Another TV Brand Shuns QD-OLED & Picks RGB Tandem WOLED as Flagship

Another TV brand has chosen to use the latest-generation 4-stack WOLED panel from LG Display (marketed as "Primary RGB Tandem") as its flagship TV, instead of QD-OLED.
Philips TV announced its new OLED+950 & OLED+910 TVs at a launch event in Barcelona, both equipped with LG Display's 4-stack OLED panel.
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[@highdefnews]

Vincent literally spelled out Sony’s plan in this video. He said he expects the trend of brands abandoning QD-OLED to continue & then said more on this Soon Only Not Yet with the first letter of each word spelling SONY 😂

[@ionlywatch]

0:55

[@gamerss7797]

Meaning?

[@Sansho54]

@@gamerss7797 RIP Sony QD-OLED.

[@highdefnews]

@@gamerss7797 He’s giving a not so subtle hint that Sony is abandoning QD-OLED as well

[@winterbeginstechnmore]

the most interesting thing will be the mixing of panels (if the leak is true). A Bravia 9 Mark 2 with either MiniLED or 4 stack OLED will create chaos.

[@Tomcup]

Thanks Vincent! I'm thankful for all the research you do, it helps me stay easily informed on all the new TV updates in an entertaining way!

[@444chroma]

SOON ONLY NOT YET 👏

[@skywalkerranch]

Awesome, as always, Vincent. Much appreciated.

[@ledooni]

950 in September? That's closer to the release of LG's 2026 models than the 2025 models. At that point you can either get a G5 at a great discounted price or wait for the G6 that might feature HDMI 2.2 and a 240 Hz panel. Philips is way too late with their flagship.

[@ji8651]

Why would you even want HDMI 2.2, only reason I see is the LIP feature. Otherwise how is 4K 120HZ/144HZ not enough for 99% of use cases right now lol

[@geo2160]

​@@ji8651If you're buying a 1500-2000$ TV, you might as well get one with the most futureproof I/O. It doesn't matter much for movies, but it's a considerable perk for gaming.

[@bigbadslimee]

@@ji8651the difference in motion clarity from 144hz to 240hz is night and day

[@JaviXCdr]

I wonder what we’ll see first: 1. LG/Samsung top oled tv with 4 hdmi2.2 2. A Sony/ Panasonic/ Philips top oled with 4 hdmi 2.1

[@LuLove25]

So is Panasonic!

[@CasepbX]

We ever going to see a 42" TWOLED? Would love one as a monitor.

[@IwinMahWay]

Pretty sure it's possible. Ipads do it

[@SaintMecha]

0:16 Samsung also using LG oled technology now?

[@thomasconway95]

The difference in colour saturation at 1:46 is incredible. Big step for W-OLED.

[@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ]

LG G5 OLED has better tandem panels has 165hz and 400 nits full screen , Panasonic and Philips used LG OLED panel with 144 Hz and 350nits full screen !

[@timmcd84]

950 looks 😍😍😍

[@chadwolf3840]

Been waiting for tandem RGB for my next upgrade. Can’t wait for these.

[@guspaz]

Even Samsung doesn't use QD-OLED for all of their OLED TVs. I realize that Samsung Electronics and Samsung Display are different, and that Samsung Display doesn't make all the necessary panel sizes, but the fact that Samsung has a panel lottery between LG and Samsung panels in a single TV model is telling.

[@nimblegoat]

Yeah Samsung want most people to buy other tech , but if go OLED the WOLED as probably more profit and Samsung display can just focus on monitors . Sony paid a lot last , time , so why would you buy a Sony 77" for $1500 more than the S95F - It's not like Samsung processing is sitting still - add in panasonic player for DVD/Bluray upscales if want

[@deeznattz]

As someone who has had both techs in my living room at the same time, you cant convince me to get a w-oled again.

[@tatianaes3354]

@@deeznattznew WOLEDs are much better now, though, hence the increased competition from those panels.

[@deeznattz]

@tatianaes3354 i have the c1 and c3. The s90c qd-oled looked so much better..

[@tatianaes3354]

@@deeznattz previous WOLEDs are way worse, indeed, because the white components washed out colours. But this time they changed the matrix significantly for much better colour gamut.

