Angron COMFORTS His Dying Son

[@AbysmalRapture]

Angron: "I am free" Khorne: "Well yes, but actually no"

[@StressmanFIN]

Loyalist World Eaters: "I know we are, but what are you?"

[@XRyanK]

Khorne: Yup, you are now free. Free to serve me.

[@dumbnamegoeshere550]

He didn’t read the terms and conditions

[@juiceboxbzrk]

Better devil 🤷‍♀️

[@leandrocastello309]

Khorne: "more like... under new management"

[@ToySouljah.]

And the irony now is that he is forever bound by Khorne to never die, to never be free, to always fight and rage.

[@Broomer52]

The sad part is he only ever feels happiness in those brief moments of death. His dying breaths are always peaceful and his rage grows even more each time he comes back

[@hawkshot867]

Right back where he started... As the lord of a slave pit. Fighting for the amusement of his superiors.

[@viderevero1338]

Basically a more extreme version of the butcher's nails, from the highest "noble" of bloodshed there is. A literal daemon god. Angron's story is one of my favorites and its very Greek tragedy full circle esque in a setting wherw most primarch's arent so well written. Angron's simplicity (angry slave wants to be free), lends itself to such a rich character.

[@AdeptKing]

Khorne not only kept the nails on him I think he made the effects worse.

[@Broomer52]

@@AdeptKing any Khorne worshiper basically has psychic Nails in their brains. The moment you become one of his your aggression rockets. So for the World Eaters and Angron they’re basically Anger Squared

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

I love how, even in his dying moments, Kauregar still calls Angron “lord” and “father”. Angron even refers to him by his name, and as his son. He doesn’t hate Angron for what he did, and he dies not in the arms of a murderer, a butcher, he dies in the caring embrace of his loving father.

[@prdurnion83]

Thanks, I'm crying now.

[@High_Tech_Priest]

Arve warriors

[@peculiar]

That's a lot of assumptions.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

@@prdurnion83 :)

[@callumrichards7347]

Kauregar wounded the primarch. He fought well, and he did not give up his beliefs. He died for a cause he believed in, free from the chaos gods as well. Unchained. One of the few things his father respects.

[@onlyxenolord7494]

The fact that he managed to wound a primarch even Angron is wildly impressive.

[@sixpathskaiokentv]

You mean ESPECIALLY Angron

[@Elthenar]

It's not that crazy IMO. By primarch standards, Angron was a lightly armored berserker. He was all offense, all the time. One of the World Eaters best would have a decent chance if he lived long enough to swing.

[@David9413]

​@Elthenar I feel like the impressive part was managing to hurt him and not dying instantly in the process. Staying alive and conscious long enough to see your damage is no small feat against a berserker that "berserky".

[@TemptationsEnd]

Especially a fucking demon primarch! Like that’s a feat and a half right there! He’s literally already Demi god like before he became corrupted. Though he should be all but a god after, basically the only thing he’s missing is the emperors personal field generator lol

[@eqnx371]

I think he let himself die

[@jeremyvenville1531]

Bro said “stand proud, you’re strong”

[@bloodfest8510]

Angron looks into the sea: *I wish to he free mikasa*

[@nathengriffiths-holland7038]

Well put and we’ll used. Angron definitely feels like Suskan in the way he only cares about fighting the strong

[@sethmiller2532]

Well, lie strong. Your legs being on the other side of the room might make standing a bit of a tall order.

[@pokimanefartcompilation]

​​@@nathengriffiths-holland7038 They might feel similar, but their characters are certainly different. Angron is the tragic story of a man who became a monster born from his trauma, whereas Sukuna was just born a monster and is straight up evil.

[@Odd_Krieger]

And then Horus said, " Nah, I'd Win."

[@maduikevictory]

Angron's conversation with Robute made me truly understand his character,and this video showed me his empathy.

[@VA_Nightshade]

I still side with the loyalists. But characters like Angron do paint pictures. and his is a tragic one.

[@maduikevictory]

Angron and kurze are the only traitor primarchs with valid reasons for going against the emperor

[@chrisperez4272]

Guilliman still made a valid point against him in that conversation. ‘You’re still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper.’

[@missivory_missraine]

​@chrisperez4272 But guilliman misunderstood the meaning of angrons words. Angron is right. He *never* got a chance. Angron died the day he was found, and the Emperor could've saved his sons group. And didn't. He did for every other primarch, but not for angron. The emperor saw angron as a failure from the start, and was surprised pikachu when the world eater turned renegade

[@lavatun]

​@missivory_missraine as tragic as angron was for what he went through, for what the emperor did on nuceria, guilliman was still right.. why I can say that?.. coz he didn't stop his sons from implanting the butcher's nails into their skull.. the thing that took away most of his primarch abilities and made him into the monster he is now, he didn't prevent his sons the suffering he endured..

[@ZWOXIS]

Angron's reason for betraying The emperor was the best, imo

[@snipy9317]

Honestly he is probably the only one with a good reason

[@the_loyal_monarchist5280]

The only one who had a solid reason besides him is Peterturbo...

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

The slave who saw his shackles lost when he realized so to was his life... Till the Emperor saved and shackled him yet again. Now he fights against another dominator hoping that his shackles may once again be shattered... along with his life.

