Annabel Ahuriri-Driscoll On Defining Democracy

Michael Laws talks to Annabel Ahuriri-Driscoll about defining democracy.
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[@razorsharp8968]

My father was abandoned on a London street corner at 5 years of age because his parents could not care for him. He was housed by an orphanage. At 16 he lied about his age and went to war in the navy. The taught him how to look after himself. Getting sun-burnt was a court-martial offence, so he never let it happen. They taught him how to avoid stupid consequences by encouraging him to take responsibility for his actions. His ship was torpedoed by a German submarine and sank. He could not swim but he survived. He moved to New Zealand and led a productive life. He worked many jobs, some Management. He smoked most of his life, giving it up in his 70's. He never had a sweet tooth. He always ate meat and plenty of vegetables. He died at 88 of pneumonia after a bad infection. He was dealt a rough hand early on (like a lot of people from his time - so much for privilege) but all I ever saw him do was smile, be helpful, work hard, learn (he loved reading books), as well as look after and take responsibility for himself and his family. Near the end he visited a Doctor who told him he did not exist because he was not to be found on any computer database. The reason is because he had not seen a Doctor in over 50 years. That is how well he looked after his diet and health. At 72 he he asked me, "How many?". Not knowing what he was talking about I said; "15". He got down on the floor and did 15 push ups. He had every excuse, but would accept none of them and insisted on acting responsibly. When he died an insurance company (mostly) paid for his funeral. He wasn't rich but he was extremely generous and owed nobody anything. An example anybody can follow!

[@triumph-owner]

Basically make your own way in this world. Not waiting for it to be handed too you. I have grandparents that share a similar upbringing

[@saxdearing3395]

@razorsharp8968 My GG Grandfather was brought up in a London workhouse. After minimal parish schooling he was taught to lay bricks around the time the huge sewers were put down there. He worked very hard and ended up with a building business, employing 10 men. His sons had household servant's. Shows was determination can do.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

Your Dad sounds like one of nature's gentlemen.

[@Graham-fo8zv]

​@@triumph-owner So do I.

[@toranarama1]

Self responsibility will get you everywhere, entitlement will get you nowhere

[@diablojames]

As a Kiwi of Maori heritage allow me to enlighten the distinguished professor: our health statistics are caused by our poor dietary choices. No fancy degree or title required ...

[@grantmiller6570]

well said Sir.

[@valeriehughes1008]

Wise comments... very true... we need to take responsibility for our own health.

[@darrylsowerby7973]

@@diablojames how do you know that. I think you are assuming that everyone is the same and ignorantly think that means that our health outcomes should be the same. So my grandfather died of cancer and never smoked . Was that his lifestyle choice you ignorant ass.

[@lockk132]

Yours is the curse of Polynesian genetics in relation to food.Despite having great genetics for physical sports all Polynesian are very susceptible to putting on massive weight and heart disease,diabetes, and obstructive breathing from high energy diets.Well documented thru the islands with introduction of high energy European foods over the last century or 2.

[@mikenewton9439]

The aftermath of bad choices inevitability ends up at the doorstep of the health system, and taxpayers are again expected to pick up the slack for people who make bad choices

[@DownUnderWarboss]

Democracy was defined before humans first came to New Zealand 🇳🇿. Notice that she couldn't answer why pacific and maori have similar outcomes yet from different origins. The government needs to defund her university.

[@operatorsix6933]

good start..and lower taxes..

[@zweed69]

yes she straight up couldn't rebut that, then notice how she moves the system being at fault and claims it favours certain people as if it can see the colour of a persons skin flat out ignoring the system only sees dollars and cents... 🤷‍♂

[@arthurking2614]

The peer reviewers have a deal to answer for.

[@rogermartin8435]

Maori theatrics. Best left to them to play out their dramas in singing dancing with te reo and aggressively asserting their warrior status. Why would we non-maori subject ourselves to the Maori agenda of separatism.self governance and demands for dominance and privilege. Time to settle whether New Zealand is one nation one government one set of laws operating as a democracy or an oligarchy ruled by elite maori. Sounds like we need a referendum.

