Angry About Gaza? Vote for Harris.

[@siamac7705]

Just to sharpen my point from my question to which Steve, so eloquently responded to... I'm Iranian-American. Steve didn't mention in his video... DURING the stream, Iran was being bombed by Israel. My cousins and aunt could FEEL and HEAR the blasts. As far as my vote for Kamala or any of what I said... Not... a... bit... of... conflict. NONE.

[@SomeRandomG33k]

I still wouldn't blame any Palestinian-American for not voting for Harris because this administration killed one of their families members. We have to fight the future administration on the Palestinian genocide and many other issues. Regardless if the future administration is a Fascist one or just the standard Democrat Authoritarian one.

[@sunshine3914]

Make the video & I will send it directly to my bs hippie ass Green Party voters, although, it’s probably too late.

[@siamac7705]

@@sunshine3914not a KZbinr but i think Steve’s video along with my comment above does a good job 😊

[@AndrewD8Red]

Leftist cis-het-white-men are the largest demographic willing to let Trump win to make themselves feel better about their own conscience. Some very, very liberal and left leaning people are absolutely thrilled to throw immigrants, trans people, women, Muslims, etc. under a bus to keep their own hands clean.

[@Mike_1nce_More]

​@@siamac7705 salute to you for all the work that you've done and are still doing to show people that the only solution to this mess is to vote for Harris. I'm not a religious person but my thoughts are with you, your friends and family in Iran, the people of Palestine and all other oppressed people around the world that are under attack from brutal regimes like the israeli military/government.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

The thing I can't stop thinking about is Kushner said it could be turned into oceanfront property, He's such a ghoul

[@camelsheit_on_the_walls446]

Exactly!

[@unbreakableldorado7723]

honestly, its crazy how few people know about this statement, I just heard about it for the first time. Pass it around!

[@Naris48]

Gaza is already oceanfront property. What Kushner sees is the opportunity to acquire it at reduced prices (as reducing buildings to rubble tends to lower the market value). Also, Conservatives such as Netanyahu, Trump & Kushner think that oceanfront property is currently owned by the wrong people.

[@gateauxq4604]

Oh don’t take his word for it, Israel runs boat tours of Gaza and they have been running ads for real estate that will be “available” in Lebanon.

[@lindaswanson9328]

I saw the interview also. I almost put my foot through my tv. He is sick.

[@JeannieLove]

I served in the Army and I'm trans. When I got out in 2015, Trump had already been nominated for the Republicans. Part of the reason I didn't renew my contract is cuz I knew I couldn't serve under him and live with myself. In 2020, I was scared for if Trump won. Now, in 2024, I am downright TERRIFIED!

[@ballatore34]

@@JeannieLove hey I just want to say thank you for your service and for being yourself and being true to yourself. Respect and love to you and for all 🫡 ❤️

[@Eloraurora]

Prescient of you. I never could've believed he'd actually get in. I was MEDCOM at the time, and it felt like we'd _just_ finished the new online training on trans patients (PT, so not super pertinent to the specialty) when he tweeted about kicking y'all out. It was so fucked, seeing policies that'd clearly gone through whole committees of thoughtful, informed people, thrown for a loop by a fascist clown.

[@LCCWPresents]

I’m by and trump winning means an end to the lgbtq community openly existing in America and possibly the world given the USAs indirect influence on every country

[@LCCWPresents]

It further means everyone is forced to hide in unhappy nuclear families

[@LittleJoeTheMoonlightCat]

@JeannieLove Thank You so much for your service, and choosing to do the right thing for your country by not voting for a Domestic Enemy.

[@glen46823]

Ultimately only 2 people can win, and its logical to vote for Harris over Trump. Pretending there are other choices helps nobody. That said, if Harris wins, continue to protest her on Gaza (or Trump as well).

[@LoZLttp13]

For your own personal safety, I would not reccomend protesting if Trump wins. He will not listen, and you'll be marking yourself as a political enemy to a fascist regime. I hope I don't have to explain how that story ends.

[@andrewanastasovski1609]

This is what I feel too. It's right to be angry, but face facts.

[@glen46823]

@@LoZLttp13 No, don't cave to fascists. There's far less safety out of letting fascists get away with everything.

[@SeanCrosser]

It's insane that people think getting Green to 5 percent can do anything when Trump gets into office. Pointless protest vote.

[@mjc0961]

That last sentence is the big difference. If Harris wins, we'll still be allowed to protest. If Trump wins, he already wanted police to shoot protesters during his last term, so good luck protesting with him in power.

[@firefly4f4]

Trump's "solution" to Gaza is to let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. See also his position on Ukraine and Putin.

[@lildecc9300]

in all fairness that has also been the biden/harris “solution” to gaza

[@thenutella8846]

I've been following what's been happening with this war over there and right here with our politicians. You're point isn't worth anything because Biden and Harris have been doing he exact same thing that you say Trump will do. I don't want Trump to win but for the love of god, can you guys just be honest about how the democrats and republicans have the same foreign policy when it comes to brown people and are perfectly fine with genocide?

[@alexsbarricades8218]

Period.

[@CMDR_BIPE]

He already is

[@billa7266]

It would not be unreasonable to suggest that Biden’s (and Kamala has signaled she would do the same) solution is to let Israel do whatever they want too. Oh, sure, Trump says he’ll let Israel annex the West Bank. Do we honestly think that a Democratic administration would actually do anything to stop Israel from doing this? Trump says Israel should “finish the job” in Gaza. Does what we have seen so far lead is to believe that if Israel decided to do this that the Democrats would do anything to stop it?

[@SphinxOfBlackQuartz]

"How much is soothing your fucking conscience worth?" That's the thing: Voting third-party isn't even voting your conscience. Your conscience is the little voice urging you to do the things you don't WANT to do, but should do. Voting third-party is voting your EGO, and that's not a defensible choice.

[@JAC-wk7tt]

Excellent point! Thank you for sharing.

[@bigchungus5000]

@sphinxofBlackQuartz "so vote for the party that's more concerned with the non-existent "trans genocide" than the real and ongoing genocide of Palestinians that's worsening by the day!" Harris is married to someone who makes zionism a major part of their entire identity. The idea that concern for Palestinian life is paramount in the Harris household is hilarious at best.

