Don Brash shares his thoughts on co-governance

Sean Plunket talks with Don Brash who shares his thoughts on co-governance.
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[@WhomistheBoss]

Great interview. Very balanced and fair. Thank you.

[@rhoothlutz798]

And never forget, Chris Hipkins is the man who said, no jab, no job

[@Pete-z6e]

Hipkins......

[@lorrainedilks4053]

He also said he would hunt down the unvaccinated.

[@rhoothlutz798]

@@lorrainedilks4053 really!! Sounds positively demonic.

[@brucegibbins3792]

That was Chris Hipkins not Hopkins. Auto correct playing up?🙂

[@roddas26]

Why do all other 'media' outlets in New Zealand have comments turned off on KZbin? Thank you The Platform for having open discussion. 👏

[@NA-sj9jy]

Because this channel is NOT legacy Media. Here they have the freedom for real journalism, instead of being stuck in a global narrative.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

If they allowed negative comments about the NZ Labour government they would lose the government money that they receive and would be bankrupt . And 90% of the comments would be negative.

[@SoupDragonish]

Hear hear!

[@adsdft585]

@@stewatparkpark2933 Can you provide some factual evidence to support the claim you made?

[@clarkedear]

@@adsdft585 why would they do that for a Labour Troll,utter waste of time,effort for a tyre kicker/time waster such as yourself.No brainer.

[@mariofabrizi5050]

Treaty issues, 3 waters & co-governance are MASSIVE issues, completely avoided by MSM

[@annetteblack9573]

Actually when I gave birth to my son. It was an emergency birth and I was told to go to Northshore hospital immediately by the people that scan the womb. I was left from 5 pm to past 10pm in a large room full of beds. There was nobody around, no staff,no patience, even outside. They said they were making the beds up. A Doctor came in and tried to make me go into sugery without my midwife and specialists knowledge. In the end,i went to a reception where two doctors were weirdly no nurses around and said how long does it take to make a bed. They actually left me there on purpose, I asked in maternity once I got there. Their faces said it all. They get bonuses for emergency births the bitches.

[@camban]

Don Brash was 20 years ahead of his time politically. He foreshadowed everything that is happening now back when he was Opposition leader, and he warned us NZ was on a dangerous drift towards racial separatism under Helen Clark’s policies at the time. He ridiculously got called a racist but was 100% correct.

[@johnnyboy1586]

Yeah and yet isn't he married to an asian lady? How can he be racist 😉

[@stewatparkpark2933]

@@johnnyboy1586 In their view only Maori count .

[@the1likenutez]

Don Brash is a racist end of story

[@johnnyboy1586]

@@the1likenutez what racist statements has he made?

[@whatthe6532]

Sooooo True

[@1112-g1x]

luv don brash such a gentleman pure class

[@mdbal420]

Except for that time he cheated on his wife. Right?

[@sue.F]

Let’s treat all New Zealanders as equal - what could possibly be wrong with this? Surely, anything else would be racist.

[@ivanmcdonald1]

I never hear mention of the Moriori . Were they not the original inhabitants of the land of the long white cloud!

[@elizabethbradley4301]

When it come to the govt and our money, our races shouldn't ever even be mentioned especially when they are too dumb to understand that so many of us are in mixed race families and they seem to hate that. We are entitles to.our chosen cultured and we shouldn't have a media or govt evening mention such nazi like rhetoric such as "managing the culture" of NZ. We don't need some dumb extremists plastering themselves all over everything while bullying people of families that respect both their maori and british cultures that like to see them respected and the only thing govt should be doing is taking our tax money and giving it back per person. I will never vote for labour or national, they have totally destroyed nzers unities by using victimhood and lies about our races and cultural progressions. The reason why nzers don't live as long because of the constant demoralising and racist BS towards all of our combined cultural ancestors and lies about all of our families from actual racists. It's very disabling, nasty and demotivating culture and its needs to f3ck off out of our govt. We should NOT be living in a country where our taxes pay for media from our leaders that is berating it's own citizens, its disgusting and terrible leadership

[@stewatparkpark2933]

They don't view non Maori as " New Zealanders " .

[@atubelooka]

@@ivanmcdonald1 School journals misinformed us, all good they fixed that.

[@Matowix]

Its ok to be racist if you are Maori

[@OJB42]

The fact that Don is so disliked by the Woke Mob shows how accurate he is in describing their toxic ideology. They don't like that!

[@richardburian2516]

That's the gauge if woke don't agree, your on the correct path

[@khzn9309]

Mate Don Brash will keep Throwing His Trash until NZ becomes a complete RUBBISH DUMP

[@annetteblack9573]

Specking of mob thats who he worjs for in finance, the Waikato Mongrel Mob.

[@karlharrison2449]

Good to hear Don on the show.

[@markbenge7288]

Don is actually speaking for ordinary folks. Support Hobsons Pledge. 🇳🇿NZ

[@gayledenholm987]

Already do

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Don Brash for Primeminister✌🏼🥴💛

[@whatthe6532]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love Well actually almost.