[@nzmeateater]

Fully agree mate, socialism and facisim alive and well in tea party maori/greens/labour, dragging our country down into the gutter of separatism and a pa rt hide.

[@wokesick]

Problem is they only get more extreme in the interim.

[@rogermartin8435]

@@wokesick it is certainly gping to get interesting in 2025. I expect no resolution in short. But this discussion will be had and eventually resolved. One government one nation one set of laws no privileges by race, gender, religion etc. Hard work and a fair go for all New Zealanders.

[@stevehughes1510]

Agreed.

[@wokesick]

@ I hope that is the case but I'm of the belief that by 2040 New Zealand will truly become Aotearoa with tribal rule complete. There be a hidden hand at play and only one politician standing against it. Luxon doesn't believe Maori ceded sovereignty.

[@Pedromanus56]

She should look at joining Te Green Patty. Her skill at "word salad" would make her fit in well.

[@brie7705]

Well done Michael. You drew her into contridicting herself 😂😂

[@food4thort]

My g-g-grandfather was born to a European father and Maori mother in 1838 before the Treaty of Waitangi was signed. I have some inherited Maori land interests (tino rangatiratanga - Article 2) but other than that I do not consider myself to have special rights or obligations that are different to any other citizens. In particular, I don't believe I have some special right to be a partner in Government (kawanatanga - Article 1) because of my genealogy. Further, I want my public healthcare access prioritized on my personal need - not my ancestry. Yes, I am interested in my genealogy/whakapapa and the history of settlement and war in this country, but I have no interest in contemporary Maori language and culture. I know this viewpoint doesn't fit with the worldview of Te Pati Maori or the Greens, however (like David Seymour) I am just as entitled to my opinion as they are.

[@namrepusprime6793]

It gives me hope that someone with such clear ties and history to their ancestry has a clear and reasonable view of the situation.

[@operatorsix6933]

another over paid waste of time and space,..sack it and lower taxes.

[@Colin_Izer1111]

Equity....when all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

[@sampreece]

Animal Farm

[@Colin_Izer1111]

@@sampreece Playing out before our very eyes in NZ society. Orwell warned us.

[@sampreece]

@@Colin_Izer1111 Indeed. The truth is stranger than fiction. Humans are essentially livestock, and proxy debt slaves to the central banking cartel.

[@xxyzz-j7o]

When I was training in health during late 1990s, it was always quoted that there was a 10-year difference in death rate between Māori and European. On TVNZ news recently they were quoting a 7-year difference. If both those factors are correct, then a 3 year improvement over a 30 year period is massive. Guess what, there is never ever any mention of that factor.

[@TimE-er1kn]

It's obvious, it's so obvious. And these people in government and university are so narrow focused on everything being racist, they can't see the forest threw the trees. It's called genetics. Europeans have been on an agricultural diet for thousands of years, where as up until a century ago both Maori and Pacific Islanders (decades in their case) where Hunter Gathers. Hunter Gathers are high protein and fat, and low carb. Agricultural is much higher carbs. Maori and Pacific bio chemistry has not adapted to eating a an Agricultural diet. This takes centuries for a race to adapt. In other words education of what they should be eating for the best possible health outcomes. Of course there is exceptions to the rule, not every European is best suited to genetically eat an argiculral diet like myself, my genetic profile is Hunter gather. Poor diet, substances abuse, poor education all lead to the poor statistics. None of them racist. What needs to be done: Education on healthy eating (but that would mean removing big Pharma out of our health system) Reform the education system (it's become bloated and ideological driven and no longer interested in education, hasn't worked for my kids either) Control immigration better (why are we bringing people in from Kenya to be health care assistants, when there are plenty of people in NZ choosing not to work but stay on a benefit. I know many young people who leave school go on a benefit and play online videos games all day) Healths Services where they are needed (they have the stats of where health services are need, build the services there)(we need to be educating the future health professionals in this country instead of trying to import them from overseas. Give people free education if studying to be a healthcare professional that we need, bond them so if they leave the country within a certain period that have to pay back with interest). Nothing should ever be locked away by race, only economic ability.

