Another Missed Shift! HUGE RPM in GR Yaris Caught on Video!

[@JamesDyer90]

Making an error was easy, putting it on the internet for all to see was not so but you do have to own your mistakes. Inspection of the top end of the engine showed no defects and was within spec to the Toyota workshop manual. The car has had a fair bit of use after this and engine performance is as per normal with no strange sounds. Thank you all for being reasonably gentle, if there is future engine issues i will post a video on my channel. It doesn't really make sense that I got away with it (so far) and Robert didn't.

[@RobertMitchell]

I’m glad you got away with it!! I was sick to my stomach when you messaged me that you missed a shift and was equally happy when the photo came of no damage!!!! Let’s keep our fingers crossed you have many care free km ahead on track. Can’t wait to see the progress vids of you driving

[@AnthonyGriz]

Thanks for taking the time to share your error Jame. Most people wont. There is definitely some good learning to be had from seeing people talk about their genuine experiences with the miss-shift, and what affect it has (or hasn't had) on the car. Hopefully out of all of this, Toyota are the ones taking the biggest notes, and perhaps looking at something they can potentially engineer into the manual transmission or ECU, that may help drivers avoid this situation happening in the future. I wish you well with the car and particularly the engine in the future with the racing you are doing.

[@terminator7514]

Hey Robert I think it be neat to have a glass display case at the studio or at the booking office of all the parts that get carnage over the time at the nurburgring. It be neat to see I know Real St performance has one of all the Supra parts they destroyed.

[@KXP70]

Respect to you for sharing man

[@aldozampatti]

#respect Also a bit jealous over here for kot being able to get a yaris un the US 😊

[@palmermonsen9098]

Props to the guy for sending it in, everyone makes mistakes and now he knows not to do that

[@RobertMitchell]

I agree! Really proud of him for sending that in. Many people would not

[@JamesDyer90]

Look. Its pretty obvious to not go to 1st instead of 3rd, but here we are.

[@heidelbergaren5054]

I’m surprised there’s no lockout, usually there is almost impossible to grab first over a certain speed

[@enriqueprslja6531]

@@RobertMitchell Oh cmon poor yaris needs a second engine swap xD

[@juancho939]

Im not kidding. I read the caption too fast and thought you had money shifted your Yaris again. Dropped my sandwich and now there´s peanut butter all over the floor of my kitchen. Thanks Robert

[@syedrehanfida]

I thought the same :D

[@miokujou]

You're not the only one. I was like "wait again?!"

[@yapira3d]

Is called ‘clickbait’ guys 😂

[@surenraj6450]

“Money shifted” 🤣🤣 Sorry bout your sandwich, Juan..tragic mate

[@mahkumification]

You Money shifted your sandwich

[@rjac001]

"Slow is smooth... Smooth is fast!!" That's how the saying goes

[@RobertMitchell]

I have to agree :-)

[@RollaKid16V]

The particular track that the car is being driven on doesn't allow for that, especially if you want to be quick there you have to throw the car around.

[@WeirdBrick]

I hear this all the time and it suits endurance racing but every time I see a top driver going for a fast time the car is pushed to its limits in a very aggressive way! Especially 4wd and fwd cars! Anyone who watched the old best motoring videos will see cars being thrown about like this! Clearly not for us normal drivers though.

[@seanm.collins9888]

Robert is secretly a famous techno DJ that plays Berghain every weekend. This is his secret recording studio that he records all his vinyl releases.

[@barcelonahola7911]

Could be man could be..

[@RobertMitchell]

You got me

[@SwedenBronco]

Robert for Tomorrowland!!

[@jpgmatrixgmail]

Robert is Daft Punk 🙈

[@KLOKSLAG1911]

Normally you get a money shift 🙈 you dodge the bullet there.

[@MrMatteo83]

That clip was stressful. Car was in pain the entire time. Have to drive smoothly. Slow in, fast out.

[@RollaKid16V]

You just can't do that on this particular track. You have to throw the car around to be quick and it's all done on cold tyres.

[@centralintelligenceagency9003]

With that guy's heavy breathing, it sounded like he just stole it.

[@H45N3P]

From personal experience, driving that tense not only makes you drive slower and stresses your car more, but it can cause physical strain to your neck, jaw, shoulders, and back. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast!

[@DannyColdhill]

Doing a trackday with (or a few) with an instructor, is the absolute best investment you can do as a driver. Better than ANY car mods money can buy. 🏁

[@RobertMitchell]

Could not have said it better myself

[@thereignofdando]

Its probably been said already, but a thing my Dad taught me when I learned to drive, is always have your palm pointed in the direction you’re headed for the next gear (if you have your hand over the top of the gear knob, like an octopus). If you grip the shifter like the grip in the mis-shift (like holding a drink), you are destined to slam it into the wrong gate. Sincere props to the driver for putting that out because I don’t know if I’d have had the stones to show that. It was fairly stressful to watch - zero mechanical sympathy that’s for sure, but at the end of the day, it’s the owner’s car and the owner’s money, so who are we to judge? So long as the video isn’t called “perfect driving technique” haha.

