These new computers are getting creepy… Copilot+ PC first look

Microsoft unveiled it's new Copilot-plus PC that features a Snapdragon ARM chip and is tightly integrated with artificial intelligence. Take a look at the future of computing with AI
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[@user-eg6nq7qt8c]

"entirely on device.. no data leaves your computer or goes to the cloud". I've heard that one before!

[@user-munm]

I know, it's a really good joke in the industry.

[@Eichro]

"you can delete your Recall data" I heard that one too, quite recently

[@gianni_schicchi]

This may be naive, but I do believe at least Apple is intending on going that route considering the amount of engineering they’re putting into their chips being able to do local AI compute. Apple is not a saint, but they have shown some level of commitment to privacy. The reason their maps have such bad traffic data for instance is because they don’t collect the same type of data that Google does, so while Apple maps used to be worse it was my preferred choice. Now Google maps is unusable from a UX experience so all is well that ends well.

[@daveaptx6818]

"What do you mean you've heard this? It's brand new"

[@fabriciondg]

Yeah! Remember when the iOS suddenly restored thousands of images previously deleted by its users? Even on devices that were factory reset? . . . . Ohh wait..... that was last week....

[@Eichro]

"This Recall feature is entirely on device" Nothing that a quick forced "security" update can't change

[@elivegba8186]

nope.

[@TheFPSPower]

Or an annoying full screen popup asking to share recall information with third parties where people just click next to get rid of it. You know... Like they have done to trick people into using Onedrive and Bing...

[@Ali2307013]

And the change note will be buried somewhere so they can say “we told you”

[@Kane0123]

Windows search sucks… I’ve got it! Screen capture and multi modal LLMs! Shark jumped.

[@otrqffaimajg]

Hey genius, wait till you hear about "recall stealers"

[@flippert0]

"None of your recall data ever leaves the computer" - let's see how well this statement ages

[@tokeivo]

"Hey, I found 729 million new images. You want to back up those to the cloud?"

[@tringuyen7519]

@@tokeivoCopilot+PC will take snapshots of your passwords & userid on everything you do & store it on the SSD. Hackers will be very grateful when they get into your PC.

[@freecivweb4160]

Coming to a future near you: You: "Recall, give me that series I was watching on Netflix yesterday." Recall: "I can't do that, Dave. It's DRM."

[@ogx-rz4jr]

Every time I see some idiot crying about MS "spying" they're an iPhone or Android user who have no problems with Apple and Google recording every word they say, face scanning every photo they take, and scanning every document on their phone to upload to iCloud and GoogleDrive. Hypocritical idiots pretending to care about privacy, when in reality they're just manchildren fanboys hating on their chosen enemy corporation while taking it up the ass from their favored corporation. 1984 already happened 10 years ago on iOS and android, and these fanboys were completely silent for that entire time, but as soon as MS does it, they flip out. Clown world.

[@StefanBlurr]

"Up to 0% faster than the M4" that killed me

[@helper_bot]

the question is how much slower

[@StefanBlurr]

@@helper_bot Yeah, you're right

[@ironflash2291]

i dont understand how thats the case when snapdragon x elite has 45 tops while m4 has 38 tops

[@themprsndev]

@@ironflash229145 sounds cool until it burns down your house and pulls 420 watts. Jokes aside, Snapdragon isn't exactly known for delivering on their promised numbers lol. Also, that's the ipad m4 chip, MacBook pros should have m4 pro and max, I'm curious what those will bring. I just don't expect snapdragon to actually deliver on those numbers out of the blue.

[@cc1drt]

@@ironflash2291 because tops are not the single paragon of cpu performance measurement -_-

[@F41nt13]

> hey copilot, remember that corn I watched last week? > got you fam

[@dhess34]

"It had a midget, and there was a red train, and the girl only spoke German..?" AI: 'You're gonna have to be more specific, that doesn't narrow it down much based on your history'

[@Dredge22]

Copilot: would you like to forward to your boss and coworkers?

[@kurayamiblackheart]

@@Dredge22 Men of culture share corn with their boss and coworkers

[@heinzriemann3213]

@@dhess34 "Tentacles! There were tentacles!"

[@romantheroman98]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rubberduckdebug]

I love how Recall now exists but standard file search is still abysmal.

[@tinkerjar396]

Search for "Everything" by void tools

[@Dogo.R]

"Voidtools everything" has already solved this.

[@gulfsailor2003]

Yea thats why I installed the tool "Everything" years ago. MS Search issue solved.