[@mdbal420]

Ordinary folks? Haha you mean white folks, right?

[@whatthe6532]

@@mdbal420 No. All NZers will benefit. Do you want civil war in this country. No nobody does. History teaches us that that’s where separatism often ends up. Just look at Donbas in Ukraine.

[@klburroughsnz]

Hipkins said his understanding is that Labour were perceived by the public as "doing too much, too soon and some of those things aren't essential right now" .... what that tells us is that they''ll wait to make those changes until after the election if they get back in = same old Labour

[@olsaffa7679]

I think you might be right and thought the same when I heard that. He was pushed to be specific, like 3 waters, Maori health board, but just kept saying that that needs to be sorted in his caucus. Hmm

[@MrKura77]

Exactly. They have temporarily shifted their focus away from Three Waters etc for the sole purpose of winning the election. Once they're back in it will be business as usual.

[@whatthe6532]

Same pig. Different lipstick.

[@Chrizzy60]

Exactly. Just more deception.

[@valeriehughes1008]

I find Don Brash a wonderfully wise man with a very clear eye for the future and the good of all New Zealanders as whole... well done it Sean, it was a delight to listen to Don. We need a change in Government - one for all New Zealanders as equals - the very last thing NZ wants is an form of apartheid!

[@nikkster01]

as someone who has been to South Africa this is a really offensive comment from people who know nothing

[@mjanny6330]

@nik rakels of course. Other people seeing your failure would probably offend you.

[@debbielacey6229]

Thank you Don Brash 💓for your honesty and integrity to the show with Sean. So so nice to hear for a change. Thanks to you both.

[@debbielacey6229]

@@redtussock Dear John, 💚 Thanking you for you comment. Take care John. 🧚‍♀👼🦋

[@leanmchungry4735]

My vote will go to a party trying to create one nation: NZ, a country where inequality is addressed equally, not on a racial basis, we are becoming two resentful nations, do the enablers of twin governance care about the future ? When you see a European uni student getting a free education because her European grandmother married a part Maori, and a 1/8th Maori neighbor who is wealthy, getting free groceries while infected with covid, on the basis of Maori health care, or a heart surgery waiting list reprioritised to enable fractionally racial Maori's to leap frog the list, just a few small details from personal experience that bode ill for NZ. Racial meddling will not create a harmonious NZ now or in the future. I will be voting for one nation not two.

[@topgunhitman3856]

Oh but we were so mean and stole everything and have to be made to pay for of evil.

[@Chrizzy60]

I suggest Democracy NZ to you then. Matt Kings Party has just been registered, and already at 1% in the polls, and he's working hard. He loves our nation, and democracy, freedom of choice and speech, and UNITY. A nation divided falls - and Cindy knew that. That was her plan.

[@topgunhitman3856]

@@Chrizzy60 sure was her plan....matt has been around for a while a?

[@steffanhibbard2493]

Brilliantly said , 100% correct . Nail it .

[@loop1479]

"do the enablers of twin governance care about the future?" Of course they want division, and no they don't care. Divide and conquer, that's the game.

[@everdienvaneerten6077]

Thank you for inviting Don Brash

[@1112-g1x]

“co-governance” involves trying to combine the diametrically opposed processes of accountable elected-representative democracy with unaccountable tribal-appointee authoritarian rule.

[@billhanna8838]

I will hunt down the unvaxed , Next I will hunt down all white opposition ?

[@sisiphas]

Your comment was put rather crassly but there is very definitely a real issue there that needs resolving, and not being left to tribal/familial ties that benefit some family groups and not others, at least not if NZ is to be truly multicultural and progressive. Its a choice though. If NZ people want a secret Camorra- styled ‘co-governance’ they ought at least know both the up and the downsides - ‘progressive’ it wont be.

[@1112-g1x]

@@sisiphas it will be worse than camorra as the camorra has no political stake hold at least nt officialy

[@murraynorris6681]

Always a pleasure to hear Don Brash, tells it like it is, thanks Shaun, great interview

[@billhanna8838]

Thank you Don for a simple explanation for all NZers NOT just a separate cult .

[@dannii08]

Wtf? Learn our culture. If all other ethnicities can accept our culture why can you as New Zealand Pakeha not? All white washed. Don Brash did you go to war?

[@dannii08]

Also other countries love our culture besides our own pakeha? 👨‍🏫

[@bodietihoihuitoroataylor6722]

Indigenous Occult People of Polynesian Seas. And we have a contract, last time I check contracts are binding.

[@viviennejjackson1838]

Thank you Sean for your great programme .I love to hear your common sense and the interviews . I do worry about our New Zealand and the ways it's going .I hate the Three Water ,we have had it stolen from us. Maori language is very nice but not shoved down our necks.I feel the children in schools are being indoctrinated with untruths about the treaty.we need a good organized debate and get it out into the open

[@jackohere1878]

Exactly what has three waters "stolen from you ? In the real world councils around NZ have let their water infrastructure fall into a state of disrepair so something has to be done.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@jackohere1878 it's stealing and wasting all our taxes bro! ✌🏽🤎

[@mikejeanetteidour5996]

You really mean…men rule. White men rule. Change scares you. You don’t want your glorious lifestyle impacted in any way.