[@ikra]

This. I don't know why people grab the gear stick like it was a walking stick, or palming it like a ball. When I change gears I don't even wrap my fingers around the gear knob. I have an open palm and I just use the heel of my palm facing outwards (1st to 2nd for rhd) or inwards (5th & 6th) or neutral at the middle. The moment you're gripping on the gearknob you're forcing it and you're at constant tension. Try gripping onto a tennis ball hard with your free hand and driving around a twisty road compared to just putting your free hand on your knee rested, you drive so much better when you're relaxed.

[@thereignofdando]

@@ikra Totally. It's very hard to explain without having a visual cue, but essentially that's what I'm trying to get across.

[@StormerNF3]

at 11k rpm i expected those those 3 pistons to be turned into low orbit satellites. nice video and props to the guy for sending the clip

[@RobertMitchell]

Me too!!! Take out some spy satellites w the rods

[@kyleb5518]

I’ve seen engines eat there own pistons at less than 1k over redline, and some survive near double indicated redline, interestingly all extremes of that being old VW flat 4s

[@markscully2342]

@@kyleb5518 Years ago I use to build ford kent crossflow engines I had one with stock bottom end that saw 10,000 or more rpm repeatedly and survived. If someone else told me that I wouldn't have believed them!

[@volkanayyldz889]

Satellites 🤣

[@andybakr]

Total respect, Takes a brave man to admit a mistake and share it, well done.

[@JamesDyer90]

Cheers mate, some people are perfect and never make mistakes. Maybe one day I will get to that level

[@49tkscott]

The guy was working so hard, he was getting breathless. Controlled fury should be a better approach. Nice to know he got away without any major mechanical issues.

[@RobertMitchell]

He needed a little chill moment before setting off

[@behindthen0thing]

@@RobertMitchell he should've had a couple beers to take the edge off

[@JamesDyer90]

@@behindthen0thing I'll try that next time!

[@RollaKid16V]

You guys don't know the circuit, it's a very intense tight and short 1 minute hill climb with huge elevation changes. Bit unfair to label the driver this way when to be quick that's what needs to be done. On cold tyres too.

[@centralintelligenceagency9003]

@@RollaKid16V Still, he needs to control his breathing. He was hyperventilating, and once you start going light headed from that, mistakes become VERY likely.

[@giratina_86]

Takumi vibes, final stage and the end of the legendary engine

[@ianmoone6562]

This yaris gives the "DEJAVU! I've just been in this place before. HIGHER ON THE STREET" vibes

[@gafrers]

The guy was driving like if he had a "Speed (1994)" style bomb in his car.

[@RobertMitchell]

Lit up

[@JamesDyer90]

Somebody told me there was a $5 plastic trophy to fight for.

[@gafrers]

@@JamesDyer90 Kudos to You for sharing this and letting Robert use it. I hope you'll be back behind the wheel of the GR soon

[@JamesDyer90]

@@gafrers it has been on track already since the video occurred. Performing fine at this stage. The driver, well I don't think he ever performed well.

[@Jasta315]

LOL videos like this kill me. Some people just push it so hard when its actually slower. We do 20mph parade laps at my local track during laps and lattes and people still spin out and go off track all the time 😂

[@RobertMitchell]

Yes I’ve seen many things like that! People just need to chill out

[@kyleb5518]

Calm, quick and smooth driving is always best, I’m always slower and cock up whilst stressed and driving intensely

[@W1LL936]

Thanks for putting your ego aside and submitting the video, to make yourself better and sharing knowledge to help us all get a little better.

[@fredrikharaldsson2489]

Kudos for owning up to the mistake, I've misshifted, and being a bit paranoid about it since.

[@IMOVEOVERI]

Your relaxed attitude towards mishaps like this should be an example for everybody 🙌🏼 love your videos! Grüße vom Niederrhein

[@RobertMitchell]

Thank you Sven! Hope you have a great day

[@rafaelcordoba13]

I'm poor. I cannot miss-shift. I drive auto. LOL

[@ilforddave]

Robert : Hi Robert, I Love the videos you and Misha make. I'm a driving instructor here in the UK, today during a lesson, I had yet another pupil mis-shift in my tuition car, and yet again, explained why we don't need to hurry shifts on the road, I ended up mentioning to the pupil the potential cost of a miss shift to her, obviously along with the dangers of excessive engine braking on the roads, she was a little taken aback when I explained your miss-shift had cost 5K Euros ... I've been lucky with over revs so far in this career, the worst I've had was a pupil forcing a 116D into first gear at about 35mph, it survived but probably not by much, I think redline was around 27-28mph in 1st. Thankfully I have reasonably quick reactions, and usually hit my dual control clutch pretty quickly. Hopefully I'll get over to the ring on my motorbike soon. Keep up the great work, and try a nice Speyside Whisky, I'm a huge fan of a Glenlivet

[@steve5x565]

Should be called the ‘Tier 1 Studio’ 😉

[@RobertMitchell]

Good idea! I’ll let Tom know tomorrow :-)

[@49tkscott]

Nailed it Steve5x 👌

[@lightman489]

Definitely

[@surenraj6450]

Yessss 😄

[@KerneyAutomotive]

I almost did it in my sprint/hillclimb Clio 182 last year, miss shifted from 4th to 1st but luckily as soon as i started to let the clutch out i felt it wasnt right and pushed the clutch back in before it over revved.

