Anissa Complete History | Invincible Season 2

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#anissa #invincible #invincibleseason2 #markgrayson
Invincible's most hated character has finally made her animated debut. Anissa is a complicated character who has done some truly horrible things in the comic books. But Anissa is also a fiercely loyal soldier who eventually learns the error of her previous ways much like the other Viltrumites. Today's video covers her complete comic book history.

[@KeyIssues]

Is there anyone else this season you want us to make a video on?

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Donald.

[@Nebulous8091]

October's, he is one of my favorite

[@Haluva]

Black Samson

[@Nebulous8091]

Meant to say octoboss, I hate autocorrect

[@thetotaldramaking5427]

Conquest please!

[@fernandolemus5965]

I know for a fact whenever "that scene" gets animated it's gonna be very controversial and create discourse all over the Internet 💀

[@rontheauraknight9606]

I fear for her VA

[@joshuahecht6866]

@@rontheauraknight9606 You mean Becca Butcher Then yes.

[@erintheangry2]

nah. Nobody gives a shit about MEN getting struggle snuggled.

[@cdnm47ify]

Nope.. There gonna make her seduce mark in order to make her bearable. Just look how they are trying to make people like amber, plus all the character swaps done from the comic like amber, shrink ray they are definitely go nna change Anissa to be more bearable.

[@cfiber_inc]

Oh definitely

[@zacharymccoy7091]

It was a brilliant change from the comic where Anissa threatened Debbie instead. Now Mark and Amber see how dangerous this relationship truly is.

[@StoryEdits68]

Glad the writers changed/made Amber's character a lot better

[@josephmorelli3408]

Anything that gets rid of Amber and Mark's relationship faster is a good thing. I'm not sure we'll even get to Mark x Eve this season on animated Invincible.

[@RaggedViking]

​@@josephmorelli3408they might set it up at the very end of the season as part of the whole set up to lead into season 3.

[@magmarxiogaming6717]

they definitely killed 2 birds with one stone for that one with the amber breakup and anissa introduction

[@Madame702]

It is interesting they drew Anissa to look more like Sasha Calle, or Super Girl from the Flash movie starring Ezra Miller.

[@shreksophone0749]

Anissa: *pissed off with Mark and stuff* Allen: *laughs like Seth Rogan*

[@simonf9160]

I absolutely know the internet is gonna blow up after *THAT* scene.

[@KeyIssues]

Like a nuclear bomb

[@GreenGuy-gv8di]

​@@KeyIssues Robert kirkman: let's bring the hammer down

[@spencerpayton5401]

To be fair, they could subvert that scene

[@idreams731]

@@spencerpayton5401nope, make it as in the comics.

[@joshuahecht6866]

@@GreenGuy-gv8di Or I have become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

[@ericschuller908]

As someone who suffered sexual assault by a female partner years ago, the way that Mark handled the aftermath of being raped was very cathartic to me. The fact that he had lasting pain and issues with it that affected his relationship with his son for years after was very grounded in how such an act can having an impact on not just the victim, but how they interact with others going forward. It's why I can't hate that issue. It deals with real things in realistic ways and does not condone what Anissa did.

[@li-limandragon9287]

I say they should just have Eve kill Anissa this time round when she finds out. Mark wouldn’t want that because he’d feel it was his fault and it gives even more drama and complexity to his and Eve’s relationship.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Absolutely.

[@IvanMoncure]

@@li-limandragon9287I think Anissa’s redemption is important. She’s an abuser but also a product of a cycle of abuse and victimization that trapped the entire Viltrumite species. Mark eschewing violent retribution, hugging his father after everything, is the point. It saves their species.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@IvanMoncureBut the difference is, Anissa’s actions have consequences that completely dwarf anything Nolan, Thragg or Conquest does. Her being part of a violent life style is not an excuse because she didn’t go after Mark for simply breeding purposes she lusted for him and outright says “I missed you” like a creep in a later scene. She’s no different from any sex offender on the street and she shouldn’t get any special privileges or excuses. Plus let’s be real if she was a man and Mark was a woman, a redemptive arc would get Kirkman crucified.

[@Dan-uf2vh]

Explain how you were "forced". Was she stronger or did you get tricked? And if tricked, were you actually forced? I find it insulting that women who can get pregnant or be killed by their community in some parts of this world can be on the same level.

[@sabersroommate8293]

The good thing about that infamous scene we will probably have a bigger discussion about male rape.