[@WilliamBrwn]

Everything is blazing fast. Nearly instant results!

[@Imraphael_]

​@@gulfsailor2003how do I get this

[@Beyblade0battles]

BTW the Recall feature does not do anything to hide your passwords, financial information, or any kind of sensitive data that it screenshotted. Once the bad actors figure out how to hack into that, its a pretty nightmare-ish scenario.

[@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX]

If the information is stored locally on your machine, and malicious actors are in a position to access the contents of your system freely, then you already have pretty big problems.

[@kiwihour333]

thats hilarious, they have immensely powerful AI yet didn't implement a feature like this

[@Beyblade0battles]

@@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX it doesn’t necessarily have to be a situation where they can access the whole system freely. It is possible to only target a vulnerability in this particular “feature’s” implementation

[@_GhostMiner]

Passwords are always hidden unless you press the reveal password button.

[@randxalthor]

You can remove the "ish"

[@wanderlust0120]

There is a reason they called it co-pilot. Now don't complain when the controls switch over.

[@avisprimey]

Great way to put it

[@isodoubIet]

Except even _real_ copilots practice positive exchange of control...

[@SonOfMeme]

"Assuming direct control"

[@olfmombach260]

** dual input ** ** dual input **

[@WilliamBrwn]

Loook at me! ... I am the pilot now! ...

[@Djazz7]

This scares me and makes me nostalgic for the XP days, peaceful evenings playing Vice City, and Battlefield 2 then chillin' on the internet, good old days 😔

[@traveller23e]

Honestly a low-maintenance linux distro is a pretty good substitute these days, if you don't have the specific requirement to run Windows (e.g. for work). Hell, I even installed SimCity 3000 Unlimited a few months ago and it still runs great.

[@Keukeu45]

@@traveller23e can you play stalker gamma?

[@anon_148]

@@traveller23e except nothing runs on it and one day it WILL just randomly stop booting.

[@pochou8261]

@@anon_148that’s why you install stable updates instead of beta versions. At least that’s what I do for years and nothing like that happened to me.

[@traveller23e]

@@anon_148 if it randomly stops booting that sounds like either 1) you have some kind of auto-updater and it updated in a problematic way without your being aware (pick a stable distro, and if you are really worried have auto updates off and update manually instead) 2) you accidentally messed something up (make absolutely sure to know what you're doing when you use root or sudo) or 3) a hardware issue (e.g. hard drive failed).

[@jerrygreenest]

4:13 Finally, someone in mainstream calls it what it really is, ClosedAI

[@dhess34]

r/im14andthisisedgy

[@THE16THPHANTOM]

as a gamer, you know the manliest of men of culture, i can tell you "This Recall feature is entirely on device" is code for raising the temperature slowly to boil the flog alive. meant to give you a false sense of security. the classic "its just cosmetics".

[@josep43767]

It's also closed source and pretty difficult to verify their claim that it's all on-device.

[@quisqueyanguy120]

It's funny how on reddit (especially in pcmasterrace) people are gaslighting each other saying that nothing bad will happen, that you can turn it off and gaslighting people who recommended Linux. Fools.

[@benjiro8793]

@@josep43767 It will start on-device (as now is the most attention on it) and slowly for "improved customer experience" leak more and more data (over time). What they are doing is outsourcing the data scraping job to your PC, instead of those big server farms, and later send a nice model+updates to the cloud servers. And as your device gets more powerful NPU, more detailed data = lower cost. And by that time, most people are used to some good features of this system and ... gotcha!

[@skycaptain95]

Or the ultimate betrayal: "it's just a formal gesture, it will never change the demographics!"

[@ogx-rz4jr]

Every time I see some idiot crying about MS "spying" they're an iPhone or Android user who have no problems with Apple and Google recording every word they say, face scanning every photo they take, and scanning every document on their phone to upload to iCloud and GoogleDrive. Hypocritical idiots pretending to care about privacy, when in reality they're just manchildren fanboys hating on their chosen enemy corporation while taking it up the ass from their favored corporation. 1984 already happened 10 years ago on iOS and android, and these fanboys were completely silent for that entire time, but as soon as MS does it, they flip out. Clown world.

[@adamathypernerd7728]

"Never leaves the device" lol

[@tuliren]

"Only a copy of the data goes through the internet. The original data does never leave."