[@stepheng8779]

Strange way of going about it Philips. 4 sided ambilight a couple of years ago, get me interested, only to drop it last year & I'm out. Now it's back again 🤷 Audio is usually amongst the best, picture excellent, now get in the shops & price it right 👍

[@LuLove25]

And release it earlier! By then, LG G5 will be priced so nicely that you will hardly get the Philips I suppose

[@samh5886]

Any chance they will use mla again in addition to this new 4 layer structure for next year set? And any new development on qd oled end? Or no improvement compared to last year? Which is more resistant to burn in?

[@Deadleaus]

@@samh5886 Yes there is a chance, but: it’s expensive! And when failed QD Oled tech is dying there is no reason for LG to bring the expensive MLA back. QD Oled has burn in problems. WOLED has no burn in problems, but older panels have many dead pixels.

[@TitusTroy2]

more news coming-- Soon Only Not Yet....S-O-N-Y

[@stig954]

I hope this is much better cause I really like qd oled

[@keving5235]

no, its a downgrade. right how nothing touches QD tech, no-one has anywhere near the color quality

[@SagaciousFrank]

​@@keving5235blacks are worse on QD-OLED against both WOLED and the new RGB-OLED.

[@spartan2188]

@@SagaciousFrank That's only in a bright room. In a dim or dark room, you won't see any difference. QD-OLED doesn't have a polarizer, which is why the blacks look higher in a bright room.

[@SagaciousFrank]

@@spartan2188 except for Sony who used a proprietary double heat sink for the A95L, isn't there more potential for burn-in with QD-OLED?

[@spartan2188]

@ There may be, but that's only if you watch the news all the time. I watch various content, so burn in is of no concern to me. Anyway, I haven't seen owners of the A95L complain about burn-in.

[@Bobla212]

Can you please look at the issue of LG update 23.20.56 that is causing problems in older models? Maybe if you mention it, lg would look into a fix. Thank you 😊 And i really miss your hdr testing of games and callibration guides 😢.

[@SLICK8116]

Glad i got the s95d❤

[@eUploads]

Can't wait to see what Sony ends up doing

[@louv4437]

Is the current Sony OLED A95 a 4 stack type OLED??

[@highdefnews]

Vincent literally spelled out Sony’s plan in this video. He said he expects the trend of brands abandoning QD-OLED to continue & then said more on this Soon Only Not Yet with the first letter of each word spelling SONY 😂

[@aznhandles]

@@highdefnewslol good 1!

[@VherrToIs]

Their plan is to give you only 2 hdmi 2.1 ports at 120hz and charge you more for it.

[@danielvilela7139]

Farting

[@chopvvs]

When these new panels will be available in monitors?

[@badpuppy3]

never

[@GFClocked]

​@@badpuppy3what if it becomes available in 30 thousand years.? What then? How can you know it's never? What if its in 9 trillion years? Never is a long time, how can you say with certainty? Explain this to me

[@And-vx6ry]

Monitors maybe by end of year this year few Dell Laptops will have tandem oleds display.

[@Ren32]

@@GFClocked the earth won't survive 9 trillion years.

[@GFClocked]

@Ren32 who said this tech is gonna be invented by humans?

[@prejtu]

Questin. Why do you skip Philips TV in every year ranking for best TV?

[@ayubmaruf3074]

what about qdel at ces? do you plan to make a video of it?

[@momorious]

Disappointing to see they still use the old Pentonic 1000 Chip with only 2 x HDMI 2.1 without HDMI QMS-VRR and "just" 144 Hz VRR when everyone else upgrades their flagships with the newer Pentonic 800 Chip with 4 x HDMI 2.1 and 165 Hz VRR....

[@mateuszptaszynski5377]

Not everyone, only Hisense confirmed the use of Pentonic 800, Philips and Panasonic confirmed the use of older SoCs, TCL and Sony didn't disclose that information yet.

[@Pi22aPino]

This could’ve been the perfect tv for me if they used the 800.

[@jnvivian]

I am guessing that the Pentonic 1000 has a better image processor, and the Pentonic 800 cut down the picture processor in order to make more room for upgrading the 2 HDMI 2.0 ports to 2.1 based on what I found on the marketing web pages for both the Pentonic 1000 and Pentonic 800 SoCs. Choosing the Pentonic 1000 over the Pentonic 800 makes sense for building movie and streaming focused TVs, while choosing the Pentonic 800 makes sense for building gaming focused TVs.