[@jackohere1878]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love Rubbish -do tell exactly what is being "stolen" from us. The pertinent question should be what councils did with all our rates while letting water infrastructure virtually fall apart.

[@johnmead8437]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love It's another issue for NZ that is being skewed and mis-informed about. The basic idea is sound, why some ratepayers want to continue having inept local authorities wasting their funding (& having their local body taxes raise regularly) is aa testament to ignorance. Yet to hear a rational reason local is better than central managed. The issue is the administrative and delivery structures etc that will work effectively. The current ones aren't, unless boil water and rivers & harbours being sewage sludge channels is acceptable. And Labour's delivery of many of its ideas has not been efficient (neither were many of the previous Govts, back into history). The process of cart before horse is the problem. Which needs a whole lot of rational constructive input, not like the sort of policy Luxton has demonstrated is his potential transformational gift to NZ. Ever heard of Air NZ bail outs & anti competitive actions to destroy smaller community transport options?

[@bronwynsearle2117]

Hahaha turn the ship 🚢 around 😂😂, hard to do when it's sunk!!

[@whatthe6532]

We hope. Labour seems to have a supply of photogenic leaders

[@vinniebarbarino-1]

Come on people we all need to live as one ! let bygones be and focus on a prosperous future going forward together.

[@jasperhorace7147]

How can that happen when a proportion of the population is constantly looking backwards? No wonder they are represented in every negative statistic.

[@cavellparker8600]

We don't have the finances to keep going they way this government is going. Cannot afford two of everything. My understanding of the Treaty was that it made us one people with the same rights and privileges. Concept changed thanks to the Waitangi Tribunal. A treaty is not a partnership or co-governance.

[@StGammon77]

Agreed and all MPs should be a representative of all citizens of the Commonwealth. Speaking of the CW we have an 800 yo Treaty in the Great Charter Magna Carta 1215/1297 where Governing of the people is tightly monitored by Barons who were a strong mediator between the people and the King or Prime Minister now. Where are the Barons for NZ people? Common Law has been breached by the NZ Govt and the remedies we have are not being taught!! Colonialism is a Monarchicial status and yet nothing of the Monarchy is being enacted, so we do not have colonialism any longer anyway, something changed in 1990 where the UN took the place of the Queen and named NZ a Queen as in a Company that's my understanding. So now we have indigenous rights acts and the like and the Maori elitists have climbed onboard as traitors and mutinistz

[@charlottemay8074]

That NZ on Air report ... Its woke and racist. I hope that is addressed too. My whole family has a bit of everything going ... NZ has to be one ... if not it will be nothing at all.

[@sisiphas]

She didn’t want to go. She was pushed

[@gregwells8764]

the "Honeymoon period" is real, but it wont last. Labour have caused trauma that is generational. They are out-of-date.

[@pita3908]

almost as outdated as Natl, .what are their policies??

[@samo7965]

@@pita3908 is that you Stephen Lennon under another name.

[@dfor50]

Don pointed out that young people think co-governance "is nice". There's the rub.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@samo7965 hell to the power of know...Pita is far to much a rock for that🍋

[@billhanna8838]

@@pita3908 Both party's are controled by WEF , We have infiltrated all Governments , Chris Number 2 pick / Luxton number 3 ?

[@DietmarDyck]

Great to have Don on the show, pure class

[@josephl9619]

Don Brash is a courageous new zealander who cares deeply about this country. We should be using nz on air money to make movies about people like him.

[@Tommo47NZ]

I enjoy listening to Don Brash. Straight answers Cindy would bob and weave then wouldn't except the premise to any of the questions ` Ding dong glad she's gone ..

[@murrayleckie4937]

Luxon has said (RNZ) recently that he saw no real reason for Maori seats to exist .Quite surprised to hear him say this as he has been a bit vanilla for me!

[@scottgrant8039]

Got to love Dr. Don Brash.

[@Homemade1772]

I'd like to know how much it has cost the taxpayer to change everything into Māori, all Government departments and government agencies, websites, road signs, printed letterheads etc. How much $$$

[@topgunhitman3856]

....it's cost our sanity

[@khzn9309]

About the same amount that the early colonial settlers brought confiscated land 4

[@loop1479]

the cost of 10,000 houses.

[@peterdykzeul3074]

Maori ceded sovereignty. I printed a book years ago titled "The Law of Business and Govt". It was authored by numerous law professors and top NZ lawyers and made amazing reading. In the section regarding the Treaty they had this conclusion .The same international law that ruled that the Treaty was a legal document also states that unless a Treaty is ratified that treaty is only becomes legal if sovereignty is ceded. The Treaty was never ratified so "case closed". Regarding the Treaty and non-government departments they also stated that businesses and Councils are under no obligation to uphold any aspect of the Treaty as the Treaty was between Maori and the Crown only, not Maori and the NZ population. This Govt. has pushed it now into all realms of NZ without any authority to do so.

