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Tools&Targets

Tools&Targets

Күн бұрын

Testing out some Aguila 124 grain 9mm hollow point defensive ammo. Ballistic gel test with the Taurus GX4 and P80!
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@KevC1111
@KevC1111 Жыл бұрын
Tests like these are what people need and you kill it video after video. 😎👊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👊
@JustOutDetailingwithDylan
@JustOutDetailingwithDylan Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets🦅🦅🦅🤙👨‍🔬
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
@@JustOutDetailingwithDylan 😎👊
@JustOutDetailingwithDylan
@JustOutDetailingwithDylan Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets 🦅🦅🦅🦅
@tgibson78
@tgibson78 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I requested the Aguila. Thanks for taking the time to test that ammo. I really appreciate it!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya!😎👊
@MrDelta8871
@MrDelta8871 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your request for testing. I use this brand fmj for practice and it's always worked perfectly.
@GHicks-lu5tu
@GHicks-lu5tu 10 ай бұрын
You are my # 1 guy when it comes to pre-purchasing ammo. I know that Aquila is great ammo as I have used it constantly in outdoor testing target shooting. But never jhp for self protecting. I’m ordering 3 boxes now from Buds Gun Shop on sale for $19.00 /50 rds
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate that.😎👊
@leslieshepperd9850
@leslieshepperd9850 Жыл бұрын
Looks a lot better than their old hollow points, I think you could have shot those at a brick wall and they wouldn't have expanded.... but these did good out of the longer barrel. Thanks for the test 🙂 !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@1donnatien
@1donnatien Жыл бұрын
Out of a 3 inch, they probably should use an underwood extreme defender. The 4.25 made it work
@lens7859
@lens7859 Жыл бұрын
Before Covid I bought a lot of Aguila ammo online and it was the cheapest available, now just started to come back strong but the price is the same as the other major players. I like the product, never had any problems with it
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Same
@MultiSycorax
@MultiSycorax Жыл бұрын
Maybe a retest is in order? Would love to see some loads get a 5 round gelly test. Love your content man it's see of the best on the tube.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👍
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it sucks the tests are so expensive (and time consuming). Would love to see a 5rd test, because you can never really tell with one shot. Could be a 1% chance that they don't expand from the shorter barrel... or it could be a 99% chance.
@Kaelland
@Kaelland Жыл бұрын
Aguila also makes a 117 grain JHP (yes, 117, not 115, not sure why). If you manage to get ahold of any of that, I'd love to see a test of that, too.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@transtubular
@transtubular Жыл бұрын
Unless they are +P I doubt there would be any difference. Because physics.
@Kaelland
@Kaelland Жыл бұрын
@@transtubular They may have a different overall design that makes them expand less and penetrate deeper or expand more and penetrate less. Or they may have a hollow point design that is more prone to clogging with clothing at all velocities and not expanding at all. Testing is the only way to know for sure.
@rwdchannel2901
@rwdchannel2901 Жыл бұрын
Every 100fps extra makes a big difference. I have some air rifles I've used on plastic bottles and my 1000fps rifle with .177 will go through 3 bottles. The 750fps rifle with .177 will go through 1 bottle. When it comes to a larger caliber it become even more dramatic.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@chadrolfe1072
@chadrolfe1072 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing these results, I bought 1000 of these a month ago without knowing all this!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@MichaelKMorris
@MichaelKMorris 7 ай бұрын
I dont have a short barrel 9mm, so these are great. I have about 50 boxes stored up. They chronograph at 1275 out of an 8" barrel btw.
@xowhiplock
@xowhiplock Жыл бұрын
If you focus only on stopping the round quickly after it enters the target, which is the purpose of JHP, it makes more sense how they look in gel using 3" and then 4" barrels. Expansion is only needed to apply more brakes when needed. It's that simple. We are using JHP to protect people behind the target. Nothing else. P.S. Love your show! It's the best part of my day.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@haroldledbetter2867
@haroldledbetter2867 Жыл бұрын
Good info tools. Personally I’m not as concerned about price when it comes to defensive ammo a box of 50 will probably last me two years. Hopefully all I need is a few to verify function and zero.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Very true.😎👍
@37gdog
@37gdog Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more, too many good, readily available options out there to be skimping on carry ammo.