[@therealshadow99]

As a Pennsylvanian I already voted (mail-in that I took in to the county courthouses election office in person) for Kamala. Sadly I don't know any convertible people here. My neighbors have long talked about lynching me because I'm not a Trump supporter (I'm an 'enemy within' to them) and most went to Jan 6th, so I don't see them leaving his cult any time soon... Right now I'm just hoping and praying that the rest of the state where it isn't so red and all those 'in hiding' like myself win.

[@lexa_power]

My family thinks I’m the enemy within too 😢

[@jennybean416]

​@lexa_power Hard same. Remember, there will be people who remain fully committed to misunderstanding you no matter what. Let them. Their battle is not with you; it's with themselves. Recognizing how much you've grown means admitting how stagnant they've become. Not everyone is capable of facing such hard truths. Keep growing, keep healing.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@jennybean416 Indeed! The amount of arguments I have stopped by smiling kindly and saying: I don't need you to be correct.... So many of these people need to be validated, so when you walk away saying 'I don't care if you are wrong' it hits twice as hard. I've even had one of the 'contradictory for the same of being contradictory' types stop trying to have these sort of debates with me. I just look at them, smile kindly sand remind them... they don't have to be correct, my universe will still function the exact same even if they think the world is flat!

[@FireElement7]

Same here. Stay strong. Stay safe. Vote blue down ballot!

[@ryanjohnson3615]

It will be fun watching ignorant people go back to "not caring" once Trump is gone. There's no-one after Trump that would garner similar support.

[@Kazutoification]

And another reason to vote for Harris would be to think about the courts. Under Trump, we got the conservative Supreme Court. Had he not been president in 2016, we would still have Roe v. Wade.

[@sheelfjohnson]

And trump will get more chances to appoint justices. They'll secretly pay Alito and Thomas to retire, and replace them with 30 year olds. And the way our luck runs, one of the liberal justices will retire or die. Count on it.

[@ThomasstevenSlater]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 If you going to have a constitution which makes a list of things congress shouldn't mess with they you need someone outside it to tell them their being stupid and they need to give that law a bit of editing, specifically here. Also rights granted hundreds of years ago have new implication in the modern which has modern stuff. Also since changing the constitution is such pig it can't (and shouldn't) detail exactly what it means in a 100 page appendix in full lawyerease there going to have to go "of course freedom of religion applies the the temple of Satan, you idiot, you absolute cheesebrained waffle iron. Since passing laws is so slow and so corrupted (largely due so said supreme court) sometimes going to supreme court is only option left and that sucks. One way I'd change it is not to have permanent judges, you get a new set for every case (the have a big spinning ball thing to chose them and everyone acts like its very serious), then spending decades training bribing and indoctrinating them for the role just won't work, also have to some foreign judges in the pool as they will be free from Jurisprudential dogma and just read the actual words (the scottish court of session really helped with pointing out that shutting down parliament is dictator stuff, for example). Also have a code of ethics and congress willing to say "your obviously corrupt to everyone but you, bugger off and leave your gavel behind"

[@samsca8529]

This is the best argument for Harris

[@cjg8763]

Another very excellent point. People aren't thinking things through well enough when they want to complain about Harris over a single issue. IMHO the whole entire world will be a thousands times worse off with Trump than with Harris, not just our country or Gaza, but everybody everywhere. World tyrants will get to do whatever they want to their neighbors if Trump wins and democracy shall eventually cease to exist everywhere.

[@cjg8763]

Another very excellent point. People aren't thinking things through well enough when they want to complain about Harris over a single issue. IMHO the whole entire world will be a thousands times worse off with Trump than with Harris, not just our country or Gaza, but everybody everywhere. World tyrants will get to do whatever they want to their neighbors if Trump wins and democracy shall eventually cease to exist everywhere.

[@itsOasus]

I also want to point out that Palestinian groups in Arizona and the Uncommitted movement endorsed Kamala Harris

[@Hk121394]

Not fully, they basically said don't throw a vote away for Trump.

[@Pangloss6413]

“Uncommitted movement endorses candidate” sounds like a Sunday newspaper joke

[@kathyeyesopen4078]

@@Hk121394 basically saying the same thing! Vote for Harris rather than trump or no vote which will only benefit trump.

[@lildecc9300]

Uncommitted didn’t endorse harris

[@rustyshackelford312]

ironically the uncommitted movement has committed.

[@OgreMECH]

Another category is mine: cancer survivor. If Trump is elected i could lose my insurance. I could either die or be financially ruined. I had to file bankruptcy because the first time i got it was before the Affordable Care Act. I got it 3 more times but i was insured and it was expensive but manageable.

[@beefandbarley]

Good luck friend, stay strong. ❤️

[@mimicoolll0]

i don’t mean to make it about myself but another category for me is my uncle who needs dialysis and Trump is a threat to affordable healthcare for him. and of course for myself reproductive healthcare has and still is crucial for me and prevented the need for blood transfusions since i was a teenager.

[@miricobladetail9670]

Oregon has ranked choice voting on the ballot this year and I hope it passes!

[@thelostremainunfound]

So does Idaho!

[@Piratewaffle43]

Pro Palestinian protesters are some of the first people Trump would crack down on.

[@thefriendlybot1485]

That would be after the democratic purge he’s constantly promised

[@underdawg47]

Biden and Harris are cracking down on the protesters now.

[@Piratewaffle43]

@@underdawg47 Source?

[@mygetawayart]

​@@underdawg47 are they killing them? ostracizing them? locking them up? are publicly shaming them? directing nazis towards them? No? then, shut the f up

[@seanraf2554]

@@Piratewaffle43 google Biden cracks down on campus protests

[@applesandgrapesfordinner4626]

Biden has a lot to answer for in regards to Gaza, but with Trump, he'll make sure there's nothing else to answer when there's no one else in the free world to question him.

[@Redhotsmasher]

Not like the Dems are leaving a lot of room for questioning them either when they don't even seem to care in the slightest about universities blatantly violating first amendment rights in the name of Israel.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

Yep. With Harris, there is hope for policy change. With Trump, there is only escalation.

[@wolfe6220]

With Trump, he will make sure Gaza no longer exists....​@@interdimensionalsteve8172

[@applesandgrapesfordinner4626]

@interdimensionalsteve8172 Exactly! One is more willing to respond and adapt. Plus, given she wasn't present in Netanyahu's speech to Congress, there's a possibility that her stance may be different. She just needs to be less timid about it.

[@Sacredsnow2]

To make this a sharper, jabbier point: you can shorten the second half. "Biden has a lot to answer for regarding Gaza, Trump will make sure there's no one to answer to." A great line, that rings true, to convince people this video is targeting.

