Answering Questions About The Alesis Strata Prime

You all left a ton of comments under the review of the Alesis Strata Prime video, so I thought I'd do a quick follow up with extra info and things I've learned.
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[@camilo.venegas]

I appreciate you mentioning all measures in metric

[@gabe_irl]

The clapping cross talk is pretty funny

[@sevet3568]

Ya it is!

[@lanzy4580]

this channel is gold, no unnecessary bs like other drums review channel. When I will eventually buy a drumset I'll use one of the affiliate links, definitely.

[@joechan3130]

Thanks so much for all you have done with your channel. As a newbie to edrums, you have possibly saved me almost a thousand by giving me direction when I was about to stray and purchase some gears that were actually not suitable for my setting. Much love from Hong Kong

[@ITAngel]

Always great to learn about drums from this channel.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

Excellent and thorough video as usual Justin!

[@mnto5879]

really into this kit can’t wait to get one for myself!

[@3L3V3NDRUMS]

Great video man! You got so much more in detail than everybody else! 🤘🤘🤘

[@AdversaryNemesis1124]

You're the BEST and I'm so getting this and the expansion pack! Great second follow up!!

[@boast1570]

Thanks for doing this work and answering our questions!

[@nonyabusiness6084]

About 7-8 months ago I found your channel as I was researching E-Drums to see how the tech has come along & if they are close to acoustic kits yet. I researched for months & ultimately decided upon the Roland TD27KV2. It wasn't the most realistic sounding kit, but the digital Hi-Hat, Ride & Snare sold me on it. As Hi-Hats have always been difficult to simulate & the TD27KV2 seemed to have the best. But when I got the kit & set it up, I just couldn't get over how bad it sounded. It just didn't sound like an acoustic kit. Yes, I tweaked it quite a bit but still didn't like the sound. And I didn't want to have to pump it through a PC/Laptop & VST's for it to sound good. Not when spending $3500 for an E-Kit. Anyhow, I am now SO glad I returned that TD27KV2. This was exactly what I was looking for. Had I only waited a few more months I would have saved myself the hassle of setting up that TD27KV2 only to have to tear the whole thing down, repackage it all & send it back. By the way, I cannot recommend Sweetwater enough. The best customer service I've ever had. Oh, and one thing I learned is that the pads & cymbals being capable of dynamics like Ghost Notes to Rim Shots is FAR more important than having "Digital," "Positional Sensing" pads. So long as the drums can detect & differentiate between light Ghost Notes to hard Rim Shots, that is what matters most. So authentic acoustic sounds absolutely trumps those "Digital," "Positional Sensing" pads & cymbals of the TD27KV2. All the accuracy in the world doesn't help if the samples sound like dirt. This kit sounds incredible. This kit is revolutionary for E-Drums. Finally an E-Kit that gives us authentic VST quality samples as well as drum & cymbal choices from actual real drum & cymbal manufacturers. I hated the generic, lifeless sounds from the Roland TD27KV2. As well as an amazing, intuitive drum module with a 10.1 inch touch screen & a great looking, easy to use UI with every feature, setting & tweak imaginable. This is what I wanted all along, but it just wasn't here quite yet. Now, the sooner they add Blutooth audio so I can jam to music from my phone, the sooner I will be picking this up.

[@protestfilms-2446]

Roland has the obsession with not using samples and I got the same issue with a super expensive piano I bought from them recently. The piano is beautiful, key response is superb but the sound is just so fake and electronic. It has been a while so I can't return it either. Stuck with it sadly.

[@simondrew8641]

Thanks for your brilliant video Justin! A lot of important information covered here. Careful consideration and research is needed to make a decision on this kit. Around $6K Australian is big money to outlay, your thoughts and experiences are truly appreciated. See you in the next chapter of everything Alesis!

[@CozBoogie]

Thanks for the updated. Looking forward to a head to head comparison agaaint EFNote. I'm torn between this rig and the EFNote 5 or 7. Cheers!

[@DerekFrampton]

also FYI, even though I was either THE first or one of the first, I'm back to an Adopted Cousin on Patreon! Sorry it took so long to get back to this status! I'm also wearing the shirt I got from you a few years ago in my Twitch drumming stream. I appreciate everything you've done for the eDrumming community over the years, AND the interactions we've had over the years as well. Blessings, Justin!

