Laziness: A Core Conservative Value

[@MH_Bikes]

"But I saw it on TV!" - Republican Presidential candidate 2024

[@tskmaster3837]

"But I saw him on TV!" Republican voters in 2016.

[@Vhailor2003]

"The immigrants are eating people! They're coming in and eating the skin right off peoples faces! They're consuming the brains!" "Just to fact check here: There's no evidence immigrants are eating brains." "But I saw it! I saw it on the TV! They were eating the brains! All the brains are eaten!" "That was night of the living dead, it was a movie scene!" "But I saw it on TV!"

[@Widkey]

"But the Lizard people told me!" Republican voters 2025.

[@TimelyAbyss]

Well in all fairness that was also a big reason Arnold got elected too.

[@merphul]

He actually told people to refer to Hannity, Ingraham and Watters for confirmation of his "facts."

[@johnsnodgrass6769]

Ohio is a very conservative state so how did 20,000 Haitians come to settle there? They were invited by the town representatives, conservative persons I assume. So why are conservatives so upset at their presence? By all accounts they have taken jobs no one else wanted and have bolstered the economy. It couldn’t be their skin color, or could it?

[@GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub]

Also majority of immigrants come from very socially conservative CHRISTIAN countries and are generally very adherant to these beliefs. So yes, it's the scary brown people effect.

[@rmo9808]

The city was desperate and needed cheap labor. What they didn't consider was that these people were going to work harder than them and do a better job than them. They've become a not insignificant part of the population that might out compete the locals and take over instead of being quiet second class citizens.

[@kyzlekiko]

One of the plant owners in Springfield was interviewed and he said that the Haitian workers show up to work. The other side of that is that the locals he hired dont show up to work.

[@lion-667]

That's what I keep saying , the people that are coming from central and south America are Christians and the only reason trump and his followers don't like them and even hate them is because of their skin color.

[@GiggaGMikeE]

It's because they are Black immigrants. That's all. Nothing complex about it. "Black people are scary savages that are coming to ruin your way of life" is not a new conservative talking point.

[@jessilaurn]

Trump has never had to actually *work* for anything in his life; he has always assumed that everything is simply his due.

[@Talisguy]

And because of this, he has no frustration tolerance or persistence, and he's never needed to actually be good at anything or mature as a person.

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

The arrogance of inherited wealth.

[@emanimal728]

Besides Musk, Trump is the most prominent example of Affluenza.

[@justinjoseph6966]

Yup, as the late great Ann Richards said at the ‘88 DNC, “He was born with a silver foot in his mouth”.

[@geargeekpdx3566]

When you operate under the protection of the Electoral College, inherited wealth and white priveledge, laziness is merely the required subset of the entitlement you have been gifted to live above everyone else.

[@MaliYojez]

Trump in February 2017, "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

[@shnickityshnoo3574]

Narrator: "Everyone else already knew."

[@dennisyoung4631]

If you want something to work, then it needs a lot of intellectual effort.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@shnickityshnoo3574Yep. I could’ve told him that when I was 11-12 years old. All you need to do is think about it for a few minutes & you’d realize that trying to cover hundreds of millions of people is gonna be really complex.

[@normadgarmez7026]

RP: um yeah, every other nation that has it, knows.

[@kgs2280]

And yet, something like 32 out of 33 developerd countries have figured out how to do it, and they do it!

[@TheOG-GG]

Laziness, projection, selfishness, hate, and immorality.

[@LeoS.B.Rosevillte]

Sloth Pride Envy and Rage

[@simonfrederiksen104]

Don't forget the fear!

[@jeffc1753]

Terrorism, criminality, hypocrisy

[@kontiuka]

Donald Trump knows more about health care than probably anyone else. He has the best concepts of a health care plan.

[@jonathenweise6840]

Wrestling fan's hold my steel chair By God that's President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho music

[@jamesrichardson1326]

I loathed Reagan. So glad to have voted against him twice.

[@gogreen7794]

Reagan threw open the doors to the right-wing fringe and the evangelicals. Yeah, he faked his compassion for ordinary Americans too well.

[@pamr.429]

Right there with you! His deregulation binge is what has infected capitalism to the point it is now.

[@billyboy1093]

Myself as well, he ushered in greed and made it a human value.

[@aaronsarchive82]

My man! 🙌

[@jeannefoster5594]

“Trickle down”

[@bmurali5128]

“Ronald Reagan wasn’t good for you”: Good to hear someone finally say what needs to be said!

[@Echo81Rumple83]

here-here! no doubt the drip's policies somehow affected my family's life, from my father's understandable fears of all of us being prosecuted for being a secular family to my struggling with undiagnosed learning disabilities.

[@Insightfill]

"Reagan couldn't have made it. Certainly, Nixon couldn't have made it, because he had ideas. We might've made it, but I doubt it." - Bob Dole, 2013, on Reagan's odds of making a GOP primary at the time.

[@itsjustme7487]

I agree 👍 Ronnie started this horse manure.

[@Gretabpooh]

​@@itsjustme7487Reagan was the natural progression of not 100% repudiating Nixon. It's all been downhill from there. Palin and then the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus just put it on steriods so Trump could waltz in.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@itsjustme7487Unfortunately. I’ve always felt that Gerald Ford was the last halfway decent republican president😞

[@normative]

This reminded me of a favorite line from Fitzgerald: "They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

[@LisaFenton-h7f]

from F. Scott Fitzgerald's novel THE GREAT GATSBY. very much applies to Trump and most other Super Rich.

[@pancakes8670]

One of my favorite lines in the book.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

307 days playing golf while playing at being president, yet couldn't spare the time to formulate a health care plan.

[@elizabethsohler6516]

His HC plan echos the 3rd Reich. If the proposed cuts to Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security are deep enough, many sick and elderly will die. There will be less need for healthcare.

[@0cypher0]

But he does all of his best thinking on the golf course (because it's the only time he isn't continually thinking that he'd rather be on the golf course)...

[@julianparsons3027]

It's called priorities! ...SHIT priorities, but ya know, Priorities...

[@MichaelTheRead]

He also spent more taxpayer money on golf alone in 8 months than Obama spent on golf in 8 _years._ This was after saying he would be "too busy to golf." Just one of his many, many, many, _many_ bald-faced lies. Also, "I have ideas. I'm not yet President" has the same energy as "you have to pass the bill to see what's in it."

[@direwolf6234]

we remember when he said that he'd be too busy to golf .. where is that video clip ??

[@PooPooPaGoo]

And his cult will clap like barking seals at being told absolutely nothing.

[@lion-667]

Yes very true !

[@normadgarmez7026]

This is true. They will support anyone in their party no matter what.

