Anglo-Saxon and Norse Paganism: Were they the Same?

In this one I'll be talking about the religions followed by the Anglo-Saxons and the Norse Vikings and whether these were the same or different.
Also it's Christmas so from now until Christmas I will be posting a video every day as a little gift to you all!
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[@wayneb1357]

I've always wished that Germanic pagan gods of Northern Europe and British Celtic gods were chronicled as thoroughly as Greco-Roman gods.

[@charlesroyal5125]

The truth will exist at the bottom of some museum somewhere. When I read about Roman Britain they name drop the local celtic gods from time to time. maybe i will take note from now on

[@LeoPlaw]

These traditions were oral, so when the Christians brought writing to the North, and of course, they're not going to record the details of the religions they sought to wipe out. The Greeks and Romans had writing and left traces of it everywhere, especially since they both built large empires.

[@timlane4949]

Wayne Belk look into the eddas

[@anonarchist1936]

The christians did write about the religions they would then wipe out. For example much of what we know about Irish Celtic gods (Tuatha Dé Danann) is from writings by christian monks. Though they would often modify the stories so that they fit better with a christian world view, gods would become angels, or historic humans - perhaps worth of saint hood. The initial religious intent can often be gleaned from these writings as they were not altered consistently (and sometimes barely at all).

[@boahkeinbockmehr]

The germanic gods only developed due to interaction with the south europeans and their pantheons. There are traces of an even older germanic religion worshipping the all-mother also known as earth-mother. Actually her story survived in the probably oldest germanic story in the german fairytale "Frau Holle" (mother hulda), which contains one of her many names, all her insignia, her special powers (well connected to all places in the world, allowing sight and direct access; power over the seasons - by making her bed she makes it snow; and mother of all, especially the ones without an actual mother as in the fairytale). Hence the presence of priests worshipping the gods and shamans worshipping the earth in germanic societies.

[@taxandria1941]

It's beautiful to see how every Germanic language has Germanic names for each day. Our old culture may never be forgotten.

[@Survivethejive]

Saxon raiders encountered christians when they first raided Roman Britain in the fourth c. Then British Christians when they invaded in the fifth century. The Gregorian mission was sent by Pope Gregory the Great in 596 and by the end of the seventh century 100 years after there were STILL some Anglo-Saxon pagans. We estimate that the process of conversion was completed in the 8th century, 400 years after they first came into contact with Christians in Roman Britain, however they were still invoking Woden and the Esa in magic charms as late as the 10th century in Lacnunga which is 600 years later - but it is debatable whether nominal Christians invoking pagan gods in spells can be classed as true paganism.

[@johnkerr2438]

People having Christmas trees in there house is a a type of Germanic(Saxon) paganized Christianity. In 2019 that's 1600 years later!

[@kingpendaofmercia6947]

What about later law codes that explicitly ban Stone-worship and Tree-worship? They seem to suggest some form of non-christian belief system was active.

[@UstashaMe84]

John Kerr Exactly! They did a good job fooling us but we still practice our faith that is natural to us. Even if we know it or not.

[@kitchenwarsandfood]

Last pagan king in Britain is Isle of Man 682

[@kingpendaofmercia6947]

@@kitchenwarsandfood Arwald in the Isle of Wight and Penda in Mercia were the last two pagan Anglo Saxon kings. The isle of Man is Celtic

[@sternenfahrt999]

You should at least mention continental Germanic (Saxon, Alemannic, etc.) paganism, which was probably closer to Anglo-Saxon paganism than the Norse one. The timeline that you show would make much more sense like that too.

[@MMadesen]

Agreed

[@robertwalker9130]

He does at around 3.47

[@arnljot9030]

The norse are still a germanic tribe (North germanic)

[@christiancristof491]

Well, yeah. English are germanic too. Germanic, not german.

[@boahkeinbockmehr]

Multiple north germanic tribes. Only places like england, which were conquered by a couple of germanic tribes can be seen as a country of more or less one germanic tribe. In the homeland of the germanics there are many different ones (e.g. germany: franks (central west), saxons (north), baiuwars (south east), allemanns (south west), frisians (western coast), thuringians(central east), swabians (central south) just to name the main ones, which also all again can be broken down into the dozens of smaller tribes this big tribes are comprised of)

[@TheCookieGamer523]

Hell even the Normans are technically germanic since they were just Norse men who were given a bit of France. No matter how you look at it Britain has basically been ruled by germanic people for around 1,500 years. Quite fascinating

[@ewweg]

@@TheCookieGamer523 You do realise that the germanic tribes are past outbread neanderthal tribes from 12000 bc, re-migrating europe from the balkans, following the melting ice. They were the only people there, accepts for som surviving spanish and french tribes, which had different DNA. Denmark was fully populated at 8000 bc, so the religions/folk-tales also split far earlyer then sed in the video.

