Anna Shcherbakova, Liza Tuktamysheva, Kaori Sakamoto Jump Scores World Team Trophy 2021 SP

Hi, the short program at WTT 2021 is done and on this video we make an analysis of all the jumps of the current ladies top 3, looking for their clean rotations and correct edges on jumps, hope you all like it !
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[@WeLoveSkating1]

Who was your favorite today in the short program ! Mine Liza

[@bellafiori3430]

Me too!

[@quatele]

Liza +1

[@MrTumnus82]

Agree

[@eloisamaglaya8704]

Kaori!!! ❤❤❤

[@nijoesmil25]

Same She s the only one having a good technique

[@jnielson3683]

Love Anna so much! So excited to see her Lutz improvements. Also excited to see such a tight score between her and Liza!!! FAIR JUDGING! Anna winning on her own merits!!!! 🙌🙌🙌 Liza seriously has amazing jumping technique...... she just kind of skates awkwardly to me..... seems a little flat. Watching Anna skate is an emotional experience.

[@simplyvanessa9419]

I personnaly don't get the hype about Anna and I think that she was still overscored in PCS but since some other skaters were overscored too she deserved to win

[@quadlutzes5788]

@@simplyvanessa9419 she does well in interpretation and performance, but that's it. i have never understood why the "chosen one" of the season gets straight high 9's in every category when they don't deserve them. her skating skills are incredibly weak, especially when compared to someone like kaori, who has the best skating skills in the field currently.

[@candyc3314]

She's warming up to me! Really happy to see progress on the lutz edge.

[@Nightsky100]

With fair judging she will be 2nd or 3rd , her compo was (q) but she got +2 goe instead of - 1 or - 2. And i agree with you she is improved in her luts.

[@lauralorry1196]

@@Nightsky100 fair judging then go audition to become judge , everyone is fairly judged.Why dont you start a petition rather than badmouthing someone who is out of your league, go to isu

[@candyc3314]

I'm just gonna say I'm proud of Anna for working on her Lz edge and toepick.

[@mikelara2151]

Kaori has so much more lift in that axel. If she only took a deep knee into the jump. She could easily get the triple.

[@serbetarnasy4365]

👍

[@joeyartk]

Kaori can't rotate fast enough to get a 3A. She also relies on her speed more than jumping ability in her axle. That makes a 3A very difficult to control, unlike Wakaba, for instance, who relies more on jumping ability. That is why she has had more success with a 3A than Kaori, despite also not being a fast rotator.

[@Asmet2009]

Выходит у Лизы правильные и качественные прыжки

[@userbunny14]

I think this was the most fairly scored event Ive seen in a long time. Liza's tech was higher because of the 3A, and Anna's PCS was higher because Liza can come off a little stiff with less transitions. Then Kaori tech was lower because her combo was a 3T combo.

[@qiqisongs]

Kaori’s jumps were bigger than Anna’s tho. So...

[@liitbro]

@@qiqisongs So?

[@annann6741]

@@qiqisongs Annas is doing her jumps with both hands up.

[@simplyvanessa9419]

@@annann6741 For some skaters this is an advantage and it's easier for them to jump ribbon jumps... So I wouldn't consider it as a more difficult thing... It's only my opinion though

[@fsmilka8021]

@@qiqisongs Kaori has a Flutz which was not called

[@dianamcdermott4581]

Anna is the best ❤️

[@yohanes2034]

Kaori lutz edge here is probably one of the better she has ever produced. Usually no slow motion to see the change of edge but this time, I would say it's cleaner and she managed to hold it longer. But it's still inside though so I think she should go back to her beautiful 3Lo

[@nicnoodles]

Liza program seemed harder! But Anna skated great too

[@candyc3314]

She definitely has the edge technically with the 3A, but Anna also has the harder combination over Liza with a 3Lz3Lo so it kind of balances out a bit. Liza did win the technical score, but Anna won with the PCS score and since her program is pretty close in points tech-wise she ended up winning the short overall. Competition definitely seemed to be scored more fairly though.

[@tateurdina]

Liza Tuktamysheva

[@юлияюлия-щ4ф1б]

Когда закончите учитывать отрыв от льда? Это не учитывается в оценках и запрещено рассматривать в замедленном формате! Смотрят только рёбра и и недокруты. Если заметили у всех происходит крутка в момент отталкивания, а не отрыва, это физика прыжка. Поэтому и не учитывают, а вы, как дятлы одно и тоже. А выезды у Ани все чистые, и уж в Японии за этим точно смотрят.

[@kris_the_analyst]

Очень странно, когда в виде спорта запрещены полноценные пересмотры в замедленном повторе, из-за чего прыжки с ущербной техникой выигрывают у эталонных прыжков. Это и к парням относится.