[@dbullet9856]

Hey Robert! Last summer my parents bought me my first car, a 2009 Toyota Auris 1.33, a neat compact car I'm absolutely grateful to have. Switching to a hatchback after having driven an SUV ever since I got my license really changed my opinion about my dream car. And that's when it happened. In January 2021, the GR Yaris was released. I absolutely fell in love with it!!! I watched every single video about this car on KZbin and soon stumbled upon Micha and you. As soon as I got insight into the Ring life and track experience, I got obsessed with it and put it to my bucket list!!! My godfather, whose dad sold the Auris to us, moved to Germany last year, after having finished his university. As soon as I realized how close he was to the Ring (about 3h drive from Wurzburg, where he lives), I asked him if he would like us to go to the Ring once. Sadly, I doubt it's going to happen this summer because of the damn virus... :/ Anyway, long story short, I love the Ring and hopefully will experience it one day since I already started putting some cash aside for the whole trip. I love the GR Yaris and seeing it being driven the way this dude has, made me really sad because I would truly appretiate every moment of the driving experience in that car. However, I'm really happy she didn't get damaged again! :D Cheers from Croatia :)

[@CSalias]

I have miss shifted three times in my life,two of them were in a 2010 Yaris.It happened twice in a 500m spam.Miss shifted from high rev 2nd into 1st while I was obviously looking for 3rd.Happened once, and said “ok I got away with it”,actually called a friend a joked about it.At the next red light 1st into 2nd into 1st (while I was still on the phone joking about the previous miss shift),afterwards the car was miraculously turned into a 3 cylinder like your GR!It was luckily passed through warranty.Maybe it is a Yaris curse thing! Really enjoying your content,have a good one!

[@FaithlessEmoRacing]

thank you for sharing your views again Robert! always appreciate your down to earth approach to things. I agree that in the video he wasn't "listening" to what the car was telling him with the tyres and chassis and trying too hard! My GR Yaris arrives in the next couple of weeks and looking forward to enjoying it. hope you make something of the bits that we can get a hold of!

[@RobertMitchell]

congrats on the Incomming new car!!! Can’t wAit to hear what you think of this amazing thing.

[@dadbodforlife]

Miss shifts are a part of having a manual transmission. I’ve done it while doing “non-spirited” city driving. Wanted 4th and went to second. I was already in low RPM doing 30Km/h so no harm done. This drink sounds tasty. My usual cocktail is a Manhattan but will try this on the weekend.

[@charleslinlinker1479]

Video Chapter: "Hey everybody, i'm Robert" Video: "Hey everybody, I'm Robert" Satisfaction: 100%

[@palmermonsen9098]

Thanks Robert for the video, it has been crazy here in US with the ongoing trial and this is a great break from the news and school

[@RobertMitchell]

Hey Palmer I wish you some relaxation! You’ll get through it :-)

[@hectorherbert6585]

For many younger people who are not from the manual shifting generation ,who truly learned and drove their first time a 'stick' ,it is certainly a challenge to be harmonious between the feet and hands ,especially when driving 'hard'....understanding precisely the mechanical aspect of a manual transmission is really the key to "master'this way of driving ,because very experienced people also make mistakes...We learn everyday.

[@SixSpeedSeven]

Good thing I skipped to the main part before I commented because I was gonna yell at you for money shifting again

[@RobertMitchell]

Hahaha

[@ianmoone6562]

Respect for the driver to let it go for internet scrutiny and I had similar opinion, from the POV'S that i've been seeing I think way more episodes are yet to come for how confidence inspiring the car is.. People are really throwing the car everywhere lol

[@Propulus]

Kudos for the driver to put himself out there, and giving us a perfect example video. Not just what not to do, but just showing people, who think we're all doing it right, that no, maybe look into it, and maybe see something you do that looks wrong and fix it. If everyone looked at this video to learn at least 1 thing from it, the road would be a much better place.

[@RobertMitchell]

Such a great way to see his approach. Thank you for the positive feedback here!!!!

[@lewistheberzerker]

He got lucky because he probably didn't get negative temperatures during the night like you did.....

[@JamesDyer90]

Not sure that the temperatures make the difference in this, the cause of the failed bearing in the rocker arm i feel is unresolved.

[@lewistheberzerker]

@@JamesDyer90 I tink the temperatures where below 0 that night according Misha and/or Robert and they cited that as a possible cause of the failure...

[@lewistheberzerker]

@@JamesDyer90 we'll see in the future....

[@JamesDyer90]

@@lewistheberzerker for sure.

[@kylekeogh2731]

Assuming the car was warm when he misshifted the previous night’s temperature will not have affected it.

[@rjnation5042]

Again thanks Robert for an illuminating view of somebody else's miss shift, that was really heavy, I drive hard sometimes but that wasn't nice, I'm glad he let us see the video though, I've had my GR Yaris for a few months now, I haven't had any problems so far, it's become my go to car with almost 8,000kms on it, Rj in Oz

[@yousimtube123]

Robert seems like the track godfather with his negroni. Cheers from Brazil!