[@MapexNJD]

Appreciate this! I almost pulled the trigger on the Surge. Went to my local store and got an open box Strike Pro SE for $2,050. Having a blast so far. Thanks for all the videos on helping me to decide on what kit to get!

[@femali]

I see a lot of mixed reviews on that, but im not ruling out getting one of those myself. Someone did recommend getting the warranty because of the cymbals.

[@steevidrums]

The assignable outs should be achieved by hard panning, So, kick into Main (hard panned left) snare into main (hard panned right) hihat to 3&4 (hard panned left) ride to 3&4 (hard panned right) toms to 6&5 (hard panned left) and crashes to 5&6 (hard panned right) You;d need to monitor it from the FOH desk though as all the panning would be horrible to listen to in headphones from the module. And some ambience to wet it up a little as it would be forced mono. But it should give what Anthony was asking for.

[@femali]

I know I didn't ask, but I appreciate this comment!

[@JayCarter-ds9qp]

I have had no luck assigning instruments to the outputs without the following issues. 1. The signals from 3/4 & 5/6 bleed into the main L/R outputs. 2. Reverb, Effects, and Ambience don’t seem to be available for both the Drum Mix and the 4 assignable outputs. The manual does not explain any of this. There is nothing yet on KZbin. I bought this kit to play live and it looks like there is no way to achieve isolating the kick, snare, Tom’s and cymbals.

[@laubhaufen2849]

That's awful! Is there really no way to separate the channels? As you describe it, it is absolute worthless for Live-Performance...

[@botelucian]

Perhaps killing the ambience and sending dry/clean outs to foh and reaply from there some fx

[@johnfrith7884]

@@JayCarter-ds9qp Have you had any luck in resolving the issue? Thank you

[@laptoples]

Thanks for the update !!! Oddly enough, right before I watched yer video, I just found the 14D digital hi-hats on ebay for $650 so I'm SUPER PSYCHED to FINALLY try them !!! I was hoping you'd do a comparison, and there it was... :-) I don't think anything beats these hi-hats from what I've researched. They're coming from Japan so I'll be at my door waiting every day now !!! Hehehehehehe Late Christmas gift for myself, because Christmas was expensive this last year, and I just got a good chunk of Change come in. Thanks for the video Justin !!! Now all I need is the digital ride and I'm done !!! Have an awesome day ! :-)

[@WillOfWrites]

The assignable output pairs are probably stereo busses. So you could, in fact, sending something to just one of them by panning all the way left or right. (i.e. assign kick drum to 1/2 and pan it fully left (to 1)). I haven't bought mine yet, but I'll test it out when I do.

[@ArgonautDrums]

Good stuff! Before adding a compressor, I'd try fiddling with the dynamics knob under kit editor - I found it strange that it's not under trigger settings, but I guess someone may want different dynamics for different kits.

[@philippes1987]

Hmmm good groove at the beginning of the video 🤟

[@boinknook]

Alesis is NOTORIOUS for crosstalk!!

[@jrbowens]

Best Drumset I’ve owned.

[@eDrummerLife]

which ones did you own? just to understand the comparation

[@bobvanster]

I tried it twice it's pretty cool

[@mlgnews115]

I think then this has confirmed I’ll be buying the expanded addition and I will be one damn happy camper, and buy the pearl demon XR pedals for it

[@RulgertGhostalker]

my dream kit is a converted Tama cocktail Jam Mini kit, one e-hat, and one e-cymbal, 2 x Syncussion SY-1s, and a sample multi pad. ( with enough trigger inputs )

[@vladimirackermann6182]

Good review! Do you also have a video about which 3rd party compatibility does provide a Roland TD-7?

[@DerekFrampton]

THis video was/is awesome. I really don't care (and never have over the past almost couple decades or so?) for BFDs flat and distant sound at all. I prefer Toontrack's realism and depth etc. WISH you could put that in this module replacing the BFD. BUt at that point, you'd just buy a more compatible with more preset Pearl MIMI PRO. For my money, the Pearl Mimic Pro is still my jam. I still don't like SL much more than BFD but at least the module and software is much more powerful and compatible. Thanks Justin as always for the amazing research and vids! Also I've had both strike sets, and the module, and both sets of hats, as well as the DM10 hats too. From what I've seen and heard, These hats included with a Strata Prime seem to be the best of all.