[@cubicinches18]

@@NEIGH6699 Don't forget the Britons and the pre Celtic northern Brythonic tribes as well as the neolithic

[@toysintheattic2664]

Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday

[@historywithhilbert146]

Named after the Gods as are Friday and Monday :)

[@williamcooke5627]

And Sunday.

[@historywithhilbert146]

I missed that one :D Thanks for adding it to the list :)

[@305camino]

In Dutch : Dinsdag (Tiwas), Woensdag (Wodan), Donderdag (Donar), Vrijdag (Freia). Especialy Donderdag is very clear. Donder translate to Thunder in english. The god of thunder was Donar :)

[@johanneqont999]

In Frisian Tiisdei, weonsdei, Tongersdei, Freed :)

[@DarkBrawlerLink]

Nice video! I was not taught about the Early Middle Ages that much at school, and as a history student I find that period fascinating. It is great that you're dedicating yourself to it :) Keep with the nice work!

[@historywithhilbert146]

Thank you very much! As do I, and it truly is a fascinating period as well! Thank you for your positive feedback, I hope you can enjoy my other videos on the Early Medieval :D

[@smarshaalemarsa5324]

lovely gift! Merry and jolly christmas in advance

[@historywithhilbert146]

Thank you, I'm glad you think so! The same to you, merry Christmas and (almost) Happy New Year!

[@francescolaruffa3441]

Thank you for this video!!

[@historywithhilbert146]

You're very welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@TheGrantross]

Thanks for awesome videos

[@NSwozza85]

Really good. Thanks!

[@historywithhilbert146]

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@techgamesMiquel]

Nehalennia? *starts headbanging to Heidevolk*

[@historywithhilbert146]

DaFuMiquel Hahahaha :D

[@josephpeck8723]

I am glad to find more Heidevolk fans out there!

[@edasss100]

Im Lithuanian and in my language Tew (Tevas) Tewaz means Father👍✋️💥

[@UstashaMe84]

Interesting isn’t it?

[@UstashaMe84]

Shawn White I guess you are right! 😂👌🏻

[@MumleDK]

That might just be a "false friend", as the Balto-Slavic languages weren't affected by Grimm's Law, where fx an initial "t" in most modern Germanic languages would be derived from a "d", which was kept in Lithuanian and many other Indo-European languages. Fx, English "two" or Danish "to" - both of whom start with a "t" - are cognates of Lithuanian "dù", Russian "dva", Latin "duo", etc. starting with a "d". Likewise the name "Týr" or "Tīw" - descending from Proto-Germanic "Tīwaz", which also had the more general meaning of "deity" - is cognate with Lithuanian "diẽvas".

[@edasss100]

@@MumleDK Thank you for opinion, Teiwas /Tiwaz = Dievas .... the Beginner / Creator.

[@MumleDK]

@@edasss100 By the way, I'm very interested in the Baltic cultures and their history and ancient religions/folk lore and languages. Especially Lithuanian language as it seems to be very conservative compared to other modern Indo-European languages. If I wasn't too lazy, I would like to study and learn it someday :P

[@MMadesen]

Its actually quite interesting to see the transition of the names. Wodanaz became Wodan in german and so also old english, and odin in norse, ðonar became donar in german, the english thunor is like the link between donar and the norse thor.

[@leeandrew4776]

The queen British is Germanic

[@alltnorromOrustarNorrland]

Very interesting Hilbert!

[@LegoMonkeycat]

Thanks for the Christmas gifts! I think you are a fairly small channel now, but with the quality of the videos you will surely grow bigger. It's nice how you focus more on the broader history than the weapons and armour, and you upload regularly with decent-length videos. Merry Christmas!

[@historywithhilbert146]

LegoMonkeycat It is my absolute pleasure, it's the least I can do to repay the kindness and devotion shown by my subscribblers through the first (almost) year of the channel. I'm humbled by your saying so, I hope we grow larger as a channel and a community but I'm sure we will in good time and with your support. I will endeavour to continue my style of video that you all enjoy in future :) Thank you very much for your feedback and kind words.

[@LegoMonkeycat]

History With Hilbert Thanks Hilbert! Your videos are very entertaining. I eagerly await the next ones.

