The Witcher Season 1 - Angry Spoilers Discussion!

[@paramortalics]

This layout is showing me Other Joe's legs under the table and I'm uncomfortable.

[@Thaumaturge2251]

Omg cant believe you spotted that. xD

[@captaincluster316]

Lols good spot 😁

[@eternalbeing3339]

Lol 😆

[@mrenemy7674]

paramortalics 😂

[@Glimiril]

I was about to write something similar, it cannot be unseen once you notice it :) Edited to correct right to write, still some xmas spirits in me :)

[@SiriusV23]

I thought Roach played his role very well.

[@biobeckerrr]

Her... It's a mare.

[@Jake.Nash629]

The horse in real life was Male tho

[@Jake.Nash629]

@@biobeckerrr so wait a male horse playing a female horse is horrible he stole that role from an independent female horse. Burn him at the stake

[@rhaibi12]

@@Jake.Nash629 more forced diversity...

[@FiliIsHere]

I disagree, Roach should've teleported onto all the roofs, smh

[@aaron3431]

Jaskier didn’t steal the first 2 wishes!! He tried to but Geralt was the master so the wishes didn’t work. Geralts first wish was for Jaskier to stop talking so he lost his voice. His second wish was for the guy who was beating him up to burst. His third wish was to tie his and Yen’s fates together

[@aaron3431]

Also mousesack telepathically told geralt that something was wrong with the fake Ciri. That’s why he went looking. It wasn’t by chance that he found her.

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

In the books the wish seemed to me it was that they get a child, considering her surprised reaction after he asks it. And what Ciri becomes for both of them later on. And the first wish in the book is very different. The djinn wasn't pleased at all.

[@Faelivri]

@Nicolas Ferreiro If someone is curious: a priestess that Geralt meet taught him words to banish evil spirits (or something in these terms, you get the idea). Turns out they translate as "get out of here and fuck yourself". No idea what language, probably some sort of elven. Or maybe I missed that part. Oh well.

[@Booneface]

I thought he wished for that nap!!

[@acmaiden5236]

@@Booneface lol, it could be the show's wish indeed. I just tought he faked being asleep to not reveal her his true wish, falling in love with each other

[@cenauge]

Just some notes and clarifications: That whole "Geralt coincidentally sees fake Ciri curtsy to real Ciri" thing wasn't coincidence, it was Mousesack. There is no way he was on board with lying to Geralt and trying to defy destiny, so he magicked open that door that led Geralt to precisely where he needed to be to discover Calanthe's deception. The Dragon wasn't being a dick when he exposed Geralt's wish; he literally said something like "I see your destiny" and so he pretty clearly saw that Geralt (by way of Djinn shenanigans) was messing with destiny. A Geralt that is still honeymooning with Yennifer is a Geralt that is not on his way to Cintra to claim Ciri. Speaking of the Djinn, I liked that Geralt was all "I know it is in this lake." Subtle nod to all that Witcher-y investigation that didn't get much play in the rest of the series. Ciri in the woods was all about advancing Ciri's only real story arc this season: losing everybody and finding Geralt. Because they changed it so that Geralt and Ciri had never met before they finally meet in episode 8 (instead of how it happened in the books), her being in that forest was basically just to enable her to lose Mousesack for good, and then have Dara leave her. Speaking of the Doppler and not knowing stuff about Mousesack; the Doppler is implied to know facts, not feelings. Ciri asked him basically questions about how he felt about leaving his home and how he felt about the weather. Mousesack saying he feels like Cintra was his home or that he has arthritis doesn't directly relate to whether he missed Skellige or hated the cold, but Ciri knew how the real Mousesack felt.

[@juan-tonsoup1792]

Glad I saw this.

[@VioletDeathRei]

Underrated Comment.

[@Nathan-si4eq]

Very useful input!! I had a huge problem with Mousesack’s doppelgänger and this makes me feel so relieved. Thank you!

[@sw204me]

This comment should be at the very top.

[@andymota2286]

cenauge what did you think of season 1?

[@jameswayton2340]

''Yennefer is a character you had to nail'' - Angry Joe 2019

[@blazeaglory]

Dude, hunchback or not, SHE FINE AS HELL!

[@CnutLongsword]

So many confused boners before her transformation... It was rough guys.

[@blazeaglory]

@AquaLion GG Yeah. I can look past all the mess and see the inner beauty haha There was a really fine handicapped girl in my neighborhood back in the day with a body like a goddess and she would literally try and seduce me anytime we were alone. At first I didn't really know how to handle a situation like that but eventually she over powered me lol

[@blazeaglory]

@@CnutLongsword haha

[@blazeaglory]

@AquaLion GG no, not fully but it was still a very magical experience lol basically everything but "the main deed"

[@dra6ke]

If Mark Hamill played vesemir, we would finally get to see the mentoring we never saw in this new Star Wars trilogy. I'm down!

[@SouthpawSatch]

He's also great in Knightfall season 2

[@JesiAsh]

Mark Hamill with Cat Eyes? Make it happen ;)

[@Alhawaii1]

Madds mikkelson would be 1000x times a better choice

[@Sergio-th7os]

Alhawaii over mark hamil?Nahhhh u tripping hard

[@Alhawaii1]

Sergio Weed hamill isn’t that great. He played one good role that defined his career entirely. Nobody cares about a joker cartoon. Madds all the way

[@charlesjames7189]

"When are titties unnecessary?!" -Angry Joe, 2019. Truly, the wisest man in all the land!

[@drunktomcruise8224]

Answer to this question: *When feminism is present*

[@Earthslastlegend]

@@drunktomcruise8224 judges will not accept this answer.

[@chaost4544]

This is the correct answer.

[@Bussy-Hunter]

Altered Carbon had way too many titties imo.

[@chaost4544]

@@Bussy-Hunter Altered Carbon has the appropriate amount of boobage for it's subject matter. I'm not complaining.

[@SolidMikeP]

Took the kids to the zoo yesterday, out of no where I sang out "TOSS A COIN TO YOUR WITCHER" just singing to my kids, and some dude...like 50 feet away just shouter "VALLEY OF PLENTY OOWHHWHOO" - Didnt even try to explain to my wife.

[@danielelkadi3499]

Solid Mike P that’s hilarious

[@dogsbreakfast4952]

Sounds made up

[@popcornfilms1]

Solid Mike P I’ll take 10 orens that that didn’t happen

[@SolidMikeP]

popcornfilms1 if it helps it was the sf zoo

[@atticuschea8985]

i would be like "well I see that you are a man of culture yourself" or "My MAN" in denzel washington' voice

[@Sketchylizard9191]

Joe looking like Jon snow cosplaying as Daenerys.

[@blazeaglory]

Haha

[@Aemond2024]

damnbb

[@IRamnosI]

But... She's mah queen!

[@SooRandomTV]

I burst out laughing while taking a dump at this comment.

[@navneetiyer]

Tissaia's actress MyAnna Buring also voices Anna Henrietta , The Duchess of Toussaint in Blood and Wine

[@navtektv]

Xletalis.

[@markpahilanga6801]

THATS WHY SHE SOUNDS SO FAMILIAR!!!!

[@HaiseKuromeruMMD]

immediately googled it when i heard her voice.

[@TbYolo]

I loved Jaskier and Geralt's friendship and interaction the most everytime they were on screen together was hilarious and great. Henry Cavill nailed Geralt he was perfect he got the voice right the look and his personality. I loved Yennefer as well she was amazing

[@ClingyParasite]

i agree, one of my worries with the witcher was that it would feel a bit to diffrent from the games look, but they matched it so well while also looking pretty natural about it and good

[@uberkind-412]

I disagree

[@76marex]

@@uberkind-412 doesn't matter

[@JerkFacedMailbox]

Fuck

[@TbYolo]

@@uberkind-412 What do you disagree with ?? Be more specific

[@jmo7561]

Yennifer didn’t actually want a baby. She wanted everything. She was told she couldn’t have a baby so she wanted to prove that she could have it all

[@JazneoGaming]

@Admire Kashiri she hate to be told no lol. funny part Geralt has surprise baby because of the Law of Surprise

[@vane909090]

Yennefer is the typical feminist - wants it all, realizes it's impossible when she hits the wall.