[@robkemp598]

Voting for Jill Stein or no one at all won't affect the Democrats. It WILL affect the women in your life, trans and other queer people, the poor... and ultimately it won't help the people of Lebanon or Gaza either. Jill Stien or another Third party candidate for that matter doesn't do anything but suck votes away from one or the other parties. Its not a protest if it just makes things worse...vote Harris

[@scpatl4now]

Oh, that Jill Stein who only cares about these issues every 4 years, and then disappears for 4 years...that one?

[@Keflen]

​@@scpatl4now yeah she's such a grifter. And it's not even conspiracy to say shes paid by Russia. She's been seen near Putin many times

[@robkemp598]

@scpatl4now Yeah, if she actually cared she'd keep up the work at the local level, especially during the midterms.

[@adams8830]

I voted Jill stein in 2016 and I regret that.

[@jennybean416]

Even if a third-party candidate were able to win, hypothetically, there is no third-party coalition in power to actually help accomplish their stated goals. Having to pick a side is inevitable, which sucks, but it's currently the only system we have with any teeth.

[@piku5637]

“Voting for Kamala isn’t the ecosocialist anarchist revolution we need for humanity’s survival, it’s the chess move and damage mitigation we need.”

[@wilberwhateley7569]

But we needed that Anarchist revolution yesterday! If Harris is the best out society has to offer, we may already be too late…

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

​@@wilberwhateley7569 have you started getting ready for that need? I'm not trying to be snarky. we absolutely need to prepare for that need

[@wilberwhateley7569]

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Me and mine are prepared for a socio-economic crisis to the best of our ability, but a broader revolution will require more impetus on the part of society in general…

[@davidalearmonth]

The US unfortunately has a terrible political system where you really do need to choose to vote against the worse candidate, instead of voting for what you really want. I hope you guys can eventually change the system!

[@sheelfjohnson]

Where are you? One of those countries that has 4 or 5 liberal parties on the ballot so they split the vote every time and end up with something like Brexit, which no one wanted? We'll deal with our own system.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

​@@sheelfjohnson Most of the world uses some sort of Multiple Choice System. These eliminate the 'lesser of two evil' phenomenon by allowing your vote to go towards multiple candidates at a time. If you are in a situation where there are 4 or 5 liberal candidates and 1 conservative, you can ensure those 5 liberal candidates all get 1 point while the conservative gets 0. This allows you the confidence to vote for the 'really good candidate that isn't likely to win' as well as the 'alright candidate that is likely to win.' If your first choice doesn't win, your second choice still has the same chance to win as if you voted only for them. Plurality Voting system's create both the 'lesser of two evil' and the 'two party' phenomenon!

[@ziploc2000]

WE have a measure on our Ballot in Oregon this time for ranked choice voting. That should be an opportunity to allow a protest vote that doesn't get completely wasted. You can vote for your preferred 3rd party candidate first, then the Democratic candidate second, so when the 3rd party gets 2% of the vote, your vote passes on to someone who can actually win... and hey, maybe we all vote the same 3rd Party candidate first and they actually win.

[@davidalearmonth]

@@sheelfjohnson I'm in Canada. I'm not happy with our system either. Also FPtP. I'm really kind of shocked that we haven't devolved into a two-party system as well, although we've started to. 20 years ago our two conservative parties did merge into one. Trudeau ran partly on a platform of bringing in some other type of voting system, but unfortunately it didn't happen. I definitely still vote left.

[@przytulanka1979]

I vote for the candidate who I really want! It's the Electoral collage that makes my vote matter less.

[@CalindaSharisse]

As a leftist that is extremely dissatisfied with both parties, I view it as who do I want to protest against. Both parties will send the cops on protesters but Trump is openly talking about rounding up protesters with the military.

[@aidendiatheke]

This is what I have been telling people. What sucks is that a lot of the single issue voters on this topic that I have met have fully embraced the strategy of accelerationism. They figure that if Trump gets in that we would *have* to have a civil war and overthrow the corrupt system. There is no convincing those people, nevermind the idea of what would happen during the time that the US is out of the fight on a global scale because of internal division. It is the worst of all worlds.

[@Sacredsnow2]

And deporting the protestors. Where to? Who knows.

[@Keflen]

Basically in short words. We can operate leftist advocacy much easier under Kamala

[@applesandgrapesfordinner4626]

@@aidendiatheke Tankies, man.

[@beefandbarley]

@@aidendiathekeThe strange thing is that these accelerationists seem to not care about other’s loss of life and also assume they themselves won’t be among the casualties. It’s video game thinking.

[@thomasd4738]

Palestinian-American from NW Indiana. Livid as Hell about Biden's unconditional support for Israel. Hoping that Harris will "turn the page" on that as well. Voted BLUE 💙all the way down.

[@yareyarejose5080]

the dems literally sent out ritchie torres, one of the most vocal supporters of the gazan genocide, to do voter outreach in michigan which has a sizable muslim population. do you think she's gonna turn the page?

[@Lexi_Zone]

She won't. I'm not saying don't vote against Trump, but don't expect jackshit from the democrats.

[@zak6093]

She's owned by AIPAC.

[@Lemurion287]

It's pretty simple. Don't vote for the guy who's best buds with Netanyahu.

[@larissabrglum3856]

In my opinion, voting third party while living in a swing state is morally irresponsible in this election

[@jessih3955]

I tried to explain to a co-worker..."It's not a binary choice, it's a binary result. You can only effect the result with a real choice."

[@ilikeme1234]

Some people do not understand that inaction can leave you as culpable as action. If you see a person drowning, and you have a life preserver, if you choose not to throw it to them, you’re culpable. It doesn’t matter if you’re not the reason that person was drowning, or if you don’t like the company that made that preserver.

[@slowrunn3r88]

I’ve seen so much gaslighting in leftist circles. I’m a straight white cisgender man, and nevermind indirect suffering through empathy, I’ve also been directly affected by the system (economics, enforced patriarchy, etc, healthcare-worked in healthcare in 2020), and I often get told “oh you’re worried about Project 2025? Boohoo, you’re worried that YOU will have to experience fascism? HA! Most of us already experience fascism, so I’m going to send a message to the establishment! If you vote for Harris, you have PRIVILEGE!”