[@historywithhilbert146]

LegoMonkeycat I'm really glad to hear this! Comments like this make all the hard work worthwhile :D

[@schuletrip]

Say no to all Cults of Abraham Embrace your Pagan past

[@themindbowler]

All your gods are weak! Great Cthulhu well swat them away like fly's. And teach humanity new ways of madness and murder

[@rogermcguinn1585]

Thor would split your false god in half

[@a.t.8013]

cthullu stands no chance against thors mjolnir and odins great spear.

[@IanSwart]

You're a disgrace to our forefathers who abandoned the false idols of paganism.

[@harleytodd9413]

Ian Swart your a disgrace to your bloodline for worshiping a false middle eastern religion

[@garytucker5748]

Thank you Hilbert.

[@lukewhite8930]

Didn’t mention Nerthus, and most Anglo-Saxon Kings that we’re pagan claimed descent from Wodan

[@williamcooke5627]

If you can get it, read Brian Branston's book 'The Lost Gods of England'. He assembles most of the known evidence and then fleshes it out, fairly judiciously, from Norse sources and Saxo Grammaticus, the Danish mediaeval historian.

[@williamcooke5627]

But his theory about Balder, based on 1950s comparative anthropology, should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

[@historywithhilbert146]

That does sound like a book to tickle a historian's fancy, I will look into getting this. Thanks very much for recommending this William, it sounds really interesting! Also thank you for warning me about the section about Balder, though I expect it will still make interesting, if not accurate, reading :)

[@butterandjellymytoes]

Digital Format perhaps? Just asking.

[@nilsscholz4474]

in the northern germany where I live (Schleswig=is a well known viking town)from what I know- Odin was called odin , further south he was called ouden and further south wodan. a part of the Northern anglo tribes who were living near the jutes(danes) were culturally the same. jutes , anglo ,frisi and saxons are germanic tribes. when you go a few thousand years back these tribes would be identified as norse culuture. with their own differences.but anglo and friesi where very close over a long time , expec. before karl the great wipe out the paganism for saxons and many anglo. same with the frisi tribe, where the culture is closer to the jutes. you can hear it in the language still today when you listen to flat german.

[@TheCookieGamer523]

Funny enough Hilbert made a video where he mentions that all the groups you mentioned looked the same, worshipped the same gods and spoke the same language. Only real difference would be the way they sounded which is probably why Gods like Woden have 50million fucking names because their accents made it sound different T

[@anthonyeagle1944]

@@TheCookieGamer523 Have link to that video? I'm eager to find it :)

[@HYDROCARBON_XD]

Jutes weren’t Danes,danés were north Germanic and jutes west Germanic

[@HYDROCARBON_XD]

You are very wrong,they weren’t considered Norse a thousand years ago,lol,they were proto-germanic people,norse are a descendant of these people,not a synonym lolllll

[@ragnarblobarr9567]

Cool content! Subscribed! I educate on this platform as well, and I look forward to more!

[@blackbass4u2c]

I'm a Anglo Saxon who found Wodin and understand how it is important to culture in the United States.

[@user-ky6vw5up9m]

I learne about him from Marvel Comics

[@joereynolds475]

@@user-ky6vw5up9m unfortunately beig hijacked by whit su premecists i was gonna a tatoo in elder runes and wodenes symbol but i diddn. as an antifashist this whould have to be explained alll the time. Being proud of ones heritage and being a nazi are two sepreate things but wankers are trying to equate them.

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Connect with Robert Sass (aldsidu.org and/or Saxon Heathenry on FB) to get connected with US Anglo-Saxons following a historical reconstructionist Heathenry path.

[@Cypresssina]

Simon sent me here. Great channel!

[@historywithhilbert146]

Ah brilliant :D Thanks for the compliment and for checking out the video :) Welcome!

[@marshallhall4347]

I would love to see you do a longer video than this one I feel you only scraped the surface and would love to learn more

[@historywithhilbert146]

Thank you very much for your feedback and kind words! I will make more videos of this nature in the future, don't you worry ;)!

[@colinp2238]

Yes I was surprised when it closed so quickly - almost in mid-stride.