[@k9px]

I love how Yennefer grows... what people don't get is that she feels empty, at first she wants to be beautiful, then she wants power... then a baby... she's constantly trying to fill in that emptiness... and she's slowing figuring out that what she needs is someone with who to feel needed and loved. You can really see this in her fury when she yells "i want everything"... she doesn't know what she wants...

[@zertinanGT]

this! and also i thought she wanted the baby because she was never satisfied with life and kept trying to find that one thing to give her purpose so she ended up having the idea that a baby would give her purpose but still ended up a dead end

[@piotrjeske5991]

@Admire Kashiri it is not about the baby. It is about power. She sacrificed motherhood to get magical power and looks. But she wanted to prove to everyone she can have everything, the power, the looks and the things she shouldn't be able to have.

[@ukironman1]

Just so everyone knows Henry Cavil pushed to have more signs in the series!

[@monkeyking1150]

I want to see yrden be used. Seeing it slow down humans will be awesome.

[@thewitchaaa6110]

@@monkeyking1150 Pretty sure yrden was used in the striga fight.

[@moganza]

@@thewitchaaa6110 It was. Twice.

[@moganza]

​@Stephen braden​ Yes and he used yrden on the door so the Striga wouldn't leave and then he used it on the coffin.

[@monkeyking1150]

moganza oh that’s what that was. I’m used to seeing it as the purple circle.

[@asherking159]

The actress that plays Tissia, the rectoress of Aretuza, played Anna Henrietta in the Witcher 3

[@acmaiden5236]

Awesome! I think she really nailed the part! Great to see more of her than we did in the books

[@urklenurkle]

Wow! Fun fact!

[@RedTeamOmega]

Ah, the true witcher waifu

[@anitaremenarova6662]

She must really love the Witcher haha

[@jasonheras1955]

I appreciate your trivia, sir

[@ragnar97]

"I'm Tiss" "No you're not" Exactly what I thought lol

[@MilesBlasius]

@@battleangel4833 not excatly

[@rubberbandman3rd]

@@MilesBlasius why do you disagree

[@ragnar97]

@@battleangel4833 That is true, she's barely in them after the first novel right? Edit: In fact, now that I think of it, she didn't even appear in the short story the episode is based on, right? Or am I missremembering? The last wish is one of the last books I read (I left the short stories for last) but I don't think I recall Triss being around xD

[@karandev9316]

@@battleangel4833 Tiss is the Rectoress of Aretuza. I sort of compare her to Dumbledore. They both are the heads of their respective magical academies, shouldn't she be a bit more powerful and cunning than she was shown to be in the last episode?

[@Deukish]

@@karandev9316 You're confusing Triss with Tissaia.

[@FreakazoidRobots]

Re: Yennefer's power level. The impression I got is that she was "weak" because she wasn't allowed to use fire magic, and apparently that, portals, and illusion magic are the only things she's good at. So at the end when she was finally given permission to use fire, we got to see her true abilities.

[@TheLordCrash]

Nobody is allowed to use fire magic in the Witcher world. But who cares about lore?!...

[@TheAngryHumster]

@@TheLordCrash that was BEFORE Nilfgaard raping every country they see

[@13_faces]

Apparently yen is indian, and can fight 10 fully armored soldiers by herself in nothing but a robe..

[@TheAngryHumster]

@@13_faces in a books she could easily defeat Geralt

[@ultravioletcatastrophe]

@@TheLordCrash It's very clearly established in the show that fire magic is illegal, but Nilfgaard have taken it up because their sorcery has no limits. Only by giving up their limits and principles of control can the Northern mages defeat Nilfgaard. It makes perfect sense to me.

[@kopicat2429]

That witcher was killed by the Striga. But Triss buried him and kept his death a secret so that the people wouldn't panick even more. Rather they think poorly of the scummy witchers then think that the monster was such a huge threat that not even said witcher was able to save them. Wich would in turn make them hate Foltest even more then they already did for his lack of action. So no, there was no fake witcher.

[@crozraven]

yes, the political side of this is it was announced that the striga is dead, killed by Foltest soldiers, therefore gaining favors from temerian citizens & the civil unrest from the coal miners was averted. The one that actually saved/lifted the princess's curse, Geralt, dying in bed & no praise & need to secretly get out of the kingdom to avoid suspicions. It's kinda fucked up if you think about it.

[@AllThings_Gaming-c1m]

Croz Raven Well, it’s best suited for propaganda not cause a wide spread hysteria ,just like “reality” eh in our world.. the media covering only half the truth or none at all. In the games, especially Witcher 1 & 2- Geralt does help Foltest

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

He would be the Cat medallion jerk from Season of Storms. Their mutation does indeed affect their emotions and the Cat goes because they are fickle and cruel animals (ever seen one play an hour with a mouse before the kill?).

[@Cosmodjinn]

@@AllThings_Gaming-c1m that occurs 15ish years later, when someone reactivates the curse in Adda. Of course Foltest would call back the person that broke the curse the first time.

[@zippidisx2749]

It is so weird knowing the books because this feels like fan fiction.

[@ClearSpade]

Ep 4 is a good example why not missing a line is so important. Especially if you want to understand why shes persistent in getting a child. In the carriage the queen tells Yen "People look at you for who you are, not for what you can give them.... To this baby I'M the WHOLE world." And for Yen that's what she really wants anyway, ep 6 she said "I dreamed of being important to someone." And that's a dream she had even before Geralt and even before she became a sorceress.

[@cchavez4053]

Allen Alvarez another one in regards to the timelines is in episode one when the show discusses Queen Calanthe’s first battle

[@Acre2]

C Chavez I missed the Calanthe line the first time, so it took me until somewhere around episode 4 I think to realize that these weren’t all happening at the same time. I rewatched it again with my brother a couple days later, and that time I caught it. It helps that I actually knew the names that time around.

[@Abrams1985]

NavarreteEnsemble you also have a scene with young Foltest and Adda at Aretuza in ep3, while Geralt in the same episode meets older Foltest ;)

[@Crobian]

I dunno her whole baby thing was really stupid. Istredd offered for them to run away and live together, where he would work on his research and she would could do mage jobs, she's like nah fuck that I don't want to be a housewife (??). Then she was given the choice for fertility or beauty, and she gave up her fertility without hesitation. Then she had a monologue to a dead baby, saying women are just an empty vessel for men, and that the dead baby girl was lucky because she won at life by not getting to play the game, because life is a disappointment. ...Then the next 2 episodes her life goal is to have a baby. I loved Yennefer and the actress was great, but the whole motivation for her DESPERATELY wanting a baby was baffling.

[@seraby7151]

@@Crobian yen already implied that she's very selfish and she wants everything, love and beauty. She was written this way so that when she'll have a character arc when she meets Ciri and become close to a mother.

[@DanTheMan-yx9vw]

Alex: "There's a lot of orgy's for no reason" You need to watch Spartacus then mate!

[@Maverick-7508]

i find the "guy behind the camera" comment hilarious, wasn't the writer for the show a woman?

[@blackvial]

You mean Pornacus

[@ghostrighter9251]

And Game of Thrones. And yes, much of the sex is tagged on for effect. Not exactly a story enhancer.

[@DoubleJayU]

Alex the only guy complaining about tits.

[@eminiclam]

@@DoubleJayU it's almost like he isn't a stupid horny virgin like some people here.

[@edward-byanyothername]

about the wishes - it's literally taken from the books, he wanted them for himself so idk how it could be out of character

[@arasonyth3243]

Pretty sure the wishes are different in the books.

[@chachock6728]

@@arasonyth3243 in the books both of them were fishing and dandelion was the one who found the bottle and he released the genie and started wishing immediately. also geralt wasnt looking for it in the books it was a complete accident Other than that geralt sent the genie away by using some incantation he learnt from a temple and it turns out he got the wishes because it meant "get away from here and go fuck yourself" in a language geralt didn't understand

[@chachock6728]

@@13redlion13 yeah i was talking about how it happened in the books

[@stephensmith7327]

@@mallman23 wasn't he defending him from Other Joe and the third guy(I'm not a active watcher)

[@salad1000]

"it's 2019, you're not supposed to talk about..." *"-anything"* well said

[@Agrothewarhorse]

Take a shot every time they say “destiny” in the show.