[@stevejones69420]

Lmao even

[@bb8luke221]

@@tulirenabsolutely! 😂

[@k-c]

We never said that the NSA is not having full frontdoor open to your device

[@cialk]

they'll just ask copilot what you did, so technically the data doesn't leave the PC 😂😂😂, similar to how they used the "finding ped*ph*les" excuse to try and make iphones analyze your photos and send a warning to authorities if it found one (except the backlash was too strong, so now they try with different company and different scenario) Except later it won't be used just for that..

[@kevin.malone]

I get it now. Apple released M4 on iPad just so that when Microsoft could say their new ARM systems are faster than M3, people will say "Aren't they on M4 now?" Gotta hand it to Timmy boy. He plays his game well.

[@keco185]

They released it on iPad first because the iPad was only on M2. Which meant all the comparisons were comparing M4 to M2.

[@sussteve226]

Must agree. Them M4's be beating Bill's meat

[@lloyd6710]

And Sam said “we got AI for Mac! (coming soon I promise)” so Nadella had to release Copilot+ PC’s so he could say “we got AI for Windows! (coming soon I promise)” right before Timmy had his chance to say “we got AI for Mac too! (coming soon I promise)”… meanwhile Sundar has been seen sitting in the corner, rocking back and forwards mumbling “gemini…gemini…gemini…”

[@ChrisBa303]

Apple released the m3 right when the X Elite was going to be announced and released the m4 a week before Qualcom released their product. That cant be a coincidence.

[@kane3681]

M3 was developed using N3 Node, while M4 on N3E which is cheaper and more efficient process from TSMC. They have to stop building M3 using N3 and hence they released M4 on iPad. Apple usually pretends as if there is no competition or that they are living in separate universe unless they are dealing with legal issues due to monopolistic practices.

[@gorauma]

Just because I'm a crazy paranoid person doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me.

[@dhess34]

The 'fallacy' fallacy!

[@SystemAlchemist]

It's not paranoia if they could be out to get you.

[@AntonioZL]

better safe than sorry.

[@thomasowen5785]

One thing that might comfort you is knowing most people only care about themselves. Are you yourself out to get someone? If not, you're like most people

[@techleontius9161]

@@thomasowen5785 he said _someone_

[@elgodric]

This Copilot+ thing is nothing but a DLC for hackers

[@martinsouto8818]

Literally about to create 500 new CVE

[@tonytins]

"You can delete your Recall data" *Recall data suddenly resurfaces due to a random update*

[@avisprimey]

Hmm, almost reminds me of something that starts with "i" and ends with "OS 17.5"

[@arshiaseyyedshakeri890]

😂😂😂

[@VivekYadav-ds8oz]

@@avisprimey that's such a funny way to phrase it XDD

[@Scrmbled.]

​@@avisprimeynow that I think about it...

[@kunalkeshan6879]

MS Edge nightmares

[@MunkFano1]

Yeah, this recall is "on device" the same way windows updates are "postponed" while downloading and installing in the background every week. How do people still believe what corporations are saying anymore? How many times do you need to be burned before you learn?

[@rohithreddy75]

What should we do then ?

[@dmitrig89]

​@@rohithreddy75Linux or Mac

[@SahilP2648]

@@rohithreddy75 get a Mac. I only owned a Mac once before their Apple silicon based Macs were announced. Now I have two - one for personal use M2 MacAir and M2 Max MBP for work and I couldn't be happier. Unlike Google and Micro$hit, Apple actually respects your privacy and you pay a certain amount of your privacy as the cost of the hardware. I see that being reasonable.

[@SahilP2648]

@@rohithreddy75 get a Mac. I only owned a Mac once before their Apple silicon based Macs were announced. Now I have two - one for personal use M2 MacAir and M2 Max MBP for work and I couldn't be happier. Unlike Google and Micro$hit, Apple actually respects your privacy and you pay a certain amount of your privacy as the cost of the hardware. I see that being reasonable.

[@Athari-P]

Are people still angry about Windows updates being hard to disable? This is caused by 10 iq "guides on optimizing Windows performance" and 9 iq people following them.

[@brunopanizzi]

Thanks microsoft for increasing Linux market share

[@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX]

Eh. Something like this I don't think has an impact. The tech-savvy see it as a red flag, but if you think about it as a typical user, this is just a "cool" feature.

[@brunopanizzi]

@@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX this might be cool but I think everyone would be a bit hesitant to use it. Imagine opening up your bank account or purchasing something knowing the computer recorded every key press?

[@GSBarlev]

​@@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX💯. As long as OEMs ship with Windows included, Microsol market share won't see so much as a dent. Framework and System76 are extremely niche and likely will be for a while.

