Anger as Identity

[@shawnmariestanton]

I was there and though I initially felt reactive to his comments in the chat, once you started to engage with him it became a wonderful mirror for me to see that I often do what he seemed to be doing -- seeing someone or something only through a preconceived lens. A great reminder to myself to continue to allow the lens (beliefs) to drop away.

[@Maart-je]

To me it felt like this person cared deeply about what he was expressing. It felt like a similar feeling with which women express the importance of feminine energy sometimes. With a lot of momentum because it has also been collectively suppressed and not seen for so long. He touched on something that often (unconsciously) lives in settings like this. Not always because of the speaker, but because of the idea that can be unconsciously in the listener. "That someone else has or knows more than you. That you are not there yet". Because of the high energy I think this person did not realize yet that you and he agree: "To trust yourself so utterly that the world falls away" 💜🙏🏻

[@alyssapoulin4755]

I was angry yesterday (“justifiably” too, which doesn’t ultimately help). I accepted it was there like a weather pattern, said ok (accepted as best I could) and really felt it deeply in my body. I shared it with an emotionally mature friend, and had a lot of release. All in all a few hours. But the most uncomfortable part of it all has been illuminated by your video. I was doubly mad at and didn’t want to “BE the angry person” which compounds resentment and resistance. Recognizing that as simply another identity is so freeing and doesn’t feel personal like I have to be that one next time I’m angry. Thank you, Angelo! Also, you were great at the conference when that guy spoke up. Sharing what was very valuable about his perspective and being willing to go there. Compassion in action. See you in NC 😊

[@Gamikom]

I was there, and I felt a sense of sadness for the person who posted those harsh comments about you and Eshwar. It seemed like his past negative experiences with spiritual teachers left him feeling very negative, leading him to assume that all spiritual guides must have bad intentions. I truly hope he finds a way to move past that perspective and see things with more openness🫶

[@ianmccall1789]

I joined the stream right when that conversation started. I thought he brought up a lot of good points w.r.t. spiritual persona and cult dynamics. I was surprised when he continued to lump you together with those less scrupulous teachers. It was hilarious when you replied, “did you hear us talking about entering the unknown?” The unknown is really where it’s at. I believe he was fixated in knowing that you and Eshwar were just like the others he had been duped by. And, as a result, was unable to hear the direct pointing to the unknown you and Eshwar were giving. But, like he said, we are exactly where we’re supposed to be and i’m sure he took away some useful reflections from this conversation. Cheers!

[@Rivulets048]

We love drama. Hell thats why im here commenting 😂 When letting go of things that are unreal, online drama is close to the top of the list

[@darbydelane4588]

Love our Angelo.

[@PSOLDE]

How do we overcome the identified thought of 'doubt'? And I guess along with that is distrust, which ultimately leads back to doubt. Cuz that's a tricky one, if it turns out to be true/correct to have not trusted then everything I've been moving towards and moving to release/realize crumbles away and then what. And then I'd be totally lost and my distrust would amp up even more but to myself. I wouldn't trust myself at that point and I think my whole life would crumble and disintegrate. All I will have known is lies, where do I go from there. This is probably the snaggiest identifier that I hold. How do I fully TRUST and let go of that doubt? It sneaks in every possible little tiny miniscule crack that it can

[@cindylmartinez]

If you want to become whole, let yourself be partial. If you want to become straight, let yourself be crooked. If you want to become full, let yourself be empty. If you want to be reborn, let yourself die. If you want to be given everything, give everything up. -Lao Tzu

[@lunkerjunkie]

i see anger as resistance. we resist what threatens us. anger un met is just looking for an external excuse to express itself. (trolls) I know, I am one. I agree with you, letting go of anger I'm claiming is scary. usually because I haven't met the threat I'm using the anger to resist.

[@richardsnyder6413]

Thank you 🙏 ❤

[@nightlily3855]

Angelo, I just listened (with my heart) to your video Seeing With Your Heart and just wanted to say thank you! I have no words how deep it landed. So simple. So obvious. Drop the struggle and resistance- It is right Here. ❤

[@eduardocastro1060]

Thanks Angelo🙏

[@Wilson-Lloyd]

Thanks Angelo this is super helpful. Really good pointers on identity with thoughts and those sticky emotions. Been trying to experience and sink into such emotions on their own lately, anxiety, anger, overwhelm, and just kind of give up into it if that makes sense.

[@liberated_AF]

Sounds like a nice mutual admiration society you have there.

[@juliesheard2122]

My whole family had/ have problems controling anger. I know it is not "me" . Will it ever go?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

Well for you it's sure possible, as for others it's really up to each individual to do their work

[@birgit8996]

Just a "judgment", thought... but what does that matter ❣️ ... All reactions here, as a comment, are just thoughts ... including this one ... and who really knows ... what is??? ❣️

[@Roland-k6g]

Hello Birgit!!! 😃 .... Who really knows what "is" any answer is just another thought. Thoughts are sneaky; they make themselves seen personal or important. They provide the narrative that gives rise to themselves. in the end, no "answer" truly matters when there's this simplicity, this presence. 🤗

[@birgit8996]

@ 🤗

[@birgit8996]

@@Roland-k6g and yet it doesn't matter at all... whether there is an answer or no answer 😁

[@Roland-k6g]

@@birgit8996 where would any answer land?

