Another Tesla Wall Connector Installed in Golden, CO

My buddy Greg and I installed another Tesla Wall Connector. Greg gets his new Long Range Model Y this week. See how this one was installed. Have a Look.
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[@gapo62angler93]

I watch a lot of this connector videos and I don’t understand why 99% of people land the wires on the breaker first , it’s always a good practice to always land your wires on the load side first for safety purposes just in case you have a faulty breaker or in case someone accidentally turns the breaker on while you’re landing wires on the wall connector after you have landed wires on the breaker. Just my honest opinion. 🙏🏽✌🏽

[@atb2003]

The Install seems clean but NEC prohibits single conductors without conduit in the wall. (4/3 romex could have been used without using the white wire). Also NEC requires 3 ft clearance on the panel and the Tesla controller appears to be in the way of the bottom right corner; otherwise good video.

[@jeremytews3006]

THHN wire needs to be in conduit for anyone watching this video. Don’t follow this video

[@lymanhall5449]

Exactly… A big no-no..

[@ericjorgensen4826]

You could also use some #6 AWG NM (non metallic (Romex)) cable in this application, but not individual wires taped up. Also need a Romex connector where the NM cable goes into the wall connector.

[@00056433]

Agree with you guys, it has to be in a conduit

[@GROGU123]

@@ericjorgensen4826 No you can't use Romex 6/2, unless you limit the breaker to 50 amps. Romex 6awg is only rated to 60c ampacity, which is 55amps. For this application, to get the full charge rate, you need a 60 amp breaker. Proper design capacity is 80% of the breaker, as being your actual load which is 48 amps.

[@brianbeasley7270]

I'm concerned about these installations and giving people bad information. THHN cable inside walls requires conduit. The electrical tape wrap you did is not going to meet code. It would have been simple to install a short piece of plastic conduit in this installation by just making the hole size in the wall a bit larger and inserting it through the wall and fastening it on both ends (service box and wall charger). I believe you could have used 6-2 Romex without conduit and been just fine but it is supposed to be strain relieved with a fastener. Some of the strands of wire on the red conductor were both nicked and removed on the second cut which is a no-no also as this reduces ampacity.

[@christophertilley4297]

I researched this extensively. 6/2 Romex doesn’t have the ampacity. It’s rated at 55 amps for short duration loads and only 44 amps continuous. The charger can do 48amps. I ended up using 6/2 MC cable as it can be run like romex, but for this short distance, who cares about conduit? Also noticed the wrong clamps used, but yet again, for this distance who cares. He practically installed it less than a foot from the panel.

[@mech-E]

You can make an account for free to read the NEC online. Most people don’t know what the code is and therefore don’t follow it.

[@brianbeasley7270]

​@@christophertilley4297 The EVSE can be provisioned to accept a 50 Amp breaker and 40 Amp continuous, so Romex is OK as long as that is how the EVSE and circuit is provisioned. For 48 Amps, THHN in conduit should be used. Code certainly cares about conduit for THHN cables inside walls.

[@dsipropertiesllc6049]

Plainly said: Very dangerous to install 240V - 60 Amps wires hidden behind sheetrock without conduit! Do Not Do This!

[@KevinHartman84]

BINGO! #wherestheconduit

[@somemovingpictures]

A little nit pick here. It would be safer to fully wire the charger prior to wiring the panel. The chances of the breaker being switched are minimal, but with the panel open and right above where you are working, they do exist.

[@jeffkass858]

Hi Dave. Your videos are my favorite Tesla related ones to watch. You never disappoint me. Safe travels!

[@johnpoldo8817]

It’s nice to see old-timers my age successfully tackle a DIY install. I loved the Dynamo label maker, ass-end first, and smoke test references. I can relate using the same terminology.

[@KevinHartman84]

Half assed tackling. Gotta know how to do it right IMO......or real electricians have to come back and fix jerry rigged shit later.

[@johnpoldo8817]

@@KevinHartman84 Gee, I thought Dave did a good job, except for lack of 1 ft conduit. Dave appears to have electrical engineering experience.

[@KevinHartman84]

@@johnpoldo8817 engineering and electricians are different. One sits at a desk and draws plans, one does install and sees the errors with the plans. Dave doesn't even appear to know what the NEC is. My 2 cents

[@1983randerson]

Next time hire a licensed electrician.

[@dmdrewitt]

Very interesting to see these Wall Connector installs. Thank you Dave. You go a great job one handed whilst holding the iPhone!!