[@Vahlee-A]

That's a lot to unpack. I'm sorry people have been so wild for you. From another marginalized leftist. ❤

[@slowrunn3r88]

@@Vahlee-A to be clear, my comment might have implied people have said this directly to me. Nobody’s said this directly to me….but…. That’s because I haven’t been very vocal that I’m supporting Harris… but I’ve seen a lot of videos and content creators saying this and saying “if you support Harris I’m blocking you”

[@slowrunn3r88]

@@Vahlee-A but nonetheless thank you for your kind comment

[@notaspeck6104]

As a woman of colour people that look like me are the most obviously target, but fascism applies to everyone except the ultra wealthy/powerful… kinda one of the defining characteristics of fascism. What other white cis men don’t get is that they WILL suffer too under trump’s (or rather the people pulling his strings) exclusionary economic/welfare ‘policies’. I’ve never been a fan of the lefts ‘purity testing’ of ideals/demographics. Anyone who’s not a rich, straight white man should really be voting for Harris. When we actually stand together for basic common sense, we win. These fascists only have the illusion of power when WE the people are complacent/divided.

[@slowrunn3r88]

@ and that’s the other thing - if the left would actually unite, we could dismantle the system (or at least severely weaken it). But the left is so busy, as you said “purity testing” or some call it “litmus testing” so worried about “if you’re not perfect, don’t join us!” And then nothing gets done, fascism gets what it wants: the left busy infighting each other

[@scpatl4now]

Trump to Netanyahu ... Do what you need to do. Any Arab or Palestinian American needs to read that one line

[@unbreakableldorado7723]

yes, and the statement of Kushner about oceanfront property!!! Sent it to some people if necessary..

[@bigchungus5000]

love how you're trying to browbeat Palestinian and Arab Americans for feeling angry at the arch-zionist Biden-Harris administration. Typical liberal. I bet you value social liberalism in America (something I think desperately needs to be rolled back a good degree) over the lives of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, while Gaza and Lebanon are castigated by Biden-Harris for daring to take up arms against a genocidal expansionist enemy. Harris can't even talk about israel's genocide and the pain of Palestinian and Lebanese people without bringing up "october 7th 2023" and repeating verbatim things that have been proven to be lies made up by israel or things they have zero evidence for (which means they're also lies).

[@AmeenAhmed1105]

Thank you Steve! I genuinely could not have said it better myself.

[@nicksoapdish157]

I voted Harris/Walz today! I'm very happy about that!

[@cranjismcbasketball9915]

This deserves a standing ovation

[@MyMagnificentOctopus]

You remind me of my response to those who say they are "tired of voting for the lesser of two evils" that the only alternative is to accept the greater of two evils.

[@briannamay5459]

Why should I vote for Kamala? Other than "atleast shes not trump"? Why should I waste my time this election? The fascism is still there, even if Trump loses 2024, the fascist heart of republicans is still alive and will just keep throwing up more until they win. Meanwhile you aren't doing anything to combat that or even defend our rights? We have known for 30 years that republicans were planning on axing roe v wade. Why didn't you liberals do anything about it? Why didn't you codify roe v wade when you had the chance under Obama? Or even with LGBT rights, we know they are going to axe gay marriage too. Why didn't you codify gay marriage? Or why are you allowing the republicans to set the narrative on Trans rights? Like with Ted Cruz vs Colin Allred, Ted Cruz made an attack ad on trans people and Colin just walked back his position and turned against trans people. Why should I as a trans woman have any trust in you? How do I know you liberals won't attack trans rights if pressured by the right? Collin did so how do I know you won't? Yeah if Trump wins our rights are gone, but our rights are gone even if Kamala wins anyway. I have no trust in her or the liberals to actually defend me from the right wing fascists so why should I even bother voting?

[@SeanCrosser]

​​@@briannamay5459 Your rights will be further eroded by the oncoming Trump presidency, but at least your conscience is clear. That's great. EDIT: At least vote for democrats so that people who do believe in democracy and checks and balances will hold power. You'll at least have better odds at actual progress, instead of further erosion of the scant protections you do have, and backsliding into conservative fascism under Trump and his profiteering cronies.

[@dianne5086]

Steve, I hope you will do a video about Trump's MSG hatefest. They said the quiet part out loud there.

[@jimcalhoun361]

Didn't say the quiet part out loud. Screamed it to the rafters.

[@ballatore34]

Choices are Harris or Trump. Voting Trump is worse for Gaza. Not voting helps Trump and is also worse for Gaza. Netanyahu and Trump are bros

[@skyvista1130]

I'm voting for Harris for many reasons, but at the very least, she gives the anti-gen-o-cide left and right a common enemy. Trump tips the balance in a grim direction.

[@lindsaykervin8674]

Well articulated. I say that every election, from local, to federal. I feel your frustration, and even anger.

[@brycengledhill8799]

This is why the American election system needs a reform. Until then, vote democrat every time for your personal best case scenario

[@MisstressSamantha]

Big love to you. You are appreciated.

[@siamac7705]

Thanks for posting this, Steve!

[@odowan]

Palestine is such a difficult topic for me, as an American Jew who has been critical of Israel since long before this most recent conflict even began. To see so many people who I would have once considered allies start chanting anti-semitic slogans and spouting Hamas talking points, and refusing to have any kind of conversation about viable, peaceful solutions to an extremely complicated geo-political situation is so disheartening. Even more so when these people I once considered allies have become so radicalized that they would consider handing the country over to a literal Nazi in order to "teach the US a lesson."

[@rainsoakedpuppy]

It really, really makes me wish that there was some sort of momentum for ranked choice voting to exist in this country. Like, here in New Mexico we have a socialist candidate for president. Without something like ranked choice, I can't even voice an opinion on her without it being a waste. Rest assured I'm be voting Harris/Walz, but not without some harrumphing that my vote has to be a purely pragmatic decision.

[@riff727]

Dude, well said by both of you. I have been trying to get this through my sons head to no avail. Really hoping this election comes out with Kamala and Walz victorious. I fear for what the future holds if it goes the other way

[@dylansparrow6169]

Thank you SO much for articulating this, Steve.

[@rustyshackelford312]

It's sad that this needs to be said. I would figure if you know enough about this issue to be protesting over it, you would know this without needing to be told.

[@JP-JustSayin]

A vote is not a love letter. Its a chess move.