@jaredgreen5840
@jaredgreen5840 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're still using the GX4, I'm still absolutely loving mine 😄👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Great pistol. You can get em for a steal now too. $50 rebate on em right now from Taurus.
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass Жыл бұрын
From your previous testing I'd say the best budget JHPs are the Sig Sauer white box and the Winchester white box -- in 9mm anyway. And like you, I've never seen these Aquila rounds on the shelf. Nor online.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Mhmm
@drivestrength5394
@drivestrength5394 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video - I've got a bunch of the Aguilla 117gr HPs- Guess I'll keep those for my G17 and not for the 365
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@grandpabob3286
@grandpabob3286 Жыл бұрын
Short barrel not much , longer looks good . I wonder what they would do say hitting a rib bone on the way in . Thanks for sharing , I enjoyed it as always
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@jeffreyrobertson7652
@jeffreyrobertson7652 Жыл бұрын
Another good Jelly Test Tools Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Have a great weekend!
@keithjones668
@keithjones668 Жыл бұрын
With cold weather coming on, thank you so much for including the clothing barrier in your testing. That added knowledge is a huge help. If you have time, could you test the Winchester 147 grain Ranger RA9T thru clothing? It did super well in bare gel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.😎👍
@keithjones668
@keithjones668 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Thanks so much for all you do for everyone. Performance thru barriers is interesting to see.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was not optimistic when you started chronograph readings with GX4. The P80 #s are minimum of where I would typically expect 3"-3.2" (124s) to be. I like around 1200 out of a 4"-4.25" but settle for anything over 1150. That being said the P80 barrel length performed at least once. Not trusting my life or liability to this one. Thank you for test. Appreciate you running 2 barrel lengths & clothing. Well done.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@johnschwalb2025
@johnschwalb2025 3 ай бұрын
While many people may praise Aguila ammo, I have found it to be lousy ammo that fails to feed, or causes the gun to return to battery. In some of my pistols it feeds fine, but it won't feed or return to battery in my CZs which is unusual.
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 Жыл бұрын
Interesting results. Might get some for my 5903! Probably not for my shorter barrel tools. Thank you for doing the test so quick! Thank you as always my friend! Stay safe!🇺🇸👍🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that.😎👍
@NitrousFTW871
@NitrousFTW871 Жыл бұрын
Another great test showing barrel length and the variables of velocity on a bullet. A Good affordable bullet for a PCC for sure or longer barreled pistol in a pinch. Nice work!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@philrc1
@philrc1 Жыл бұрын
After seeing the P8O expansion, I would have had to do another one from the GX4 just to make sure it wasn't a fluke.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I feel pretty sure it wasn't.
@MB-jg4tr
@MB-jg4tr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort, it's much appreciated. You've helped me make informed decisions on how to best protect my family & myself with good ammo choices. My normal 9mm carry rounds are now Federal HST 147g in warmer months and Underwood Xtreme Defenders in wintertime. I definitely feel better equipped than most with good ammo. And i've built a more-than-respectable stock of a few other good preformers, buying them up at budget prices when they go on sale. I'd love to see some tests of the best preformers through a window pane, and a rack of pork ribs in front of some jelly but I won't hold my breath lol. Cheers
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👍
@napalmstickylikeglue
@napalmstickylikeglue Жыл бұрын
In today's concealed carry market, the majority of people are not running around with 4.5 inch barrels. Generally it's 3-4 in. So this hollow point would not be a viable option for defensive purposes.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
👍
@FauxAmis78
@FauxAmis78 6 күн бұрын
My LGS just had the 117 gr of this ammo on sale for a pretty good price. Would love to see you test that weight through the short barrel.
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 Жыл бұрын
Good test. Just makes me think that the hardness of the bullets aren’t consistent. Or is the barrel length that big of a difference. Thanks for the video.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
That definitely could be the case. Thank you sir.
@robertharing7031
@robertharing7031 Жыл бұрын
I also have never seen this particular round and I have a few different types from back in the day manufactured by Aguila but I think I won’t take any chances and will continue to stick with stuff with a.better track record
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@Wesblumarine
@Wesblumarine 3 ай бұрын
Man I’ve been watching your videos for months….suffice to say I have like 2000 rounds of range ammunition and 300 self defense. Bunch of your ammo recommendations. Thank you!