[@юлияюлия-щ4ф1б]

@@kris_the_analyst всё правильно, они смотрят, то что можно улучшить, сделать, как Вы говорите, эталонным, а отрыв у всех с поворотом, нет ни кого, у кого нет поворота, он либо больше, либо меньше, но есть у всех, поскольку это физика прыжка, Вы не сможете сначало прыгнуть, а потом в воздухе вертеться, не от чего будет отталкиваться. Поэтому принято решение, если этот поворот виден не вооружённым, так сказать, глазом, без замедления, он наказывается, но это бывает крайне редко, это нарушение техники прыжка, тоже самое, что прыгать тулуп на ход вперёд, у малышей бывает,крутят оборот конкретно на льду,но они учатся. Или надо все тройные прыжки называть 2.5 а Аксель 2. Но это ни кто делать не будет.

[@ТатьянаБритых-о9и]

Если честно я на поворот тела вообще не смотрю, я смотрю отрыв конька и поворот коньков.

[@юлияюлия-щ4ф1б]

@@ТатьянаБритых-о9и то есть ноги отдельно, тело отдельно? Поворот конька при отрыве, это и есть момент отталкивания, начать крутиться в воздухе прыгнув просто вверх и вперёд не возможно, не отчего оттолкнуться, поэтому поворот начинается в момент отталкивания и отрыв происходит не сразу, поэтому этот момент в правилах и не разрешили смотреть замедленном формате. Только ребро и приземление, недокрут. Наказывается момент отталкивания, если само отталкивание произошло ходом вперёд на всех прыжках кроме Акселя, но это бывает только деток, которые учиться, а на соревнованиях я этого вообще немыстречаоа.

[@юлияюлия-щ4ф1б]

@@ТатьянаБритых-о9и не встречала. Вот ошибок в одном слове посадила.

[@yimeizi2648]

Anna’s toe pick is also cleaner than before

[@ИринаСоколова-ц6т]

Лиза!!! Браво!!

[@sarikachahal6188]

Wait so they ! Anna's flip but they didn't e Kaori's lutz?!

[@alexal.8184]

i know right it was unfair

[@jakeskates631]

Liza was brilliant. Although i think Kaori was close to perfection.

[@drogosdragoon8879]

Liza was amazing

[@atanaspetrov7752]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@nijoesmil25]

Like why ppl keep saying kaori has gd technique (or is close to perfection) ? With inside edge and 1/2 prerotation ? (I d say full blade but not sure) She s pretty similar to anna n ppl r only criticizing anna

[@jakeskates631]

@@nijoesmil25 Is that a joke, have you seen her axel, flip toe, and loop? Lol pretty well perfection.

[@MrTumnus82]

@@jakeskates631 we've also seen her lutz

[@divanka815]

Will you be analyzing their FS? Liza did 3Aq in her FS (solo jump) but the judges didn’t notice this at all

[@chamallow989]

I was so happy to see that Anna improved her outside edge on her lutz ! Finally people will stop bashing her for that single reason.

[@AC-zs8su]

Wow so many debates. I’m actually gonna say my opinion too then. For me anna was the star of the night. I don’t think i’ve ever seen her do this short program with such grace, passion and emotion. Her lines were perfect, her musicality, her facial expressions, transitions, speed etc. She really emotes when she skates which cannot be said about any other skater at this event. Her PCSs are deservingly higher than anyone’s. Now to the technical part. Liza was the best. Her skating skills and musicality are not that great but her tech was top notch. Her technique is by far the best in the ladies event, along with rika. She deserves the highest technical score which she did receive. I agree that the judges could have gave her higher GOEs but it balanced out because she received inflated pcs. Anna’s technique was a bit better. Her edge on the lutz was flat or slightly outside!! Which made me very happy. She received a ! on her flip which i thought was fair. And now to kaori, everyone is commenting on how great she was and i agree that she was good and deserves to finish 3rd but how can some people say that she is better than anna at pcs?? Kaori is by no means better than anna at pcs. Nor at technique. She has lower base value + a DEEP INSIDE EDGE on the lutz which should have been called and deducted but wasn’t. Overall i think the rankings are correct.

[@quadlutzes5788]

i'm not sure if you've ever actually skated before or how familiar you are with the scoring system, but let me explain the kaori pcs thing. kaori has the best basic skills in the ladies field. she only uses her legs to move around, she does it incredibly quickly, she builds up speed with only 2 crossovers, has great turnout etc. simply put, anna does not really have these things. while anna is superior to most in interpretation and performance, the other 3 categories (skating skills, composition, transitions) are assessing the basics of the skaters technique. anna all 5 categories of pcs ARE not and SHOULD not be assessed based off of how "emotional" or "graceful" a skater is. they should receive high marks where they are strongest and lower marks where they are weaker. so yes, anna deserves high marks in 2/5 pcs categories, not all 5. it's an abuse of the very system the isu themselves put into place.

