Zildjian ALCHEM-E Kit: Next-gen eDrums, Immersion & 400 Years of Sound

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2 ай бұрын

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As Zildjian continues to commemorate 400 years of sonic excellence, the cymbal scion has expanded their domain to transcend time, tone, and territory, debuting their explosive ALCHEM-E kit. Crafted with genuine wood shells and perforated metal cymbals and outfitted with Zildjian’s state-of-the-art Trigger System, the ALCHEM-E kit delivers unrivaled immersion and sonic fidelity. Beating at its heart is Zildjian’s E-Vault sound module that’s populated by multitudes of classic and contemporary cymbals that have been painstakingly captured to ensure every ounce of time-tested Zildjian character is faithfully preserved. To showcase the ALCHEM-E kit, Sweetwater had the pleasure of hosting Russ Miller, a Zildjian artist and studio legend whose CV comprises Andrea Bocelli, Bobby Caldwell, Tina Turner, and Ray Charles, to name a few. Discover Zildjian’s four centuries of percussive panache transposed to the virtually limitless possibilities of eDrums!
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@sweetwater
@sweetwater 2 ай бұрын
Which classic Zildjian cymbals are you excited to try out? Let us know in the comments, and be sure to stop by Sweetwater for a closer look at the Zildjian ALCHEM-E Gold EX 5-piece electronic drum kit 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/Zildjian_ALCHEM-E_Kit
@user-xs6sc7wl6d
@user-xs6sc7wl6d 2 ай бұрын
Um, all of them. However, Zildjian has priced themselves out of reach of working drummers.
@ianmclean5541
@ianmclean5541 2 ай бұрын
The name Alchem-E is brilliant because the original Zildian cymbals came out of the time of the alchemists who were trying to create gold. A man named Zildian was part of that but discovered in the process, how to make an incredibly flexible metal, which eventually became his own gold mine.
@Shane-zo4mg
@Shane-zo4mg 2 ай бұрын
I will give props, the samples don't sound bad. We're really making strides in 2024
@ChontosDrumLessons
@ChontosDrumLessons 2 ай бұрын
Holy smokes! Having Russ Miller demonstrate the kit is unreal.
@erikdanielczyk7666
@erikdanielczyk7666 2 ай бұрын
What a great time to be an electronic drum fan!!
@rnl9520
@rnl9520 2 ай бұрын
You know the world is coming to an end when Zildjian makes an E-Kit
@Ludo_A
@Ludo_A 2 ай бұрын
That's what they said when Pinarello made an Ebike...
@SuperheroJunior
@SuperheroJunior 2 ай бұрын
​@@Ludo_A Jesus is coming soon
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 2 ай бұрын
Zildijan is a business, the aim of a business in a proper capitalist system is to make money, and if they feel that the money is in electronic acoustic sounding drums, that’s what they will put out. (Note: I don’t subscribe to Libertarian and AnCap philosophies, but that is a different matter and story)
@Ludo_A
@Ludo_A 2 ай бұрын
@@SuperheroJunior That will be SuperheroSenior then.
@dylanjastle
@dylanjastle 2 ай бұрын
E drums are cool and a completely separate instrument than acoustic drums, in my opinion
@CornerStoreDrums
@CornerStoreDrums 2 ай бұрын
Oh let’s go!! What an instrument! 🥁
@martinlopez1353
@martinlopez1353 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely Beautiful kit, really Amazing kudos for zildjian!
@timschrieber9741
@timschrieber9741 2 ай бұрын
Talk more about the module interface and drum sounds please!
@eDrumsandVSTs
@eDrumsandVSTs 2 ай бұрын
The industry is getting better and better with edrums..very cool to see.
@glassedgavv9711
@glassedgavv9711 2 ай бұрын
They used "proprietary." I'm sold!
@robertjacob5dmk3
@robertjacob5dmk3 2 ай бұрын
this just made my heart skip a beat....beautiful
@arsonne
@arsonne 2 ай бұрын
I generally can't bring myself to get in on the ground floor of a brand new first-gen product but man this thing is sick.