@kathygates8845
@kathygates8845 Жыл бұрын
INTERESTING VIDEO .... !!!!! GREAT VIDEO ... !!!!! THAT SHORT BARREL WAS A LITTLE SHORT IN THE EXPANSION .... !!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE ... !!!!!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@donskiver
@donskiver Жыл бұрын
Definitely a different design from their 117 grain. Their 117s look like some kind of old school design with a softer lead alloy. If you can find them, I'd be interested in seeing the results.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I'll have to check em out.😎👍
@gjp3863
@gjp3863 Жыл бұрын
Too bad it didn't do too well in the 3" barrel. Amazing that a difference of only 60 plus or minus ft/sec would affect it's ability to expand. Appreciate the great work that you do!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@thomasjefferson4662
@thomasjefferson4662 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@texasrex2222
@texasrex2222 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad there are channels like this that have picked up the mantle, so I can look up the performance of ammo I see on the shelves from different barrel lengths before I actually buy them. Got a box of these just to try out at the range out of my PSA Dagger Extreme Carry, since it basically has the same barrel length as a G17. At least this stuff could serve as an okay backup ammo for a compact/full-size, I suppose.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@mrmcbeth
@mrmcbeth Жыл бұрын
I hope you can test some hard-cast stuff one day in the smaller calibers (9mm, .380, etc.)
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@earlmorrison8163
@earlmorrison8163 Жыл бұрын
Interesting results !! Thanks for the video !!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@TommyboyGTP
@TommyboyGTP Жыл бұрын
Seems like most typical ammo is designed from duty sized pistols with barrels 4in on up. Even with a slight decrease in speed it seems like it was on the minimum velocity edge for expansion to begin with.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yep
@Drknow-mx1fj
@Drknow-mx1fj Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to test out the .380 aguila but those 9 seem to be pretty good
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@joemokrzycki2006
@joemokrzycki2006 Жыл бұрын
I think I need to see another test but it seems good out of the longer barrel never seen it before
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@l.a.3887
@l.a.3887 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it has to work in a 3 inch barrel good testing thanks tools
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Agreed😎👍
@bluecollaramerican3884
@bluecollaramerican3884 Жыл бұрын
Awesome test. I have some aguila 22mags that blow up in the chamber, interesting feature...40 grain jsp aguila silver eagles.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
💥😎💥
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 Жыл бұрын
The P-80 did good, although it was 86-fps slower than the claimed MV, I've watched a video of a very pretty young with a pink tee shirt, That had Aguila on it and she pronouncer it AGG-YOU- LA, and as you know it means Eagle in Spanish, there is a KZbin channel by the name of {Julien Miguel } that I watched before this video and that's how he said It was pronouced, I think I was the only comment, I used to say it like you and everyone else, until I was her video, thank you for the testing and I'm looking forward to the next one, Have a safe Weekend My Friend. 👍 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Every pronunciation you look up from Spanish speakers, google, or any other actual official pronunciation source says it's AH-ghee-la. The "you" or "gwee" is how you hear most country folks pronouncing it. I put the emphasis on the GHEE instead of the AH out of habit.
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I understand completely, my Father {R.I.P.} was a perfectionist and I suppose I inherited from him, however we both understand each other just fine, thanks for the reply, you knew it was Eagle in Spanish, so you are on point, looking forward to more testing and when I say that you have the most comprehensive tool videos on KZbin, I mean that, Thanks Brian. 👍 🇺🇸
@oldguy3378
@oldguy3378 Жыл бұрын
Academy had two models of Canik for $279 each this morning, a G17 and a G19 Glockish-type. Sold out at mine before they opened. I don't need them, but that was cheaper than a P80 or a Daggar. With no transfer fees too.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice. Love my Canik SFx.
@chretired
@chretired Жыл бұрын
Now you know why your jelly test are so valuable Tools. Same round from several different barrel length firearms give a real life indication of what to expect from the firearm and the ammo. Just because one caliber from a manufacturer works well doesn't mean all their ammo will and that many factors can effect performance. Some of these micro handguns just don't let the round get up to speed to allow for good performance. As we've seen in your testing regiment the smaller barrel lengths just don't measure up to what the manufacturers claims are. So what looks like a promising round turns out to be mostly a dud. Be aware of your surroundings, be true to what you believe in & always be safe
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@rjw261984
@rjw261984 Жыл бұрын
Very surprised at how much better it did with just a little more velocity. Great video as usual. 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
Ever see 22lr Hollow Points out of handgun and rifle? They don't expand with the handgun and penetrate well... but then out of a rifle they expand and only penetrate like a couple inches. (Always recommend people check that out. Was very surprised when I first saw that and had to really verify it).
