Starfield - Angry Review

[@kosmosyche]

Me playing Morrowind in 2003: Wow, imagine the massive fantastic worlds and imaginative stories Bethesda can create in 20 years, when technology allows them to fully realize their ambitions! This is going to be so awesome! Bethesda in 2023:

[@eugeneskillful8053]

At least they're consistent hahaha

[@DavyDave1313]

And it is awesome - but hey you go after your internet brownie points

[@Vityaz-of-Rus]

@@DavyDave1313 yeah 100% holy shit these people aren’t even real

[@exvex5108]

​​@@DavyDave1313some ppl like turds... Just like you. And its totally ok.

[@MrRickstopher]

@@DavyDave1313huh?

[@bigggmomenttt]

Todd Howard told Microsoft when they acquired Bethesda that the game was ready to go. Microsoft took one look and told him it needed two more years. I SHUDDER to think what hot garbage Howard was ready to serve.

[@ikeduno7973]

Harsh. But fair point.

[@BrooklynBalla]

It’s so infuriating that this clown is in charge.He’s ruined so many games that had huge potential.

[@Dr.Yakub22]

Todd : The modders will fix the game and improve the graphics and add the story. All we need to do is ship it.

[@chrisk3127]

@@Dr.Yakub22 most of the engine level bugs were already fixed in their previous games by modders yet they didn't bother to include those fixes in the game lol

[@Khemith_Demon_Hours]

@@chrisk3127 Snobbery. They don't even have a smart community manager who can tell them what kinds of fixes they did.

[@JeremiasDK]

"...Bethesda's biggest game ever. Yet it somehow feels like the smallest". What an excellent way to describe the feeling of playing Starfield.

[@KevinLopez-x2r]

As a huge Bethesda fan I didn’t even play starfield for more than 3 hours.

[@gringote1783]

Hello Jo. I am an exectutive from Bethesda. I would love to go on vacation with you

[@PeezyPurp]

75 hours in and I had to just put it down… I was playing myself saying that I enjoyed it.

[@Beta_Mixes]

If you want my opinion, "Playing" isn't the correct term for it, it's more of a "drag yourself to interact with it"

[@XXX-XXX-1234]

HOW TO SAVE STARFIELD (well, I have 250hrs of gameplay so hear me out - ONLINE + END-GAME): - (END-GAME) in short game does not have END-GAME gameplay (we need lvl 100+ planets, darkholes with strong gravity only for superior ships, advanced ship builder/parts, more hard/horror encounters, aliens:) - please add some crazy hard challanges + game is too easy on "very hard"; - (ONLINE GAMEPLAY) - add a Quest after the Main Quest to unlock travel to planets where the ONLINE gameplay is possible (wormholes to another universes) - ONLINE space ship fight (when you die your ship needs 5k repair cost), land on planet to meet another players... - (CRAFTING ECONOMY) the whole automated crafting does not have much sense... it is broken and it needs to be revamped - what should I do with 10000 units of an crafted item? - so I propose to have a requirement for some daily item production to support ship maitanance, outpost maitanance :) - (SHIP BUILDER) - more parts and even more customization would be welcome - it is one of the best game parts - it is worth to still improve it, the question is where out ships are stored?... we need on planet hangar/gallery; - (SKILLS) - more shills would be welcome especially for 100+ lvl; - (CREW-MEMBERS) more epic crew members like more robots; - (SPACE IMMERSION) - more on planet effects are needed (storms, winds, rain), we need black-holes (only best ships could traver there to sustain radiation/gravity), magnetars, neuron stards, wormholes etc

[@Mileslandaw]

My BIGGEST complaint with Starfield is there is no comms! Half the shit you have to do, you have to talk to them in person…it’s space! Give me a damn communication device to talk to Joe and then continue!!!

[@mikesci91]

Totally agree I gave up because of all the "fly back for 10 mins just to tell someone you did X" missions

[@BasePuma4007]

Most of the game is going through different loading screens to talk to people.

[@azoniarnl3362]

Communications across the vast distace of space could take literal years tho, it wont be instant.

[@BasePuma4007]

@@azoniarnl3362 If the ships have "grav drives" aka warp drives, then you could send transmitters carrying messages that could be propelled by warp drives to circumvent the speed of light's limitations at interstellar distances.

[@ParesseuxReaper]

@@azoniarnl3362 dog this is a game not to mention you can do this in older space games

[@DustyThePunk]

25 years in planning, 8 years in development, plays and feels like it came out 15 years ago.

[@juanramirez7108]

Sonunderrated comment, to be honest played 130 hrs and went to cyberpunk and felt much better

[@R3in_Ch]

bethesda fanboi will come for you

[@inyourgranmaass3605]

​@@R3in_Chso what let em what the hell they gonna do anyways foam from the finger tips

[@Marcorix2010]

This is what happens when a development cycle is to long you end up being commited to out of date ideas and tech so when you release you are way behind the curve. Development should be 6 years maximum and using forward thinking tech as everything will catch up by release. I feel starfield just lacked any proper management or ambition just more of the same.

[@statixfear]

@@Marcorix2010 Pretty much a similar trajectory to what happened with Star Citizen. Mid-development, they had to change game engines, which likely also became a self inflicted delay of their own doing... not that the game has any hope of becoming an actual full release anytime soon anyway. The only difference is that at least Star Citizen is still being touted as an alpha product right now, whereas Starfield is supposed to be a "full release", with the absurd price tag, to boot. It almost feels like Bethesda anticipated the final product to somewhat be polarizing, hence why Xbox pre-empted any mediocre reception by releasing it in Game Pass on day one.

[@dlaroc]

Calling it "Skyrim in space" is major disrespect to Skyrim (People commenting "skyrim was just as bad" are not good at paying attention.. Skyrim was/is so successful because its a good game even without the mods Just ask all the people who still play vanilla even 12 years later.. I guarantee most wont even remember Starfield in 12 years, especially with ES6 coming way before then XD)

[@GRIZY28]

Skyrim had all of the exact same issues plus more

[@PGX584]

​@@GRIZY28Skyrim you could ignore fast travel all together, it was truly open world, in starfield you can't fly between planets, you must fast travel.

[@GRIZY28]

@payne6853 ok amd every door u went through had a loading screen in skyrim . What's ur point?

[@Floxxoror]

Yeah, but only one. Not like 3+ for one fast travel. And numbers don't lie. Skyrim has more playern right now on steam. @@GRIZY28

[@kennethshipman9958]

@@GRIZY28at least Skyrim is fun with mods

[@Arcian]

Starfield is proof that not even a brand new IP could motivate Bethesda to innovate and try something new.

[@SekiberiusWelkesh]

Worst part is that they de-innovated, the games has pretty much all the same types of mechanics as previous bethesda games done worse. On the technical side of things the game is archaic, like something that'd belong on the PS3, whoever greenlit the idea to make the game a loading screen simulator needs to be fired ASAP, in 2023 that's completely unacceptable and unnecessary game design. On the gameplay side of things, it's a glorified walking fetch quest simulator, this game is so far away from what a game like Skyrim is that it's more like death stranding.

[@GamingDualities]

the game needs to have multiplayer or co op. so it has no lifespan. lack fo open world elements. exploration. lack of communication systems like voice chat. competition... they need to watch the king's avatar animation and get some inspiration how to make complete game@@SekiberiusWelkesh

[@jestersjest]

Remember it just works... ...Why change it lol

[@petpuu]

If it's broken, dont fix it, somebody else probably will. -Toddler Howfart

[@SapphirosCZ]

@@SekiberiusWelkesh Todd wishes it was at least like Death Stranding. Loadfield would need at leas 16 loading screens to cover one DeathStrand quest.

[@emilrogengellschwaner3555]

The drink stealing is almost at south park level ridiculousness

[@Queef_latina]

Mine was a dart. I tried to play darts in the bar but apparently that got me locked in a gulag as well. Bethesda really is a stupid dev.

[@Queef_latina]

@seniorshakingmyhead.2239 that BASTARD!

[@kamdevil]

@@Queef_latina looking at Fallouot series... i dont think Bethesda is a stupid.... this probably got screwed up cuz of Microsoft.

[@heavyartillery-qm5hu]

@@kamdevil Actually the only reason Starfield released in 2023 instead of years earlier is because of Microsoft. Bethesda are stupid

[@ondrekunda]

The fact he took it on purpose and then claimed multiple times it was an "accident" is ridiculous 🤣🤣

[@folkmar00]

Isn't Joe like the only reviewer from the old era of YT where he still do to comedy skits? Bless him for that.

[@eon5323]

And after 10 years the timing is still off 😅 I swear they go on 30 seconds too long every single time

[@frankmalditx]

@@eon5323part of the charm ig 😂😂💀💀😭

[@oberonvortigern4138]

@@eon5323And that’s why we love them 😂

[@kurojima]

@@eon5323 yeah the comedic timing is way off sometimes

[@francisoffilth7953]

No. Nostalgia critic is still at it as well

[@blaketindle4703]

Always remember when you buy a game at launch, you’re paying the most money for the worst version!

[@tylertsmall]

digital deluxe beta testers

[@Monkey1990100]

thats why i always wait a few months after they release to play them because i don't like to run into buggy messes like this or a game that was released earlier this year called jedi survivor.