[@jackiebiggs7071]

If anyone looked at the health priority treatment list Maori are at the top and European are at the bottom. Thats how there equity works, closing the gap by having European die younger from lack of treatment. I personally know someone this has happened to.

[@TimE-er1kn]

yeah, been a victim of health discrimination my self. The marxist that run our country think they need to fight a little bit of racism by creating even more racism. Of course the more common sense solution is to treat people based on economic means only. But common sense left these islands many years ago.

[@darrylsowerby7973]

You do know that Maori die younger than non Maori right. Take what you stated and swap where you put Maori and where you put European and that’s the real world

[@Chopstoon]

​@darrylsowerby7973 you've missed the point .

[@zweed69]

@@darrylsowerby7973 you do realise that most maori who die young do so bc of their own mischief 🙄 hes talking about every other ethnic group being penalised by the health system bc of that 🤦‍♂

[@darrylsowerby7973]

@@zweed69 so every other group that lives longer is being penalised because Maori die younger. That’s a nonsensical argument

[@judioliver8082]

I found that an interesting point that Michael made and Annabel agreed with - that these stats reflect right across cultures and point more to lifestyle, dietary choices as well as the effects of trauma which cannot be underestimated and is a real thing. Very interesting. Thank you.

[@pclare7477]

I got a certain medical appointment for free because I'm māori. If I wasn't I wouldn't of gotten it for free. That is not equality. Time and time again I've heard and seen and experienced special privileges based on race.

[@sueedwards9334]

We all know this is happening, so if Maori like you are aware at some level that is really not right, why are you not doing something about it. But good for you for acknowledging this unfair situation.

[@darrylsowerby7973]

@@pclare7477 what’s your Iwi and hapu

[@AnneMareeThomas]

Anglo Saxon Day would be a great day . I hate everything about Waitangi Day I'm sure this WD will be a disaster. Proud of all my DNA including my SI Maori Blood.

[@JL-go3]

But my ancestors were Picts from modern Scotland. I don't care about the Angles, Saxons or Jutes.😅

[@deanwhale367]

Proud my Pictish and gaels

[@deanwhale367]

Anglo Saxon stole land from celts and Briton’s

[@olliemoose2020]

This Woman was trying to push the victim hood for part Maori but it didn't quite work, after Michael pointed out that really it's across the board for all races of people 😮.

[@sueedwards9334]

Maori are now very wealthy, own billions worth of property and businesses, and are now in all top positions in all the universities and in public service and in Parliament (where they are over-represented), but they still claim to be victims and they demand more and more money and 'rights' from the rest of the population who have given them everything.

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂 What moari are you talking about??

[@StGammon77]

Every maori now is a digital creator or has a radio station or carving workshop in their garage, billions have been poured into their lifestyles and still they keep repeating the same old lines while we don't even have a chance to make a claim at the WT

[@darrylsowerby7973]

@@sueedwards9334 where is your evidence that Maori are demanding “ more and more money and rights “ You are just showing your ignorance

[@banquo46]

When Captain Cook landed in New Zealand the average lifespan of a Maori was 30 years.

[@lisac1619]

Marxists never let facts get in the way of a struggle session.

[@annekevandenberg8165]

And now a lot of the men, of all ages, need to use a walking stick which they wave around while speaking at events.

[@Reweti13]

BS. Captain Cook had a short lifespan

[@jameslast7555]

Maybe this is down to their diet of eating Moriori and other maori and not enough fibre 💥

[@mickeyballoons3963]

@@jameslast7555 ignorance and racism is strong in this one

[@shaunperry1796]

What the hell was she trying to say it was just a load of word salad. How can she say maori are misrepresented and unable to achieve when she has managed. Just another poor me victimhood.

