Another weird Dragon Ball Z OVA

[@jasonone8726]

This is the only time in the Z era and onwards that early kid Goku has his round chubby design. Any flashbacks in Z and even Toriyama's drawings around the 90's, he always looks slimmer and looks like Goten.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yeah it's honestly a surprising but welcome approach by Miyahara

[@kennethguill8154]

I wish they had done SUPER in Toriyama's latest style at the time. They went with more of the Z look to keep things similar I guess.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@kennethguill8154 The character designer Tadayoshi Yamamuro said he tried to strike a balance between Toriyamas newer style and the older Z ones but honestly I don't think he achieved either. He also did designs back in Z so its natural that some of that style remained

[@Mattos77]

Krillin not getting a hit in is like the running gag of him hitting his head in every movie fight hes in. 😂

[@forgottenrelics1197]

makes me wonder if Takao Koyama wrote this 👀

[@jasonone8726]

​@@forgottenrelics1197I'm surprised you haven't made a video on the new Daima trailer.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@jasonone8726 considered it, although was in the middle of making this video at the time and personally didn't feel like there was much to point out about Daima that i hadn't said in past breakdowns. i plan to cover it weekly when it drops so i'll be talking about Daima plentyyy in about 4 weeks time

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

​@@forgottenrelics1197give me lots of money and cars and houses and videos and television sets and bottles of 750 Mil whiskey and rum and a free $115,882 racing bike. And I'll give you a free McDonald's happy meal in return. I think that's a once in a lifetime deal.

[@Not_DIO_1]

I recently watched the Cooler movie and it happens like 3 times 😂

[@radicaIized]

0:21 that’s the best “son goku” I’ve ever heard

[@RaineBans]

its like dio sayin jojo

[@seriut]

​@@RaineBans thats what i thought

[@slifer875]

Prime wakamoto was something else.

[@valentds]

canon cell never was mad at goku, that's funny

[@datanotfoundpleasetryagain3559]

Norio Wakamoto the GOAT

[@jruler93]

I definitely remember seeing that bit of adult Goku patting kid Goku on the back, but I never knew where it came from. This is pretty cool though.

[@dripvader69]

When the world needed him most, *ForgottenRelics* comes with a fresh *DB OVA* roast

[@windandfireproductions5358]

I remember when I first got into dragon ball I watched two episodes and then looked up the series on KZbin and randomly found this ova and thought it was funny

[@forgottenrelics1197]

that would've been confusing

[@An_Actual_STooPkid]

3:33 I love how Yamcha is one of the choices for who Jackie Chun is, like "of course, after all it's always Yamcha who defeats himself."

[@merideri]

not the krillin disrespect in the ova phone game too... I love the reanimated scenes in this! it's real nice of you to go over them.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

fr give the bald guy a break

[@ThelronFjord]

The Televikko came out with a few more of these interactive game tape thingies. There's one for Super Mario World, and another one for Sailor Moon.

[@Taima]

Very happy you made this, I love seeing things like this. Maybe you've already done it or someone else has but I just thought of the idea of going through a bunch of DBZ game animated intros to see how those were handled. Ultimate Battle 22 was one of my favorites. I loved the sorta harsh/dark grittiness of it.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks and yeah that intro is filled with a lot of big names, Naotoshi Shida, Masaki Sato, Tadayoshi Yamamuro, Masahiro Shimanuki etc. I can't say for sure if I'll do a breakdown on it if I'm honest. Daima is coming up and there's a lot of other DB related content I've got planned, so if I ever did it would be very far into the future haha

[@Taima]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Ha, fair enough. Really cool to get a reply from you about it though! Also cool to know who was involved in that since my appreciation for it loooong predates my interest in learning about the artists and their styles and such (which I'm still very much relying on creators like you and TotallyNotMark for educating me on)

[@cobie419]

3:49 The best buff roshi transformation scene is for a phone game

[@forgottenrelics1197]

real

[@RexVergstrong]

0:30 I had a pavlovian response to that sound and started crying.