[@johnswanson1977]

I’ll take the worst version of Spider-Man 2 right now

[@kitaster1546]

@@johnswanson1977 game industry needs so many more games like Spider-Man 2. I was really depressed thinking about that while playing lmao, how most of the games I’ve bought since probably 2018 have been the worst at launch and almost immediately discounted in stores after I bought it

[@MrJackrussell12]

I got it with game pass sooo no complaints

[@NineHundredDollarydoos]

In Fallout 3, Fallout 4 and the Elder Scrolls games, an incredibly important part of the gameplay was 'transitory exploration'. You would have a place on the map that you want to go to, either for a quest objective or just because you wanna see what's there, and on your way there you would pass by or through other interesting locations. You'd either divert your journey to go check them out or make a note to come back to check it out later. I honestly doubt such an experience is even possible in Starfield.

[@donyates7300]

Bingo

[@Kwisgaar]

Exactly. That is the whole point of a Bethesda RPG

[@1Joshbobosh1]

Looking back on Skyrim, the map really wasn't that big. Locations were fairly close together, and you could see across most of the map from high ridges or mountain tops. But there was so much to do, and exploring the map was fun and led into huge dungeons that weren't really a part of the story. I do really like Starfield, but the map feels smaller and less connected despite its scale.

[@MattiaGagliardi]

This! I had this feeling about Starfield, trying to think about what was the best part for me about the Elder Scrolls games and fallout, and thanks to your comment, I remember now! I loved in Oblivion when, while doing a main quest, I saw a ruined castle and thought:"Let's see what happens in there". Sure, sometimes it was just another bandit camp, other times a small adventure but it was still cool to do. This kind of feeling is what is missing in Starflied!

[@albertko1]

You can explore planets but it takes SO MUCH time to get anywhere. The game doesn't tell you that you can use the scanner on unknown points to tell you what category of location it is. But the type of that category is unclear until you actually visit it. The abandoned mining platform is still one of my favorite "discoveries"... It was one of the "what's that in the distance?" Things but you late so much time to get to any points.

[@Bubba_Beer_Gut]

The comment from todd about the nasa astronauts being excited to be on the moon really gets me. Of course, they weren't bored. They were on THE ACTUAL REAL LIFE MOON.

[@Swoleson_Rebel]

And rode a legit exploding rocket to accomplish something humanity itself has never done. Todd is the definition of an educated fool.

[@UnprofessionalGriefer]

Yeah such a moronic thing to say. For example, I could make the shittiest formula 1 or sports game imaginable, and then say the same as Todd did, because real f1 drivers and athletes are never bored when they're racing or competing irl

[@KiNgSaRcAsMoNe]

No they were not, and no I don’t want to argue about it

[@Swoleson_Rebel]

@@KiNgSaRcAsMoNe Oh here we go. The people who think we could fake a moon landing rocket in the 1970's and the soviets wouldnt call it out if given the chance. They could literally see it with telescopes

[@desertfish74]

The real shocker is that this engine will also be used in Elder Scrolls 6, coming out in a few years. It's going to be so behind the times it's absurd.

[@hirudegarns]

the engine starfield is on is literally only used in starfield. so many games out there rocking source engine which came out almost two decades ago but it clearly isn’t the same one games use today.

[@superderrick1234]

@@hirudegarns starfield has the same engine issue of fallout 4, fallout 76 and skyrim, it's the same shitty engine not intended for huge space game regardless of what developer say and you can't compare source engine to this mess.

[@netweed09]

@@hirudegarns You Todd Coward fanboys are just ,, sad.

[@giorgialadashvili4771]

And yet, people will still buy it, because it's Elder Scrolls.

[@netweed09]

@@giorgialadashvili4771 Oh no no, don't muddy that name with this IP. This is Todd Cowards cash-grab piece so he can stock for a future short Space-trip for himself, it's so obvious. _He's_ obsessed with Space maybe (well, more, himself) - but sadly, his 'Space' game wasn't.

[@N7Null]

The most groundbreaking aspect of Starfield is how it makes a game from 16 years ago (Mass Effect) feel like it is still ahead of its time.

[@KanohiVahi]

It is all about passion. Which seems really lacking in Bethesda of today

[@themanwithnoname1839]

Yea i told a friend i just dont trust bethesda no more after 76..... He got super pissy and said well thats on you and im sitting here like look dude just cuz YOU blatantly ignore all their fuck ups dont mean i will ..... The game is average at best ive heard mixed shit on it and honestly my friend is the ONLY one ive heard say its as good as it is........

[@OrbitalCookie]

I loved driving Mako! It was truly groundbreaking! Deploying probe? Oh that was perfect gaming!

[@MusashiW-ec2yn]

it really was, and has been clearly. teams and individuals really do make a huge difference

[@omgkid]

Mass Effect releasing 16 years ago just makes me feel insanely old and I'm 27 lol

[@jacobgarrett1006]

Starfield is another game in the laundry list of proof that 10 hours of tight, well written, and impactful content is always better than 10 hours of that same content in between 990 hours of pointless junk

[@yoshitsune5691]

Baldur's Gate 3 is incredibly long, tho I completely agree on your take. Good combat and compact story is all I need, hell I love cyberpunk after the new update and dlc.

[@Sam-sg1ed]

True

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Except starfield doesnt have 10 hours of well written content....

[@hihihi1q23]

Except people don't play Bethesda for short, linear high-quality stories. They play it for the exploration

[@gabrielchin4161]

​​@@hihihi1q23unfortunately, that sucks ass in starfield.

[@Aveeguides]

Starfield had a budget of $200,000,000. But no one knows where the other $199,000,000 went 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Amb252]

That's bad budgeting

[@Lapeno456]

reminds me of a russian animated movie called Wizards vs children or something, it was so bad apparently one of the people involved twitted about half the budget by the ministry of culture went into vodka lmao

[@meatbicycle2273]

Joe being drafted into an undercover mission because he stole a drink is hilarious.

[@M_M386]

That happens in skyrim too lol

[@duckwithagun2791]

Same happened to me but because I was trying to put a vase back on a desk after knocking it off

[@danielportillo1349]

​@duckwithagun2791 i mean come on like they don't give him review copies for a reason lmao. So what you expect? If the game is long he takes longer.

[@kukuhimanputraraharja8084]

STOP RIGHT THERE!!! DRINK STEALER!!! YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW!!!

[@meatbicycle2273]

​@M_M386 does it?

[@davidbickham7318]

A big issue I had with the game as well is that there was a lack of scale. Like we have these huge multi planet powers yet there’s only like 4 cities that most of the time take less than 5 minutes to walk across

[@TheRedRaven_]

Very true, the cities are lacking in scope and there’s only a few. Something weird though, I just saw a mod that allows you to manually fly from planet to planet by making you go incredibly fast…so it is possible to travel without a loading screen. Why Bethesda didn’t add some sublight speed into the game is so confusing knowing this. That itself would of increased the scale factor…in space at least lol.

[@HunkMine]

It's not about size, it's about detail which it has. He played hundreds of hours already. And I'm talking only about cities.

[@yfz450rider39]

The game is nothing BUT issues.

[@SKD_TRASH_at_Blazblue]

I would rather live in a SHITTY ASS cardboard box very high up in a cold mountain with 2 balloon dolls for companionship than to play this LOUSY ASS of a game called Starfield 😁

[@utah710]

They are an extremely lazy studio filled with people that are about to retire literally

[@eloyevd]

Sipping on someones drink to then be selected for an undercover special forces mission because of your criminal record is like its straight out of a SpongeBob episode😂

[@DougDimmaDingus]

Confess?! Are you outta your mind?! Do you have any idea what they do to people like us? We're not talking about some dumb mail fraud scheme or hijacking here. WE STOLE A DRINK!! And they are gonna lock us up forever!

[@TurbidTG1]

After reading this, the Mermaidman and Barnacle Boy theme played in my head. 😂

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

At this point Bethesda should just start making comedic or satirical games. They can obviously not do serious storytelling anymore.

[@lintlickers]

@@TurbidTG1well we’ll it’s turbid, have you unsubbed from funhaus yet? it’s honestly awful now, there’s no way they’re making enough money to support all those people, they get like 10k views, and the quality is trash.. they barely put Ryan in videos, James is barely in videos, it’s just the weird trans person, Trevor and Jacob in the videos now. and they’re not funny or entertaining. funhaus was one of the best and the funniest channels ever, it’s sad what happened. especially losing Adam and then everything that happened after… might be the biggest and saddest downfall of any KZbin channel in the history of KZbin, I was watching those guys when they were with and inside gaming.

[@urekmazino6800]

​@@amysteriousviewer3772yup they've fallen off in the writing department

[@claystedman6923]

Honestly 6/10 is generous, I'd say its more like a 4. This is coming from someone whos favorite game is Skyrim (even without mods) and loves Bethesda's games from Morrowind to Fallout 4.

[@Elitesolider1023]

I haven't played the game yet, but when I do I have a feeling, I'll probably give it a 7 or an 8 and a 1/2 out of 10 I say that's a bit more fair because giving it a 4 is too harsh. In my opinion, it's not that bad, but yes, nor is it that good It's just slightly above average game Which is pretty much the point Because Bethesda wasn't trying to make their own better open world game in space and Rub it in other developers faces. They just wanted their own space game. Sadly, I just think they could have done better, which is what they should of yeah

[@dereknight861]

Even Joe realized he was being too kind to it in his list videos and updated his score to what you said

[@Sirveaux]

​@@Elitesolider1023 Hasn't even played the game. Already decided on a rating. Not an asshole at all.