[@-bielle2985]

Bruh men themselves make "I wish it was me" jokes about that scene. It's really sad because it's actually a very serious topic that nobody takes seriously. Just check the comments on videos about Mark and Anissa's fight. It's all jokes about his trauma.

[@johnlawful2272]

​@@-bielle2985true but most men are ignored

[@fakereality7315]

@@-bielle2985No matter who’s doing it, rape is never OK. I’m a guy and it made me seriously uncomfortable when I read the comic

[@jonathanathor117]

I can see guts and mark being drinking buddies now and trauma bonding for a long time.

[@urielandbb9725]

Mark didn’t take it up the ass as a child

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

guts had it WAY worse

[@louiswalusimbi8006]

They both had it bad but Guts had it so much worse since he was a child getting his sphincter rearranged by a grown man

[@chriswrangler5680]

Don't ever disrespect Guts pain like that again.

[@lucasbroome1048]

@@chriswrangler5680 Dude saw Mark and Guts being drinking buddies and got offended

[@jordynsmith3977]

I audibly went “oh no” when I saw this because this means THE scene is coming

[@k_hack9441]

It’s amateur compared to the Game of Thrones assault scene in the church

[@roderickspencerjr.2482]

@@k_hack9441never scene it, don’t know when I will, but might I asked who got violated…😭

[@k_hack9441]

@@roderickspencerjr.2482 dude it’s tv history, cmon gotta keep up. But a brother forced himself on his sister next to the corpse of their dead son.

[@DrGandW]

Not this season, but she's been in the show now

[@roderickspencerjr.2482]

@@k_hack9441 been too focused on wwe and anime, haven’t shown much interest in GOT😭

[@vishaansingh1019]

90% of the online discussion around this character is barely-disguised fetishposting

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

exactly.

[@diegopansini3152]

I mean, come on, look at her 😂🔥

[@ALJ9000]

@@diegopansini3152 💦🔫 Down boy.

[@IllD.]

hell yeah

[@ALJ9000]

@@diegopansini3152 💦🔫 No. Bad

[@JustAnAverageGuy5731]

Dreading future Invincible episodes now that Anissa is here. 😭

[@sakhile6460]

wait did i miss an episode or something. WHEN DID ANNIE GET HERE

[@dnmstarsi]

​@@sakhile6460 Today.

[@Jakefrmstate0]

@@sakhile6460newest ep

[@jeremyrivera7079]

I think we're good until season 4 at least

[@jeremyrivera7079]

​@@sakhile64602x7 is on amazon prime right now

[@fuzzynuttz5092]

It's cool guys Mark doesn't have his blue suit yet so he's in the clear.... for now

[@nathanielclaw2841]

My problem with Anissa is that it feels like she had a personality shift between before the SA scene and beyond, and then got yet another shift to becoming a good guy. It’s like the writers were juggling ideas with what direction they would go with her and just got nowhere

[@arcanewarrior863]

I think they wanted the whole Marky thing to happen, and had to have him become a hero, so they had to turn her slightly more into a character that could act as a motherly figure

[@futuretrunksss6625]

I wouldnt say she became a good guy.She was definelty viewed in a more positive light but not to the main cast.Especially not Mark and Eve they never forgave her.Tho I agree her shift was a bit too fast,her having an intrest in Mark is only a couple of scenes here and there due to all the stuff that was happening around the time.But maybe that was intentional to show how differently Viltrumites view intimacy?Anyway it is a very heavy plotline that affected Mark for the rest of his days and I hope it doesnt get cut or changed drastically

[@kap1618]

The issue is framing. She can be allied with the Heroes but not liked by any of them.

[@TheDancerMacabre]

There was recently an interview done with Kirkland and he said he wanted to make Anissa an irredeemable character but see if the audience had the capacity to forgive her. You don't have to do it and he understands that. I think he meant it as a way of "Let the individual decide" to see where our own depths of forgiveness are

[@rexerator]

People can change. 5 years is enough time in my opinion for such a change. And as they say, becoming a parent changes your perspective on things.

[@jesuspernia8031]

Her character design in the show is far better tbh

[@DromusTH]

I agree, she looks extremely good in the show

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Eh It looks alright.

[@williamfrank962]

Honestly I think it’s a mix bag. In the comics she gave off a look of intimidation both in her first appearance than in her redesign. She came off as someone you want to avoid. This appearance works well to though, frankly she more pleasant to look at and that could be viewed as the possible reasoning that a viltrumite takeover isn’t so terrible as well as how she tries to display the good qualities of the empire. What I think they should do is give her more screen time to flesh her out more to get a bit of both worlds. Still I prefer her appearance in the show.

