Annoying character sound design

[@eggsoup]

yo ur videos are very well made, keep it up gamer

[@typhoonbh]

You don't understand how much this means to me, thank you!!

[@eggsoup]

@@typhoonbh yeah for real, this vid was fantastic. glad you’re bringing in a bunch of other games as examples to branch out of only brawlhalla too, know that’s something that can be scary. excited to see the next one ^^

[@CatBeanxx]

Eggsop :o

[@forbiddenbox]

@@eggsoup the algorithm man... Risky move but I love it

[@alexanderl.6207]

IT'S THE PIANO GUY THAT'S HECKING POOOOOOG

[@zapprex]

Brawlhalla doesn‘t need a joke character, everything is already toxic enough and losing is already extremely frustrating.

[@PomadaGaming]

It be like that

[@Valrok1870]

Facts. Nothing is worse than an Artemis with insane knowledge on scythe strings and bs reaction timing on lance...

[@LJ_973]

@@Valrok1870 as a mediocre Artemis main I say sorry to you…

[@Othorius]

@@Valrok1870 L

[@kiradus]

@@Valrok1870 you called?

[@radicawl]

it's very refreshing to see a brawlhalla creator that is knowledgeable in a variety of fighting games. your content really pops, keep it up

[@typhoonbh]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@jonathanche6553]

And to my surprise, indie horror. The first channel I've seen mention SFV and Fnaf in the same video.

[@fivesidedpixels4991]

the idea of “intentionally annoying” elements in games is interesting to me. You switched the topic over to joke characters, but would it be fair to say that stuff like TOTSUGEKIII is intentional? Is the sound designed to irritate players into finding a way to make it stop (i.e. properly countering spam)? IRL humans and babies comes to mind. The sound of a crying baby is hardwired into our brains to drive us crazy, because we’re built to drop what we’re doing and deal with the baby ASAP (to stop the noise). Yoshi’s Island uses this idea as a game mechanic. So do fighting games have “pissing players off” as a core design philosophy for certain characters?

[@fivesidedpixels4991]

@ShadeBoi ty. Was wild learning about Omocat back in the day. First found em through the Zelda art, then I learned there was a clothing brand, THEN I saw the OMORI trailer, and 5 years later the game finally releases and Omocat content is everywhere on my feeds lmao

[@moosesues8887]

@@fivesidedpixels4991 what zelda is Omori??

[@fivesidedpixels4991]

@@moosesues8887 no, the creator of OMORI made cute Zelda fanart a couple years ago

[@moosesues8887]

@@fivesidedpixels4991 I know they hella dif that just caught me off guard that those chibi zelda comics were made by the Omori person

[@limeman7553]

It’s so simple to fix the dolphin. Just don’t let her do it again until the previous dolphin is fully gone

[@YangyChaddyDad]

it's simple, mod the game to mute the character

[@limeman7553]

@@YangyChaddyDad agreed

[@diobutt1894]

@@YangyChaddyDad *cries in ps4 player*

[@Xepato]

If you’re being serious, S. Dolphin isn’t actually hard to beat, but you need to know how to punish it with your specific character. May’s dolphin is notoriously annoying but imo it doesn’t need any nerfs. I say this as someone who doesn’t play May at all; her damage conversion from her normal buttons is more annoying to deal with than the dolphin itself. S. Dolphin doesn’t really combo into anything high damage, and it’s minus on block, which means it’s your turn, even if she’s far away from you. As for H. Dolphin, which is plus on block, you can either react to it if you’re fast enough, preemptively neutral jump it, or just don’t punish it. The clips in the video show the Millia player badly spacing herself, RNG fishing for the dolphin, and not holding block after getting hit - S. Dolphin can only combo into itself once on counter hit. That Millia deserves to lose because of her sheer disrespect in this situation. TL;DR May’s dolphin is a knowledge check.

