Animation Cels: The History, Collecting, and Preservation of a Lost Art Form

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@BBCool-9576
@BBCool-9576 3 ай бұрын
NEScRETRO is the opposite of a content farm: he uploads not too often but when he does it’s always a banger
@theanubisfan10
@theanubisfan10 5 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, King of Quality over Quantity is back!!!
@KremBotop
@KremBotop 5 ай бұрын
Recovered animation cels can also help in identifying a show's true color design. Contemporary releases of most classic Toei shows (Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon) have very inaccurate and inconsistent color grading due to aging / fading film filtering the colors and those being left uncorrected after a rescan, resulting in colored filters and lacking white balancing through all footage. Some might've heard recent discussions regarding how often Sailor Moon seems to have a pink tint all over it, that's because of uncorrected color grading due to aging film. Animation cels can actually give a glimpse of a coloring much closer to how it was originally designed back then. Look up various cels of these shows and compare. Amazing video ofc. This topic has always been very fascinating. And it'd be great if you can share a photo or video gallery of your full cel collection whenever possible.
@UnchainedPandoran
@UnchainedPandoran 5 ай бұрын
Plot Twist: This vid was an elaborate way to flex your cel collection. But seriously, I’ve never really thought about animation cels too deeply but I’ve always acknowledged the amount of time and dedication cel animated shows/movies required. That’s why something like Cuphead was such a huge thing when it was announced and then finally released. Was really cool learning about them and seeing the cels themselves. Thanks for all you do 👍.
@theanubisfan10
@theanubisfan10 5 ай бұрын
As an archivist, i gotta say this video is fantastic. The research you did on media preservation is very good. Some of the stuff you said came up in my finals during vocational school. I reckon you would've passed the exams!
@theanubisfan10
@theanubisfan10 5 ай бұрын
This video and your collection has been approved by an official archivist who studied this profession for 3 years ^^
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 5 ай бұрын
That is amazing!! Ever since I first watched the documentary "These Amazing Shadows", I've been obsessed with film preservation, and my dream job, above all else, would be to work at the National Film Registry Packard Campus to assist in film preservation. I've even considered moving to Virginia and offering to freely volunteer for a year, but I'm not sure how realistic that would be, or if they even care to have volunteers lol.
@MishKoz
@MishKoz 5 ай бұрын
The things I would do for a SpongeBob cel...
@jibanyanshow446
@jibanyanshow446 5 ай бұрын
Same here MishKoz same
@nore5888
@nore5888 5 ай бұрын
HEY ARENT YOU THAT GUY THAT GUY THAT DID THE-
@jibanyanshow446
@jibanyanshow446 5 ай бұрын
@@nore5888 yup the man that started it all
@naomii_star
@naomii_star 5 ай бұрын
YOO MISHKOZ
@DoritosAndMountainDew
@DoritosAndMountainDew 5 ай бұрын
Return of the King
@marcoscuadrado9795
@marcoscuadrado9795 5 ай бұрын
Dude I'm do happy you uploaded again can't wait to watch this!
@Autissm420
@Autissm420 5 ай бұрын
patmac is such a great youtuber, its cool to hear he inspired you to start a collection. also that perfect blue piece you have is so cool, i love that movie
@NoahClevinger
@NoahClevinger 5 ай бұрын
You could talk about anything and I would tune in. You have such a talent in storytelling, man!! Glad to have found your channel when I did.
@LiquidJes
@LiquidJes 5 ай бұрын
Love to see you make passion project vids, honestly a shame they don’t get as many views, cause hearing you talk about something you truly enjoy makes them just as good as the iceberg ones
@idkwmytuni
@idkwmytuni 5 ай бұрын
Honestly You should give yourself props I typically watch your iceberg videos, as background noise while I do homework/job/games I watched this video on a whim as I needed to eat (lmao) and you did such a good job that I was actually invested in it the entire time despite having no strong feelings for animation in general Thank you very much for this
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 5 ай бұрын
Your comment makes me feel really good about how much time I spent on this video lol. I knew it wouldn't do as well as my iceberg videos, and made it purely as a passion project, so the fact that it appealed to you, who claims to have little interest in animation, makes me feel much relief lol. Thank you so much, I'm beyond happy to hear you enjoyed it!