[@starcrushed]

What emotes? Anna has only the one same agony expression for all her programs, just look at her SP video thumbnail.

[@youlikethischainits3dollar157]

I think you need to read PCS before saying an opinion about who deserves it better Skating Skills (SS): edge control, depth of edges, command of speed and acceleration, flow and glide, multi-directional and one-foot skating, making the skating look effortless Transitions (TR): footwork, positions and movements linking elements together, including entrances and exits of elements, variety, complexity, and quality of linking footwork between elements Performance (PE): physical, intellectual, and emotional involvement, clarity, quality, and variety of movement, body carriage, projection to the audience, personality, unity between partners in pairs/dance Composition (CO): arrangement of movement in a program, including matching movements to music, purpose and originality of the program, ice coverage and use of space Interpretation (IN) (/Timing, for ice dance): personal and creative translation of music into movement on the ice, expression of the character, rhythm, and nuances of the music, moving in time to the music/beat (especially in ice dance) I think Anna is still lacking in control and command of speed. Her spins still is travelling which shows another reason what's lacking. She's still young, she has a lot to learn. Composition not quite there. Also her Transitions are pretty basic, it does not have High difficulty when entering and exit of a jump. In comparison to Kaori - She has speed. Speed with difficult transitions when entering jumps and not losing speed for the exit. Her speed also helps her Cover the ice. She has also great timing in Nuances of music, hits every beat when jumping - which also gives her points in composition. Performance wise she connects with people, as her program has enough artistry with variety of choreographies.

[@НаталияЩетинина-с2п]

@@quadlutzes5788 don't even say about Anna's technique. It goes without say that she has not only perfect technique but posesses ultra elements like lutz-loop combination, not to mention quads. And didn't you notice the transitions she makes after jumps? Can all that be compared to Liza or Kaori? And her speed is much higher than Liza's. All that add up to the final score. Saying about Kaory she needs to work with her hands, they look heavy, she moves like a robot with them.

[@charistsai7939]

@@starcrushed OMG that's literally what I want to say, can't agree with you more

[@antralaitane3236]

Really love Kaori jumps: free, strong. She is wonderful.

[@jakobmax3299]

"Nobody Moves lik Kaori Sakamoto in the womens field" Belinda

[@smilenews2224]

We can see that Anna worked on an edge on Lutz. Her Toe Pick has gotten better, too. Unfortunately, because of the edge on the lutz, it's now unclear on the flip:( I also like Liza’s Lz+3T and Kaori’s 2A

[@suihan1540]

Kaori's lutz graded with + goe in only japan. İt is flutz. And the judges must give ! Edge and q for scherbakova's combination too. This is unfair. Liza should have been first in short Nd second in free

[@yeyeyeye350]

😔👏👏👏

[@amandadean5470]

My favourites were Kaori and Liza! 💖😊🇯🇵⛸🇷🇺⛸

[@irenem3306]

Anna,the Queen!!!👑 ❤️

[@СладкевичВлад]

Каори конечно дала. Обзоры как всегда бесподобны!🥰

[@liitbro]

I don't think Anna deserves a q call, or at least should be given a benefit of doubt. Her slight outside edge on the lutz is the biggest surprise for me in this event. Happy to see Liza rotating her 3-3 combo! Throw in another quad in the free skate and she's going to the olympic!

[@yenlik5165]

Seems like Anna been working on her spins too after Stockholm. Or she just more relaxed and focused this time, there is no Trusova around jumping 5 quads in a row😄

[@yohanes2034]

Liza is still fighting and keep getting better with age. She has been having issue with rotating 3-3 jumps since ever but in here it's pretty clean. She also has upgraded her combo in the FP by ditching 2A sequence and replacing it with eu-3S combo. So happy to see a mature adult skater still trying to improve technically.

[@emmcampbell4434]

Lutz edge aside, Kaori's jumps are the most beautiful to me, featherlight landings and fantastic running edge!

[@atanaspetrov7752]

Are we not going to comment on Anna’s full blade assist on the flip and lutz and how insanely pre rotated they are?!

[@MrTumnus82]

No, we're not

[@noemi5225]

there are no deductions for pre-rotations for anyone

[@angieortizurena3327]

Why, if judges don’t care and hardcore fans will defend her till the edge of the world, even though at this point is insulting?

[@noemi5225]

@@angieortizurena3327 I agree that this should be considered, I’m just saying that it’s not the judges’ fault because there are no rules on prerotation. But they can be blamed for a lot of other things...

[@yohanes2034]

It's not penalized in the current rules. So regardless of how ugly it looks, that technique is fine according to ISU

[@edzzzkie]

I really thought Liza should have been 1st place.