[@limeman7553]

@@Xepato TOTSUGEKI

[@thatoneguy3840]

I always thought Mordex's sigs sound really annoying. It's a good thing he's not a great spammer legend; I would lose my mind.

[@Othorius]

That still never stops people from trying to use his sigs to kill at all cost

[@dinosaur628]

@@Othorius fax

[@marthsinclair3796]

I feel like a joke character in BH would be a bad idea. That's a weapon combination and months of dev labor being squandered, I don't think there's a way to make something purposefully bad and have it be worth that much investment. I like the idea of joke skins like Cupcake Cassidy, but I also get that it's not the same as a dedicated character. Thinking deeper, the only path I could see to pull off a joke character would be if they finally released Nightshade and built a lot of hype, but then she turns out to be mediocre and yet all her skins are designed like she's a super strong lore character or something like that.

[@ZekeTheThunderWolf]

Reminds me of Aurelion Sol.

[@Tricky_T_Raptor]

Instead of a joke character, they should make a lethal joke character, then. Basically, a character that is silly in some way but is still viable.

[@louizeandrei]

@@Tricky_T_Raptor does faust from guilty gear count? i mean like from xrd and before not strive

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@louizeandrei yeah i think

[@TrulyBS-QJ]

@@ZekeTheThunderWolf Asol is weird but not that weak. IMO same as azir but azir scales better than most adcs and is safe.

[@octaviusthe2nd672]

The sound Robo-Fortune (from Skullgirls second encore) makes while using her absolute bullshit of a zoning is so irritating, constantly hearing the "jump" "beam" "excitement" "hearth beat" in her low pitched robotic voice is torture enough but you also have to deal with constant laser spam

[@stird.dragon9954]

I feel you man 😭😭😭😭😭

[@LalitoTV]

You can also use the Japanese voice for an annoying *high* pitched robotic voice instead!

[@octaviusthe2nd672]

@@LalitoTV that pack is beyond annoying it's straight up cringe

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

git gud

[@renneklauz]

almost the same but with ms fortune when you hit her, her screams are so loud and even get really anoying, especially if you are instead the one that's getting the beating of their life

[@InkyShowBlot44]

Caspian sort of does have taunts in his gauntlet sigs because of his sass.

[@charKT-7461]

He taunts you the most in his gauntlet dsig. Too bad it’s an awful sig, though

[@statics1]

@@charKT-7461 it’s not that bad, on the edge it’s decent

[@charKT-7461]

@@statics1 No. It's a terrible, laggy, surprisingly not active sig

[@statics1]

@@charKT-7461 it lasts a long time, pushes you back so harder to punish and has ridiculous force

[@charKT-7461]

@@statics1 It has abysmal endlag and it has a small hitbox. It doesn't even push you back a character's length

[@lidzk]

Teros. Those sigs are already depression material, but to complete the misery pie that is that legend, he has to make this loud roar that makes me think to myself "damn, i think i'll lower the volume a little bit" and then realise that it is already at 1 bar and my computer is at 10% volume.

[@slikedollar4656]

Snow koji dsig on bow is so loud too

[@Patchess]

FYI, cave sounds do not imply caves. It only shows that you're in a low light level environment.

[@odin9628]

Which is helpful to blind people

[@Patchess]

@@odin9628 ...

[@ibisskb]

If you want a even worse Ness, search up "Ness but his moveset has the Earthbound sound effects", and thank Sakurai for not just porting the old sounds, because a lot of them are high pitched to annoying levels.