[@RobertMitchell]

Stay safe down there in Brazil!

[@ktmdukenz]

These videos just make me want a GR Yaris even more.

[@codemy666]

It's like one of those reenactments in the news, alot of screenshake and heavy breathing

[@JamesDyer90]

My life has constant heavy breathing and shaky video, maybe I should be going to the doctor not the race track.

[@ewrsteading235]

Having grown up with less than slick gearboxes the best lesson learnt was hand position on the gear stick. Simple. Where you put your hand helps prevents miss shifts - if you're heading for 3rd hand on top, 1st right side, 5th left side. Won't completely prevent them - if you get flustered there's still an over-rev coming your way - but works well... (hand position is for right hand drive cars)

[@davewatson3398]

Hey, I came for the Negroni. Can’t overrev those👍

[@RobertMitchell]

Precisely!!!

[@improcrastinating8063]

Can't get an allocation for the 992 GT3 but LOVE high revs? You won't believe this one guy's trick!

[@rs-flamingo]

I appreciate how much work you put into maintaining a good discussion and a good community

[@ericvermeulen9853]

I own a GR Yaris, and I must say coming from a manual BMW , the gearshifting is a bit tricky especially when not familiar with the car , but I became accustomed to the feel of it👌🏻👌🏻 , but like you said “ take it easy “

[@NigelsModellingBench]

My GR Yaris will be here in the UK around July this year. The rocker design on the GR looks very similar to the FA20, without any positive location other than valve/lifter/cam. Take away any one of those supports for a millisecond and that lifter can pop out. I believe this is why over boosting or over revving these engines, just like the FA20, is a big risk. Saying that, a friend did the same on his Golf R, 2nd to 1st, and bent I think 8 valves!! As you say, smooth, calculated actions while performance driving will always be faster. Just watch the old GpB Rally drivers when they were Manual, they drove so so fast, but so so smooth.

[@Gautonwheels]

And..... cocktails are back !! I started to get a bit tired of the Chelsea Sidecar and was wondering when a new one to try over the week end would come ;) Here it is, thanks Robert !

[@RobertMitchell]

Hey man, glad to be bringing the cocktails back to the videos. Which cocktail would you like to see next? Tom and Sid hit up the alcohol store this afternoon so we have a lot in stock to make loads of different drinks :-)

[@Gautonwheels]

@@RobertMitchell :D Anything with Gin, Rhum or Whishy (in that order) works ! But I know nothing about cocktails so any with one of those 3 in the ingedrient list will do the trick ! It will be a new step in my cocktail learning experience !

[@asifrahman7557]

Tomorrow on Craigslist "sparingly used, driven by my mom for groceries"

[@16matusko]

It might sound weird, but the first car I got to do "stupid" stuff a teenage car guy does, was a 1.0 base spec Yaris 2nd gen with some decent tires and no A/C. I loved it because it was light and had no power, so I could throw it into pretty much any corner at any speed (sensibly that is) without getting beyond the limits of the car or my inexperienced self at the time. And I think that some people are misunderstanding the new Yaris in this sense as In my eyes, and I might be wrong as I haven't had the chance to drive it yet, this Yaris is meant to be a light, chuckable car, a car that can keep up it's momentum while having a very impressive power to weight ratio. Simply a car to learn to be smooth with while not feeling like you're the slowest thing on the track (looking at you, awesome Miatas). At least that's how I look at it.

[@ryangibson7620]

Omg he is agresive with his revs " credit to him for sending it in "

[@joaoluistavares6046]