@Darko113
@Darko113 5 ай бұрын
Dude, Thank you for this video. I am an animator currently working on a 2D animated short for school by myself, and to hear your words of appreciation for this very overlooked part of the process is so encouraging, . I've been watching your channel for a couple of years now, but this video might be one of my favorites that youve done! Once again thank you and keep up the greatness ;)
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 5 ай бұрын
I was so worried that this video would go over most people's heads, and I'm sure it has for a few, but your comment has made me feel really good about making it! As much as I appreciate and adore animation and the process behind it, I have zero artistic skills when it comes to drawing, painting, or anything involving putting a utensil to paper and creating. All my artistic abilities are in music, and even then, it's quite subpar lol. I'm just happy I got the approval of someone who does animation, considering how little I know about the actual process, yet am willing to talk about it. It's hard to talk about an artistic process when you're simply an observer looking from the outside, as I am with animation, so I did my best lol.
@Darko113
@Darko113 5 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO Thanks for the response! And don't worry, your passion shows itself with every second of this video :)
@abanana
@abanana 5 ай бұрын
i've always wanted an animation cel!!
@kami_in_the_skye
@kami_in_the_skye 4 ай бұрын
I love *everything* about this video. People showing off & geeking out about their collections is my happy place. I don't even have to care about what's being collected, tbh. But in this case I very much do, since collecting cels is something I've somehat seriously flirted with several times over the years. But anyway, thank you for the history lesson and continued success with your collection! May you always find joy in it.
@NoxyNugYT
@NoxyNugYT 4 ай бұрын
Your videos are really entertaining, usually I just put on a video in the background for when I edit for background noise, but yours are some of the only few videos where I pay more attention to the video than editing 😅
@MarioDSLife
@MarioDSLife 3 ай бұрын
This is a hobby I never knew existed yet is so interesting. You produce stellar content, and it’s always a good day when watching your quality of videos. Also, I love how there are no midway ads, which is a refreshing bonus from the profit-driven content creators these days. Keep brightening everyone’s days.
@MidnightKrick
@MidnightKrick Ай бұрын
i keep waiting for far too long to watch your uploads. you can only experience something once, so i always think way too hard about when the moment deserves to be THE moment. i figured a holiday was fitting enough. can never get enough, it seems; felt like the video was only 5 minutes long from my perspective. good work, as always!
@not_a_box
@not_a_box 4 ай бұрын
I swear you could talk about the most boring topic imaginable and make it interesting! Keep up the good work!
@middlethenerd
@middlethenerd 5 ай бұрын
This may be your best video yet from a production standpoint absolutely fantastic as always!!!
@bungiegummie6000
@bungiegummie6000 4 ай бұрын
I collect animation cels and one of my favorites is two cels I own is from the 1983 movie Rock and Rule. So much of the production material and even the master copy was destroyed in a fire. I hope this video will inspire others to pick up the hobby like I did.
@tophatgeo
@tophatgeo 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video! I'm currently writing a research essay on digital animation preservation and getting to hear all of this history and the struggles of animated cels is so special and cool. There's something so amazing seeing people show so much love for the original paintings. Great work, wonderful editing
@GOB-TEK
@GOB-TEK 5 ай бұрын
You said it yourself - there's something so intriguing about how cels were treated historically. In hindsight it seems like the most obvious thing in the world: of course the literal, physical pieces of these iconic shows and movies featuring the most recognizable characters would be valued by fans! But the animators who worked on them probably didn't have that on their mind. To them, it was largely work, and those recognizable characters were just the most repetitive element of that work. Also, "iconic" is a retrospective term. You can make good artwork, have endless confidence in it, and sense that it's going to be an amazing final product, but whether something becomes culture-defining is largely out of the control of any artist on any level of the process. Between that and how carefully cels need to be stored to be preserved, it makes complete sense that preservation is the exception, not the rule. Still, cel collecting is one of the things that made me start taking preservation of my own art much more seriously. Not that anything I make will ever have such reach, mind - but I could picture my much older self wishing I had saved the early drafts of paintings or animations. Your passion shows in this video, so keep it up!
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 5 ай бұрын
You never know what art may end up becoming culturally significant, even your own, so preservation is incredibly important, even if it's of your own works! A rabbit hole I fell down quite a while ago was that of the artist Henry Darger. His story is so amazing to me, and truly proves that anyone can be an artist, and even further, anyone can be capable of creating art that can move so many people that it becomes culturally significant. The fact that he made such beautiful art for all of his life, only for it to finally be discovered and appreciated only after his death is a bittersweet, yet encouragingly beautiful story, and it really is only known because he took good care of the works that he made! I've considered doing a video on Henry Darger, but honestly, Down the Rabbit Hole's video is pretty much perfect, so I wouldn't have much to add lol.