[@birgit8996]

@ nowhere❣️

[@tristanmctaggart4623]

Yeah ok. I have to imagine myself as two. (kind of) It is the body and the mind (or relative and absolute it is the same thing.) I am not a single or separate self. That is what the body was believing in (oneness perfection, ect), and it takes everything literally too, it only believes in absolute truth, it knows but it doesn't know how. The mind is completely the opposite, it doesn't care what the truth is, but it thinks it can know it. The body believes the mind can know, it feels like certainty despite knowing I am making it up. The body it angry at awakening, the mind did not know, but the evidence is obvious so now it does. Not fear, ignorance. It was being lied to, or that is how it perceives it. There was a belief that the will would go, but it is not the case. The mind believes in will, the body does not. So the whole struggling with yourself bit is obvious, it is not really like that any more. You call it bodymind, that makes sense. It is the same truth, non-separation if you like. I am not scared of the absolute (there is still an I). The body doesn't care about awakening or truth, so it can be whatever makes sense. There is a much easier solution, and it is kind of obvious, but the body insists the mind can know, and the mind believes it and doubts it. I found proof that it is not the case, but it won't go because it is a true belief. There it is "I can't get what I want knowingly" or something like that. It is a belief, a constraint on reality if you like. I did feel it by the way. There was a kind of immovability to it, like a force, the anger that is. If anything, I have identified with truth and love I guess, maybe everyone has. It certainly creates a juxtaposition. There was no experience of love until after the knowing of truth, that is how I'm doing it. To the body the experience of love is the truth. That mean time has been misunderstood, I don't know what means exactly, but it is in experience, and yet nothing begins or ends. But it can end, the human experience, that is. That is why I am doing this, and not getting what I think I want. Nothing happened by the way, and I didn't refuse. It is probably just me that is upset. This is a kind of shadow of that, where I just do whatever I guess the truth is. It didn't look good though, I tried it right away almost, I had no idea why I was posting nonsense that I didn't even believe. I don't usually comment on anything. Something needs reconciled and I'm guessing it has to do with time because reactiveity I guess. I gave up on love because it seemed impossible. That is why I can know, but we are looking for the middle way. You got ages ago right? The body did. It has just been conflating everything so the mind can catch up. I called it the power of delusion, but it is also the truth of non-duality (kind of.) It is how I'm letting myself put it together, you could call it the truth of suffering if you like. I needed to see how I was perceived by the truth. I was overlooking the obvious again, but it was not scary to realize it just wasn't experienced because I assumed I would know if that was the case or something like that. I don't believe in hate by the way, it is too much effort to construct. It is more like confusion or mistrust but I can see how it could look like that. The same is true outside, what people want is essentially the same, but we assume an other with malicious intentions. We are realising evil by doing so, but there is a better explanation. We already want the same thing so it can't be that hard really. There never was a problem with concepts, I'm not sure what that was all about really. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense.

[@tristanmctaggart4623]

Or just anger. I have sacrificed my only true desire. I won't surrender and I won't die. Good luck

[@RainFall-wz2yp]

5. 500 million layers of dust and dirt and hell in my place, has not been cleaned out since beginning of 2023, by mom

[@life13525]

thank you...processing layers of anger in the system ...is this necessarily identification?? bringing light to a shadow side is exposing identification but it is done from a different place I feel?? from a n non-identification...or at least lesser identified field...what about the kind of anger Jesus was expressing (sorry to bring that up...do not mean that in a kind of biblical way)...but a healthy authentic passion almost..when unjust things might happen (the response might be different amongst all so called awakened beings)..just wondering if it is always identification....Adya also wrote a book about "resurrecting Jesus"..(you don't become an all loving/accepting Mother Theresa as is portrayed in old Christianity).there is perhaps a more embodied anger. coming from a deeper integrity??..whats your view on that...?

[@Bsowow]

🎉

[@immanuelhennicker9300]

How and where can I see your Group Sessions and participate? :)

[@Inlakesh396]

Im spanish and i would like contact with you for speak and learn please

[@EnlightenedSchmuck]

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE F*** YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!! Otherwise, great video. 🙏

[@AlastairGames]

why does youtube put the best comments at the bottom?

[@danielratiu4318]

I saw you during that exchange. Right after you start sipping from a can of Coke. That make me wonder why, why would someone guiding other people feels the need to hide behind sugar. It was not something related to thirst it is something to fill you, to give you pleasure. You took several sequential sips. You should investigate why you need it. Is it the dopamine, is something missing?

[@oneness1976]

Being awake is not to say no to every pleasures. He enjoys coke. No need to make a story about that.

[@kiryubelmont3222]

I love the weirdness of this comment 😍. Keep going, don't let the ego take the reigns and control your experience.

[@geovaniraffaelli4508]

Where does your assumption that an awakened person cannot enjoy any sense pleasure come from? Religious dogma maybe? I'd really inquire into this.

[@jericosha2842]

Lol we are still human dude. Nothing wrong with enjoying things. It's about understanding what your relationship with manifest reality is.

[@heckygoose]

Ways you can tell that someone else is egoically attached, apparently: -A belief that one has transcended identity -The expression of anger towards a person who claims to have transcended identity -Sipping a Coca-cola