@vicoemmanuelrocero6141
@vicoemmanuelrocero6141 2 ай бұрын
WOW 🤯
@CHIOTIS1821
@CHIOTIS1821 2 ай бұрын
Very nice looking kit
@giadagiaguaro
@giadagiaguaro 2 ай бұрын
7000 bucks. Not bad for the average working class folks.....
@vaughnmiller4371
@vaughnmiller4371 2 ай бұрын
Really!
@Ian_P
@Ian_P 2 ай бұрын
😮
@_DEADED
@_DEADED 2 ай бұрын
Scam
@RocketBrothersBand
@RocketBrothersBand 2 ай бұрын
@@_DEADED Yeah, it seems really nice, but in a market with so much competition, it certainly not money well spent. Get it under $5000 than maybe... but I'm sure it would have cost that 3 years ago ;)
@Mike-xq8bv
@Mike-xq8bv 2 ай бұрын
😂 too much $ looks nice price crazy I'm sure the bronze kit cost less, easy pass for me not
@flynnsarcade.1982
@flynnsarcade.1982 2 ай бұрын
Sonically, the cymbals are light years ahead of the snare/toms.
@Joshstix95
@Joshstix95 2 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who wants to hear these drums acoustically👀
@purplerain151
@purplerain151 2 ай бұрын
6:54
@Joshstix95
@Joshstix95 2 ай бұрын
bro no. You can put real heads on the kit and play it live. That’s what I meant
@Espresso101
@Espresso101 2 ай бұрын
I thought those cymbals were real till about 2min in. They're incredible
@jerrysgotapewpew
@jerrysgotapewpew 2 ай бұрын
Think about if Zildjian was going to put out an edrum product and the cymbals didnt sound amazing though... That's kind of the point...
@Espresso101
@Espresso101 Ай бұрын
@@jerrysgotapewpew absolutely right, would be ridiculous but we've seen similar things happen before. Mesa Boogie cab clone was not the greatest, Marshall has put out some terrible sounding amps, etc.
@ksnavajo
@ksnavajo 2 ай бұрын
Player 5 has entered the game.
@Chogaar
@Chogaar 2 ай бұрын
were the ride zones mixed in the brain? cause it kept playing edge sound when it should have played bow
@starboom7730
@starboom7730 2 ай бұрын
I noticed that too, and even the bell sound played as the regular ride sound. I'm certain Russ picked up on it too
@jadonchacon
@jadonchacon Ай бұрын
This is the second video I’ve seen that has had that issue, really hope it’s just a simple mishap with the set up because it would be extremely concerning if a $7000 kit didn’t have a functional ride cymbal
@Ripperx121
@Ripperx121 2 ай бұрын
Please make a cymbal pack with a cymbal module and put that up for sale. With front of house outputs and midi.
@chrishansen3740
@chrishansen3740 2 ай бұрын
Wow
@alexyoung5798
@alexyoung5798 2 ай бұрын
The cymbals absolutely dominate the mix here, you can tell Zildjian wants you to focus on that instead of the module drum sounds lol. Cymbals sound excellent though
@jerrysgotapewpew
@jerrysgotapewpew 2 ай бұрын
They should have just sampled their cymbals and made sold that to people.
@gigsmithgoo
@gigsmithgoo Ай бұрын
Now we are talking a decent electronic drums 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
@shadcovert1160
@shadcovert1160 2 ай бұрын
Very cool. For only 1 very specific demographic. Wealthy folks. If inwas One, id surely check it out!
@gwobcke
@gwobcke 2 ай бұрын
Cymbals remind me of previous Gen-16s. Looks interesting.
@aaronrio4271
@aaronrio4271 Ай бұрын
I feel like they would make so much more money if they just sold the cymbals separately. I would buy those in a heartbeat and use it on my alesis.
@mikeydreadmastalski4345
@mikeydreadmastalski4345 2 ай бұрын
I want it.