[@micah1754]

Some differences between the two versions of the treaty should be noted: Article 1 The Treaty: Māori chiefs gave the Queen all the rights and powers of sovereignty over their land. Te Tiriti: They gave the Queen te kawanatanga katoa, the complete government over their land. Article 2 The Treaty: Māori chiefs and people, collectively and individually, were confirmed in and guaranteed full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their lands and estates, forests, fisheries, and other properties. Te Tiriti: They were guaranteed te tino rangatiratanga, the unqualified chieftainship over their lands, villages, and all their taonga, treasures (everything of value). It is likely that Māori would have encountered these terms in a biblical context - King Herod was sovereign ruler of Judea, while Pontius Pilate was the governor (the procurator of the Roman Empire in Judea). Pilate was responsible for Roman law while Herod remained ruler of the Jewish people. Governorship in this sense is a more custodial role, with the sovereign ruler still holding the real power for their people.

[@peterdykzeul3074]

@@micah1754 No one has said they do not have control over what they own. That is the same for everyone whom owns something. But they must also comply with the current laws of the country and not expect a law that is different to the rest of the country. And I also doubt that they where thinking a hell of a lot about what the contexts of the bible where.

[@DEATHTRUTH]

Bring back Brash

[@TheTonynoble]

Well, you seemed a bit disappointed with what Don Brash had to say. I thought he was measured and clear on the key points…and always worth listening to.

[@mattblack9069]

The most important issue facing New Zealand right now is co-governance, it is divisive, racist and reeks of pure Fascism, get rid of it ASAP and you might save New Zealand from turning into a 3rd world country. Eliminating the dual naming of words is ridiculous and dismantling Helen Clark's think tank for inventing Maori words must be got rid of as well, Clark set it up during her first Prime Minister term.

[@fu8713]

Shuddup dopey lol

[@loop1479]

What about water ownership, lifes force?

[@ashleyormsby4572]

And there will be civil war

[@Ricky-nq7lu]

Currently the treaty is hurting NZ not helping NZ, So I feel its time everything got doubt to by 2025 then its finished no more claims on this or that an Maori & Kiwi's can get down to business an rebuild this country up again... We built this country NZ and we all should be able to benefit from that fact & Yet a small group of Maori want to create ill will on the partnership most normal Maori & Kiwis have built along the way... Our races have come a long way & we have always had each others backs in war & when real men have to step forward an this group is Attacking that bond... Like to normal Maori we need to focus on locking up our infrastructure for future Kiwi's as if we don't lock it up for them now our kids from all races are screwed... Can we get back to fighting for one another as we have more power that way as the people of New Zealand... Said with love.

[@TheMarathonomahos]

There was a water safety ad on the radio the other day which said be careful when collecting Kai. I know what Kai means, but an American friend who lives here had to ask me what that means. The question here is with important messages that largely effect new immigrants, how the hell would they understand that?

[@mariofabrizi5050]

RNZ uses a hybrid language which turns their stories to gibberish

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@mariofabrizi5050 And in my opinion is turning Māori into a bit of a joke language. Words like mahi and motu will be laughed at like puku has been for years.

[@loop1479]

@@W61K Stop it. You sound far too rational.

[@arthurcradock4728]

Please get Don Brash on again he a very astute man

[@margueritespringer3687]

Thank goodness for people like Don who stand up and speak what the rest of us are thinking. Maori were in NZ around 500yrs before Pakeha. That is NOTHING compared to Aboriginals who were in Oz for 40,000yrs. I see Maoris as on a similar stand as Pakeha, humans of equal worth, no advantages to either race.

[@olsaffa7679]

I don't care if Maori arrived yesterday or 700 years ago. 1) they weren't the first people to arrive in NZ (and anyways everyone arrived in NZ from somewhere else or offspring of such) 2) There's no 100% Maori people left ( just people playing on a % of ancestry to get an advantage) 3) The Treaty was Maori ceding sovereignty for protection and equality from the Crown. 4) The Crown only has ceremonial importants in NZ now. If Charles were to force a Prime Minister on NZ, him/her wouldn't be accepted by NZers. Yes, I agree, Maori or not, we should all be given the same opportunities. One odd belief I have thought is there should be a distinction in rights of being a permanent resident or a citizen. Permanent residency guarantees you all rights except standing for public office. I think such people don't "buy into being a NZer" because they don't have to. Their main allegiance stays with the country they originally are from.

[@mjanny6330]

And the Europeans have been in Europe for the same amount of time but they get no special treatment in their home countries. Quite the opposite in fact.

[@SopwithTheCamel]

Māori expect us to cede to them. The Zimbabwe model.

[@NA-sj9jy]

Remove the Maorifacation from our place names, Government Departments, Health and Education, and all throughout our news. Remove it. We speak English in NEW ZEALAND....if and it's IF we want to have Maori inserted into our language...then do it correctly....Maori first and English next to it....respect our English language, or not at all. Do not force Maorifacation onto NEW ZEALAND citizens...