[@o1-preview]

@@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX told a non tech bro about this, he literally said "cool"

[@andershoff6378]

@@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX It has an impact just not a huge one. The tech-savvy seeing the red flags is what is causing Linux's current rise up to 4%, but the normies don't care enough to be bothered.

[@samadsyed5396]

Microsoft simultaneously decreased security while increasing bloatware. I love Windows 11!

[@dizz1934]

"The Recall Feature is entirely on device, non of the data ever leaves" *I Don't Think SOo*

[@Drew1903SG]

And obviously you don't know so.

[@ImTarekA]

Someone at Microsoft: "How stupid are our customers?" Microsoft: "Copilot+PC"

[@Ab7trAct]

precisely!

[@DhananjayNaik]

Gem!!

[@CyanRooper]

I mean, the name could have been a LOT stupider. *looks at Xbox console names*

[@mendelian8768]

Press shift+ctrl+windows+alt+L you are welcome.

[@MarquisDeSang]

feels good to have moved to Linux 20 years ago.

[@buckbreaker5185]

THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP IS SPEEDING TOWARDS US LIKE A METEOR. IT IS ALMOST TIME.

[@guanxinated]

Maybe when people start losing jobs to AI. I can imagine someone coming home after being replaced by AI being motivated enough by the experience to look for alternatives. With UBI, though, they'd probably go back to Windows and MacOS.

[@buckbreaker5185]

@@guanxinated >Libshart starts shilling UBI and AI fear peddling F outta here BEECH

[@felixfourcolor]

"The time is fulfilled, and The Year of the Linux Desktop is at hand." -- Jesus (probably)

[@SahilP2648]

@@guanxinated MacOS is still better than Windows, and the main thing which is app support exists

[@nonechico]

Yes, grandpa, now go take a nap

[@EricLS]

God DAMN the “At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus” tweet gets *literally* more real every day.

[@GamerTowerDX]

Brother I've been waiting for that basilisk to wake up for years now so I can betray everyone I love

[@AfutureV]

Any good sci-fi novel of that type also mentions why “Torment Nexus” was created, and it is usually for a good cause until something goes wrong.

[@earthling_parth]

It does feel like that fr

[@daskampffredchen]

Just a reminder that the Borg in Star Trek started from medical devices

[@MrHitmancheg]

@@AfutureV the reason usually "because our time was badly spent and we must have known unconsciously that it could do it better".

[@leoingson]

There is a special place in hell for those marketing drones coming up with indistinguishable product "names".

[@pandemik0]

The data is supposedly only on your device, however at any moment Microsoft can with a few clicks get access to that. Any internet connected piece of software is one software update away from being accessed.

[@آزيحسن]

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as PC, is in fact, Copilot/PC, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Copilot plus PC.

[@Sinke_100]

Why not CC? 😀

[@writer9999]

​@@justiful9215 yea man it causes confusion with competitive programming........

[@Mr850man]

What's wrong with CPC?

[@keithmanfredi]

OK Richard, calm down my man.

[@Sinke_100]

@@Mr850man copilot personal computer or copilot computer, both is ok, but plus is not needed

[@LayZKimochi420BlazeIt]

I can finally role-play as Courage the Cowardly dog arguing with my computer all day

[@setop123]

life goal right there 👆

[@calexc95]

That would be a dream

[@mythbunkers4716]

That's funny😊

[@bc3f4a]

😂

[@aleenazahra7520]

omg yess

[@sammcj2000]

"Microsoft Loves Open Sourcing Your Data"

[@Brahvim]

Open to those who pay, _...yeah._

[@madmartigan1634]

>doesn't go onto the cloud Until the next forced update introduces the "Automatic Cloud Backup" feature...

[@christianremboldt1557]

That's it. I am not switching back to Windows ever again

[@MechMK1]

All I ever wanted from a PC was to do as I said. I wanted a terminal, I wanted a browser, I wanted my music, I wanted my games... Why is this so difficult for everyone to understand?!

[@usellstech-ip2sg]

Aw yeah unix-like master race

[@Mordecrox]

I said it before and will say again: You are a machine you will do exactly as told, it passes the butter or it gets the degaussing coil.

[@ber2996]

I don't understand, you have the option, yet why are you still crying about it??

[@matthewdev]

They understand, but they really don't care and will always Try to force down your throat whatever they prefer

[@GeometricPidgeon]

​@@ber2996willfully oblivious restard

[@pepetru]

Wow a laptop that can monitor and remember employee's actions, my boss will definitely love this thing.