[@Elitesolider1023]

@@Sirveaux 🤡

[@sdsdfdu4437]

"when astronauts went to the Moon there was nothing there and they weren't bored" Because that was fucking real life! Being on the surface of the moon in real life, seeing it with your own eyes, is way more exciting than being on a fake virtual planet in a video game

[@bragiodinsen4604]

also im sure they were bored

[@joshuaglass1827]

For real I was saying this exact thing, what a schmuck that guy lol.

[@Relhio]

If the game made it so it would take 20 years to prepare for that moment, be one of the few people in the history of humanity that was allowed to do it, knowing that absolutely anything that could go wrong will have to be fixed by me, then the game would be as exciting as real life if there was some actual hardships, or any cheap tricks if they really are lazy, to get me involved. If taking off and landing would be a real challenge, then I can guarantee that something as mundane as landing on a lifeless rock in space would be exciting. It's just lazy and bad game design all around.

[@LawAbidingScout]

Todd Howard when he realizes that astronauts dont click a fast travel button, wait through a loading screen, then teleport instantly to the moon: 🤯😱

[@gringote1783]

Hello Jo. I am an exectutive from Bethesda. I would love to go on vacation with you

[@lucassatie]

My biggest overall gripe with Starfield is the lack of dynamic exploration. It's essentially nonexistent. One of the truly wondrous parts about The Elder Scrolls or Fallout games is the simple fact that you can look to the horizon, see something interesting, and just _go_ there. And I'd bet most of us would end up getting completely sidetracked in our journey. We'd end up wandering around from interesting thing to interesting thing. Stumbling on random places, peoples, or events. Starfield has basically none of that. There is no journey. No wandering. No getting lost and exploring. The "random" events aren't even surprises because there's a very specific and obvious way to trigger them. Try to remember how awesome it was to just travel around in Red Dead Redemption 2. There were tons of interesting little scenes of everyday life (sometimes horrific as it was) that made the world feel alive. Everything was fluid so you didn't have to worry about loading screens breaking the immersion. You spent so much time searching out these little extras that before you knew it, you were basically clear across the map from where you actually wanted to be and it was hours later than you realized. That's what I had expected from Starfield. I mean, it's a Bethesda game... right? It's basically the cornerstone of their RPGs... right? Apparently not. That formula of awe-inspiring world exploration? Completely absent. And Todd Howard's excuse of "but space is boring, lol"? Get fucking bent. You didn't develop a boring space simulator, you developed Skyrim in space. And failed.

[@stefandinu6389]

Yeah the best feature of their games is missing here wich makes this game mediocre at best.

[@EldenGainz]

Read read 2 is a shit fest and snooze fest. I struggled to stay awake during horse rides. Shit game

[@Some_Guy_87]

Honestly, when seeing the initial reviews and impressions this was THE reason why I didn't even try this game. I was a big fan of the TES series and have monumental gaming memories from these games. All of them were due to the adventure combined with the stunning music. The sense of awe when seeing huge flying monstrosities in the distance for the first time while the magical Caprice is playing; killing my first dragon and then feeling like I drained the whole world of life while standing besides the Skeleton in the middle of the night with Standing Stones pulling my heartstrings...the quests were always mediocre at best, the NPC behavior wonky, the main story so boring I never finished it in a single game. But this sense of adventure and finding something interesting and unique around the next corner - no other game offered this.

[@pepperoni_brewboy]

Well said mate. I am a Bethesda fan and I just can't get into the game. After about just 40 hours I have lost interest in it. It feels empty and like you said with a "lack of dynamic exploration." That is the main reason why even though Fallout 76 got a lot of hate, I really enjoyed it. It had that exploration that you're talking about. Very dissapointed with the game.

[@flyingplantwhale545]

It feels like a bunch of assets thrown into a blender and having AI copy/paste all that stuff around the galaxy, with no actual context and story tying it all together.

[@numbazZify]

"Somehow feels like the smallest Bethesda game" That's actually what I think every time I play Starfield

[@gringote1783]

Hello Jo. I am an exectutive from Bethesda. I would love to go on vacation with you

[@molassesman4066]

Wtf​@@gringote1783

[@oceanside9508]

They should’ve done something like Borderlands 3 did. One solar system with like 5 rich, fully explorable worlds.

[@L4Disillusion]

😂Gearbox is bad too but Borderlands 3 was at least not boring. Story sucked the characters some of them were horrible but it was fun to play. This game looks outdated and boring as hell.

[@valentinvas6454]

They could have kept 990 boring lifeless planets too if there were 8 or 10 that were like a quarter of Fallout 4's map size but no, even the populated planets are just one mediocre city and nothing beyond its borders.

[@ericjorgearnezinochea9679]

The bottleneck is no longer technological. Its creativity.

[@gringote1783]

Hello Jo. I am an exectutive from Bethesda. I would love to go on vacation with you

[@capitcha]

in this case it’s literally both

[@MarkaNgamer]

Has been past 10 years

[@FuckGoogle502]

@@capitcha Well, it's not THE technology, it's THEIR technology that's the problem. When Creation engine came out, it was revolutionary. Now, it's 12 years old and Bethesda is still using most of the base code, much of which itself is from the Gamebryo engine that is now 26 years old.

[@liljay300000]

@@capitcha this game had a budget of 200 mil, BG3 had a budget of 100 mil. It's not a budget issue

[@jcapo1803]

34:18 there was one mission where I had to steal something from someone's office, but I couldn't succeed because he was in the room and I kept getting detected. I searched for a way to maybe get him to leave the room or something, but couldn't find anything. What did I do? I pulled out my gun and shot the item several times until it was in a spot behind a pillar, where I could grab it without being detected. That's stealth in a Bethesda game.

[@MA-go7ee]

Lmao

[@VeganCossack]

10/10

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Yeah....bethesda is dead... Skyrim was the beginning of the end.. Much worse than other elder scrolls games

[@Hyrule409]

@@johnnyflannigan136 I thought Skyrim was great, but it was very rail-road with its quests. The only player choices you really get to choose are which faction to side with in the Civil War questline. I'd point out that you can be the head honcho of any faction, but there's no point since you'll always be relegated to errand boy (which is a Bethesda writing problem in general), on TOP of being the leader of literally every faction in one playthrough. It really takes the gravity of such a position away. Like almost all RPGs, Bethesda games are at their best if you just head-canon what you want and completely ignore the writing (not including New Vegas). I love interacting with individual characters, and the environments are top notch, but damn if the quest writing isn't complete dogshit.

[@letir7561]

Skyrim's quests are massive downgrade compared to Oblivion.

[@something1600]

The procedurally generated quests were the worst part of Skyrim, so they made an entire game based off them.

[@gringote1783]

Hello Jo. I am an exectutive from Bethesda. I would love to go on vacation with you

[@courier6960]

They were also the best part of fallout 4 too! Everybody definitely LOVED Preston Garvey as a character and how he would ceaselessly bombard the player with radiant quests without even being asked!

[@0potion]

​@@courier6960There wasn't a single play through where I actually took him along as a companion because you were just randomly given me a quest while I was out shooting shit.

[@patrickiamonfire965]

@@courier6960funny thing is that if you take care of all of your existing settlements he will not bombard you with quest. I found that out with my first play through. Kept pestering him hoping to get a quest to level up only for him to act like a regular companion.

[@cyberius14]

Thats not what procedurally generated means 😂 that's called "radiant quests" as in ones that never end

[@Ryzard]

Starfield made people realize how impressive no man's sky actually was, even at launch. Smooth transitions, no loading, free reign to go ANYWHERE whenever you wanted, etc. The broken, hated game at launch was already better at exploration than starfield, from a studio known for their exploration.

[@iamoctonate]

And now it's actually good

[@xbigcalx]

Facts NMS with a hotas is fkn phenomenal

[@Ryzard]

@@xbigcalx I have GOT to try out a hotas on NMS/Star Citizen man...

[@100500daniel]

Well to be fair, starfield has actual story and quests whereas no man's sky is depleted of anything. There's no shit to do other than walk around.

[@Ryzard]

@@100500daniel that's so far from true at this point, man. They've been dropping entire alt universe quest lines with big rewards, galaxy spanning quests to grow alien eggs, even years ago I distinctly recall having some NPC companion quests with genuine consequence for their story depending on your decisionmaking. And NMS keeps adding more. So is it an RPG like starfield? No. But it definitely has stuff to do now, and I'm not anywhere near caught up to modern NMS either. Besides that, I've heard a LOT of critique about starfield's quest design and story as well. Mainly that it's just walking between places again and again, which is at best the same as no man's sky, but no man's sky has better traversal with the ability to land, to have huge freighters, bases, land, sea, and air vehicles, etc. and full multiplayer, online co-op missions, etc.

[@bellissimo4520]

OJ's NPC impersonation was 100% convincing. I could barely tell if it was him or if they just used game footage...

[@Chimchimchu]

Hello Traveler, How can I help you today? (However, just like in CSI : Law and Order I can not stop working my New York laboring job to give a police interview about a murder. The boss is watching.)

[@Lycosa]

"This just isn't gonna cut it anymore. This is the last time they can put out some bullshit like this." -Well said.