[@banneduser5187]

@@the_loyal_monarchist5280 i'm sorry... WHAT? Don't gemme wrong i'm a pretty big perturabo fan myself one of my favorite HH novels is Angel Exterminatus ffs but no... No he did not have a solid reason for turning traitor. He was jealous of Rogal Dorn and extremely petulant that's it. Any of this "my legion always gets the shit jobs" excuse is nonsense. He didn't give 1 single shit about his sons he just hated not being praised like Dorn was. Shame really coz if the 4th +7th ever worked together they'd be unstoppable

[@cristiancamilocamachocombi9460]

And at the end he ended up being permanently slaved by a chaos god...for eternity.

[@darrianweathington1923]

The tragedy of Angron. He fought so hard to die a warriors death alongside his friends and family, only to live eternally as a soldier slave surrounded by blood and worthless corpses

[@CuriousLumenwood]

Angron: I didn’t want to side with the emperor because I didn’t want to live as a slave Khorne: Man I love tragic irony

[@krel3358]

I think its not really that Angron is a slave to Khorne but his own bitterness about his past is what allows Khorne to keep his hold on him. Basically at an unconscious level Angron is so butthurt about how the Emperor denied him his chance to die with his brothers and sisters that he is willing to be Khorne's slave just to have revenge. Thats my head cannon about why Angron became a deamon prince as I think the act needed some form of consent.

[@forresthunt9573]

​@@krel3358Angron is bound to the will of Khorne, enslaved him. He can't even stay dead by this point, and his moments of lucidity are short, few, and far between. He only knows peace when he is dead, and the inevitably ends. Angron was never free.

[@doomfan8603]

@@krel3358 Angron was forced into becoming a daemon prince by lorgar during the horus heresy where he finally was going to die, thus making him a slave to Khrone, more then just a slave, a lobotomized slave who can't think correctly anymore.

[@Fallout4277]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@krel3358Angron didn’t become a daemon prince by choice. He was turned into one by Lorgar

[@moderndavinci6599]

Angron once again proving to be the best traitor Primarch. He doesn't hate his sons for standing against him, he respects their defiance. They are just like him- fighting against a father they think has done wrong, and willing to fight and die for this belief. He respects this because they are just like him just on the other side of the coin.

[@milankostic2571]

Angron's sons: Free Angron: Still a slave

[@Kolegadodz]

@@milankostic2571I belive that in war hammer death is only freedom, as you are free from cruelty of that world. So ye, some of them are free after brave service

[@ColdNorth0628]

​@@Kolegadodz Its the only freedom until a chaos god grabs your warp soul.

[@PrimordialChaos-ll7os]

@@milankostic2571defiance is a freedom of its own. Willing obedience against someone who sees you as a tool is not imo

[@Elthenar]

Angron had solid motivations but in many ways, he was the worst Primarch. He was the only one who didn't conquer his home planet. He was wholly unable to follow battleplans. His legion is categorically worse for him being found. For a former primarch gladiator who only does one thing, and that thing is melee, he's lost a surprising amount of duels. So while his traitor turn was fairly justified compared to most, he's far from the best traitor Primarch. Of the ones currently alive in the setting, the best would have to be either Morty or Perty. Morty has done the most in the recent lore and Perty pretty much hard carried the Heresy.

[@cier5158]

Angron is tragic

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

In the end his desire has never changed since he began: to be free.

[@cier5158]

@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 yeah fr 👍

[@nicholasjoseph9062]

angron is a massive failure compared to his other brothers

[@Fallout4277]

@@nicholasjoseph9062 well that all depends on your perspective of the word failure

[@t0m653]

@@Fallout4277a damage tool that is. What a shame, he would had been my favorite aside from sanguinius had he not gotten the butcher nails.

[@CherryBlossom-mh6vv]

This is definitely my favorite angron voice I’ve heard

[@ER3BVSSS]

I agree😢

[@MrTinman676]

Same

[@Philippines_ball1]

Same

[@rickythompson1823]

Agreed

[@itnotmeitu3896]

He does a great 1000 sons voice too in one of these

[@turtleinvader2982]

Angron is still a slave to the butcher's nails (and now Khorne). Not saying that the EMP was a good Dad but Angron didn't have only one master. Edit: he may have not chosen to serve khorne but he didn't really choose to serve the big E. He still is a slave to him however unwilling that may be.

[@StressmanFIN]

Trading one master for another... what bitter irony.

[@licenk9864]

Isn't at least Khorne part not his choice? I read Logar mde him a demon prince to 'save' him. Sorry if I'm wrong.

[@Fallout4277]

And the sad thing is he never wanted to become a daemon to khorne

[@Fallout4277]

@@licenk9864 you are wrong but a little bit Angron didn’t want to be made a daemon primarch he just wanted to die. Lorgar turned him into one against his will.

[@mrii114]

​@@Fallout4277 And on the contrary, had he fought alongside the loyalists, he could have attained a true death, now, he's forever bound to Khorne.