[@elperronimo]

liver failure

[@Agrothewarhorse]

Liver failure or not I hope they add the drunk witchers scene from the game when geralt, eskel, and lambert get shit faced

[@cbp117]

Hmm

[@combatcorncob6334]

@@Agrothewarhorse I doubt they will. The show is following the story of the books, not the games.

[@Agrothewarhorse]

Cobe Hamilton it’d be awesome if they did lol basically a downtime episode before a major battle

[@peterschelvis6975]

Would be amazing if geralt tried to talk to other people in the serie, and ends up just lighting a bunch of candles.

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

touche, made me laugh

[@argo117007]

Ok console peasant. We on PC don’t have the same button for talk and ignite

[@jackboy2413]

Fr shit is annoying in the video games 😂😂

[@quiksilver6312]

“She buried him 4 inches deep on the beach!” Hahahaha I laughed so hard at that! Thought the same thing when I saw that!

[@blazeaglory]

IKR? 10 minutes later the high tide came in and the waves washed the baby out to sea

[@Bawrabawla]

yeah, i was so angry when joe said "shut up"... was like no you fucking shut up joe

[@Liztomaniam]

@@blazeaglory exactly what i was thinking and i started to laugh loud i think it was done on purpose to be honest hahahahaha

[@kityhawk2000]

@@lublinmetalhead5547 you mean botchling

[@adumdumdum]

*her. The whole point of that plot was that the chick couldn't produce a male heir.

[@sujimayne]

*The reason Geralt has white hair is because he's gone through additional mutations, he's essentially Witcher Mk II.* Even Vesimir doesn't have white hair, he has grey hair due to age.

[@citus333]

Wait what so he was just old LUL

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

@@alishahrose2076 His father was a random mercenary soldier.

[@matthewlee567]

@@nicolasferreiro4492 The snowman thing was said by the Sylvan in the show to insult Geralt.

[@FatalFist]

Were it not for his white hair, the result of stress undergoing his trials, he and Eskel would have looked identical were it not for Eskel's marks on his face.

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

Where is this brought up/mentioned?

[@RetroVikingr89]

Jaskier didn't steal any "wishes"- what Geralt wished happened to Jaskier.

[@retrogradebolide2198]

Its more that Jaskier thought he was the master and able to make 3 wishes.

[@naragath2531]

People not understanding that or the different timelines really opened my eyes. I understand now why so many people claim the mandalorian is better than the witcher. They have zero attention span.

[@Adam-082]

@@naragath2531 The mandalorian is good but its a completely different type of show lol i hate how everything has to be compared.I love them both and i don't need to compare them at all.People just don't want to be wrong they want to be right 100% of the time.Just like what you said and i have said its our opinion.

[@windup13ird60]

I think what Joe and Co are saying there isn't that Jaskier stole the wishes but that he immediately attempts to. Geralt explains he wants to use the djinn for his insomnia (haha) but when it is out Jaskier launches into wishes of his own. So yeah, he totally does try to steal the wishes from Geralt.

[@KerienShien]

@@windup13ird60 Wish 1: want to get rid of insomnia (falls asleep at the end of the episode). Wish 2: Shut up Jaskier (his throat swells). Wish 3: We dont hear what it realy was

[@cocashizzlecola60]

It can’t be overstated how good of an addition Alex is to the angry Joe show. He’s been here for a few years now but I can’t imagine the show without him. He’s absolutely hilarious with brilliant insight. Nothing against Joe another Joe. They are the true OG’s of course but Alex is such a perfect addition.

[@g-moneyy7707]

38:00 had me crackin up hard haha. She dug a hole 4” deep on the beach lol. Hilarious

[@blurrble5]

Totally agree! I just found this channel and have started diving into the older episodes. Love the Joe's but definitely find myself missing Alex

[@ManuelFernandez-nm4hy]

The best episode to me was number 3, the striga is horrifying and seeing geralt drink potions before the fight felt so much like the games

[@Jigolopuff]

agree

[@Humbled_Mumbles]

Why is nobody talking about the most perfectly casted character in the entire series? ROACH!!!

[@ragnar97]

I really hope he talks at some point xD

[@sokka44]

Hmm ... Agree

[@666bambucia]

She's called Płotka *

[@JMMurray203]

Sarah Jessica Parker really knocked it out of the park

[@echidna60]

@@666bambucia Noone gives a shit the horse is actually a male in the movie thanks

[@nazeef7094]

I loved jaskier and not many people are talking about him

[@kopicat2429]

@Scott Nunn Me2. Not sure if Dandelion is his new name in the game or if it is simply a nickname of sorts though. Been a while since i read Dandelions in-game character bio.

[@martindizlindahl3649]

@Scott Nunn In Spanish his name his Jaskier so idk

[@Dor_Z]

@@kopicat2429 Jaskier is the name he has in Poland and Dandelion is his name in the English books and games.

[@paramortalics]

You haven't seen everyone singing Toss a Coin to Your Witcher?

[@hoyinboscowong9960]

Give us more songs!!!

[@Sentrygun84]

"She didn't care about it that much. She burried it like 4 inches deep ON THE BEACH." - Alex' brutality knows no limits.

[@argo117007]

Bradley Tibbetts bruh if u actually watch closely it’s literally 2 inches not even 4

[@prochilles1246]

Lol i was laughing so hard lol, it was just a baby-shaped sand mound lol. But, I made up in my head that maybe she is just covering it to protect from birds etc. until the tide can wash it out.

[@MrJuke79]

Not all Witcher’s have white hair Geralts hair turns white during the trials

[@bloggs24]

Exactly, Joe says he put 100's of hours into TW3, yet didnt realise Eskel, Lambert and a few other Witchers you meet in the game all have dark hair.

[@TheNate371]

Yeah, his hair turned white due to being subjected to additional experimental trials.

[@BrownOpsLeak]

This is untrue provide evidence or gtfo

[@berkantcetin2434]

@@BrownOpsLeak It's explained in the books. Geralt can endure standard Witcher mutations easily so they mutated him more than usual. As a result he has stronger abilities and senses than his fellow Witchers but as a side effect, removed most of the pigmentation from his body.

[@TheNate371]

Berkant Çetin Thank you for the detail, I have no idea why he was so hostile.

[@AbsoluteDiletant]

the reason you dont remember Dara is that he straight up wasnt in the books and is an added character

[@MrNetrizhul]

Joined show thanks to black quota in USA?

[@JoKeRakaAlessandro]

Gerald's mom looked more like Triss then the actress they choose to portray her :D

[@khyronbradford]

Callme Deadpool did you ever read the books you stupid fuck? Triss is not redhead you lardass.

[@angelafernandez7486]

Chestnut hair not red but Trisha, is also supposed to look younger than yen. She doesn't in the show and she's supposed to be European not Arab.

[@Purifycaly]

@@khyronbradford Yennefer calls Triss red in one the books , maybe research before you say stupid shit?

[@uraxii2944]

@@khyronbradford You're really coming out hard on this guy for no reason.

[@Sarnatuile]

@@Purifycaly Her hair colour in the book is chestnut. How Yennefer calls her is irrelevant.

[@ebola9717]

Yo, we just not gonna talk about my boy, Crach an Craite? I was happy to see him show up

[@AngelicBeatdown]

Excellently done casting!

[@stepmi]

26:53 They also made sure Mousesack's beard was grey in Ciri's timeline, and black when Geralt was at her mother's wedding.

[@blazeaglory]

I thought they were saying "Ball Sack"

[@heraldofoblivion499]

I thought he just got old... Like anyone would

[@stepmi]

@@heraldofoblivion499 Except Calanthe. She never got old. In the video about the time point I linked they're talking about it.