[@SimonRobeyns]

Thats what people have been saying for 10 years and they still buy their stupid crap. Jokes on you guys for buying this trash and funding their next piece of crap game

[@Beta_Mixes]

This should be done in Skyrim, not Starfield Skyrim was already a supreme lackluster in comparison with other Bethesda games and other games from that time as well

[@jamesl.]

​@Beta_Mixes eh?

[@FuckGoogle502]

@@Beta_Mixes This, this, a thousand times this. The graphics were a step up (mostly in the particulates in effects, to my eye), the UI was a bit better (but still got immediately replaced by skyui) and the addition of sprint was wonderful. Other than that, it was so dumbed down compared to Oblivion, which itself was prettied up and dumbed down from Morrowind. Hell, M'aiq the Liar even mentions it in Oblivion, so it's painfully obvious that Bethesda knows.

[@WafflezDay]

Bethesda: Hold my beer

[@megamax898]

We need someone like you. Somebody who is a real go getter. Impulsive enough to drink a random drink sitting on the table.

[@volcomseco]

its gold

[@fatpotato190]

The bane of all h2O drinkers the galaxy over

[@lapatabelluda2240]

You a os5 owner I can tell lol

[@Nion8six]

@@lapatabelluda2240 keep trying 👏

[@artemgleba7630]

Missed an opportunity for “I DRINK IT UP!” :(

[@chrisa8863]

They made Skyrim without the idea that modders will eventually experiment with the game and it turned out good. They made Starfield with the idea in the back of their head that modders will save the game eventually and it turned out so bad, that modders went back to Skyrim. Cant make this up

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

One of my biggest frustrations is the UI navigation and fast traveling system, It was unnecessarily confusing

[@sspacegghost]

it took me 200hours to get the controller menu right. trying to jump to a planet...took that long to get muscle memory right. trouble was the game was literally only three things - with lots of well made well designed little mini games. after 290hours I still cant tell you how to get from the starport, to the commercial area, to the residential area, to the lodge. have no idea which way to turn or run. i get how much better not having a map is (vanilla wow was the same) but a city map would have helped... no bosses meant once you got a good gun. it was boring.

[@ArielCleirigh]

According Colteastwood Npcs are the best so real the same level at red dead 2

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

@@ArielCleirigh People are allowed their own opinion and I didn't mention npcs

[@zondor8123]

Todd the liar Howard

[@combatwombat2134]

​@@ArielCleirighsarcasm? Because RDR2's NPCs are dog-wank. 😂

[@Richard-dz4pm]

One of the worst experiences I had in Starfield was going to Neon. I was getting hyped by all the characters telling me how terrible Neon was and how dangerous. I get their and worst aspect I found was poor NPCs in an area that's considered the worst area were mugging and robby is daily life to these people and they were talking about stock options... never got mugged or attacked, just found some NPCs talking about what stock options they should do....

[@claytonfrag]

hahhaha, thats hilarious.

[@def-po8tu]

Imo the npcs are so lifeless. I find it hard to immerse myself in starfield. I wanna like it so badly but I'm constantly playing something else I just can't get hooked for some reason. I loved the fallout and elder scrolls games. I'm still gonna give it a chance but something is missing and I can't quite put my finger on it

[@definer0]

Maybe it’s some commentary on stocks being broad day robbery 😅

[@tukkek]

Current-day american game studio's idea of "dangerous neighborhood". 100% closeted and out-of-touch with reality.

[@paulw5039]

It's like a game made for religious children. Everything is so watered down and 'safe' - the quests, the NPCs, the dialogue, the exploration, the environments (Neon 'nightclubs' LOL), etc. I do wonder if Bethesda now makes games for people who don't play games.

[@glens18account]

'over 1000 planets and less than 10% have any compelling content' is a perfect statement about the exploration of this game.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

That's still 100 planets with compelling content.

[@glens18account]

@@Dennis-nc3vw less than 10% doesn't mean 10%. I reckon there are only, at most, 20 planets worth more than an hour landing on.

[@Floxxoror]

make it 3 + 2 space stations. @@glens18account

[@F1jones]

@@glens18account that's twenty hours of gameplay before you even have about anything else to whine about.

[@glens18account]

@@F1jones so you enjoyed that inventory management did you?

[@88Jakeyboy]

The going undercover and risking life for stealing a drink part was pure gold! Thanks for the laugh

[@MrMichealHouse]

After a full playthrough of the game, the best thing I can say is I would be very upset if I had actually paid for it.

[@Booty_WarriorGaming]

How much does it cost?

[@MrMichealHouse]

@@Booty_WarriorGaming Free ninety-nine.

[@Xapheion101]

​@@Booty_WarriorGaming £70, but if you've got game pass it's free 😂. I've got game pass and I still felt ripped of playing starfield.

[@MariusTheUnyielding]

@@Booty_WarriorGaming try google. You're already half-way there.

[@moonlightrobbery]

Thats why I always take a look at playthroughs before I buy a game. It's saved me from plenty of ill purchases.

[@JonVaz28]

Joe, I love your channel. For the love of god, run background checks on the people that apply for the vacation thing.

[@bldontmatter5319]

Guarantee some angry person will try assаssinating him for trashing their favorite Madden LOL

[@AndresD.deLeon]

What?

[@wuzittooya]

Absolutely…

[@Minnevan]

partying and gaming with joe would be awesome

[@Malentar]

Or they could be some kind of undercover drink stealer

[@StateBlaze1989]

Never thought I'd see the day when launch day No Man's Sky turned out to be more immersive than a Bethesda game.

[@seifer447]

That is savage. Also true. Still a terribly boring game at launch, but it's improved substantially.

[@RidoDrago]

​@@seifer447 the same boringness Starfield has tbh. NMS at launch had more to do than Starfield now a year later. And please dont count picking trash up as a mechanic because NMS has more types of minerals to mine than the different trash you can pick up in Starfield...

[@danjjjatest]

​@@RidoDrago "NMS at launch had more to do than Starfield now" Stop capping. NMS didnt even have combat at launch and still doesnt have voice acting, skill trees or ship building now. You PS ponies dont even play NMS so quit gassing it up all the sudden cos Starfield dont exist on dusty playstation.

[@RidoDrago]

@@danjjjatest why so personal and hurt, son? I own a pc with a 4070 super and 4tb nvme and 128gb ram so trust me when i say im probably a bigger gamer than you are for investing probably quite alot more money in my pc than you did. Now, yours might be better and more expensive but, noone is being a teen here and says you dont have one, like you were a teen for thinking im only a PS guy... Now that i too have thrown some trash back at you, lets get back to the topic with reasoning and without being hurt by the opinion of someone else... NMS doesnt sell itself as an RPG so saying it doesnt even have a skill tree is like saying that a horse doesnt have a seat so you cant ride it. Noone sold that as a car, you bought it as a horse. Let me break you with the next logical thing; lets say we both start our PC's and i boot NMS up while you boot Starfield up and we both start to play. After lets say 4 hours, i would have played the game for about 3 hours and 30 minutes while losing 30 mins on loading screens. You on the other hand, have probably only played 2 hours and looked he other 2 hrs at a loading screen. You see, ive done more in NMS by the time you did. Dont get me wrong, my pc's loading screens take about 5 so its so fast it shouldnt bother me but it does bother me, for a game that came out in 2024 and where theyve had an older game called Skyrim from a decade ago that you can do more with than with Starfield. And lets say you dont start any loading screens, and we both play for an hour. In that time, ive walked into my ship, ive flown it in the air and space, mined some minerals in space and landed back on a different planet WITHOUT any loading screens. Your gameplay would look like this; open the map to fast travel to your ship, watch your character get in his seat with a mini dynamic loading screen, then your ship starts to take off in a dynamic loading screen, then your screen goes to a loading screen, then you land with a dynamic loading screen, you get off your ship with a loading screen. Cant make a sentence about Starfield's gameplay without mentioning a loading screen.... By that time, ive probably build a small settlement in NMS while you just got out of your ship (exaggerating to make my point). Also, thank you for pointing out the miserable launch of NMS so i can compare the companies too; NMS was an indie studio with maybe 50 ppl max working on NMS before its release. Its their first 'big title' if you dont count their other 3$ dollar trash games. BGS is a bilion dolar company with years of experience AND already a game series they had that defined the sandbox and RPG genres called the Elder Scrolls. How can you create a game thats not half the game youve created a decade ago? I hope you wont bark at anyone anymore for having a different opinion but rather sit with that person to reason and learn why he has a different opinion. Like, my opinon is that i wish you lots of fun watching loading screens and your opinion was, as you tried to state in your comment, is for me to enjoy my PS (which i probably boot up only twice a year for games like Forbidden Horizon and God of War series while also playing those games on my pc but with mods but cant wait for them to release on the pc. Let me get back to my 3k mods Skyrim modlist :-D enjoy life!!

[@devinloew7681]

Todd casually relating a literal out of world very unique and rare human experience that is landing on the moon to visiting a planet in his game is ludicrous, yet so him

[@WafflezDay]

The Bethesda PR team is also using this argument while responding to negative reviews about the game. It seems they forget that BEING ON THE MOON IN REAL LIFE ISN'T BORING.

[@devinloew7681]

@@WafflezDay It'd be the highlight of any person's life

[@ggoddkkiller1342]

Todd the clown...

[@Korra228]

That is insane cope LMAO. I can't believe they actually excused their boring game by saying "but IRL it's fun!"