[@jesuspernia8031]

@@williamfrank962 Fair enough. For me it’s as simple as I like how they drew her face better and the slightly longer hair.

[@user-ho2pp2pu1f]

totally, the og design seemed to fanservice-y for what she does

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Anissa is the Fleece Johnson of Invincible.

[@jaydenc.gibson175]

fr

[@jonathanathor117]

Or the Donovan

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Lmfao

[@Rap-Slinger]

Whos that?

[@shinjiadventures7558]

​@Rap-Slinger The booty warrior. And Mark is choosing the hard way.

[@arfhat89]

It’s pretty ironic they got Shantel VanSanten to voice Anissa since she also played Butcher’s wife, Becca. She went from victim to offender.

[@li-limandragon9287]

You should read the comments that defend her. If she was a man there would be no forgiveness.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

​@@li-limandragon9287 well shes not men and women are different. Not every situation is gonna be the same.

[@Jackofalltraits_]

​@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord its still horrible shit no matter which way you look at it. No sane person is gonna pat you on the ass sayin "Hey, great job being raped bud"

[@Rolkey]

@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Why are you out here giving double standards to sexual assault.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

@@Rolkey i just said why

[@ssj4922]

At this point the very name: 'Anissa' could be considered a triggered word for Invincible Comic Book Readers

[@diegopansini3152]

Both positive and negative lol

[@sakhile6460]

Based on how long it takes to make a single season of this show, it will be damn near a decade before it concludes. I even have doubts as to whether Amazon will see it through. It's insane to me we only got 8 episodes along with a long midseason break.

[@edgarwolfe9]

Lets all decide that when that scene shows up, we DO NOT talk shit to the voice actor

[@plasmahandoku1073]

The reason I hate Anissa the most is of course the rape scene but the biggest controversy is the fact that, Mark had to suffer everything and even mentally too where at the end of the comic he is still haunted by Anissa and now has to take take the burden of taking care of his son. Anissa on the other hand didn't get any negative repercussions. When Thragg arrived she died and saved Eve but yet gave 0 closure towards Mark. People may say like, Oh maybe she is also suffering from what she did. I'm pretty sure she felt some guilt but she is living a full happy life with her son and new husband. This is some real situations that also happens in life where sometimes the person conducting sexual assault is scot free while the victim has to suffer in the aftermath.

[@UnendingCoda]

I mean are we really not going to point out that While most make good points about Viltrumates all being evil, In modern times some hold Grape as worse, and to have a woman it seems like a excuse.. like let's not have a man do because we know he'll stay a villain, but a woman can be redeemed ? To me it seems odd, I mean oh aren't men and women the same?

[@augustgremaud2738]

I’m actually okay with that: it’s realistic. In real life, good people often suffer and bad ones get away with their misdeeds. I don’t think it’s wrong to depict a bad person getting away with bad actions. Problem is, if her redemption is a unfulfilling in the show as in the comic, I expect that some people will forgive her undeservedly rather than continue to dislike her (as they should).

[@DrGandW]

In terms of karma she escaped better than Mister Miracle could have. I love her as a character and her plot I objectively see as good but while she began to atone her story is definitely a tragedy in that she couldn't redeem herself fully, and I also hate her lol

[@CatotheE]

People got away with worse. Eve killed her baby.

[@CatotheE]

A lot of people got away with their immorality. Eve killed her baby.

[@ShaneFullerYT]

I like how her hairstyle in the animated series looks like Sasha Calle's DCEU Supergirl hairstyle... Ooooor maybe I'm overthinking it😅

[@oentrepreneur]

That's exactly how her hairstyle looks like in the comics

[@ShaneFullerYT]

@@oentrepreneur Oh naaaw, she got that Damian Wayne cut in the Comics haha

[@obsidian2249]

​@@ShaneFullerYTlater in the series she gets the exact cut she has in the show

[@downspiral]

she looks almost exactly like Sasha Calle's Supergirl, it's the haircut

[@hoesmad8035]

do you know the name of her haircut??