[@koelme]

Pentonic 1000 is good enough when TV brand can bring great firmware with it. Some experts guess that Alpha 11 in G4 is renamed Pentonic 1000. And if you haven't seen three-dimensional image in G4 with enabled AI picture mode then you're mistaken about SOC capabilities.

[@jnvivian]

@@koelme Alpha 11 cannot be a renamed Pentonic 1000 because it has 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 inputs. Pentonic 1000 has 2 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports and 2 HDMI 2.0 ports.

[@twku118]

LG needs trickle down this tech to 42" TV and I will get it as a monitor.

[@haukikannel]

That is why they don`t do it! They want to sell you $3000 32” monitor instead… or 42” crap TV…

[@TonyMontanaMVP]

Can’t decide if I should wait and get 4stack oled tv or qd oled monitor for mix of games and 4k blu ray

[@chriskelly1740]

Is everything from 2:38 to 3:03 suggesting that Rec.709 would look better on an older TV designed to be used with Rec.709 sources than trying to play Rec.709 sources on a newer TV designed for DCI and BT.2020 sources?

[@Sansho54]

Mapping a natively wide gamut display down to Rec. 709 gamut is not a problem for modern displays. Personally, I still prefer the “look” of SDR colors on plasma, but Rec 709 on a QD-OLED is close. The AI adaptive enhancer will simply boost the color saturation without making faces look like tomatoes or carrots.

[@aznhandles]

Philips are the one to watch. Sleeker and Ambilight. I prefer them over LG & Samsung

[@highdefnews]

What are the viewing angles like on the new 4 stack panels compared to MLA OLEDs?

[@karlmalone11]

Won't be as good as MLA, it will be the same as regular WOLED, which is still fine because the viewing angles are extremely good anyways

[@Animal_lives_matter]

​@@karlmalone11 C4 has limited viewing angles, even G4 shifts colours at 30 degrees depending on the panel uniformity that you happen to get. This behaviour is completely ignored in all reviews. The delta of this shifting is easily above 3. One journalist noted the 4 stack looks like MLA off axis and doesn't shift green like the C4.

[@DK-iy1wf]

QD OLED better viewing angles 👌

[@IwinMahWay]

Will be better than mla and qd oled

[@highdefnews]

@@Animal_lives_matter I’ve heard & seen that on non-MLA panels, but not on MLA panels. Have you seen it firsthand? If so, how did differ from a non-MLA panel?

[@sierratangoandras]

Ngl the ambilight system is calling me more and more 👀😄

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

I guess any OLED is better than nOLED

[@stevendavis1135]

Bro , can you please do a video in the lgb4

[@trevhib]

Philips are so late releasing their top tier models we rarely see reviews of their TVs. The 2024 flagship announced in Jan 24 was on the high street in the UK in December, just when people are looking forward to CES 🤦

[@MultiNastyNate]

When do we get RGB tandem WOLED gaming monitors?

[@andrewgraham8561]

Maybe LGs new panel is really cheap to make and has high production capacity. Easy to design for. Panasonic and Phillips may be buying it for those reasons.

[@mahasidha9]

Are you aware that while we celebrate Panasonic return to the US market, it is presently only available as mail order via their own web site or via Amazon? What a bummer! Although I prefer the improvements they have made to their panel regarding cooling, I need to see it in-person before parting with hard earned cash. I was in contact with their sales reps who said they are trying to now to make inroads with brick and mortar retailers. They should have IMHO done that BEFORE entering at CES. What good is all the reviewer hype if it is only a mail order product in the United States?

[@bdudz2704]

Panasonic’s dropping the z85a. Their z95a will be coming in a 77’ but still lugging around that onboard sound bar. Why Panasonic why?

[@carlosr.2027]

I hearing rumors Panasonic trying to make a deal with Costco for in store sales

[@mahasidha9]

@ Do you have any idea if and when this will happen? Thanks

[@bdudz2704]

@@mahasidha9 I hear the z95b will be available early summer 2025 so I’d imagine the discontinuation would happen then with the z85a.