[@The_Gabe]

Hold on a sec

[@The_Gabe]

What a coincidence that I found this comment. So as the maker of the video you've just talked about I totally get your point about the Earthbound SFX getting too annoying in smash because these sounds were created with the idea in mind that they should be played only by themselves and not three times at once. But I do think the concept of using them in smash could still work. As long as they're not using PK-Rockin' or PSI Magnet (two very high pitched sound effects with a very long length) and keeping the sounds at a acceptable volume it wouldn't be that bad. I personally think I did a better job at keeping the SFX more acceptable in my Lucas video (while it still has some of the flawes I mentioned) and the guy who inspired me also did a similar video, check it out this could work if done right: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZekiIdjo7alpas kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaS7l4Sqptmghsk

[@ibisskb]

@@The_Gabe Yeah, the sounds aren't annoying in the game because you have a few seconds of delay between them. This is why some 90s RPG effects were almost epileptic, as it was the way back then to make RPG fights visually stunning (in a surprisingly literal way) But yeah, timing is a real big deal. If Smash happened to be an animated movie where Ness uses his signature moves like about 10 times in the entire movie, with his same voice, then people would barely find it annoying, and it would even be memorable in a good way. So a way to put it, repetitiveness + high pitched = nope

[@The_Gabe]

@@ibisskb , agreed

[@DaMan56100]

brawlhalla is so balanced that the joke character is picking random

[@Thisguy0187]

😂😂😂😂😂 It would be insane if you main Random though... 😐

[@MONKEY.D._____________________]

@Ben Christopher Burgos they need to add the black random skin that will be so 🔥 and fanny

[@cursedboyir]

The most audible annoying sig in Brawlhalla is still, to this day, is Queen Nai's sigs. I main Queen Nai but even I get annoyed a little when using her.

[@yabazyabacoffee]

when i first picked up Brawlhalla i immediately gravitated towards Queen Nai and noticed how much of a beast she was when getting players high and launching them. That being said when i played i would literally (not actually) cry my heart out whenever i see her in matchmaking

[@Meinshake12]

Personnally, lance sounds the most annoying to hear Im not a lance hater or anything, just the sound of the weapon gets annoying after a whole game against it

[@desiderata974]

The *tink* noises of axe will always grind my gears. Hammer is up there too with the noise of the groundpound being hit. Its not inherently annoying but seeing it abused has made dislike even the sound

[@glitch5174]

As a lance hater, i hate lance

[@alibi4052]

@@desiderata974 I somewhat disagree just because I just like the sound lol Used to play Scarlet till I just say a bunch of lance people and switched to Caspian/Nix

[@mikuxlukalover22]

I agree with this statement. The Lance sounds are just extremely irritating.

[@a-levelking8610]

*SAIR SOUNDS*

[@kylerzam9749]

Idk if anyone else mentioned this, but I think Adon from street fighter 4 is a good example of a character who just sounds annoying.. if I'm not mistaken I think there have been players who refused to pick him up just because of how he sounds.

[@eheh3723]

which made it even worse when he was legitimately one of the strongest characters in that game

[@eheh3723]

which made it even worse when he was legitimately one of the strongest characters in that game

[@harryvpn1462]

From all the fighting games I have played I never really felt like I was really annoyed by any sound effect, even fighting May isnt annoying because she doesnt shut up (but because she's designed to be annoying to fight)

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

every character can be that if you play them a way your never safe Jam from Guilty Gear can just dick with you by knocking you down a ton without fully using a her specials

[@Hellski]

Bro, as a Munin main i fucking hate every single sound that KFC makes

[@charKT-7461]

It also doesn’t help that Munin can do 3 sigs by the time one of your light attacks come out

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@charKT-7461 lol

[@kidsquid4458]

for me personally, i dont get annoyed by the sound that moves make, just the move itself (also i main may so her totsugeki has been engraved in my brain and actually causes my brain to release dopamine when hearing her amazing scream)

[@CrimsonCrab]

Depending on the context, Munin’s bow Ssig can get really grating. Especially in 2v2 situations, it’s easily the most distracting sig in my opinion. Also, this was a sick video. Good work!

[@taylorjudge4506]

I honestly love joke characters like Dan it gives me a special satisfaction when I beat somebody

[@aickavon]

Rayman's Fist and helicopter thing is because that's actually how his abilities work in his games.

[@tederino47]

A super annoying character sound is squeak’s attack from brawl stars. Great video!