[@blvckdxvth]

@@normadgarmez7026unless they aren’t covertly spreading hate of some sort. remember how hard they rode for the “rich men in richmond” guy up until he came out and said he’s not a bigot? suddenly, they were calling him a psy-op and a fraud.

[@danielcarrillo4385]

how dare you insult seals like that!!

[@masternoob9673]

That’s an insult to intelligent and compassionate seals

[@charlie2640]

Trump and others complaining that Harris was supplied with the questions before the debate is another example of Trumps laziness. It’s obvious what most of the questions will generally cover, immigration, economics, foreign affairs, envrioment, etc. just prepare for those general topics. Trump just did not bother to prepare. Of course the prep he needed most was to develop self control but that’s not going to happen. So he lost.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

It's interesting that he really has such a different work ethic from how I understand it. Right now when he is losing, his effort does not go into reevaluating if he is losing or not. It goes into convincing his supporters that heis still winning. Effectively, that will not change anything in the votes because the people that are willing to believe he is actually leading in the polls were not the ones hw had to win over. So what is he doing this for? Like, does he just not know how to approach a problem, or is the plan that he knows a guy that will help him solvethis problem for him?

[@charlie2640]

@@corneliahanimann2173 I'm not sure that Trump thinks of it this way but he clearly needs to be careful to not undermine his base because that's really all he has. It seems like they will not turn on Trump regardless of what he says but his supporters will clearly turn on anyone else and perhaps they will turn on Trump also. Trump has set up fairly strong lines that he just can't cross at this point. He needs to walk a careful line on abortion, Ukraine, gun control of any sort, election security, etc. If he changes course on any of those he runs the risk of losing some of his base. He also needs to keep saying as many outrageous things as possible as that is what his base likes. It's a "tiger by the tail" sort of thing. "Dictators ride to and fro on tigers from which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry." - Winston Churchill (While England Slept, 1938)

[@ozsheila55]

She cheated by doing debate prep. What a girly-swat she must be.🤓

[@themousethatroared3371]

​@@corneliahanimann2173 He really doesn't care about the presidency and has no intention of doing the work. He's simply desperate to stay out of prison.

[@SeanCrosser]

They could barely get the guy to the starting line, of course it'll feel like the opponent is starting ahead. Agent Orange was struggling to get on the track in the first place.

[@benjiskyler7836]

Trump: "I have concepts of a [healthcare] plan. I have ideas. I'm not yet President." Also Trump: "If [Kamala Harris, who is also not yet President] has all these great ideas, why hasn't she done them???"

[@Jakeurb8ty82]

and even he did operation _etback

[@glitchedoom]

"I'm not yet president" says man running for a second term.

[@greenredblue]

The difference is that Kamala is currently a powerful figure in the white house, exactly like Mike Pence, when... Oh, wait.

[@merphul]

He had 4 years of being president. No Healthcare plan, no immigration reform, actually increased the deficit and debt. But republican voters claim he'll do it this time while ignoring he made zero progress his first time

[@ldawg7117]

You can't fucking make this shit up.. how is any of this real? How there's ANYONE out there who ACTUALLY supports Trump and genuinely thinks he's for the people is so far beyond my comprehension, it's insane.

[@pssurvivor]

2 years ago i gave the comps for my PhD study. Standing there in front of my peers and my doctoral committee i had to be absolutely prepared to field a wide variety of questions spanning almost 100 books and as many papers, etc. I wish i'd known i could just say i had concepts of a plan on how i was going to do the research

[@USUE_Collxn]

He's never met a health care plan. He doesn't know anything about a health care plan.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

His health care plan is Diet Coke with his cheeseburgers and fries.

[@jasonbrown3925]

His plan is for you to #1 Make yourself rich, #2 Pay cash for any health care you need.

[@niningsetia4213]

Once THOLOL still expect another term just THOLOL That Mena's idiot When they can't ever touch me then the humiliation keep staggering and still until 2024 with Steroid cream to AGAINts asteroid Means what?🤣 We DNT do mistake twice She keep repeating thrillions times Means ..she replied herself as The most desperate idiots try to be Paul with no competency and qualifications by never concern the consequences only to get the tax tariffs higher by insulting to hurting by words and act is the only way to get notice that she demanding rally to get same level which is the due so much ENOUGH that We DNT care and never same level to be rival's Idiots (Paul wanna be)

[@SuprousOxide]

​@@jasonbrown3925 #0 Get a big loan from your father. If you lose that, get a second one.

[@MaijaKarklins]

Nobody knew health care was so complicated.. -donnie trump

[@thesquirrelchase-exploreph5635]

He's an old man. The hardest work he's probably ever done was to be forced to sit in court for his trial.

[@kentesdall308]

And fart.

[@gillianoneill3375]

And he fell asleep there!

[@gillianoneill3375]

@@kentesdall308 Oh yes, plenty of that! 😂😂😂

[@van3363]

Unlike most of the elderly who have spent our lives busting ass.

[@ushere5791]

exactly!

[@Bonniebluetours2010]

I really do believe authoritarianism is great for people who are 1) lazy and 2) cowards. It’s great for lazy people because when they hand power to an authoritarian leader, they no longer have to do any of their own thinking or feeling. They only have to follow orders. When one takes responsibility for one’s own thoughts and behavior, it’s so tiring. Being informed takes work, developing sympathy and empathy for other people takes work, devising and implementing real plans to make things better takes work. The cowardice comes into play because one has to be a little bit bold in order to challenge oneself, challenge other people, or take action to improve one’s community. There is always a chance it will fail, and failure is scary. Even if it succeeds, that success means things will change, and change is also scary.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

My ex often said dictatorships are the governmental version of a "school bully is an authority among the students" situation.

[@LisaFenton-h7f]

BRAVO!

[@pancakes8670]

Yeah. Authoritarianism, in any form, is innately a cuck ideology imo. It's for people who are too scared to make decisions and want to be told what to do. It's one reason I don't take groups like N@zis seriously, because that's all their worldview boils down to. They just want the strong man to tell them how to live their lives, like dogs.

[@EmyN]

Well said

[@trillionbones89]

Cowardice is actually quite important to fascists. Their main weapon is fear after all. Fear of the others. Fear of social advancement. Fear of responsibility. And then they try to make others afraid of them.

[@peterjohnson1091]

Privilege naturally leads to indolence.

[@ablarousse5273]

What does "indolence" mean? I'm too lazy to look it up.

[@gillianoneill3375]

@@ablarousse5273😂😂😂

[@JediMB]

Glad I play Final Fantasy XIV and didn't have to look that up now.

[@olivermorin3303]

Can concur; I've never had to work a single day in my life and I don't want to either.