[@mikevickers1391]

absolutely agree. I love maori culture and will always defend the right of maori to share and strengthen their cultural heritage. BUT...I am sick of having the maori language being forced on what is basically an English speaking population in this country. I have no interest in learning to speak maori, or learning deaf signage. If maori want to use their own names for places that's fine, but don't force this change on everybody else,.

[@gypsysummer4008]

@@mikevickers1391 I'd love to be able to turn off the sign language person in the corner, I think it's great to have them there for those who choose to use it, but why oh why does is everyone forced to watch it.

[@davidgrosvenor1]

Spot on, NA.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@gypsysummer4008 yeah it's rather hippycritical when I can't use this 🤎🥴🖕🏽

[@lindac8237]

Agreed 100%

[@malcolmhayward4431]

Just can’t say enough how much sense this man makes

[@olsaffa7679]

Call it what it is. Separatist and seperate development was tried (Apartheid) and caused much harm

[@ianfisher6561]

I would still like to see Don Brash as the Prime Minister of New Zealand.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Great minds think alike 😉

[@johnmead8437]

He'd be eons ahead of the current options. And might give National a chance, because later this year political parties are going to need to present intelligible policy for the intelligent to consider who to vote for (they are competing for less than 50%of the possible vote)

[@williamrussell174]

Not in the this life.

[@ewanmee9877]

Ian Fisher, me too.

[@lloydgretton3079]

How times have changed. In the 1946 election, newspapers complained the Maori electoral seats should not ever change the Government. Hardly anyone would say that now, at least publicly. But as Fanon said. "The oppressed do not want justice, they want vengeance." Don't think this will go away. The New Zealand Parliament and public apathy and ignorance have been fostering this for decades. You should have knocked this down, starting in the year 1984 when the Labour Government pledged power to the Waitangi Tribunal.

[@nomanshigh3058]

Don should start a podcast and call it "Don Be Brash"

[@khzn9309]

No Don's Trash Brand which stands 4 Need No Cash 4 Stolen Land

[@mrokesene]

Don Brash would be an Act MP these days

[@glennanthony3165]

We as ACT Leader briefly in 2011 but lost therefore John Banks became its sole MP and Leader

[@berniefynn6623]

Maori have chosen their lifestyle, NO ONE made them have an unhealthy life.\

[@bobcoburn2929]

The country need a political with big BALLS

[@fordboyzzzz]

most of nz has no gas in the tank like ja says lol, but we keep keeping on. why would anyone pull out if they know there is only 8 more months to go - wouldnt ya just keep going. what a great role model we all gotta keep going in tough times and she quits. bogus as.

[@NA-sj9jy]

Exactly

[@loop1479]

May have something to do with someone appearing in Whangarei court earlier this year?

[@Matowix]

No more raced based favouritism and funding . The Maori party need to go.

[@Peanutfluff111]

If sovereignty wasn’t ceded then perhaps the benefits should be. There are two sides to that coin. Also, if it’s possible to say I’m sorry, is it also possible for the other side to say I forgive.

[@1080sucks]

Don Brash is both brave & informed I welcome him to the show.

[@johnmead8437]

He made a couple of key points. There exists a support base for co-governance, It is dominated by the younger ones who have been taught to support it rather than the actual facts (many which are so distorted or out of context they are nea unintelligible). And the fact the majority have no clear idea about what co-governance actually entails, but blindly listen to activist versions. The progressive Public Service entrenchment of racial duality approaches (which can be as obstructive as a inept Minister or sector manager, or activists) is seriously impediment to delivering core responsibilities effectively. Which is different to accommodating the aspirations of local Maori (& should be extended to any locals) in some fields: it can be quite constructive once the posturing and illusions are disposed of. And historically (pre-wokeism) some departments actively provided enhanced career development for Maori with potential, which was embraced by those involved. Subsequently hijacked it seems.

[@MistaCUNextTuesday]

He's very stunning and brave, I agree.

[@billhanna8838]

Will canabilsium be legal again , Slavery ???

[@Randymountaine]

Maori names on the news, the presenters all speak it, weather.. Adverts on TV are flooded with maori. I even got junkmail with maori news in it. I am so over it, I just want to live in New Zealand the way it was when I was a child. When I complained to police about Mongrel Mob causing grief in my community, I was told directly by an officer "Mongrel Mob is part of Maori culture." so they prefer not to deal with it... How is a criminal gang maori culture.. ridiculous.

[@StGammon77]

Yeh imagine if we started a white power gang vroooooom vroooooom!!

[@mjanny6330]

Gangs like the mongrel mob are the only real part of maori culture that remains. Violent and obsessed with making money at any cost.

[@davidgrosvenor1]

I agree stop using Maori words at least unless they translate!

[@lindac8237]

We should just use English where everyone can understand. Period! What’s the point of using Māori and then have it translated? Is someone trying to make a point? What a waste of time.