[@briansatchell2319]

Yep. Another * VICTUM* blurting the Same Bullshitt. about the Poor Old Maoris

[@StGammon77]

They have been afforded billions and also lower taxes and rates

[@stover14]

Getting real sick of hearing all these university educated Maori who have had opportunities I will never see in my life accusing me of being the one with privilege. As if you know what its like to have nowhere to sleep on a cold night, rich lil Maori girl.

[@StGammon77]

Yeh like Pakeha aren't even being employed now have you noticed?

[@JL-go3]

Not one single Maori was free or had individual human rights until New Zealand became part of the British Empire. The signing of the Treaty gave all Maori individual rights and freedom. No indigenous person was ever free or had individual human rights. Unless you were a Chieftain or someone important, you had no rights, no freedom, no opportunity to choose ones own life path. Maori were not free, you didn't have choices. This lady would have never had an opportunity to study in pre-colonial times. Womans rights didn't exist either.

[@lisac1619]

Maori weren't indigenous. They floated over here, same as the Europeans.

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂😂

[@moaningpheromones]

oh yeah, but they don't shout about that part of their culture. All these women that get the face tats. Wouldn't have been high status enough to get them before, now they just decide for themselves. Not all of them had face tats, I know that for a fact.

[@saxdearing3395]

How did someone so narrow minded come to be teaching public health? It defies belief.

[@musicians_with_gunts]

DEI

[@StGammon77]

They need Pakeha to front their poop agenda

[@adrianvanniekerken-lp5oj]

Totally agree with you Michael

[@albertinaNZ]

I know something how about we bring back the series ‘The Way We Were’ by Paul Holmes. Let’s celebrate all that have contributed to our country and respect what each contributed. The Māori, Gum diggers Chinese , Scottish , British and more instead of running each other down how about we acknowledge we have been in this together. We have all contributed to this land in one way or another. Embrace our history with love and acceptance for each other…we all have a place…

[@judioliver8082]

I've thought about your question for a few hours today and realise that I now believe Waitangi Day celebrations at Waitangi are more for the Maori activists and safe for Maori to be there but not for non Maori people. 20 years ago and prior to that I went every year and it was wonderful. It felt inclusive and we really did celebrate two cultures becoming one, equal of course. All my friends went and it was wonderful hearing the speakers, seeing the waka and all of it. Now, yeah/nah from me. Now it is a dangerous place for non Maori to be and I hate to see our officials be insulted and treated so badly there.

[@darrylsowerby7973]

@@judioliver8082 you just made up a lot of bullshit. Plenty of non Maori at Waitangi who don’t feel like they are in danger. Your insecurities are yours and yours alone.

[@judioliver8082]

@@darrylsowerby7973 Oh I didn't mean to upset anyone. That's just how it is for me and people I know. All the best to you.

[@darrylsowerby7973]

@@judioliver8082 I’m sorry I shouldn’t have sworn . I didn’t mean to offend you either. Have a good day.

[@judioliver8082]

@@darrylsowerby7973 All good. Take good care. All the best.

[@brianmarshall1762]

Sounds communist. Since no communist system has ever worked in practice. I discard her opinion as it’s as useful as her theology.

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

China 🇨🇳? Veitnam? What next ,idiot?? Communism NEVER existed

[@hughheeney3554]

Waitangi day should be more apply called Maori activists day, the day no longer has any relevance to most New Zealanders. If we wish to keep the day special it must be once again called New Zealand Day.

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂 In your wet dream

[@mickeyballoons3963]

Aotearoa day

[@Adogsmate4267]

New Zealand day

[@adrianvanniekerken-lp5oj]

That lady shows how inadequate her education his Well below the standards

[@peterobertson2086]

um, yeah, um, yeah, um ,um...