@rjw261984
@rjw261984 Жыл бұрын
@@deucedeuce1572 yes I have. The velocity diff between a handgun and a rifle is much greater than the diff in the velocity between these two handguns. It was less than 6%. Which is why I was surprised in this particular case.
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
@@rjw261984 Yeah. I hear ya. (Would love to see several rounds to test the average). Hope LuckyGunner does a test for them. I believe he does 5 rounds for each test.
@rjw261984
@rjw261984 Жыл бұрын
@@deucedeuce1572 I totally agree. Especially when using lower quality ammo the velocities vary greatly. Im willing to bet some would not expand with the P80 judging from the wide spread in velocity. They would prob act as they did from the GX4.
@blackheartgaming6121
@blackheartgaming6121 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get my second gun soon I'm getting the Glock 19x next with these shells and your voice sounds like you could be a radio guy
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice. I've been thinking about grabbing a 19x myself.
@MDR-hn2yz
@MDR-hn2yz Жыл бұрын
Strangely enough, I found some of this at my local gun shop. I had never seen it before so I passed. Thankfully I did, I’m using a Shield 9. Great review.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Never have seen it around here. I had to order this online to test. Thank you sir.😎👊
@darkstarninja5978
@darkstarninja5978 Жыл бұрын
Great testing there tools. It's kinda sad to see some holler points failing cuz a little cloth getting in the way.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@AdventureswithaaronB
@AdventureswithaaronB Жыл бұрын
I like aguila products. Have good luck with their. 22lr
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@Old.Vet.
@Old.Vet. Жыл бұрын
Please re-review the 57x28 comparing solid target FMJs vs the red and blue ballistic tips. Maybe include the difference between the results when fired from the Ruger 57 and the LC carbine..
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I don't have either Ruger. The PS90 is all I have chambered in 5.7. I'm just really not interested in it enough to even buy a pistol for it.
@allenbolen9705
@allenbolen9705 Жыл бұрын
Ammo that does good without the clothing will often fail the heavy clothing test. Love to see Defense dynamics 124 gr Fiocchi tested.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Жыл бұрын
Good one, Tools! Those of us with short barrels can learn a lot from tests like this. This is the exact reason I use 115 gr hollow points in my 9mm's, which are both short barrels. The generally higher velocity (guaranteed in my reloads!) of the lighter bullet gives it that much better of a chance to work the way it's supposed to. In addition, penetration is generally very close between the 124 and the 115, what the guys in white lab coats call a statistically insignificant. It is also the reason I would never load any 147 gr bullet into a short barreled pistol. I've seen way too many failures with these bullets to trust them as a SD bullet! Cheers, jc
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Apparently Aguila also has a 117 grain HP round. May have to give those a try.
@briizcustoms9543
@briizcustoms9543 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Did you try them yet? I see Aguila is super cheap
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
@@briizcustoms9543 No, I'll have to order some online if I wanna test em. Haven't seen any locally.
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 Жыл бұрын
Sig V crown & Winchester white box JHP are the only "budget" bullets I would trust my life with.. I prefer HST & Gold dots though maybe Critical Defense CorBon and a couple of others in 9mm but mostly Gold Dots HST's & V crowns
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another fine round of Jelly Time testing.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@thealarmclock9307
@thealarmclock9307 Жыл бұрын
Them Winchester white box 115 grains are decent.. they do have some jacket Separation.. but the bullet is the exact same.as the silvertip, but its a different color..
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@pigpaul
@pigpaul 11 ай бұрын
Just got got 6 boxes at buds. Thanks for the review. Gonna keep it on my full size pistols only.🙏 Cheap as of this post.
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 Жыл бұрын
Not too bad out of the P80! Actually kind of impressive for budget ammo. Sure wish it would’ve done better in the 3”. But there’s plenty out there that work great. Awesome video as always my friend. Have a great weekend 👍🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate ya!
