Apparently so Greg! I love this

[@MrManfly]

Bill Ward was thrash long before thrash ever existed !!

[@shspurs1342]

@@MrManfly How is your comment true. When i Bill Ward is my favourite drummer of all time. With the fact that i simply can’t stand Trash.

[@lahaug]

The drumming on "Symptom of the universe" is some of the coolest I've ever heard.

[@ididthisonpulpous6526]

Sabbath's rhythm section is unrivaled imo. Bill Ward and Geezer Butler are two of the absolute GOATs. If you just count the number of top tier musicians who have claimed these two as primary inspirations is all you need to know of their talent.

[@vinniegorman8321]

One of my favorite bands and drummers! Bill was a huge influence in my early love for drumming. Absolute master on the skins!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Unreal Vinnie

[@nostrilnick]

Greatest rhythm section in heavy metal. Ward and Butler are just untouchable.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Fantastic rhythm section

[@mattbush1542]

I know there's often a preference for live recordings, but the studio tracks for this are simply amazing. The theme of it are the dangers horrors of heroin addiction, and the damaged society he sees around him. Plus, the dynamics are just incredible. Something that had never been put to vinyl before.

[@no_onein2024]

Plus I think Ozzy must've been high and forgot a alot of the lyrics and made them up as he went LOL

[@nodaysback8390]

"Visions in your mind.. are treating you unkind." Ozzy adlibbing on the spot..

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Love it! 🙌

[@chazzs4365]

These guys were approximately 21 years of age at the time give or take, there are so many bands with people in that age group but nobody was ever as good as these guys, lightning in a bottle. The Godfather’s of heavy metal, them and zeppelin

[@houseofshadow6380]

The time has finally come. I was introduced to Black Sabbath (and solo Ozzy) at a really young age. Somewhere around 8 or 9 years old, so 1992-93, both of my divorced parents decided it was time to hear the classics. My dad played me the entirety of the Paranoid album (where both of these songs appear), and my mother went with the new (at the time) No More Tears album. Life was forever changed for me. Now we get to see you in this discovery! Enjoy it, my man!

[@donallmccrudden4812]

One of the greatest rhythm sections ever. They don't get the credit they deserve.

[@cordellwalker7049]

On the paranoid album, Rat Salad has a full drum solo. It's worth looking deeper into that.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Cordell!

[@chadjohnson5577]

I never heard of a drum teacher that didn't know Bill Wards catalog. I was star struck when we went to the rock and roll hall of fame and some of his old gear was on display. LONG LIVE SABBATH!

[@tippedduke]

Whenever I experience the brilliance of Bill Ward, I frequently get the impression that he is going to stand up, launch himself into the middle of his kit and start tearing the shit out of it. Instead, he sits there calmly and does the same. This band, is simply put genre defining.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Love his powerhouse style

[@warren_r]

The album this comes from, Paranoid, is one of the absolute best albums of all time in any genre. Anyone who plays rock music should know this album front to back. Andrew, there's your homework! The whole thing of "two songs within a song" pretty much started right here.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Whole new rabbit hole. I freaking love this

[@megamaniac7402]

Two songs within a song is their minimalistic setting. They often go bigger

[@dylanadams1455]

the BBC "Classic Albums" episode on Paranoid was brilliant

[@nodaysback8390]

Started where?

[@godeplatformyourself7108]

@@megamaniac7402 yep, War Pigs is like 4 songs. Only the Who packed in more to a single track...

[@johnm5168]

I saw an interview where Bill said this was his favorite song to play. Also, the lyrics are totally different than the studio version of this song. It’s possible this was videotaped before Paranoid (the album) was recorded.

[@rokker101]

Bill Ward one of my drumming heroes always has been and always will be ... no one hits them harder than Bill ... soooo underrated and one of rock drummings icons

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yup. Totally underrated

[@dylanadams1455]

1) I love that there is someone from Auckland doing a reaction channel on KZbin (Kia Ora from K Rd!), 2) Check out the song "Black Sabbath" for the moment Heavy Metal was invented. It has a very unique structure and very dramatic drumming for effect. Also Children of the Grave for an absolute monster rolling triplet thing he keeps up for the entire track, or The Wizard for "Oh my God that is the funkiest drumming I have ever heard in a rock song. Ever."

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Dylan! More Sabbath on the way! 🇳🇿

[@SatoriEarth]

Very interesting to make the Rage Against the Machine connection as Brad Wilk from Rage has actually filled in for Bill Ward on the album "13" in more recent years. Obviously a huge inspiration of his.