[@trillionbones89]

​@@ablarousse5273"not feeling pain", but in an abstract sense

[@missionrd100]

And they say the poor are poor because they are lazy. Nice people.

[@Jake-xe1wu]

Now imagine how little self reflection they have about everything else.

[@andreah6379]

Ppl often criticize others who have less than them, are poorer than them, to not only project themselves & their basic truth, but to make themselves feel better as material wealth isn't really making us happier. In fact, the more $$$$ we have, it's never enough. Look at billionaires. Empty soulless losers. Happy ppl don't make others unhappy.

[@aaronadamson7463]

@missionrd100 I wouldn't say it's necessarily laziness. But often times it stems from a lack of understanding how to manage their money. In fact a lot of people who aren't even poor have no real money. In the depths of debt, and even tho they have a house and a car, they also have mortgages and loans to have them. So really it's closer to a lease than true ownership. But you can see that it's not just a lack of money that's the problem. Just look at what happens to the vast majority of lottery winners. These people become multi-millionaires over night essentially and within 5 years most of them become bankrupt.

[@Jake-xe1wu]

@aaronadamson7463 I've talked to a number of folks over the years about the concept of what they would do if they won the big lottery. It always amazes me how many say they have no idea. I'm like, "well first put back half solely to pay off debts and gain value in various markets and love off the gains alone for generations to come. Put a quarter into businesses as a venture capitalist with an environmentally sustainable mandate on spending. 20% directly to charity with a small portion being spent vetting all recipients. 5% to just have fun with."

[@seanLeprechaun]

Apparently Four Seasons Total Landscaping tweeted: "We'd like to announce that while we are not a hotel, we are a concept of a hotel."

[@DawnDavidson]

I laughed SO HARD when my friend read me that one! 😂🤣🤣

[@spongeintheshoe]

Huh. They never took me as the sort to poke fun at Trump.

[@seanLeprechaun]

@@spongeintheshoe could be bullshit. That's why I said apparently because I'm not on X. Still funny though LOL

[@sempressfi]

​@@spongeintheshoe there's an account called that, can't remember if it's parody or someone there actually runs it, but it's been posting zingers the last couple years lol

[@TheMisterGuy]

@@spongeintheshoe "Huh. They never took me as the sort to poke fun at Trump." I'm pretty sure it's a joke account, not the actual business. Then again, the actual business stifled their laughter and took the money when Rudy wanted to rent their parking lot for a press conference.

[@PocketBrain]

"... I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now." So you have nothing but time to work on that, no distractions of a real job to do... And yet, nothing.

[@Jake-xe1wu]

307 days of golfing while you were president get in the way?

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

This is what happens when you demonize 20,000 immigrants who come here for a better life

[@TheSuzberry]

Immigrants make lives better for all of us. The local businesses are doing better because they have more customers, the government is collecting more in taxes, real estate is worth more because more homes are needed, etc.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

If they get back in, noone will be coming here for a better life. Instead, WE will be the refugees, going to other countries for a better life.

[@Monsoonpain]

I saw bomb threats coming 2 seconds after the debate

[@sara-name-unavailable]

i Don't know how many Haitian immigrants are in America Or how many Other immigrants can see themselves as the ones to be next But i have a strong feeling trumps dumbass move will have inspired them to vote kamala Purely out of spite

[@Rayanesilva-ql9jx]

And they come from many countries that the USA tried to destroy. Search about US interference in South American dictatorships to find more info.

[@erf3176]

My conservative parents were never full GOP but absolutely noped out entirely due to Trump's "laziness". More of a mixed ballot couple but mostly voting for republicans over the years. They understand that having a political candidate feign religiosity to win their votes is part of the game. But Trump was so bad at it, because he wouldn't do any of the homework needed to even start to pull it off, that my old man found it insulting. There were many other things he didn't like about Trumpism. But it was that early on insult to his intelligence that just really got under his skin. It was as if republicans decided that it wasn't worth it to put in an effort to fool him. Once you nod along and go with a leader that thinks so little about you to even make an effort, you can't expect to be treated with any kind of respect or dignity going forward.

[@nataschavisser573]

This. The contempt for voters is clear.

[@mk1st]

Kudos to them. Knowing you are the mark is the trick to not being sucked into a con.

[@Eyclonus]

Trump sending Riot Teams from the Bureau of Prisons to take a photo-op with an upside down bible is the epitome of his Christianity

[@maryanneslater9675]

It is insulting. And MAGA don't make half the effort to think critically about it the way your father did. They "do their own research" -- which means getting outraged by a deceptive social media meme that confirms their own bigotry. Psychologists Babick and Hare, in their book Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work, noted that about a third of any population is gullible enough to be the victim of a con. Psychology prof Bob Altemeyer, in his book The Authoritarians, noted that about a third of the population leans toward being a right-wing authoritarian follower (characterized by wanting a "strong man" leader, being strongly conformist, and preferring punitive measures against anyone who doesn't conform). I seriously think Trump showed that there's a very strong overlap between the marks and the RWA followers.

[@theprinceofawesomeness]

I'm not religius my self but i know about christianity. A lot of people is acting like Trump is the next comming of Christ when he have more similarities to the Antichrist, it's proven most religius people don't know their own tenents. I'm happy hearing not all are fallling for the scam

[@jcsrst]

Laziness, stupidity AND entitlement in the case of trump.

[@ozsheila55]

Steve's right about the way he's be saying "you gotta vote for me - else the world will end".

[@andreah6379]

What about Cruz, Gosar, McConnell, Clarence Thomas & his gross wife, Paul Ryan, Nixon, W, or any other greedy, lie-for-low taxes Rethuglicon???

[@kuricodes_]

idk you're probably not gonna see this but i want to apologize for contributing towards the mass harassment you faced back in the gamergate days and also thank you and the entire rest of the leftist community for accepting me when i realized the cognitive dissonance in my beliefs

[@MrZauberelefant]

That's cool. Gamergate was designed to mislead well meaning, but frustrated young men. Good on you for growing!❤

[@damiansilva2454]

Hell yeah dude.

[@beefandbarley]

💪👏👍

[@charlieevergreen3514]

I don’t even know everything about gamergate, but I respect your willingness to adopt new evidence, and apologize for whatever you feel you made worse. Big respect, friend. No kidding. We should all be dignified enough to do so. Thank you thank you thank you.

[@LachNetSoDumm]

To me, one of the fundamental points of leftism is the general idea that nobody is a lost cause or beyond redemtion. It should be up to the right wing to be essentialist and condemn people for the rest of their lives because of something they did when (depending on age) their brain was not even fully developed. And your wrongdoing is really, really mild when compared to others'. Still, always nice to see people change for the better and grow

[@bubbispapa2053]

Remember right after taking office when Trump said, "Who knew health care could be so complicated?" 🙄

[@AggressiveLemur]

"I'm not President right now" neither is Harris, the person you're running against, and are blaming for not doing thing that falls under the President's responsibilities.....