[@NA-sj9jy]

@@lindac8237 - because then everyone has a choice. Everyone is respected. Those of us whom wish to learn Maori, can do so...and those that don't, can still read and understand the article.....not just in New Zealand, but for all countries that read and watch our content on the international stage.

[@lindac8237]

@@NA-sj9jyI see where you’re coming from and you’ve made a good point. However Today NZ has become very multiracial and multicultural so I was wondering should we then also include other languages like Arabic, Chinese,or Hindi. How far do we need to go? It’s tricky.

[@dougbulldog9947]

Go the Don

[@gtau3144]

I can accept there may be different opinions on whether sovereignty was ceded, if so the issue of independence can be discussed, but co governance where a minority has a disproportionate say is not democratic and the worst outcome. Your either in on the basis of equality or out and independent.

[@pspaulstewartinterviewinspires]

The country needs a major upgrade in its governing style. There is way too much controlling, babysitting and authoritarian approaches. There’s a lack of wisdom. I believe good governance is akin to facilitating, observing, supporting. I think we simply have not had people in these roles that are mature enough, gentle enough, or wise enough. Too many agendas, to much wasted spending and too much desire to do it their way regardless of the sovereignty of individuals to be who they are. I think it’s just an old style which is outdated. A real, wise, clear leader. We are all capable of that in our lives. That’s a way forward.

[@vivsmitheram1869]

Well said!

[@ronaldwarren1267]

And that man is David Seymore he has good policies straight up no bs

[@loop1479]

They're all controlled by the same faceless entities. Don't matter who gets (s)elected.

[@andreatodd3095]

Agree clearly we need to go back to the historical document make clear it's meaning for everyone so no " interpretations" could be used to create division. While it is important to know the history surrounding this historical document it doesn't need to be the center of every learning institution, legal premise or government sector It might take several decades to evolve to a point that we can enjoy Maori culture and language as being an identifying marker for New Zealand rather than one that is divisional.

[@loop1479]

Government have an agenda, and that is to be divisive, and create a new underclass. Imagine when water is corporatized, the cost of everything is going to be huge.

[@murrayclarke2171]

As a recently returned Kiwi I appreciate the Māori place names when driving around the country. I reckon the tourists must like it too. It gives us a bit of an exotic Hawaii feel rather than a white colonial feel. However, it’s clear the treaty says nothing about cogovernance and Labour are choosing the wrong hill to die upon.

[@mjanny6330]

A "white colonial feel" lol cringe.

[@greatwhite9428]

Hey Sean can you tell us the number of hate messages you recieve a week & no doubt you do,just so the others know it happens to most who put themselves in the public eye 👍🏻

[@lindsaygiles9874]

Why did you keep talking over your guest and cutting of his answers this not just all about you

[@stewatparkpark2933]

Yeah , he is bad for that .

[@ashharding9883]

Brash's reference to Hipkins(Mr .03%) comments using NZ instead aotearoa and earning him brownie points had me smirking at any possible pun.

[@socialite1283]

Labour won't alter any of their policies. They will slow down some, but none will be abandoned. If they win well at the next election all the same policies will be taken forward. What is needed is a new strong party that is, economically centrist and politically liberal and that is a mix of the Winston Peters party, and ACT, that can stand up and give National as much of a hiding as Labour.

[@ducker09]

Anyone other than myself , left wondering why Chippy has sent mahuta overseas while campain is on????

[@ranter7100]

Still nothing on the elephant in the room. Its getting angry this elephant in the room. EXCESS DEATH RATE can you report on that rather than why people would be pissed with Ardern. Justifiably I would add because of the EXCESS DEATH RATE.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Ask Michael 🤭

[@ranter7100]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love Why? You think he's interested?

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@ranter7100 yer right, he's too far gone!

[@robertmiller2173]

Sean you have hit the nail on the head; stop all the Maori BS in the media, get rid of Co Governance. Get rid of 3 Waters, Get rid of the lies. 1 Person 1 Vote; this is fundamentally the Basis of Democracy! 3 Waters is a huge subsidy for Wellington! Jacinda let the side down. There should be 3 Health Boards. 1.South Island 2. Wellington to Taupo and 3 Taupo to the North Cape. I will vote against this Maori stuff.

[@deanpendigrast7255]

The Treaty throw in the bin it's a trap

[@Alakwe]

Hospitals won't check your Wakapapa, you probably only have to identify as maori

[@topgunhitman3856]

They bloody well ask! I know that for a fact.

[@Alakwe]

@@topgunhitman3856 If they do bloody well ask, would they then follow up. I've got a section 45 on going with the maori land court on going now for 5 yrs it just gets shuffled around

[@topgunhitman3856]

@@Alakwe probly will till dooms day pal.

[@dufus7396]

Maori radicals have achieved aparthied..they must be so proud

[@iancouch9688]

I like the Don. Very wish man..