[@mahasidha9]

@ Thanks. My interest is purchasing the set via a brick and mortar store only so we can experience it in-person. Presently that opportunity is not possible. Thanks

[@polishdude001]

I’m excited to see Sonys tandem oled… but qd oled is still superior

[@Deadleaus]

@@polishdude001 QD-Oled was only superior in HDR highlights color volume. And only 5 % of all movies are HDR movies. So what’s the point?

[@SMGJohn]

Big Quantum ain't gonna be pleased with these news

[@Uncle_Titus]

He is a big Clown 😂

[@verttisyrjala2897]

This really doesn't mean anything, Samsung has updated their qd-oled technology for 2025, and it will almost certainly still perform better than the new upcoming woleds.

[@bobblob-s6r]

I can't wait for you guys to get the new 2025 TV's to actually review. You can only rehash the old CES news so many times.

[@dibils]

350nits full screen is so good

[@randomchannel323]

Ipad pro can do 1000 nits full screen but obviously it's a small screen

[@armylrs2391]

Ha ha , no it's not.

[@Faisal-SR]

​@@randomchannel323 No its 480nit

[@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ]

LG G5 OLED has better tandem panels has 165hz and 400 nits full screen , Panasonic and Philips used LG OLED panel with 144 Hz and 350nits full screen .

[@Faisal-SR]

@@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ It's doubtful it will reach 400nit, probably 350 like the rest, the extra 21hz is really nothing If they are close in price, of course Panasonic and Philips are better buys.

[@janzill3854]

QD is a more accurate "color" brilliance vs simple "white" brightness with filters/etc., So the measurement obsession with white-brightness (NITS) misses the color brightness issue. However, seems that 4-layer is much brighter and also produces lower power consumption (the burnin prob with oled) This approach seems to preserve OLED life while good-enough colors?

[@Deadleaus]

QD was never more color accurate!

[@prospero11]

@Deadleaus Look up color volume. Qd-OLED is superior. If you watch LG WOLED very low brightness, maybe similar, but turn up the brightness and the picture washes out. Its a fact they use a white LED ("W"OLED) to brighten the picture.

[@Deadleaus]

@ That’s a lie and you know it. A typical Qd Fangirl lie. The G4 won literally every review over the QD.

[@DrR1pper]

@@prospero11 correct. So better way to phrase it is that QD-OLED is/was more retaining of colour accuracy as the brightness went up but really only applicable for HDR. And now it seems, LG has nearly entirely caught up or is about to within the next 1-2 more generations whilst still using their WOLED.

[@DrR1pper]

Yes. Also the white subpixel has the unintended consequence of reducing burn in furthermore too thanks to reduction in dependence of core RGB sub-pixels for light which means sharing the load across 4 pixels vs 3, means roughly inherent 33% reduction in burn in rate/risk from WOLED versus RGB OLEDS (like QD-OLED). It’s kinda wild that LG got this fortunate benefit against QD-OLED that they totally didn’t realise and was not the reasoning behind why they went with WOLED in the first place. It was purely due to colour filter based RGB OLED being very bad for brightness. Ergo, they came up with the white 4th sub-pixel arrangement for their OLED back in the early years of the last decade. And they’ve perfected that ever since. It’s still has limitations and a purely RGB OLED with no additional white sub-pixel will be the future for LG for sure but there’s no rush/urgency for LG to get there. WOLED is not inhibiting them from competing with technically vastly superior QD-OLED at the market level. So no rush to make the complete ditch of WOLED just yet, but they will do eventually at some point in the future because that white sub-pixel has always just been a temporary solution to a temporary problem of OLED’s being dinner than is ideal but that is quickly and acceleratively turning out to not be the case with the innovatives happening by LG to fix this and technically we have Samsung Display to thank for that because of them bringing QD-OLED to market is what has caused that. Prior to QD-OLED, LG had literally ZERO competition in the OLED tv market for over a decade leading to them resting on the laurels with only say a modest 10% average year on year brightness increase (if even that). But then QD-OLED entered the seem and the average rate of brightness increase of at least LG’s flagship models (but that trickles down to the lower models in the following generations to be fair) has been more like 30-40% now which is a WILD jump in rate of improvement m. So, we really should be extremely grateful to Samsung Display for that and wishing them all the best as competition is what fuels innovation which is great for us the consumers!

[@roccobruno8027]

Now to see what Sony decides. At the end of the day it will depend on wether Samsung or LG will give Sony better pricing.