[@rikorobinson]

I agree to a point. I was going to finally vote for a candidate that shares my values far more than Dems--or especially Repubs do--over Israel (or abstain where there was no such candidate), but decided I needed to hold my nose and vote Democrat one more time because of what's at stake. So I have already voted and I voted blue down the line. But I am SICK TO DEATH of doing that. At some point, we have to admit to ourselves that maybe the only way to get through to Democrat politicians and force them to do the right thing over maintaining the status quo is to let them lose and lose big. Because they may be infinitely better than conservatives on every single issue, but they're still a net negative. And the lesser of two evils thing is unsustainable. Every election it's, "This is the most important election of our lifetime. You have to hold your nose and vote Democrat." And the Ratchet Effect inevitably steers us to the right; just slower than it would if conservatives were in office. Something has to give. I think this might be my last time voting Democrat. The status quo just isn't good enough and I see no other way to move past it than incentivizing Democrats with a major loss. As a black man in this country, I'm tired of having to settle. I'm tired of things ratcheting to the right. And I'm at the point where I'm sick of repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Something has to give...

[@Naris48]

The only way to make a difference is to work to have a 3rd party starting locally and move up to state and then federal levels, in all 50 states rather than voting for a 3rd party president that is unlikely to win and even if that person somehow managed to win would not have any support in congress and therefore be unable to do anything. Even better is to work and support reforming voting to replace the current winner takes all methodology to rank-choice, star or some other form of voting, in all 50 states.

[@GaylenOraylee]

"let them lose and lose big" So fuck all of the people who get thrown in internment camps or are murdered by our own military because you wanted to make a point? Trump and his cronies have readily admitted that this is the plan for people who disagree with them. Maybe you're not as left as you think you are, since you don't seem to think they'll see fit to chuck you in with the rest of us.

[@rikorobinson]

Well said! And mostly agreed! But I wouldn't vote 3rd party with the delusion that they'd win. I'd do so to send a message to the Democrats that the only way they'll win going forward is to stop being what liberals are in every country, including ours although we lie to ourselves about it, and that's a center-right party. They're just conservative lite, but since we have no real left in this country, they can get away with calling themselves "the left'. They are not, which makes them far more like conservatives than they are pro-proletariate folks like me. The party needs to be reformed or replaced. And if they need to lose big in order to FINALLY get past this status quo of people like me having to vote for them and their status quo so that someone worse isn't voted in, then so be it. They love that brain-dead, hate-filled conservatives are our only other option, because that means they can keep up their own corruption unimpeded and even have some folks think they're heroes for it.

[@ButMadNNW626]

@@Naris48 All that, plus getting rid of the Electoral College and getting the Citizens United money out of politics. OP also needs to focus on local and regional races near them rather than laying everything at the feet of the president. Pressure your local, state, and federal reps to support the causes you support, encourage others to do the same. Enough mayors, governors, and congresspeople support the thing, change can happen. Everything is not fully the president's responsibility.

[@wartgin]

If people really want to be able to cast their votes for 3rd party candidates in the future, they should be working now to enable ranked choice voting. That way you can vote for whoever you wish in the first round confident that the worse candidate will not win unless they already have more than 50% of the votes, in which case you would have lost anyway.

[@asenathdrew94]

That's what I'm planning on doing. If we get ranked choice voting it will stop third party candidates from being spoilers, allow dissenters to have a voice, and help get eyes on important issues.

[@Eloraurora]

Just put in my vote for an amendment that'll let independents vote in AZ state primaries, and lower their candidates' signature requirements to be on the ballot to the same number as Reps/Dems. They're hoping to use it as a step towards ranked-choice voting within the state in future.

[@AuntieMamies]

They don't say anything about the 2 party system when it isn't an election year. Dissatisfaction with the 2 party system is just an excuse

[@underdawg47]

Democrats will never vote for RCV

[@AuntieMamies]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 just do something when it's not an election year. That's all. Stop going as far as whining about it and then just do nothing

[@marthaking6779]

Thank you for the clear thinking and speech! Invaluable!

[@ReelPodcasts]

Having read Bob Woodruff's book about the BTS of the Gaza and Ukraine wars I've got a better understanding on what has gone on over there (obviously not a full picture but a better one). Harris, as she's painted in the book, is much more about balancing a tightrope between supporting what's going on and I feel will go through with threats of pull out that Biden probably would never do.

[@stuartcastle2814]

Trump and his nephew Jared have both made comments about taking Gaza as an ideal place for beachfront property.

[@unbreakableldorado7723]

exactly!

[@TheKitsuneCavalier]

After voting for the candidate that's closer to your destination, spend the next two, four, or six years PUSHING them towards your destination!!

[@ButMadNNW626]

I think it was AOC who said something like do you think your chances of successfully protesting an issue like Gaza are better under Harris or under Trump? (And considering that Trump asked if the military could shoot protestors in the leg...)

[@BettyDockery-k8i]

Steve, great point, THANK YOU.

[@patmischel6883]

Dump won't do anything.

[@joelpearson2352]

Don’t understand how people can separate their conscience from real life consequences??!! Real lives gone so that they can pretend their hands were ‘clean’?

[@jenniferdunn2273]

Slow clap. This was so well said. Everyone needs to hear this, they need to listen, and they need to vote Harris. Agreed, NOT going to THE destination. But, she will take us CLOSE to our destination. She will be much more agreeable to discuss the issue in Gaza. Trump absolutely will not.

[@siamac7705]

I heard that analogy (destinations) a couple years ago, and it really struck a chord with me.

[@jenniferdunn2273]

@siamac7705 I'm 48 years old and it seems Republicans have known this my whole life. They have been playing this long game since at least the 1960s and the equal rights laws. Patience is a virtue that we all need to have.

[@siamac7705]

@@jenniferdunn2273 Absolutely correct!

[@isbestlizard]

Mate, she wasn't even agreeable to letting a Palestinian talk at the national convention. You need your head examined if you think after your leverage is gone, she's going to suddenly change her mind and become a friend to Palestine, or become 'agreeable' or 'shift to the left'.

[@siamac7705]

@@isbestlizardthe other option is Trump. Who there’s no chance of that with and will accelerate everything we’re trying to stop.

[@nymphrodellsalavin]

Bernie uploaded a video about this to his youtube channel btw

[@KenKleier]

💙💙💙

[@Dan-xe4ec]

I remember in 2016 how upset the left was by Hilary. But we would have been so much better off if she had won. I don’t think Kamala is the best but I do know our country will become worse if she doesn’t win regardless of my feelings on foreign policy.

[@Redhotsmasher]

No you wouldn't, look up the TPP that Trump stopped that Hillary was in favor of. I hate Trump as much as the next (sane) guy but the TPP would've been worse politically, and harder to overturn too.