@randycchavez
@randycchavez Жыл бұрын
Agreed. At +16" and ~0.50 expansion, those numbers aren't bad at all. Almost ideal numbers for the clothing barrier test, actually...
@Dom_721
@Dom_721 10 ай бұрын
Completely agree on buying it bulk to shoot out of a full size, like my Beretta 92. If you're just looking to buy a few boxes to rotate for your compact or micro compact edc, PLEASE just pay a bit extra and buy top tier stuff. It just makes sense.
@furmanmackey5479
@furmanmackey5479 Жыл бұрын
I have very limited experience with the brand but if you want to have a switch taken to your behind by your Grand Momma for using un-Christian like language, try the .22LR stuff in a semi-auto. It's not that it's terribly inaccurate, it's that I don't think any three rounds are loaded alike at the factory. Think, Bang, puff (but those bullets did leave the barrel), and click. The VERY limited number of .38Spl rounds I've fired were all over the map, from a rest, out of a really nice four-inch Ruger Secuity Six and also seemed to suffer a bit from messed up powder charges. I was impressed with the accuracy you attained with the 9mm ammo as well as the recorded velocities and it takes something special to impress me at all when it comes to the 9mm. I do think the folks at corporate R&D need to rethink and redesign that otherwise nice looking JHP in the 124Grn loading as your test proved, to my satisfaction at least, that the bullet as currently designed functions best out a near service-to-service size and barrel length pistol. Take care and keep up the great work!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. A little more spice would do these a world of good.
@randyhavard6084
@randyhavard6084 Жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power, and you puttin the knowledge out there brother
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel Жыл бұрын
Considering what it is they could bump the speed up I'd bet it would work better
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah. These bullets seem like they could handle it.
@martinpaiz5680
@martinpaiz5680 Жыл бұрын
Fine shooting sir!! Thanks for another great jelly test. Always appreciate the effort you put into your videos
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@tomsrandomness
@tomsrandomness Жыл бұрын
I'm loading speer gold dot 124 gn hp projectiles and trying to create a nice low recoil but effective in target round for my shorter barreled lead dispensers
@ctsnider88
@ctsnider88 Жыл бұрын
Well, that was interesting. That small amount of extra barrel length made that much difference. Have a good weekend Tools.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@curtk8130
@curtk8130 Жыл бұрын
I have an mp m2.0 9mm full size with a 5 inch barrel that would be perfect for tests like this. I know the difference between 4.25 and 5 isn’t gonna be massive but having a 3 and a 5 looks good on paper. Plus it’s a shooter I absolutely love the gun it’s fabulous. I have these exact bullets and after watching this video I’d only put them in a longer barreled gun. I like the sig v crowns they seem to be good hollow points. Price is decent as well. Has anyone ever heard of a brand novx? I got some 60 grain 9mm bullets that claim to do like 1800 fps. I bet they would over penetrate all day. Be fun to see u review those. Like always my friend great video!!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I have some Novx .300BLK I've tested that are supposedly defensive rounds but they're solid copper non expanding stuff. They weren't impressive at all in the test I did. I know they do have some other styles though that I haven't tried.
@curtk8130
@curtk8130 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I need to check out ur video. I think they call it the 9mm pentagon. Probably wouldn’t be that impressive because it seems those super light super fast bullets loose steam pretty quickly once they hit the gel. I love the area you do your testing in it really reminds me of home. I’m originally from Kentucky so all those ridge lines in the background look beautiful.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
@@curtk8130 It does make for some nice backgrounds for the videos. 😎👍
@thorfinthorfin3010
@thorfinthorfin3010 Жыл бұрын
I have had good luck with their 22lr high velocity. A little dirty but at least it's in stock most of the time.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@ZorcNecrofear
@ZorcNecrofear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video I just found a box at academy 50 rounds for $30
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice.😎👍
@kenworland1865
@kenworland1865 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting test! Like you, I was surprised! 👊👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@Highgear145
@Highgear145 Жыл бұрын
I used to carry this for self defense but i couldn't find anymore
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I never even saw any of it until now.
@Minutes-Mils
@Minutes-Mils Жыл бұрын
If they had this same design in a lighter 115gr, or a +P, it'd be a pretty good carry option
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Apparently, they have a 117 grain HP. Not sure if it's the same bullet.