@krmiistudios2479
@krmiistudios2479 4 ай бұрын
Awesome, Vid, Great Job. You're Analysis really Captured the Charm of Traditional Animation and its legacy. I'm currently Planning on having My Future Animated series Be Animated using Cels, with the only usage of digital, is for computer scanning, Editing, pasting together scenes, and Special Effects. Anyways, my Animated series will Mainly be a Tribute to The golden age Of animation (Specifically Looney Tunes), so this will fit well.
@Sunflower41XD
@Sunflower41XD 4 ай бұрын
I didn't even know a topic like this even existed! This was an awesome video man
@ladyangelsongbird
@ladyangelsongbird 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this amazing video! It's so obvious to see your passion for animation come through so genuinely, I love it! I've also been an animation fan for pretty much my whole life and I adore and respect it deeply as an art form. Even though computer animation is amazing and does wonderful things, I will always have a special place in my heart for 2D animation, especially cel animation (my person stance is 2D > 3D, but I'm terribly biased). There's just something about seeing something that an animator put all their blood, sweat and tears into expressed on paper and celluloid. The cels and frames are pieces of moving history. I love the little imperfections and nuances that make a scene imperfectly perfect, because you feel the human touch it was created with. A great example of this I found recently was the "My Mother" song from the Alvin and the Chipmunk movie 'The Chipmunk Adventure'. That scene has gorgeous animation and coloring that just makes your heart melt, and it feels so emotional and human that you want to cry. Although it's kind of sad for me that cels aren't used anymore, I understand why and their presence and influence is still felt in computer animation. Without cels, we wouldn't have digital animation! Again, thank you for making this video and I already intend to watch it many times over in the future and share with friends.
@ac7717
@ac7717 5 ай бұрын
LET'S GOOO your videos are always worth the wait, can't wait to watch this once I'm off work.
@deathmetalpokemon
@deathmetalpokemon 5 ай бұрын
Nice to see the man, the myth, the legend upload again! And it’s a cool topic you chose to discuss.
@dreampillet
@dreampillet 3 ай бұрын
There was a project for an animated feature a while back that intended to sell every single frame as an NFT that got clowned on on social media because well... NFTs, but I actually thought it was an interesting idea... if they got rid of the NFTs part. I think the production of a high-budget, fully cel-animated feature could legitimately be financed by auctioning every single cel/background. Of course, it'd probably be very risky, as people need to truly love the work to be interested in the cels and perhaps require some name recognition to attract collectors, whether it be renowned artists or a popular IP, but it'd be a way bring attention to the importance of every single frame and an opportunity to employ the traditional hand-made approach, which would be otherwise unfeasible these days due to costs/impracticality. Great video! I can't say this is a hobby I plan on dipping my feet into, but it's super interesting to learn about this hobby/community and I absolutely respect the appreciation they have for each of the single frames that make up favourite films/shows as an individual, one-of-a-kind piece of art!
@outter2
@outter2 5 ай бұрын
You my man are one of the top 5 creators and i love the video!
@noodlegirl8180
@noodlegirl8180 5 ай бұрын
one of the best videos ive watched ever, I love the passion you have in this
@jamesschindler8925
@jamesschindler8925 5 ай бұрын
This is such a change of pace and I'm all here for it
@hopedope2793
@hopedope2793 4 ай бұрын
omg!! i also became aware of animation cel collecting because of patmac!!! he's so cool and your collection is amazing!!
@EggboyYT
@EggboyYT 4 ай бұрын
I get so excited when you upload, GOAT KZbinr :)
@InvertedSeal
@InvertedSeal 5 ай бұрын
Awesome you uploaded again! Thank you for educating us while entertaining us too! 🤟
@KRM_2017
@KRM_2017 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the history and for sharing your passion, I appreciate these types of videos as well as the icebergs.
@DrClay999
@DrClay999 5 ай бұрын
Great video, it was cool seeing all the cels you had! Really enjoyed the trivia of this one!
@outter2
@outter2 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video, never stop what you do!