[@MarkARoutt]

Only my wife ever calls. It's on messenger. My daughter said "it's Mommy!" And I looked for the popup.

[@Mr.Scriblzz]

1:46 I liked your analysis on Miyahara, Very Underrated

[@nightlydata2181]

It's cool to get more info on this fun thing lol. The way Cell leaves always cracks me up lol

[@Truekingr6]

Mexicans have these pirates dvds that are like available nationwide and one disc has all the movies including every single ova

[@chrisrockett5897]

Gotta love that side of the fandom fr. They got everything.

[@MaxBraver555]

The orange sunset sky here 7:33 is something you pretty much see on 90s animation or before, aside from its old or not remastered look.

[@dyl_pickle16-mta48]

I bet this OVA would be lots of fun to play back in the day. I really like the music that plays during the quizzes.

[@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688]

I was literally watching the special a few hours ago after seeing your community post on one of the Ganga lol 😂 honestly Shida kind of the only highlight in terms of artwork and animation. The rest is kind of just fine

[@ShoKain]

oh hi subatomic

[@ladylite]

I seriously love this so much you own the most niche part of the BIGGEST ANIME EVER! Thank you so freaking much for

[@TheHaddonfieldRegistry]

Whoa hearing Kiss me Through the Phone was not expected, weird nostalgia

[@notminijer1121]

You're spoiling us with the content lol, keep up the awesome work

[@NoUnboundFreedom]

Your channel is such a treasure. I absolutely LOVE the info about all of the different key animators and drawings and stuff. Awesome content. Keep it up

[@forgottenrelics1197]

cheers man, appreciate the kind words!

[@flipzzilla4556]

I havent commented on this channel for a while, but once again these vids are awesome to listen to while working on MY OWN VIDS!

[@Culturecrack]

Excellent work, indepth info 👏 👍

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you :)

[@SpunkMcKullins]

Hey there! Quick correction: At 4:07 you mentioned buff Roshi. That's actually Jackie Chun, the winner of the 21st tournament! Hope that clears some things up!

[@mechajay3358]

9:39 Cell was all like "Screw you guys I quit! But I'll be back!"

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Reminds me of Cartman: Screw you guys, Im going home.

[@facanadio]

How does a game that is meant to be played in an obscure console looks better than most of the animation in super!

[@neuronoc.7343]

Prep time

[@saintsheepy6682]

Cool to see a review on this OVA as well, and nice, they got their A-list animators here. Miyahara (he should have been doing more corrections than Uchiyama) and Inagami are also two of the best animators as well. 😁 Also LOL 1:20 🤣

[@simochiothereal4382]

“And Gohan wakes him up with a capsule” “WAAAAAAA-“

[@austinmitchell2652]

I'm glad you covered this one, cause I had not heard of it before!

[@Gator159]

I always wondered was there a Dragon Ball z movie that I must have missed when I saw the clip of Goku meeting kid Goku. This video clarifies my ignorance on the matter, it was one of those video games that I haven't played.

[@DamianQualshy]

Thank you for this video. This game is possibly one of the least known OVAs out there, so it's nice to get more insight about it as well as recognition.

[@JoeticJustice]

I didn't realize how much of a Dragon Ball fan I was until you called PtEtSSJ an obscure Dragon Ball OVA. I mean, it is, hell I only played the card game back when I was emulating on android in 2017-2018 and iirc it was in French wit the rest of the SNES titles cuz there still wasn't any English patch I could readily find. But stillllll, damn.