[@Discount_Jesus]

Honestly, with how much worse they made Nolan’s rampage on earth, I’m a little worried that they’ll make Anissa worse in the show

[@li-limandragon9287]

I mean the worse mistake the comic made was the redemption she gets in the aftermath. That’s not the kind lesson you should be teaching.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@li-limandragon9287 Agreed

[@Discount_Jesus]

@@li-limandragon9287 personally I don’t mind Anissa getting a redemption (though I completely get why others would), after all they’re giving Nolan a redemption even after the show made his rampage on earth far worse (he killed thousands of people just to prove a point because he was annoyed at his son). My issue is that they didn’t show Anissa changing like they did with Nolan, in the show especially. She just shows up one day and is like “oh I was bad but now I’m good” with no other context, so it felt disingenuous

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@Discount_JesusThat’s why I foresee her just getting killed this time round or not assaulting Mark at all.

[@repentbro2938]

What makes u think it aint gonna happen they already made her introduction perfect like in the comics.​@@li-limandragon9287

[@Frazier16]

My only issue with Anissa is that she never gets punished. Omni man was hated by his family and by earth for killing a bunch of innocents. Anissia never gets anything close to that. After she rapes mark, she finds a husband, realizes what she did was wrong, then dies. I hope they make her character better in the show

[@li-limandragon9287]

I’d rather she gets karmically killed this time but they learn she’s got a son they just made an orphan.

[@joshuahecht6866]

Since Omni Man is Argall’s son and changed for the better because of earth and knows how the Viltrumites think, he definite should have punished Anissa for her mistreatment of his child. No one would blame him but he did not. Ir’s embarrassing.

[@HammyAndSammy]

Sinclair never gets punished too, they just straight up offer him a job, I'm not trying to lessen what you said I'm just adding another person who got scott free 😢, i hate what he did

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

end of the video :anissa over everything me: including mark ☠️

[@KeyIssues]

[@radiant_peace8457]

@@KeyIssues LOLLLLL

[@climbeverything7915]

Stoked to have stumbled upon one of your videos live!

[@KeyIssues]

Always welcome to hang, we only do premieres every now and then

[@oldmatejohnno]

why does mark even bother with his goggles? every single fight he gets in the fucking things shatter

[@dnmstarsi]

It looks cool and it prevents his identity a bit more since you need a lot of power to even damage those things.

[@timisjim2711]

It’s good writing. Bad things happens, good people do bad things and the way the show creates scale is pretty amazing, I was really pleased with season 2

[@huntercool2232]

The main problem I have with her character is that she says that she regrets hurting Mark, but doesn’t regret her actions because it gave birth to Marky. Like yeah ok something good might have come out of it, but regardless saying you don’t regret r*ping someone is BEYOND messed up.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I wonder how the show is gonna adapt their... "second meeting?"

[@Westigrannik]

"South park game europe censure pictire"

[@mullerpotgieter]

Amber is hated for being incredibly selfish in the first season and they've done a 180 in season 2

[@FroZoneDeNiro]

Great timing bro, and even better video! 🔥

[@KeyIssues]

Thank you!

[@huntercool2232]

If they don’t put *THAT* scene in the show people are gonna call them out so hard

[@ornstein2419]

funny how the incel hate Amber and love Anissa these day.

[@toaster9922]

When they adapt her "redemption" in the show, it would be interesting to see Scott straight up leave her without even making a note after she admits to him what she did to mark. It'd drive the point in that stuff like rape can't be brushed away with forgiveness. It destroys families and stays with you forever.

[@elijahdubois7902]

Oh God. Invincible's worst nightmare is here.

[@patriot459]

Her design in the show looks awesome. I felt in the comics she looked kind of weird but in this she actually looks like she has some sort of reasonable intelligence when she says killing humans is bad if viltrum is to take over. She’s obviously horrible but I do like that she is the worst of viltrumites summed up but that’s what makes he change later all that more interesting.

[@BigWillieDillie]

Getting Assaulted by Chyna from WWE is the equivalent to this😭

[@duykhanhcloud6866]

Nope Anissa is way hotter than Chyna at least.

[@ginsengaddict]

They cast Shantel Van Santen to voice Anissa, too. She played Becca on The Boys. If you've seen that show, I shouldn't have to explain the parallels between her two roles here.

[@ultrachad7907]

I still can't get over my head how Mark was able to literally beating conquest head into a pulp but still was abused by Anissa

[@ramonantoniodejuanbennett6239]

Sasha Calle is perfect to play Anissa in a live-action Invincible!