From what I see, it could be called the "High-Class Studio", "Relaxing Studio", "Business Studio", "Premium Studio"... You know? I wasn't going to judge him. First I've never been to any track before. Even if I was, I don't think it helps to criticize a person for committed mistakes. He admitted. That means he's humble and wants to evolve. After watching the video, the best is to remember that nothing happened to him, he is ok. Since he really looked nervous. It sounds like he just went to the track by himself and wanted to enjoy a timed lap at the first attempt. Things didn't go well with him. Therefore I thank him for sharing his experience. Now, as for the missed shift. Just from a perspective point of view. Well from what I know, we should never go back into first gear like this, because it's the quickest way to blow up the engine. Of course, we are in 2021, technology evolved a lot, so did the engines. Besides, I only know information about this engine from the press and your experience on the Green Hell. So I'm not the right person to say why he was luckier than you. Calling out for defects is also really hard when it's the driver's mistake. But it is something really strange. This is where I love mechanics. If there's really a problem, soon or later it will be discovered. To me, the missed shift was a piece of bad luck due to his high level of stress. I think that the way he was breathing may be a serious problem for a person's health (if it becomes often). It should be relaxing and taking enough time to understand how the engine works, how the differential works if those are the best tires, or maybe for him another set of tires may be a better fit. If the suspension is working well, etc...After all the necessary knowledge about the car and the track, then yes, time to attack it really hard. But again, what if he already did all of this? Then we would go in this thing like "He's not good enough. He didn't do his homework correctly. Was he dancing?". But it's always easy to talk when it's a person from the outside. That's why we can't judge him. The more people we have like him, with different mistakes or not, the better for the sports and driving enjoyment. I'm always a fan of smooth turns. Slowing down to the right speed and making that turn with a lower gear. Or doing the trail-braking as you explained. I remember two examples. One, I think I already mentioned. That great race Ayrton Senna did back in 1993 when he overtook all the other right at the first lap. In the end, a Brazilian journalist asked him if he made a turn at third gear (since all the others did at second). He answered "sometimes at third, some other times at fourth gear. Why pushing the engine? Just let the vehicle go and..." The other example (I hope I didn't write this yet) is me. Back at the end of the 90s, from my Avenue (Av. do Bocage) to another (Av. da Liberdade) there was this 90 degrees turn. It was wide enough for a good speed. Since I saw the bus drivers turning the O305 at 40Km/h (on last gear), I decided to do the same with my bicycle. And I did many times. I rolled up to 55Km/h in 350 meters and then reducing to make that turn. It was always great, the filling, the precision. Not more than 40. I did it two times more than that and I could only use the rear brakes (the cantillever ones 1995) with maximum precision in order to reduce the speed. All of this while I was pedaling. Naturally, it wasn't at first. In the beginning, I didn't even make the turn. I always stopped before. Then I started to become faster and faster. Then I first achieved that 55Km / h until it became a routine. Then, by coincidence, I saw those bus drivers doing what they did and the rest is history. It was perfect. I even call it linear turns, like a compass drawing the perfect circle. So that's it. Nothing like experience and learning from the wrong choices we commit sometimes.

[@jacksonzhong9298]

I used to miss shift my STI trans too, 90% because me 10% because of the factory close 3 5 One major tip I can give people is that don't grip hard on the shift knob even when you are shifting quick, guide the shift, not harsh holding forcing it into gear

[@RobertMitchell]

100%! A relaxed grip With positive hand movements is what you need

[@alexlam24]

@@RobertMitchell It's not just for shifting

[@aminedahimene5722]

Good point, I got GR Yaris, but it’s my daily drive. However I think the gear shift are together, narrow in between and short range, so sometimes you don’t know what gear, worth to check you are at before changing...

[@stephenpeacock2627]

Fair play to the driver for sending it in. Agreed, he needs to calm down. Feels like aggressive panic driving. Sometimes slower is faster. Hard on straights, slower into corner, hold it on the bend and hard out of the corner. He is fast in straight, fast into corner, holding onto dear life in the corner, and slow out of the corner. But then who am I to educate, lol.

[@putraputrimalu8790]

Another suggestion is ... Vehicles like heavy haulage trucks equipped with or without Torque Converter semi automatic or manual transmission usually have high and low differential settings aka a Splitter(US term) Meaning, a standard 6 speed manual or semi auto can be used with dual range of differential(final) tranmission speed. There is always a safety switch incase the Hi/Low selection switch was accidentally engaged from hi to low gear range, it won''t be engaged mechanically. That said ... Toyota knows very well whether to fit a reliable electronic sensor/solenoid sensor switch on the trasmission and incorporated it to the engine ECU IF they deem it suitable and necessary or not, to prevent the accidental transmission down shift from say 6th to 3rd, or 5th to 2nd, or 4th to 1st or whichever gear level action that may cause the engine to mechanically over revved and break down! Alternatively, Toyota can space out the gear lever selections gap and lever movement control WIDER, so as mistakes can be MINIMIZE to occur ...BUT fast drivers won't like that would they? LOL Anyway, an electronic sequential semi/manual auto transmission with drag race launch control won't be a bad idea IF buyers don't complain about its cost ...LOL Best of luck Drive safe always ...

[@micheltebraake7915]

There are a lot of people with a fast car who think they are a racing driver (big ego), and then this happens.

[@freecanadaplease]

I think it's shock load from the parts sudden increase of force. Not just high rpms. Your basically stopping your car with the rockers, it's just finding weakest link. I've seen many s54 with broken crank pulleys shearing off woodruff keys from too hard a downshift, not even a miss shift. And miss shift braking the crankshaft in half. The problem may be the shifter linkage but also the grip of the tires. If you were on stock tires might have lessened the forces.

[@gryaristaiwandrive]

Totally agree with you on Smooth & Fast❤️‍🔥Maybe using double clutching could avoid missing shifts🙌

[@hamzasherazi9334]

For a second I thought oh no not again. It was interesting to see that no damage was caused to the engine in this instance. Maybe luck was a factor. I hope the driver learns from your advice and drives the car with a level of respect. That way he will get much more out of the car and will probably enjoy the car a lot more. Btw love the area you are sat in. It's pretty lit.

[@RobertMitchell]

Thank you, I’m glad you like the new studio! We threw it together really quick and it’s quite comfortable. Should be able to make some fun videos there. My understanding is the driver has pretty good access to that track so hopefully he can take some time and really get comfortable with the car

[@loose_unit]

Great analysis, I have personally done something similar downshifting into Ex-Mühle in my Miata - I hit around 9 krpm, I noticed very quickly and never fully lifted off the clutch ... It can happen to anyone, and it is much more likely to happen when you are tense and pushing hard, as you said. Another great video!