[@zummone]

9:30 Actually, it does confirm the answer (2), thing is the whole Telebikko setup could mute lines from the VHS so you would only hear the success/failure dialogues through the phone, instead of both like you do from VHS rips.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

ahhh that makes more sense. although it still doesn't isn't shown visually? with every section it'll display the correct Number on screen after the player selects the right answer so odd that its left out here. i've never played it personally so is that something that's cut out from the VHS rips online? this answer to the question happens around the 25:33 mark -kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4Gqn3aHg7N1isU

[@zummone]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Personally I think it just isn't shown for dramatic effect, like to make the cut that comes after more impactful -- also because it's the only question that is actually up to pure guessing (both 2 and 3 seem like valid answers, I only know it's 2 because I read it somewhere), which looks like a trend in the Telebikko games (SMW's final question was also a shot in the dark, lol), there is no missing video from the VHS rips. I never played it either but I know the specifics to how it works having seen a playthrough with the real thing (not DBZ tho). Ideally you would route the audio from the VCR to the Telebikko, and then back to the TV/Headphones (otherwise muting wouldn't work), though you can also listen from the phone when a "connection" is made with the characters. The loud buzzing you hear before the questions are all analog signals that the hardware interprets to know stuff like when to enable output from the phone speaker, look for user input, tell which answer is the correct one, and how long it has to mute output and when.

[@ZaneTrain92]

Lord Slug has my favorite animation from any movie.

[@fat-gotenks]

Haven’t heard of this! Thanks for another great video

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank ya, glad you liked it

[@ashharkausar413]

wow, ty for sharing, didn't know this even existed!

[@parat_parara]

Greaaat video about animation production!!

[@villelater2708]

In the Televikko universe Cell is just Uncommonly Strong and Goku is his own pet lol... just imagining them using the time machine everyweek just for kicks

[@mechadeka]

"You guys hit too hard! I'm going home!" - Perfect Cell

[@mostcreativename1]

So I saw the animation for this like 10 years ago and I thought this was a call in episode that they made. But I didn't realize it was a game

[@TreyPDB]

Reanimating your previous animation does sound pretty cool.

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

I love these Dragon Ball Z OVA movies!

[@Medachod]

Looking forward to the day somebody makes this playable on PC. Though the phone recordings are not preserved at this time, the rest of the game can still be done by picking an image with a number on the keyboard, by clicking or a button on the controller. It wouldn't be too hard to make at all.

[@windandfireproductions5358]

"Tsufurian, not tuffle"

[@MADKapo]

4:50 So Dr. Slump started the "aho bird" joke? I've seen it in other anime aswell, first time being on Naruto.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I haven't dived to into it, but it seems to be an old japanese joke, similar to the trope of characters sneezing when someone is talking about them, which is based of an old superstition. Although I have no doubt Slump had a part in popularising it.

[@spaceamundo9655]

I watch this channel when I eat lunch :^)

[@JosephShemelewski]

I remember hearing about this awhile ago cool to learn more about it

[@ScouterVee]

great vid.

[@AlexLOL50000]

Cell's line should've been replaced with something like "Not bad goku, we'll meet again and have a rematch" or something

[@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap]

6:41 i think i speak for everyone when i say i want to see what if porunga was betrayed and trapped in the time chamber

[@jbrfr94]

Numako's drawings are like those dbz fanarts made by middle school students lol

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Cool

[@ChrisRobinson-b4n]

I recommend to doing a breakdown of the extreme butoden introduction animation

[@Valientlink]

Interesting with the Masenkosapo used my Roshi. It reminds me of when he did a Kamehameha with on finger which was around when the Dodonpa was being introduced. It's like, why did he never use that again lol, why didn't anyone. I guess it probably couldn't be as powerful as Dodonpa either way? And certainly not Frieza's beam

[@azimuddin1890]

(0:00) Nostalgic (4:28) Agreed!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

🤝

[@azimuddin1890]

@@forgottenrelics1197 I made a fan art of big mouth Gokou.

[@crestofhonor2349]

I wonder how many more of these strange OVA's there are out there. It's interesting seeing them being reviewed and not have completely limited animation. This one had some nice shots in it as a whole

[@forgottenrelics1197]

quiet a few!