@ToyFreddyGaming1987
@ToyFreddyGaming1987 4 ай бұрын
10:14 Vegeta and Tails being on the same page is funny to me. Great video as always.
@kaisaramirez2688
@kaisaramirez2688 5 ай бұрын
It is actually so cool to learn something new about animation and film, had no idea about cels, yet another banger video ^^
@jibanyanshow446
@jibanyanshow446 5 ай бұрын
Pretty great video and man i wanna get a hold on some animation cels from like the golden age of spongebob
@DionneDion
@DionneDion 5 ай бұрын
Oh boy. Glad you uploaded again!
@therealzmg
@therealzmg 4 ай бұрын
YES a nescretro video that im gonna save for a rainy day and end up waiting too long to watch!
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 4 ай бұрын
This is awesome. My mom runs a art gallery/frame shop here in Oregon and one client brought in an official cell of what looked like a wolf trying to blow the house down. We had other cell pieces come in like goofy. I'll have to ask my mom to see what other one's she might remember seeing.
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
that's amazing! the store i go to for my framing has also shared with me other cels that they've had framed, and it's very impressive stuff! someone has brought in bambi and dumbo cels before, which is truly amazing!
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 4 ай бұрын
I wish 2D animation & practical effects would make a huge comeback. Such as introvision's matte painted backgrounds. In the 90's it felt like things used to take a ton of pride towards who could find the most creative ways to do things. One of my favorite shows was "X-Men the animated series" It is so well crafted. The story of mutants is just such a universally relatable subject. Media back then found ways to abstractly teach me life lessons, touched on difficult situations, found intelligent ways to tell stories. Even when I watched it all grown up it really felt like the story is so well crafted and executed that anyone is able to relate to it in someway or another. It's stuff like that that we are so deeply lacking nowadays. So much so that literal kid's cartoons from the 90's told deeper and more mature stories than most media nowadays. I'm just gonna list some shows or movies that I enjoyed growing up. Thundercats, He-man, Captain Planet (Pretty much anything created by Don Bluth or Written by Roald Dahl) The Brave little toaster, James and the giant peach, The never ending story, Rocko's modern life, The secret of the Nimh, Street Sharks, spider man, G.I. Joe's, The Fantastic 4, black cauldron, Little Nemo and the adventures of Slumberland, Beetle juice, Rock-a-doodle, Spawn, Batman, Batman beyond, toxic crusaders, Matilda, The BFG, Ren and stimpy, courage the cowardly dog, magic school bus, Dexter's laboratory, pinky and the brain, I am weasel, IR Baboon, Ah! Real monster's, goosebumps, are you afraid of the dark, pee wee's playhouse, she-ra warrior princess, cow & chicken, gargoyle's, power rangers, TMNT, the Indian in the cupboard, Addams family, toy soldier's, honey I shrunk the kid's, wild thornberries, hey Arnold, angry beaver's, Flintstones, the Jetsons, Kablam. There's many more but I won't list them all. Seeing how things are nowadays, i feel very lucky that i got to grow up in the 90's. Back then I never could have guessed that things would have changed the ways they did. I really miss the Vibe of that Era. I really hope we find a way to reconnect with it because the world seems like it really needs it right now. I mean just look at the esthetics then compared to now? Things have somehow become so bland, bleek, and minimalistic that it doesn't even make since. Most Old house's/building's/unique shop's are gone. There were Interesting oddities, drive in movies, indoor fun zones, arcade's, magazines that came with demo disc's so you could try out game's, blockbuster/Hollywood video, McDonald's had N64's, you could preview music before buying it, kid's toy's had unmatched quality and there was such a vast array of unique toys/action figures, Roller Rink's, Garbage pale kid's card's Those were the days.
@BlooFoster
@BlooFoster 3 ай бұрын
I loved this video. I've been thinking about trying to create my own cels for my original movie projects. I absolutely love the concept of owning a piece of animation history! This video is a piece of art! Edit: I've created a ton of cels for my projects, and I absolutely love them!