[@krostandis8408]

Bill Ward was a legend! One of the best drummers of all time!

[@Ghostweaver]

Please do more early Sabbath! Bill Ward is an all time great, also props for pointing out the fact that Ozzy was a really solid singer! Also the similarities between early Sabbath and Zep are cool because the two bands were close friends and came up at the same time. They used to go to eachother's rehearsals. Bonham once broke Bill Ward's drum set because he insisted on jumping in to play a Sabbath song, "Supernaut" with the band, and ended up smashing the set at a practice.

[@ianc3576]

His fills , tempo changes and improvisation are unequalled I’m my humble opinion. The king of drumming .

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Legend! 🙌

[@garymarjoram7701]

Bill Ward and John Bonnem grew up together and where friends from a very young age and would help each other set up drums long long before they were famous, along with the other members of black sabbath they grew up and went to school and knocked around with each other

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Awesome info Gary! Thank you

[@warren4110]

Bill Ward always referred to himself as “ a percussionist “.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Sure. Drums are a percussion instrument.

[@warren4110]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums, I’ve seen a few interviews and if someone called him a drummer, he always said he was a percussionist. I think that he felt that he added a little more than just drumming.

[@tarinindell8217]

@@warren4110 Very specifically, he always said that he felt a drummer's job was to keep time. Bill thought of his job in the band to be reactive to whatever tony and geezer were doing, to (among other things) really help control the sound dynamics as well as acting as a pseudo conductor for them.

[@nodaysback8390]

@@tarinindell8217 True. But, he first started "reacting" instead of time keeping, to Ozzy's vocal delivery when they started writing the song Black Sabbath.

[@LoyalistCDN]

You say you can't hear crowd noise? I was at a Sabbath concert in ‘71. It was all about the volume. Between the loudness of the band and grass in the air, the crowd listened more than they do today.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thanks Thomas! 100% all about the music and I love it

[@BlueGoat682]

There was and ever will be only be one Black Sabbath. There are 2 firsts for me when it comes to the band. When I was in high school (1971) I dropped acid for the first time and attended my first ever live concert and it was the one and only Black Sabbath. That was back in the day of festival seating so we were fortunate enough to land a seat about 30 feet in front of the stage. I was in awe the whole time to say the least. I couldn't get over how much larger than life the band seemed to be but then again I'm sure the drugs must have played a part in that perception. 🙂 Side note: the opening band were interesting too. It was a band called "Bloodrock" and their claim to fame was a song they did called D.O.A.

[@wax.sabbath]

Great request and reaction. Bill Ward was a beast

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I freaking love this

[@caliokiegrownoklahoma4119]

One of the grooviest tunes, so jazzy and yet very dark. I love this one!! Used to wear it out!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Amazing stuff

[@mosesgarner2404]

This entire set is beyond cool. Seriously if you dig this song check out the rest of the set from this performance. Every song is raw and dynamic and the vibe is just simply that of a time that used to be in Rock/Metal music. Bill Ward grew up a Jazz drummer. It's why his drumming is so unique to heavy music because the dude could SWING.

[@mikebunner3498]

I had the honor of seeing these master rockers back in the 1970's. What a show, non-STOP. Their show melted your brain. So good. Andrew they did not stop between songs. They would play the last note of the song and launch right in to the next one.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Awesome memories Mike

[@keithgotch1546]

You have to watch War Pigs from the same show, and he was influenced by jazz. He tells in one documentary that he wasn't a technical drummer and that he was following what Iome was doing on lead guitar

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Thank you Keith!

[@kentmains7763]

Bill Ward is a very interesting person, poet, writer, singer and an exceptional drummer.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Oh right! Thanks Kent for the info

[@shawnwojcik8489]

I love that Ozzy changes the lyrics to whatever he wants, but it still sounds awesome!

[@jongoffinet8511]

Absolutely!👍🏻

[@johnnordberg6904]

Really loved the funky grooves of this song! It sounded funny when you said you might want to hear more of the band and go down the Sabbath rabbit hole.... considering a short time later you are swimming in that hole and lovin' every minute of it! 😀

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

100% John!!! Deep in it now!

[@mikebunner3498]

I mentioned that when I saw them they did not stop. At one point Oz, Tony, and Geezer left the stage. Bill continued to play. So much energy and effort, Good stuff. I enjoy your channel sir. I read a comment once that stated that these days Oz cannot string a sentence together. Yet, when he sings you can understand what he is saying. Great insights sir. Thank you.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I dig his singing here Mike!!