[@vd5234]

I agree with the placements, Liza is all about the jumps and that’s not enjoyable she is very heavy on ice and no transitions at all

[@ludmilailina1107]

Выезды с прыжков у Анны бесподобные

[@ШлябинаТатьяна]

ну как всегда недокруты не видят,знай грибуют,особенно каскад ужас просто,Лизин каскад шикарно исполнен,а грибов в половину меньше

[@chernosliiiv]

@@ШлябинаТатьяна Плющеботам вечно все не нравится) А грибы у вас в голове :) Вы так орали везде, что на зарубежных стартах никаких грибов не будет, судья будут оценивать честно. Вот они и оценивают честно :) Ущемились снова? И, если вы снова начнёте заливать, что это Этери Георгиевна всех купила, то не позорьтесь, это так глупо и смешно выглядит) Если она всех судей «подкупила», то почему-то на ребро на флипе как-то не хватило, лол🤡

[@ШлябинаТатьяна]

@@chernosliiiv да первый раз и поставили это ребро за весь сезон,пересмотрите все программы Ани,там все прыги или с плоских или с неправильных,но поставили именно на международных в японии,а лутц она в этот раз сделала с наружного,поработала над ним.Но все равно каскад этот с недокрутом был,опять не увидели и вообще ритт сделала меньше 2-х оборотов,ужасно каскад выполнила. Лакерник был председателем техбригады,что здесь что на ЧМ,постарался. А за Лизу обидно,у нее прыги на порядок лучше Аниных,но грибов А не даже за дупель больше поставили,чем за Лизин идеальный триксель ,если взять процент от базы. Да и каскад Лиза идеально выполнила в отличие от недокаскада у Ани. Плохо Аня прыгает,все прыги у нее ужасные,я это всегда говорила и буду говорить.

[@chernosliiiv]

@@ШлябинаТатьяна Раз вы такие грамотные и все видите, что же вы не сидите в судейской бригаде?) Там, видимо, одни непрофессионалы сидят, которые все моргают :) И есть ли смысл им «грибовать» не только Щербакову в таком случае, а вообще всех наших спортсменов?)

[@ШлябинаТатьяна]

@@chernosliiiv не случилось, но очень жаль

[@ДмитрийМатросов-ц2е]

ЛОЖЬ про тройной Loop. Аня опустилась позже не лед чем утверждаешь, так что нет недокрута

[@МинжефарСаттарова]

Да им важнее русских брать под сомнение. Прыжки Каори с кривыми толстыми ногами для них и красивее, и техничнее. Ищут грязь под ногтями.

[@ШлябинаТатьяна]

но на видео недокрут и не слабый

[@ДмитрийМатросов-ц2е]

@@ШлябинаТатьяна с этого ракурска я не вижу момент приземления Ани.. обычно когда докручивают на льду летит лед из под конька там этого нет. если и есть недокрут то в пределах нормы но никак не четверть

[@ШлябинаТатьяна]

@@ДмитрийМатросов-ц2е я вижу четверть, не по льду из под конька смотрите,а полное ребро приземленное рисует галку на льду,полное ребро стоит к нам кормой,даже левее,а выезд же не на нас,а на 90 градусов от того,как встала на полное ребро,то есть левым боком

[@ДмитрийМатросов-ц2е]

@@ШлябинаТатьяна Нет не левее в момент приземления плоскость ребра уже правее потому четверти нет... в любом случае с таким качеством видео и с таким ракурсом друг друга ни в чем не убедим.. оптимально было бы увидеть рисунок на льду.. но его нет.. Вообще политика этого канала разжигать споры а не находить истину

[@spaceships.s344]

I learn stuff here 😄 Kaori's 2A is stunning!!

[@ryuhyunhee]

I know the video is about their jump technique but I don't agree with Anna's pcs of 37.56 which is more than Kostornaia ever got at her peak?? Is it just me who thinks Anna's pcs shouldn't be that high? Anyways they all jumped really beautifully

[@SergejKrolik]

Anna's PCS should be even higher. It's Liza's PCS that's hugely overscored. Negrello skated better than her.

[@skatergirl1247]

@@SergejKrolik At least Liza has deep edges and nice speed, effortless ice coverage. Anna has neither. While she has nice interpretation, she never has made me feel anything like Kostornaia did. She's good, but not a Carolina, Mao, or Michelle, and I really don't think she ever will be.

[@SergejKrolik]

@@skatergirl1247 what you said is a blatant lie.

[@skatergirl1247]

@@SergejKrolik My opinion. You don't have to agree, but those are my opinions, and observations by watching the 3 of them compete.

[@liitbro]

@@skatergirl1247 Those are not opinions. Edges, speed and ice coverage are quantifiable and objective. Liza has neither of those, and I'm not saying that Anna has either.

[@LenaLight0204]

リーザは安定感がハンパないね。80点台なのは納得出来る。

[@nipaipo36100]

i had liza 81 over anna 78 and kaori 76.

[@Nightsky100]

Liza is the only one with good techniques, she deserved higher goe.