@TrudyHaley
@TrudyHaley 4 ай бұрын
Really loved seeing your collection! So sad seeing so many of these old animation cels with vinegar syndrome, though. Like you said, lot of animation companies didn't realize how valuable these would be and either didn't take care of them (or dumped them outright) and that's a real tragedy. :( I know there's been a lot of rumors about Gainax dumping a lot of their Evangelion cels, which is why there's so few of them these days, but I don't think anyone's ever verified this. I will say that there are a couple of ways to better validate whether or not a cel is authentic (even though as you said it's never 100%): > Punch Holes > Line fading that's appropriate for the age of the cel (especially around yellow-painted areas) and the studio (Toei cels tend to have a lot more fading) > Comes with original douga, genga, and/or background Some folks in the community are even able to identify whether or not a particular animator worked on a cel by the way they write the frame number and/or circle key cels (which is wild to me -- I'm definitely not at that level). Thanks for sharing this video -- it's a great source I'll be sharing with other newbie collectors when they join the hobby. :)
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@TrudyHaley I've been wanting an Evangelion cel for quite some time, and I almost have bought a couple, only for them to be bought right as I was about to! Same happened to a Kiki's Delivery cel only just a couple days ago lol. I really appreciate your info, it's amazing the depth that this hobby has, and dedication that those who also appreciate these works of art put into it!
@TrudyHaley
@TrudyHaley 4 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO I want a Kiki cel so badly, but between all the fakes and the high price tags, I don't think I'll ever be able to bite the bullet. >_< What I'd do for a cel of Kiki and Ursula together! The only good thing is that the character I want to collect from Evangelion (Kaji) sells for a lot less than the girls (or Shinji and Kaworu, lol), so there's hope that someday I'll be able to own him! Only problem is there's a lot fewer cels/douga of him. :(
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@TrudyHaley if that cel of Kiki and Ursula was real that I showed in the video, I would have been all over it! The one that sold a couple days ago seemed real, even my cel person in Japan agreed. They somehow have some crazy knowledge on cels and whenever they last sold on the market, saying this particular one last sold a little over 20 years ago. They're an amazing resource and I'm lucky they help me out so much! I'd love any main character evangelion cel, or even one of the Evas!
@TrudyHaley
@TrudyHaley 4 ай бұрын
​@@NEScRETRO Even Sotheby's was selling inauthentic cels during their most recent auctions. And someone was recently selling a cel with a fake Mandarake Certificate of Authentication. These scammers have no shame! It's great that you have such an awesome resource. If you're not checking already, I've occasionally found some really nice cels on Mercari (US and Japan!), which I never expected.
@ThruHerSkull
@ThruHerSkull 4 ай бұрын
This video is fascinating! Welcome back, missed your content.
@deltadark5748
@deltadark5748 4 ай бұрын
It has been 7 years, welcome back
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@@deltadark5748 it really might as well have! Lol
@ProGremlinPlayer
@ProGremlinPlayer 5 ай бұрын
"Babe, wake up. New NEScRetro video just dropped."
@DarthCrust66
@DarthCrust66 4 ай бұрын
What an amazing video I really enjoyed learning about how cels work
@sammeyer8338
@sammeyer8338 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic, very interesting video on something I knew nothing about. Great job
@MSSProductions1
@MSSProductions1 2 ай бұрын
small correction: 34:27 the thief and the cobbler was actually not animated on 2s but on 1s that means there were 60 frames per second, even more insane!
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 2 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that the film was running at 24 frames per second, which is the standard for most motion pictures, and that they animated on 1s at 24 fps! Doing it at 60 is absolutely insane!
@MSSProductions1
@MSSProductions1 2 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO it is standard usually, but they really went above and beyond, that's why the animation is extra smooth
@pamgrilling4737
@pamgrilling4737 5 ай бұрын
The goat returns
@middlethenerd
@middlethenerd 5 ай бұрын
THE GOAT RETURNS
@Chapowzer
@Chapowzer 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video! I have a SpongeBob cel and background that I admittedly didn’t know wasn’t being properly stored. Gonna correct that immediately lol
@vaultdweller94
@vaultdweller94 5 ай бұрын
Literally just yesterday I checked your channel to see if there was any announcements or something. What a coincidence
@Windyumbreon
@Windyumbreon 4 ай бұрын
WOW !! incredibly well-made and educational, this is such a great video
@minicio
@minicio 2 ай бұрын
Cant believed i missed this video when it dropped. Amazing video but sad to see that this doesn’t have as many views as your others :(
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 2 ай бұрын
@@minicio I expected it to not get many views, it's all good!
@andrewstag9603
@andrewstag9603 2 күн бұрын
Love animation cells just got into it this video was amazing
@bennytheyolk
@bennytheyolk Ай бұрын
About to get my first animation cel for Christmas can’t wait!