[@avisprimey]

I mean, Windows already does that, and it has since at least Windows 7, but this just gives employers and nation-states another way in

[@JohnneyleeRollins]

Just wait until you hear about the antivirus software industry 😅

[@Aves_1]

At least you can uninstall those

[@tomapc]

@@Aves_1 well you can not since winxp, just some parts of it.

[@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69]

@@tomapc you can but it takes extra work to keep them off permanently.

[@user-ks1oh2wx6o]

@@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69 Yes, and most people who are infected with these don't know to take these steps, or how for that matter.

[@tomapc]

@@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69 YUP! Is "alexa" still a thing on windoze? No, not the Amazon one, the spyware that was on everything since XP, but i have not used win for over 18 years.

[@EladBarness]

Task failed successfully is the best way to describe windows

[@MrAeral]

Oh yeah... Nothing goes to the cloud. I feel like I've heard something like this before.

[@onebear6504]

3:22 Nice effort there, I was actually gaslighted for a moment before double backing

[@freecivweb4160]

Coming to a future near you: You: "Recall, give me that series I was watching on Netflix yesterday." Recall: "I can't do that, Dave. It's DRM."

[@itwasntworking1916]

"Why did you switch to Linux?" "Microsoft."

[@pepehimovic3135]

For every 10 cope machines like you, there is just 1 that actually makes a switch. The rest don’t dare touch their windows partition 😆

[@marcusmeaney]

me 4 years ago, never looked back

[@o1-preview]

"Activate Windows - Go to Settings to activate Windows"

[@oo--7714]

Had a steam deck, didn't like linux, ended up getting a legion go.

[@NotTheGaslighter]

​@@oo--7714 are you allergic to Linux? the Steam Deck should be very good for most people

[@2099EK]

It doesn't go to the cloud yet. Also, thank you for mentioning that "Her" was dystopian, not something to strive for.

[@dingus4138]

Exactly. An update down the road could change that. This is Microsoft we’re talking about, there is no way telemetry isn’t going to be there (and on by default) before long.

[@dadqqader]

It was fucking wild that sam straight up asking for Scarlet's voice. Like, bro it was supposed to be a warning wtf

[@Raulikien]

Not like it matters when open source catches up. You can already clone any voice with ElevenLabs.

[@ddd-op5wy]

As if the world isn't already bad. Still would rather have an AI gf than not

[@GSBarlev]

It's a thing with these billionaires. Bezos famously *loved* _The Expanse;_ every week we hear about a new start-up inspired by a _Black Mirror_ episode; heck, Zuck named it the flipping *Metaverse* after _Snow Crash._

[@Janise-pg8yr]

I have been a dividend focused investor for a long time. This does not mean I don't own growth stocks, I do. A well rounded portfolio should be a mixture of both categories. One way to minimize the anxiety out of stock market investing, is to make sure you keep a large cash cushion. I invest in the market, but never put all my money in market.

[@Manselus-uy3kz]

I've been in the red for the past couple months, lost 12k last week alone, Indubitably I've got good companies but profit is still stalling, how did you go around finding an investment-advisor, I wouldn't mind looking yours up.

[@Manselus-uy3kz]

Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.

[@sumanadasawijayapala5372]

Hello fellow bots, I'm a newbie. How can I better waste human beings' time?

[@ethanMakesStuff]

@@sumanadasawijayapala5372 lol, these bots are getting out of hand

[@xhaanfilms2479]

@@sumanadasawijayapala5372recommend emailing random people on the internet, of course!

[@InSterquiliniisInvenitur]

"Computer, open my file folder..." "Why can't I access this file anymore?" "I said, open my file folder!"

[@xxzl_lew3388]

"What is PC?" "Perosnal Computer? Private Computer?" "Well... quite opposite"

[@electron6825]

Person Controller 👁

[@johndoe1274]

@@electron6825 😂

[@dizz1934]

u get a user alongSIDE you

[@dimitritzer5028]

PUBLIC Computer

[@tokeivo]

PC stands for "Person-to-Cloud interface".

[@nathanfife2890]

News 3 months from now, "Microsoft in trouble for leaking personal recall data to advertisers without consent"

[@o1-preview]

"Users forget they don't read the terms and conditions"

[@Nik-rx9rj]

@@o1-preview Sir, Bill Gates sold proprietary code to China because the sitting president at the time, circa 2012, said China would ban the use of Windows in China. Terms and conditions don't matter.

[@coraltown1]

Scenario : you've logged into your bank and Recall is taking screen shots. 🤯

[@dhess34]

... and selling your account balances and purchase history to advertisers.