[@quadlutzes5788]

@Tara Radoicic proper technique and the awarding of grade of execution is not subjective or somebody's "opinion". the isu has a set of bullet points for adding and removing goe, liza often hits 4-5 of the positives and none or one of the negatives, which would count as a +3 to +5 depending on the specific jumping pass. obviously this depends greatly on each element, this is just in general. you don't have to "like" it to award a +5 if it fits the guidelines for a +5. there is a subjective way of viewing technical elements, stop treating this scoring system like 6.0 and actually hold each element to the new scoring guidelines. also, please look at the rules and study them before you comment next time.

[@Nightsky100]

@Tara Radoicic its not my opinion she has clear edge and good toe pick + landed clean, they underscored her goe.. But with anna they overscored her compo 3lz (!) 3loop (q) she deserved goe - 1 to - 2 , but they gave her +2.

[@Nightsky100]

@@quadlutzes5788 100% agree with you :)

[@SergejKrolik]

Figure skating is not only jumps. If you want to compare top 3 skaters there - compare all their elements. And even then you can claim or imply anything only about their TES score - and TES score alone. By which Liza was first anyway, btw.

[@simplyvanessa9419]

The title of the video is jump score anslysis... So just their jumps are compared lol

[@tramdang7011]

FS is not only jumps. Eteri's fans always said that but Eteri's skater get a lot GOE with WRONG technique jumps. They should do a simple jump with RIGHT technique instead of doing a quad with their lack of technique.

[@simplyvanessa9419]

@@tramdang7011 I think soo that but if I were them I would do the same thing since they never get called out!

[@edzzzkie]

Yes, figure skating is not only about jumps. However, if you jump using wrong technique you should not receive high GOEs as well.

[@quadlutzes5788]

@@edzzzkie while i completely agree with you, theres actually not really a goe bullet-point for calling out bad technique.

[@mbaxromov40]

Anna's skating is really beautiful and emotional. To be honest Anna is more emotional than Medvedeva. Anna has emotions even during the jump. I like also Kamila's, Zhenya's, Aliona's, Isabo's skating. But Aliona hasn't emotions. She has only amazing skating skills. Anna and Kamila have everything. They are the best of the best

[@sandrabrown3276]

Anna = Medvedeba season2

[@ゆずみかん-b7c]

坂本選手のジャンプは本当に見ててスカッとしますね スピード感が素晴らしい

[@elenachernaya1552]

Техническая составляющая у Лизы всё равно выше!!! И где все кто говорил что Туктамышева слабее всех малолетних??? Лиза молодец!!!

[@НаталияЩетинина-с2п]

Так Лиза и оказалась слабее. Какие ещё вопросы?

[@elenachernaya1552]

@@НаталияЩетинина-с2п вопросов очень много к судьям...

[@nikitashaitan9984]

@@elenachernaya1552 каких вопросов? Всё как надо. У Лизы контент не такой уж и серьёзный по баллам. Да, 2 трикселя. Но комбинации с двойными прыжками. У неё 3 двойных прыжка + двойной аксель. Все плюсы от трикселей в ПП сходят на нет

[@НаталияЩетинина-с2п]

@@elenachernaya1552 а к ним вечные вопросы, они были и будут всегда. Естественно неприятно, когда фаворитка проигрывает, даже если она вообще никакая....

[@Fiona-ke1wn]

@@nikitashaitan9984 Плюс у Щербаковой сложные заходы и выезды с прыжков, которые дополнительно ей плюсуют. А вращения и компоненты Анны и Лизы вообще не сравнить. Лиза молодец, но ее катание 2015 года.

[@stressbook9832]

Liza.

[@eljj7968]

All three had pretty much flawless performances. Liza is always my personal favourite to watch, I love her energy. Kaori has my personal favourite style of skating - big, powerful and fast. I appreciate Anna's consistency, but find her boring to watch, just not my taste, and her jumps are awkward (I wouldn't have called that loop Q though, it was around). Liza has by far the best jump technique.

[@helentuma]

Фигурное катание это не только прыжки, так что однозначно Анна лучшая!

[@ИринаПронина-з3л]

Техническую оценку выиграла Лиза в короткой на этом Чм и это абсолютно по делу.

[@olgavlasova2235]

If you love skating, please analyze whole program! Jumps are only small pars of the program. The beauty of the program includes rotations and a story which performer tells us by their program. Jump itself is an element of acrobatic, so you more likely deserve acrobatic than skating!

[@cutiepie-lh7fj]

Anna's fans always say that because Anna is not perfect in jumps.

[@quadlutzes5788]

this video is just a jump analysis to show slow motion and edges, nothing more. many people discuss whole routines or just pcs, spins, stsq etc if you want to find those and watch them instead.

[@WeLoveSkating1]

Hi ! When i analyze the whole program with spins and stsq i put ‘vs’ in the title of the video, this is just jumps !