[@jaythomas468]

@@Korra228 It’s INSANELY out-of-touch for them to use this false equivalency. Like my 6-year-old niece loves playing on the swings at the park but if I handed her a video game where you did that, how quickly did you think it would be that she would get bored?

[@dedstring]

Could never thank Joe and the team enough for the years and years of enjoyment ive gotten out of this show.

[@KCB336]

literally, thank you Joe and the crew for everything you do for us

[@Lucky-sh1dm]

@@KCB336nah fr outta all of KZbin he genuinely might be one of the only OG’s to not switch up and just be himself along w his boys. This channel is a triumphant success story in this creepy day and age

[@TweeterAndTheMunkyMan]

It's always been a channel for gamers and not just for the games that we play.

[@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl]

Same

[@dedstring]

Since people are actually reading this I wanna reiterate dont buy starfield its sh1t. Play No mans Sky or Cyberpunk instead youll enjoy it much more.

[@joshtauber]

The use of ai for the Todd Howard segments is hysterical. One of the funniest angry reviews in a while.

[@fepethepenguin8287]

Thats god Howard to you, mortal

[@zuala27]

when i heard it i was confused for a second , i was like something is not right.

[@NSXtacy-]

Its from a video called "Honest Conference" and is very much worth watching the entire thing!

[@monged4life442]

thank you, was wondering this all through the video!@@NSXtacy-

[@larzkruber822]

Todd: "something´s wrong with the game and i can´t quite put my finger on it"

[@acrock21]

forcing players to (slow) wait in trader shops for 48 hours is so that players can say. " i played starfield and it took me 150 hours to beat it" its like diluting the experience. its like adding water to gasoline. its just like how more and more movies are being filmed in the dark because its cheaper and easier to do.

[@nathanniesche6380]

Diablo 4 did the exact same thing. Maybe Microsoft seems to think that people are stupid enough to ignore review scores and videos and instead will be drawn to the game because it takes an average of 150 hours to finish the game.

[@spr1ngcactu5]

Starfield is like that last minute high school project you stayed up all night doing when you had months to work on it

[@RagingUtai]

after 160 hrs, i agree

[@SoulG03]

As much as I'm enjoying the game, 150hrs in, I have to agree. Hell, the main quest wasn't even the best quest. lol.

[@shqiperia60]

@@RagingUtaiyou fucking wasted 160 hours in a garbage?

[@IGOBYTHENAMELOVE]

More like that volcano project your excited for then when you actually begin you just want to finish because it’s not what you dreamed

[@bradleymoore2797]

But I got A's for that anyway.

[@testpig]

so i gotta say it.. the pacing for this review is FAR better than any review you have done before. the timing of the jokes were not overdone. good job.

[@mistermistermr732]

ehhh still could be better with the jokes but I agree overall. Great review

[@blakehoule6698]

@@mistermistermr732ehh

[@luckymark571]

This review is better than Midfield

[@paranidherc]

Yeah, looks like he decided to put some effort into this one. Haven't seen that in a long time XD

[@bigbobrossa8524]

This guy 🙄🤣

[@SiriuslyKrazee]

This is the most ethical use of AI...I love hearing Todd Howard speak the truth about his own games in Joe and crew's videos

[@ihateallthethings2683]

That was the first time I saw that clip and was dying laughing 😂

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Soon we will be able to rent a apology of totally real Todd Howard ourselves

[@r.e.z9428]

I couldn’t tell the difference honestly.

[@d34ddud3]

@@r.e.z9428 I only noticed initially when the words were COMPLETELY out of sync with his mouth.

[@JamesJohnson-tr1gu]

I was rolling when that part came up lol😂😂

[@ZenEmu01]

I think Joe said it well. About 10 hours into the game I felt like I was doing a job, not playing a game.

[@L4Disillusion]

So destiny 2 😂😂😂😂

[@Despond]

6/10 was extremely generous of you TBH. This company needs to evolve their gameplay/systems and work on quality once more.

[@freespeech3817]

Why Bugthesta would work on quality when they can release skyrim again, fanboys gonna buy it again, with that money they gonna try to release something new again and 16x the detail is easly turned into 16x the money for Todd to get new car or something. They don`t even bother to fix their games since fanboys gonna do it for free for them.

[@DavyDave1313]

@@freespeech3817 brother, your brain firing neurons is like a beehive releasing bees - just a gooey mess of angry haha. Compose yourself

[@freespeech3817]

@@DavyDave1313 What do you find so angry about my comment? Or you just claiming things to feel better with yourself after I said truth about the sorry state Bugthesda studio is in? If you want to engage in conversation then learn some respect and talk about the topic instead of this poor attempt at gaslighting me"haha."

[@Rihardololz]

StarSlop enjoyers at finest.

[@jasonroberts8416]

It's actually good Joe took his time with this one, So many got caught up in the hype but then after the dust settled... Yea it's a solid 6 and I agree 100% with his criticisms.

[@nikolaisthirdeye1913]

So basically Bethesda spent 2 decades and 415 million bucks to remind everyone that obsidian is making a sequel to The Outer Worlds.

[@asifmetal666]

I’m worried about The Outer World 2 now. Somehow if it’s a Console exclusive for Xbox n not releasing on PS then u know u have a turd in the bag. Xbox only making exclusive to those games which r broken turd. Games r better that’s r multiplat just look at there games. Sea of trash, Redfall, Starfield etc r all shit

[@otakuConn]

@@asifmetal666is there something wrong with just saying are?

[@MatijaDrame95]

But the Outer Worlds was small, boring, bland, uninspired, etc. ...

[@RazorsharpLT]

The issue with games is not.... that they're not releasing on PS. Honestly i think it would be worse in this case, because they would have to sink even more money into porting it on THAT artchtecture. @@asifmetal666

[@RazorsharpLT]

Also what? "Exclusive games are trash"? Are you 12? Ever heard of the Halo II and III? Breath of the wild? @@asifmetal666

[@TheOnePistol]

My excitement for Elder Scrolls 6 died swiftly.

[@xbigcalx]

Hoist the black flag mate! Codex/Repak ftw

[@pilovwithketchup]

its even worse now since they charge 7 bucks for a bounty hunter quest

[@hoodiepen]

Joe coming across the Crimson Fleet missions by sipping a stolen drink is the most Angry Joe thing that could happen to Joe

[@DamianSheesh]

Which buried another annoying flaw. You can't just eat or drink stuff you find. First you have to bury it in your inventory and then go scrounging for it to consume it for that sweet sweet 3 health. Add it to the pile of under baked crap that is this game

[@MrJbedo]

​@@DamianSheeshyup there's so many consumables the fact you just can't hit a button to consume is just dumb.

[@ISometimesAgree]

@@MrJbedo Even more dumb is the food put into the same menu as meds, now you have to very carefully consume food at a slow speed to heal because you might accidentally take some random medication or drug and waste it.

[@MrMattaiusify]

No way bro. U gotta use moar space diesel to fly back

[@gagnon39]

I remember in an interview after Oblivion Todd Howard said something that always stuck with me. He said that they (Bethesda Game Studios) created games that they wanted to play, and they hoped others would like them as well. I believe it's safe to say they've entirely gotten away from this formula. Todd Howard has become Peter Molyneux, making huge, grandiose promises and completely underdelivering. It's a shame because BGS has always been my favorite game studio. I've always looked forward for whatever they're doing next. After Skyrim I was stoked about Fallout 4. And although it's wasn't perfect, I loved Fallout 4. And then I was somewhat excited, but skeptical about Fallout 76, and as we know it fell flat. But I always knew they were developing a space game next, and I had high expectations. While I agree with Joe that it's not a, "bad," game, I just don't expect mediocrity from BGS. But let's face it, that's all they've given us for almost a decade now. It's sad to me that for the first time ever, I'm not super excited about the, "next game," because the next one is the one we've all waited for for a long time. The Creation Engine is so dated, its just hard to deal with after playing games like the Witcher or Red Dead Redemption 2. The zoomed in camera where the the NPC's stare straight at you the whole time has to go. I found it ironic that Joe was talking about the NPC's facing the wrong direction, because my complaint has been that they stare right at you during the entire conversation. That's not how people talk. They move around, they look down, they look to the side, etc., and they also often do things while they're talking to you. The dialogue seems so overly robotic. I am just not confident that BGS can make a 180 from all of this for TES VI. I think it will, "feel," exactly like Starfield in regards to it's mechanics and that's just sad.

[@SUPERMA5TER]

Great take. I no longer hold any hype for TES VI after watching Fallout 76 and Starfield flop. It's also been confirmed VI will have microtransactions (for cosmetics), which is a huge immersion-breaker for me in an RPG game. I want to collect in an RPG, not trade in my real world dollars to buy things. People are saying Starfield would have been great 10-15 years ago but we had Fallout 3 & 4, Oblivion, and Skyrim during that time. Try more like 20-25 years ago...

[@gormealbortrude5841]

Todd knows more about human interaction than you do pal because he invented it.

[@MrLightstudios]

I feel exactly the same.

[@rdreeves2332]

ES6 is going to suck.

[@hozza9901]

Yeh we liked them over 10 years ago. Fallout 4 was garbage and that was the red flag.

[@bbuny10]

I know Joe is the face but I appreciate the whole team, especially with the skits you guys are doing. The Gollum one in particular was hilarious

[@joe579003]

I feel like "Drink Sippin' Joe" is one of the best skits they've had for a long time.