@JesusRiveraPercusion
@JesusRiveraPercusion 2 ай бұрын
So Zildjian locked the cymbal connection for other brand modules or can you use a dongle or adapter?
@keithwoodcrest
@keithwoodcrest 2 ай бұрын
Good question. Curious about this too. My guess is there won't be an adapter though
@NickyNicest
@NickyNicest 2 ай бұрын
I love my Roland but I want those cymbals
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 2 ай бұрын
I figured right away they’d be a crazy 4 to 5 grand at least but 7,000!!!! Build a hybrid acoustic kit with Drum Tec mesh heads and best triggers you can find and choose a module! 2 to 3,500.
@JorgeParagliding
@JorgeParagliding 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully a module and cymbal pack is forthcoming.
@andyk9623
@andyk9623 2 ай бұрын
Can you buy just the cymbals and triggers? I have a Roland VAD 504 series and I don’t really want to get a whole new kit or module but having real cymbals like this sounds so nice.
@paultowns
@paultowns 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully 65drums has a review on this!
@timschrieber9741
@timschrieber9741 2 ай бұрын
He just posted an explanation video of this stating that a review will follow!
@Book-bz8ns
@Book-bz8ns 2 ай бұрын
That finish looks fantastic, i bet its really cool irl. They sound pretty cool too, ill have to go irl to really judge.
@tylermoore3834
@tylermoore3834 2 ай бұрын
I loved the idea of Gen16's i just never understood the practical application. This seems like Gen16 version 2. Yes, I would love to have a DWe/ZildjianE kit. But only a select few will be able to justify the expense.
@baorozzo
@baorozzo 2 ай бұрын
Actually they made 2 versions of Gen16. Dwe/E vault is a wet dream for a lot of people, I think…
@jamesw.weissii3795
@jamesw.weissii3795 2 ай бұрын
Phat!
@j-drummer9132
@j-drummer9132 2 ай бұрын
Are the cymbals are just L80s with a different stamp on them?
@BMdrumz
@BMdrumz 2 ай бұрын
I honestly don"t understand why the went all the way and made an entire kit. They have an awesome opportunity to make the best E drum cymbals on the market and they choose to do this instead. Realistic responding and appropriate sized cymbals is what the market really needs and I feel like they are on the right track with these. If they just went all the way and made great triggers they could dominate the E-cymbal market.
@LeviWhalen
@LeviWhalen 2 ай бұрын
Especially since it’s pretty common to not expect your traditional kit to include cymbals, it’s not such a stretch to do the same with an e-kit.
@cleire6127
@cleire6127 28 күн бұрын
Impossible to buy in Türkiye... ;( Amazing job tho zildjian 🎉 mad props
@SpaceTiger90
@SpaceTiger90 18 күн бұрын
I like these but can you add on cymbals or toms to it as you would a regular acoustic drum kit?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 9 күн бұрын
Hey, SpaceTiger90. Thanks for your interest. And yes. You can add cymbals and toms. It allows for 4 toms total. For cymbals you get Hi Hat, Ride, and 4 cymbal (Crash/China/Effects) inputs. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@Tannehillin
@Tannehillin Ай бұрын
Are the Tom and snare sounds tunable in the module?
@jesusleyvamusic4937
@jesusleyvamusic4937 2 ай бұрын
Need one for my band 🔥
@jake_stacey
@jake_stacey 2 ай бұрын
Russ, we love you - but who calls the bell of a cymbal the 'crown'?
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer 2 ай бұрын
Old-school jazz players
@jake_stacey
@jake_stacey 2 ай бұрын
@@JustanEdrummer Been playing drums (and jazz) 30+ years and never heard anyone call it that!
@jerrysgotapewpew
@jerrysgotapewpew 2 ай бұрын
@@JustanEdrummer no, no one calls it that.
@JustanEdrummer
@JustanEdrummer 2 ай бұрын
@@jerrysgotapewpew ok you win
@alabdul-mateen3rd
@alabdul-mateen3rd 2 ай бұрын
This is a real game changer. It would make a great studio addition piece
@paulsarodh5460
@paulsarodh5460 2 ай бұрын
Rickin 😍
@DidYouReadEULA
@DidYouReadEULA 2 ай бұрын
No disrespect to Russ, but where in the wide world of sports is Nick D?! Nick has me spoiled!