[@tomhoro6468]

Bar code

[@citizen4570]

The standards were adjusted to refine her education

[@juliusschwencke142]

..agreed. Her spoken English is at high school level at best.

[@suziederkins3310]

Imagine what her salary is?

[@geofflewis8599]

The national day should be Oct 9 - the day in 1769 Cook came ashore at Gisborne.

[@scorpnz4433]

Abel was here & met with locals 100 years odd before cook. You are also under the misguided view that cook colonised, he certainly didn't discover NZ. He also had nothing to do with colonisation as that happened 80 years after his death. Wiki has the reason why he came here in short it was about trade as by this time Britain had started to change its ways

[@zhanghawley787]

​@@scorpnz4433Captain James Cook was a navigator and a mapper, most of his maps are still used today just updated

[@geofflewis8599]

@@scorpnz4433 Tasman arrived in 1642. Cook was the navigator in an expedition funded by Joseph Banks. One of its aims was to prove or disprove the notion of a 'great southern land'. I made no mention of 'colonisation', However, the discoveries of the 1769 expedition eventually led to British interest. Similarly Australia.

[@hariseldon3786]

It doesn't seem to occur to her that some of the problems of Māori and Pacifica may be entirely of their own making, particularly problems due to cultural shortcomings. Not all cultures are equal and if you have a culture that emphasises a particular attitude and lifestyle then you will most certainly have disparate outcomes Until they Adapt their cultural shortcoming to a modern world - from which they seek to enjoy all the benefits...

[@YouTubeCensorsComments]

There are a plethora of things that are exclusive to Maori and no-one else but I guess that's different in her blinkered eyes. Some examples: Maori All Blacks Maori party Maori schools Maori housing Maori TV Maori radio Maori flag Discounts at sentencing for undisclosed cultural reasons

[@madgiecool]

Maori wards Maori Seats Maori Tax ...

[@saxdearing3395]

Much more than that. Govt expends around 800 million each year specifically on Maori initiatives.

[@sampreece]

and Māori scholarships.

[@zweed69]

exempt from tax exempt from rates

[@Roger-s3c]

Funding for new marae + matching range rovers...

[@IronHorse254]

Great to hear you're going to the event Mr Laws. Kiwis will get an honest and balanced coverage of the day.

[@musicians_with_gunts]

"Equity" in this context means revenge.

[@lesteranddonna]

She really had no answers

[@Roger-s3c]

Lol they never do. They just get angry

[@Bonsqueesquee]

I'm done with the social justice Maori. This is exhausting and embarassing. It's a hive mind, just this attachment to the past. I have Maori ancestry, but I don't act Maori or look like it, so I'll never be Maori. The truth is, people have been conquering each other for thousands of years, this is only an issue when "the British" moved in. The buzzword salad she gave us literally didn't tell us anything useful.

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

I'm moari & I don't care what you think ,idiots

[@broniabutler4166]

She would be more use standing in Pac& Save telling Maori what to buy for dinner

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

Don't forget ,they already ban patch so yes,that is possible too

[@moaningpheromones]

five plus a day? that's white man thinking cuz

[@derekcravenPT]

Totally marinated in far left, socialist ideology. What happened to having teachers who bring balance in teaching their students!

[@lazydaisee3997]

Cept this isnt even socialism....this is fascism

[@zweed69]

they made them take a certain experimental medicine or leave their jobs, the ones with integrity left, the stooges are in charge now....

[@bigrobnz]

I think when you compare the health of Maori today to the health of Maori in 1840 or previous to then you"ll find they are way better off today than ever.......

[@trevorbryan3239]

Our National day should be on 14 December 1642 Tasman's ships anchored 7 km offshore near Greymouth. The ships were observed by Māori. Like it or not on that day the wide world came to maori and NZ. That should be cause to celebrate because nothing would be the same after that.

[@chrisfort5775]

Correct, it only got better, by hundred fold !

[@Roger-s3c]

Definately!