[@itsproguy]

I hope the scene gets animated completely

[@dork4202]

When anissa had her foot in marks neck for a sec i thought marky was about to get created even though i’ve already read the comics

[@TopHistoryFactsDaily]

Nice stuff

[@ryanlennox]

The thing is I’d leave amber for Anissa in a heartbeat the moment she offers

[@CatotheE]

Same. I’d leave Eve for Anissa in a heartbeat.

[@DylanJo123]

Beta simps

[@CatotheE]

@@DylanJo123 She’s just hotter and she wouldn’t gaslight me about my secret identity or do what Eve did.

[@joe3019772008]

when i first read what she did to mark i was outraged and hated her for the longest time. once she was killed off, i was overjoyed. but, now, i look back on it and remember how she has 2 children now motherless. it kind of breaks your heart especially when i grewup without my real dad for 8 and a half years before my mom finally remarried. when she died in 2021 from cancer. i started to think what it felt like not having my real dad and now i no longer my mom either. for a great many years, my step dad and i didn't get along. but, i believe we would have had i been willing to give him the chance to be my dad. these days, it's way different. it should have been that way long time ago.

[@willatano1464]

Nuh uh. Didnt like that sass at the beginning. Also anisa had a redemption later on. Blocked, downvoted, missile locked and sent

[@dnmstarsi]

An off screen redemption that felt undeserved.

[@matthewwilliams7732]

I love her character I love the fact despite her being over thousands of years old she was able to change and become redeemed also I love her apology and sacrifice to eve saying she sorry for what she's caused but not what she made basically showing her love to her family and son that she never wanted

[@ricky865]

Man if they introduce Tech jacket in the animated series they should give him a spinoff show next like in the comics.

[@hentaiprotagonist392]

Twitter will be flooded the day *that* moment gets animated

[@tonystank3091]

Honestly, I'm unsure if they're brave enough.

[@hentaiprotagonist392]

@@tonystank3091 amazon has the balls, they have made boys/gen v, which even makes fun of that kind of moments

[@shadowbandit3975]

@@tonystank3091 Yah the producers will be to much of pussies to do it. They might offscreen it, and change it to he's was drugged so not fully awake for the experience.

[@Anissa-Viltrumite]

I will be flooded the day *that* moment gets animated.

[@ArnoldPalmer725]

Really don’t think they will if we’re being realistic

[@lem0nad3z]

bro people don't hate Amber because she's "bossy sometimes".

[@melomateus_m.r]

He is just trying to cowardly avoid backlash from the feminists.

[@dmittleman9757]

This. We dislike her because she’s poorly written. Her behavior towards Mark’s absence coupled with what she knows about his powers is inconsistent, but the characters and show try to lie and say it’s a good thing. Edit: I should have clarified that I was talking about Season 1 and will admit that she’s a lot more understanding in Season 2.

[@M.Novast]

He knows that's. From what I've seen, there's this weird team think or feigned ignorance people who say lines like that in defense of Amber in season 1. It's basically the patrick/wallet scene from spongebob. You can break down point by point why Amber or at the very least her character and actions, as they were written to be, were terrible. And every single time, people like this never acknowledge what you just typed or resort to calling you some -ist. I guess it has something to do with her being a woman/poc. Their hard wiring treats it like some sort of logical paradox and can't compute it.

[@echo5327]

I feel like in S2 they've gone a long way towards realigning her views towards actual sense, where she respects mark but just can't handle being in a relationship with him. And I think they were attempting to do that in S1 but failed lol. I think that scene where he finally comes clean should have been much more ambiguous, where she accepts why Mark lied to her but still is really hurt by it. And I think they've really done that interaction well in S2, and I can handle her as a character now.

[@KarateKidX]

@@M.Novast It's not so much a problem with Amber the character. It's a literal mistake by the writers. She did not know that mark was Invincible in season 1 until he told her, and I don't care how much the writers try to gaslight me into believing she did.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

The crazy thing is, Amber has greatly improved in S2, just in time for her to leave the story. Clearly making way for the true most evil of characters.

[@verylicky3156]

This video feels more like an apology video than a character history video lol.

[@HeyItzZedd]

first time I caught your video this quick

[@Kameron87]

“Anissa over everything”…Would that still be the case if Anissa were a male character who grapes a female Invincible….Simp.

[@TheDarkKnight-lf5ce]

Really curious to see how they handle her in the show

[@li-limandragon9287]

My two biggest fears are 1) They just sidestep what she does to Mark completely (I think sexual assault on males needs more serious exposure) or 2) They try and make her sympathetic like the comic ultimately does.