[@heraldofoblivion499]

@@stepmi Guess they ran out of hair dye. Or it's an error. Either way this doesnt mean that we're hopping between timelines.

[@antecikojevic4702]

Do an Angry rant about Entertainment Weekly's The Witcher review. They didn't even watch the show and gave it 0/100.

[@TotallySearch]

Giving this show a 0/100 deserves the death penalty

[@lordmorklen5166]

that move deserved a "journalist card revoked".

[@animegaming4057]

Ante Cikojevic it’s not worth the energy. The gaming world will never be taken seriously, despite the fact, we rival the viewing ship of the NFL, gets paid more than an Anchor, make more money than the movie industry by a country mile, and are mostly independent business creators. But we’re not serious people.

[@garkhan576]

@UCky3vhYRTGTAom10Wh-MdrA You are only entitled to your own opinion after actually watching the whole series. Not give your review having never watched it.

[@mizojyne]

i say fuck those guys and let's not give em anymore attention . Everything that needed to be said has already been said about it .i feel like they did it for publicity which for better or worse they surely did get

[@JoshStobart]

The main issue with Triss is that she was not what the books portrayed. In the books she was young, bubbly and always looking for a way to get into bed with geralt. She was incredibly jealous of Yennefer but also yennefer's friend. It's a complex part that was simply pushed to the side to make room for the three main characters. If they had made 2 seasons or more episodes per season, it might have been better but I understand their impatience to get to the structured part of the book series. As for Yennefer, they actually got her motivations right but it's a bit difficult to follow. She begins as a selfish young sorceress that is hungry for power. Then, as she gains experience as a sorceress, she regrets losing the choice to have children as she can't think of a better way to leave a legacy. This is explained more in the books and she tries a lot of different things to try and regain her fertility. In the end, she gains her child legacy in Ciri.

[@Mr.BluePants]

Yeah, you're right. And imo Triss was so miscast... That actress isn't ugly or anything or that sort (she's actually pretty irl) and she might be very nice and all, but she just doesn't look like Triss, at all. Sure in the books her hair isn't BRIGHT RED like in the games, but it's also not just brown and she's not part black either. A lot of people say "oh but her hair in the books is described to be like chestnuts, so she has brown hair" - well the author is not referring to regular edible brown chestnuts but actually the unedible/toxic horse chestnuts. Those are also brown, but they have a red-ish tone to it, kinda like a mix of chestnut and cherry. So she's basically still a red head, just not cartoonish like in the games. Which is also why Yennefer makes fun of her hair from time to time, it stands out.

[@Forfeitdemeanor]

Yeah. I expected at least a childish pretty girl who had any kind of spark, even if she didnt had a big role she at least had to feel impressive. My guess is that they made her worst to prevent people from enjoying Yeneffer.

[@slimnull8840]

There is so much room for this in season 2...

[@mamuf]

Well, Triss didn't show up in the books until the saga (AFAIK). Her being there in the Striga story is the TV show's way of introducing her early. I think it's part of that the battle of Sodden hill is not directly described in the books, it's just told by other characters or maybe flashbacks (yes, all the mages were there during the battle). But Netflix decided to make it the climax of season 1 so they needed to introduce the more important characters early.

[@BlazingTonic2009]

"Hands above the table when talking about Henry"...lol!

[@adog4661]

I lol'd at that. OJ is going to end up hating anything with Henry Cavill in it because of these two.

[@voinyhelvetti]

As far as Triss goes, I'm holding off my judgement until she gets to Kaer Morhen and has those interactions with Ciri and the rest of the Witchers.

[@stronkbad5007]

Ville Aho This.

[@sandrobsnake]

They would need a full transformation to change the actress into Triss...

[@vadim.ka96]

@@sandrobsnake Nothing a ton of makeup and a wig can't do.

[@sandrobsnake]

@@vadim.ka96 It would need something more... especially because Yen looks very young, and Triss needs to look a little bit younger...

[@taheemlewis7627]

They could always pull an aunt viv and cast a completely different person, skin color and all

[@nimrodjd]

“But he didn’t have white hair” come on Joe!! Witcher 3 had lambert and the other dude at kaer morhen who didn’t have white hair. 🤣

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Right???

[@murfeel1173]

He's gonna need to do a Part 2 with a huge "Things I Forgot" segment; it's crazy how he forgot what all the other Witchers in the game look like. XD

[@FatalFist]

Lambert, Vesemir (because he's gray, not white), and Eskel. There was also the dude Lambert hunted.

[@lewisconnor4788]

nimrodjd Exactly. The only reason Geralt has White Hair is because he underwent further mutations. White hair isn’t something all Witcher’s have.

[@karankenZ]

Joe is a fake money making guy now. He isn't even as passionate about this shit anymore.

[@ashredfern119]

"When are titt*es unnecessary?" 🤣 my new life quote

[@xbriskx]

when does he say this?

[@RandomUser-fl3zo]

I don’t know what they are talking about. There are plenty of titles in the games as well.

[@BrownOpsLeak]

You’re a misogynist bud

[@JoseSilva-wv2sh]

@@BrownOpsLeak your and ignorant idiot bud

[@HeadCannonPrime]

It's "Tis- SAY-ya" in case anyone cares.

[@BallisticGrandpa]

I do. I can't explain why, but I really like her.

[@avivbenzikry3482]

"You have to nail Yennefer" - such words of wisdom...

[@TrebuL]

Geralt did indeed nail Yennefer

[@davideo7286]

For anyone interested in the books but confused with where to start: The Last Wish - Read first. It's a collection of short stories focusing on Geralt and world building. There is an overarching story to the book where Geralt is recovering from injuries at a temple of Melitele. The short stories are fit in between this overarching story. Many of the show episodes derive from here such as Foltest's Striga, Renfri & Stregabore, Geralt meeting Yennifer, and the Unexpected Surprise of Centra. (TW3 fans also meet Crach an Craite in this same story.) The Sword of Destiny: the second collection of short stories. This is where Ciri as a child and Geralt meet and the talk of his Destiny begins. Later near the end of the book, it becomes a fever dream and we learn about the Battle of Sodden etc. Blood of Elves: from here things change a bit. No longer are the books broken into short stories but instead become the continued main story of Nilfgaard, the search for Ciri etc. I've only begun BoE and most of the perspectives have come from Triss or Ciri so far. Geralt is still obviously a major character but the perspective shifts away from him. From what I've heard, TW1 video game from CD Project Red picks up AFTER the main novelization conclusion and alters the ending to continue the story (Geralt losing his memory etc.) So TW 1,2 & 3 games are technically after the books story.

[@GKIRA89]

Thank you, this was very informative! :)

[@Megalomaniakaal]

Only begun blood of elves? -Good luck and stay strong, especially considering the end of that one..-

[@Weaksauceization]

Season of Storms is also set before Blood of Elves

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

It's funny how the show maintained the concept of short stories instead of connect them. They only had one job ffs

[@DarthQueefious]

Best thing about the fight scenes, esp. Geralt's, is that they had long shots. They didn't jump cut every second or 2.

[@imben5008]

That really only happened in a couple fights though, mainly being the fight with Renfri and co. I liked the show, but most of the fights were lackluster. The exception being the one I mentioned.

[@megariver5761]

@@imben5008 ? This show has some of the most real epic fighting scenes I ever seen

[@charlyrob7334]

Truth. All the fights from the rest of the characters, including yennefer, calanthe, and the rest of the soldiers, were cut and edited like in any other movie, but with Geralt the shots were really long, allowing us to see his swordplay. I loved the fight scene in the Court of Queen Calanthe.

[@megariver5761]

@@charlyrob7334 Yess! I recently learned that Geralts actor actually practiced many hours a day for his role including learning real swordsmanship to keep his movement/flow during combat aesticially pleasing and realistic(ish)!

[@xproflipscarab]

The only fight it the show I really didn't like was the ghoul fight in ep 8(sorry if I got the monster name wrong) the scenes editing felt rushed, there would be like 5 of them on top of gerelt then jump cut to him slashing 1 in front of him. Other than that I thought they made all the mages look really lackluster in the finalie despite them being this impressive force but that wasn't really a proper fight scene like the rest just a big magic finale thingy

[@monkeysbmean]

They definitely needed to change the look of human characters like Jaskier and the Queen over time. It would have made the time jumps clearer and easier to figure out sooner.