[@samuellacroit5145]

imagine if you don't pickup, goku is teleporting behind you

[@BryanFromYT]

as an Introvert, that Discord incoming call sfx freaked me out 🥶

[@DmDaPDm]

I've never seen this ova, but i've seen that clip of Goku meeting kid Goku lol and everytime i see it, i think its so wholesome haha Its when Goku used to do dumb ish, but it felt innocent

[@ultimaweapon6]

Forgotten relics I was curious what is your opinion on Super Saiyan 4 design I think it's one of the coolest things Dragon Ball has ever done considering that it pulls from their saiyan roots to me it's always felt like what does Saiyans are truly meant to be

[@forgottenrelics1197]

its definitely one of my favourites next to ssj3. the hairstyle is unique and the red fur stands out in a good way. its doesn't feel like something Toriyama would ever design but it's still my favourite thing from GT.

[@ninjafish2789]

3:03 Uchiyama correcting Shida there should have been illegal

[@JDMBOI7]

oh nah 9:54 😭 whyd you have to remind of Berserks tragic character Guts

[@meanzenstw]

thanks i was looking for it with " find phrase " :D

[@KyuubiXX243H98]

this shit was actually hilarious when I first saw it out there on the internet

[@dyl_pickle16-mta48]

8:07 That Frieza looks like a middle schooler drew it.

[@TangyGuest1]

@@dyl_pickle16-mta48 It's actually horrible, I don't understand how he got hired in the first place

[@dyl_pickle16-mta48]

@@TangyGuest1Still better than what I drew back in 3rd grade.

[@ZZtheDark]

4:55, for those not in the know, 'Aho!' in Japanese means 'Idiot'. 2:37, the music is so good. 6:40, true, true! 6:52, though it does remind me a bit of Unicron attacking Cybertron from the classic TF movie. 7:30, HENSHIN!

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Oh??? Another one already 👀👁👁 but I didn't even see the first one I think 😅 well this is a treat.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yep haha

[@windandfireproductions5358]

3:16 I wouldn't have either considered they met trunk through interfering with the past

[@ms.antithesis]

damn, you keep finding even more obscure shit ive never heard of lol

[@forgottenrelics1197]

i try haha

[@Masterge77]

I'm familiar with this weird phone console, Vinesauce Vinny actually watched the video for the Mario phone game some time back.

[@sauravistheascended7161]

The soulja boy bit had me weak asf

[@minicle426]

Sailor Moon had one like this. One of the answers fanously shows Mars wirh a machinegun.

[@jewelsunniheartsfitnessanime]

lol super Saiyan 1 goku knocking cell to the ground to save the day in ova and get told don’t think this is over gives dr.eggman vs sonic vibes

[@DAVETHEGRAVE]

At least the animation is good for a game like this

[@mista414]

Currently have a CVT CRZ and this seems better in every single way. Dont get me wrong, I love my car but still. I plan to keep the Z for a long time, maybe eventually swap a manual or K series in it, this new civic would make an excellent DD instead.

[@seriut]

0:06 gohan you're not allowed to have fent at such an age

[@mikeyjames6900]

Ever watch the old dragon ball z well I watched the whole cartoon series of dragon ball z but can’t you remember Goku of Despair pilgrims Progress from John Bunyan Giant of Despair is Goku Of Despair thank you the first artist knows this is the truth which I write now then and later thank you

[@sonnywoods6846]

I just finished watching DBZ and 1 thing I noticed is that the best artist did not Draw the primary Fights episodes. For instance Keisuke Masunaga who did the famous SSJ2 Goku vs Kid buu episode 279 didn't really draw that many main fights. If he did draw a fight the episode was usually full of filler non fighting filler scenes. Why did they do that? Seems like the episode with a lot of fighting was done by Masayuki Uchiyama He wasn't the worse but he wasn't the best either I loved the way he drew flying scenes. Just wondering why Keisuke Masunaga didn't do more fighting episodes or at least have more fighting in the episode he was in charge of?