[@LalitoTV]

This just made me realize how much I miss Ness's older voice

[@kaizenkltr]

I think Totsugeki (sp) is legit the first non basic japanese word i learnt and now is in my anime vocabulary all thanks to that damn dolphin

[@saminikus]

Dam u underated af. I like ur edit style!

[@typhoonbh]

I appreciate it!

[@undisputedchamp7684]

Cool to see frosty and you friends as you’re both on the featured channels , awesome video typhoon . Watched it all without skipping

[@saternates7495]

This is the first time I see a high quality content about fighting games just like disruptv and others

[@Sebboebbo]

Great video man. The background music was a little too loud for me compared to your VO, but the content was top notch

[@bowserfriend]

I think dan was only really bad in previous games before street fighter 4 actually In fact he was a pretty decent low/mid tier there and is a relatively strong mid tier in sfv This makes losing to him feel more or less humilaiting though, depending on how you see things

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

It's not really a fighting game, exactly, but there are quite a few annoying sounds in For Honor. Some characters I play almost for their satisfying voice lines alone, others constantly scream the same few lines at the top of their lungs and everyone hates them for it. Sure, you can get used to them over time, but regardless.

[@Vergil3421]

Hey that's Tekken World Champion 2018 Panda to you! Just kidding, great video that's just popped up for me, I can't speak to sounds inside of the game off the top of my head (Usually I'm the one playing the joke character) however I did have a friend who was a master of getting inside anyone he played against's head, talking throughout matches constantly, repetitive sounds when landing certain moves, really threw you off when you started losing. In the same area s that MikeHaze a former Super Smash Bros player is credited for the creation of a rule known as the "MikeHaze rule" in which players are prohibited from yelling or making loud noises to distract their opponents as he apparently screamed at another player to throw them off during a money match so there is some strategy to being annoying :)

[@YumiiOGT]

- imagine a legend that is like a crazy person with a town straitjacket and all his sigs would be meme references from "troll" to "rickroll" to even "no bitches" or "no maidens"

[@box4679]

As a cannon main i personally really hate/love the cannon sounds. I love how they fit well but i absolutely hate how loud some of them are. I also think there arent really any outstanding other sounds that annoy me like sigs.

[@a-levelking8610]

I find cannon sounds satisfying,especially when they hit. probably coz I've played the weapon my entire brawlhalla career 🤣

[@MrSamiGigi]

And love this type of channel bro! Keep it up!

[@GohTheGreat]

Dude your video quality is insane, keep it up!

[@typhoonbh]

I appreciate it!

[@learnyoutube3865]

THANK GOODNESS SOMEONE ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT THIS. TYPHOON U ARE UNDERATED AFFFFFFF, EVERYONE SHOULD SUB TO THIS GUY NO CAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[@lucas_lel917]

2:24 I was wearing earbuds and this door knock sound sounded so convincing it actually scared me and I thought there was actually someone at my door.

[@chronicJDN]

Your videos are amazing, I hope you get 100k subscribers cuz you deserve them ❤️

[@skeerfc8802]

Lord Vraxx's Lance s-sig is also annoying imo

[@MfwPrivate]

So basically Brawl Stars' Squeak's Main Attack effect.

[@compamatt1774]

ngl globox as cassidy seems kinda like a joke character/crossover. like the Nsig is him using his tongue as the rope

[@cobaltobject1855]

If totsugeki really bothers you that much, you can always switch to English voices

[@MutantGames]

The part of the video when you put the knocking sounds so loud, It make me look over my shoulder in fear because it sounded so close to me and Im alone on my house in the middle of the night :c

[@Bammah_]

when thinking about sounds in fighting games that annoy me to the point of frustration and wishing the match would end already, the first person that comes to mind is Zamasu in Fighterz with his energy blade on his arm. lots of his moves use this and it is ear wrenching very quickly after like 2 combos