[@beats995]

MEANMONKEYStheGAMER yea

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

The Queen did. I think she looked younger in the past parts.

[@aaronbrakefield]

I like how other joe is the only one with legs in this...

[@brandonwinn6206]

OJ's little legs have me dying of laughter

[@BIOSHOCKFOXX]

You mean the legs from the background wallpaper they have?

[@brandonwinn6206]

@@BIOSHOCKFOXX yes. The background gives him little legs

[@BIOSHOCKFOXX]

@@brandonwinn6206 I see it differently, because I only see waist and knees, but I don't see the feet, to me it looks differently, but I don't see him with little legs, I simply see him with legs in general.

[@brandonwinn6206]

@@BIOSHOCKFOXX point is I don't think they realize the background gives him legs which just gives us something to laugh at because of how funny it looks tbh

[@jack40734]

shame you can't attached photos to KZbin replies - I tried to put in a screenshot - but no way to upload to comments!

[@TheNeonTheater]

You guys should order the ballsack armor for these reviews

[@JBrander]

Nilfgaardian scrotum armor just like in the books! :v

[@ppsarrakis]

i can just imagine,get cartboard,rolls of toilet paper and glue,then spray paint black.

[@taimermega6447]

Nilfgard penis armor

[@madanevs]

@FM LR Except they did, they couldn't make new Armour and reshoots scenes, that's not realistic, Lauren was already on the subreddit saying it'll be different in S2, and the wardrobe designer's been replaced.

[@MrSkinnyWhale]

@@madanevs that's awesome!

[@alzeal]

Best line of the series Ciri "Who's Yennefer?" Geralt "Uffff!!"

[@rameenz1178]

Lol. Should have said "your new mama"

[@ArchSpawn]

@@rameenz1178 spoiler maybe but Triss is more a mother... at least in the books.

[@nicolasferreiro4492]

@@ArchSpawn Not really, keep reading. And Triss' order of priorities becomes very clear in book 6. Geralt would sent her to hell if he knew.

[@ssk58607]

@@ArchSpawn really?..triss mostly comes off as a selfish person a lot and she doesn't even have that great a chemistry with geralt

[@Megalomaniakaal]

Best line of the series Ciri: "Wheres mom?" Dad: "Uffff!!"

[@Lordoziom]

Season 1: Yennefer's training Season 2: Geralt's training and trials Season 3: Ciri's witcher and mage training Season 4: family ass kicking

[@prochilles1246]

Yennefer never trained. She had those couple of moments where she ate a flower and failed to catch a lightning bolt, but now she is super powerful and can attempt dangerous things like trapping a Djinn. I assume Geralt's training will be similar, I wonder which flower he'll eat, hype.

[@josephwan]

@@prochilles1246 well tbf she did be a Mage for 60 or so years before we see her failed to protect the baby and left her kingdom. So plenty of time for her to improve and study.

[@novusparadium9430]

Like normal everyone missing the part where vesimir called out to young geralt. Vesimir hype for season 2.

[@MH-yc5pr]

Yeah and Kaer Morhen

[@TheAwesomeness1123]

Yeah not sure how anyone missed that

[@Cj-xt6tv]

Yeah and mark hamill said he’d be interested in playing the role. Not sure how I feel about that

[@Jotunn96]

Jay I think he could pull it off well so long as he gets directed properly

[@B-Dad]

Gerald of Riveria Mark Hamill is a great voice actor but a shit one in live action. He’s never been good. Just passable in decent roles. That’s not what you want to shoot for.

[@gamingfactsgg]

"Proto Alpha weapon that can destroy everything" *Laughs in Vilgefortz*

[@nicky00007]

I didn’t have a lot of expectations from this show but this show blew me away wasn’t perfect but is way better than what I expected from it

[@catcherboy96]

Nick theGamer I thought it would be bad and I was so happy to be wrong

[@jojo_n_dat7325]

I expected it to be as good as early Game of Thrones but I was disappointed by my own expectations. It's still an alright show.. not really anticipating the second seasons

[@filthyhernandez8657]

Jojo_N_Dat have you read the book or played the game? Having played all the games made me enjoy the show much more but it wasn’t perfect it definitely had its flaws.

[@jojo_n_dat7325]

@@filthyhernandez8657 This show is my introduction to Witcher. I mean I will watch the next season because I did enjoy this season but I'd be lying if I said I was highly anticipating it. It's definitely fun

[@muhammadawan5074]

I didn't mind the time shifts. It was similar to West world and I like it when the writer trust their audience to be smart enough to follow along especially when it's bingeable and directed towards adults.

[@sandman7826]

Yeah, second only to Westworld season 1 for a really smart time-shift.

[@tudoranalex]

the bad part is that the audience is not smart enough and you get all this complain

[@drstrange2136]

Didn't bother me either ...

[@KairatIbrayev]

other Joe was standing the whole video lol

[@jimbob2252]

Excellent

[@seraby7151]

Lol

[@FrozenAXL]

LOL yes, has beefy legs too. HA! thought i was the only one who saw that

[@LeandrosAmarantidis]

😂

[@donjayce473]

@@FrozenAXL those aren't his legs lol

[@sarsen1470]

"Toss a Coin to Your Witcher" is great, but "The Song Of The White Wolf" is epic.

[@Riel93]

Yeah it is 'more-friendly'

[@StenKilla]

oh fishmonger oh fishmonger quell your daughters' hunger

[@rshs5821]

"Oh valley of PENIS!!"

[@TheLucille7]

The Witcher pulled me out of my GOT depression. Wasn’t perfect but thought it was wonderful

[@euugato12]

It has huge potential

[@rollercoaster478]

i feel your pain :(

[@letsbehonest7380]

Na the show sucked it was just your desperation to cling to a new fantasy that is forcing u to enjoy it

[@jipped18]

Literally said the same thing to people after the 1st episode

[@rollercoaster478]

@@letsbehonest7380 lol that's just your opinion bro, I thought the show was brilliant. Most people don't like the show because of multiple timelines, but I thought it was easy to understand if you pay attention and if you don't get it, you can always read the Wikipedia on what exactly is going on with the timelines. Otherwise the Yennefer storyline was amazing, thrilling and emotional, Geralt helping people, the swordplay and his romance with Yen was interesting and Geralt meeting Ciri was so emotional and perfectly done like what is there not to like?

[@droogbear649]

The main issue for me was the magic cost. In the beginning it drives home ever spell has a cost yet majority of the rest of the series magic is cast with no cost until the final fight. I legit have no idea what it actually cost to cast magic. I did love the show though.

[@daviddyke1]

Yeah that really weirded me out as well, not very consistent.

[@RTuga02]

That's because in the beginning you're watching beginners learning...you can draw energy from living things around you without actually killing them or causing major injuries. Didn't read the books, but that's usually how magic works in a lot of fantasy novels...

[@popcornfilms1]

More so the idea that something can not be created out of nothing

[@JC19171]

That's originally why mages can't have kids. The cost of magic is the price of creating life

[@jchrackable]

"she buried her 4 inches deep.... On a beach." Lmao 😂😂😂

[@mikejohnstonbob935]

it could be a ritual to restore her magic. stregobor looked like the assassin and he was hunting babies born on an eclipse and using their corpses for magic stuff, so yen could be doing the same

[@jchrackable]

@@mikejohnstonbob935 quite possible I suppose. Just funny the way he said it.

[@leyteriskoutounis]

@@mikejohnstonbob935 it wasn't,and that baby will be unburied on night when the tide will go high lol

[@_Daio_]

@@leyteriskoutounis you can get a high tide in the day too.

[@leyteriskoutounis]

@@_Daio_ depends on the weather and what time you consider day like very early in the morning

[@stanfordfeynman2796]

The head mistress was also the voice of Anna in the game. Great performance!

[@mrDeathtrooper]

Charles Mikulas omg really i thought she sonded familiar.