[@robm6962]

Would have been nice if you wired it to code when you went into that electrical box that’s is not to code😢

[@mroryyoung]

Noticed the Use of THHN inside a wall without conduit. NEC code violation. Metallic flex or flex pvc would have worked well.

[@KevinHartman84]

Yes, does dave really know what he's doing? lol

[@jimsummers487]

Do you always film your fire code violations?

[@coldnorthAK]

Love the ol paper towel to hold the apex bit in.

[@jelderBEATMONSTA]

I love the micro management in this video

[@wolfejar]

Great video. I’m a native to Colorado, my grandfather worked in golden at the Coors a long time ago. Great city.

[@JohnWoodell]

Why are you not running romex?

[@mowcowbell]

I'm amazed at how thin & flexible that cable is on the Tesla Wall Connector. The cable on my Autel Maxicharger is much thicker and far less flexible.

[@evdave528]

Wire with lots of annular area with small stands is smaller with same current capability.

[@themeg522]

Good Video, I thought the largest breakers IE 60AMP should be placed nearest to the main lines. I see the 60AMP furthest away from the main lines.

[@evdave528]

For best results locate the 60 amp breaker close to the main breaker but if due to existing wiring it may not be possible

[@billsharp2351]

Wow! So many code violations, it's scary. And no connections torqued to spec anywhere.

[@greglambert5154]

Another satisfying wall connector install. Is the beginning of you and Greg starting your own electrify America network??

[@sarcasmmuch8905]

44 years says if you don’t know what you are doing you shouldn’t do it

[@KevinHartman84]

Well put. Obviously dave only knows a lil bit, not a lot.

[@eniobaptista8008]

What will happen if you don't connect the wall connector to Wi-Fi ?

[@KevinHartman84]

where's your conduit?!?

[@Dezmond_Roman]

Where is the conduit?

[@anthonychappell4746]

What was the purpose of the soap?

[@redding4540]

I don't know if it's secure enough to hold on drywall with all the pulling, stretching and putting a weight on that thing. Whole thing broke off after 15 months later. I relocated to stud.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Another excellent installation! I wish that I got had done it this way instead of having a NEMA14-50 outlet installed.

[@laloajuria4678]

i mean if you need 48A, its hard wired. having the nema while slower, is way more versatile for the future.

[@mowcowbell]

I'm glad I went with a NEMA 14-50 outlet. I can charge any EV with this setup.

[@vilo3454]

DO NOT FOLLOW THIS VIDEO. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE “EHHH ITS WORKIN, SO ITS FINE” JOBS. First its mounted too damn low, even the manual that comes with the charger says mount at shoulder height for convenience, They used no conduit and at least could have used a jacketed wire. PLus I don’t hire anyone who uses the term “drill gun” ….It’s a DRILL , where are you getting the “gun” part from…it doesn’t shoot anything????!!!

[@brianpreston8483]

But I love watching the Tesla owners sleep in their cars at dunkin donuts

[@trevoralaine]

Try lubing your screws with bees wax from a toilet bowl ring.

[@AndrewDyle]

left handed, or sinistral, is an advantage in life.

[@Chito350]

Hi Dave Great Video! …….Question? How were you able to tighten the 3/4 wire clamp to the breaker panel? I know those clamps have a lock ring? Thanks in advance

[@evdave528]

Snap in type

[@johnsisneros5135]

Why did you go red, black, green. The Tesla video shows black , red, then green,???? Will it damage or blow if the black is first then the red??

[@jacklurie2496]

Electricity is color blind.

[@pavels5600]

I'm also planning on using a 60A breaker & 4AWG for the full 48A sometime in 2022. Many KZbin videos show the Tesla Gen3 charger being installed with 50A & 6AWG for 37A. I don't know why they limit themselves so much.

[@evdave528]

V3 wall connector, 60 amp breaker, #6 or 4 to run 48 amps

[@Zazupii]

I’m getting 48A on a 60A breaker with a #8

[@GROGU123]

@@evdave528 Romex is only rated for 60c temperature, that said 6awg is only rated for 55amps@60c. If using Romex, it must be 4awg for your 2 poles and 8awg for the ground. You can use 6awg THHN wire in a smurf tube, but you must also make sure your breaker is rated for at least 75c temp. If all your components are rated for 75c or higher, than you're good for 65amps and should be fine.

[@GROGU123]

@@Zazupii Even THHN cable @90c is only rated for 55amps. 8awg Romex is only rated for 40 amps. You're going to burn your house down running Romex. You can get away with THHN because the charger only uses 48amps max, which is under the 55amp rating. But that's not following the design code of 80% load. You're flirting with danger using THHN 8awg and fire is very possible using Romex 8awg.