[@Naruhiu]

has to be queen nais sigs, jesus.. but wu shang's sigs and nix's up scythe sig are super satisfying

[@beastmanx9865]

The clip of m bison was foreshadowing

[@derandi2324]

The way id do it is a 2 way anti spam mechanic. Each time a move is used more than once in a row that move gains a stack and loses 1 stack for a different maneuver used (block jump or another attack). For each of these stacks its made less effective (longer wind up, less cc (like the duration or how easy it is to block or dodge) and less damage. Another way to do it is making the moves themselves less spamable but something will always get past. Tho idk i aint a dev myself

[@NeXuS_Senpai]

I am so proud of you typhoon! i remember when you had below 1k subs i knew you could get way more popular. And ik that you will get way more popular Dont forget me I was an OG :)

[@zalphakun8417]

Honestly if you don't like keep hearing annoying sounds at the same time/everytime, just mute the volume but it's your choice And also, great content as always Typhoon

[@radornic2387]

Sounds play in on fighting skill. Its just unconciously.

[@scyther-x4903]

Teros N-sig sends shivers down my spine.

[@pogmagranite584]

I thought someone was nocking on my door fr. Holy

[@OS_Erol]

Typhoon: that’s not gonna happen any time soon Roland sword ssig charge up animation: *exists*

[@gunman3000]

Hate wu shang sounds, gives me flashbacks

[@Dot_1]

"rayman, YEAH!"

[@sparksdojo9091]

Storm in mvc2 especially at high level and Adon sf4, pretty sure gamerbee quit playing Adon specifically cause of how annoying his specials were. Good stuff man! Keep up the good work!

[@harrylane4]

Annoying characters are my jam. Part of the strategy is infuriating the opponent until they fuck up.

[@gabrielr-nki8296]

Gotta appreciate the use of inscryption ost, one of my favorites Jigglypuff on older smash bros like brawl is a great example but only for the “casual gameplay”, every move is annoyingly high pitched and breaking its shield is just satisfying to hear the sound slowly reduce as it flies away from the stage

[@agustinyornet4727]

Very good video as always! Sir Roland Nsig on Lance is the most annoying sound on Brawlhalla no cap

[@richardnavas2610]

I love how he says horror game genre and plays a minecraft cave sounds clip

[@HelloHappyelo]

Omfg that knock scared me, I don't recommend watching this at the middle of the night

[@eeVee4V]

4:25 ez the most annoying sigs's sond is orion (spear:Nsig, rocket Lance:Ssig) and artemis Ssig on rocket Lance. So that i play with music (my own playlist) And 1 more thing : awesome vid 👌 keep it up 💖✨

[@devoutmordexfollower5289]

"I don't think there really are scary sounds in fighting games" Oh yeah, what about "Rayman! Yeah!"

[@fiercetatsu6782]

If they can spam you then you’re the worst player for not catching on to it

[@Venty2929]

For me the most annoying ones gotta be Munin and Yumiko on both weapons, Zariel's and Caspian' gauntlets, Barraza's Axe, Scarlet, Ulgrim and Roland's Lance

[@K150arts]

the home music do be a bop in the beginning :)

[@The_Gabe]

Even as someone who plays Ness and Lucas I don’t get why the devs decided to let them shout the line every single time they use it especially if they heavily rely on the move.

[@AzazelTheMisanthrope]

Excellent editing and sound design in this video, could probably use some citations for some of the research that you mentioned about that brain stuff.

[@nerov3402]

spam it hard enough, and any sound can be annoying

[@typhoonbh]

true

[@javianbrown8627]

Typhoon: I can't think of any fighting games that have scary sounds Me: Totsugeki! Ik it's mostly annoying but it's mad scary to get hit by that while you're blocking sometimes lol

[@FeminineSludge]

A scary sound is hearing literally any Xull sig while you're close to him

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

So THIS is why that one Scout taunts every time he kills me in TF2...