[@dysnXO]

so it means 350 nits full screen OLED monitors coming this year?

[@haukikannel]

No… oled monitors allways has less nits, they don`t want to replase burned monitors!

[@PhotoGamer]

If you skip Philips again in the TV shootout this year, I will be very disappointed. You have to do everything you can to get at least the OLED910 for comparison.

[@CyberWoogy]

Blame Philips for releasing in so late in the year for consecutive years.

[@mikey7326]

Tough choice no? LG G5, Panasonic Z95B or this Phillips?

[@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ]

LG G5 OLED has better tandem panels has 165hz and 400 nits full screen , Panasonic and Philips used LG OLED panel with 144 Hz and 350nits full screen

[@jdejesus0017]

Will the 4 stack tandem OLED be available on all LG G5 model sizes? Or will it be reserved to specific sizes? I ask because I remember last year not all G4 models were available with MLA. The G4 98” model did not have MLA for example.

[@OpTiCu]

All G5 are tandem oled

[@mateuszptaszynski5377]

Only 55-83

[@exenemy3216]

it's sure hard to persuade regular customers that you need pitch black enviroment for the perfect black that oled is marketed for :)))

[@AP-hn8wd]

If Sony’s 2025 flagship OLED ditches QD-OLED and uses RGB Tandem like the G5 and Panasonic’s flagship, then QD-OLED is pretty much dead with only Samsung holding on.

[@falsehope5529]

Samsung ruined their own market in oled once they started partnering up with LG to release WOLED models and have pick and mix of WOLED and QDOLED S90D models around the world to the average consumer they don’t know the difference and that’s how Samsung operate

[@rahb2096]

@@falsehope5529nope the average person interested in oled is just picking the cheapest oled and that’s the c series and not even the latest version

[@jkairi4]

​@falsehope5529 QD-OLED isn't really affordable for many consumers. That's why WOLED is still around.

[@JohnSmith-ro8hk]

they can make more money selling woled trash, including samsung

[@Deadleaus]

@@JohnSmith-ro8hk You mean QD-Oled trash for sure. 😂

[@Tommy-h8v4h]

They show 4 layers, but no white. Where is the white light located?

[@gururajacharya436]

It's in pixel

[@marcuscole8796]

You may have heard of blue, red and green light combined (like here in the (white) subpixel structure) add up to white light !? The structure shown here creates white light ... and nothing else ... the colors of a pixel later on is coming from color filters on top of the four white subpixels...

[@madpistol]

So just like that, QD-OLED is on the way out? Very interesting...

[@Chuck--]

Since Samsung makes the panel, it could become a Samsung exclusive because no other mfg will want to pay for it.

[@madpistol]

@ I guess Samsung was expecting WOLED to go extinct due to Samsungs aggressive pricing, but the problem is, they had to recover the R&D costs. WOLED has been on the market so long that the R&D costs are iterative at this point.

[@Faisal-SR]

​@@madpistol There is another side of the problem, most consumers do not realize the superiority of QDO, so other companies can get away with releasing inferior products at ridiculous prices. Samsung Electronics refuses to spend on marketing to promote QDO, so you are stuck here.

[@Faisal-SR]

​​@@Chuck-- Let them and their crappy products go to hell Let the fools pay $3000 for crap oled

[@madpistol]

@ by the sound of it, LG has closed the gap with their latest iteration.

[@kennethz3366]

Does this mean LG G5 sub pixel layout is RGB with crispy text quality?

[@haacseee]

funny how LG "suddenly" rapidfires huge new developments in its WOLED technology year after year in the last 3 years since QD OLED hit the market, while in the 10 years before that they pushed out incremental developments (at best..) 🤷‍♂

[@JC-vx9ht]

Mini LED has surpassed OLED in tv sales, i guess they had to try something.

[@JBlakeS23]

Now I know why the C4 looked to have more contrast than the g4…. MLA lifts blacks.

[@Zzzlol94]

I can't wait for Philips to massively overprice these TVs for what they offer in comparison to the competition, as always.