[@Kalebfenoir]

I love the idea that Angron smiled when he realized Kauregar had actually given him a wound. That he was actually proud of all of them, even if they didn't understand why he was against the Emperor. I do wish there'd been a confrontation between Angron and Horus though, where Horus assumes Angron is loyal to him and gets corrected in a similar fashion. "No. Do not mistake me, Horus. I care not for your whining little rebellion against that Man. MY fight with him is not the same as yours. We might be aligned against him now, but I will NEVER bow to anyone ever again. Not Him... and not YOU." Before stomping off to lead his World Eaters into battle, leaving Horus frustrated that Angron isn't even nominally under his control... and relieved that he didn't have to fight him because there'd be little chance of him winning against the Red Angel.

[@jedediahcoulbourne1791]

The tragedy of the Red Angel will always kill me. He was enslaved and mangled, the Paladin was twisted into a butcher.

[@Metaphysicist]

And the berserker became the Paladin.

[@Lightening_Chaos]

Other Primarchs when their sons try to kill him: HOW DARE YOU!! Angron when his son tries to kill him: I raised that boy!

[@yves9055]

Considering that Big E literally kidnapped him when he came to recruite the guy, Angron kinda has a point about being a slave to the Emperor. Course he's wrong about being free now, but he wasn't wrong about the Emperor. I dunno who wrote Angron's backstory but kidnapping Angron instead of fighting beside him was definitely one of the biggest moments of stupidity for the Emperor.

[@tylerghersinich576]

I to honestly agree with this. Authors knew they could not find a justifiable way to make Angron turn traitor.

[@Wimpiethe3]

​​@@tylerghersinich576Yes they could. The nails. Just write it as if they were about to kill angron. So it was a choice; angron dies with his people or goes under the knife of big e. In order to postpone the nail problem. Then big e looks at the gladiators and decides the ruling class are better suited to stay in charge. That and a bunch of the gladiators also were on the clock, you really don't want astartes with nails. And also no rulers with nails. There solution within two minutes.

[@leandrocastello309]

​@@tylerghersinich576no, before the HH books all this backstory mythos. Many decisions of gods on myth feel strange and unkowlable when you learn ithem but would just be stupid if you had to write it in a story. This had the same problem, try to turn a myth in a book.

[@Lost7one]

Didn't he get teleported away just before he would have been killed? How was Angron right about the Emperor? The Siege of Terra books confirms that the Emperor is just another tool and weapon to protect the species from extermination.

[@Wimpiethe3]

@@Lost7one He could have send astartes in to support angron. Forging a bond at the same time. It's pretty clear to me big e gave up on angron the moment he realised what the nails did. Probably expected him to die sooner rather than later.

[@adammckay852]

The closest to a justified fall, Mortarion had a good reason aswell, trying to save his Sons from the pain of diseases

[@Tanzenergise]

Mortarion would have turned traitor eventually even if Typhus hadn't gotten them all Nurgle'd. he had a seriously deep resentment for his father for stealing his chance to serve justice to his tyrannical necromancer foster dad.

[@DeathMessenger1988]

​@@Tanzenergise Guy got more affection from his father than Angron or even Curze did and still hated him. Mortarion is a whole new level of petty. If Big-E had descended to fight side by side with Horus against the Nucerian High Riders and save the gladiators, Angron would have been even more loyal than Sanguinius and Roboute combined.

[@MrRawrCEO]

@@Tanzenergise Morty was already traitor...he just wasn't Chaos tainted yet.

[@lokensicarius9347]

Mortarion inconsistently bipolar, one moment doesn't hesitate to butcher is most loyal son on a hunch to summon a daemon, next he tries to save them from same said daemons..

[@cn9707]

You're acting like Morty didn't know typhus was up to bs. He could have executed him. He didn't.

[@Unregistered.Hypercam.2.]

Angron : Im free Khorne: are you , "Friendo"?

[@novataco5412]

Everyone talking about the tragic irony of Angron being enslaved by the nails, his rage, and Khorne. That’s true but I think at the start of the heresy until his ascension to Daemonhood I think Angron did had a brief respite. Then Lorgar had to ruin it by doing the ritual to turn him into a demon prince instead of letting him die free and finally be released. So it’s Lorgar’s fault, and if that’s the case then we all know it’s Erebus’s fault too.

[@halfknight2310]

Yep. You can blame lorgar for that. Angron was dying. During the battle of calth he was so close to death. He and Guilleman clashed blows. And He could feel it. He began to see his family. Fighting by his side once more. It was perfect. He was finally going to die. He was back at decheleka ridge. His family fighting by his side. He was back to where he wanted to die. And it was perfect. But lorgar. In his own twisted way. Wanted to save Angron. So. Created a ritual to turn Angron into a daemon primarch of khorne. And angron’s peace was stripped away once more. His pain, his suffering, it all followed through his ascension. Now. 10 000 years later. He vows that one day. He will have peace. He will have a true death. But till then. He will continue his slaughter. For that is all he has left.

[@Dimomult]

Everything is Erebus's fault. A lady ran strait into the back of my truck yesterday. She looked confused when I jumped out my truck and yelled damn it Erebus.

[@novataco5412]

@@Dimomult every night before bed I stub my toe on the bed frame and blame Erebus

[@Dimomult]

@@novataco5412 he probably snuck into your house and scooted it over 2-3 inches while you were away.

[@ArnoldJudasRimmer..]