[@Vin-bq5tq]

Did the expanded kit come with the original short crossbar plus the longer one? I can't get a straight answer from Sweetwater. I want to use the original short crossbar, and use the kit with the side snare layout instead of 3 up.

[@66meikou]

Thanks for the extra info. I doubt that Yam cymbals will work as they use a different wiring method hence why they don't work with Rollo.

[@anthonybrothers]

Thank you for answering my question! I'm sad to learn that I won't be able to properly output 6 channels to FOH. That really is a deal breaker for me. We currently run an electric kit that can only do mono/stereo, and from song to song, the drummer's dynamics shift more than I'd like. - Anthony

[@clintonmiller4917]

Simple question, would you buy one to play as your kit. And do you believe it will last.

[@ikeeptime]

This is the vid Ive been waiting for. Thanks Justin. Yet Im still confused about hat compatibility. Love my strike pro hat setup (yea I know). You seem to say it would be compatible with this latest module. Is that true? And all other strike components also? Was hoping to get the module stand alone.down the road.

[@muzomonty6616]

Wondering if you are able to check the backing track feature and to see if it could be used to run tracks on stage. Obviously the tracks would need their own assignable output from the module. Wondering if they are able to be assigned to their own outputs some how. Possibly the headphone out only?

[@danward64]

I just bought 2 Strike SE’s. ABSOLUTELY LOVE BOTH ! One for church & one for me. Is it worth the upgrade?❓🤷🏽‍♂️ (cause I could probably sell both easily) . Thought’s ?

[@thecollectorIMHO]

I've been looking for the full measurement of the complete kit once built. I know that it may vary on how close you set the bars, but I'm wondering the approximate measurements just to see if it will fit my office...

[@scottstewart2194]

I have the Alesis Strata Prime module with a triggered drum kit and lemon cymbals. It works extremely well.

[@Garagedrummer]

Are you using the the lemon hihats as well?

[@Mutts1979]

I wonder if they’ll offer an upgrade for people who have the strike pro SE

[@jesseh0113]

Are there more inputs to add more cymbals to the kit? If so, how many?

[@Zursen]

That crosstalk demonstration is crazy! Noticed it on a few other videos. Easily fixed which is is great, but how does a clap create crosstalk on specific toms and cymbals depending on where and how loud you clap?

[@johnnyripple8972]

How is the feel on these kits? I’ve always been a heavy hitter and one of the things I’ve never liked with electric kit is the ones I’ve played haven’t had a good feel to me. Concerned with having to change how I play physically and then taken things practiced on an electric kit to a standard kit.

[@JoshCurry76]

I just got the Strata Prime kit as well and can't figure out how to change the midi note that gets sent for each pad/trigger. This was simple to do on the Strike Pro, but I can't see a way to do it with this module and it's not mentioned anywhere in the manual either. Have you tried to do that? Did you figure it out?

[@chrisrisley8336]

Any chance you can make a video on how to load sample from GGD or EZ Drummer onto the new prime module? Im new to e-drums and trying to figure it all out lol

[@kingjocky2303]

best yt channel

[@uberlegenvr]

Cool I want one

[@Kevown1984]

Would the Strata Prime be a good option for a studio kit for a small home studio?

[@xDaesongRose]

Hey man quick question. I have the Yamaha DTXpress IV And was wondering if the TD17KV series would have a better module and would sound better? The TD27 is lile 5k here in Canada lol and the TD17 is just a 2500 more or less.

[@Karrrrrrrl]

How do cymbal swells sound? One of my biggest complaints with ekits is that it sounds horrible.

[@chrisdorn6418]

I don't know if you'll have time to answer this but if you do I'd really appreciate it. A BIG question I have is if this is used as along with Superior Drummer and Easy Drummer for the awesome midi sounds you get... Do you get any double hits (example 2 sounds "triggers" for 1 hit) with the Hi hats? That's a big problem I have with the Strik Pro is no matter what I do and no matter who tries to help me from Alesis over the phone, I almost always have extra trigger hits almost 1 out of 3 times on the Hi-Hat.

[@yt1ei2oo9ba8]

Hi Justin, can you mount the module on your right instead? Like the yamaha setup

[@redeyedbuggers]

I wanna know how the Strata Prime module stacks up against the Pearl Mimic Pro??