[@ボールミート-l4x]

坂本さんの演技は素晴らしかったです！ ただルッツのエラーは国内だから見逃された感じがします！ おそらく国外だとエラー取られるかもしれません！

[@water9951]

I am happy about their edge attention and quarter calls for Anna this time. I think it’s fair.

[@yohanes2034]

I was surprised she got ! for her flip, if I recall correctly this is the first time she got it in senior (she got several in junior). ISU is strange, sometimes very strict with flip but very lenient (most of the time woth top skaters) with lutz edges.

[@water9951]

@@yohanes2034 yea I know right! I’m happy about the result that finally her jump edge was called even just one. I think so too:( they have been very strict about some skaters’ lutz jump but when it comes to flip I feel it’s less strict. I don’t know is it maybe because less skaters have wrong flip edge...? But in my opinion, Anna’s lutz edge this time looks like either flat or slightly outside from this footage so... meh haha

[@nikitashaitan9984]

Well she always has flat edge. She does not have either flutz or lip, so base value is always the same. ! mark gives -1-2 goe. If they don’t give ! mark, they still reduce goe by 1 if it looks unclear. So even if they did not give her marks, she still had less goe than if she had a required edge. Not a big difference, really.

[@smilenews2224]

@@yohanes2034 but Kaori didn’t got E on the Lutz 😠

[@water9951]

@@smilenews2224 true her lutz edge was clearly inside.

[@クジラブリ大根]

坂本選手のルッツはエッジさえ正確ならものすごく質のいいジャンプなんだと思うのですが とてももったいないですね。 今回のルッツは今までよりもだいぶ良くなってた気がするのですが、まだちょっとインサイドかなぁ。 でも全体的に質の高い演技だったと思います！

[@mbaxromov40]

Anna's PCS is so underscored

[@annystasia]

Liza should have won! And Anna's skating skills were marked higher than Kaori's, what a joke!

[@skatergirl1247]

Yeah, I found that sketchy

[@SergejKrolik]

"Bad" Anna's SS is getting really old myth. In reality she has very solid SS - both in terms of speed, ice coverage, edges depth and one-foot skating. Especially one-foot skating. Even Kaori can't skate this much on one foot - and it's one of the hardest things ever.

[@Nightsky100]

@@SergejKrolik if anna was scored fairly, she wouldnt be first place . Anna's lutz is complete mess and they gave her higher goe in compo even though she didnt land the loop well unlike liza with textbook lutz

[@nikitashaitan9984]

@@Nightsky100 “complete mess” She has an unclear edge and been showing for the last 2 years she’s been working both on it and toe pick assistance which also improved. ‘Total mess’ is too exaggerated. Her Lutz is fine. She has slight errors according to ISU rules.

[@majamaes1172]

I don’t think she’s working on it, why would she? she gets the points anyway. Also when did the judges decide anna should always win?

[@lexus4231]

シェルバコワに甘いな。

[@Ardit-kq4bt]

and again Liza was robbed. This Sherbakova bonus need to stop ASAP

[@qiqisongs]

Hmm. Liza’s PCS shouldnt be this high.... Her transition and skating skills lacking. But her TES should be much higher than that of Anna’s. Kaori has much much better skating skills than both Liza and Anna but her PCS is only less than one point more than that of Liza’s and 2 points less than that of Anna’s @@

[@nikitashaitan9984]

If you do math and research you’d know why it’s this way. It actually fair. I’ll help you: 1. Liza lacks in spins compared to Anna. So GoE of Anna’s 3 spins in summary gave her at least 1 point advantage 2. Liza got 10 points for 3A. Anna got 4,5 for 2A. Now it’s 4,5 points in Liza’s advantage. 3. Liza’s combo was 3Lz-3T (9,5 base) Anna’s was 3Lz-3Lo (10,8 base) in bonus zone, which gave her +1,3 in base value + 1,08 on bonus + higher GoE because of higher base value, and liza’s bonus of her 3F (5,3 base) was 0,5. So Anna got at least +2 points advantage on her combo. Now the gap is 2,5 points. And she nailed that combo beautifully so she had higher GoE. If Liza did the same as Anna did except for 3A instead of 2A (3 F solo, 3Lz-3Lo in second half), she’d have 48-49 Tes.

[@Rum001]

У Ани прыжки со сложными заходами и выездами, плюс с руками наверх. Так почему ее гое ниже, чем у Каори

[@fatimaabdikayir5418]

У Ани на лутце не верное ребро это раз,во вторых небольшой недокрут на Риттбергере

[@Rum001]

fatima abdikayir в протоколе про недокрут ни слова🤷🏻‍♀️

[@fatimaabdikayir5418]

@@Rum001 я не смотрела протокол,поэтому ориентировалась по этому видео)

[@ТатьянаБритых-о9и]

@@fatimaabdikayir5418 а вы смотрите. Зачем смотреть видео с не важного ракурса. Где можно и не увидеть многое

[@alexander28110]

@@Rum001 Да, раньше Анне прощали недокруты и неправельные рёбра, хотя эти ошибки были очевидными.