[@scrubb1032]

when i heard knocking at 3am in my office scared the shit out of me

[@slowpokegamer4078]

**** you when you played the knocking sound i got so scared that I looked through my entire house to see if there was someone there

[@hjkgkuh]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Sir Roland's lance nsig (the one with the horse screech)

[@LJ_973]

I saw this comment as I was mentioning about it on another comment, it is really annoying I 100% agree with you.

[@roseexe7159]

Sea of thieves had helpful sounds too. A lot of ship functions are meant to tell you when you’ve done something properly

[@killerbug05]

0:00 evil may be like "I paid for the whole moveset I'm gonna use the whole moveset

[@Marhathor]

*Moaning intensely* - Luigi, Smash Ultimate "Put these foolish ambitions to rest." - Margit, The Fell Omen, Elden Ring

[@r0j0e]

Not me having to move rooms three times to listen to this video on my phone, because the people there were too noisy 🤣🤦

[@oh_Penitent_one]

Why don't I see people talking about thatch Dsig

[@typhoonbh]

because now its silent on snake eyes lmao

[@thestinkpanther3315]

Rayman N-sig haunts me

[@biggusdikuss6134]

It’s late right now and the knocking sound scared the shit out of me…

[@gachacell3895]

Ngl, if you win with a joke character. You can’t get mad, like props for learning how to play and defeat better characters using that bad character. People have my respect for that.

[@TrulyBS-QJ]

'looks at le crow' TALK IS CHEAP DONT MESS WITH MY CREW I ALWAYS HIT MY MARK IM THE BOSS OF BOSSES LETS SETTLE THIS BEEF

[@dagrabitgohome]

:14 I'm working from home and this clip gave me life, thanks bro 10/10

[@typhoonbh]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@FrensziG]

this guy sounds scarily like scruffy

[@Ryuryusu]

3:08 not sure if it counts but Izanami’s exceed accel from Blazblue might be one

[@azziahegyirako48]

Me who plays all games without sound 🗿

[@TimbreWolf64]

I'm not sure using the frequency chart and the threshold for pain is such a good example, considering 7000Hz (where the threshold for pain is marked) is not even playable on most keyboard/piano instruments without octave switches, whereas May doesn't peak much higher than 650Hz when saying the infamous line - I think part of the reason the voiceline is so annoying is because of its spamm-ability in context to her moveset, the shrillness its just more engraining because of that

[@superboy123sonicman]

sir roland sword side sig is a taunt sig, he combs his hair before hitting you.

[@ozeej2258]

I do enjoy the references to the audio video that someone something I forgot his name made

[@felipo_galaxy1853]

I know a scary fighting game sound... RESURRECTION

[@r_a_z_i_n_]

Ember's bow nSig and sSig spund effects are etched into my brain

[@DronesOverTheMoon]

bruh the door knock actually got me smh

[@WeeADream]

i love that Street Fighter Asura Wrath Mod u showed lol

[@ashmitsingh6995]

Joke characters wouldn't fit into brawl's design philosophy of having every legend be (relatively) evenly matched with every other legend, probably wouldn't be a good idea to add a character whose entire point is being worse than everyone else, when sig spamming already gets a similar job done (*koff koff* onion *koff*)

[@poggiethis1363]

onion man bad

[@letsplayarbitration1160]

*Lin Fei has entered the chat*

[@oh_Penitent_one]

Zariel has entered the chat

[@alibi4052]

Dusk has entered the chat LOOK AT MY DSIG YOU MOTHER-

[@QuirkyTurtle1]

*zull has entered the chat*

[@lisandrojudgement]

"is not worth playing dan" me who has been playing him since usf4: maybe he has a point

[@Blancodraws]

I can still hear Kirby saying "eshay hey" in my head

[@hippolyte5248]

I didnt know those sounds meant "caves nearby" Great vid

[@HoloTheDrunk]

How fkin dare you with that knock SFX, I'm alone at home at 4am and it scared the living shit out of me