*loyalist World Eaters, lying broken in pieces on the floor all around Angron...' 'What the actual fuck father?!?' *Angron...* 'You all fought so well. You impressed even me...well done my sons.' *Loyalist World Eaters...* '🤦...'

[@shonklebonkle324]

Damn, Angron really is a better dad than(squints at list) Perturabo, Konrad, Fulgrim, Robert, Rogal Dorn, Lorgar and the Emperor.

[@ArnoldJudasRimmer..]

@@shonklebonkle324 he really is...

[@Deridus]

​@@shonklebonkle324Perty, Konrad, Fulgrim, Lionel, Lorgar, Rogal, Morty, Emps (double for Emps), Ferus... Not too sure about Rowboat. Corvus, Sanguinius, Vulkan, the Khan, they were great leaders. Honestly, I think Horus was over-rated.

[@ArnoldJudasRimmer..]

@@Deridus I actually don't think he was overated...I just think he had burning ambition as one of his character features. The problem was that he also had major inferiority complex. He thought a few of his brothers could have done the job better. But that is hearsay and pusturing tbh. Horus was one of the best Primarchs. His legion, altho fierce, was known amongst all the others as one respected due to their honorable way of doing things. He died on Davin. That is what happened. What returned from their was the reanimated Horus, one that was utterly corrupted. Before that fight with Temba(btw what a feat of his, chaos juiced or not to have taken down the great Horus. Even tho he was killed in said battle) he was the same old Horus. His Legion should have let him die, as one of the finest sons/champions of mankind...but we all know that never happened. Personally I think Lion was the best choice, not Sanguinius.

[@Deridus]

@@ArnoldJudasRimmer.. It varries from author to author, unfortunately. On Molech, Horus's planetfall was gave me the impression of worse casualties than Istvaan. True, that was mid Heresy, but still. I never got any impression about him being a great strategic or tactical genius... I guess when you and your boys are almost invulnerable to 99% of the galaxy, who needs to be a genius?

[@TheArcane10]

Khorne : You're definitely free from being the Salve of the Emperor Angron , Now get me a glass of water and don't forget to water the Flowers 🌸. Angron : Ok

[@ethanmitchell7479]

Angron is the Anakin of 40k In his entire life he was never ever truly free and everything he loved and or wanted was ripped away from him and all he could do was fight against those actions and watch his efforts fail And everyone does like to point out that yes Khorne did give him a moment of Silence once from the nails but that doesn’t change the fact that he is still a slave to a being that uses him for there own benefit

[@Gomorragh]

the difference is that all he needs to do for Khorne is what he does naturally, he was born and made by the emperor to be a warrior, all he does now is do it in the name of khorne and not being chained to the emperors whims and restrictions. But even now, the emperors name is used while the emperor is now nothing more than a navigation beacon and a point of reference for fanatical devotion to a superiority complex that if the emperor had been allowed to pass away might have actually calmed the warp

[@Mr.Crow1984]

Hard opinion: out of the all the traitor Primarchs, Angron is the only one that is fully justified in his betryal. In his life he never held the strings, every action and path im life he took was one that was impossed on him by force. In his betryal, he was finally able to make a choice.

[@bognog0469]

Don't forget that the emperor pretty much outright said that after all was said and done angron was going to be eliminated

[@ER3BVSSS]

I wouldn't say that he is the only one, I feel like konrad was also somewhat misunderstood but overral even tho his methods were cruel they bore results such as killing less of the enemy due to the enemy forfeiting after seeing the fate that awaits them if they keep on fighting.

[@aithota]

Magnus enters the chat

[@Fallout4277]

@@aithota I’m sorry as much as I love him, he screwed up on his own. All he had to do was to do nothing that’s it, but yet he somehow did that wrong by breaking through the emperors psyker barrier if he had just following orders and did nothing he would’ve been fine

[@shonklebonkle324]

​@@ER3BVSSS calling him "misunderstood" is a bit of an understatement.

[@CargoReborn]

Angron is so tragic. His freedom taken away first by the Emperor then by Lorgar who gave his chain to Angron

[@johnhansen685]

There’s another moment where he is kind to the conquers navigator and even holds her gently

[@tradingplague2309]

Rip to my fav artist Archon_of_Flesh in the community, their art was used and its not the same since they left. Iykyk

[@juiceboxbzrk]

Favorite artist but you don't plug them?

[@tradingplague2309]

@@juiceboxbzrk the Artist is Archon_of_Flesh

[@cobaltCarnivore]

Is that the fem primarch one?

[@tradingplague2309]

@@cobaltCarnivore no it's the first one of angron looking into a puddle of his past self

[@LamiaLover]

It was disgusting what happened to him.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

You know Big E…did you even consider…TALKING to your kids?

[@Templar0Valkrye]

See, that’s your first mistake; he doesn’t consider them his “kids”

[@benjamintim3542]

He did. he didn't coddle them or anything, and he spoke to them as both "sons" and generals. In some ways, he viewed them as his children, and in others, his tools. He had to do both to see the galaxy saved. He spoke to the Lion about philosophy and history, reminding him that all victories were equal, and that the Lion's purpose was to exterminate enemies so that they are forgotten. He spoke logic to Guilliman, and of wisdom and learning to Magnus. Angron was mad that he couldn't die, and quite frankly mad that he couldn't conquer his world. I blame the Eldar for that.