[@daddybob6096]

Respect for Don Brash. Labour under Chris Hipkins has a lot of ground to make up to get in favour of Labour voters like me again. I'm betting many loyalists have changed their voting agenda following the actions of the Labour Government over the previous four years. Gun control being one of the issues.Basically criminalising legal gun owners by suggesting they are a threat to society. Maori status elevation over the rest of the population being another. Loss of jobs by New Zealanders including Police Officers and Military personnel for declining the Covid Vaccination. Allowing the Police to physically bash New Zealand citizen protesters outside the Parliament of the People. Too many others to list. Full support for Prime Minister Hipkins in his oncoming battle to right the wrongs of our party. 82yo NZ Citizen. God bless New Zealand.

[@darrennicol2442]

Remember that as Justice Minister, Hipkins lied about the legality of lockdowns. I'll never trust him again.

[@johnmead8437]

The arguments up to the anti-vax for public servants have merit. Working in statutory demand callout positions where interactions with anyone (& co-workers), and being a serious contagious disease risk, is choice. And if your personal principles show that level of responsibility & don't fit that, get another job where that is acceptable. To suggest a police officer, who is likely to need to interact with persons with immune deficiency shoud not be vaccinated without medical requirement is like sending him to the tropics without malaria prevention to sleep in the open without protection. MIght not get it, might even handle it ok, but no use for reliable responsible work for some delusional principle.. Such individuals should never have passed the brain test for recruitment. And the Parliament protest should have been nipped in the bud, Police asked for that misfit assembly to grow and defecate in its own nest. Given it was police advice that modified the gun law changes that enabled the Chch terrorist to source those weapons (those laws needed modification, but not at the expense of those who legally had E cat endorsements to own them, or the add-ons subsequently) it is little wonder their trust levels are plunging with successive poor judgement calls. And some good police officers do exist among their staff.

[@ronaldwarren1267]

Chippy is toast

[@loop1479]

@@ronaldwarren1267 Never underestimate the stupidity of the sheople

[@dufus7396]

I left New Zealand in 86..dipped back a few times. While I feel maoritunga(excuse spelling) is a wonderful thing that unites and defines Kiwis where ever they are in the world many have been excluded. Im 67 my genitic make up is irrelevant. I see Govt signage and language in moari with no english translation offered. Patically galling for me is my passport has pages in maori which ALL parties reading require to comphehend

[@marinclay2405]

The govt new that Jacinda needed to go in May. It was well known amounts some circles that she was going to be gone in Feb 2023 and that the govt new in may about her future demise.

[@ronaldwarren1267]

Her going was planned.months before and people picking on her through media a weak excuse I'm glad

[@loop1479]

@@ronaldwarren1267 Sadly it won't make any difference. National is on the same path as Labour

[@nomanshigh3058]

Wow he recommended "serious debate", haven't heard that in a while. New Zealand is easily smart enough to have serious debate and involve many voices in the processes but nope busy watching Shorties.

[@chrismckellar9350]

Chris Hipkins has officially been Prime Minister less than 24 hours and people are already moaning that he hasn't done this or announced that. There some in the Maori Caucus who support Maori activism and Hipkins has to follow delicate line not go off side with the caucus and appeal to the voters. I think the Maori caucus needs to think very seriously about listening to the voters or they might not have a job after 14 October. We need to give Hipkins time to reprioritise policy settings and reshuffle his cabinet. He knows the clock is ticking.

[@topgunhitman3856]

Hipkiss is about as strong as a cheese n onion tostie.

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@topgunhitman3856 - How do you know?

[@topgunhitman3856]

@@chrismckellar9350 I can smell it on him.poor guys been tossed under te bus

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@topgunhitman3856 - How do you know you can smell it on him?

[@frankschwebel8605]

Maori language is being pushed as the FIRST language of NZ . As a white New Zealander , you are now classed as a European on official documents .

[@gayledenholm987]

Hipkins v Mahuta; what's to come . .. . . . . .

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

🧡/🖤

[@johnshanks251]

No to co- governance , one people one government or our country will never work ,for of all people who live in New Zealand

[@khzn9309]

Bring on Co governance previous government ruling has paid it's due all the while it's ship is nearing the rocks

[@EstherThompsontamehana]

🛡️⚔️🌎 The Platfom with Sean .. .. .. ⚔️🛡️NZ first Coalition

[@owenpope353]

Here is how you settle this issue. Every person in New Zealand who have European ancestry are Europeans and can not claim to be Maori. END OF ARGUMENT.

[@mikejeanetteidour5996]

That’s the most inane appalling comment. It’s so racist it’s beyond belief. Next you’ll be wanting to go back to the days of Terra Nullus.

[@kiwiingrid]

Ha ha, had to laugh but bells bells those with that drop of Maori blood in them will be fighting with themselves till the day they die.

[@owenpope353]

@@kiwiingrid Very unlikely there would be fighting as our genetic material, and that is what defines race, combines and blends in unity and love within our bodies. This is an absolute fact. So it leaves NO REASON to consider genetic or race differences as a motivation for disputes.