[@navtektv]

Xletalis

[@odesygames]

i thought when yennefer said she didn't have a choice she really meant if she didn't go ahead with the transformation she would be left behind because the royal courts favour beauty and power

[@Weaksauceization]

Sorcerers, Sorceress and Witchers are infertile.

[@wowhowbizarre8176]

Weaksauceization are sorceress infertile because of the beauty transformation or is there another reason b/c I don’t get how Geralt mom was a sorceress?

[@vkdeen7570]

@@wowhowbizarre8176 by the ritual/transformation. modern day sorcercess are made sterile to serve without distraction. it's either that or be an eel......

[@MOHAMEDFATHALAH]

In the books sorceresses get infertile as a side effect of using magic, but still in very rare cases some have children and that's why yen keeps searching for a way. In the series though it is said they are all infertile but yen's case is not only due to magic but for losing her womb to the transformation which means she won't have any chance of bearing

[@vkdeen7570]

@@13redlion13 I wonder if it's partly because magic takes something ... so if your pregnant it can take from the baby thus effectively making u sterile? or something to do with the type of magic?

[@santiagoroman838]

I would be interested to hear a more rounded critique of the casting choice for Tris other than you didn't think she was pretty enough. I feel like beauty is subjective and just because you don't think she's pretty is a satisfying answer for me personally. I definitely see that she had a very minor role in the show but the casting seemed fine. If anything she was less sexualized than in the game.

[@QuinlanLJ]

Dandelion/Jaskier in the books didn't try to steal Geralt's wishes. He thought he was the master of the Djinn. It's perfectly reasonable to say this was the same in the show, although they portrayed it kind of poorly.

[@Crobian]

It seemed kind of funny we just saw Geralt throwing a net into a swamp to obtain an item that allows him to wish for ANYTHING. Seems kinda easy to find for something so ridiculously powerful lol. I mean...can't he just keep fishing for more of them?

[@Drehirth]

that's right I think it's because in the book they were both trying to catch a fish and stumbled upon the Djinn (so it wasn't unreasonable for Dandelion to think he was the master) whereas the show had Geralt specifically looking for it.

[@dch0441]

i thought that was unnecessary too. in the book they're just fishing and happen to find the djinn. the show mad jaskier look way more of an ass that way. instead of just being kind of an ass and making wishes, in the show he is stealing them (he thinks) from geralt, who already said he needed the wish to sleep.

[@Crobian]

@@Drehirth That would've made more sense lol. The way it's shown in the show just makes it seem like you can unlock godmode fishing in swamps lol.

[@Easelgames]

@@Crobian I personally took it as geralt knew their was a gin there for years but didn't want to waste it or risk it unless he had to. Just got to a point where he couldnt resist anymore. So it's less "random" and more "found this ages ago didn't want to mess with it"

[@rasaknnn]

Other Joe hilarious looking like he’s standing with Geralts legs below him.

[@clutchyfinger]

Tissaia's actress was electric on screen.

[@drunktomcruise8224]

Very much, I felt glued to her performances. Everytime she was onscreen I was hooked.

[@Crobian]

@Vicodyn Loved them both

[@ProperlyGaming]

Calanthe was fucking great as well.

[@johnbasterson7938]

She buried the baby where the sea and scavengers would have uncovered and disposed of it in about 2.5 hours. Crabs are savage scavengers.

[@afrozenmind]

Yennifer wanting a child thing didn't bother me at all. It's reasonable to assume she didn't think she'd be able to have a child as a hunchback either. So she believes FATE didn't give her a choice.

[@alexman378]

That would be accurate. Except we see a pretty good looking guy who fell for her, pre-transformation.

[@afrozenmind]

@@alexman378 Good point. I still get where she's coming from though. She wants beauty AND a baby. She wants everything.

[@Crobian]

@@afrozenmind Except the show went out of it's way to show you Yennefer didn't want a baby or to be a housewife, then suddenly it became her life goal an episode later. Was really bizarre.

[@aliashfaque1746]

@@afrozenmind but doesnt change the fact she did had a choice XD wanting everything and then placing a statement like 'i never had a choice you will not understand' is soo hypocritical and pushing petty propaganda of women making sacrifices and not having choices(please dont assume i hate the series because of these nitpicks)

[@Psycorde]

@@afrozenmind She even says that outright: "I want everything"

[@SuperKnight56]

@AngryJoeShow Jaskier is Dandelion in Polish or at least close to it. Most of these characters have not been translated like in the game since it is following the story from the books.

[@arconesaeradan3262]

Jaskier actually translates to Buttercup, but CDPR went with Dandelion in the games in favor of what they thought was a less feminine name.

[@bandinem]

Thank you for telling this i was really confused.

[@bandinem]

BTW if i get it right SPOILER the hedhog guy Ciris dad is Emil Nilfgards king in Witcher 3 right ?

[@literaltruth]

@@arconesaeradan3262 The "Dandelion" translation is actually originally from the English translation of the books. The reason they translated it that way is because his name, Jaskier, in Polish means "Buttercup" but they thought that has a negative connotation in English when used for a man (e.g. "Suck it up, buttercup") so they used another common yellow flower "Dandelion" instead and the games went with that too. I think the problem is that even Dandelion is a kind of silly and effeminate sounding name for a man in a way that Jaskier isn't in Polish culture. So later translations and this series have reverted to just using the Polish name.

[@jamesholt7611]

bandinem correct, Emyr is the emperor and biological father of Ciri! It’s a huge plot in the books

[@glageneral2003]

The fight against the Stryga was also the introductory movie for The Witcher 1.

[@dungvuanh6417]

The Witcher 1 : Master Witcher The Witcher Netflix Witcher is like he didn't spent any of his skill point yet

[@alexman378]

Dung Vuanh If you want to keep the tension, you can’t give your main character all the advantages. The cinematic is meant to be cool and show you something badass. The show’s fight was meant to invoke horror elements, and build some tension. Obviously he wouldn’t die, but it’s more interesting to have your main character getting hurt every now and then, than them being an unstoppable indestructible killing machine the whole time.

[@karolix73]

@@alexman378 I agree but in the book he was controlling the entire fight with stryga - in the series it wasn't obvious at all who was winning. What worries me the most thou is the fact that Vilgefortz ass was kicked by Cahir (the dude chasing Ciri). Early in the saga Vilgefortz almost kills Geralt and breaks multiple of his bones which makes him basically main villain while Cahir is just an above average skilled Knight -at best.

[@dungvuanh6417]

​@@alexman378 It's a joke ....... But, I did read "The last wish" and I can tell you the intro of WT1 is more precisely than Netflix show, even the Striga is exactly look like what Velerad described for Geralt ( he's the one who give Geralt information about this contract, not Triss ) I'm not complain, both scenes are awesome in different way

[@smuessig]

I wish these TV and film reviews were put up on an AJSA Podcast on Spotify or something. Upvote if you want the same so they see.

[@yogiwp_]

I also love that they didn't explain everything and left me questioning and paid much more attention to everything. I hate exposition dumps.

[@JustDanielSon]

DID GET GOOSEBUMPS when Geralt finds Ciri at the end... Just like the game. STRANGE FEELING

[@purgatoriprytania5382]

On Yennefer's beauty: I think that it's the *game* that creates the expectation of peerless beauty when it comes to the sorceresses. In the books, it's clearly stated that the sorceresses use magic to fix imperfections and deformities, but they do not become 'great beauties,' unless they were already beautiful to begin with-e.g., Triss (IIRC).

[@Arobertson1998]

Baffles me how people still call him “Jeralt” even though his name is pronounced every 5 mins on the show ffs Americans

[@heraldofoblivion499]

Sorry for speaking English right!! 😚😚😊🤔🔫

[@archaeologistify]

@@heraldofoblivion499 So Gary is pronounced "Jary"?

[@heraldofoblivion499]

@@archaeologistify Ge or Gi becomes a J sound. G by default is a "g" sound. Garry is till garry. lol *ermoji spam

[@RTXWill]

@@heraldofoblivion499 That's all thrown out the window when it comes to foreign names though. If we applied english logic to everything then half the names in our damn country would be said wrong lmao.