[@brand_holt]

I think Eostre was associated with the hare rather than the rabbit. I saw a documentary once that said the Easter Bunny actually comes from the mad March Hare. Male hares go a bit crazy jumping around and fighting in an effort to gain a mate during the Spring.There was also a ground laying bird that would lay it's eggs over the same period. These two things combined to form the idea that the eggs were being delivered by the hares. At some point the hare was changed into a rabbit and the Easter Bunny was born. Of course rabbits are well known for their fertility so the idea that they are the animal of a fertility goddess doesn't sound unreasonable. Later still the eggs were changed into chocolate, and that made everyone happy.🥚🐰

[@elgranlugus7267]

Eostre is cognate to Eos, a dawn goddess, and both names come from the proto-indoeuropean word Hausos.

[@maniplefringe]

You would also need to ask when and why the Easter bunny spread to other European nations.... He is definitely a presence in all the north-western European countries today.

[@crimsonthumos3905]

Easter doesnt come from Eoster, nor did the Christian feast day even originate in the North. It comes from the Hebrew word Pasca which most Christian countries still say to this day. Easter is merely the English version of the word, so the claim it comes from a pagan Germanic goddess is nonsense both linguistically, geographically and chronologically

[@Dorschtl1]

Best christmas gift ever!!! Black on dark blue is not the best combo in a presentation ;) I feel bad for criticising every video, but I mean well! Love what you do and am very grateful!!!

[@historywithhilbert146]

I'm glad you think so, it was time I gave something back to all the loyal subscribblers :)

[@marlajacques6947]

Christians were the ultimate party-poopers

[@Nnnnn636]

Marla Jacques anglo saxons were basically spartans before Christianity. They were a warrior culture that valued honor, bravery, friendship, loyalty.

[@garygnu4629]

@Marla Jacques *are

[@Lobito-shi]

Andrew Winchel I agree 100%. Christianity's blatant stealing of other religions and holidays really speaks of how little integrity Christianity really inhabits. Even the papacy is just a shameless ripoff of the Roman Pontifex Maximus. Even in its core existence, it's a ripoff of the much older Judaism. Charlemagne is just another example of the so-called "Christian love" that they preach. It's lies and by believing them they deny reality. Christianity is no religion of love, it is a religion designed to conquer and conquer while subduing the inhabitants. They have no love for those that do not conform to their doomsday preaching (Even when they tell you they do, their scriptures tell otherwise). It was a shame that Christianity ever spread beyond the middle east and removed Europe's ancestral roots.

[@Lobito-shi]

@Carmicha3l What do you mean? Jesus himself was a jew which clearly means that Judaism itself has to have existed before Christianity and is therefore older

[@vikingsailorboy]

They still are

[@voltaire5427]

Do you have any more content on religion localized to Friesland/The Netherlands? I’m just beginning my journey down the rabbit hole of understanding my origins, and frankly I don’t know where to look. Thanks.

[@DukeoftheAges]

Where did you get the last pic? Looks beautiful.

[@chachamoon2831]

Thank you!

[@Ratchet4647]

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! But they're too short! Just when I feel like we're getting to the meat of the issue you end the video. So much more could be explored into the subject but it's cut short. Do you get what I mean? Don't think I'm demanding you change your methods. I just felt I should give you feedback on this.

[@karenhanania9014]

Timeline is very helpful.

[@user-kk5ol5vx9l]

The Angles, Saxon, and the Jutes were from Denmark, and Norway also Northern German.

[@nationalworkerism2129]

Saxons are German

[@curtisderbyshire1541]

Netherlands as well

[@curtisderbyshire1541]

@Islamist Reactionary إرتجاج الإسلامي They are not Middle Easterners

[@curtisderbyshire1541]

@Islamist Reactionary إرتجاج الإسلامي Anglo Saxons are Nords, Nords are Germans, they worship Norse, Norse means the way of the German, Odin is a Norse Pagan God, not a Christian God, Nords use the complexed German alphabetical table, they don't indetify as Slavs or Middle Eastern or Arabian, their genetic structures ressemble closer to Germans and original Celts(not Breton Celts),English is a Germanic language developed by the Anglo Saxons and their descendents, Anglo Saxons are Norsemen

[@curtisderbyshire1541]

The so called giants that the Romans incountered were the Nord and Celt Germans, Germany also had a Scandinavian flag first

[@leslieshafer6343]

In this video you've outlined when the various groups split, but not what the differences were between them. I am assuming there is a follow-up video, but in looking through the list if your videos I can't find the follow-up to this one. Could you please provide a link?

[@theforestmysticsingh6138]

I absolutely love the city-scape picture in the last bit. Can i ask where that is from?

[@earthraven]

Nice video. Found it by accident. subscribed. :)

[@historywithhilbert146]

Thank you very much, I'm glad you accidentally found and still enjoyed my video :D Welcome!