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO Ай бұрын
@@bennytheyolk awesome!! It's a very fun hobby!
@Quaxo21
@Quaxo21 4 ай бұрын
I need a SpongeBob 1 hour later cell.
@cjw8497
@cjw8497 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are top tier. I listen to all of them at work.
@kwik_001
@kwik_001 5 ай бұрын
THE GOAT IS BACK
@natejoe9924
@natejoe9924 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for a new video glad to see a video of and I'm hoping you're doing good on the weekend
@Ceejay6544
@Ceejay6544 5 ай бұрын
Hi this is a really good vid I like that ur doing new videos and I look forward to ur next video
@arbytv5139
@arbytv5139 4 ай бұрын
I have quite the collection of animation cels myself. including three from one of my favorite films of all time, “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@arbytv5139 oh wow! Roger Rabbit cels are amazing, given the technology of the film!
@arbytv5139
@arbytv5139 4 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO I know, and hopefully my fourth one (if I ever get it) will be of Jessica Rabbit. That’s one of my biggest goals with my collection.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 5 ай бұрын
Peak upload is finally here!
@DerSilvano
@DerSilvano 5 ай бұрын
I didn't even know this kind of shit even existed. Fantastic video, super nerdy
@Ceejay6544
@Ceejay6544 5 ай бұрын
Let’s goo new video
@nathanaelbaez5258
@nathanaelbaez5258 5 ай бұрын
I wonder how much the cell of yamcha on the floor would cost lmao
@TheJPooka777
@TheJPooka777 17 күн бұрын
Dude that Goku cel looks absolutely sick The only cel I've ever owned is a shot from the original One Piece ova, which is actually the first ever time One Piece has been animated I have animated with cels for acouple of short indie thingies awhile back and it's REALLY hard so seeing someone talk about the medium is really cool
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 17 күн бұрын
@TheJPooka777 one piece cels are really hard to come by! that's really cool that you have one!
@Hayden-s2s
@Hayden-s2s 4 ай бұрын
yippie new vid from a goated channel
@AdaraHepburn938
@AdaraHepburn938 5 ай бұрын
OMG A YOU HAVE A TAILS CEL?! That's awesome
@Autissm420
@Autissm420 5 ай бұрын
awesome collection and cool video ❤
@pokepress
@pokepress 4 ай бұрын
Cels are also desired by the AI upscaling community, since they allow access to the source materials for the show, potentially in better quality than the film negatives.
@Xeemix
@Xeemix 3 ай бұрын
HUUUUHHH!? I literally have the full bell clicked, youtube straight up let this one slip!
@Kovac22
@Kovac22 5 ай бұрын
So excited to watch this! I actually own a few cells from the DIlbert animated show, I think 3 or 4. Oh, I guess I should mention how I keep them. I do keep them in a portfolio, everything acid-free, in a cabinet, out of the sun. I very rarely open it to look at them, but when I do, it's also mostly to air them out a little bit, though they should be able to breathe just fine.
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 5 ай бұрын
I didnt mention it in this video, because it was something I started doing close to the end of working on this, but I've recently started cutting a large square out of the back of the rice paper on the frames I use, to allow the cels to breathe even more efficiently, and it seems to be working quite well! Is the cabinet that you keep your cels in like a bookshelf, or does it have a door on it, and you keep them inside?
@Kovac22
@Kovac22 5 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO It has a door, so no light gets into it. I should probably check on them a little more often, as now it’s like once every 6 months.
@ProGremlinPlayer
@ProGremlinPlayer 5 ай бұрын
34:47 Nice to see a fellow PatMac enjoyer. Shame that my favorite youtubers only upload once every, like, 6 months but hey what am I gonna do?
@FossaKingAve
@FossaKingAve 4 ай бұрын
yay the wait is over!
@jasoninkurai5463
@jasoninkurai5463 5 ай бұрын
This was a great video about Animation Cells. It's really cool to see you tackle something that you love and find interesting! I want to ask, what is your most sought after animation cell?
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 5 ай бұрын
I'd love a cel from Fantasia, but more realistically, one from Evangelion, Kiki's Delivery Service, or Serial Experiments Lain would be awesome, and those show up fairly often. I almost bought an Evangelion one a while back, but someone beat me to it! I find out of all the things I collect, cels give me the biggest feeling of regret when I don't buy a cel, or it gets away, because, as I say a lot in this video, there's only one. If you miss out on buying a cel, that exact one will never be available again, unless the buyer decides to sell it!