[@techonlystuff99-tw6cm]

I wonder what's the problem with QD-OLED quality control, margins, longevity, no idea. It seems like QD-OLED was hard to get from Samsung because they don't tell you which TV has QD-OLED or WOLED it's why I went with LG G4 I could only get the WOLED with Samsung

[@18matts]

I never would have thought lg would flip the script like this. I thought qdoled was the future... I really want to know how burn in resistant this technology is vs qdoled

[@hanes2]

Will you be at ISE2025 next week

[@mavenaz1975]

I’m sure they will ditch Samsung. LG reportedly offer much better pricing to the OEMs. Not to mention, LG needs to do that to keep OLED front and center as other tech continually threatens OLEDs future.

[@maricallo6143]

Obviously Vincent will have to work more on reviewing Philips TVs, at last

[@Wobble2007]

Philips were the only display producers to offer a full 32-inch JOLED monitor (True OLED with full RGB subpixel emitters) for less than £800, everyone else were selling the same panel for 4 grand or more.

[@brwa5176]

Silly question but if I'm getting a TV that I will likely keep for say 15 years, will an OLED TV last that long?

[@haukikannel]

Maybe… but it will be much dimmer at the last 10 years and even more dimmer the last 5 years. And maybe have some burn in… but it should work… It is organic material, so it has best before day.

[@kiisseli1337]

Nothing will last 15 years. 10 years is a long time already, and I would guess 10 years would be challenging for OLED.

[@brwa5176]

@ good to know. I have a quality LED TV and it has easily lasted 10-15 years without any issues. Looking for my next TV to do the same. Sony Bravia 9 looks promising.

[@bdudz2704]

@@kiisseli1337plasma would like a word. QC for today’s tvs are trash

[@haukionkannel]

⁠ My Panasonic led TV did last 20 years… and still is eorking.

[@Ren32]

the z95b with the rgb tandem oled panel is the real deal. cutie frootie oled is in its last stages and heading towards extinction.

[@3Tekilla3]

2:45 Why philips think that "picture style" represent source (SDR/HDR)? Maybe i don't care about settings and watching hdr content with default SDRish presets....

[@yunodiewtf]

Why don't you upload HDR versions of the comparison videos so those with burn-my-eye displays can see more realistically?

[@And-vx6ry]

✋🏻Why can't they just 7-8 more layers ? Heat ? How many layers can they stack up more ? Next year they'll again add mla then year after another stack without mla .....

[@haukikannel]

The more layers… the more expensive.

[@5urg3x]

What’s wrong with QD OLED? I don’t get it.

[@winterbeginstechnmore]

Expensive to produce because of limited production lines. They focus on monitors because of higher margin.

[@jkairi4]

There is nothing wrong with it, it's just too expensive.

[@Deadleaus]

@@jkairi4 There is so much wrong with it. Lifted colors, heavy burn in problems, not accurate colors, fringing around letters and so on.

[@prospero11]

@Deadleaus Enjoy your washed out WOLED.

[@ThisIsExile91]

Clearly didn't even watch the video or listen

[@Josh-sx7wn]

Apple being the first to show a stacked oled panel on iPad Pro last year and from someone that bought one. I can say it’s the best oled I have ever seen. So bright and hdr content is like no other screen I have ever seen. It beats my oled Sony tv hands down

[@Deadleaus]

OMG the Apple Tandem display has nothing in common with the new LG tandem display. Even if the apple tandem is produced by LG!

[@mateuszptaszynski5377]

Actually Honor was first to market with tandem display.

[@Your_Paramour]

The RGB tandem display is not at all related to this "RGB" tandem display. WOLED and QD-OLED have always been tandem displays, they are just marketing them this way now (probably because of Apple's marketing).

[@kiisseli1337]

I have also seen it and was very impressed by it, and compared to Samsung S9/S10 too it looked next gen

[@Faisal-SR]

review oled 910

[@jitrapornpha5104]

unless the motion beats my Kuro i wil never upgrade but keep chasing more nits LOL

[@BassThrashin]

Love your vids. Off topic question, how accurate are the fps counters on tv/monitors with Vrr enabled?

[@coludonegro]

El problema con el QD-OLED no es su calidad o fiabilidad. Es que samsung no logra fabricar la cantidad suficiente para su propia demanda por lo tanto tampoco para terceros fabricantes.