[@barbaricvm0]

I truly love the way old religions worked,even though I myself am a Christian.To see and draw the paralels between all the people that inhabited europe from north to south west to east,to see how simlar they are since they all come from the Indo European roots is truly fascinating to me personally.And i hope you would do more videos on the religion on the people that inhabited europe at least in late antiquity maybe :D Great vid Hilbert.

[@learningoldgermaniclanguages]

In Old English, 'e' at end of words is a Germanic schwa, therefore a 'uh' sound. Great video.

[@historywithhilbert146]

Thanks for the feedback :)

[@Hurlebatte]

I've read that it was in the Middle English period that "final E" became a schwa.

[@kopassz]

I just saw this video of yours. Can you tell me where you got the picture at 0:51? Thanks! Keep up the good work!

[@Grunt61]

I enjoyed the video. Now, off to Valhalla for heaps of Mead and dialogue with Shield maidens. It doesn't cost any coin to dream.

[@victoriashapiro1659]

Currently watching! I’m researching paganism as I want to practice it but want to get my information right before I dive into it!

[@steffironside]

⚔️ 🛡️ ⚒️ Super Interesting! Thank You ! ⚡🐺⚡

[@predatorez77]

A very good video cheers! I'd like to ask though for any info about the possible origin of norse religion from Asia minor and the people&lore that migrated toward scandinavia (probably) around the time of Troy and king Priam... This is suggested in a new release of Snorri Sturluson's Edda, part of the icelandic sagas

[@historywithhilbert146]

No problem, thanks for watching! That's a video I very much want to make in the future when I've read a few more books on the subject to further enhance my knowledge on the topic. Though I think the Troy and Priam stuff is made up because almost every European nation tried to claim descent from Troy or Atlantis or Egypt at some point in their history ;)

[@colinp2238]

Snorri may have added that to disguise his writings as history and not theological so that the church would not ban it.

[@apudharald2435]

colinp2238 bullskit. He was one of the local church leaders himself. Coincidentally, the recent issue of Crash Course Mythology quotes moden scholarship that debunks the idea of undue influence. To name but one thing: the most obvious area for contamination, Ragnarok, is conspicuously closer to its vedic counterparts in India than to the Christian apocalypse, strongly suggesting that both are rooted in proto-aryan mythology, rather than in the abrahamic tradition, for another, the sense of time. The old norse religion, like hinduism, has a sense of time in which past and present are interchangeable, whereas the abrahimic religions have a sense of time that spirals forward.interchangeable: that what will happen has happened before. Forward: what will happen is what never happened before. Things that should be the same if both stories had been interpreted through one mindset are instead so different that different mindsets are at work. The counter-theory that you propose has no evidence behind it, other than the ignorance of authors with no working knowledge of non-western religion.

[@apudharald2435]

Georgi Kovachev suggested in the latest version? Every story in that context agrees on this. Trouble is, other claimants for the Priam is my Ancestor-claim include the English, the Romans and the Turks. Everybody with a settled view on how to write Priam without Pi rho iota alpha mu, has made that claim. Coincidentally, you can find a fairly old translation of the Heimskringla in the Gutenberg Project. It contains the Asian claim.

[@matsrosenquist4620]

Well I am not sure & you might already be aware of it but it also shows what day where named after these god. Wodin, Wednesaday, Odin Onsdag, Thunor Thursday, Thor Torsdag, Tiw Tuesday (hmm) Tyr or Tir Tisdag. Then you Frei/Freia Fredag but I do not know these in English.

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Friday is named after Frigg, not Freya or Freyr.

[@lfricmunuc4534]

May you do a video about Christianity in Anglo-Saxon Britain. For example, how did they covert, how were pagans treated, what was the conversion rates over the years? Also, may you discuss monasteries, the combination of Christianity and some pagan traditions, such as the 'Dream in the Root', and the difference between the early Celtic Christianity in Northumbria and the Catholic denomination in the rest of England?

[@Thracian117]

I cant get a solid answer anywhere.... Even if I Google it I get redirected to saxon, but (I'm aware of the differences between the jutes and later viking/norse) what religion did the jutes have? Being from Denmark would they have had the same religion?

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

Rather shorter and less full than I was expecting. BTW you know the AS's referred to their gods as 'os'? This word has always been mysterious, but it just occurred to me it could be a West Germanic version of Aesir.

[@davidcheater4188]

Just to mention, the suffix "ir' is a plural. One Aes, many Aesir.