[@RictusHolloweye]

That's something I noticed in Australian politics. Our right-wing party was elected to federal government in 2013 claiming they were "ready to govern". When they took charge, they had no policies. I repeat, they had no policies. They ended up adopting a wish list from a right wing think tank (the IPA) and using that as a policy platform. It went about as well as one could expect from such a lazy, half-arsed approach.

[@nicholasgallanis7539]

There is no replacement plan because replacing it is not part of the plan.

[@pancakes8670]

Exactly. Project 2025 includes a complete cutting of Social Benefits

[@andreah6379]

Hey, now!

[@andreah6379]

​@@pancakes8670Exactly. But just "cutting" government programs puts all those programs on the track of total destruction. That's really reichwing billionaires' plans since the late 80s. Little constant cuts, over time...

[@frevazz3364]

They want to remove and not implement anything so that it becomes even more barbaric (and profitable) than it already is.

[@mitchwalker9678]

Thank you for saying this out loud. Everything for those four shitty years was ‘two weeks away’ from being announced. People have such short memories…

[@ClarenceEwing]

One could arguably apply the laziness description to the Jill Steins and Cornell Wests of American politics, those folks who show up every four years offering themselves up as alternatives to the Democratic/Republican voting box stranglehold, but don't seem interested in doing the day-to-day work needed to craft policies, build coalitions, or make gains in any other areas besides the White House.

[@Eyclonus]

West I don't know much of, but Stein is a paid actor and spoiler candidate; there's the 4th July dinner in Moscow, the actual absence of any attempts to build power in the down ballot races, even if the Green Party won, the Senate and the House would be hostile and we would see bi-partisan support for tanking her administration

[@carpeXnoctem12]

That's a really excellent observation

[@aimeegeorge7113]

And thus, neither Jill Stein nor Cornell West have the slightest chance of actually winning. But Donald Trump does. Why?

[@krishadyn5211]

Bullseye. I keep hearing how bad centrist Democrats are, but if the loony left thinks they have a winner, why not try a red district? Tim Walz managed to. A single race is doable for even a small group. Stop telling me you can handle being in charge of big govt when you can't manage large organizations.

[@Scowleasy]

Jill stein was also photoed sitting at a table with Russian bigwigs years ago, including Putin. Funny how she only ever strives to be a spoiler candidate to drive votes away from the democrat

[@Kalizal]

I understand the point you are making but as someone who's favorite virtue is sloth, please don't lump Trump et. all in with us honest slackers. A truly lazy person finds the easiest way to get the job done while still accomplishing the task. It isn't about being efficient either. Efficiency to me means you want more productivity. Do you think the guy who invented the water wheel was trying to grind more wheat? No, dude was trying to get the milling done so he could go fishing. Sorry for the poor punctuation. I didn't bother to find my copy of Strunk and White.

[@ewhschrisc]

I get your point, but what you're describing doesn't really seem like 'sloth' to me. Sloth for me has always been a sort of apathy towards important tasks that need doing, a kind of disregard for things that are required. You are more of an efficient worker with a healthy work/life balance. You should be able to get that water wheel set up and done so you can go fishing; the people who want to grind more and more wheat demonstrate sloth since they are indifferent to the effort and people that set up that wheel in the first place and are just focused on quantity and profit; they are apathetic towards worker needs and desires.

[@ArkhamOrderly]

Guy figured out the wheel so he could get home faster for a nap.

[@maryanneslater9675]

Bonus points for having a copy of Strunk and White. I get you about being appropriately lazy. Robert Heinlein wrote a tale about a guy who worked his way up to be a navy admiral just to get out of having to get up at 5 a.m. to milk the cows on the farm.

[@xtinkerbellax3]

There's an interview with Fran Lebowitz on Amanpour and Company where she talks about sloth and being lazy and I've never related to something more.

[@XxThunderflamexX]

There are four core conservative values: low conscientiousness, high neuroticism, low openness, and low agreeableness.

[@geargeekpdx3566]

I'll go you one better: You must worship in a triangle with an authoritarian/deity/male father at the top in religion, family, business, politics and societal structure. Our end justifies all means.

[@XxThunderflamexX]

@@geargeekpdx3566 Oh, I was specifically referencing a 2022 study which linked scores of 4 out of the Big 5 personality traits to the term "asshole". Low conscientiousness, one of the findings, generally translates to "lazy".

[@Eyclonus]

You forgot enable corruption, while a lot of them are not corrupt, they create an environment that enables those who are to maximise opportunity and reduce exposure.

[@geargeekpdx3566]

@@XxThunderflamexX ah oh shit ok whoosh

[@DawnDavidson]

That’s hilarious. 😂❤

[@TupyWbie]

"I don't care about you, I just want your votes."

[@nunyastinkinbusiness]

That's prolly the truest comment he ever made in front of people.

[@brendathompson2288]

He surely did. They applaud anything he says.

[@EmperorSeramir]

​@nunyastinkinbusiness "I'm not a Christian." Is another one.

[@aaronsarchive82]

​@@EmperorSeramir Do you have a link to this one? Sounds amazing.

[@EmperorSeramir]

@@aaronsarchive82 I don't have a link, it'd probably get flagged and deleted anyway. However, he said it when he was holding a rally with a bunch of Christians. It was a few months ago. Correction: It was about a month ago.

[@floydb5668]

My Trump supporting friend actually sent me the clip with the woman and the cat and he believed it! I had to explain to him the woman was born in Ohio and obviously had mental health issues

[@chickenwarriorr]

I have to ask what the response was from them

[@floydb5668]

@@chickenwarriorr He laughed but he did believe me lol

[@ldawg7117]

I don't know how you're still able to even be friends with them. Not judging, more power to you, but damn, I couldn't do that. They're just so morally repugnant, willfully ignorant, xenophobic, etc.

[@Octoberfurst]

Remember when the Right was all upset about supposed kids in school who were furries and were given litter boxes to pee and poop in? It was one of the dumber things the Right brought up. Well my Trump loving brother called me when that was a thing and loudly ranted about how outrageous this was and that the schools have gone crazy, Etc. I calmly explained to him why that was a lie and how a school would never let a child go to the bathroom in a litter box due to hygienic concerns. I also pointed out that no child would want to crap in a litter box. Now my brother is dumb and gullible, but at least he can be reasoned with, and he came to realize that the story was a lie. However, I am waiting for the phone call from him talking about how Haitians are stealing people's cats and dogs and eating them raw. Sigh.