@AK-ky3ou
@AK-ky3ou Жыл бұрын
Pretty nice out of the 4+ barrel
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Mhmm
@billdubois5223
@billdubois5223 Жыл бұрын
Another great jelly test Brotha .. I'd use this ammo , if I could find it locally .. I don't do CC's or online shopping ..
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Never seen it locally either.
@Papaw58
@Papaw58 Жыл бұрын
Great Video as always...I really like the Aguila FMJ Ammo and was Hoping the JHP's would be good performers. If both would've done like the P80 that would've been great. Maybe a " Summertime Only " for Short Barrel Tools. Thank You For this Video😀
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thank you sir.
@jackbaird5235
@jackbaird5235 9 ай бұрын
Another good honest straightforward test as always tools you are definitely my go to for any type of testing you jut tell it like it is good bad or indifferent unfortunately this one doesn't look good at all especially in the shorter barrel so hard pass on those rounds,. For 9mm i usually have either hst or v crowm 124 gr in 40 165 gr ranger t series is the absolute shit and completely devistating in 45 i have some Remington golden sabres and some barnes 185gr tac xpd +p for when i want to carry my freaking awesome hk45c as for the 9mm its my frankinsig which is m18 slide Wilson combat grip module and the fcu from my 320 xcompact the 40 is either hk usp 40 full size and just waiting for my p2000sk v3 to arrive.also been known to carry colt king cobra 3" barrel when im feeling the need for a wheel gun i like to change it up and make sure im proficient with all.gotta lovec choices and god bless America where we can do so,also god bless you and yours tools and may he and your sidearm keep you safe! Keep up the great work sorry for being so long winded gues i just got a little to excited and i made the espresso a little strong this morning 😅 do you have any other suggestions for 45acp?? Thank you again
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Tools. Nice round for the money, Thanks! 👍🏻😎
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
I understand why you don't do several tests/shots. It's gotta be expensive (esp with the high cost of the gel). Would be nice to see a couple shots though. Then you can see if they never expand from a particular gun/barrel length or if it's 1% that don't expand, 25%, or 90%, etc...
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
It's not about money, it's about time. I can tell you for a fact I wont ever do multiple shots of each round just for the sake of seeing what % rate expansion happens at. You wont be set up with a nice even block of gel in the real world so it's all speculation no matter how many rounds I fire into it. It's just simply not that important, not to mention the fact that every single time I have taken multiple shots with any round under any circumstances the results have been nearly identical.
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Good to know. Have seen some with variable results... but for the most part, most modern ammo is consistent.
@yuvgotubekidding
@yuvgotubekidding Жыл бұрын
You’re supposed to get 25 hours on a charge on the Axils. Oh well. As far as the Aguilas go we’ll see how the hold up in the field I guess. I’m set for now on 9 JHP rounds. I think. 😁 🇺🇸👍👊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
They were on in my bag for a few days.😆
@nickshowsstuff435
@nickshowsstuff435 Жыл бұрын
That clothing is really testing the limits! Curious how it would do without now but not curious enough to ask for another test that was enough! For budget hollow points Iv seen worse so I’d get them if it’s all I could find or for a beginner so they’re not overwhelmed with prices of target ammo on top of defensive.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd run it if I needed to but wouldn't go after it.
@shaggytitz7325
@shaggytitz7325 Жыл бұрын
Very nice grouping
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
💥😎💥
@jeremiah7855
@jeremiah7855 Жыл бұрын
Love the testing with denim thanks for listening for the request
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@Nutty.357
@Nutty.357 Жыл бұрын
Saw some of that online and wondered about it! Looked like it kinda wanted to open up in the gx4 but needed a little extra kick! Doubt they would do any better in my G3c! But maybe a G3 (on my wishlist next lol) Thanks for the info brother Happy Friday Jelly Time~!! 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I was hoping it would be a winner all around.
@darthamerica9119
@darthamerica9119 Жыл бұрын
If possible I'd like to see at least two shots in the gel to make sure the results are consistent from shot to shot. If you get two shots of the same ammo and it doesn't expand then in my humble opinion it's more likely not a one off. If you get one to expand and one that doesn't maybe the ammo is inconsistent. If you get two that expand then it suggests higher confidence in the results. The same applies to penetration depth. Just my 2 cents! I love this channel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
The problem there is it will never end. People wont be happy with a one expands, one doesn't situation and want a third, fourth, fifth. I don't have the time to devote a whole range day to just a couple of tests.