[@rulebritannia3147]

Large Anglo scandanavian here, great work I've nearly watched all of your work. Loving it

[@donnyskinglongliveme]

Fantastic and interesting video! I have a question, but not related to your own commentary. Why are the Angles in England often lumped together with the Saxons and Jutes? It's really offputting & casts doubt on the authenticity of the rest of the book/video. I read and watch tons of things that refer to 'the Saxons, and Saxon language' As far as i can tell, the Angles were by far the most numerous of the 3 peoples who arrived from across the North sea. There is even a settlement not far from where i was born and bred near the river Tees, which would be Angles, but the artifacts in the museum from this settlement call it Saxon and the grave of a woman there is called 'the Saxon princess'

[@Richard-dg7bf]

Which are the best books and web sites for Seidr? Specifically Anglo-Saxon seidr.It's more the mystical side that interests me as opposed to the more mainstream 'religious' aspect.My library so far includes Jan Fries and Runic John picked up in charity shops.Not sure of their credibility??

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Contact Robert Sass. He is the leading authority on historical reconstructionist Saxon and Norse Heathenry. He has a youtube channel and a Facebook group (Saxon Heathenry and/or Germanic Heathenry) plus his website (aldsidu.com). Many of his group members are Anglo-Saxon historical Heathens.

[@dachuxing]

Do you think the Tolkian world came from a lot of what you touched upon? Even the Tolkian languages of his characters?

[@jainamaden156]

@binghamton Young Yes Tolkien even got one of the elven languages from finnish. LOTR is based on nordic mythology

[@theurmel744]

Hey guys, read Bernard Cornwells Arthur Saga, and then his Uthred Saga, afterwards you are up to date. 😁

[@jareddebeast]

If I’m right wodan was also the germanic version of Odin but we might have spelled it Wotan I’m not 100% sure

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Yes, they are all one, all the same: Wotan, Wodan, Woden, Wuotan, Uuodan, Odin, and Odinn.

[@38-jishjilson89]

Regarding the Easter-Eostre part, the rabbit isn't a symbol of Eostre. The myth of the Easter bunny originated in Lutheran Germany, centuries after the English ceased worshipping Eostre. Also, according to Bede, Easter comes from Old English Ēosturmōnaþ i.e the month of April, which of course is named after the godess of spring and dawn. Her name is cognate with the Latin Aurora, Greek Eos and Vedic Ushas.

[@crimsonthumos3905]

Exactly. Furthermore, Easter as a Christian feast day didnt even originate in the pagan North. Nor do most non-English speaking countries even say Easter. They say a varient of Pasca which comes from a Hebrew word for Thanksgiving. So his claim is entirely false on multiple fronts

[@timflatus]

The Celts had different gods with different roles like Taranis and Teutates. The Luwians/Hittites had a god named Tarhuntassa with similar qualities to Taranis and Thor, so taking Edvardus77's comment about Lithuanian into consideration, it would seem that these two date back to Proto Indo-European times.

[@timflatus]

Is Nehalennia something to do with Salt?

[@elizabethhenry6605]

Isn't Eostre really only mentioned by Bede, with no earlier references to her at all?

[@michael3088]

to be fair before this point not much about Saxon(and to a larger extend Germanic as a whole) native religion was specifically written down so there's alot of things we don't know so being the only mention doesn't mean anything to the contrary being it originally a largely oral tradition but the fact that she's mentioned in the first at least lets us know she had an important enough roll for it to be written down. there would have been dozens of gods originally with less or more varying from place to place in the same way that of what we do know between Norse and Anglo Saxon religion are to each other only on a smaller scale.

[@anthonyyates9003]

I have a question how is Easter near any sort of harvest? Like the growing season hasn't even started you should be planting in the spring when Easter is

[@josephpeck8723]

I was under the impression Easter originated partially as the Celtic holiday Beltane.

[@hcn6708]

"The English worshipped Thor, Odin, and other Norse gods before converting to Christianity." Destroy them, Thunor.

[@leeandrew4776]

Are the English Germanic Saxon Slavic Nordic race?

[@chasethemace]

@@leeandrew4776 What?

[@leeandrew4776]

@@chasethemace I like to getting info on paganism how do people become one☝join this culture

[@chasethemace]

​@@leeandrew4776 The English are Germanic, if that's what your question is

[@leeandrew4776]

@@chasethemace yes thank you

[@Daniel-um6vy]

This thumb is not their vernacular architecture, though down is similar, you should show their images when they were not influenced by greek-roman expansion yet(only a suggestion)

[@robnurse1522]

The conversion dates were a little off , but other than that good video ....