[@heraldofoblivion499]

@@RTXWill They'd be said better! English is the superior language!!

[@f4mousbanana]

The monsters Geralt fought and got bit by was nekkers (as in books, too many of them at once and even a skilled witcher will fall).

[@95kingslayer]

He should of used to Quen lol. I remember that scene in the books. Hell even in W3 nekkers can be dangerous

[@RetiredUnicorn]

@@95kingslayer Nekkers on Deathmarth can be a nightmare. Enemy group sizes can get pretty large and two or three hits will kill you. There can be 15+ attacking you, I found large groups or small enemies to be the hardest.

[@XonixDerps]

He barely uses signs though which kinda bothered me

[@BLeePrit]

@@XonixDerps Signs in the games are actually a lot stronger than they are in the books.

[@XonixDerps]

@@BLeePrit I imagine so but unless they are flat out useless I feel a witcher would still use them during a fight.. especially since hes shown to have use of Aard. I just assumed it was Geralts distaste for magic. Does Quen exist in the short stories?

[@XonixDerps]

"Jaskier and Dandelion are the same name tbh" What I liked about the golden dragon episode is the armor/leather hes wearing has a tint of gold to it as well

[@ph33rmyl33tskillz]

And it has a somewhat scales-like texture as well.

[@Ugnutz]

Not really Jaskier is Polish for the flower Buttercup not Dandelion they changed it for the games as they thought buttercup was not going to work.

[@ph33rmyl33tskillz]

@@Ugnutz Not for the games. The translation of the novels used Dandelion as well.

[@HeadCannonPrime]

@@Ugnutz Because a dude running around in a gritty fantasy world with the name "Buttercup" is not really going to go over well.

[@tiagow95]

I think Geralt falls for Yennefer way too quickly, with no real reason given

[@MrCholoPants3415]

Lots of pacing issues like that in the show. It needed 3 or 4 more episodes but the budget wasn’t enough

[@Carewolf]

It was the same the books, though. Me guess he was also taken by his own wish, when he uses a wish to bind their fates together to save her life and make sure the Djinn doesn't take revenge later for her trying to trap it.

[@tiagow95]

@@Carewolf hope it gets better explained in a later episode then

[@X2muchdip]

I binge watched the show, didn’t know nothing about it prior and this shit was still awesome, plus I’m polish so that’s a bonus

[@Shamino1]

You mean your grandparents are Polish and you've never read a book that wasn't assigned to you in a classroom.

[@segen2274]

Shamino Warhen shut up bitch

[@gwynbleidd13]

I’m Polish and just like you, I liked it. But I had to watch it again in English and try to pretend I never read the books or played the game. Initially I couldn’t focus on the show because of the atrocious and severe interventions in the original story. Driads using crossbows. Ciri leaving Brokilon with help from some unusual Elf kid. Mousesack being killed by a Doppler and then him trying to kidnap Ciri. That is just wrong. Story with Renfri is devoid of its depth. The whole conversation about who is a monster is nearly gone. The fight was supposed to happen on a very crowded market in front of hundreds of people, instead he kills them all in some back alley in under 2 minutes. We are supposed to believe he is the Butcher of Blaviken after seeing this ? The scene where Pavetta is shown has been pauperised as well. We don’t get any of the conversations the islanders had between them, nor do we get the rather excellent conversation Calanthe had with Geralt. The way Calanthe plays and looks I think is very wrong. She acts and looks nothing like the Lioness of Cintra that she was supposed to be. She later begs Geralt . Calanthe ? Begging ? That is way out of line. The story of the jinn looks cheap and so does the story of the dragon hunt. A handful of people walking some mountains who then arrive at a cave to kill the most pathetic looking dragon I have ever seen. It’s just as bad as the Polish Witcher from 2001( which is so bad Siskel and Ebert would have died of an aneurysm have they seen it) They showed none of the amazing conversation and banter between Jaskier, the dwarfs and Geralt. In the book it was a massive escapade, with the king and his troops and we learn so much about the world and characters from those conversations leading up to the battle with the dragon. Instead we get a bastardised version that is worth nothing in terms of showing us the world and it’s relations. It would have more value to remove the dragon and show the other characters. The ever amusing Yarpen Zigrin is a joke. Vea and Tea suddenly speak in common? Borch Three Jackdaws and the zerrikans jump into the abbys ? And not to mention what they did to Triss. Most recognisable thing about her, reason why she was thought to have been killed in the battle of Sodden- her amazing ginger hair is now played by an actress with black hair. That hurt me deeply as I love Triss. One thing I also noticed is that in the space of 8 episodes I haven’t really learned who those Witchers are. I watched an entire season and all I know of the main protagonist is that he is a mutant and that kids who try to become witchers often don’t make it. The Slavic and Celtic mythology in which the world is steeped is somewhat lost on the screen. On my second watch through I was past that pain and I must say, having watched it from a different point of view I was pleased. I think if we believe the show runner and Mr. Baginski we can expect a much improved second season.

[@danielsimchuk8224]

gwynbleidd13 I agree with most of your points, I hope the show blows up so the budget increases for cgi and the season will hopefully have more episodes

[@JanneSala]

Well, obviously they can't take everything from the amazing books into a TV show. The books will be the king, the original, but I really enjoyed the show for what it was!

[@RSVDCN]

They would need 24 eps seasons for that. it would be what it deserves

[@gwynbleidd13]

RSVDCN, you are right sir. Thank God season 2 is secured. Now that season 1 has proven to be such a hit with the audiences I sincerely hope they will unlock more budget for S2

[@FatalFist]

Well think about that for a moment. Geralt slaughters a group of bandits in a back alley where nobody witnesses it, they see only the carnage left in its wake. If we saw that happen in todays society, a butcher is what we would call the guy with a weapon in his hand and covered in blood. So this part made sense, the locals assuming Geralt slaughtered them unprovoked is a logical conclusion given that he himself and the girl (who was likely traumatized to the carnage) are the only witnesses.

[@chee1989]

the orgies are magic tricks done by mages to distract humans entering their keep. Geralt isn't a human, hence it doesn't fool him.

[@Neif181]

while it was done to keep people away, it wasn't an illusion, rather more of a magic-induced hypnosis

[@Crack_the_Skye]

When I caught onto the purpose of the orgies, I was like "that's brilliant." .. Then my wife leaned over, looked right at me and said "Don't even think about it."

[@DD1982]

@@Neif181 That pretty much showed Yen's state of mind at that point in time. Rather than having an illusion orgy, she didn't care enough about people. So she made real people have an orgy.

[@thorgarwulfson9269]

another thing is I love how they did multiple timelines which shows how Geralt does not age normally.

[@naragath2531]

It shocked me how many people didn't notice/understand the different timelines. I have never played the games or read the books and it was still really obvious.

[@wes8723]

Well in the show not even Jaskier ages

[@Tike22]

Naragath it’s because ppl don’t pay attention and talk a lot and use their phones while watching shows like these that demand 100% of your attention

[@tylerbrock4068]

Evidently no one does because any other carry over characters didn’t age either. Like the queen

[@cipangoreng]

When people asked me how the timelines work I just say its like Dunkirk somewhat

[@Heavygusto]

"Yennefer's a character that you had to nail" luuul Freudian.

[@Striker1621]

it took me forever to realize that they where hoping around timelines

[@kysonruskamp2963]

LEGOAHOLIC I read a comment on KZbin about it so I found out early

[@WrathOfEnd]

First time I realized time was off was during the Striga episode when young Foltest and Adda were present for the dance at Aretuza, while Geralt was with older Foltest.

[@blazeaglory]

Yeah it confused me a bit at first as well. I mean, some dates/ locations on the bottom of the screen real quick would have been nice

[@shehryartariq007]

@@WrathOfEnd Same same, they showed the portrait of young foltest and ada in the abandoned castle and suddenly we see them at the dance in aretuza, and suddenly it clicked that yennifer's timeline was in the past, geralt was in the present, and ciri's was in th future, but OMG, the way they stitche these story lines together at the end. WOW.