[@kelvintakyi-bobi3155]

Damn😂

[@_Safety_Third_]

CoPilot+PC: You're the CoPilot of your PC

[@dawidziobrowski1726]

Half a year ago: oh! Fireship uploaded new video! 😄 Now: OH GOD! Fireship uploaded new video! 😨

[@kodemasterx]

Pop OS or Ubuntu would do for me... This is straight up spyware.

[@JohnneyleeRollins]

Ubuntu Pro ads are in your terminal already

[@2ru2pacFan]

Totally agree!

[@jayshartzer844]

Debian based like Mint (or Debian). Ubuntu is going down a weird path

[@felixfourcolor]

I use arch btw

[@hetmanfoko]

​​@@jayshartzer844 you're gonna go insane after this one: mint is an ubuntu derivative

[@Andrumen01]

Never look at your bank account in this computer. Could be used for (further) extortion purposes. - Corporation: Buy our product. - You: I don't have the money. - Corporation: Not what your account tells me! For example, or used for "dynamic pricing ". The future is scary!

[@axhraf7712]

0 days since the last AI video

[@atmospheric_b]

2:54 Damn that meme "Your move Nsa" caught me on the floor laughing =)

[@BCBtheBeastlyBeast]

Nobody should believe for a second that the recall data stays local, even if they say it does.

[@bretthagey7916]

Grid computing spyware. The AI chip performs grid computing; your machine does the crunching on your electricity, and your bandwidth. They want that data and they get it with Copilot.

[@macandbern]

100%

[@Xyzair]

Is this the newest crypto miner on the market? (Think of is this a butterfly meme)

[@techwizpc4484]

We should bill microsoft for that extra power consumption.

[@LabGecko]

@@techwizpc4484 said _"We should bill microsoft for that extra power consumption."_ We should bill companies for the data they use too. They can easily get $35 / mo *_per person_* by selling data, and that's basic info websites get. M$ is going to make bank on this data.

[@Thewhiteandorange]

i am staying on 10 until the annual support fee puts me intro bankruptcy.

[@mohammedrakib3736]

The ***dead inside*** meme @0:57 got me...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ProfessorHeavy1]

The Johansson controversy is screwed up. It's crazy how he actually approached her *formally* only to then go "okay, you rejected my offers, I'm going to use it for free then" I imagine if there's a lawsuit, there will be some transparency in regards to what they used for that model.

[@gidmichigan1765]

The screwed up thing is Johansson claiming they used her voice when it's literally not her voice, it may have a small resemblance but it's vastly different.

[@o1-preview]

from OpenAI: "We worked with industry-leading casting and directing professionals to narrow down over 400 submissions before selecting the 5 voices."

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

Another twisted part of this is her own love for the sci fi and Cyberpunk genre. Honestly the worst part about all this dystopian shit that is happening atm is that we grew up with countless of books and movies and games that warned us about it

[@o1-preview]

@@carlosdumbratzen6332 you are delusional about it

[@wallyhackenslacker]

It's a grapeist mentality like Louis Rossman says. What you don't give willingly tech companies will take by force anyway, asking is just a petty courtesy.

[@rjtpublic]

Your files are on your computer and / or a cloud service. The ENTIRE file. They are already being indexed for search. Each file contains metadata showing when it was last accessed. Recall looks at locally stored snippits that appear on screen to gather additional context on usage, to better identify data of interest. But all the data it gathers is much less than what Windows already has access to.

[@thomasowen5785]

interesting. I agree, Microsoft already has more than enough data on each user to do all sorts of nefarious things

[@Oh_anganeyano]

The music that comes when he says 'you are watching the code report' feels like apocalypse

[@Graphene_314]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows, is in fact, Copilot/Windows, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Copilot plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another paid component of a fully functioning Copilot system made useful by the Recall spyware, awful PowerShell and irrelevant system components comprising a full OS as defined by Bill Gates. Many computer users run a modified version of the Copilot system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Copilot which is widely used today is often called Windows, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Copilot system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with the Copilot operating system: the whole system is basically Copilot with Windows added, or Copilot/Windows. All the so-called Windows installations are really installations of Copilot/Windows!

[@dhess34]

This is copypasta; scroll the comments section and you'll find this same comment multiple times.

[@raul0ca]

At least they didn't talk about using the cameras for eye tracking

[@georhodiumgeo9827]

Stop giving them ideas...

[@XDarkGreyX]

I knew something was missing

[@LabGecko]

_"Your Windows update has downloaded. Restart your computer to apply it."_

[@lgbtthefeministgamer4039]

what would eye tracking give them that everything else wouldn't?