@DaveMcCall
@DaveMcCall 2 ай бұрын
Nick D is in South America touring with Mr. Big!
@DidYouReadEULA
@DidYouReadEULA 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the heads up! We know he is having a ball, going to search for some videos on here to watch the Maestro in action!
@tbip2001
@tbip2001 2 ай бұрын
Cymbals sound very convincing. Not so sure about that snare triggering though
@TheMeandrummer
@TheMeandrummer 2 ай бұрын
Game changer!
@Faithaven
@Faithaven 2 ай бұрын
This honestly won’t sell.
@ZeCockOfTheWalk
@ZeCockOfTheWalk 2 ай бұрын
disagree. the decent cymbal samples are an absolute gamechanger
@mathy0u
@mathy0u 2 ай бұрын
Why do you think that?
@keithwoodcrest
@keithwoodcrest 2 ай бұрын
People said that about the DW ekits and they're selling out all over the place
@joshonthekit
@joshonthekit 2 ай бұрын
@@mathy0u its 7,000 dollars
@NickyNicest
@NickyNicest 2 ай бұрын
You’d be surprised how many well off dads out there having a mid life crisis and looking for a hobby will buy these.
@itLEAKED
@itLEAKED 2 ай бұрын
Will there be a package available for just the required pieces? That way I can use it on my existing acoustic kit? Rather than buying another set, I do not need...
@davefiano4172
@davefiano4172 2 ай бұрын
What? Not one comment yet on positional sensing lol? I’m shocked. Shocked I say 😅 YES well done on the cymbals! The DWe cymbals have me scratching my head. The module lands nicely between the Mimic and Roland. Uncompressed sounds are the ticket. How good is the HH triggering is key, I’ll wait for the Justin 65 Drums review (also, why 65 drums and not 64? I keep forgetting to ask:) Can the drum sizes etc be modeled like Roland/Pearl? Not my thing but a question. On the downside, I get the different price tiers, but the “hybrid” idea is a no go. This is not well thought out. I get that DW did it because they are DW. Zildjian though? Instead they should make the drum shells just strong enough to properly trigger, and could even be a high quality ABS or whatever, and alternatively cut the price by $1500 or $1000. Most drummers HAVE an acoustic kit btw. Also, you’re going to take 40mins + to convert your kit for a gig, then again when you get it home? AND you still have to have separate cymbals as well. I think the “corporate wonks/Dilberts” want to puff their chest out and go head to head with the other brands that have already executed this (bad) idea. Also, yes, I don’t want the ones without full size shells for my home set-up, but I might use them for gigs. So Yes, to beat a dead horse, the hybrid idea is exactly backward.
@ISpinsir
@ISpinsir 2 ай бұрын
JFC These manufacturers are still hiking prices of their kits like it’s still 2020. Just scored an expanded Strata Prime kit for half this price and couldn’t be happpier.
@raymondmorford4514
@raymondmorford4514 2 ай бұрын
Do they sell them at Wallman?
@johannjohann6523
@johannjohann6523 2 ай бұрын
Pretty cool. But to me, a drumset isn't complete unless I have at least 2 crash cymbals. even if they are "digital or electronic". Just doesn't "feel" right otherwise. Just a thought Zildjian, you are first a cymbal company. Hopefully a 3rd crash is offered as a nice add on to the other drum sets at a decent price.
@waynebaker2452
@waynebaker2452 2 ай бұрын
If you have the low volume cymbals can you just buy the triggers?
@victortesla4198
@victortesla4198 Ай бұрын
You'd need the brain too. It applies the samples to the triggers in a "proprietary" manner....
@robertlucas9867
@robertlucas9867 2 ай бұрын
Price is steep for me but having real cymbals is better. Can we change from stick to mallets without changing settings?