[@72586jejones]

Overall, most fair judging I have seen in a while!

[@erikapetrova3153]

When you guys realize that flip is not actually jumped from deep inside edge but from really slightly inside and Anna jumped it from correct edge. But her lutz was clearly flat. She tried to keep outside really long but when you stop that before take off you see clear flat lutz. This video is full of mistakes 🥲

[@quadlutzes5788]

per isu guidelines, the flip jump should have a cleary inside edge. it obviously can't be deep, because that would be weird on the foot, but it needs to be at least slightly inside. a clearly flat edge constitutes a ! mark. the ! mark was specifically created for flat edges, as a clearly opposite edge would warrant an e call. there aren't any good angles of anna's flip available currently. the technical panel has many more angles they can look at to assess, i really don't think they would have marked their favorite skater, who never recieves ! or e marks for her lutz, a call unless there were actually something wrong with it.

[@erikapetrova3153]

@@quadlutzes5788 Idk I still see slightly inside edge. But it’s a bad angle so who knows. But if you’re right and Anna has flat Flip. She has got a little bit problem because her main jumps or Idk how to say, her jump which she got the most points from-Lutz, Flip (triple,quad) are jumped from flat edge. Because I am 100% sure that Anna still has flat edge on her lutz.

[@quadlutzes5788]

@@erikapetrova3153 this particular lutz was actually slightly outside if you look at it from the back angle. it's not much, but it's better than it usually is.

[@erikapetrova3153]

@@quadlutzes5788 no really wasn’t I can send you a screenshot when she has clear flat edge. This video is just stopped earlier than she take off and there still was a second where her edge came to the outside edge

[@quadlutzes5788]

@@erikapetrova3153 i have multiple captures of different points in the jump myself, i check edges when i do rescores for my blog lol

[@abhaydeshpande2044]

81% 👍👍👍🎉💐

[@Мария-п2ц1л]

I am waiting for the video like this about free program. And thanks so much for this video!

[@Rum001]

Anna should be more higher than Kaori. Her jumps were with hands up and difficult transitions

[@quadlutzes5788]

jumping with arms up is not a merit for grade of execution anymore, please read the rule book before you comment please!

[@Rum001]

quad lutzes but Anna’s jump approaches and landings were more difficult than Kaori

[@pjchj3599]

Kaori is everythings except true lutz Anna is everythings except true lutz & all of her toe jumps is too much prerotated and not use toe pick Liza is everythings except soft knee bend & speed

[@eliskawitosova9387]

Anna Shcherbakova's jumps are overrated. I think the judges just don't want to see her bad lutz edges or the big prerotation, because she is just so popular.

[@fsmilka8021]

They don't want to see Kaori's edges

[@benp3485]

What happened to Rika Kihira?

[@soyaaa_4385]

I think it was fairly

[@ruthantwi6293]

9c

[@sebastianenjcb193]

I do not like the pcs scores they give to Anna, beautiful skater. Doesn’t mean you just give her the best components. Yuna Kim would be skating incredible short programs and her component score was always in the 30-33. Now all you have to do is skate pretty to get a 37! That kinda irritates me

[@jaanakhorosheva7804]

Yuna Kim skated when system was different. They changed rules in 2015. These scores can be compared.

[@jaanakhorosheva7804]

*can not

[@sebastianenjcb193]

@@jaanakhorosheva7804 ?

[@drogosdragoon8879]

I thought Anna’s 3Lo was weird, now i see why, overscored as always omg

[@SergejKrolik]

Why?

[@Nightsky100]

Im not sure but i think it was under rotated

[@SergejKrolik]

@@Nightsky100 what's weird about underrotated jump? It's pretty common in figure skating.

[@liitbro]

Why?

[@nikitashaitan9984]

It’s barely q mark though. If it was underrotated, by only 90 degrees. Which is not a lot. It’s even the same base value.

[@angieortizurena3327]

A Flat edge in a Lutz doesn’t mean she is “working”...she will not improve cause even though she does one of the most awful Flootz in the current season, she still gets higher marks than skaters with flawless technique....

[@SergejKrolik]

Why are you lying? It's Sakamoto doing flutz. Anna has flat edge at worst. Why slandering talented athletes?

[@liitbro]

It's not a flat edge. It's pretty obviously a slight outside edge

[@nikitashaitan9984]

Flutz = inside edge. Anna clearly has a flat edge. Lze = lower base value, -2-3 goe Lz! = same base value, -1-2 goe Lz (uncalled, but visible flat edge) = -1 goe

[@smilenews2224]

@@liitbro yes

[@gmp9521]

Каори, грубо, агрессивно, неженственно, по-- мужички....не хочется не только смотреть такое катание, но даже и спорить о нем..