[@AlexTheLegend2024]

Hey Man!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

hello

[@CiderVG]

Japan always gets the coolest stuff

[@Thatgamingshow-b1h]

Can you believe I played this.

[@sebastianaltamirano9281]

Cell be sounding like dio

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thats because his VA voiced Dio for some Drama CD

[@HighWoody]

In my opinion I think it’s meant for video games on a what if scenario.

[@mechajay3358]

5:25 Shida's Evolution

[@ImBlackIvy]

I never knew they had a console game 😂

[@crim.1]

on my homepage 45 seconds after upload

[@pokiexplosion]

well we all know that jeki chan is jaki chan sins roshi was in the crowed

[@mikemoss6045]

Anyone can make a video about et 2600.. "oh its the worst game ever, its sooo bad..." and then theres this. "Hey look an obscure telephone video game choose your own adventure type setup."

[@TheCancerMan]

who gave Master Roshi access to a phone designed to talk to children?!

[@pjsniper436]

I really miss the looping animation when fighting. It gives the characters a feeling of endurance and super speed, and makes the impact of blows seem very heavy.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

there was still a lot of looping in Super and in the Dragon Ball Heroes anime so i don't feel like it went anyway tbh

[@pjsniper436]

@forgottenrelics1197 it's there, but it doesn't feel the same as it used to be, that could just be me, but hey, we still get more dragonball so definitely not a complaint, more nitpicking on my end lol.

[@harleyzeth]

That's crazy cause that's my least favorite thing about DB fights. It's extremely difficult to see something like JJK or any other modern anime, and then see the looping animations of DB. It just makes it feel so scammy

[@pjsniper436]

@harleyzeth to me it was great, especially goku and piccolo vs raditz. I loved it XD

[@harleyzeth]

@@pjsniper436 I loved it too, but it's very different when they do it in super, decades later

[@sharperwhisper9752]

This is the closest I’m gonna get to a Naoki Miyahara vid huh XD

[@forgottenrelics1197]

probably haha. lowkey considering it tho after remembering how many classic scenes he animated while making this one.

[@sharperwhisper9752]

@@forgottenrelics1197 please he’s honestly one of my favorites and him and shida are an unstoppable pair in z as well

[@MisterGort]

whats poppingggg 😩

[@Oriana_leung]

2:00 Whao! 2:55 Worst one in Digimon Hunters final episode.

[@servedbot7377]

Master roshi knows the special beam cannon?

[@gundamuser]

Any particular scenes in GT you like? I know the show itself is pretty stiff animation wise but I’m curious. Also cool video. I like learning about obscure DB media

[@forgottenrelics1197]

i really like Naoki Tate and Masahiro Shimanuki's part involving Goten (infected) vs Vegeta. It's incredibly economic in drawing use while still being very dynamic and impactful. i also like the idea of a sort of aerial dogfight involving ki blasts. besides that the Goku vs Ledgic fight by K Production probably comes 2nd. It's been a few years tho since i've done a proper rewatch so there's probably more i'm forgetting 😅

[@gundamuser]

@@forgottenrelics1197 That fight is definitely pretty cool! especially the environment it's set in at night time. It's a shame K Production only worked on that one singular episode with Ledgic and Goku. It really was some amazing animation. I like Naoki Tate's work in SSJ4 Goku vs Eis Shenron (episode 57). Lots of good impact in there.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@gundamuser yeah! that was a cool bit of action

[@Jomeleleo]

i like this one tho

[@Dylan-gu5nm]

Why did yt add this new fading out transition before and after ads

[@yourhomeboy713]

someone who owns the game should cut a full episode of this, splice all the scenes together

[@Made_In_Heaven88]

Do you think Dragon Ball looked better when it was Cel animated and taped on film rather than how it looks now digitally?

[@NarkoHamponTV]

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