[@patjcarey]

I'm so glad you reacted to this Andrew. I think you can now understand why us old rockers are blessed to have witnessed this era. This is definitely a tune Yoyoka should cover as many people have asked. I loved your reaction to this and how Rage sound like Black sabbath (not the other way round). You missed out on so much being young my friend but its never too late to catch up and enjoy. Thank you.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I think there was so much invention and creativity Pat. Studio perfection was still a decade or 2 away

[@andrewplumb6544]

Grew up with this too. You have it so right Pat Carey and Yoyoka should try this one.

[@dfanman1]

I love this song, since the middle 70's when I first heard it.

[@RTEcalcite01]

Great reaction. I'm 69- Now you see why we got so excited about music the late 60s and early 70s. Saw Sabbath twice- 1971 then 1972.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

This is a real concert experience

[@ericskinner7355]

Not many drummers can match Bill Wards feel and the way he supports Tony and Geezer. And yes he loves jazz.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Absolute monster Eric

[@ericskinner7355]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums if you haven't already, take a listen to Wicked World from the first album. Bill absolutely swings his ass off.

[@mora1948]

If u want to hear some sick heavy drumming and even a straight jazz session from bill ward and the band that i bet you’ve NEVER heard before id recommend listening to the entire performance of their song wicked world from the live album (live at last)

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'm on it!

[@Jstraw805]

The Black Sabbath rabbit hole is one you won’t regret!!!

[@NelsonMontana1234]

The Wizard from the first album. His best work.

[@tomasfrkal6362]

Very strong rhythm section. The bassist plays relatively closer to the neck, so there is a reduced amount of higher harmonic frequencies in the overall sound. It goes so well with that huge sound of bass drum. It sounds like thunder.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I feel like he's approaching this like an upright bass.

[@XA351GT]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Geezer never played bass until joining Sabbath he was a guitarist and why he plays it more like a 4 string lead guitar than a actual bass.

[@toddlawrance4045]

Black Sabbath was initially a reaction against the "peace/love" hippie vibe of the late 60's, along with the MC5 and Blue Cheer; heavier and scary, a more honest reflection of the times. The lads in their prime in the very early 70's; Geezer Butler had said that people paid to see scary movies so they should write scary songs, the band name came from an old Bela Lugosi film (the band was called Earth before, a jazz/blues combo).

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Awesome info Todd. Thank you 🙏 Amazing insight with scary movies

[@adambnyc]

Black Sabbath is a Boris Karloff movie

[@toddlawrance4045]

@@adambnyc Karloff, that's right! Even own a copy of the movie and totally forgot. Excuse the error.

[@DoucheCake76]

Great video Andrew! Was hoping to see some Sabbath on here. Zeppelin and these guys did indeed know each other. Sabbath come from Birmingham England as did John Bonham and Robert Plant. They came up in the club scene before Zep and Sabbath made it big. There's an amusing story of Bill Ward banishing Bonham from using his drum kit because he kept breaking it hahah. Oh yeah Bonham was Tony Iommi's best man at his wedding. Look forward to seeing more Sabbath on your channel!

[@Thirteenwindows]

The perfect and most exact definition of Frankenstein Rock. This is solid gold and a complete masterpiece of rock music. This is a very valuable piece of Rick history.

[@stevemd6488]

I saw them around this time, they were two hours late, I think cause Ozzy had passed out. Other than that really good, was the first "heavy" sound most of us had heard. My drummer friends loved Bill Ward.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

WOW!!

[@scotchancestry9103]

That Ozzy story is probably accurate LOL

[@isaacbobjork7053]

They were like just 22 years old here, amazing

[@Ninang363]

Geezer Butler has amazing right-hand techniques! Heis really a bass hero of mine

[@briandeadmarsh7538]

Because you liked this so much, check out the entire Paranoid album which includes Hand Of Doom. Lyrics are fairly easy to understand and this song is about shooting up on heroin. A classic album.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I will Brian! 🙌

[@ozarksgoldwing8367]

Hand of Doom is obviously about drug addiction and resulting death. I've always loved the jazzy groove at the beginning!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yes!!! Check out my cover!

[@randymaloney7113]

If you want to hear Sabbath playing jazz be sure to check out Wicked World from the live album Live At Last. Just go to 5.20 through to 7.50. It is a thing of beauty.