[@smitmastaflex]

I was happy Gollum eyes showed up in the vid

[@Xerou]

@@joe579003 I love that skit "Gimme your drinks, Imma sip them, bitch!"

[@KanohiVahi]

@@joe579003 It is funny that it's almost like the worse the game, the better the skits that come out of it are hahah. But it makes sense and I'm not taking any credit away from Angry Joe about how good these skits are

[@richardbarrett4537]

The worst part about this is that elder scrolls 6 is next. This is not good news

[@FinalFaith]

Honestly I thought Starfield was going to be 3 planets with extremely different factions and areas, which would have been awesome. When I heard there was going to be like a thousand I was like “Uh oh.”

[@F1jones]

Now suddenly everyone wants Outer Worlds, the game they complained wasn't enough like a Bethesda game... lmao

[@barbzforever5712]

@@F1jonesI see you sitting here commenting on every single comment and I find it laughable. You are arguing for a game that is going to die out. You may have had a good time playing the game but the masses didn’t. Genuinely this game felt like something that could have been released between 2015-2019. As someone that’s played almost 100 hours into the game and finished it into New game+ it lacks character. It is fun to fly around and explore and build your ship, but after that there isn’t a terrible amount of content, not to mention how underwhelming the “Abilities” are. The skill tree is an utter mess, locking basic mechanics like sliding behind multiple level walls. I genuinely think this game lacked where so many other franchises have succeeded. They are a giant company, not a indie start up. So when a game comes out and is incredibly underwhelming compared to how it was hyped is disappointing. And people are allowed to have that opinion. But if you used the energy you’ve exerted commenting on everyone’s comments, maybe you’d understand that your opinion doesn’t rival anyone else’s. Because everyone’s opinion is valid.

[@barbzforever5712]

@@F1jonesalso, new game plus completely destroys everything that the game has going. Destroying all of the original lore that you learn, all your weapons you work to get and find, relationships with companions who will no longer be interesting, and leaving you with a ship that is mediocre and with underwhelming powers. Everything that people liked about Bethesda is destroyed by new game+ The lore, the companions, the want to collect things or sell stuff. Even in the big side quests they make no difference in game. And one of the biggest side missions, which is when you join the crimson fleet or side with Sysdef, does nothing but break your game if you side with the crimson fleet. Almost every planet with exploration into a building is filled with crimson fleet which will no longer attack you. Especially just letting you walk through the whole level without having to bat an eye. This mission is probably most comparable to the Skyrim faction quest line between The Empire and Ulfric storm cloak. But at least in Skyrim cities and major villages would have different guards take over conquered cities. In Starfield the quest line just dies out, and all your left with is bounty missions. The point is, if they can’t produce content better than what was made 12 years ago, what is the point of playing?

[@F1jones]

@@barbzforever5712 I find it laughable that you don't understand what a conversation is. I'm having one. You know, as in posting on what's called "social media" versus a diary if you don't prefer the interaction. If you don't like it, find a different comment thread where I don't exist of which there are plenty. But that's not nearly as laughable as someone who spent 100+ on the game, including new game+, but who now wants to whine about how it doesn't meet the standards you set? And sorry, I can't think of too many games that are dated but which released all the way back in ancient times like 2019. Actually, opinions are worthless if they can't be backed up and/or are illogical. I.e., complaining that it's not as good as two other candidates for either worst game of the year (Andromeda) or one of the most forgettable space "RPGs" in recent years and which people negatively compared to Bethesda games on release (Outer Worlds) isn't a good argument. Do you think it is? Do you think those games are better? Because that's the argument being made by the OP, not all the features you're not happy with. Try to keep up. Now you can go yell at the clouds some more about the game you burned four entire days of your life playing all the way through but which sucked so much it's like playing a game from 2012 (but I thought it was 2015-2019? Which is it?) I'm not sure that's something I'd want to admit, frankly. Pretty hilarious.

[@barbzforever5712]

@@F1jones again, you argued none of my points. You made fun of me and that’s about it. I played the game through to see if at some point the game would revive itself and uphold the company’s standards. Bethesda is a huge gaming studio, and has had absolute gems years ago. Of course I’m gonna complain when the game is half as interesting as something that was produced 5-10 years ago. You are CLEARLY the only one NOT having a conversation since you think your opinion rules over all. You are condescending and wrong. And you wrote me a book because you disagree😊 I appreciate the two brain cells in your head working so hard to produce more than one coherent sentence. But compared to their other releases this is dog water of a game.

[@DvRnce]

The criminalization of drink drinking had me dying in laughter

[@Secret_Takodachi]

"I'll sip your drink, I'LL SIP IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!"

[@zetta8277]

That's unsanitary, there could be like spit in there...gross.

[@williamwillaims]

I know right! I didn't get it when they opened with that skit, then laughed my ass off when revealed 😂😂

[@kaedesan111]

The new ‘I accidentally picked up the wooden bowl’ scenario 😂

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

One thing that really bugged me about exploration was that the game never seems to account for the difference between colonized spaces and uncolonized spaces. It seems no matter where you land on a planet or what the lore is, there's always some kind of human made structure within viewing distance. This is even true near those temples that no one is supposed to have ever laid eyes on before Constellation. Also, no matter where you explore, Bethesda seems to have this odd habit of strewing dead bodies all over the place for no apparent reason, like every planet is some kind of super dangerous frontier where people can't even be bothered to bring back their dead for a proper burial. This is something mods could probably fix easily.

[@Floxxoror]

And no planet that is like....good for more than 3 farmer families. With like villages or sth. No! Better go to another planet nearby, that has like -100°C and a toxic atmosphere. But it's not so damn overcrowded. lmao

[@RainmakerXBooty]

this, this right here. I enjoy this game but why is there humans on every rock in the galaxy? And the temples having structures within walking distance is WTF

[@jamesjoros1853]

I have this same feeling about no man’s sky

[@williamadderley2831]

I’ve never before been so concerned for the quality of ES 6 🤣

[@FishoD]

I swear the night club dancing has the exact same energy as all of Bethesda games. You can be in the middle of an epic quest and yet everyone feels so bored like they're sniffing valium 24/7...

[@Ioganstone]

Dangit who left vault 112 open

[@ronaldp7573]

This review is far more entertaining than the actual game.

[@thomasfalcon6350]

It''ll be a classic in the future, it's so nice to see Joe still making quality reviews in 2023.

[@naalir6120]

Mad cuz bad :D this game is goty

[@Luhiner]

​@@naalir6120 take your meds buddy

[@WhitePhosphor7]

"mad cuz bad" its the easiest game ever created, the difficulty is for children. go back to playing your kids game@@naalir6120

[@garbearfar1394]

@@Luhiner he smoking that copium he needs to stop taking his meds 😂

[@bellissimo4520]

Becoming a criminal who gets hired for some dangerous undercover mission, just because you accidentally drank someone elses drink in a bar - that is hilarious, and beyond stupid! Well done, Bethesda!

[@jarrodedson5441]

​@@matthewcarter9790 u picked up the cup and became a criminal?

[@bellissimo4520]

@@jarrodedson5441 Angry Joe did. Watch the video.

[@raptorprimal1077]

"I want dresses dammit" Agreed. Oddly on cyberpunk i have ALOT of fun dressing up my female v and it's not in any naughty way, legit must feel like what dolls are like to children. Seeing my futuristic girlboss kick ass in all kinds of dresses is unironically really fun and in starfield or a space game in general, dresses could have WILD designs. From the more traditional dress to maybe crazy space ones like imagine a dress where the material is nasa suits all white orange and futuristic or a dress made of moon rock

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

Cybperunk clothing system is also great for male players. I'm currently doing a robocop tribute playthrough and there are so many futuristic face shields and robot-looking cyberwares. I also did an 80's action movie tribute as well as james bond and even a genghis khan one. Cyberpunk has so much character flexibility.

[@Azuria969]

that game is absolute trash lol

[@techno_otaku]

@@Azuria969hey to each their own, a game's fun to the eye of the beholder

[@Azuria969]

@@techno_otaku kicking an empty can can be fun to with friends, I would still not actively seek out such activity

[@odach2034]

@@Azuria969 Must still be stuck in 2020

[@Daniel__Nobre]

AAA game development is really going backwards. And players are definitely part of the reason why, given how we keep sending our money their way, thus motivating that.

[@Jezza_One]

Strategy games went through this devolution decades ago as the computer AI got worse and worse. Just look at the civilization series.

[@kaydee66781]

ESPECIALLY the Bethesda fans. They can protest and get mad when a company does something scummy. But when Bethesda does it, nobody wants to say anything.

[@WafflezDay]

@@kaydee66781 Bethesda fans LOVE all the bugs that inevitably come with their games. Bethesda knows their fans will fix their games for them, too.

[@cosmonauthal7651]

I know they just got bought out but Bethesda has like 100-150 employees. Not excusing them but it doesn’t take a massive studio to fuck you over either.