[@FedorSteeman]

Want more!

[@historywithhilbert146]

I've got more videos about the Anglo-Saxons which you can find here: kzbin.info/aero/PLWHb-MbcZ9kqwA4-WHVJLNlHBRkCWJ1aK

[@tiberiusG]

I'm guessing Thunder comes from Thunor??

[@brindlebriar]

But was the Eostre bunny chocolate? Or was it just a regular marshmallow bunny covered in pink or yellow sprinkles?

[@recreationalnukes4251]

4:23 yeah sorry to break it to English heathenry movements, but Fenrir seems suspiciously similar to the Finnic surma, so the Norse likely got him from their neighbors after splitting from west Germanic pagans.

[@3rdeye671]

Is there a Loki figure in Germanic mythology or is he exclusively a Norse mythology figure?

[@tobiashaurum3611]

I find it intresting how nordic folkmusic is also made in germany and the german language.

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Many groups sing in Old Norse, like Norway's Wardruna: the best of the Nordic folk scene.

[@holdenedwards8506]

Studying up for AC Valhalla

[@FirstLast-fr4hb]

Next year, a yule log video!

[@historywithhilbert146]

Good plan!

[@rateeightx]

Huh, Thursday Sounds More Like It's Named After Thor Than Thunor.

[@josephpeck8723]

I mean, they are both variations of the same deity.

[@jflaugher]

Christians in Britain named Easter after Eostre not because of the goddess, but because "Eostre" was also the name of the month of April in that part of the world. In other parts of the world Christians don't call it Easter they call it "Pascha" in Greek and "Pascua" in Latin - which both mean "Passover."

[@RickMitchellProvenanceAndRoots]

Did you have more to this vid at first? When talking about Seaxnot, it seems you cut yourself off. I'd be interested to have you be Paul Harvey and tell us "the rest of the story." ;)

[@historywithhilbert146]

Rick Mitchell I think my audio settings in this video were a bit choppy, although I'm pleased to say I've fixed the issue in the next video :) I'm afraid there was nothing more that I was saying, although I can talk for hours on the Old Gods and Anglo-Saxon Paganism :) Thank you for your interest :D

[@jovanweismiller7114]

How could the Anglo-Saxons invade 'England'? The country took its name from the Angles. The Tribes invaded Britannia!

[@Ho3bust3r]

Jovan Weismiller british=brutish The angles invaded the brutes.

[@siveth8149]

Red Ribbon no, the goddess of the island was named Britannia, as was the island, and so the inhabitants name was derived from said name

[@TheNo1there]

Angle-land, Anglaland

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

Just think, if it weren't for the Angles, England would be called Sexland.

[@johnbland1585]

semantics

[@matthewmann8969]

Very alike

[@MadTwatter7]

I heard somewhere that there is no equivalent of Loki in Anglo-Saxon paganism does anyone if is this true? If so, are there any theories as to why this would be the case?

[@louisbaker4362]

Chocolate Homunculus it is largely unknown whether Loki was considered a major god in Anglo-Saxon belief. What is known is that he largely appears in stories where he is the god of deceit. According to the below source, early Christians considered him to be the devil. www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/kids/pagan_gods.html

[@MadTwatter7]

Louis Baker That's great thanks!

[@jimbombadill]

its a good topic...although i dont think people should only focus on the different gods because they were NOT the main thing with the old paganism of either culture. First and foremost these were ancestor "religions" and the gods were a part of it as they viewed the whole universe and worldtree. There were plenty of other beings included in this, elfs, giants, dwarfs, gnomes and so on and they all were given offerings. Another important aspect of the old paganism is that it also mainly was a shamanistic worldview ...those connections are most lickly to have been much more strong than the different gods.

[@chopsandarchie7015]

Was not Eastre's form one of a hare and not rabbit?

[@rsknol]

no Baldr the Kings of Lindsey claimed him as an ancestor?

[@wcapewell3089]

Did the anglo saxons have an equivalent to the Goddess Hel at all?

[@octaviusdelmonte9019]

It's funny how anything not associated with the Mediterranean ie Rome is given the label "dark" and "barbaric" or the euphemistically invective "pagan".

[@youngoutlaw5150]

So their like the Greek and Roman Hellenic?

[@imperialinquisitormaximusv3645]

Eostre wasn't stolen, it was incorperated or adapted into christianity. Religions/Cultures evolve over time for good or bad.