[@siamac7705]

@@Dan-xe4ec They say 2024 is the most important election of our lifetimes. And it is the most important REMAINING election. But the most important WAS 2016 and we failed.

[@Dan-xe4ec]

@@RedhotsmasherI appreciate the reminder I just don’t believe that one policy in which she flip flopped on is worth all of the Supreme Court decisions in addition to all of the other damage trump has done.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@Dan-xe4ec Indeed.... Any 'one thing that would have been horrible for the country' is being weighed against the whole 4 years of Trump! There is no way any one of the policies Hillery ran on would be worse then the day to day procedures of Trump....

[@mistermoo7602]

The snag with this attitude is that "foreign policy" is just "policy" now. You can wire money anywhere in the world and meet to speak with any official you need to get a hold of over the internet. Normalizing Genocide anywhere normalizes it everywhere in our current era.

[@Mgauge]

People who think that they're "taking a moral stand" by sitting back and letting someone they know will make this and many other issues infinitely worse when they could at least try to mitigate them proves that the only thing they really care for is their own sense of self-righteousness. If the worst happens, they'll sit back and indulge their sense of moral or intellectual superiority while the world burns because they consider their personal feelings the most important thing.

[@TheKitsuneCavalier]

If Steve or anyone else cannot convince you to vote for Kamala Harris, please, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE, show up to the polls to, WRITE IN A PROTEST VOTE!!! If you refuse to vote at all then it won't count as a protest of any kind. No one will notice. While you are there, PLEASE VOTE DOWN BALLOT!!!! Elections for senators, representatives, governors, etc, are just as crucial, and your vote can make a bigger difference, than for president!

[@Hjy84]

Voting is not supposed to be a loyalty test to a party. That's how MAGA thinks. Don't like either choices? Pick whatever opposition you want to face: one who is not going far enough, or one going the opposite direction.

[@snoopychrysler]

Remember... IF THEY COME FOR ME IN THE MORNING... THEY WILL... AND THEY'LL DO IT, 100%... THEY WILL COME FOR YOU IN THE NIGHT!!! An' that's a GIVEN.

[@nicres]

This is what I’ve been trying to explain to my “progressive” friends who have decided to withhold their vote “in protest”. Like, NOW?? After 20 years of voting and being “activists” is when you’ve finally had enough make a stand with your vote, this election?? … and it’s taking action AGAINST democracy, when we’re on the literal brink of fascism… they give their vote/voice/power away. One “friend” said that I was “no better than MAGA” for voting Harris 😵‍💫

[@Byrthor]

We've been saying this to the people who say they'll vote third party/withhold votes for months and they keep ignoring us. Many of them don't care, at all.

[@charlie2640]

I agree. This is so very obvious. It's difficult for me to understand people that don't realize this.

[@beefandbarley]

We live in a time where emotions destroy the ability to think. imho

[@ButMadNNW626]

@@beefandbarley High emotion has always and will always destroy our ability to think rationally. It's hardwired into our brains for survival purposes: you don't _think_ about jumping out of the way of a speeding car, your instinctive fear drives that jump because thinking is too slow, relatively speaking. I forget who said it, whether they were a psychologist or neurologist, but someone once said that a nuclear scientist in a rage is no more intelligent than a five-year-old having a tantrum. And this is why the GOP/MAGA disseminates the rhetoric they do: they want to keep their supporters scared of everyone *except* the conservative leaders so they're easier to control. For the party that claims not to believe science, they certainly understand that part of it.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

I will admit this one confuses me the most.... Supporting Trump over Gaza makes the least amount of sense!

[@jonathanhosh4459]

It’s more about democrats taking the votes of Arabs and other poc for granted

[@jaredofmo]

Just voted for Harris/Walz, to remove my state abortion ban and to allow rank choice voting. I hope the conflict ends soon, but I fear many more will be harmed.

[@ShinGallon]

Voting for harm reduction is the adult thing to do, protest voting a 3rd party candidate is the act of a spoiled child who doesn't want to eat their vegetables.

[@dairebulson7122]

That depends on whether you live in a swing state. If you don't, go ahead and vote third party

[@elijahanderson3288]

Or maybe it's the act of people who aren't buying into the Democrats' fearmongering and take a hardline on genocide being committed with our money and without our permission. Kamala has already said that she's gonna support Israel's right to defend itself, which is just another way of saying the same thing Trump said, just a little nicer. And she's not gonna stop the cop cities either. Voting's not enough. We need to do more in the interim. Fascism is on the rise in this country no matter whose ass is in the seat of power, and we gotta guard against it.

[@ButMadNNW626]

@@dairebulson7122 Theoretically, any state could become a swing state if enough people take that advice. I live in California, bluest of the blue, and I wouldn't ever disrespect my right and privilege to vote by wasting it on a risky move.

[@dairebulson7122]

@ButMadNNW626 If the Democrats are the party that aligns with your views, that's up to you But changing a deep blue state like California on a dime is statistically infinitesimally unlikely After all, theoretically, if enough people take my advice, a third party candidate would win outright. But that's not very likely at present, is it?

[@kentesdall308]

Watching this election take shape has made me very scared of what kind of outcome we get. From what I see and hear from a lot of people is the unwillingness to vote for a woman and especially one of color. The country is so bigoted and racist it's hard to tell how this will turn out. The country has always appeared to me to think that women are second class citizens in the US society.

[@Stryder467]

Voted early last Friday. Sanity must prevail.

[@ritacampbell3833]

Thank you.

[@claybford]

Steve, your earlier videos played a substantial part in bringing me over from a staunch 3rd party position - thank you 🙂

[@ButMadNNW626]

Thank YOU for seeing the pragmatic side of things!

[@rustyshackelford312]

About time somebody said it.