[@bartekb5074]

I have been cured from manual gearbox, since I had drove with it on track. It was a nightmare to brake, change to right gear, turn. Paddle shifters, are quicker easier and stupid proof. And after track session you can drive it in auto back home in traffic jam.

[@RobertMitchell]

There is no doubt that a good DCT relieves a lot of stress while driving. However driving a manual and getting it right is certainly rewarding. There’s no wrong answer in anybody that’s on the fence should just go automatic and enjoy themselves

[@bartekb5074]

@@RobertMitchell that is absolutely true, Robert.

[@tracktimevideos5164]

Automatic gearboxes take away so much involvement. They are certainly easier to drive but also certainly much less fun.

[@belgianbushrc7934]

A good dct box is like intercourse with a condom. It’s still great fun but you loose a lot of the feeling...😂😅

[@SROC276]

You found a future factory recall...agree with your misshift input.

[@CarvingCanyons]

Another great one Robert! But ya that seems odd that we have such a difference in damage

[@RobertMitchell]

Especially considering how much higher he went

[@motojojo_]

At least the driver is aware of the issue, hopefully it’s lesson learned. As the Navy SEALS say - slow is smooth, smooth is fast. With regards to the engine trouble itself... maybe it wasn’t the missed shift, maybe you were just unlucky with that particular set of rockers, trouble is there’s too many unknowns (such as the temperature fluctuations) so no point worrying about it. You’ve taken the hit, hopefully it doesn’t happen again, but if it does you’re a bit wiser.

[@RobertMitchell]

I could have been unlucky and just exposed the issue. Who knows!

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

It does tend to support the notion that there was a flaw in the rocker on your car. I look at what the tuners are doing with stock Honda motors. They might put in some stronger valve springs and then rev them to the moon on every pull without catastrophic damage.

[@alainveenman6571]

What a clean explanation of things and everybody makes mistakes thats why we are humans Respect ✌👍👍👍

[@jackemarleeyoung]

I’m just hoping I don’t do the same thing one day. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

[@RobertMitchell]

I hope you don't also! It's not fun haha :-)

[@xMSZx]

I personally mishifted our dealership demo car from 2nd to 1st instead of 3rd on quite high rpms and car still works fine. So far car did about 4k miles, has been bashed by customers on test drives, few salesmen and managers took it on "weekend drive" and the only thing what we had issues with was clutch which just been worn out.

[@RobertMitchell]

You probably smoked the clutch for them hehehe

[@xMSZx]

@@RobertMitchell Yeah and I had to replaced it and it took me a while. According to the manual engine has to be removed for clutch replacement. But after all I had it for overnight testing and "bed in" new clutch :D

[@andreiiordache5429]

Hello Robert, nice seeing a new video with you, especially in my favorite "setup", in what looks to be a very comfy armchair, with a nice drink on the side table :). As per the issue at hand, you did put the good disclaimer before presenting us with the video of the miss shift but I wouldn't have jumped on the guy's driving style anyways. I think it is brave for him to share it and admit his mistake and I truly believe that I will make for a good driving lesson so ... that should be enough. If on the way, this also helps others to learn ... this is literally a public service :).

[@TwopintTilbs]

Looks as though the driver selected 1st gear on that shift as a result of his hand placement on the gear stick .. maybe the gloves weren't helping 😂

[@dehaviland7645]

Yeah, I was going to comment something similar. His hand movements were all over the place and I certainly believe it contributed.

[@jpdw7543]

Just home from a long working day, know where to be careful of when my wife's GR Yaris arrives, let's make a negroni. Perfect video 😉

[@RobertMitchell]

ENJOY!!!!

[@RCForcesSK]

Loving the engine scraps display on your table 💯 looks expensive

[@ILCapo-mo5jj]

Thanks for another great educational vid. We all occasionally make mistakes, no matter how experienced. Sharing our mistakes is grand 🏆

[@oscarzt1652]

7:26 holy shit that chucked me forward in my seat

[@Dave-gl6jb]

God 80km shift in 1st. Thanks Robert for the video this excites me and scary at the same time. PS So as a Yaris GR owner will admit that I have shifted from 2nd to 1st try to go in 3rd twice. Once over a bumb on the road at like 30km and other just driving normal road at 35km. I was shocked it goes into 1st this easy and since doing it the second time trying to be more soft with gear shifts. Now for the gear box. It's a little close and very easy to put it in the wrong gear. My fault sure but like Robert said be careful as most of us are not pro drivers/ Rally drivers. My first performance car. It's a hell of a car for price.

[@RobertMitchell]

Now you have it in your mind so hopefully will keep it out of first ;-). Enjoy the great car Dave!!!!

[@EspenX]

You can criticize this guy's driving all you want, but you can hear on his breath he is doing a realistic "Getting away from zombies during the apocolypse" drill. I salute you Sir for zombie-escape proofing your Yaris ahead of time. You will have the last laugh.