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

Even the Russian came here

[@mxvega1097]

The problem, dear Professor, is one of class, capital and the encounter with modernity. Modernity is the superset encompassing pretty much everything that early contact maori encountered - guns, germs, soldiers, traders, lawyers, missionaries, local officials, legislators, and cops. We're ALL going through it. That was and is The World. The Treaty did not say "the Crown will protect you from the negative effects of contact with modernity". But to listen to the TPB submitters you'd think that there was an open-ended commitment to wrap people in cotton wool, for ever, and all failures to do so are a treaty breach. This is the "my icecream dropped on the ground, BAD PARENTS" argument.

[@JoJoKaat]

Whenever I read/hear the word equity I KNOW it’s only about socialism and a descent to the bottom - except for those who want to lord over us

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂 You are a sheep

[@logicalanswer3529]

And straight away she attempts to alleviate any form of self-accountability involving one's own behaviour and environment. Give it a rest.

[@smokeycollins8203]

Mr Laws, a great comment, it is a 'waste' of a day really. It's time for all New Zealanders to be grouped together or not, if you're not a Kiwi, please go home (where you came from). The Treaty is a nothing document, are we all Kiwis'/New Zealanders if you're not in that group, that's your choice and please go home. I am a Proud Maori and a Proud Kiwi, we are all in this together, let's get on with it. Cheers All

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂 I'm moari ,NOT KIWI & you should shut your mouth ,idiot WE WILL NEVER UNITE I don't owe you nothing

[@what-n6x]

@@user-FUCKYOU18 79% of youths arrested during the time period were maori ot.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/About-us/Research/Latest-research/Children-arrested-by-Police-in-2020/21/Children-arrested-by-Police-in-F2021.pdf 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@albertinaNZ]

I don’t understand a word of your guest speaker. In 1959 Māori Trade Training was introduced. Many young Māori left home lived in hostels away from their families and gained trades. Those trade training stopped in the 90s. What Māori gained from that initiative were skills they didn’t cry because they were sent away from their families, they stood on their own two feet made mistakes and learnt from it, they were part of a bigger picture and to this day contribute successfully to our society as a whole. This rhetoric is beyond me.

[@peterrobb4675]

A degree in talking in circles?

[@wokesick]

Do Maori not eat the same food I do? This narrative they tell themselves is all shit.

[@lisac1619]

Well, traditionally no . . . 😂

[@wokesick]

@@lisac1619 I was more highlighting why would Maori be so disproportionately at risk for this reason or not. It seems to me they ain't. AT ALL.

[@mobbarley7517]

​@wokesick not all races have equal outcomes when it comes to a western diet

[@woofwoof9647]

REFERENDUM NOW !!

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂in your wet dream

[@andym1134]

Time for NZ to get a real national day.

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂😂 Another mongrel day ?

[@k3630]

The treaty is obsolete, and I reckon many of the resources, land and money needs to be taken back from maori.

[@jayleng9630]

@@k3630 that's what use do you take from the Indians take from the Aboriginal and take from the maori

[@jayleng9630]

@@k3630 go back too England where your ancestors came from

[@SilverMagpie]

I give her props for coming on to express her opinions in a reasonable manner, though I disagree with her premise. We could perhaps gain some common ground and some mutual respect for one another as Kiwis first (skin-colour last) if we could have more reasonable, but long-form, conversations like this: between reasonable people of different opinions (not the shrill, shouty, screamy types in parliament).

[@Thebuilder-v7q]

My grandma used to say you are what you eat, eating a healthy diet and exercising regularly is good for you, eating unhealthy foods and guess what will happen, the treaty makes no difference when you go to the hospital, are we not the same inside

[@mattie9481]

The issue is attitude. Anyone who’s old enough with enough life experience knows it’s your attitude and motivation that will make the difference. Which can be a negative or positive things. You choose.

[@MichaelLaw-t1c]

Scrap Waitangi day.rename it New Zealand Day.