[@charlesoverly3472]

Does anyone know if it is feasible to transplant the triggers in these pads into acoustic shells? I think there is a lot to like about this kit but the looks and form factor are an issue for me.

[@scottp9425]

Dude Can you Please tell me if l can connect External Speakers to the kit?? So l don't have to use headphones all the time. No one seems to answer this question!!?? Thanks.

[@derekhell666]

can you say add addictive drum libraries to this? I havent seen any videos where people are adding new sounds or kits.

[@tbip2001]

Would love to know how compatible it is with diy center cone pads

[@badjabadjawebaadja]

Please somebody answer me. Which one is better? The VH-14D hithat roland, or the strata prime magnet hithat?

[@craigjames5150]

With only 1 AUX input, how would someone add 3 or more cymbals? I hate being limited to a small amount of cymbals with these modules.

[@Drumsholic]

You should must know that Alesis has some little different wiring to handle 2 & 3 zones far different from Roland and Yamaha pads or cymbals so if you change the wirings of the alternative cymbals or pads they could work naturally good i think!Do you check something like this? Thank you for much detailed video as always!!

[@joeg4707]

Justin, do think Alesis delivers the value they're hoping for with the Strata Prime at this price point?

[@squidskunk]

are the pad inputs splittable ?

[@USAInternetPoliceHQ]

Could anyone confirm if you are able to plug in different brand’s hi hats into this alesis ekit? I asked alesis’s customer service and they gave a complicated answer. I would rather have an ekit hi hat with two rubber cymbals that open and close and don’t move around as much as I play. “Regarding compatibility with other brands, this can be a bit complicated. The cymbals and drums have multiple zones requiring more complicated signals than just on/off messages that some triggers provide to modules. I cannot guaranty any compatibility outside the Alesis brand, but you can always experiment.”

[@lawrencepatrick5760]

The Alesis kits are stepping up their game and sounding alot better for the the price, also nice playing in that intro. 🤘

[@Drumbaseuk]

If you had to choose, what would it be? ROLAND VAD507, as this has come down in price here to almost match the Alesis in the uk. I teach drums and need to upgrade my trusty very old Yamaha DTXtreme 2s. Help!

[@oszkarkeresi5253]

Zourman is good. I am using it with lemon cymbal on my dtx900

[@aaronrio4271]

Currently the expanded set is $300 off on sweetwater so thats definitely a better deal than the 1000 dollar expansion pack.

[@BecomingProductions]

I'll admit when I first seen the launch videos I had a few thoughts of selling my Pearl Mimic to fund this. What can I say, I get carried away with shiny new toys. On reflection I'm fairly certain that would be a big mistake.

[@xgreco]

Reliability is the question here...

[@Gruuvin1]

Exactly. Electronic drums are not gonna feel like the real thing, no matter how much they all wanna lie about it.

[@derekmaynard5619]

I almost had a mimic with the atv kit, the seller changed his mind. So I went with this. In my experience thus feels real close to a real set. Then it sounds way better if your acoustic set isn't miced up. Dynamics are fantastic. I was bummed when the guy changed his mind about the mimic but now I'm thinking it happened for a reason.

[@bernhardhaider2324]

Hi Justin! I'd be curios about If Alesis had any Plans to put out a new Drumset in the "mid priced" Range🤔 They did a new beginner Set and the Strata Prime but nothing in between as far as I know... In the Range of around 900-1400 USD nothing has changed for some Years... Maybe you've heard anything Else?? Thnx, 🥁🥁🥁 PS: Love to watch your Review Videos 👌🏻👌🏻

[@alhuber144]

Can anyone help me with stacking? Looking to stack sounds on the rims. Example: tambourine, wood block, etc.

[@johndef5075]

Nice follow up. Im still interested but it looks like a few kinks to be ironed out.

[@idleprepress]

Looks like most of the limitations are purely software ones and hopefully may be fixed in the future updates. Still a solid choice, I'd say. But anyway, the best Alesis can do with it is to release the module's operating system as open source, provide the hardware specifications, datasheets, SDK and so on. Then the community will pick up the development and it will become the most loved e-drumming platform ever.