[@devontheundivided9815]

​@@benjamintim3542they were tools for him

[@renevil2105]

Well they are kinda his clones,each taking a different personality of him and at the same time their soul materials out of greater daemons. Which is why they are immortal.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@benjamintim3542 He fucked over Magnus too

[@grantameele421]

His sons who stayed loyal to the Emperor fought and died for what they believed in. He was proud they could do what he wasn't able to

[@richardch.4356]

This is what makes me like Angron despite how many people who talk shit about him he still has some of his mind in there.

[@cosmicfails2053]

You ever think Lorgar regrets his decision to keep Angron alive...?

[@halfknight2310]

Probably not. Since he always said he was “saving” Angron. That the pain was gone… it was not

[@somerandommen]

Easily the best traitor primarch. A true honorable Libertarian. May you find peace one day, you beautiful red angel 🫡

[@The_0G_Chad]

Wow, he let one of his own progeny live another 20 seconds? What an empathetic soul….😂

[@uberwarlocker]

That's unironically merciful for angron speaking he just straight up munches on enemies during battle

[@deaneskew6638]

I realized from this short story that Angron has always been trying to kill himself in battle. Unlike the rest of his sons who blindly fell because the Emperor designed them to follow their master, the respect he shows was because he recognized that this marine fought and died for an ideal he chose rather than the one he was crafted for. The emperor stole that from Angron reducing him to nothing but the weapon.

[@ShockFist]

I whole heartedly prefer this version of Angrons voice to how the normal line up of voice actors depict him - don’t get me wrong Keeble is an absolute legend, but to me, Angron shouldn’t be a Whiney wailer, he should have a hoarse and gravelly deep tone, like boulders grinding inside a blood-wet cavern, well done whoever voiced him for this clip.

[@Uploaded1995]

The tragedy of Angron is that he only ever got the choice to choose between different masters, but never got the option to choose freedom. And everyone he ever cared about either died one way or the other, or turned into mindless savages enslaved to their rage.

[@shadowki5687]

Angron was one of the few primarchs to see that serving the emperor still made him the a slave, just with a different master, and after everything that occurred he simply wishes for freedom to live and die as he chooses😢

[@cassiusaureliusanima]

The khan do as well, but the khan is the other side of the coin. He preferred that master because, even then, the emperor fought for humanity, it's safety and unity

[@Schwartzbruder1]

Angron: I am free Lorgar: you sure about that? You sure about that? YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

[@jakehinton732]

Clearly Angron did not read the fine print on that contract

[@SignedWithBlood]

Oh Angron...you have never been free and you never will be.

[@raznaak]

For a brief moment between Isstvan and Lorgar turning him I to a Daemon prince, he kinda was. He only followed Horus's orders when he wanted to and otherwise fucked off somewhere else to his choosing. Sure, that resulted into him almost dying because of the Nails and Lorgar """""saving""""" Angron by turning him into a Daemon Prince of Khorne, but for some time he kinda was free.

[@fredericoalbuquerque5697]

Why is Angron always angry

[@ironduke5058]

He had devices called the Butcher's Nails forcefully inserted into his brain when he refused to kill his adoptive father in the Gladitorial pits of Nuceria, the planet he grew up on. You see those dreadlock looking things in his head? Those are the Nails. The Nails put the him in extreme pain 24/7, the only time the pain relents is when he's in combat and it stops for that little bit, until he again goes back to a living hell. That's why he's always angry.

[@TarrierToast]

No its because hes named angron and it sounds like angry

[@MrDeathCell]

​@ironduke5058 why dont he just remove it? Is he stupid?

[@munkirtokage4816]

If he didn't give his soul to Khorne I could see the Emperor of Mankind respecting how much he values freedom

[@SlewedHydra]

Problem is he didn't, Logar did. Logar conducted the ritual that made Angron into a Daemon Primarch. Angron was going to die, like he wanted. He never sold his soul, it was sold by Logar.

[@munkirtokage4816]

@@SlewedHydra damn even more of a giga Chad than i thought

[@vexxama]

He’s not entirely wrong. Big E referred to him as an “it”. His favor and calling them sons was another method of control, one he didn’t waste on the ones who fell short of his vision. In his own words, they are merely his generals and his tools. Despite the reverence most people saw the primarchs with, their own creator saw them as less than people

[@victorlu2313]

I' d really prefer that over having the chaos gods as masters. If he really wanted freedom, all he had to do was escape. But no, he wanted to serve the chaos gods instead, so i'm wondering if it's really freedom that he wanted.

[@raznaak]

@victorlu2313 Not really. Lorgar made him a Daemon Prince while in Ultramar, Angrom probably would have died from the damages of the Nails themselves or because of his berserk rages otherwise. Lorgar """""saved""""" Angron by turning him into a Daemon Prince against his wishes and knowledge. Angron would never have accepted that willingly, he literally would rather have died.

[@JayJayM57]

@@victorlu2313 he was ready and willing to die, he never wanted to serve the chaos god, but Lorgar screwed him up.