[@AliceErishech]

Sounds like your friend is better than my now ex-friend. Guy kept linking Andy Ngo (right-wing liar. Not even an agitator. He just outright lies about things and backs it up with edited videos that support what he's saying by leaving out any actually relevant information) tweets in our friend group's Discord. I explained how Ngo is completely untrustworthy and linked him info on how the guy's been convicted of fraud over his actions. He agreed with me that Ngo isn't a trustworthy source of information. And then no more than 15 minutes later was linking more Andy Ngo tweets. When I pointed this out to him, he blew up at me over it and started acting extremely insulting and condescending.

[@van3363]

Ronald Regan was an actor, and thats what he did. He acted like he cared.

[@Courageous91]

But Regan also put those who knew what the fuck they were doing on charge and listened to them (Or at least seemed to) Trump doesn't.

[@Grangolus]

​@@Courageous91Oh he put people who knew what they were doing in charge. They knew they needed to rob Americans and act like it was in the people's best interests. And that's what they did. It's what they want to keep doing, as a party.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Spoiler: Trump has no plan

[@Camcodrummer]

But..but..its a concept of a plan!!😂

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

The closest thing he has a to plan is what the Heritage foundation wrote up for him to sign. He'll let the despots do the thinking for him

[@Camcodrummer]

@@BlitzkriegOmegabut but.. he knows nothing about it ! As his name is mentioned in the 900+ pages 300 times..

[@OtakuD50]

He is telling the truth that he has concepts of a plan. The concepts: 1) Better than Obamacare 2) Call it Trumpcare, probably

[@RandyFortier]

If you heard this in Ron Howard's voice, you are my people.

[@Pallethands]

The core of conservatism is resistance to change. It's not surprising that they have no plan because that would require change. One could argue they might want to revert to a time before HMOs and health insurance, but that would go against their value of pro business. So the status quo is the only stance they can take. The problem is every American knows the current healthcare situation in the US is untenable, which leaves them with the only stance left which is to promise change and never deliver.

[@kevinlyles3355]

This is very insightful, thank you

[@kentesdall308]

The medical system doesn't want change, they want ALL your MONEY.

[@normative]

I'm frankly not sure that's true anymore. It used to be. But the sort of gestalt vibe of the MAGA folks does not seem particularly conservative, in that sense, to me. If anything, I'd call them reactionary radicals.

[@Pallethands]

@@normative that would be true of the MAGA crowd but I think it still stands with conservatism as a whole. MAGA doesn't have any better ideas than the old republican guard on healthcare

[@keirfarnum6811]

Correct and well analyzed. 👍🏻

[@Monsoonpain]

A hungry Immigrant who wanted to steal food....wouldn't steal a small creature like a cat which is near impossible to catch. Wouldn't they steal a loaf of bread?

[@damiansilva2454]

to be fair my fat ass cat is very easy to catch... the problem starts after you catch her. Shes 30% fluff 30% claws and 140% Hatred.

[@glitchedoom]

Harder to dehumanize them that way.

[@mikeymullins5305]

It seems to me to be connected to much older anti immigrant myths rather than fact.

[@emperorfrozenbillrulerofan8767]

@@damiansilva2454 So female Garfield?

[@pbbbtttt8185]

i think the stereotype has more to do with the fact that they're hatian than the fact that they're poor. stereotypes surrounding voodoo and stuff like that

[@EMSpdx]

To quote Kendrick Lamar: The audience is not dumb. Trump supporters absolutely know that DT don't not care about him, the country as a whole, and they are certainly not voting for him for policy. They are voting for Trump because he makes them feel good- about being bigoted, about being willfully stubborn, about being petty and cruel and hypocritical. His lies, laziness, hypocrisy and lack of morality IS a selling point to them. But for the rest of us, I think that DT serves as a reminder that every single point that conservatives serve about modern lives is a lie, and not to be fooled this time around.

[@nightfall3605]

My friend (that I have now decided to ghost) is MAGA and kept trying to convince me that Trump absolutely loves this country and absolutely is in it for the common man. She refuses to consider his obvious hypocrisy and has a blanket response of, “God’s instruments can come from unlikely places.” I can’t get her to consider actual evidence because she either declares it fake news or just changes the subject. Go through the list of logical fallacies and she will hit every one in an hour’s talk (argument). It’s exhausting and not worth bashing my head against the wall of stupidity.

[@Jake-xe1wu]

Fascists the lot of them willing to allow and do the worst of history on repeat as long as they get their way at least once.

[@00RoxPink]

No, I'm gonna hard disagree with you, most of them are dumb.

[@frevazz3364]

Well said. They like how he makes them feel because inside they feel that way but can’t say it because society frowns on it. Its really hilarious when Trump fans say things like “if he would stick to policy he would win easily”. There is no policy, the only policy is how can Trump make himself money. Unfortunately because Democrats have embraced incrementalism it has open the door wide open to Trumps hubris.

[@Jake-xe1wu]

@EMSpdx they're voting for fascism because they like being told what to do from folks they've deemed above them. There is a reason so many on the right are religious and it's called priming or grooming whichever makes you more comfortable.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

Not doing the job is what results when you don't actually want the job, you just want the validation of having won

[@wcookiv]

You had my like at "brick-brained freaks."

[@brendathompson2288]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paulmurray8731]

I had coffee in my mouth. Thankfully I swallowed it. That was great.

[@lonelydronerfl5184]

Does it seem like we are coming to a fork in the road where we can choose a "Star Trek" future or a "Hunger Games" future?

[@corrinflakes9659]

Basically the Moebius choice, but the latter is the temptation of perpetuity and former was presented as uncertainty. We must face uncertainty by overcoming the conservative urge to self-preserve.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Yep. If Trump gets back in, there is no more US. It ceases to exist as a nation. And 200+ million of us become refugees overnight. We could very well be looking at spending years in refugee camps in other countries. It could take a very long time to resettle all of us.

[@SaraphDarklaw]

Even the Star Trek future went through a dystopia.

[@AlleyTrashBoards]

That is pretty much it. I mean he joked around about having immigrants fight! Like he saw death race and wanted to do that with citizenship. Just crazy.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@AlleyTrashBoards I mean the country and infrastructure would completely collapse within 6 months if he got the absolute power he wants. Start making your asylum plans. We could very well be living in refugee camps in other countries next year, and for several years after.

[@catherinewood948]

You are more articulate than most podcasters.

[@disky01]

No offense but this feels like it's damning with faint praise, haha.

[@julianparsons3027]

One should certainly hope so!

[@Shell-iq6cx]

Steve Shives does meet the bare minimum, yes

[@Lachy314]

To be fair, it’s easier to when you don’t have to talk to someone else and you can edit or script a video. Not taking away from Steve, just sayin

[@bugglemagnum6213]

That bar is in hell

[@AgtPaper665]

The only plan that realistically would lower Healthcare costs for the government and us citizens would be centralized negotiations through national, single payer coverage; but they don't want to talk about that.