[@crimsonthumos3905]

Easter doesnt come from Eoster, nor did the Christian feast day even originate in the North. It comes from the Hebrew word Pasca which most Christian countries still say to this day. Easter is merely the English version of the word, so the claim it comes from a pagan Germanic goddess is nonsense both linguistically, geographically and chronologically

[@benmason1469]

Ragnar and Hengist and Horsa My Ancestors are both descendants of Woden Odin and Freja

[@darkshadows6328]

Norse Vikings and saxons sounds like we got ourselves assassins creed Valhalla speaking of which that symbol with the interlocking triangle is used for the abstergo logo

[@QuranLion]

And our Anglo-Saxon language would go on to become the foundation for western society. Epic status.

[@veronicalogotheti5416]

What is proto germanic

[@Knowthyself-zf3fy]

All this knowledge

[@adamroodog1718]

How did saturn get a day of the week named after him when all the others are germanic?

[@apudharald2435]

Adam Roodog scored a dramatic header in the 90th minute of the match, which did not substantially alter the 6-0 score ( 6-1 instead, BFD. ) in the final between Werder Bremen and AS Roma, a dramatic header that was applauded by both the home side and the visiting tifosi.

[@adamroodog1718]

I know now. Aparently the days originally come from the roman system, sun, moon, mars(i think it still is mardi in french), mercury, jupiter, venus and saturn. And the germanic tribes put their gods in with the same powers. Tyr the wargod wodin the psycopomp, thor storm god and freyer love sex fertility. Correct me if im wrong but i dont think the norse had a father time in their pantheon. Just on a side note the medieval Scandinavians futher away from rome called saturday washday, once a week is surgery clean compared with the rest of europe for the midle ages

[@bertieschitz-peas429]

Eostre's symbol was a rabbit? i thought the Normans brought the rabbit to Britain, perhaps you meant Hare.

[@anthonymongan7141]

Are there irish neopagenism

[@davidderuiter726]

Ingvaeonic Peoples or the people of Ingy Freyr the God that came from the east

[@JohnMiller-iu2sx]

6:32 what was that! 😂😂😂 I was just statting to get into the video, then bam! You were done! I feel like your ex girlfriend! 😂😉

[@leeandrew4776]

Is the English language Germanic are we saxons or Celtic Slavic Nordic do we have viking blood in us England Britain

[@gothnickify]

Oden also

[@bryceirwin9919]

as an Anglo-Saxon pagan I can firmly say we are not the same as the Norse pagans

[@bryceirwin9919]

@The patriotic mongoose we have no Valhalla, no Loki, no Ragnarok, Baldr isn't a dead god like he is in the Norse tradition, we celebrate Mōdraniht the night before Yule to honor the goddess Mōdru (a goddess of motherhood and ancestral mother figure), Odin (Wōden) may or may not have horns (sources vary), we have Bēowa who is a god of beer and wheat ritually "murdered" and made into beer and then reborn, Hengest and Horsa who are related to the "Divine Twins" of Proto-Indo-European mythology, so yeah not the same

[@bryceirwin9919]

@The patriotic mongoose no

[@NorthernNorthdude91749]

@@bryceirwin9919 You worship the same gods as we do.

[@everygamersdream72]

Eostre was spring goddess, fertility = spring time. Thanks for informative video though.

[@colinp2238]

I think you will find that the animal associated with Eostre is a hare not a rabbit. Think of the saying mad as a March hare when in mating season the male hares fight. That is around what we now call Easter. Hares are rarer than rabbits but similar (larger). It is easy to think that people seeing the animals representing Eostre and having forgot the connection would call them the animal that they is more familiar to them. Hence the Easter bunny.

[@eastbound2003]

Super late reply. In Dutch we have a different translation for the easter bunny where we do use the Dutch we do say hare instead of bunny.

[@hansbreslau8119]

Wodn is not the Odin of the Eddas, Thunar is not the Thor of the Eddas But Forseti is Fosite

[@NeoMicy]

Wotan, Donar, Tiwaz

[@wolfgangweber2516]

grown up as a Münsterland Catholic, I found my hail in sri Aurobindo. he synthesizes everything. the gods exist he says, means even our gemanic god exist, but that is one plane, the other plane is the im personal, the unmoved Brahman, the ultimate existence, the absolut ONE, and now in this ONE the Manifestation of man, Evolution of minds, overmind, supermind and further, means we are DIVINE itself. what a high Concept of men, we are higher than gods in reaching plane after plane, Religion will go, superman is coming, solving all Problems. and still - I meditate towards our ancient gods, just saying hallo to them