[@IvanMoncure]

@@li-limandragon9287I disagree. If you don’t redeem Anissa you invalidate the thematic premise of the series. Thragg’s children choose to be better than their abusive father, just like the viltrumites choose to be better than their abusive past.

[@jesus2639]

i like her character design. they mixerd her design in the middle of the story and her design at the end.

[@Opposing__fists]

4:12 tech jacket must be enjoying and suffering at the same time

[@shawnsouth327]

After Anissa has marky I noticed Ryan ottley deliberately drew her with softer facial features and gave her warmer facial expressions I assume she was drawn that way so the readers would better receive her change and or he and Robert kirkman were trying to tell the audience she changed

[@tristanhdtv9190]

Anissa finally here😍😍😍😍

[@therwbyfamilton8023]

When the Crater in the episode was shown, I had a mini scare. I thought IT was about to go down.

[@fuzzy_3740]

The switch up on amber over Anissa gonna be insane

[@michaelone28-3]

is it just me or is anissa one of the hottest animated characters ever 😩😩 boom goes the dynamite sorry 😂😂😂

[@graysonminnie9414]

I immediately was like “oh my god” the second she showed up

[@Anissa-Viltrumite]

That's what I made Mark say

[@gaggledweasel2579]

Goat show

[@Flowriter]

The animation is lit. Even her chest bounced when mark punched her.

[@erickrapa7939]

I kinda think she is cute

[@OmegaRomik]

I love Anissa ever since I heard of her. She’s my favorite character and the show DOESNT disappoint

[@user-ie5ef4kt5f]

Anissa is so Awesome Character ever invincible tv series😍❤️👍

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

This will be interesting

[@SILK97]

As dirty as Anissa was, why do we act like every male Viltrumite hasn’t done a hundred times more damage

[@bobbydrake2486]

Good point

[@AmericaChavez17]

Maybe because Anissa's actions were shown and people ignored the fact that her male counterparts has done similar to her. Or maybe because male rapes is barely talked about or taken seriously

[@The_Greedy_Orphan]

The Viltrumites as a race have to answer to no one, and they rule as the survival of the fittest dictates. So why would human morales of rape and murder apply to them? It's an uncomfortable idea that we should allow TV shows to explore, but in this age of wokeness we find ourselves restricting our freedom to explore more and more and conversely imposing more and more censorship on ourselves. I grew up around the height of freedom when there was very little you couldn't do on TV. Quite frankly I'm more surprised that Amber and Mark are breaking up because I imagine more people will be upset that Mark will ditch a black woman for a white woman, regardless of how well the show handles it.

[@DromusTH]

Facts, That what just annoys me everybody just seems to completely hate her because of that 1 single bad thing she did but everybody else such as Nolan and Thragg get a pass.

[@InfamousResult]

Are people "acting like" that didn't happen, or are you just upset that every discussion of Anissa doesn't have an asterisk * where they say "and the male Viltrumites, too"..?

[@user-fn5we8mr6b]

I just Hope to God That Mark keeps his Guard Up With the Next time She Comes Around If She Decides to Forcefully Copulate With him

[@LoyalWolf4665]

I watched this live and I liked it

[@VergilEdits]

mommy is here and she is angry

[@Lord_Retrospect]

A literary tool to ask the reader if they are capable of forgiving. Aye

[@tonystank3091]

For most, that seems to be a resounding "no."

[@Lord_Retrospect]

@@tonystank3091 I guess those are not capable

[@tonystank3091]

@@Lord_Retrospect Indeed. I like to think *I'm* capable of forgiving though. Especially when what she did was just another tuesday activity on Viltrum.

[@LOSTNFOUND223]

“She’s kinda bossy sometimes 💅” just had me crying 😂

[@chickmagnetpunkcmpunkbesti8896]

Thank you,what an amazing story=D

[@sleshstamp]

People hate her more than they hate Nolan, who's responsible for killing many innocent people. They come from an alien culture. If Nolan could change, then she can change. What she did is wrong but she didn't slaughter thraxans or human beings like the other viltrumites that are shown. Doesn't deserve to be the most hated character.

[@robertwoods3871]

It's wild how y'all will defend rape when a woman does it

[@li-limandragon9287]

So you’ve never experienced sexual assault or spoken to survivor good to know man. Christ, by logic we should forgive Homelander or Griffith if they redeem themselves. Plus the show added Nolan’s brutality against innocent people, in the comic we don’t see him deliberately kill a single innocent civilian. He just didn’t care about the lives lost while fighting Mark.