[@veisticon91]

​@@victorlu2313 Angron never desired to be a slave to darkness

[@yourdad6902]

​@@victorlu2313he was forced to serve the chaos gods why are you son adamant on being wrong there's books that tell you exactly what happened

[@sadez-cz8qf]

Damn smooth Archon of Flesh art at the beginning, nice one

[@RealDuendeNoFake]

so glad someone else noticed his art, still sad he's taking a step back from warhammer though :c

[@halfknight2310]

@@RealDuendeNoFakeconsidering what he endured. I can’t blame him. It’s so annoying and angering to see a small pathetic group go so far over drawings that most people love.

[@finhardy6626]

The worst part is Angron would have just died but some fuck decided to turn him into a demon

[@tastypenz513]

Theres another moment i love where he speaking to another one of his sons, and while it isnt obvious, his empathy shines through in giving his son ferris an explanation as to why he couldnt stand with the imperium. He speaks on how hes a slave who truly never had a chance to be his own man, and he finally believes hes setting both him and his legion free. While he may disrespect him by saying he wont be remembered, he also is one to respect him when he finally has the audacity to stand againts him and say that he hates him

[@1spotkill]

Angron: My son, I didn't fall from grace.... I leapt to freedom..

[@milankostic2571]

Freedom, thy name is Khorne😂

[@user-BadUsername]

Man, you just gotta feel bad for Angron. His life was screwed the moment the Eldar intervened.

[@stevehagen9804]

It’s a unique tragedy to have a hero kicked by his own side so many times that the only way he sees out is to be an eternal slave to something worse.

[@yourdad6902]

He didn't choose khorne he was forced by lorgar against his will he joined the rebellion out of spite not chaos he didn't know or care what they wanted lorgar changed him and not with his consent

[@TalberNalliso]

If I were to go back in time, I would save Angron. -Omegon

[@Fyre19]

WHY WOULD TELL ME THIS I THOUGHT HE WAS A MINDLESS DOG but now your telling me theres a wittle puppy trying to shine in the darkness

[@halfknight2310]

Yeah. Deep down Angron was a empathetic man. He was an empath. Able to soothe and feel the pain of others once before. Angron was known to be merciful while as a gladiator. Fighting with honor. But the nails stole that from him. They stole everything. Then the emperor. Then chaos

[@Fyre19]

@@halfknight2310 and to think we could have paladins from his legion but instead we got berzerkers

[@LabTech41]

Truly, of all the Traitor Primarchs, The Emperor gave Angron the most important reason to betray him.

[@Hell_O7]

I wonder if the Tau is already known back then, will some of the primarchs choose them instead of Chaos.

[@jeanmariek2851]

Bro said: " fuck Horus BUT fuck the emperor even more"

[@koykoyonly1628]

This Angron voice is... soothing. Strangely kind. It makes me feel sad. It sounds like the voice of a healer, an empath, a kind man. The nails may have killed that man, but his voice remained.

[@trolldrool]

Many people think if the Emperor had been able to remove the Butcher's Nails and rescued his fellow gladiators, it would've been enough to make Angron loyal. But Angron could never be loyal to someone who calls himself a master of others. The tragedy of Angron is that it's likely that the only thing the Emperor could have done to earn Angron's trust and loyalty, would have been to respect his wish for a warrior's death and let him die.

[@charlesman8722]

Khorne: Not so much free as under new management

[@josephmclaughlin933]

The first image he used is by a very talented artist who was bullied put of the 40k community for their sexuality.

[@jamesygamesy5124]

the artist is gay or their art is gay?

[@imperialtrooper927]

Because we all know how 40k is a hivemind with only one singular ideology right?

[@josephmclaughlin933]

@imperialtrooper927 never said that. They were bullied out of the community and had members of the community sending them threats. This community isn't a hive mind, but it certainly doesn't do enough to combat negative members.

[@mr_camperator]

Take a cup of copium​@@josephmclaughlin933

[@wickedimpulse]

That's weird that you didn't just say "for being gay" or something. Being persecuted for their "sexuality" makes them sound like a pedo.

[@poilaaliop]

That first picture always breaks my heart 😢

[@DreYeon]

Watching vinland and seeing him say i'm free is something else. You are free as long as nothing else comes up next.

[@pablowarsong5503]

And then became Khorne's slave. 10/10 would betray the EMPRAH again

[@Poeneutral]

Serving Khorne, serving the nails. Thesw things do not take away Angron's frewdom. He chose to follow Khorne, he chose not to fight the nails. The emperor gave him no option.

[@johnpaul5447]

How do you fight something that’s literally removing more of your brain every second of the day

[@halfknight2310]

Fight the nails? Oh he tried. He tried and tried but they were too much. Even for him. He lost his powers because of them. Chunks of his brain gone. Even the emperor couldn’t remove them without killing him. They tore into his mind and brain. Causing him agony 24/7. Can you imagine that? Searing brutal pain. Any other emotion is rewarded with pain. Any action is pain. Even in slaughter he doesn’t enjoy it. His mind sort of goes blank and he feels… nothing. Cause that is all Angron has. And choice? Hahaha. It was lorgar who turned Angron into a demon primarch. Angron was about to die free and happy and lorgar stole that from him

[@Poeneutral]

@@halfknight2310 He was unafraid of death, but chose to live with the nails. Lorgar may have forced this power onto him, but he chose to follow Khorne. Whether his mind is gone or not. He knew the circumstances, and he made his choice. That is all he wanted.