[@Xithar_tri]

30:35 "This is Bethesda's biggest game ever, yet it somehow feels like the smallest" That does fit it perfect. I played through it till New Game +++ and played the quests siding with every faction and tryed out the different options in quests. But still almost everything was the same, the only thing which changed was which major faction got hostile and the story told when ascending in Unity. The worst part imho are the 1:1 reused space stations etc in various locations.. Really? From the guys who made Skyrim, which did randomize every small dungeon? Still it was fun, especially the first playthrough. But the replay potential is now for me completely gone, because at this point I already did erverything i could. Time I played: 260.4h. I played around 750 -1k hours of Fallout 3, NV and 4. Skyrim was even around 1k hours due to the enhanced edition.

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

Bethesda is not the studio you thought it was 15 years ago. Simple as. It has died since a long time ago.

[@bartzed4305]

can't believe nobody in Bethesda thought about space buggies or rovers...

[@UncomfortableShoes]

I can’t believe they didn’t think that any of these factions wouldn’t have at least 10-15 cities across the galaxy. Instead each one had like 1 city smaller than the campus of a major university. Fantastic.

[@valentinvas6454]

In my opinion they either thought of it but then realized they can waste more of your time if you are forced to walk everywhere. Or B their ancient ass engine can't the character moving 3 times faster than the sprinting speed.

[@Rob712]

They probably did but they don't have the skills to implement it. Bethesda is the most overrated developer ever. Their games are literally stuck in 2007.

[@TheParagonIsDead]

Buggies are added this week.

[@alastarify]

Man this was one of the best Angry Reviews in a long time, and I haven't even finished it yet.

[@ihateallthethings2683]

For reals been a fan of this channel for a long time and this is definitely an instant classic for the boys

[@britishdude101]

This was one of the best opening skits you've ever done 🤣

[@hippaposk762]

Those AI spoken Todd Howard dialogues are exactly how an honest game reveal would look like from bethesda

[@TheFabulousRBK]

Sadly I doubt TES 6 is going to break this streak of mediocrity

[@Darkrengi]

It doesn't matter how long it takes for you to upload reviews. Because I don't watch them to see if I should play something. I honestly just enjoy hearing your thoughts on a game.

[@yimpyoi9808]

plus these reviews are hilarious, AJ never misses with the skits

[@sparkyspinz9897]

His reviews are always late but that's because he puts in the mf'in time and puts together a banger well edited video, with gameplay and skits. I don't think there's another reviewer that puts in this level of work

[@Darkrengi]

@@sparkyspinz9897 preach

[@captainziggy82]

Same it’s mad ent entertaining

[@Cr0wsMurd3r]

Yeh, seeing the numbers on the reviews at the end of the video just tells me the other reviewers are bought as fuck. Tbf, from anything I've seen of this game I would not give it a 4/10 even. Bethesda is a huge AAA studio with loads of money and they put out this geriatric piece of shit. With all the money they've earned from re-releasing Skyrim over and over and over and over again for 12 years they should have been able to afford making a new engine, not reusing the same engine they used for Morrowind 20 years ago. I remember being awed by Daggerfall and Morrowind, even Oblivion and F3... this just makes me feel angry. Starfield would maybe have been an achievement for a AA studio and 3-4 years of development. For Bethesda and 8 years of development its borderline criminal in 2023.

[@cabuscus]

During that first ring puzzle i genuinely thought i was losing my mind questioning whether or not it was progressing.

[@NotTheStinkyCheese]

the second one I still didn't understand what it was I was supposed to be doing. Google search told me that all you really need to do is hit 5 of those markers within a time limit. The music is your only clue. And you get to do the exact same thing for every fluppin' "power" in the game. At least in Skyrim every location for every rune was unique. It was fun to find the next rune or just stumble upon its location.

[@ISometimesAgree]

@@NotTheStinkyCheese Its gets even better when you realize you can do NG+ and hit rank 10 in each power...24 powers, x10 trips = 240 trips to do all those loading screens and the flying to collect the sparkle thing to max it out, especially my favorite NPC quotes every time you go to the eye. "Wow that ship is so amazing, can you hold still while we scan it, pretty please?" x240 times....honestly so much fun, 10/10 Game of the Decade for sure. (this is sarcasm for those unable to comprehend the sarcasm)

[@SirCap15]

There is mod that fixes that, besides, there is literally no reason to grind powers besides being masochistic completionist

[@ISometimesAgree]

@@SirCap15 the fact that you need a mod after a month to fix any type of issue on a triple a game is crazy

[@Tofi_ytchannel]

Sometimes it gets bugged and whatever you do, it won't progress. After I realized that, I made a save every time before entering a temple and I had to use it for reloading at least 5 times out of the 24. Not only it is boring as fuck even for the third time, but also buggy so you probably have to do it more than 24 times during a playthrough... which is simply ridiculous. As is the one lone starborn enemy always spawning at the same place, with the same timing, after you teleport out of the temple. It would make much more sense if the Starborn were already there before you find the temple, protecting it and trying to prevent you from entering, knowing that you have all the artifacts it is a pretty easy assumption that sooner or later you'll show up lol. If every temple was made to be found at the end of a labyrinth with enemies and different puzzles, I wouldn't even mind to play that same fucking light-catching minigame 24 times as it still would feel like a reward. Now it's just a mundane task that you are required to repeat again and again like some trucker.

[@HS-hx8ti]

Man seeing Joe in 2023 feels like revisiting an old friend.

[@thegaminghydra592]

Been subbed since 2014 lol, not a huge fan of all the other content but man Joe's game reviews have consistently been top notch.

[@pacifica2391]

I don't always find his skits or type of comedies funny, but it's comfy regardless

[@AlekTrev006]

I was happy to see he’s surged past 3 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS ! Amazing legacy, to Joe & Co 😃

[@fireballdick]

He hasn’t changed a bit

[@captured_agent5714]

KZbin personalities ARE my old friends. Parasocial relationships are vastly superior to actual friends

[@joeyb8208]

The best review channel out there. So specific and no fluff.

[@codered1132]

It’s actually comedy to think people were confident enough that this would win Game of the Year. 😂

[@Wiktorino1984]

Game of decade.

[@thedoctor3996]

The Last of Us 2 won game of the year 2020, so it's possible that Starfield might

[@wardvandecotte9253]

@@thedoctor3996 At least TLOU2 had fantastic graphics and game-play. Starfield won't be even nominated for GOTY.

[@ergohash2517]

bethesda has an army of dedicated fans, every review that dared to even slightly criticise the game at launch were torn to pieces.

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

Most of those fans are probably regretting it, now that they realize how nothing it really is@@ergohash2517

[@Hikikomori_Gaming]

Fallout 4 with the mods I have is the best thing i've ever played.

[@Browdeh]

Facts

[@PimpGameArnoldPalmer]

Lost World? Most definitely

[@Roleman]

aStoryWealth + aSW Harder/Survival collections from Nexus

[@randyx007]

That and Skyrim... Especially in VR

[@skinless333x2]

I pity you

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

Joe and crew always deliver the goods. Pretty crazy this channel has been uploading these awesome Angry Reviews for friggin' years. These guys just get shit done and ya gotta appreciate the work ethic, but especially the entertaining end result.

[@pavelmat372]

Ye Joe needs to get some beta play tests , as noone does there job correctly everyone is afraid to get fired , or talked down by the boss

[@Remorsefullyhumble]

Kiss him already

[@PenguinsAreColdish]

gawk gawk gawk

[@Azuria969]

your gf yesterday🤣🤣🤣🤣 on my ding dong

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

@@pavelmat372 Yeah, these days they either fall in line or get replaced real quick.

[@Snapshot290]

Honestly when you put this next to games like Cyberpunk (after the fixes) and The Witcher, combine that with how good indie games are coming out, this game felt like more of a 4/10 tbh. BELOW average.

[@LargeLeonard]

Funniest part about the UI is that even TODD HOWARD admitted he uses a UI mod for Skyrim when he plays. So they developed a game for 8 years, knew the UI system was garbage and then proceeded to make it even worse. Top tier game development right there...

[@Ioganstone]

And now they're blaming Fallout 76 multiplayer and Elder Scrolls 6 earliness on fans. They are just empty suits IMO.

[@Enkabard]

and it just works, over 10 million copies sold ? hahaha todd that mad boy must be laughing at the criticism :) gamers really, really dont care about much in their games.

[@Brakiri]

@Enkabard Where did you get this number from? 10 million players, yes but most of them on gamepass. Steam sales are estimated around 1,5 to 5 million.

[@Enkabard]

@@Brakiri they sold 6 million copies in first week, so considering its been nearly two months since release, they are probably at 15-20 million copies, so with 10 million it was safe number to say for 100%.

[@Zortomm]

The companions' morality is so upsetting for me. And the worst is that they would say the worst things to you and the next second they'll greet you like you're the best person they've ever met

[@Icannothandleany]

“You disgusting pig”

[@garbearfar1394]

Just be a good guy 👍 even on your third new game plus!

[@ManOfEthnicity]

Did a pirate play through and towards the final act every single member took me aside to berate me over every question resolution I had taken. They made a bunch of judgmental ,virtue signalers the main faction that you're required to heavily interact with the progress the game. It's some FO3 nonsense.

[@Limrasson]

@@ManOfEthnicity Maybe you are just a shit person in general. If you disagree with a bunch of virtue-signalers, then just kill them and get friends that agree with you. Now, not being able to do that is on Bethesda. But I simply do not remember any of the virtue stuff being a problem in FO3, sure the karma system is eh, but who cares anyway.