[@Liam1694u]

Someone told me they could never vote for Harris or Trump because they could never put aside their principles. I responded, "it's not your principles you are protecting. It's your pride." I say, f**k your pride. If you truly care, vote Blue! Vote Harris! 💙

[@gothatfunk]

"Yeah, I realise Darth Vader slaughtered the Jedi, and helped the Emperor blow up a planet, but Princess Leia hasn't stopped the war on Mandalore"

[@JonathanMacArthur]

Okay, Steve. Let’s say that I agree with you (which I mostly do). Voting for the candidate closest to the desired outcome or world view makes sense. However, can we agree for the sake of argument that the candidate options are not guaranteed to get better in the future? In fact we’ve arguably experienced worsening over the past decade, haven’t we? What is the course of action that you’d suggest if, in 2028, both candidates were both hypothetically worse for Palestinians, LGBTQ+, women, Blacks, et al? Should we continue to choose the least bad candidate regarding a humanitarian crisis? I think that at least part of the logic being applied by third-party “vanity” candidates is that they don’t want to be complicit in supporting a candidate that contributes to the problem (even if the contribution is less than what would have been cause by the other guy.) I think that they are hoping (even vainly) that taking their vote away from a mainstream candidate will motivate that candidate’s party to stop taking those voters’ support for granted. It’s a political form of “taking my ball and going home”. When you say that you can’t understand why they’d do that, can’t respect it, aren’t you overlooking how people for whom a system doesn’t work might not have a lot of goodwill remaining for that system? It’d be like asking Negro slaves to fight for the Continental Army to defend the land and the people that they’re familiar with over a monarch that had no particular love for them. And if the Continental Army wins, they still get to be slaves. You might expect them to sit that out, if it were an option. Love your channel. But this question really sticks in my craw, making this episode a long-winded endorsement of choosing the lesser of two evils (even if the Democrat is undoubtedly a LOT less evil overall.) Be well, man.👊🏾

[@seanraf2554]

Hit the nail on the head. The Biden administration is funding and supporting an active genocide RIGHT NOW and doing anything and everything it can to cover it up and continue doing so. If you vote for Harris despite all that, the democrats are not suddenly going to try and become better. No, they're being rewarded and encouraged to keep becoming worse because they know they have your vote no matter what they do. It's always 'next time' with these people. They've been saying that for how many years now? It's culminated in this where we're arguing that voting for a candidate that actively supports a genocide is the "only moral choice." What's the next goal post going to be? They're really going to end up voting for a n*zi party as long as the alternative is worse with the way things are going.

[@michellem6826]

The problem with your question is starting in 2028 and pondering the same question. Vote for Harris and if she wins continue to work for change. Expecting 2028 to be different, with no grassroots action on your part is insane. If Trump wins you won’t have to worry about voting. He has already stated this would be the last time any American would have to worry about voting again if he is elected. On a side note, Black people always have choices like this.

[@r.pres.4121]

If Jill Stein or any of those other third party candidates had any concern or love for this great country, they would’ve ended their campaigns and endorsed Harris/Walz. But they are only out for their own self aggrandizement at this country’s expense. That is putting us at risk for a possible Trump/Vance victory which will be horrendous.

[@M__C__M]

I voted for Kamala on Friday of last week, mainly because I reached the same conclusion, that Trump would be worse on every metric than Kamala (including Palestine). However, when we inevitably see Kamala drop the ball on Palestine and other campaign promises (as Presidents are want to do) we should criticize the hell out of her and her cabinet. Genocide isn’t brat, and neither is supporting Israel’s unquenchable bloodlust. I honestly don’t see this changing any time soon, regardless of how loudly we demand it. Not only do the Israeli’s line the inside of their pockets, but the US strategically depends on Israel’s geographical location, so they’ll want to keep it friendly. I don’t see a way back for this country, we’re morally doomed.

[@ButMadNNW626]

Firstly, just correcting a typo: "are *wont* to do", not "want". :) Secondly, thank you for voting for Harris and I would ask that before you preemptively get ready to blame her for "dropping the ball" on anything, you first check how much of it was under her direct control. After 2008, Republicans entered Congress with one goal and one goal only, which they openly stated: Block Obama from accomplishing anything. The president has limits on their power and congressional Republicans have been running a platform of obstruction for nearly two decades now. So, just keep an eye on that rather than already assuming everything is the president's fault. Thanks.

[@krank23]

Some people say you should "vote your conscence" or "vote with your heart". F that. Act strategically at all times to achieve your goals. Identify your goals, identify your potential actions, analyze which action brings you closer to your goals. Don't trust your guts, don't trust your intuition. Your guts has, to quote High Fidelity, sh!t for brains. Trust your rational mind. You shouldn't try to find a candidate that 100% agrees with you on every issue. You should make the choices that lead to the best, or least worst, outcome. Not voting does nothing good. It only helps Trump and reduces the trust in the system further. The lower the participation in the election, the less legitimacy the whole system has. And while you may think that's what you want, ask yourself what you thik will come in its stead. Voting third party for president is basically the same as not voting. If you want to vote third party, do it in minor elections. Get a third party candidate to run for mayor or governor or something. The US needs third parties and to break up the two party system, but there's a heck of a lot of laws that need to be changed for that to be even remotely possible. You're not going to get a third party candidate as president any time soon.

[@spencermillard1]

I've had multiple online debates with other left aligned people on this issue and so many have totally embraced accelerationism, just soothing their own conscience or full-on defeatism. I'm glad to see someone articulting my point of view for once.

[@cobaltrogue9175]

Not conscience. Ego.

[@Thewhitedragon27185]

The lack of critical thought and any amount of foresight to vote for anyone other than Harris is scary

[@luckybear101]

If we want third party candidates to be viable, we need to vote for Harris and then push for ranked choice voting after the election.

[@marshmello3455]

I have said and will continue to say that the, "But Gaza!" argument continues to fall short when you face a crucial truth: Harris will *at worst* maintain the status quo as regards the Israel-Palestine situation while Trump will *at best* maintain the status quo as regards the Israel-Palestine situation. If Gaza is the only thing you care about, then that distinction is salient and should matter to you.

[@thorne5072]

I feel like I recall Kamala signalling being harsher on Israel. Then her messaging became more complacent. Democrats strategists are incredibly out of touch and I kind of feel like that’s what happened.

[@thomasd4738]

not letting the Arab American woman speak at the convention was an immense slap in the face

[@shizuwolf]

Basically: if you don't want the US to end up like Gaza, vote Harris

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

Completely agreed. We have to vote for the candidate through which the foundation for change, progress, and righteousness will at least remain. All we get under Trump is maximized suffering, cruelty, setbacks, and regression. If we don't vote for Kamala, we will not have a system under which we can affect any change and get to the place of progress we want in the future. Please, VOTE! 💙💙💙

[@VoodooV1]

If we lived in a perfect world, I would argue that the dems deserve to lose the presidency over Gaza...but we don't live in a perfect world. and we know Trump would be worse.