[@stevephla]

@@Zazupii That #8 must get pretty warm at 48A sustained.

[@YoYoRaMa]

Can you provide the link to buy the same power/wire (black/red/green) thanks for the details.

[@aclevelandjr]

I just got a gen 3 wall connector installed. Should it make a click noise when it turns on and off? I just wanna make sure it was installed correctly. I got it installed a couple of weeks ago and took delivery of the car today so I couldn’t test it then.

[@lymanhall5449]

Ok.. I’ve seen enough 🤦😳

[@user-ok1vo6hf3i]

we installed the Tesla wall connector today, but when connecting to the wall connector Wi-Fi, it keeps showing that there is no Internet connection, so I can't enter the wall connector setting page, but I can't enter the Ip page! Do you know why? Is it because the wall connector Wi-Fi is broken? Or do you need a car next to you? Or for other reasons?

[@Joe-ff1oh]

Is the wire aluminum

[@christophertilley4297]

Interesting. I installed mine with 6 gauge as it has an ampacity rating of 65 amps (or 52 amps continuous load). The cable run is only 20 feet. Any reason you went with 4 gauge?

[@gonebyrv9748]

Look at 7:45. I believe that is 6 gauge wire.

[@evdave528]

I think #6 was used at 20 inches

[@russrockino-rr0864]

I see several Code violations. Come on Dave! If you don't know what you are doing, hire an Electrician. At least hire an Electrician to consult with you. Thanks, Russ, J Electrician from Oregon.

[@RSwrightMD]

Another flawless installation. Remind me to invite you up when I install mine! It is also nice to see Greg keeps DX Engineering on his favorites. I do the same!

[@brookemiller7230]

Did you drive all the way to Golden, CO just to install the Tesla wall connector?

[@evdave528]

No

[@dannyfought7525]

Dave I have a new Tesla Y long range (340) mile. How many miles can I go on a 10 degree day leaving Salida Colorado going to Crested Butte?

[@evdave528]

Danny, cold air it thicker and range will be less. Slow speed gives you longer range. At 75 mph I can get 235 miles on my performance Y, you should get more. 297 miles at 55. I guess you might get a 15-20% range loss in the winter.

[@ronaldnaeyaert3653]

What is the conduit?

[@chrisday8072]

really bad they only give us 2 screws in the UK

[@evdave528]

Those stainless screws hold fine but be sure to pre drill the correct sized pilot hole

[@nithinsekhar7782]

Can i use 5core 10sqmm wire for From DB to connector?

[@evdave528]

Consult a local electrician

[@beelust4312]

Should have watched this video before I paid to have my wall connector installed. Today Feb 14th, 2023

[@latehappylife]

Dave I just installed my wall connector. I have a problem with the commission. I fallow the instructions but it never asked me to put my wi fi password in. What am I doing wrong!

[@evdave528]

Scan the QR code and set the op address on your browser in the phone ( website from the wall connector) to access settings

[@evdave528]

After a hard power reset the WC can be accessed for I think 5 minutes. Follow the little piece of paper that comes with it

[@gregwatson8246]

‘WiFi’ signal is being used to allow your phone to connect and communicate with wall connector, for settings or “commissioning. It’s not ordinarily being connected to your home network. No need for your home WiFi password. WiFi “signal is also used if you have multiple wall connectors power sharing with each other

[@CarStory]

Did that house have a 200A service?

[@evdave528]

Yes

[@gimmieboy]

How do we hire you two? I'm in the Charlotte area.

[@ihearttesla]

I was wondering the same about EV Dave...

[@gimmieboy]

@@ihearttesla are you in this area too

[@ihearttesla]

@@gimmieboy No, LI/NY area! But seems like EV Dave takes a LOT of road trips!!

[@evdave528]

Tesla has a list of approved installers, about 1000-1200 please cost off wall connector they charge

[@gimmieboy]

@@evdave528 well I know that. I guess it was a question since you are installing lol. But I can get it done.

[@montmuscle1986]

How much do someone charge for one of these jobs?

[@evdave528]

500-900 bucks

[@pinkiepie1656]

Too much. That's why I installed mine myself.

[@jimsummers487]

This guy will burn your house down…… we call this a willful fire code violation

[@NaimBarakat]

Is this by NEC Code?

[@KevinHartman84]

NOPE THHN requires a raceway/conduit

[@sogard2799]

Absolutely not.

[@md929]

Clean install for couple of old farts. ;)

[@Dezmond_Roman]

Fire hazard

[@Pervernoned]

This guy talks too much!