@darthamerica9119
@darthamerica9119 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I feel you man, but I was just about to ask you to do 100 rounds just to be more sure;) Just kidding! Still good work 👍🏽
@tahertz8544
@tahertz8544 Жыл бұрын
I see Nosler jhp online for extra cheap, also. A name I trust, try to get a hold of some of them.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Hmm, I'll check that out. My local shop probably has some. They carry quite a bit of Nosler stuff.
@slash19961
@slash19961 Жыл бұрын
My money is on how they load it. Aguila probably just loads them to the same standard as theyre range ammo, as we all know HPs need that extra velocity to mushroom out nice. its great if you want expensive range ammo :P
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think these bullets could definitely take some more speed.
@kennethrisner8648
@kennethrisner8648 11 ай бұрын
I was going to ask what's the cost of the ammo, then I realized sometimes when you mention guns and money together it can cause trouble with you tube. the fact it comes 50 a box hints it must be a good price. I think it should perform well in my taurus g3
@johnmikel5934
@johnmikel5934 Жыл бұрын
Got a 4.4 " barrel so great for me! Thanks for the eval.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@ep6606
@ep6606 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Tools, can you test PSA’s new AAC ammo for us? I for 1 would greatly appreciate it and thanks for putting out these videos.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
Pretty good out of 4in or longer. Looks like the 1040 to 1050 fps velocity is minimum for expansion versus no expansion thru cloth. Good comparison. 👍 🙏 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yep.😎👍
@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Went back & watched your video on Winchester USA Ready Defense 9mm vs Win. Defender cause local store had the USA on sale. Decided to pass. But they have Ranger T for around $47 a box. 👍
@trustnot9
@trustnot9 Жыл бұрын
GREAT TEST AS ALWAYS, ENJOYED WATCHING..
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate the support!
@frank6029
@frank6029 Жыл бұрын
Great job from the P80 but the Taurus had no luck Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏🙏
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Have a great weekend!
@frank6029
@frank6029 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets you also✌️🎅
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 Жыл бұрын
Decent performance out of a duty sized handgun. Haven’t tried that particular round. Thanks for the testing Tools!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya checkin it out!
@cloycespears9632
@cloycespears9632 Жыл бұрын
How you liking that Taurus GX4? I'm loving mine, shoots great and very accurate.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
It's been perfect. The price they're going for now is an absolute steal.
@Tom-cp6yj
@Tom-cp6yj Жыл бұрын
I have a few boxes of the 117gr and I wondered about their performance in short barrels
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
117 would probably be better for the short barrels.👍
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын
Looks like the expansion will all be gone if the target is a bit further away even with the 4.25 barrel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@sputnikjones2477
@sputnikjones2477 Жыл бұрын
I like Aguilla ammo I would grab a box if I saw it
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Always had pretty good luck with Aguila ammo.😎👍
@hunterman600cc
@hunterman600cc Жыл бұрын
curious where that puts a 3.4" 26 barrel for velocity... Seems it'd be right on the threshold.
@eldiabloblanco8787
@eldiabloblanco8787 Жыл бұрын
Well here I am again binge watching bullets and jelly....er I meant Tools & Targets.
@jaredgreen5840
@jaredgreen5840 Жыл бұрын
I think you're loosing velocity from those slide cuts but you gain a little back from the gold barrel. Lol 🤗😂
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@justinlanghorne9611
@justinlanghorne9611 Жыл бұрын
🎶 I want to fly like aguila, 🦅 let’s shoot and see. Fly like aguila, 🦅 but only in the p80! 🎼
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@randycchavez
@randycchavez Жыл бұрын
Been a minute since I last visited the channel and I'm liking the new test procedures. Keep up the great work...
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. Gotta keep on improving.😎👊
@randycchavez
@randycchavez Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets hey just letting you know something. I tried to sign up as a paid subscriber and YT is giving a non descript "error" and won't allow me to. I'll try it again in a day or two in case it's a temporary YT issue and let you know what's up...
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
@@randycchavez Pretty sure someone else mentioned that happened to them too. Maybe a temporary glitch on their end but either way, I really appreciate the thought!
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