[@drogosdragoon8879]

Анна не заслуживает первого места, а Лиза заслуживает

[@SergejKrolik]

Нет.

[@onnikkaona8564]

Лиза катается как деревянная, у Щербаковой пластики больше и хореографии больше, после Анны выделила бы Рику, но она, к сожалению, завалила тех составляющую программы(

[@МинжефарСаттарова]

Когда только перестанете навязывать свое абсурдное мнение навязывать другим. Всегда добавляйте "для меня".99% людей не согласны с вами.

[@ЛарисаДзебоева-з1я]

Аня, лучшая !!!

[@olgamatatov167]

@@onnikkaona8564 да

[@irinakatz579]

Спасибо большое за разбор прыжков. Скажите, пожалуйста, судьи не располагают такой техникой, чтобы разбирать прыжки? Наверняка, располагают. Собственно, квалифицированные судьи должны видеть и без замедления, как фигуристка входит в прыжок и как она из него выезжает. То, что чемпионка прыгает зубцовые с плоского ребра - это общеизвестно. Первый раз ей поставили за ее флуц "неясное ребро". Хотя почему "неясное"? Было ясно, что ребро плоское. А вот в 3LZ+3Lo для меня в Вашем фильме было неожиданностью, что она не докрутила риттбергер. Обычно она докручивает прыжки. Так за что же больше 2 баллов ГОЕ? Прыжки у Лизы самые чистые, Мишин ее этому научил. И у Сакамото тоже хорошие прыжки. Не всегда докручивает, ну ей-то, если не ошибаюсь 21г, хотя моложе, чем Лиза, но на 4 года старше Ани, да и веса значительно больше. А Лиза в плане техники в ее 24 года уникум. Программа короткая самая интересная у Лизы и она ее на ура откатала. Произвольная - моя любимая программа у Сакамото. Я ее пересматриваю много раз.

[@raeymond5552]

youtubeにまだ選手個々の動画が出てきてないうちから順位がわかるような動画をあげるようなことはしないで欲しい。

[@Whisperwildz]

Can anyone tell me why female dont jump quad in SP?

[@Wendy890412]

Unfortunately isu doesn’t allow ladies to do quads in SP (at least not yet)

[@quadlutzes5788]

the isu just doesn't allow it. this is to keep the sport more balanced and to keep the very few ladies doing quads from having too much of an advantage, because it would make the competition unfair. they always have the free skate to give it a try though!

[@beatrizv4883]

imo, kaori should be first. even though liza has a higher tes, I dont think her (and anna's) pcs should be this high.

[@Ore_no_nawa_Eren_Yeager]

lmao. What kind of mythical Sakamoto's pcs are you talking about? She is the most mediocre in pcs. skate like unemotional clumsy robot. what a joke! OVERSCORED!!!!

[@beatrizv4883]

@@Ore_no_nawa_Eren_Yeager stay mad bestie 🥰 kaori has better skating skills, better choreo and has better interpretation than your faves

[@Ore_no_nawa_Eren_Yeager]

@@beatrizv4883 she never win something at world or 4continents championships. so, stay mad about this bestie. 😏 was just overscored here because she skate at home. better what? "skating skills"??? Sakamoto??? She skate like a robot, ZERO emotions, no passionate, clumsy moves, she's like a beanpole on ice. yep, interpretation of the most mediocre skater. 👹😂🤢

[@beatrizv4883]

@@Ore_no_nawa_Eren_Yeager you clearly dont know much about skating 😂 but ok, whatever helps you sleep at night!

[@Ore_no_nawa_Eren_Yeager]

@@beatrizv4883 you clearly don't see that this Sakamoto is just nothing special. She will be forgotten in a couple of days 😂😂😂 It's you who clearly don't know anything about figure skating. What Sakamoto showed was just poor skating with heavy jumps and mediocre artistry. Talentless emotionless robot 😪

[@Albella93]

Лиза Каори Рика

[@drogosdragoon8879]

1. Liza 2. Kaori 3. Rika

[@jennyjennerjenner1147]

Rika?! She has urs for sure except fall

[@atanaspetrov7752]

It should be: Liza Kaori Anna

[@lomein222]

Y’all continually critique Anna and are always saying how she doesn’t deserve to win but just because rikas everyone’s favorite nobody wants to say anything even though she literally fell and usually has big mistakes in her programs yet people like you will still say she deserves to win

[@ericoliveira5599]

@@lomein222 as people always do with the triple a girls 🤡

[@МаринаФейнман]

Crazy fans will say that Rika should win even if she will just lay on ice and do nothing lol 😂

[@zeynnah1]

It's clearly Russia..always have the backing, you know 😩 Then usa. .. And Japan. ..one-man fight so sad .... Go Yuzu!!! .. I watch the comp because of your presence only 😕