[@krishadyn5211]

Taking off the restraints on Medicare to negotiate would save billions. Its not an accident that Republicans who block that also profit off Medicare drug buys. Its basically setting a price control for max profit.

[@nomad634]

They love the power, loathe the responsibility

[@SergeantSniper]

"Laziness is a core conservative value." Hey, I don't want to be anywhere remotely like these people.

[@davileite780]

Hey, at least you were conscientious enough to form an opinion. So... Not as lazy as them.

[@SergeantSniper]

@@davileite780 *TRUE*

[@michaelmeichtry316]

Bizarre: I recently asked my MAGA sister, who hasn't worked a single day in several decades, why she never considers going out to perform a single day's work. Her instantaneous answer was exactly "I have different priorities." In the 1990's the term for these deadbeats was 'slackers.' As Steve mentioned in the video, they are simply a lost cause and just using up the oxygen from the air we breathe.

[@Bonniebluetours2010]

Call her a welfare queen to her face and see how she likes that.

[@AcappellaTidbits]

Yep. There are very few examples of TRULY lazy people be it mentally or physically. Most people are industrious in some way or another or if they're not they have stuff going on like mental distress, lack of opportunity, haven't found their actual purpose in life, etc. Hence why gutting the social safety nets is just ...bad. They want to punish the lazy bogeyman (projection) so badly that they hurt so many people because that bogeyman just doesn't really exist in the general populace.

[@Insightfill]

It's a "color of the skin" call. White person - entrepreneur. Darker skin - three part time jobs isn't enough.

[@michaellane5381]

The real problem is so many hard working jobs have such low salaries to denote they should be "aged out" that instead many people just aim for useless executive positions and end up unable to enter the specialized market and unwilling to go into neccesary labor, why bother working at $20 per hour when you can invest $200k and get more money back, less crap about your frequency of urination, and manage the "job" all your life.

[@sunrey1938]

Bob Schieffer wrote a book about Reagan called “The Acting President’ about how Reagan was an actor who was hired to play a role The puppeteers told him what to say and he delivered the lines brilliantly.

[@TUPRBABE]

A "plan" means you've (at the very least) thought about something. A "concept of a plan" means you're thinking about thinking about something. Which means jack.

[@pkmcburroughs]

1) Hate 2) Fear 3) Ignorance 4) Cruelty 5) Dishonesty 6) Delusion 7) Paranoia

[@nitzabutler913]

You hit the nail on the head. Trump is LAZY. I’m voting blue. This man doesn’t care about anything but himself. Don’t forget his RICH friends. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@Tenchigumi]

Just imagine if you were hiring a new employee, and you received a resume that included all the vapid promises, unsubstantiated boasting, and easily verifiable falsehoods that Trump regularly vomits into public discourse. How would you react? I'd be very angry at whoever screened these resumes.

[@stop_lying_to_me]

I remember when Republican "patriotism" wasn't a daily deluge of contempt and fearmongering.

[@MrZauberelefant]

You were around when Eisenhower was president?!?

[@enlacostaizquierda]

@@MrZauberelefant Even Nixon and Reagan had their moments.. but the GOP as a whole really shifted into full blown crazy as their response to September 11th. With their endless yellow/orange/red alert bull they feasted on fear. Now they can't function without it, they've basically become addicted to it.

[@davidkim3477]

I remember when republicans were patriotic. They are now traitors.

[@f1jones544]

I'm 57 and I don't remember that.

[@jefflacey154]

You must be at least 100 years old then.

[@ootvtoo6677]

even after the debate he said he won even when his own people said no not even close lmao 🤡😆

[@gwillis01]

I remember the weird thing Trump said about two weeks into the Presidency in 2016. "I can't believe how time consuming this job is. I don't want to actually live in this 19th century building. I want to take a helicopter ride each afternoon back to New York and sleep in my fancy New York apartment. Apparently I have no time for that. "

[@ptmnc1]

See also The Onion's 2002 article, "Stereotypes Are A Real Time-Saver".

[@BlueBeetle1939]

One of my favorite donald trump things is he doesn't exercise because he believes you only get so many heartbeats in your life and he doesn't want to waste them

[@Eyclonus]

I like that he's afraid of being poisoned so he only eats a specific and predictable diet

[@LisaFenton-h7f]

ROFLMAO

[@YEs69th420]

@@Eyclonus Is that real? That's so funny if it is.

[@cliftonchurch6039]

I can confirm "Republicans of Trump's ilk" which I like to refer to as "red hats" (to align with historical boogymen like the British Redcoats and The Red Scare) can be aggressively lazy in work ethic as well. I work production with quite a few red hats, and it always seems they half-ass their work more than anyone else, and I'm always cleaning up after their laziness. They will go out of their way to hide responsibilities that they were supposed to take care of so that I find them and am stuck dealing with it. Why can't they be lazy like me, and do the job right the first time so they don't have to worry about doing the job again with an angrier manager later?

[@Gretabpooh]

Sounds like a senior accountant I had to deal with as a bookkeeper. He was a big fan of the "quick and dirty estimate" entry. Of course he wasn't the one who had to reconcil the account and then make the corrections.

[@Jennifer-my5dm]

I used to work with a woman whose husband was a big time consultant to the Republican Party. She was very lazy with no decent work ethic. She was also petty, untrustworthy, and would make up lies about her coworkers, especially me.

[@jaypgn6857]

I love the way these videos end: no out-of-context suggestions to like or follow, and no overused outro's or music. It's just some simple powerful words left lingering in silence. Very impactful.

[@gillianoneill3375]

I agree. I always say "Wow, he's good" at the end, it's how it leaves you. 👍

[@RenataKleinRK]

Well, that’s a tactic KZbinrs use to boost the number of viewers who watch until the very end of the video, which boosts their standing in the mystery algorithm.

[@jaypgn6857]

@@RenataKleinRK I understand and agree, and those techniques are very effective - even on me. But damm. When he makes these kinds of talks, it always hits me hard as the video abruptly ends with nothing added on. I'm left thinking about what he just said.

[@jaysea5939]

I think it's a combo of laziness and magical thinking. As though their racist, bigoted beliefs are actual reality and if everyone just accepted their place in the hierarchy, they'd get that raise, their kids would repect them and have their beliefs, and everyone would (somehow) be happy. *They* don't need to change at all.

[@peterkallend5012]

I've worked with those hard working conservatives. They throw around terms like "book smart" like it's an insult. Not a single one of them stop to think about long term consequences. Common sense should be a common thing, and yet these clowns are the reason the saying "common sense ain't so common" is a thing.