[@DantesInferno96]

Yeah it was confusing

[@manguy01]

I actually really loved the separate timelines thing. I've never seen the games or books. So I assumed it was the same timeline. Then when the Betrothal feast concludes, it suddenly all clicked for me. And that was REALLY cool. So, the rest of the show, it keeps each storyline in suspense because you never know where Geralt is at any point in time.

[@misterbaker9728]

MicManGuy I agree

[@cypherfavoredsonofmalal7626]

I liked it too, my only issue was it was at times confusing where in the timeline you were. Two were obvious, the third was more ambiguous.

[@CorranHorn84]

It also gives relevance to multiple viewings. An anime I rewatch from time to time is The Twelve Kingdoms. During my first time watching it, I was just as confused as the main character. The anime just starts using dialect and terms right away that you don't get definitions for until quite a few episodes into the first season. Also, certain characters appear that you don't know or understand why are there, until much later in the first season or even in the second season. But once you watch it all, it all makes sense. Once you understand the world and its culture, terms, and history, those earlier episodes make a lot more sense now.... and you appreciate it more.

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

I also loved the separate timelines. It seems everyone has forgotten westward season 1 already...

[@unholy1988]

But it prevents secondary characters like Triss to have a progression. She goes from this nihilistic stance to ¨I want a baby¨. There are moments where dialogs are just too rushed. If you want to do jumps and be each episode auto-conclusive you need to make more episodes to tell the same. They did 1:1 from the first 2 books wasting a lot of materia. Good show bad adaptation. Sometimes the best way to adapt is not to do a 1:1 adaptation since the format is completly different. Production and Henry Canvill carried the show.

[@motoriousss4047]

Triss is supposed to be aged like Yennefer's little sister, or Ciri's older sister. That's how she was portrayed in the books. The actor they cast looked like Yennefer's mother

[@BrownOpsLeak]

Alex A u dumb?

[@narc440]

@@Alexandra.AI. Ciri and Yennefer look nothink like each other.

[@sandrobsnake]

They solve a problem... No need to worry with Triss romance... Yennefer can be the bitch she always is that has no rival in the series... in the games that´s another matter...

[@Alexandra.AI.]

I meant age. Yennefer and Ciri look to be almost the same age. And Henry looks like their older brother, not father. They won't be able to pull the mother, father & daughter dynamic. It's going to be incredibly awkward.

[@Rex-ii2yz]

I watched it a second time and there were many little things that I missed that made it even better. I liked as Geralt was on the wagon from his injuries, the merchant offers him the law of surprise as payment for saving his life. Meanwhile unknow to him, his wife at home was adopting Ciri as their daughter.

[@mikejohnstonbob935]

actually ciri never met geralt til the end. That other girl who met geralt was a ciri-lookalike to give to geralt

[@ShahStark]

Wait what?

[@thomasvale2110]

How do people not realise this?

[@Arobertson1998]

There was even a scene after with Geralt confronting calanthe about it lol do people even watch this show??? It’s so simple smh

[@monkeyking1150]

Yep. Her double went to her while she was playing with her friends in the courtyards. Called her ‘your grace’ not knowing geralt was watching: Which is how he knew the girl being given to him was not the princess ciri.

[@naragath2531]

@@thomasvale2110 Because they have no attention spans and lack basic comprehension skills. They are "watching" this while posting Baby Yoda memes on twitter and claiming that trash show is great.

[@rishabhsingh5694]

Joe, the other witcher did not have white hair because geralt underwent further mutations and is one of a kind.

[@SlimJim9333]

What about vesemir?

[@ppsarrakis]

@@SlimJim9333 i think its his old age.

[@alsomali9403]

@@SlimJim9333 papa ves is the oldest witcher so age made him like that mostly. witchers age but super slowly geralt in the show is most likely 60 years or even older. in the very last book he was well over 100

[@SlimJim9333]

@@alsomali9403 ah ok gotcha i havnt played the games all the way through but im workin on it

[@al3rgen]

@@SlimJim9333 The games are the sequels to the books, the show is based on books.

[@Cj-xt6tv]

Well the Kings 180 is kinda explained when he says that having a granddaughter changed that

[@stormrage3708]

I agree with the clusterfuck of the timelines. I was so confused all the time about what's happening. The armor was disappointing. However, Everything else is perfect to me.

[@navtektv]

Aside from Yen and Geralt. The Lioness of Cintra, Modron Calanthe was my favorite character. She's so good!

[@shanm4295]

You geh

[@MM-vr8rj]

Yup I loved her. She's the perfect example of how you don't necessarily need to match the looks of the character's description, just a decent script and great acting. Triss and Yen lacked in acting and good script for me personally.

[@TheGodlessGamer]

It's "toss a coin TO your witcher" not "toss a coin AT your witcher" lol

[@realdoozy2857]

It's funnier

[@TheGodlessGamer]

@@realdoozy2857 and it's just chubby Geralt after all not the real Geralt lol. Love ya AJ!

[@drakonorkan1372]

concerning yennefer and the choice that she felt was stolen from her: she felt forced to sacrifice her ability to give birth for beauty and perfection because she thought those were the standards to being the king's mage (she was right). it was explained that there was no way she could be the king's personal mage if the reason for her deformity were be discovered (the mages were going to rat her out). thats why her character development is so well developed. when she says "i want everything," it is another way of saying that she does not want to give up anything to gain something else. she wants a baby because she does not want to feel like she had lost anything for the choice that she was forced to make. in general, she is a character that hates loss and only wants to gain.

[@blazeaglory]

Seems so at first but she slowly matures and learns her lessons

[@sandrobsnake]

"she is a character that hates loss and only wants to gain." In the books I don't know, in the games... undoubtedly...It´s worse than some monsters...

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Beauty and perfection, sure... And they hire a horse to play this supposed beauty

[@JayEm1325]

37:58 Alex: She didnt care that much she buried it like 4 inches deep on the beach. Joe: Alex shut up Lmao

[@micks4522]

Joe if you remember. Episode 3 is literally Witcher 1 opening cutscene

[@mamuf]

Yes. And it's literally the first story, called "The Witcher", that Sapkowski wrote and published in the 80's.

[@theredeemerr1262]

“TOSS A COIN TO YOUR WITCHER, O’ VALLEY OF PLENTY”

[@eastwick90]

the Redeemerr hands down best song in the show i cant stop listening to it!

[@thexmacx812]

The slap of 2019

[@PesterFester1966]

O' Valley Of PENIS 😂

[@Kaz6]

About Yenn and her need of having a baby - Her change of perspective about child isnt showed right if you dont look close to every episode. Yenn become sorceress when Foltest was a child, in later episodes Geralt helps old Foltest with his daughter. By that time Geralt is already after Pavetta wedding so it means that there is at least 40+years of beetween episodes. I can guess that for beautiful, lonely, powerfull woman it is very much time to change mind about having a child. In all that time when she was a sorceress Men loved her mainly by her look or power. I guess it's not showed properly in the tv series

[@tadeus7258]

There is a lot it. I guess it's also about her no wanting to feel handicapped in any way ever again. She wants it all.

[@konradknox]

Dear Joe, tossing my 2 cents to the witcher! :D The one big problem I had with the series is the Gold Dragon story. There was the Knight who accompanied Yennefer, named Eykh of Denesle, and in the show they portrayed him as a comic relief moron who poops his pants and dies. In the books he was a very competent and truly honorable knight (he is the Father of Siegfried from the games), and his character survived the story, though had his legs broken by the dragon. Eykh was an antithesis to the witcher Geralt, he was equally stoic, and larger than life, but the character was used to contrast an knight's honor versus a witcher's silent made up codex. He was in fact more courageous and selfless than Geralt was at times in that story, and was a capable fighter. Same with the Reavers. The Reavers were not killed in the books, their backs were broken, but they weren't as evil and as badly punished. The Reavers have to reoccur later on in the plot, but they won't now.

[@johncisney15]

I initially thought the lampooning of his character was funny until they killed him off. I was fucking pissed at the waste of potential.