[@halfknight2310]

@@Poeneutral no he didn’t. He hates serving khorne now. He had a whole monologue when he was resurrected that one day. He will day. A true death. One day: he will know peace. He wasn’t afraid of death. But he wanted it. But he wanted it the right way. He chose to live with the nails cause he was hoping to die in battle. He straight up tried to kill himself, had Kharn not convinced him that dying in battle was better

[@Poeneutral]

@@halfknight2310 The consequences of one's choices do not change the fact that they are one's choices. He wanted to die, fighting his oppressors, alongside his brothers and sisters. That was taken from him. He has since become a vessel for chaos, by way of manipulation, but despite that, he chose his path. The monarchy of his home planet, the emperor, decided for him. Now he decides for himself. Now, he only wants to kill.

[@sirflapfla97]

Do remember angrond primarch ability was effectively being an empath

[@something3530]

The worst part is that that makes it infinitely more tragic

[@johnozzmond9728]

Angron was still a slave to the Nails, and later Khorne. He's never been free, merely moved from one master to another. His grievances with the Emperor were legitimate, but his father was the least shitty of his masters and never wished harm upon Angron

[@3adgamd3r]

The difference is that he chose his new masters, and it was perhaps, for the only time in his life, that he actually got to make a choice for himself, on Nuceria he was a slave, then the Emperor kidnapped him and he was left with no option but to serve the Emperor, so whilst he is still a slave, he had a choice of which master to serve; the one who forced him, or the one offering him revenge for being forced to serve

[@Mrpokemon718]

Unfortunately not true, the emperor pretty bluntly stated after the great crusade had concluded he was going to dispose of Angron. He was justified in his betrayal, but his tale is nothing but tragedy, as Khorne then took his freedom in place of the emperor.

[@Fallout4277]

@@3adgamd3r actually that’s a misconception Angron never chose to serve Khorne He was dying from the butchers nails and his battle with Roboute when Lorgar turned him into a daemon

[@Fallout4277]

@@Mrpokemon718 and all of this because of that bitch baby Erebus

[@3adgamd3r]

@@Fallout4277 no, but he chose to serve chaos and betray the Emperor, that’s what I meant by he chose his new masters

[@bradschultz2436]

Like others have said, Emp shoulda fought with Angron, ya get his loyalty and yeah make the world Imperial compliant at the same time. Angron would have inducted whatever ex gladiators that could manage the geneseed. Ta dah happy Angron, minus the nails of course. I dont think he woulda felt like so much as a slave, he has his family with him now.

[@BigdaddyBigfoot-km9hr]

One could argue that agron died when Lorgar revived him as the daemon prince. Or when perto laid him out. The demon is basically just using the primarchs likeness at this point.

[@user-nx7ql8zu1p]

"When i was so close to dying free" That, that hit a spot on me. I feel for angron. All that rage and all he wanted was to die with his brothers and sisters fighting the masters. To be honest i wanted that. I still want that. To die free with the people you trust and respect not live a slave with people you despise.

[@kalebsmith645]

Angron is the best

[@XRyanK]

I refuse to believe the Emperor couldn't have easily reversed the butchers nails. Just didn't care? Wanted to control which of the Primarchs would fall to Chaos? Too busy with his ultimate Web way project? Who knows.

[@alricmalicorne321]

Khorne : " Oh, I wouldn't say 'free'. More like, 'under new management'..."

[@flaviofr4v0]

Angron: "I am free!" Khorne smiles for the first time in weeks.

[@InquisitorEx]

Angron is him

[@nidhoggryggdrasil2489]

I dislike character's logic like Angron's. In part because at best it's naive and hypocritical. Yeah, the Emperor did you (kinda) dirty when he rescued only you. . But you became a moody and selfish child ever since then. And now you're a slave of khorne and chaos.

[@bullet6177]

I mean, he watched everyone he ever loved die. And it’s not like Big E couldn’t have saved them all, he just CHOSE not to. I think becoming moody and selfish after watching everything you love be lost while it could still have been saved is a very reasonable thing to do.

[@rigel9228]

"Moody and selfish", buddy, Angron is in so much pain literally every second of his existence that he can barely think straight anymore. The butchers nails don't just give him a headache, they have fundamentaly broken him and that's why the Emperor doesn't really give a shit about him. And him being a slave to Khorne is mainly Lorgars fault, Angron just wanted to die at the end.

[@nidhoggryggdrasil2489]

@@bullet6177 Sure. And at ANY POINT did Angeon argue "don't save me, save my people" or "I'll go but you gotta save me"? No. He just wanted to go off and die with them. And then he took out his anger on the legion meant for him until Kharn did whatever it was he did. And THEN he inflicts the legion with nails DESPITE knowing how effed up they are. I'm no expert but I don't recall ever seeing any indication Angron ever asked or demanded to go back to get revenge or free the slaves of the planet.