[@EspenX]

@Robert Mitchell, dude is your youtube account hacked or something?

[@ActingTanka]

Ironically, the driver should have popped a Valium first and he would have been faster. On that note, have you considered doing a sleep podcast Robert? Your voice is extremely relaxing. Probably a great asset as a driving instructor.

[@Joolz1982]

Enjoyed listening and hats off to the guy that sent the video. Maybe the engine does not like to be revved too high in GR Yaris possibly.

[@kickdoc2427]

Great video. Reminds me when I used to ride the ring many years ago (motorbike), we used to do minimum breaking laps where we only break 3 times, taught me how to be very smooth and balanced in my riding with less stress and angst. Eventually 9 min BTG laps only breaking 3 times became relaxed and comfortable, of course not as much traffic back then (~1998) his translated into faster laps with more breaking but still smooth and stress free (mostly lol)

[@JamesDyer90]

I've done the same type of thing at Phillip Island a few years ago when I was on bikes. Certainly helped then.

[@tracktimevideos5164]

Wow, proper case of "drive it like you stole it". I am quite hard on my cars on track but that was just next level abuse.

[@gerasimoskardaras1319]

Thanks for sharing with us, indeed sometimes we should be careful

[@RobertMitchell]

Absolutely!

[@marcnobel3938]

Happy to see a proper drink in a proper glass again! My resume: Better miss the missed shift! - Great Video! Perfect to come down after work. - Have a great evening! Cheers!

[@RobertMitchell]

Bette to be missing shifts vs sitting on the couch hehe

[@marcnobel3938]

@@RobertMitchell Ha Ha Ha! True exchange of wisdom here I see. Almost like the Sun Tzu of the sportscar world. - Sitting here with my friend Johnnie W. and enjoying the show.

[@RobertMitchell]

@@marcnobel3938 enjoy the visit w JW!!!

[@marcnobel3938]

@@RobertMitchell Today he came dressed in blue and that`s why I really go slow now and enjoy it.

[@RobertMitchell]

@@marcnobel3938 have a wonderful night Marc!!!!

[@Epiphonech]

Oh no. Oh no. Oh no no no no no. Thanks for your effort and sharing! Appreciate time stamps and saving our time! Watched whole vid though

[@1911indi]

Bobby you are a straight honest person n kudos to your sharing all this info in all of its details... which is incredible! Toyota has had its blunders in the past (1st gen prius killer) since they are only human...too! just my ignoramus thinking - that shifting from 5th to 2nd [might] be more damaging due to the rotational and torsional high speeds of all mechanicals .... As compared to shifting from 3rd to 1st as in this instance ?!?! Surely with time, there's going be better evidence of what {if} any demons exist in this beautiful dream of a GR Yaris !!! Thank you so much Robert, Misha and Toyota for its GR division!

[@otlotl009]

As an owner, I think that the gearbox shift pattern is quite unforgiving. You have to be really precise with your gear entry or you will slip out into other gears easily. 2nd to 3rd is tricky to shift fast and smoothly. Also, the tightness of a new shifter/gearbox proably did not help.

[@TSEDLE333]

I drove manuals for most of my driving life (near 22 years now...wow... I feel old...). Seeing this kind of miss shift, I'm quite happy I'm on an automatic gearbox on my current car... Forget 'purism' when a manual gearbox may be prompt to cause such miss shift...and quite a few manuals world over can and are prompt to it. I'm not saying that there isn't some driver fault here. There's plenty. I'm saying that some manual boxes are simply prompt to user error more than any automatic are and that I understand why hyper/super/sports cars manufacturers simply moved over to dual/multiple gear automatic boxes... I was the guy that, 20 years ago, said I would never buy an automatic. Kudos to the guy for admitting his mistake and posting the vid. Not many would do that.

[@davidcupra4913]

Great video again Robert. It will be interesting too see how these engine wear over time.

[@RobertMitchell]

We shall see

[@timessix8434]

I am not surprised his engine seems to have survived, I am surprised your engine went. You’re not to blame, I am convinced there was something wrong in your engine. Maybe even an assembly issue from the original build, the rocker pin was maybe not properly in from the start.

[@RobertMitchell]

This very well could be the case! I however have no way to prove otherwise. So the only thing we do know is that I over rev’d it

[@timessix8434]

@@RobertMitchell Yup, I know. Maybe the final proof will be that Toyota will NOT do a recall a all GR Yaris engines in the near future... :)

[@TomsWhip]

Enjoying a negroni right now. thanks for the suggestion ;)

[@surenraj6450]

Totally agree with you Robert..smoothness would’ve prevented this. That weight shift was painful to watch and hear..Here’s to hoping he’ll have abit more mechanical sympathy after this Good question though.. is it a defect from the factory or driver error 🤔 🧐

[@RobertMitchell]

I guess we'll find out more as time goes on…

[@David-rq9dl]

I tried analyzing the sound of his money shift. The engine seems to have revved up to around 8300rpm. The clutch has really done a great job at slowing him down

[@RobertMitchell]

I think it’s much higher than this. The clutch could not slow him down...