[@Epicurus48]

Honestly i dont want anything to do with alesis 😅 but genuinely so glad i found ur channel. First thing i do when im searching for something is see if you made a review on it

[@alanvaughan2937]

Are the Load in Times still slow and if you have effects running are the still the last thing to load in???? ..I had so much go wrong with the Strike pro I could write a book I finally got a good module and then discovered the load in times, that was the straw that broke the camels back the strike could not be used in a live situation where back to back songs with different kits are used .....thank you for all your reviews you are the Bible of E Kits

[@derekmaynard5619]

Ove got the strata and haven't noticed any load in times with the current update.

[@BurningHearts70]

I currently trigger SD3 on my ATOE conversion using a Strike module with good results. Do you think the Strata is a better option?

[@Livingmybestlife82]

I use AD2 with my Strike Pro SE and don't feel the need to downgrade to Strata. Strata is decent if you don't already own VSTs and want a easier setup straight out the box. I still prefer the acoustic look and feel of the Strike pro SE.

[@evyl0076]

i have yet to hear you operate the HH footpedal to 'splash' the hats (no stick on the open/close). Can you do that with the electronic kits you review? Just operate the HH with foot only?

[@listener84]

Or pop into a guitar center

[@harpapmac]

This module is a game changer and what companies should have done at least 5 years ago. This is coming from a Roland fan. I would buy this instead a Roland in a heartbeat. Kudos to Alesis

[@dennischam2590]

How does this kit work with Superior Drummer or other VST? Can you record audio via USB? Its not in the manual so probably not.

[@65Drums]

Yeah every kit works with VST's MIDI is universal in electronic drums. As for USB audio recording, I think it's coming soon but not here as of the current firmware

[@sonofapixelband]

Assuming I'd use the kit strictly with VSTs on my DAW, what e-kit in this price range do you think has the best quality trigger detection? Efnote 3x? Roland TD-27KV2? Alesis Strata Prime? Or are they kind of in the same ballpark?

[@XerazoX]

The 27kv2's digital pads are superior.

[@listener84]

@@XerazoXefnote, i own both.

[@offroadcrazy]

Just out of curiosity does the lemon t950 module have midi in or out since you reviewed it a couple weeks ago?

[@65Drums]

Bro I've already forgot. I did use USB midi on that kit though, so it does have that. Don't remember about 5pin

[@offroadcrazy]

🤣🤣 ok. It's all good. I was just curious because it doesn't look like it does from photos but Dolby drums says it does so I'm not so sure I can trust that. Ya know?

[@moonlights6602]

Hi Im confused which drum kit should I purchase between VAD507 and Alesis Strata Prime Please Suggest

[@skarvid]

Im torn between td27kv2 and the strata prime. Anyone tried both?

[@D-Squared]

I am quite interested to know about the choke function. On the strike pro for example you have to use a decent amount of pressure to choke the symbol. How is the choke function on the prime?

[@derekmaynard5619]

Super easy

[@D-Squared]

@@derekmaynard5619 sweet. Thanks

[@jasonrosario8318]

Is it better to play edrums with nylon head drumsticks or regular drumsticks? Just curious.

[@djashjones]

wood as it's quieter.

[@johndef5075]

Ive noticed that wood tips leave marks on my Roland cymbals. Nylon tips dont.

[@joe08867]

Not being assignable is a big problem. Kind of a deal breaker.

[@JordonBeal]

How would a set of electronic hats get damaged by using another module?

[@65Drums]

I'm just worried because the strata hi hat is getting sent power down the cable. And 3rd party hi hats aren't designed that way. Regardless I don't actually KNOW if it's a real issue, because it does still work

[@jimbo121]

@@65Drums The cable which has the power just isn't connected so it has no opportunity to cause damage. It seems the module is just doing what it should be doing and ignoring the fact that the power source is unplugged. Which is a good thing for people looking to get the module separately.

[@65Drums]

@@jimbo121 The power is sent down the quarter inch controller cable which is connected, not an external power brick. I doubt it's very much current, but enough to power the magnet sensor and light up the LED.

[@jimbo121]

@@65Drums oh I did not know that! Then yeah, I understand the concern now for sure.

[@andrewpollock77]

So when is Roland going to release their answer to the alesis?