[@bullet6177]

@@nidhoggryggdrasil2489 well the Big E didn’t rlly give him a choice, he Teleported to him, told him that he could be a leader of a legion etc etc but angron said no he would rather fight with the people he has rn. BIG E didn’t like that and ended up just TP angron to his ship anywyas Also, he never took out his anger on his legion, he was just dead inside and wasn’t able to bond with them. Also also, he never forced the nails on to anyone, the legion chose to do that so they could try and connect with him, iirc when he found out they did that he was furious with them (but I mean it did connect them a bit cause shared trauma) Angron couldn’t go back to free the slaves cause they were all DEAD when he got TP away. And he was busy doing the dirty work of the great crusade.

[@Sonj982]

​@nidhoggryggdrasil2489 he couldn't go back the emperor abducted him and psychically knocked him out while the world was brought into compliance after killing his warriors. The emperor flat out refused to save his brothers and sisters so angron refused him and took the honorable path to fight and die alongside his family. It's been said before but all the emperor had to do was beam down himself, like 10 custodes, and a couple hundred world eaters to back up angron and save his family. This would leave angron loyal to the emperor completely as his family would've been saved, they could leave the planet to gladiators and by extension get recruits from the world that would be the children of the gladiators, hence angron would love them automatically. The reason he wanted to stay and die is because the pain of the nails and refusal of the emperor pretty much solidified that angron would have nothing in life except pain and violence. This is what became of his life, no surprise he's the way he is.

[@heinecan8684]

“I do not stand with Horus. I stand against the Emperor to be free” - Finally feel like I’m starting to understand Angron

[@TheHumanShitpost]

Angron was free only in his failed rebellion on his home world.

[@iz9744]

"You fought well. All of you did."

[@warrenoakes4521]

Heartbreakingly sad times

[@andy313131313136]

The irony of Angron wanting freedom so much that he ended up becoming a slave to a far darker master.

[@user-cv3xf4hd6l]

I'm kinda proud some of angrons sons stayed loyal to the imperium

[@jedicraftmaster2426]

The irony of Angron and the other primarchs thinking theyre free...

[@guyincognito7607]

Angron is my favourite character in 40k lore. I absolutely love the guy, from his origin story to his Ascension to demonhood, Angron is always amazing.

[@juliolopes2892]

It was not empathy, it was a fathers pride

[@nansnortedmyket]

"they say he was without empathy, but this one time he was butchering his own children..."

[@cwccody4840]

Stand proud son your strong

[@johnstrickland7310]

Damn that gave me chills. And just like that more proof that Angron got the rawest deal.

[@jessepatrick7471]

“I wanna be free” Has nails. Has a leash. Korn walks him like a dog. Coulda died loyal.

[@Colm1800]

i wil never forget when he had his nails ripped out by the angel and begged for mercy

[@michaelschroeder7953]

Classic tragedy. Freedom is never free. Comes with a price that is way more hefty than agreed upon.

[@aldente3868]

Do you feel free now, Angron?

[@SvengelskaBlondie]

Angron: Meesa freee !! Khorne: Under new management

[@ethanmitchell7479]

Dude your shorts lately have been awesome especially the ones about the primarchs because imma be real Not a lot of people are gonna read through 50 books to get some of these amazing moments and each one you’ve done lately has truly shown me how each primarchs fall is there own tragic tale The Fulgrim short a bit back when he lifted a child on his shoulders to encourage a filthy crowd Jaghatai and the shard of Magnus talking for a final Time and saying there peace to each other And now this one Pls keep it coming one primarch I would like to see more of is Perty mainly how he went back to his home planet and razed it to the ground accidentally killing his sister in the process because it was THAT act that made him turn to Horus and go full traitor I know OF it but know nearly nothing about it and y’all mentioned it in the anonymous podcast a while back just a request! Thanks for reading this!

[@ReconCrusader]

Angron has always been a slave. A slave to fate and a slave to more powerful masters. He was never free.

[@kingarthurii5001]

I legitametly feel so bad for Angron that I've grown addicted to reading fanfics where he is happy and on a journey on his own. Free from both slavery and responsibility.

[@Professorkek]

I like to imagine in another timeline the World Eaters stage a coup against Angron. Many are killed in battle but eventually they best him and he dies in battle, as he always wanted. Except this time he also dies proud of his sons for doing what he was unable to do, kill their master. Knowing they would be expunged from history like the second and eleventh, they take Angrons body on 47 ronin style a pilgrimage back to Nuceria and bury him with the gladiators from his original rebelion, shortly before the Emperor and Custodies arrive.

[@matrixtrollmarine]

khorne: you might want to reconsider

[@TheOuchee]

Angron: I am free now Korne: More like under new management. His story is truly the saddest of all the primarchs

[@randomcenturion7264]

"I am free" (Laughs hysterically knowing the Hell that awaits him)

[@Ansemcartel]

Love that the first pic was from ArchonOfFlesh. Amazing artist, probably the best 40k fan artist. Im sad they were bullied out of continuing to make such wonderful art by weird parts of the community.

[@somerandommen]

Wait... the R34 artist?

[@JoshSweetvale]

The World Eaters were supposed to be frontline infantry. The Emperor wanted a Centurion. And that very potential drove a wedge between the callous Emperor and his most paternal son.

[@BirdmansDen]

Poor Angron, wanted to be free, but be a slave to different master.