[@Vesperitis]

As someone who was called "lazy" in childhood and then internalized it into adulthood, I agree with Dana. When I was given tasks I saw no point in, when I was surrounded by people whom I didn't care about or wanted to bring me down, I was demotivated and did the bare minimum that would not get me fired or noticed. But then once I had something I cared about, once I was given confidence and agency, I'm now trying not to burn myself out (again) by working too hard. So what does Donald Trump care about? He cares about not losing to a black woman. And he cares about not going to jail. That's it. That's all he cares about. He doesn't care about his family, his legacy, his reputation, his cause, he just cares about his racism and not suffering the consequences of his crimes. That's why he's lazy. Because his priorities are all f**ked up, and he doesn't have a clear mission to focus all his energies.

[@blahblingo7605]

Thank you for capturing that middle area between Steve and Dana's take on laziness vs priorities. The bit about trump-dumpster is spot on.

[@marvinmartin4692]

I live in a deeply conservative area, and I can only count on one hand the number of hard working republicans! And that’s being generous! Oh they’ll whine about how hard they work though! They mostly just sit on there brains and whine!

[@andreah6379]

Stereotypical reichwing voter: a worker who bitches about unions but looks for ways he/she can get disability (which they claim to hate) by falsifying facts. Rws are all just like the ppl they vote for.

[@brett66]

Loooong gone are the days of the pretense of William F. Buckley conservative intellectualism.

[@aaronsarchive82]

I wondered how many crazies actually believed the cats and dogs comment. Apparently enough to put public safety at risk. 🤦‍♂️

[@spongeintheshoe]

And enough to dominate the comments sections for most news videos covering it.

[@YEs69th420]

It happens literally every single time but there's still no real mechanism to tackle the incitement of stochastic violence.

[@andreah6379]

Reichwingers are cultists. They believe anything, any lie as long as someone of their own cult spews it.

[@schrodingersjet1043]

"Concepts of a plan" is like Guardians of the Galaxy 1, when Peter Quill tells the team he has the beginnings of a partial plan.

[@breathnstop]

Trump's priorities are staying out of prison.

[@xquantex]

Very good analysis, gracias. I was thinking in "motives" and then I heard you say "priorities" and yes, both concepts are the same. Motives as whatever moves you, what interests you, what is in it for you. Priorities as degrees of importance. Seeing ourselves as a priority where the others come as second, third and so on, is kind of a healthy selfishness; but seeing ourselves as the only priority and others as simple means to his end, then, that is dysfunctional because society doesn't work like that. Getting what you want even in a violent way, if you must, is the heart of the land of the strongest where the weaker ones are left to die. Pure narcissism.

[@AntonPNym]

I've said from the day he launched his campaign that Trump wants the title of president, not the job of president. I see no reason to say otherwise today; it's become even more obvious as time goes on I think.

[@thehellyousay]

conservation of energy is smart. conservation of thought is not.

[@tee1694]

Interesting ‘concepts of a a plan’.

[@user-wk1mw9nj3i76]

You’ve got it right. It’s so horrifying one has to laugh before crying. I watched the debate so my family didn’t have to. They know part of the deal is helping me recover from the exposure to evil. Keep speaking out for yourself and us, Steve. You do a great job.

[@VeronicaOhwowhiagbese]

Thank you so much, I really love your podcast. You nailed it all, and really appreciate your analysis of current political standing of maga republicans. They are very pathetic people who have nothing for this nation than to decimate this country further to the dungeon. Thank you so much, I really appreciate you.

[@Erasmustherobot]

Reagan got elected and i got to watch everything fall apart and close down and see people get squeezed

[@lynettemiller7912]

The whining is just noxious! I said the same thing about the 2016 transition: he didn't even TRY. All that did was prove to me that (a) he really didn't think he was gonna win; (b) he was just running a campaign because it was something to do; (c) he had no intention of doing any of the stuff he promised; (d) he doesn't give a s*** about making life better for anyone, other than whoever can do something for him; and (e) he had no idea there was actual work involved in being elected to public office, and he has no desire to do any of it.

[@75aces97]

Intellectual laziness, but also lack of intellectual discipline. I dont limit this to avowed conservatives, but human vice boils down to indolence and lack of discipline. Challenging accepted beliefs is hard. Keeping up with new developments is tiring. Accepting stereotypes and outmoded ideas is easy. Parroting someone else's conclusions is easier than critical thinking. The debate was the perfect time to press Trump on health care. He ranted about how bad Obama care was when he ran for president the first time. He had ample opportunity to roll out a new plan and offered nothing. Fwiw Obama's plan was more compromised than i wanted, so i have no problem criticizing it. Unfortunately the GOP has fought tooth and nail against any attempt to deliver suitable public care for 50 years.

[@Gretabpooh]

It totally amazed me to learn that Nixon signed the law that authorized HMOs in 1973.

[@LCTesla]

Mental laziness especially

[@dmman33]

I think that is a very useful distinction

[@artisan002]

Man... Perfectly timed close. That last line just floats.

[@geargeekpdx3566]

When you operate under the protection of the Electoral College, inherited wealth and white priveledge, laziness is merely the required subset of the entitlement you have been gifted to live above everyone else.

[@zUJ7EjVD]

There was a moment, in June 2024, when Microsoft closed the profitable and critically acclaimed game studio Tango Gameworks, upending many lives in the process. Publicly they just explained it with standard corporate deflection before eventually saying to employees that their central team was spread too thin and that's why they had to close down the studios. They burnt money to reduce executive workload. This, this here, is how I think of right-wing privatization. Republicans are lazy, they could figure out a system for public healthcare and put the work in to manage it, or they could take the quick and easy fix of just paying some dude with questionable morals a bunch of money to do the healthcare. They will burn money to save themselves some effort as long as it doesn't come at the expense of their power. If they will treat money with such callous disregard, imagine what they'll do to people.

[@tureytayno3154]

And not to mention: Ensemble Studios,

[@erlandgadde7445]

But those who wrote Project 2025 have certainly not been lazy. Of course Trump never read it. The idea that he could read a 900 pages text is laughable.

[@andreah6379]

But ppl have been reading all of it. We need to.

[@Vyctor353]

I Actually Live In Toledo (Within Ten Miles Of Springfield)...I Have Absolutely No Worry Of Anybody Eating My Cat...In Fact My (Rather Plump) Kitty Kitty Is Sitting In His Window With Right Now With Now Worry Of ALF (Or Anybody Else For That Matter) Showing Up To Eat Him...

[@jumpydashgd4699]

Be careful if RFK Jr. shows up to campaign 💀

[@joes7166]

Toledo to Springfield is about 150 miles unless there is a small village in NW Ohio named Springfield. The one in the news is down by Dayton.