[@owenpope353]

@@mikejeanetteidour5996 You realise that there are no real full blooded Maori in New Zealand. It is more likely there will be full blooded Australian Tores Strait Island Maori. As they migrated from Korea past Papua New Guinea they picked up a female and those genetics' were breed into the group. It is possible to determine time of this migration through genetic mutation comparisons. There certainly was not a split between "Natives" and "Settlers" when my families ancestors arrived in New Zealand. There was instant attraction and intermarriage between the two peoples starting in the 1830's. The same did not happen in Australia. A consequence of this inter marriage has resulted in the creation of a unique genetic mix which can not be defined as either Maori nor European. There was NO fighting, so you need to look at the motivation of those who claim there was. New Zealand is an isolated, insular community that has been misled mainly through the education system. I remember in 1954 when my school teacher came into class and said" I am very upset, I do not want to do this, but if I do not do it I will loose my job". I thought someone must have been mis behaving. But what he then did was to begin to teach us to pronounce the English vowels differently when pronouncing Maori place names. There is enough flexibility in the English language to accommodate many differing sounds. But someone had other ideas. The result is a language that bears little resemblance to the original pronunciation. When first recorded in historical texts, Korean was only a spoken language, all written records were maintained in Classical Chinese which, even when spoken, is not intelligible to someone who speaks only Korean.

[@topgunhitman3856]

Yup.for sure. For sure and c bed 😉

[@andreflavell3453]

I called Don Brash 2 years ago . He was very gracious but did say things are going to get way worse for NZ .

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Don👃🏻

[@jbbd1772]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love oh, no!!!...damn, another one of the over represented 2% 😒😒

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@jbbd1772 ...oy vey👏🏻

[@andreflavell3453]

@@jbbd1772 I just called him to get his view as the university was vaccinating everyone. And I did not edgy this for my daughter

[@denyswoodroffe490]

Let’s kick this treaty for touch. As it is so much out of touch. Feed up kiwi

[@berniefynn6623]

maori are not indigenous and there is nothing in the treaty about any form of co governance, maori are subjects of the Crown, nothing else.

[@iancouch9688]

Wise

[@davevinnie8106]

Keep up the great work Don. Stop the lie's.

[@brianOcurradhin]

Put oversight power in the hands of the middle class tax payers, introduce the Greek model of democracy, yes and no marbles. At local level not national level. On all ammendments and breeches of policy made by govt at national elections to be held to an account at NZ Court of Justce. One New Zealand not two.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

The Greek model of democracy rated women and slaves as second rate citizens. not a great example of democracy really.

[@brianOcurradhin]

The first thing they teach in the unies around here,, youv missed the point

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

@@brianOcurradhin You missed the keyboard.

[@mjanny6330]

@Marius van der Lubbe almost like the inclusion of emotion driven freaks and those who hate their hosts ruins democracy.

[@tim2muntu954]

First article of the 3 articles of the Treaty of Waitangi:- "The chiefs of the Confederation and all the chiefs who have not joined that Confederation give absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land." What's unclear about this?

[@barefootonasandybeach638]

Good chat..

[@enzeda]

The social engineering of this Labour govt needs to be vetoed by New Zealanders.

[@munchaking1896]

The real treaty of waitangi is much longer than 1 page

[@johnmcameron1811]

A long look at the lost (and now found) final draft of the Treaty (the proven actual English version in Busby's own hand that the Maori version was translated from) is in order, I can get you the book: 'The Littlewood Treaty' by Martin Doutré. Pm me if interested. Cheers John C.

[@jarrodhayne560]

Māori genocided the mori-ori, where are their reparations?

[@clarkedear]

Even Tuku Rangi Morgan isn’t the real deal part pacific islander,part 50/50 so who does he really support or is it financially motivated?Does,Dr Brash have a view on that revelation?

[@thailandsnippets901]

Don Brash was the best Governor of the Reserve Bank that we have ever had. Unfortunately Governor's since have been wanting in performing that function and NZ is one of the extremely small number of Central Banks in the world that dont hold any physical gold to protect the people of NZ. One wonders how they are performing their function??

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Hahaha - Sean didn't want to expand on Brash saying there is significant ignorance from people polled on co governance.

[@adsdft585]

Paul Moon a historical writer who says that the crown recognize NZ as nation before they signed the treaty.

[@topgunhitman3856]

And?

[@adsdft585]

@@topgunhitman3856 So even now based on this account of history we may be two nations in one land or the true government is unknown. This what very unclear as NZ was not taken over by the crown like Australia.

[@topgunhitman3856]

@@adsdft585 know it wasn't.but we are now all one nation.of that the treaty was very clear.there is an incredibly rasist sect in moaridom that simply want a hand over,and a hand out.they hate us,have made it very clear.they have no place in the free world,let alone in parlamint.

[@denyswoodroffe490]

Maori health in the main is due to a choice of lifestyle.

[@mjanny6330]

And the adaptation to a diet of lean meats and root vegetables over multiple generations, then suddenly in a generation or two it's kgs of fried chicken and sugar. The physiology of the maori people simply isnt made for the diet of a European.

[@raybreeze2841]

Using Maori words on TV news is only upsetting white European only 17%of them and most are interbreed with white European Samoan Indian how many PURE MAORI NONE