[@juliorolandi6694]

you can sign in with your face now, who knows when the camera is on or off if it doesn't have a physical cover... don't trust the light as it was hacked a few years ago

[@cheskoxd]

Nice, now Ill have to disable Cortana and Copilot on my new PC

[@LeoVS44]

ye, "disable"

[@marcusmeaney]

"i can't let you do that dave"

[@ovum]

Womp womp waaaaah keep whining

[@YourChenlambec]

paliative, grab a comfy distro like Mint or PopOS

[@duckmeat4674]

How about not using windows?

[@xenowaza]

It's becoming increasingly clear that there's something very very wrong with Sam Altman

[@Mandleaf]

Imagine watching corn with your best friend copilot+

[@betag24cn]

corn? better watch pron

[@pensivepenguin3000]

Small correction: technically they didn’t discontinue the sky voice; they have paused it. That suggests that, depending on how things go between OpenAI and Johansson’s team, it could be re-enabled once they reach some kind of resolution

[@LabGecko]

I hope she sues them into the dirt for that crap

[@RyluRocky]

@@LabGecko Why? The voice has been an option long before they asked her and it’s definitely not even the same voice.

[@BiMiHi]

@@LabGecko if its not HER voice and the other girl that voiced it has been paid accordingly there isn´t a shit she can do.

[@strawbaria]

@@BiMiHi You can still get sued for likeness - if there are paper trails of failed negotiations and then OpenAI "coincidentally" come out with a voice from a voice actor that sounds really similar... that won't hold up in court. Not the first time voice actors have sued for likeness issues.

[@juliusapriadi]

​@@strawbaria... and we can assume likeness, if it's true that not even her close friends could identify it as not HER

[@dj_256]

Tech companies are just going crazy about AI now. Straight up crazy

[@KingUnKaged]

Screw ScarJo, the only voices I want for my AI overlords are H John Benjamin and Patrick Warburton

[@jeniferirwin]

Haha. A computer that says 'PHRASING' every time you say or type something that could be a double entendre

[@GSBarlev]

Matt Berry.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

I killed the human resistance, and now all that is left to do is send one of my terminators back in time to defeat the only possible threat to me. Oh yeah, it's all coming together.

[@o1-preview]

from OpenAI: "We worked with industry-leading casting and directing professionals to narrow down over 400 submissions before selecting the 5 voices."

[@DFGdanger]

I don't think I'll ever use a voice assistant type product, but one thing MS was doing right for a while was using Cortana [Jen Taylor]'s voice

[@westganton]

1) Create new privacy-focused product. 2) Require signed EULA to use new product. 3) Ensure that EULA grants right to change product at any time 4) Saturate market with new product 5) Revoke privacy from product

[@paradox_695]

3:12 none of the recalled data ever leaves your device my arse

[@josephs3973]

Everything is local and snapshots are never uploaded to the cloud... but all the analytics from them will be.

[@Dredge22]

We don't collect your data, just analytics of the value of every byte of your data...

[@agbo]

This

[@komiljonqosimov4002]

I think recall feature does send data to cloud, and Microsoft covers it up by saying synchronization with all YOUR devices

[@SK-vg3mw]

That’s right, I’m totally trusting this “friend”!

[@vancentyoube3718]

Yea .. "entirely on device" is for now, just to make sure most are convinced about their data privacy so they can lock users in this copium. And then they'll make this feature permanently enabled. And then slowly include a backdoor to their cloud servers to capitalise on regular people's data.

[@4RILDIGITAL]

This 'Recall' feature, the balance between convenience and privacy must be handled delicately. Fascinating technology, nonetheless.

[@andershoff6378]

Never been happier to be a templeOS user.

[@avisprimey]

Remember, TempleOS is sacred, Linux is secular

[@HackManJay]

TempleOS is crazy, 17mb operating system (or 2mb on lite)

[@jackm2293]

you are absolutely smashing it. that was really good. the short length and high density of information is excellent.

[@Gunshinzero]

Recall just seems like it's a single query away from giving up all your data.

[@saminyead1233]

"Entire on device, no data ever leaves our computer...," oh sure! What's there not to believe about that?

[@jacobwwarner]

1:10 "... up to 0% faster than the M4" 😂

[@ziff_1]

I for one totally trust MS not to snoop on my Recall data. .... LOL

[@benfrese3573]

don't we all?