[@Vyctor353]

My Apologies...There Is A Springfield "Township" Within Ten Miles Of Toledo...It Has Been Brought To My Attention That Springfield Ohio Is Not The Same As Springfield "Township"...

[@medusagorgo5146]

I was a little kid when Reagan was in office, even I knew that trickle down economics was a lie. Btw, when he visited his college in Eureka, IL they landed his helicopter on the football field and the fence that separated it from my grandmother’s trailer park was only a regular chain linked fence that would be in a backyard, us kids could clamber over it. My cousins and I had a great time playing on the fence while the secret service kept trying to keep us away. Over and over and over again.

[@kiplingslastcat]

Well ain't this bill a cosmological anomaly... Two weeks from everywhere!

[@coffeebux]

Dang! He's in a tight spot!

[@ArkhamOrderly]

"Is you is or is you ain't my constituents"

[@shvrberi]

Watch your language young fella this is a public market

[@geargeekpdx3566]

We ain't one-at-a-timin here, we're MASS COMMUNICATIN!"

[@TammyPowell-qd2oo]

I hope those Haitian immigrants in Springfield get justice for the abuse they have suffered!!!!!❤Love to the Haitians!❤

[@RoonMian]

As an accompainment to this video I can really recommend the explainer on Dietrich Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity by the channel Sprouts.

[@CuriousCrow-mp4cx]

Bonhoeffer never had a theory of stupidity. He wrote a piece called "Of Folly", in which he said that the folly consuming the ordinary Trump voter is not intellectual but social and psychological, to the extent they are consumed by it. They are under a spell, because their darkest emotions are validated by Trump-like figures. Bonhoeffer argued that given the right circumstances no-one is immune. And he cautioned against looking down upon them as they were suffering a very distinct part of the human condition. You are thinking of the Italian mathematician who described in a little essay for his friends a 4-way descriptive theory of stupidity, which was published after his death. Bonhoeffer thought the cure for this folly was spiritual liberation as a shift in perspective away towards universal values. The Italian mathematician offered no cure. I just read Bonhoeffer's essay again a couple of days ago, and it was the Sprouts video that motivated me to read his essay from the collection “Letters and Papers from Prison: The Enlarged Edition“, Edited by Eberhard Bethge (1997). "Of Folly" is on page 8, and you should read it. I've also read the Italian mathematician's work, and it is more tongue in cheek than anything. And if you research Dietrich Bonhoeffer, you realise why his work is more valuable. As he himself was once gripped by this same folly. He supported Hitler and the Nazi Party, but turned against them once they had shown their intent to control religion in the Reich. He publically spoke out against it, and ended up in a concentration camp, where he would be executed just before the end of the war. So whilst the Sprouts video was an introduction, it isn't correct to describe Bonhoeffer's essay as being about stupidity. It was describing a psychological state created by societal pressures. And if you look at what actually happened in the Weimar Republic, you realise why it was possible that even educated and intellectual people fall victim to people like Hitler and Trump. And why people like them even exist. As for America, that is its biggest hurdle. It has to rediscover a reason to exist which does not exploit human weaknesses, and create the conditions where such folly can take hold, and people like Trump can exploit it's shortcomings and gain power.

[@thetooginator153]

Excellent video! I hadn’t thought about laziness until Steve brought it up, but he’s right. Trump says he’s rich, but he couldn’t hire a team to come up with a healthcare plan of ANY kind? Even if the healthcare plan is terrible - at least it would exist on paper. Trump would have to do virtually nothing except decide if he likes it or not. But that takes too much effort. If Trump is completely broke, that’s a different story. But, assuming he has SOME money, he could ask the Heritage Foundation to create a plan for him, and pay them for their work. Trump could probably get a healthcare plan for FREE from a think tank, and all he would have to do is have it explained to him (with fun pictures).

[@blahblingo7605]

😂😂😂😂 You want him to... _actually pay MONEY_ for _anything?_

[@SynchroScore]

While I think you make a good point here, I think that the two examples you cite have alternative explanations. For the Trump transition team having no plan, it could be argued that nobody actually expected Trump to win. That the entire campaign was a marketing exercise for Trump to attract attention to himself and get a big pile of campaign cash that he could then use to prop up his failing businesses. For the overall lack of policy, I think it can be explained by ideology as much as laziness. A core tenet of modern Conservative thought is"Government is bad, and anything the government does is bad (unless it involves locking up non-white people in this country, or blowing up non-white people in other countries)." Effective and efficient government programs, and policy that genuinely helps large numbers of people, goes against their dogma, and so is ruled out without a second thought.

[@LeoS.B.Rosevillte]

Facts

[@tomdonahoe3539]

In the software development business, that would be called "vaporware."

[@Dan-ud8hz]

Thank you for making this, Conservative laziness has been understated for sooooo long.

[@jtilton5]

My personal opinion on US health care is a short sentence like "Run Spot run." It's called: Medicade for all.

[@captainmalin3541]

The Affordable Care Act was passed on March 23, 2010. The Republican Party has been trying to cancel it since then. It was fully enacted on 1-1-2014. So 10 years in action & 14 years passed. 14 years they have tried to cancel it, but every time asked what their solution is or replacement, they “don’t have one yet, but will get to it”. Fourteen years. After all that time their stable genius says, “I have the concepts of a plan.” I would say that is the pinnacle of laziness.

[@PatrickGreeneFearwriter]

I've always wondered why this didn't come up more often. The willful ignorance, the religious fanaticism, the anti-immigrant stance -- all point to a deep-seated laziness of mind, body and ego. It's easier to stay entrenched in stupidity and blame everybody else than it is to take steps to become a better person.

[@jezkerjamez7110]

For the love of God, just give us a single payer healthcare system!! It works in every other developed nation! Or at the very least a public option!! Come on other nations had this figured out decades ago!!

[@alexhill1323]

"Worf, you are the most honorable and decent man I’ve ever met, and if you’re willing to tolerate men like Gowron, then what hope is there for the Empire?" - Ezri Dax

[@dalewilliams8001]

I've long said that Trump and his MAGA cult, are intellectually, and otherwise, lazy. I've also noticed it in my own Trumper family (the "thinking" part, in their case). Good to hear that you see it also. Anyone else here notice it?

[@xtremegamer5336]

If I told my boss at work I had concepts of a plan I'd be fired.

[@RowenaSnow-px3jg]

Thanks for using the word LAZY to describe this. Not thinking things through, not wrestling w moral dilemmas, feeling entitled without effort, IS lazy.

[@Jakeurb8ty82]

"I don't need to learn about the world or its history and context I can just make my own mind up"