@TheLeftySwordsman
@TheLeftySwordsman 5 ай бұрын
I must be psychic or something this wasn't recommended to me, I looked up your channel wanting to re-watch an old vid😂
@ferretbop99
@ferretbop99 5 ай бұрын
Oh this is going to be a treat
@Aluxsiio
@Aluxsiio 3 ай бұрын
Another banger we eating good yall
@AnimationCelTalk
@AnimationCelTalk 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! You did a great job expressing the love and care that goes into collecting. I interview different cel collectors- maybe we could do an interview in the future. The very least, I have some videos you might enjoy, such as gallery owners, preservationists, historians... it's hard to find good cel collector content on KZbin, so I really enjoy that you posted this. Would love to hook up for a discussion.
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@AnimationCelTalk after reading your comment, I watched a bunch of your videos last night! I wouldn't be entirely opposed to an interview, I just really suck at talking in a live setting lol. A friend of mine always bugs me about wanting to do a podcast, I just feel that I do really bad without a script lol. I'll consider it though! Your interview videos are awesome and very entertaining!! How did you find my video, anyway?
@AnimationCelTalk
@AnimationCelTalk 4 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO I'll occasionally search for animation cel content on KZbin in hopes to find something interesting to watch. It's very rare content - sometimes people will post about it as a style as opposed to a hobby... so seeing your video was very exciting. Everyone says they're bad at interviewing, but the good thing is, as the guest, you don't have any of the heavy lifting, and you're talking about something you enjoy... so by the end of it, you'll say it was easy. Please do consider doing a video, it would be a lot of fun!
@maripuppquin6483
@maripuppquin6483 5 ай бұрын
i find this really interesting! pls feel free to do more passion projects
@kxngklizhy9185
@kxngklizhy9185 4 ай бұрын
2 weeks ago ?! Why didn’t I get notified 😢. I love your videos
@Trevor_NewJerusalem
@Trevor_NewJerusalem 3 ай бұрын
Decided to look up cels from one of my favorite cartoons. Yep. I don't have that kinda money
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 3 ай бұрын
@Trevor_NewJerusalem the prices definitely vary based off supply, which unfortunately makes some very expensive
@Trevor_NewJerusalem
@Trevor_NewJerusalem 3 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO It's for the best. I don't have the self discipline to take care of it 😅
@syrentide
@syrentide 4 ай бұрын
GASPED SO LOUD WHEN I SAW YOU UPLOADED
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@@syrentide I hope you enjoy it! Despite the shorter length, I think it's my best produced video yet!
@syrentide
@syrentide 4 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO IM LOVING IT!!!!
@ChrisHoulihan
@ChrisHoulihan 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video🎉
@pablocasas5906
@pablocasas5906 4 ай бұрын
29:51 no, Fullmetal Alchemist was made with Digi Paint, 29:57 the same thing with the One Piece anime series, Toei Animation were one of the first studios to adopt digital ink & paint back in 1997 with the third remake of GeGeGe no Kitaro, however, there's a One Piece OVA which came before the anime series and was animated by another studio was cel animated
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
Was FMA really?? I know Brotherhood certainly was, but I find a lot of sources stating that FMA was cel animated. In regards to One Piece, you're completely right. I have no idea where I confidently found "info" that made me think otherwise, doing another search definitively came up with that answer you just gave.