[@mr-wx3lv]

I think a lot of the early rock drummers started out in jazz. And i think it's such a fascinating fusion of styles..

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

That's kinda what the drums were invented on. JAZZ!

[@mora1948]

You have to get more into sabbath and their work literally one of the greatest bands to ever live if not the one!! The way they changed as album’s progressed will blow ur mind

[@robdaniel3211]

From the songs Black Sabbath to Dirty Women is and everything in between is mind blowing.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I freaking love it already

[@robdaniel3211]

Listen to the song “Black Sabbath” which is the first song on the first album. Then listen to “Dirty Women” which is the last song on the last studio album Ozzy did. Once you’ve done that, you’ll dive into everything in between naturally. 😉

[@robdaniel3211]

Then, bypass the “hits” and try “A National Acrobat” and “Fairies Wear Boots”. This will give you a great studio base of Sabbath’s depth.

[@latentsea]

“Never say die” for another entirely different vibe...

[@justingoulet9714]

It's not just Bill Ward that was under rated . Example Barriemore Barlow (Jethro Tull). These virtuosos played for the love 💕 of expression The real musicians and listeners appreciate there contributions and awards mean nothing. Like critics hated progressive music (, Rolling Stone). Its the fans that count not critics. Bill Ward is a giant. Sabbath Rules

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Well said Justin

[@NewGuyMedia-xe7bm]

"Legends are Legends for a reason" Damn right!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

YUP!

[@dmoore0079]

Bill Ward was an absolute monster. His technique (especially his incorporation of the snare) reminds me a lot of Buddy Miles, but with a looser feel overall. They both hit those skins within an inch of their lives though!

[@notofthisearth23]

I love this version, it must be early in the songs creation as Ozzie is singing different lyrics to the recorded version. Possibly one of the first times they played it live. ❤️ Black Sabbath

[@daveminers3404]

That's what I'm wondering - WTF are these lyrics?

[@eliasparker5113]

If you haven’t already brother watch the war pigs version live! Same show I believe, but the drumming is absolutely fantastic in it and a lot of cool clips of Bill

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I'll do that one for sure Elias!

[@RedPillMode]

This here. Guess it is same show, Live in Paris? Incredible drumming, among other things. Black Sabbath created genres with single songs.

[@eliasparker5113]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Awesome, I'm excited to check it out with ya lol

[@Eurynomea]

Love that we get to see more of Geezer here. He and Bill are completely vibing off of each other.

[@RVWeekendsRC1]

"Takes me back to a time when I wasn't alive"......LOL! I can relate, I was 4-5 years old when this was recorded. I love BLack Sabbath. Ever since the first time I heard them and bought their LP vinyls , awesome to listen to.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

🤘

[@SauceBoss69]

Bill Ward is the best, dude!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Incredible

[@ike555je]

Fantastic reaction to an amazing band! Thanks Andrew!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

My pleasure!!

[@gruu]

I'm so glad you reacted to this man. I remember hearing this for the first time and was entranced..I bought the DVD right away I still hodl the opinion that this was Black sabbaths best recorded concert ever, I cant get enough of the "time capsule" as you brilliantly described it, golden stuff!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

I love this. Everything about it

[@gotham61]

Ozzy has two microphones taped together. Presumably one was for the live PA, and one for the recording. They would sometimes do this to avoid earth loops between the PA rig and the recording rig. Normally these days they would split each microphone feed with a transformer coupled splitter.

[@sanchezzz1]

Since your classic era is the early 90'splus and some of those bands were influenced by Sabbath, it's good to see and hear the origins and why they sound like them. What a blast!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Absolutely! I'm well aware my faves were influenced by the classic era. So this is a treat :)

[@javalily]

Bill Ward, Neil Peart, Mitch Mitchell, John Bonham, Danny Carey, Dave Lombardo. Quintessential drummers in music. THE best drummers of all time, IMHO.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

That's a great list

[@larryh.5229]

Bill Ward said that on one of those shows that was video recorded, Ozzy talked him into eating acid before the show😳😂

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA! Awesome Larry

[@talondavid9408]

When I listen to Black Sabbath...my neighbours do too!😁

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

HAHA

[@denniseldridge2936]