[@MKR3238]

I still think the Sony A95K/L is the pinnacle of OLED TVs :(

[@paulcanniff4308]

it's not, here's what the judges from the shootout have to say about that: "As for the A95L, it was good and balanced at just about everything but not a standout. Anything it could do, the Samsung or LG matched or beat it. The Sony’s undefeatable auto dimming was annoying and relatively quick to take hold. We’re talking just a couple of minutes. The auto dimming is unacceptable to me and other judges felt similar. Sony needs to address this."

[@SagaciousFrank]

@@paulcanniff4308 which shootout? Because Vincent Teoh of HDTV Test demonstrated that the ABL kicked in much later on the A95L compared to other OLED due to the bespoke double heat sink.

[@paulcanniff4308]

the 2024 HDTVTest shootout. AVSForum has a detailed analysis of the results which is where I obtained this quote.

[@pierrejonssonagren]

Wich Samsung tv should I buy? S95D for $1800 or wait for S95F for $3000?

[@jizzyjake6783]

Both

[@Daniel189HLL]

Neither. It's a Samsung.

[@Deadleaus]

@@pierrejonssonagren No Samsung. Get LG or Panasonic. 👌

[@JonnyGTi180]

I wonder why Vincent has dropped reviewing Philips OLED's? Always rely on his reviews before making a purchase

[@thegeniusfool]

Very engaged monologue…

[@bloomerb4162]

I do not like bright full white screens, like so many games and movies use for transitions. I watch in a dimly lit room with backlight, so I find it uncomfortable.

[@wxman2003]

The end of QD-OLED for TVs. We barely knew ye.

[@Langelmaki]

No kidding huh

[@jungleboy1]

the end for monitors too?

[@falsehope5529]

Nah monitors likely staying

[@randomchannel323]

I couldn't afford it anyways lol

[@badpuppy3]

Bye ye

[@sasquatchcrew]

This guy is a tv gangster

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

We need to see RGB Mini-LED from other brands!

[@vcam-g9h]

Dont be fooled, the best picture quality available for consumers is the QD OLED panel, the only thing above that is micro led and that is out of the reach of most consumers.

[@paulcanniff4308]

doesn't matter if it's the best, if you're forced to use it with a matte screen it's not worth it, it makes the TV look like an office monitor.

[@vcam-g9h]

@@paulcanniff4308 Its much improved for this year no lifted grey blacks when light shines on it.

[@Deadleaus]

@@vcam-g9h That’s utterly bs and shows, that you have no clue what you are talking about. And now you can sense why Philips is switching to WOLED RGB tandem? 😂🥴

[@vcam-g9h]

@Deadleaus You should stop listening to sales pitches and do some research to edcuate yourself. WOLED is based off white light so the brighter it gets the more washed out the colors look. QD OLED use blue, red and green quantum dots so when it gets bright the colors remain bright so it has a more realistic and impactful picture.

[@Sansho54]

@DeadleausYou clearly have no idea what you’re talking about and the more you post, the more laughable you become. How many WOLED reference monitors are there? NONE. While FSI has two QD-OLED reference monitors - XMP310 and XMP550.

[@Wobble2007]

"Primary RGB OLED", anything to get around actually offering proper full RGB subpixel emission OLED, the next gen version will be called "Primary RGB but not really OLED", naughty of them.

[@carlosr.2027]

So it’s not true RGB tandem oled ?

[@byron19800]

Philips always backed up LG's panels, no matter the technology.

[@churblefurbles]

ambilight should definitely be standard.

[@crowntotheundergroud]

But Phillips went with MLA WOLED last year, despite qd-oled mostly being superior. I think it's a little misleading saying that they "chose WOLED over qd-oled." I think it's a little more accurate to say they "chose to continue using WOLED." After all, they may not have even considered using qd-oled in the first place.

[@Deadleaus]

@@crowntotheundergroud In fact, MLA is way better in most terms. QD is only better in HDR Highlight Colors.

[@tomtomkowski7653]

I will keep my LCDs until we get QDEL technology.

[@Ren32]

Philips hasn't sold qd oled tv before, they have only sold woled, so how are they abandoning qd oled when they never adopted it. IOW, this is a clickbait vid

[@rockyyz89]

naming scheme is again pure insanity

[@TheAntifluencer]

4th Gen QD Oled will have a Field day destroying G5, Panasonic and Phillips Tandem Oleds this year. Samsung winning Value Electronics Shootout without breaking a sweat.