@pablocasas5906
@pablocasas5906 4 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO I'm pretty sure FMA '03 was digitally animated, some of the early Digi Paint anime from that era have a very distinctive look to them, not to mention FMA was Studio Bones' sixth anime TV series and their previous series like Angelic Layer, Wolf's Rain and Scrapped Princess were digitally painted as well, which makes sense since Bones began making anime in the year 2000. I think by 2001 or 2002 is when most anime studios shifted to digital ink & paint, even shows like Pokémon switched from cels to Digi Paint in a very abrupt manner, in Pokémon's case the animation team began experimenting with digital coloring in some shots of the second opening, while the third opening was fully digitally colored, but the show was still being animated with cels until 2002, near the end of the Johto League Arc. Though Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea movie from 2006 was the last major anime movie animated with cels
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@pablocasas5906 that's so weird. If you simply Google "was full metal alchemist cel animated", even the AI google response says it was. How strange, but I suppose it makes sense that it wasn't. I can't find a SINGLE example of a cel from the series, even in a gallery setting. I just took Googles word for it. Goes to show that you can't trust AI lol 😅
@anameraucana1688
@anameraucana1688 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to own cels myself, but prices aside I don’t really think I’d be able keep them in good condition, so I’ll leave em to the collectors. I’ll say this in regards to Dragon Ball, despite the Dragon Box DVDs from Japan having the best picture quality for the complete series at the moment, especially when compared to the western releases, the colors are horribly warped and faded due to improper film storage and poor scanning. Thankfully because Dragon Ball cels are still out there and can be used as reference, people like Seed of Might have been able to color correct the Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT Dragon Box releases to get the series looking how it should which is a huge Godsend, and is a great example as to how cels can be used to restore the colors of older cartoons and anime.
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
You're 100% correct! Same thing happened to Sailor Moons original 16mm reels as well, and gives the show a pinkish tint that wasn't how the series was meant to look! It's a great rabbit hole to go down, along with the butchering the of the original 4:3 aspect ratio
@MSSProductions1
@MSSProductions1 2 ай бұрын
question! I have recently gotten a cel with two layers to it and i'm wondering how I should store them. one cel has the heads and one cel has the clothes on them. additianally it came with the copy of the background on paper. Can I store them on top of each other when each cel is in a sleeve? i store them in a portfolio
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 2 ай бұрын
I would separate each layer using one of those time magazine bags that I mentioned in the video, that way they could still be layered on top of each other, but there's no risk of the paint sticking to the other cel layer! With that, you can also put the background behind them without risk of damage! And, again, as long as the two cels are separated by something, like the time magazine sleeves, you can certainly store them on top of each other, just air them out occasionally and check for signs of vinegar syndrome!
@MSSProductions1
@MSSProductions1 2 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO thanks a lot ♥
@Justinjaro
@Justinjaro 4 ай бұрын
Dang you have a bunch of good Dragon Ball Z ones, I'm drowning in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Doug, and Captain N cels.
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
@Justinjaro I'd love to get a Doug cel! Hey Arnold would be my grail Nickelodeon cel, but they're pretty pricey! I need to jump on a spongebob one while they're still under $500!
@squidapuss9448
@squidapuss9448 5 ай бұрын
I always would have wanted to own a cel from the original g1 transformers show
@ZeroTheHero3
@ZeroTheHero3 5 ай бұрын
9:33 how could you say this… I watched that movie all the time as a kid so to me at least it’s prestigious
@theworstgamer754
@theworstgamer754 5 ай бұрын
Lord of the icebergs: return of the king (easy top 5 KZbinr of all time. 1. Scott the woz 2. Caddicarus 3. Nescretro 4. Vsauce 5. Penguinz0
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
The fact that you put me on a level even close to these legends is insane. I do truly appreciate it! I enjoy watching them as well!
@antonco2
@antonco2 4 ай бұрын
By the way, you said The little mermaid was the last disney feature to use cel animation, but I think The goofy movie was on cels as well
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 4 ай бұрын
From my research, A Goofy Movie used Digital Ink and Paint! It very well may have used sketched cels that were scanned to be painted, but at the very least, they were painted digitally!
@antonco2
@antonco2 4 ай бұрын
@@NEScRETRO it was?? Damn, the coloring was so good, it totally tricked me
@Vulnresati
@Vulnresati 5 ай бұрын
The cel saga
@Gonsoi
@Gonsoi 3 ай бұрын
i watch your channel cause your icebergs but i didn't know you were a fan of cell animation. Thanks to your terminology i could found cell sheets on alliexpress so i'm waiting hoping to get some empty sheets to try doing my own animations on paper. Since you have cell animations i have a question: does the lineart is drawn on one side of the sheet and coloring is in the other side ? or everything is made in the same side of the sheet?
@NEScRETRO
@NEScRETRO 3 ай бұрын
@@Gonsoi yes! The line art is copied from the genga/sketch sheet on one side, then flipped over and pained on the reverse side! I'm not exactly sure how the painting process is done upside down like that, however. You may be able to find a cel painting guide on youtube!
@JeanRodo
@JeanRodo 5 ай бұрын
Cels are also edible!
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