Hi Andrew! I'm only half way through your video here and I've already got a million things to say. I'm in total agreement with just about everything you've said, and with all of your observations. - The artists taking their time onstage to get things going: Indeed, the way things were conducted in rock shows were very different, and to our eyes, less "professional" in many ways. I've been involved in our local amateur Folk Club for years doing sound, and my observation is that shows from this period were conducted very much like amateur shows in our little FC. Later, as rock & pop went from big business to Massive Business, and of course technology improved, the "product" became much more of a product, and much more slick. Note however, that if you watch fan cam recordings of modern concerts, there are many things that the official live recordings will edit out which really should be left in to give a flavour of the true nature of the band. - The jazz-fusion vibes: I've said it before, that many drummers and bands of the "British Invasion" came from the "trad jazz" movement of the late 50's, and so many of them have a surprisingly jazzy feel to them. So it's kind of not surprising to hear Black Sabbath dipping into this territory. - Modern bands demanding the 70's live "feel": Yup, just pick up your instruments and rock out. It's really the "fix it in the mix" ethos gone mad in many ways. So little is about the actual playing of the instruments and much more about the plugins and digital effects applied to the little you do play. I remember reading a drum magazine about home studios. They had a small outfit that set up in an apartment, and said that the neighbours wouldn't be too bothered as they only used the drums for a few seconds at a time, as they were only used to set up drum loops. That made me very sad. There was no mention of everybody in the band jamming for hours on end, developing grooves organically, and having actual *fun* doing so. I'd be very tempted to submit this to Yoyoka as her next drumming challenge. And watch her shame us all by nailing it after going through it a couple of times **sigh**.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Well said Dennis 🥁🙌 This was a totally different era. I miss the jam aspect. And you’re 100% right on the jazz influence

[@briancotter2666]

Listening to the end of your reaction I see you make comparisons to newer groups......Full reversal.....just about every band since black sabbath has licks and riffs and sound that come from and inspired by black sabbath.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

💯👌totally agree Brian

[@briancotter2666]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums Thanks for the Reply... For Kicks and Giggles Check out 2 songs from Black Sabbath doing and Elvis Tribute....Live in Paris....same show as your Hand of doom Video....Chuck Berry Tempo and Total Black Sabbath Power. Also a "Flower Power" song or extension at the end of "Symptom's of the Universe" Not at all what you'd expect from both. Keep on Streaming!!

[@ericdravenX00X]

The Raw sound is just amazing!

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Yup

[@joseluisceballos355]

You did not notice that the drummer grabs the sticks backwards. Not to mention that the lead guitarist has part of one of his digits missing. Those men were amazing. The lyrics sound different to the studio version as well.

[@ice-iu3vv]

for some of bill ward's tastiest licks check of the studio version of "THE WIZARD". bill used oversize sticks 1969-73, and auctioned them off around 2020. i couldnt tell if these in this video were extra huge. you mentioned zeppelin a lot here so a couple points. they were both english bands that became immensely more successful here in the states than in their own country, where everyone loved beatles, stones, the who etc. sabbath is the proper proto-metal band, zeppelin did a lot more acoustic stuff. the 2 bands were all great friends at first, touring together and partying like crazy. until john bonham asked to play bill's kit, and broke through his snare drum. as a sax player, ive never understood how this would happen. please, as a drummer, inform the rest of us how 1 player would hit hard enough to break drums. does this mean they tuned their sets differently, and how so? or was john possibly doing that on purpose? lastly, you didnt catch many lyrics in hand of doom so, its about heroin addiction. give a quick look at the lyrics on line somewhere, theyre fairly deep. "INTO THE VOID" is another track that couldnt possibly disappoint.

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Hi there! Thanks for the info. Breaking heads is common. I've had a 7yo female student break a snare head within 20 seconds on a snare I've played for years. Usually poor technique involved. They are designed to take a beating. Sometimes it's ready to go if it's taken a beating for long enough :)

[@kearneydillon4803]

@@AndrewRooneyDrums correct. Funny, I have played for 36yrs now, and only broke 1 head. I broke a drumstick tip off without noticing and the splintered stick end cut the snare head. I use large sticks and hit hard , yet never broke a cymbal or head. Technique counts for a lot.

[@rikuperhoniemi8639]

Bill ward was furious at Bonham because John used to jam on Bills drums and always break something😄

[@AndrewRooneyDrums]

Haha! 🤣🤣👌

[@gggghhgggghbb]

Like I said best reaction ever! Someone really gets it. 👍🍀

[@srudine]

Love how good this video was. I saw them in the late 70's in Houston at the Coliseum. Amazingly great RNR band.