[@thatcopenguy]

Looking at the speedometer after the miss shift the car stayed at around 70km/h. Unless if the clutch somehow slipped, it's easy to assume that the engine spun at around 10-11k.

[@David-rq9dl]

I agree. But if we assume a speed of around 70kph (it's kinda hard to read) and we know the gear ratios it would give us an overrev of around 8700rpm if thats correct. Gear ratios of the yaris gr : media.toyota.co.uk/wp-content/files_mf/1604077635201029MGRYarisTechSpec.pdf

[@RobertMitchell]

@@David-rq9dl you don’t need tire sizes and speedo to calculate the rpm on the misshift. When he shits first and wants 3rd he is at about 6800 rpm in 2nd 6800 rpm / 2.238 (2nd gear ratio) is 3038 3038 x 3.538 (1st gear ratio) is 10.749rpm On the speedo you can see he’s over 80kmh (only every 20 km/h are numbered. I make out around 82-83kmh. Going from 6800 to 8300 will NOT stop a car like that;-).

[@bokyy747]

It would be much easier if we knew what is the top speed in 1st gear at the limiter? ... We are wasting his time, after long and detailed video, but hey, thats the internet :D:D Robert ?

[@danhyde2656]

Did a 4th to 3rd went to around 85-9. Lifter floated out. Engine grenaded. Block was good. Now I have a built bottom end 9-1 compression. Built head and a spinny thing. Toyota 2zr-fe

[@AdsTrapatony]

When I got my RHD Evo I almost miss shifted it a couple of times due to lack of experience shifting with my left hand. Until that point I never felt I would never miss shift and failed to understand how people did it. So it kinda made me a better driver and even more carefull with the gearbox, sad that you guys got the same lesson with a bill attached to it.

[@RobertMitchell]

Switching drive sides makes you really aware!!!

[@riccccccardo]

I’ve just gone from 15 years of manual only cars I’m a great car driver recently switched to a auto cvt Lexus 450h gs f sport. As I’m older now loving not having to shift my own gears now.

[@mitkrov31]

Cool video once again, good conversation. I still think if your Yaris engine had some more break in km's on it, it would have taken the slight over rev you had. (Couple thousand kms' and an oil change) Although the engine is ready to run from the factory, all the parts still needs to. "find there place" by wearing in for lack of a better word. Looking forward to the next video and sign me up for a rocker arm keyring if you end up making them ;)

[@joncooper253]

Great vid Robert. Underlying message of being mad at the wheel is not necessarily fast. Jackie Stewart always said "smooth and gentle is fast". get what you get.

[@RobertMitchell]

Yep. Get back what you put in

[@TheGodMob]

I completely agree that a missed shift is a driver's error, we are human and make mistakes, after all. There is nothing to be ashamed about. But I have to ask, out of complete ignorance, of course, whether the transmission synchros and/or the linkages allow for aggressive/fast gear changes. After all, when going around a track, or a corner mainly, the driver's body is not straight and the angle he uses force to shift gears might be misinterpreted by his senses. For example, I own an ND MX-5, and I can feel that, for the cars power, the gear changes are solid and the gear stick feels secure. I've driven other EU cars (mostly VAG and PSA groups) that vary from a nice hard feel to a mushy, long travel gear change. I honestly doubt this is an issue on an homologation special like the GR Yaris. Time will tell if this becomes a recurring problem (though, as pointed out in the video, since the car is so accessible, this will also mean that more inexperienced hands will also get ahold of it)

[@andreasstahlgren.6755]

Relevant question regarding Gr Yaris : Have Toyota actually sampled sound up to above 11.000 rpm for the interior synthetic sound ? 🤷‍♂️😏😂

[@RobertMitchell]

:-) haha

[@andrewdavis2325]

I think at some point in our lives a lot of us have got excited behind the wheel. As you get older you understand about setting the car up for Benz get in the way where you need it for the grip. I think there is maybe the short shift of the gearlever that is causing an issue with the Yaris. Great video, keep doing what you’re doing.

[@rc51bigdaddy]

At first I thought you had missed a shift! Glad it was someone else. For me, the jury is still out on whether GR Yaris engine issues are Toyota or driver based. Seems a disconnect that you could have an issue and he did not. Best advice I could give to that driver is to do a driving skills school if he hasn't already. I did that with sport bikes and it probably saved me some bad crashes and taught me the principles that apply equally well to driving cars. Smooth is fast. I wonder if Toyota is having meeting about this back in Japan......!

[@shaunwhitfield112]

Another cool vid Robert 🙌🙌🙌🙌😎👍great content as ever🙌wise words and very well measured 👌

[@RobertMitchell]

Thank you Shaun!

[@kaeserd]

I dont know if it's from a movie or a race driver quote but I once heard that " slow is fast". You gotta be relaxed to drive fast. That dude is anything but relaxed.

[@EdwardViaTomato]

sounds like Top Gear, not sure if it predated that

[@warrenlucier5796]

The valve spring in your engine found a harmonic it couldn't handle and then the rocker arm shifted to one side and then the damage started. Sometimes one gets lucky and parts stay in alignment and you get another day. I hope that car comes to the US, as I think it's a nice package.