[@richardstent401]

I was born on New Zealand day 1968

[@juliusschwencke142]

@@MichaelLaw-t1c ..Referendum Day

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

Scape Anzac day

[@Tc-zb8ht]

About as plausible as Whale music curing Kauri -dieback.

[@davidfentonhancock6646]

Michael we love the way you approach these interviews impartially. And we respect your guest too for appearing (though we would love to see her face).

[@thomasr246]

Yugoslavs and Chinese came here to do hard manual labour ?

[@albertinaNZ]

Yes I am a descendant

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

😂😂😂 Illegal immigrants

[@operatorsix6933]

thats no professor.......f o.

[@wilmaterna4667]

lol right?!

[@Glenn4NZ]

Weetbix comes to mind

[@operatorsix6933]

@@Glenn4NZ got me a tattoo from a box once.

[@kenhorlor5674]

Why does the South Island have to pay for all the division and grandstanding?

[@paulmeersa7162]

This thing does a better word salad than Kamala Harris; beautiful! Just a beautiful load of absolute rubbish.

[@gregwaghorn8496]

Maori have no idea, what they are talking about. Weak people bring up the past. There is nothing we can do about it. None of us, was part of it. Let it go, lets all live as one people, flag and country

[@kareenmclaren9922]

This speaker is exactly why we need a binding referendum so majority of fair and balanced minded NZrs can expressed their meritorious and democratic preference for moving forward.

[@StGammon77]

Just let people be free to believe what they want to believe, making people think a certain way is oppression and burdening children with political agendas, involving them in hateful rebellion is abuse

[@ataxpayer723]

All govt MPs should stop going to the Waitangi Day events and giving the event any attention. They are always the same. A few angry activists complaining about everything.

[@Roger-s3c]

Yes, agree, they dont show any respect, so none given..

[@stevehughes1510]

She's a quasi wishy washy psychologist?? , the gravy train has very long tentacles it seems, and she teaches her opinions........this is why there's so much BS and focused separatism in our country by some maori and colonial apologists who pander to their 'want to haves'.

[@FelixTweezer]

I don’t feel Waitangi Day is our national day. It’s an activist day of racism and screaming.

[@adzmc6681]

I don't see Māori celebrities/authority figures campaigning good health promotion to the young Māori say don't eat MC D's, KFC. Nothing. This lady needs defunding immediately. Everybody has to work hard not just a few minorities. Most people who are white, Māori and pacific live sedentary life styles which causes most communicable diseases due to laziness. Half of the our population is very lazy. We need fixing.

[@BronwynGillies]

Totally agree with your reasoning

[@gregwaghorn8496]

Its not about system's. Its about choice

[@Awakenotwoke-lf3ej]

Waitangi day is special to me as it is my middle son's birthday ❤

[@philbraddick2753]

If health is the Maori problem then education is the solution. Simply put eat less refined foods and supplement with zinc magnesium and vitamin d 3

[@NZ_Kiwi1010]

Define democracy??... Let's define the principals of the treaty first

[@zweed69]

I 💯 agree re Michaels comment about Anzac Day its far more important than treaty day. Definition of democracy depends on your point of view, I mean the CCP believe they are democratic too but we all know what went down in the 70s there 🤣

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

ANZAC is dead & Australia don't care about new zealand

[@vvwalker7261]

She is an activist,🙄

[@groovejets]

Any separation or segregation on the basis of race is Apartheid. There is no other explanation or way to word or see this. Does the Treaty thus support racism?

[@John-c7i4m]

So what she really wants….is for everybody to be treated the ssme….based on stats and facts….i think she will be voting for Seymours bill😉😜

[@mikenewton9439]

Waitangi is not relevant to New Zealand because, like you say, it's not a celebration of two cultures. it's a farce of a day

[@warrenwood3212]

Still struggling with the negativity around the treaty principals bill.

[@mattblack9069]

Abolish it ASAP.

[@johninnz]

It's not remotely within her lane. Her opening statement was a complete crock.