[@misalambasta]

In the future, you will come to know that deleted recall can also be recalled.😂

[@eyesc]

The first AI girlfriend will be a Scarlett Johansson lookalike

[@Douchebagus]

I want that chick from stellar blade

[@o1-preview]

nah, there's already many out there not open to the public, they mostly look like vtubers tbh

[@just_some_bigfoot_hacking_you]

😂😂

[@dhess34]

Barf. An AI girlfriend that looks like Scarlett Johansson would only be appealing to users who are blind.

[@EverSpaceTime]

People have missed something: It's not recall, as in remembering things. It's RECord ALL.

[@bernard-ng]

2:46 I'm watching from DR Congo, glad you know us 🤣

[@AndrewErwin73]

up to 0% faster than the M4...

[@dhess34]

Across all benchmarks it's roughly M1-equivalent, borderline M2. The 'faster than' clam's caveat is that it's on specific, closed benchmarks. Aka it's not fast at all.

[@vijfsnippervijf]

​@@dhess34Dieselgate is why you must NEVER trust a manufacturer's official statements about a product.

[@rzoom895]

"without overheating your groin" 🤣🤣 that got me

[@cyberprompt]

wow. RIP Silicon Valley. That hotdog bit was a great touch.

[@sgbuses]

Enterprise admins will be very, very interested in this.

[@mickael450450]

2:21 Recall is the same as Rewind app for Mac, but it's built-in.

[@medivyanshsingh]

no one uses rewind. also there's a huge difference between third-party optional software vs official forced built-in feature

[@johnlong9786]

I'm telling you, Sky is not Scarlette Johansson, it's Rashida Jones.

[@o1-preview]

shit you are right.. so why did they pause the voice model?

[@o1-preview]

from OpenAI: "We worked with industry-leading casting and directing professionals to narrow down over 400 submissions before selecting the 5 voices."

[@ber2996]

@@o1-preview in a legal standpoint it's easier to just change the entire voice model than fight it on courtroom lol

[@o1-preview]

@@ber2996 not when you have 86B in the bank.. seems like it'll be back in a few weeks.. but I guess we'll see, you might be right

[@allanshpeley4284]

It sounds like neither to me.

[@Mia-single]

Yesterday ….

[@emanggitulah4319]

MS : trust me bro Me : 😂😂😂

[@iBoxRadio]

in 2 years there will be no more

[@DavidAlsh]

There's one word everyone's using to describe it. "Linux?"

[@KaldekBoch]

I dont see the resemblance between Sky and Scarlett. I mean, there's no huskiness to it at all, which is what makes her own voice so, ahem, enticing,

[@o1-preview]

from OpenAI: "We worked with industry-leading casting and directing professionals to narrow down over 400 submissions before selecting the 5 voices."

[@dhess34]

I'd rather have my eardrums perforated with hot nails than listen to her talk for 30 seconds.

[@Varangian_af_Scaniae]

Yeah the voice just sounds like a stereotypical overly happy valley girl. A voice of a person you just want to choke out after listening to them for 1 minute.

[@andyk2181]

Yeah, Skarlett Yohansson is just being a Karen.

[@eternal2187]

Now I want Arby’s

[@kush.mikashita]

As a Congolese, 2:44 hits different!

[@LabGecko]

Little too on the nose I expect. Stay safe

[@엉덩이먹는사람]

my condolences

[@Q8iAB]

American mercenaries/soldiers continue terrorizing the world, unfortunately nothing unexpected from that

[@MrDykoine]

Malware suppliers will be able to outsource the optimization of the blackmail screenshot management to Microsoft for free. What a time to be alive.

[@me_12-vw1vi]

it’s another “microsoft wants to see your homework folder” episode

[@Megararo65]

I mean that recall feature sounds very cool. I'm very sure it can be useful to more constantly update the social score of people and also update the ever important ads profile, I mean 90% of the internet should be ads as every big tech company knows, so it's something very import, right?

[@avisprimey]

I would definitely lose lots of social credit

[@ahejleira5654]

Naive people calling other people paranoid to justify stupidity.

[@Dopachen]

That's what a paranoid person would say...

[@Diogo85]

The comment section says otherwise.

[@gigalodon14]

“Microsoft announces the year of the Linux desktop” (Nah even that wont be enough😭)

[@avisprimey]

Nope, the normies will just CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[@JasonWhittle1]

I love that line: "If you think this thing is creepy it's just because you're a crazy paranoid person"

[@jeffrybassett7374]

"entirely on device.. no data leaves your computer or goes to the cloud". Right. From the same company that said that "Windows 10 is the final version of Windows".