[@j0nnyism]

I think they’re morality is based on the way Todd treats the dev team

[@MrBrightside6969]

Honestly.... So fucking funny, I loved watching this. So amazing, please never stop doing these. The skits are so amazing.

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

The review we all have been waiting for! Let's hope sweet liar Todd watches this and has as much fun as we did lol

[@OGgluttonoustoad]

the bloopers where oj refused to look at aj was god damn fucking hilarious

[@craighelmholz]

I haven’t laughed that hard in months.

[@SpadeApeiron]

I just noticed they made SLEEPING realistic & immersive than Space Travel XD ~

[@bigbananadealer846]

​@@FcoEnriquePerezi do wonder if todd watches angry joe, it would be a good place to see common gripes in an easily digestible video

[@sofaking1627]

Starfield's crowning achievement was getting Larian to give us Baldur's Gate 3 a little sooner. Suck it Todd

[@xbigcalx]

Fucking savage

[@sofaking1627]

@@xbigcalx Thank you.

[@Gorgutsforcongress]

Oh yea, the baldurs gate 3 game where I can't progress because it keeps deleting my 100 hour saves randomly. Love that game.

[@chasefox-n9k]

​@Gorgutsforcongress what are you talking about? I played game for over 400 hours across multiple campaigns and never had that problem once. Worst that ever happened was a save constantly crashing due to bad mod interactions on my end

[@UnprofessionalGriefer]

​@@Gorgutsforcongress Never heard that happen. Still, BG3 is infinitely better than any of Bethesda's latest releases

[@georgewheeler1566]

"It's not about the destination, it's about the journey." Unless you're playing Star Field then it's about a loading screen 🤣

[@Pinguin2422]

My biggest problem with Starfield is the exploration. I loved running towards the quest marker in Skyrim and Fallout 4 and experiencing numerous adventures along the way. what are you doing in Starfield? You teleport directly to the quest marker and there is no other way to do the journey like in Skyrim or Fallout. After 130 hours I can say that at some point it just feels like teleporting here and teleporting here instead of enjoying the atmosphere, which hardly comes up in Starfield. It's a shame, that was allways the best part in bethesda games in my opinion.😐

[@Cat_main_apex]

Exactly

[@pepperoni_brewboy]

Well said mate. I am a Bethesda fan and I just can't get into the game. After about just 40 hours I have lost interest in it. It feels empty and like you said with no exploration. That is the main reason why even though Fallout 76 got a lot of hate, I really enjoyed it. It had that exploration that you're talking about. Very dissapointed with the game.

[@RedneckPrincessofTacticoolness]

After all these years I can still count on Joe to give the most iconic reviews

[@stanknight9159]

That's right, he's the Ubisoft of KZbin Reviewers lol.

[@jaleshere]

@@stanknight9159but this is actually a good review and good content so idk about the ubi comparison

[@RX7FDfreak]

Exactly right! And he entertains for the entire hour!

[@ScrambledBrain5]

What the fuck does that even mean? Iconic doesn't mean what you seem to think it does.

[@stanknight9159]

@@jaleshereOh yeah, I love Angry Joe and this review. Just the 'iconic' part, I couldn't hold it in lol. It's like I use the phrase "It's the Dark Souls of..." everywhere too.

[@TheDantsu]

Fool me once ( Fallout76 ), shame on you. Fool me twice ( Starfield ). . . . shame on . . . . you can't get fooled a second time.

[@overscoreSX]

That whole skit @25:20 was so funny... "Isnt this where you wanted to go?" Joe in disappointment: "....... yeh......"

[@jcudejko]

Man, I saw your comment before the skit happened and it was just as good as you said I still laughed out loud because I wasn't expecting it in that context what the hell Bethesda?

[@Munchkinross]

I'm so glad we can still rely on Angry Joe for an honest review

[@B-...]

My favorite NPC graphical glitch of all time was from a Dragon Age Origins dlc. You were supposed to knock out some guards, then they'd talk to you later in the mission. But if the "killing" aka knockout blow as a crit, you decapitated them. Then when they spoke to you later they'd be a body with no head chatting you up. It's the little things...

[@therizzos6565]

Vasco's punch at @6:19 was so funny. So rare to find anything surprising or even interesting in this game

[@drtatronusb6677]

The most disappointing thing was not being able to take off by yourself or enter the atmospheres of the planets, what sense then have a game with so many ships if you can't use them well

[@Justforvisit]

It's Destiny all over again in that regard, isn't it? Destiny: "Here, your new awesome ship!" Player: "Yaaaay, another glorified boring loading screen!"

[@gabzsy4924]

Play Star Citizen

[@alkimia1791]

Pretty much exactly this. When I first saw Starfield, I just assumed it would be like that. Where you can take off by yourself, enter the atmospheres of the planets, and you know actually explore with very few restrictions. But nope, it's terrible

[@samsonaagaard]

They scould have made it like u fly to planet and then the loading screen at Least

[@Relhio]

Hey man, Elite Dangerous has a 1:1 recreation of the size of our Galaxy, go have fun.

[@revl8n817]

Leave it to Bethesda to turn the high point of a galaxy wide RPG into a ship construction job.

[@MMMHOTCHEEZE]

Leave it to Bethesda to take a feature (infinite radiant quests) they mislead people about which people disliked and build an entire game around it.

[@AlwayzFresh]

10 years ago this game would have blown me away, speechless. In 2023 it does not hold up when compared to almost all other space exploration games. The story and quests are decent, but it all feels claustrophobic. More reviews like this and I will be forced to re-subscribe. Who would have imagined future exploration involves astronauts running and jumping for miles on end instead of any type of land vehicle. "After 100 hours in the game I have zero idea where anything is in New Atlantis". LMFAO so very true.

[@RagingUtai]

i memorised the armory and medical centre. that's it. I think todd wanted us to explore and lok for street signs and such. Issue is, place wasn't that interesing to want to explore and walk around.

[@eleven99]

Really not looking forward to TES6 anymore.

[@FTWinnick]

That part about not knowing where anything is in New Atlantis after many hours of the game is so true, that has to be one of the worst game cities ever made. Those Todd Howard voice overs were hilarious.

[@celan4288]

It helps to realize that there is nothing to find.

[@brahimdiop5506]

Nothing has changed since Vivec City in Morrowind

[@Legacyartist]

@@brahimdiop5506 It did for a time but I guess Todd got nostalgic.

[@Subject_Keter]

You would think in a s c i f i setting, they would have neon decals showing where the shit is? Hell in Skyrim you can find the merchants easy and r e a d the signs.

[@Whazzupie]

@@Subject_Keter There's even a mod that 'remedies' the problem by just turning those standing nothing-ads NPC's already stare at in the plazas into a high-res mall-like 'YOU ARE HERE' map guides to the area and stores with clear labels. The smallest change by a modder makes what feels like the biggest difference into something actually quirky, like 'Hey the city is hard to navigate, so you need to be like a tourist' but that feelings not intentional lol That's just bad design and lack of navigational assistance or a freaking *m a p.*

[@furanduron4926]

Finally a fair Starfield review. Bethesda needs to be better than this.

[@jcman-lp6lg]

no fans need to do better year after year I see fan saw shit like " Lul, this is the Bethesda we all love" " this is why I love Bethesda" " Bethesda never change" etc. All talking about bugs and they're not joking about it. As long as they keep buy the game and keep praising buggy janky stuff bethesda do, bethesda will never do anything heck I think its too late for them to do better cause they don't care. " modder will do the job for us"

[@PTHYTQV]

Bethesda wont improve while people keep eating any crap they make.

[@danjjjatest]

To be fair, Most developers dont even attempt to make space games because making seemless space travel and 100's planets full of life is impossible on any engine. Starfield's design restrictions make sense considering the scope. Its not going to tick all the boxes (hence Jo's negative attitude towards the entire game) but its still the best space game ever made.

[@TheSoulWithin7]

​@@jcman-lp6lgnah your mentality is twisted

[@gwstreams]

@@danjjjatestNo Mans Sky

[@SpiralKnight90]

The worst news about those starborn powers is each "NG+" run you can collect them again to make them stronger and they cap out at 10... 240 TIMES YOU HAVE TO COLLECT THEM TO MAX THE ALL OUT!

[@PatrickWDunne]

This has got to be one of the funniest reviews you guys have done!

[@fyrestorme]

can't believe there is actually a game that made me wish for the days of "another settlement needs your help!"

[@basshead.]

@@fudgepacker2858 Pretty much. I find Skyrim characters completely devoid of personality and the story feels lifeless.

[@basshead.]

@@Aggrobiscuit I like the characters and companions in Fallout 4 much more than in Skyrim tho.

[@Coregame3]

I was thinking this too. At least settlement defense was fun.

[@newnamesameperson397]

I only play fallout4 and skyrim with mods at this point. If I ever get starfield it will be when it's on sale and has a substantial amount of overhauls mods

[@HoratioCanus]

@@basshead. For me Fallout New Vegas set a standard, that bethesdas writing team has never been able to keep up with. It is frustrating that a game from 2010, seems so more lifelike, and world-driven then current bethesda. They are good at the visual world design, but even that feels less atmospheric in recent games. If I compare Starfield and Outer Worlds, and gets asked what ment more.. Outer Worlds win every time..

[@gartet1]

These are the quality of reviews that make you guys so special. Hilarious sketches and straight facts. I’ve loved and watched all of your reviews but this one was quintessential angry joe show. Love you guys.