[@georgeminty6218]

And this individual teaches...Oh please.

[@SuthernSunshine]

The Karen tatt. 😂

[@operatorsix6933]

bingo.

[@jeremysmith5232]

stamp of stupidity

[@briansatchell2319]

100% agree. Its all a * competition * to see who gets the * coolest* bar code

[@SuthernSunshine]

@@briansatchell2319 Just be subserviant to the tatt! Otherwise they will have you arrested;

[@trevordance3453]

Pacific Islanders have been allowed to emigrate WITHOUT all the qualifications that every other race is required to have to emigrate to New Zealand so, of course they would fulfil the lower paid jobs, because that is all they could do on arrival. The Maori are educated to believe that everyone else is to blame for their own failures, so of course they will fail - it is their own internal racism that is holding maori back. Since 2020 thanks to the Labour/Maori/Greens, the points system has gone and now we are importing a NEW bunch of unqualified people who are filling up the country.

[@peterwiles1299]

And with the tats.

[@stevebarrett6767]

Dont see any hope here, same old rhetoric but at least prepared to have a polite discussion, good on her for that.

[@Kiwistoicist]

The fact that this lady is in such a position is a failure of the system

[@seanpindred]

The female version of John minto lol...

[@seanodwyer4322]

''How's He getting on ordering star off David patchs for all holders off Israel passports.- ?????

Equality of opportunity. Where your success reflects your effort and ability. Equity. Where certain groups are given the trappings of success regardless of effort or ability. At the direct expense of the rest of society. Rwanda has instituted parliamentary democracy and english common law as the best way to raise the standard of living of all citizens. Those of us who grew up in that system are apparently required to abandon it in favour of a Socialist system like Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Iran. Successes all, and shining beacons of Equity and human rights.

[@gregwaghorn8496]

Maori moved to urban areas, to make a living. They did jobs, in factories, due to their skill level

[@MarkKeenan-z4m]

Governance should be needs based, not race based which will set the proper foundation and assist to de-stigmatise.

[@Jeremy-u3i]

I be supporting Captain James Cook instead!!

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

He died in Hawaii

[@rehau1000]

great respectful interview

[@stopcogovernance]

She said absolutely nothing. This must get the prize for the most boring interview of all time.

[@goaway6339]

The system apparently advantages "some people". Who, exactly, pray tell?

[@gregwaghorn8496]

People havnt learnt from their mistakes. I eat healthy drink coconut water, dont drink alcohol or smoke. Its my decision. Why cant everyone else do the same.

[@Lee-tj8km]

To right a wrong by doing a wrong is not right.

[@L2daA123]

You mean “gravy train day” what’s this waitangi thing you talk about, Also as soon as she greets us with Kia ora I stopped watching cos I knew it was going to be woke bs.

[@atthescreen]

ask the phone equity vs equality and see the first thing that appears. It goes to show you how certain ideals and information pushing are being exploted

[@markstephens5118]

I guess what you're saying issssss" it isn't my/our fault" . Michael she is a 21st-century academic, of course she's misidentifying the problem. This is a look at the world through a single lense and make the evidence fit problem, in her and so many of her ilks eye's that lense is victim and you know if there's a victim there has to be a victimiser.

[@Silenced01]

Wouldn’t you treat pacific island people the same as if they were Māori given that is where Māori came from just over 800 years ago?

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

Pacific is a Spanish name ,idiot What Maori are you talking about??

[@slimdusty6328]

Childhood adversity isn't the only scenario that comes into play in relation to who fails, who merely survives, and who may thrive in life. Because the childhood adversity can also potentially create a number of different personalities as well. There are conditions such as narcissism, and codependency and HSP and so forth what can also play a roll. Perhaps some narcissists may end up thriving well, especially if they'd be grandiose narcissists. Perhaps HSP may end up having troubled lives. Or codependents may also end up being people pleasers. So, it's not necessarily always as simple as us saying well my grandad had it tuff in childhood, and he'd survived just fine