[@Ben-ic1ve]

Give them time lol

[@YourBroOreo]

td27kv 2

[@andrewpollock77]

@@Ben-ic1ve hopefully prices of exist go down , make room for new. That’s what I’m waiting for

[@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922]

Do you really think Roland is concerned about the Alesis Strata kit???

[@andrewpollock77]

@@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 I hope. Competition is good.

[@RB-rf8rf]

Hmm so this or td27kv2?

[@djashjones]

Roland if you want a drum kit now or wait a year to see what the Alesis build quality is like and other issues that will arise.

[@paddioche]

Your playing has reely come on, kudos, its harder to be good on an e kit

[@llih0074]

Question: I built a Mike Portnoy style drum kit: kzbin.infoUgkxfU0cs0SVQcwVqrXEliYEK1sxiDijs8pb For the extra pads and cymbals, I used MIDI cable to connect a TD-20 module to a TD-30 module. All sounds were generated by the TD-30. I noticed that this Alesis Strata Prime module also has MIDI In, can it receive MIDI signals from other module and assign sounds to them? I really love the sound of this Alesis kit! Thank you!

[@Jellybeantiger]

I saw this kit in a store and the rack provides a wide footprint so not very good for a small stage.

[@unluckykeys]

WHY'S IT GOTTA BE SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE

[@ericstearns170]

Compared to other companies, this is quite reasonable. This is Alesis putting out a pro-level kit. Compare that to Roland, you'd be shelling out 6-7,000 for compatible sizes, numbers and module. I think the Strike Multipad was really the first shot fired in Alesis being looked at as a real competitor in the professional, semi professional market. Allowing gigging drummers the ability to have power without paying through the nose for it. I was looking at a Roland Multi when the Strike was released, I changed my mind have nothing but awesome put of it. And until Roland updated to the latest version, I had more options. Now I just have a less expensive version.

[@brandoncrenshaw]

Is it me or does the sounds come off very dry?

[@derekmaynard5619]

It can be very ambient and plenty of reverb. There is honestly so many effects, I haven't even changed the ones that come on the kits installed. There is a dial to increase amb and reverb and many other options to blend to music or sound like your in a concert hall!

[@mattiusg]

Why are your reviews the only ones devoid of the brown nosing and BS? Very good follow up.

[@pwrupexodus1582]

First 👀

[@UtwoBed]

Not really so advanced. 😒They did not provide for simultaneous multitrack recording of the individual drum channels. This is a big let down. The only way to mutitrack is through the use of MIDI and then assign samples, but you can do that with any module so this is not at all unique. I'll stick with my Roland set.

[@Gruuvin1]

Electronic drums are not gonna feel like the real thing, no matter how much they all wanna lie about it.

[@moogman5]

Screw it...I'm gonna just get an acoustic kit...E drums are crazy expensive and loaded with never ending problems

[@patrickbear6727]

Please please please figure out what is going on with your audio. Every cut transition cuts off the first one or two words of your sentence. Very annoying and detracts from your well thought out content.

[@dilankarun9172]

His audio & video is fine on my setups. Could be a bandwidth, buffering or audio/video sync issue ? Try going 720p ovr 1080HD on this clip. I've had issues with YT's 8k & 4k content sometimes.

[@patrickbear6727]

@dilankarun9172 I haven't had this problem with any other channel and I have fiber internet with 100mb/s symmetrical so I am confused. The audio drops at every edit point so it seems more likely that it is a 65 drums problem. Happens on my tablet, mac mini M2 pro and roku ultra.

[@derekmaynard5619]

​@@patrickbear6727I'm not noticing it either.

[@jackgoff4859]

Alesis is not worth being a beta tester for when Roland has things that just work.

[@Snickersvr2electricboogaloo]

Hey 65, what would be a good way to find a cheap kit for a conversion? Specifically with 4 toms

[@greatamericanradio5937]

I keep getting a prompt on the module, "ALESIS STRATA PRIME MODULE HAS REVERSED AN INTERNAL ERROR". Wth? I mean, this sucker's brand new out the box. And I also can't find any SFX on this thing anywhere. So far I gotta say -- I much prefer the Strike Pro module as far as "Easy To Figure Out" goes.

[@bucknaked31]

Use the pan control to send to odd/even outputs to get single outs on the buss.

[@flintcrossing]

I have done this but still get everything still coming through the drum mix even when they are assigned to another output and hard panned to the left or right.