[@Deadleaus]

@@TheAntifluencer You QD-Oled Fanboys, who are poisoning the whole internet are really funny people. But you have no clue about what you’re talking about.

[@Sansho54]

@Deadleaus - Oh, you’re back to make more idiotic statements? If QD-OLED couldn’t match the reference monitor due to color inaccuracy, please explain why Vincent’s shootout had the S95D winning best home theater TV, or the VE shootout had wins 1 and 2 as the A95L and S95D. Or why the German shootout had the S95D on top? Post-calibration, QD-OLED matches the BVM-HX310/HX-3110 better than WRGB OLED, due to less metameric failure. You keep embarrassing yourself, fangirl.

[@Deadleaus]

@ In Reality: Vince likes the G4 more than the Samsung S95 and rate the G4 higher. 😂🤡 Shootouts are bs. Tests prove, QD Oled has oversaturated Colors, lifted blacks and burn in problems. The problem with guys like you is, you do not have both tech at home. You can only trash talk. I got the S95C at home and the Panasonic MZ 2000 at the office. The natural picture comes from the Panasonic MLA. Meanwhile the S95C has bad burn in from Kids playing Wii Sports.

[@TheAntifluencer]

@Deadleaus Results are Out, no excuses. Value Electronics Shootout QD OLED takes 1st and 2nd, German Shootout QD OLED won, Vincent gave "Best Home Cinema TV" to S95D despite giving G4 1st place. 🤔😂 Reality is you don't own any QD Oled, you are a LG shill. Nobody owning QD OLED 3rd Gen talks about Burn In since they are now Deuterium based, so it wouldn't naturally occur.

[@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ]

Jealous Samsung fanboy trolling here 😮😮😮

[@derekrowe6890]

Why name them like that? It’s so confusing. The lower numbers are the newer TVs? How stupid.

[@chebrubin]

Much todo about nothing. The consumer retail brands are all run by the same executive bozos. Who jump ship from one retail brand to the next always chasing a new yearly lineup of junk.

[@chebrubin]

Phillips equals EU 🗑 garbage

[@nexushexus4365]

I want this in the US because of Google TV, so I can have another choice over Sony which is the only brand that does OLED with Google TV in the US.

[@Nettechnologist]

Just get a Walmart $40 onn pro, instead of using an underpowered TV version that will stop getting update’s in a few years

[@tuntematon82]

Durability is always an issue with Philips...

[@ptroy72blue]

WTF you said QDOLED was the best 6 months ago! now its RGB-WOLED? When can we have LSD OLED, or PCP OLED +MDNA, or ZOLED THC

[@Jordanfiend361]

Still the best. Just not enough profit in the technology. It’s too expensive to produce

[@haukikannel]

Yeah… better… people just chose by cost!

[@nibelungvalesti]

OLEEED OLEED. Looks the same as OLEDs 10 years ago.

[@guspaz]

I have both right now, and it’s not that big a difference.

[@kiisseli1337]

Maybe we will have HDMI 2.2 TV's next year (PS6 etc. should have it), so better skip this years models. At least 2027 TV's should have it.

[@LuLove25]

Never understood why Philips together with Panasonic launch their TVs so late in the year!!

[@Gaara7809]

What’s the best TV for gaming and movies for 2025. 65inch or bigger, preferably with usb 3.0 😂

[@jonathane5675]

Makes no sense, QD-Oled is the better tech, unless the 4 stack is cheaper to produce.

[@Deadleaus]

QD-Oled never was the better tech my little Fanboy. 😂

[@jonathane5675]

@Deadleaus It's a fact it's better, QD-Oled has better color volume and wider color gamut compared to the outdated WOLED.

[@JFinns]

@Deadleausapparently you never heard of a little tv called the A95L. Yes QD-OLED destroyed W-OLED.

[@Deadleaus]

@@jonathane5675 Yes. But oversaturated unnatural colors. Burn in problems and so on. My little QD Fanboy. 😂

[@Deadleaus]

@@JFinns Muahahaha 😂 The 2 year old Sony was some of the worst tv I tested. With unnatural colors. You are a little bs fanboy?

[@icy1007]

I’ll stick with QD-OLED. It looks better.

[@NotAlwaysWhatYouExpect]

But I thought Sony was ditching OLED

[@cutcorners6005]

their reliability is clearly bad and brands are fed up.