[@AngelaShawWestoven]

Every American President has supported Israel since 1948 and it's not going to change any time soon. I'm 65 and remember my parents watching this same thing on the news when I was a child.

[@ButMadNNW626]

I've been saying similar. I'm 45, my parents are 80, and we've seen this cycle repeat multiple times over the decades. The conflict in Gaza has existed since before I was born and flares up now and then. Geopolitics are more complex to resolve than getting mad at your friend and blocking them on social media. And the US president can influence, but not control, what other countries' leaders do. So being so mad over Gaza that you'd vote for a literal fascist thinking it'll somehow help is completely bizarre to me. [Last paragraph deleted because I was just echoing Steve in the video.]

[@despozblehero2262]

I personally think what's happening in Gaza is outrageous... but I also understand the political stuff involved is complex and been going on for decades and there's no foreseeable easy solution... just how our silly world works... By not voting for kamala, people are not protesting. They're enabling the worst option.

[@jaredgreenhouse6603]

How do you hold a Dem's feet to the fire to change anything while they're in office? If Kamala wins now, it'll only prove that a GENOCIDE the likes of which we've seen isn't bad enough to stop her from winning office. What INCENTIVE would Democrats have to alter their policy at all? We saw 200-300 THOUSAND people march in DC a month after October 7th to no avail. A VAST MAJORITY of the electorate are DEMANDING a ceasefire while our admin has done nothing. How can you convince people appalled by this genocide that Harris will be any different than the predecessor she has been in lock-step with?

[@lexa_power]

Thanks for this video. A lot of my friends need to see this 💙 You’re so well spoken on these issues, please don’t ever just stick to Star Trek 💙

[@TheJacobG]

You gotta play with the hand you are dealt. That hand may suck, the rules of the game may suck, but that's too bad. This is cards we got right now. We can and should work to getting a better hand and better rules next round. But we can't do that until this round is finished and we beat the guy to wants to flip the table.

[@FireElement7]

With Harris we have a path forward. We have the possibility of a path towards peace. With her opponent, we have nothing but chaos and destruction. Please vote 💙

[@anjar6483]

Voting is the start of the conversation, not the end, so vote for who you'd rather be talking to. Its going to be way easier for people to organize and support Palestinians under a Harris presidency than a Trump presidency.

[@purplelibraryguy8729]

I'm Canadian, so any skin I have in this game is indirect. But I still have some thoughts. I'm in general agreement, but I want to qualify it a bit. So, first, we should note that not all states are seriously contested and because of the weird nature of US presidential elections, that means lots of votes are meaningless anyway. If you're in a strong red or blue state, there's no strategic difference between voting Harris and voting for a third party. Second, not relevant to this election or, probably, any election any time soon, but--this kind of thing is why it would be good for presidential-type elections (but NOT legislative ones) to be done by ranked ballot. Then people could express their preferences for third parties without risk, by ranking say Stein first and Harris second, and this might help such third parties to grow if they demonstrated strong first-choice support. Finally . . . Steve's argument is strong, and it's logical . . . but when it comes to people of Palestinian descent or even Moslems more generally, I would just find it hard to condemn someone who heard me out and then said "I'm sorry, but I cannot bring myself to cast a positive vote for someone who is actively aiding and abetting the genocide of my people. Surely there is a point where the 'lesser evil' is just not lesser enough to actively support, and surely helping make my relatives become victims of genocide has to be that point, or else just where the hell can I draw the line?" I mean, it's one hell of an ask. It's like "She's killing us, and you want me to vote for her?" Maybe if people really, really want folks who are backing off from supporting Harris because of Gaza to vote, they should offer something in return, like "OK, if you vote for Harris, I will personally start showing up to Gaza rallies. Convince some of your friends, I will corral some of mine."

[@ApplejackOfAllTrades]

I have a good reason not to vote in November... that is that I am not eligible to do so. Godspeed down there

[@vietnamd0820]

agreed…I keep telling people we can vote for Kamala in November and protest her policy on Gaza if she isn’t responsive to the Palestinians

[@susansantucci5857]

I am new to your pod cast. Thank you, I have gotten some insight from watching you! I am in Pa; & have already voted. My biggest issue is Women’s rights, but Gaza is upsetting me. Thanks!

[@NeptunesHorses5909]

Excellent point, I've voted blue early. I'm in my 60s and have been voting progressive in the primaries and D in the general, never R, so Bernie, Bernie (last standing as consolidation for Biden had removed Warren, I was torn), and uncommitted in the Drumph era. Did I think Clinton or Biden ideal then or now? No, but always preferable to the 40+ year regression starting with Reagan and the evangelicals. I'm tired of being jealous of the Nordic social democracies, but find life in the northeast coastal megalopolis mostly reasonable if inequitable, and my family, social history, and stuff are here. I'm retraining in grad school for a last career change. A side effect of all profits to the shareholders is that 50 percent of workers over 50 lose a long term job; happened to my dad at 62 (mandatory early retirement) and me at 58 (merger downsizing, outsourcing) at half his salary. My studies are for a majority unionized field, will be working as long as I can, full to part time.

[@AmySalazar-r1x]

I’m angry, disgusted about Gaza, and that’s WHY I’m voting for Harris 💪

[@Echo81Rumple83]

THANK YOU!!!! another reason to vote for Harris is because at least she's WILLING to listen to her constituents about the issues while TFG WON'T. he'll release his hounds, aka his prowd boyz on you for even demanding he does the right thing. get Harris in, and we can hold her feet to the fire.

[@youshouldreadmore6382]

Thank you for this! Also another couple of things to consider - > Elon Musk, one of the people Trump is considering putting in his cabinent already has a plan to slash a lot of government programs and has stated, "A lot of people who rely on government aid are about to get uncomfortable." That means things like Medicade, Social Security, Veteran's Benefits. Do you want more homeless elderly/disabled/veterans? Because that's how you get more homeless elderly/disabled/veterans! Also Project 2025 is a dangerous thing that will affect anybody not rich.

[@mathiasbartl903]

Not his defense contracts, tho.

[@nki5ikni5i45]

Thanks for the vedio

[@justsomeitweeb]

I think a bigger thing to address is the people who hesitate over this aren't consequentialists. We can talk about consequences all we want but that's just not enough to convince some people.

[@zyvaux]

Not voting or voting for Tre45on is going to hurt not only Gaza but to us all as well! VOTE BLUE! 💙

[@poigntless]

Lo my clean, clean hands; Washed in the blood of my love. What fault? For nothing?