[@IllMatic97]

​@@li-limandragon9287 stop trying to compare sexual assault to genocide.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@IllMatic97She’s done both, difference is she explicitly doesn’t regret the SA. Screw her, at least Nolan went through hell for his crimes. Anissa does not.

[@sleshstamp]

@@li-limandragon9287 I think murdering hundreds of people is just a little bit worse.

[@danielendless]

Poor Mark, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. In fact I'd take that bullet myself, it should've been me. Why wasn't that me😔

[@diegopansini3152]

😂Good twist

[@Mimic1944]

Don’t worry not even fictional women want you much less real women

[@Mimic1944]

Don’t worry no women would ever think of looking in your vicinity not even fictional women much less real women

[@Greg12839]

​@@Mimic1944 thats some serious projecting there, pathetic

[@Mimic1944]

@@Greg12839 coming from the actual pathetic person

[@JustADemon2023]

Let’s be honest, the only reason more fans hate Amber over Anissa is because they’ve watched the show over reading the comics. Watching is more preferred than reading is after all, but that could change at some point if the show is willing to go down the same road.

[@mechajay3358]

That's exactly why. Also Amber from the show is way different from comics so first time watchers won't know that.

[@CatotheE]

No. I hate Season 1 Amber over Anissa, because Anissa didn't seem to realize what she was doing was wrong. Amber knew Mark was Invincible, but still gave him shit and manipulated him over it. She was better in Season 2 though tbf.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Idk i know what happens i still like her more. She looks super hot dude idk why mark didn't want to tap that honestly.

[@rhinestonepeter]

​@@CatotheE Yup, 100% agree. Problem with Amber in the show is that she is just an awful character that is not meant to be awful. She is completely unlikeable while the show tries to make you feel like she somehow is right all the time. It would be great if they would mention how toxic Amber was in S1, but I doubt that will happen. Anissa, while doing awful things, is at least interesting to read and is also meant to be an awful character.

[@Milk.moustache]

Anissa was actually really cool in the episode.. specially when all the blood flicked off after she flew through the kaiju

[@jude_the_dude2373]

I almost lost it when they showed the crater scene in the series 💀

[@TheDarkKnight-lf5ce]

6:43 😂

[@wertwuio283]

Smash, no question.

[@Hopefully-]

1000% agreed

[@Anissa-Viltrumite]

You boys couldn't handle me

[@pepito2847]

Anissa is a very complicated character that I am admittedly tense about seeing portrayed in the series But I do think she is a really interesting and cool character And before you accuse me of simping, I wanna be clear that I think the fight scenes she had with mark in the show are good and she played her role as an antagonist well And this video made me intrigued by her character growth in the comic

[@harshtimes23]

Not going to lie I'm in love with Anissa even before.

[@KeyIssues]

🥺

[@oluwadamilola6233]

Go outside

[@DylanJo123]

What lack of tail does to a mfer

[@FreeWorldOnGranny]

Nobody: Anissa: I cant mate with humans but once you go black you dont go back

[@jay-t1030]

Anissa is a QOS, if you know you know.

[@DaBlaccGhost]

​@@jay-t1030 where the gym rat QoS's at

[@fork3810]

I’m not gonna lie, I don’t see Anissa doing the straight up assault in the show version. Her dialogue and delivery makes her come off as genuinely well meaning, although she is still very much cruel, cold, and blunt about it; just like Nolan. But she never stops being reasonable, driving home the point that more humans will be better off under Viltrum rule. She even has a line which implies she does not enjoy violence and is only interested in benefiting people; though her methods are of course wrong. I feel like they’re building her up for an eventual redemption already, and I don’t think the assault is necessary to show her become better. Especially since, at least how it’s presented here, her redemption seemingly comes out of absolutely nowhere in the comic. Maybe I’m wrong, I just can’t see her doing it.

[@Jakefrmstate0]

I do very main part of the story that’s how he has his first kid

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@Jakefrmstate0I say keep the act throw out the redemption. I’d never buy Homelander feeling sorry for what he did to Becca and this is no different.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@li-limandragon9287 See this is perfect.

[@IvanMoncure]

Erasing Mark as a rape victim would remove a pretty major part of his development tho

[@IvanMoncure]

@@li-limandragon9287It’s absolutely different. Anissa is a product of an evil species who raised them in abuse and hate. The whole point of the show is how the Viltrumites become better. How humanity makes them better, breaks the cycle of violence, and turns their power into a positive force for the universe for the first time. If Anissa can’t be redeemed, why can Nolan? He’s killed billions, genocided entire civilizations with his own hands. If he can be forgiven, so can she.

[@SoranotRoxas]

Oh boy... and here we go 😅

[@AyeAshh]

Anissa was wilding

[@terrelltownsend8016]

To think she's being voiced by "Becca Butcher" from The Boys.

[@M.W.K6996]

I honestly wish that Anissa lived in the comics (to further develop her redemption).

[@li-limandragon9287]

Yeah screw that, Eve should’ve taken her skin off like she did with Conquest.

[@diegopansini3152]

@@li-limandragon9287Sure, let’s kill Nolan and all the other Viltrumites while we’re at it

[@diegopansini3152]

I see her sacrifice as consequence for what she’s done. She did redeem herself, kinda like how Vader redeemed with Luke in the last minute

[@augustgremaud2738]

@@diegopansini3152except that she didn’t fully repent because she felt like her kid was a post-hoc justification. Still deeply problematic.

[@diegopansini3152]

@@augustgremaud2738 She loves her kid regardless of how he was made, that’s normal

[@user-nc4ci8et9l]

I liked that they changed her from her comic self instead of the manifest of them she's more logical and wants Mark to think about his actions against the empire

[@ivanshopov9559]

Her re-design is such an W

[@TheQuincyEdwards]

I like Anissa better than Amber already.

[@KeyIssues]

*cursed comment*

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

This guy is either joking or has never read the comics.

[@dwecktek]

Based comment

[@johnfelix503]

​@@SpammytheHedgehogBro I get why you think that but let's not forget that she gets a redemption arc later in the comics.

[@zashgekido5616]

@@johnfelix503 Not exactly a good one-

[@TevyaSmolka]

Yeah Anissa is such a monster

[@li-limandragon9287]

Que the inevitable: “bUT nOlaN wAS fOrGivEN”. Rape is much more evil than just murder.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@li-limandragon9287 both are bad but for different reasons but still bad in my opinion.

[@KingM119]

​@@li-limandragon9287yeaah..no. They are both heinous act, you cannot say one is better. Than the other.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@KingM119Both are bad, but one does 100x times the trauma and can lead to other things such as pregnancy.

[@JohnWall-lj1mx]

@@li-limandragon9287no murder is way worse

[@9adam4]

"Kinda bossy sometimes" - she lied and manipulated him for saying lives.

[@simosan22]

anissa on her death bed: "sorry not sorry"

[@IvanMoncure]

A lot of people seem to hate Anissa’s redemption, but I think it’s an important part of the series and of Mark’s journey in particular. Anissa isn’t any worse than Nolan, not when you really consider all the genocide. We just don’t spend so much time with Nolan’s victims so we don’t feel for the pain he caused, but the moral of the whole series is that death isn’t retribution. Dying for your crimes fixes nothing, helps no one except anyone you planned to hurt in the future. The viltrumite species deserves extinction if we are metering out death for death. Instead their eventual destiny is to live to improve the lives of others.

[@diegopansini3152]

Agreed, people give Anissa too much flak. If Anissa can’t have a redemption arc, neither can Nolan or any of the other Viltrumites

[@Minetic]

As Kratos said, they have to be better, for sake of their children.

[@KarazolaX]

Doesn't Anissa literally do the worst thing you can possibly do to another human being to Mark? One that you can't say on youtube without getting autocensored?

[@diegopansini3152]

@@KarazolaX All Viltrumites do various of the worst things you can do to someone else

[@IvanMoncure]

@@KarazolaX Genocide of millions is pretty bad. I don’t want to downplay r🦍, but plenty of people would be simialrly victimized downstream of a genocide.

[@16ktsgamma]

Amber from the Show from season 1 is the worst character in the entire show. I don't think your videos can change that. I know how they messed her up. It was the last episode of Mark and her fighting. That got everybody on Mark's side. That is not how you write a character. Anissa is probably better written in the comics but she is also bad from the comics. So I don't know until we see the point of her trying to have Marky. OH GOD. The show is going to have to write her better.

[@dnmstarsi]

I think Opinions especially when some folks probably don't understand the entirety of Season 1 Amber especially after Season 2 involvement. Honestly, feels like a lot of folks don't get Amber even when she sounds full of it.

[@jujudidntmakeit8130]

Her redemption is beautifully written