@kosta1605
@kosta1605 2 ай бұрын
very cool kit. Dont see many selling though. Price is a bit too high for just three cymabls. I know newer tech and what not but for the price tag you can get an ekit with so much more to it. Then to expand this kit with more of their "real like" cymbals will probably cost an arm and a leg too. I think they throw in an extra cymbal or floor tom and it helps sell more. Can go grab the efnote pro 707 for a few grand more. Get 8 extra pieces with it and have a monster of a kit right off the bat. I dont think these "new cymbals" are a huge selling point. Does Zildjian have that many loyal fans to spend this kind of cash on such a small kit? Just my opinion, maybe they will sell thousands of these.
@ProLeopardx1
@ProLeopardx1 2 ай бұрын
Can you get the cymbals standalone without the rest of the kit?
@allenmitchell09
@allenmitchell09 2 ай бұрын
They should market the cymbals as an e kit add on. Especially the hi hats.
@ProLeopardx1
@ProLeopardx1 2 ай бұрын
@@allenmitchell09 I agree completely
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@Mahdi_ddA 2 ай бұрын
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@MatthewVlossak
@MatthewVlossak 2 ай бұрын
For $7000 you could also get a USA made kit + cymbals + hardware + new heads and still be under the price tag of these. I respect Zildjian ‘s efforts, but this seems like a niche product in an economy where everyone is struggling.
@hectorsantiagodrums
@hectorsantiagodrums 2 ай бұрын
Has anybody noticed the lag on the cymbals when he’s playing? Nothing better than acoustic kits.
@vorkap
@vorkap Ай бұрын
Pretty depressing to note that not many have (his sales pitch worked like a charm). But it's not the lag, it's the articulations and single hits that you can't even hear or distinguish many times, as it's simply not picking them up, and that seems to be the biggest issue. Just listen to the intro on the hi-hat, literally half of the notes are not there. And he knows this very well so he played as few as possible later on, just brushing over them with the sticks mostly, to get them to produce some general sound.
@bobdadruma
@bobdadruma 2 ай бұрын
Are the drums and cymbals compatible with a Roland TD-27 module?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 2 ай бұрын
Hey, bobdadruma. Thanks for your interest. They aren’t currently compatible with the Roland modules. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@Lemordison92
@Lemordison92 Ай бұрын
I wonder what is going be the answer from roland time to step up their game even more then the thought.
@julianandreaswiggins5756
@julianandreaswiggins5756 2 ай бұрын
I like this Gold EX series already.
@matzelus-maximus9300
@matzelus-maximus9300 2 ай бұрын
Zildjian built E-Drums?!
@alabdul-mateen3rd
@alabdul-mateen3rd 2 ай бұрын
I like this idea 💡 it would make a great studio addition piece
@Altuz
@Altuz Ай бұрын
I played this kit today. Here are my thoughts. The cymbals are AMAZING. Nothing out there like it. The feel is perfect. The drums are top notch as well, on par with the highest of the highest e-kits out there. The hi-hat still sucks. Zildjian, please figure this out I believe in your team. You need to figure out a way to have nothing between the top and bottom hat and still make it functional. The hi-hat is better than any other e-kit on the market, but it still sucks if you're "barking" (name of the technique) the hi-hat.
@toddedrums
@toddedrums 2 ай бұрын
First time I’ve heard someone say crown instead of bell
@senhordaslaranjas9714
@senhordaslaranjas9714 2 ай бұрын
The guy sounds like Rick Beato
@bacbladerunner
@bacbladerunner 2 ай бұрын
Is the 32gb memory expandable?
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 2 ай бұрын
Hey, bacbladerunner. Thanks for your interest. The internal memory is limited to 32gb. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
@christianseaman4692
@christianseaman4692 2 ай бұрын
Electronic drums will always carry the curse of price vs. justification. For comparison, a 4pc shell pack of decent caliber (Tama Starclassic, Gretsch Brooklyn, etc) plus snare drum, four professional level cymbals, three cymbal stands, hi-hat stand, and bass drum pedal...realistically you could be getting close to $7K, and it's easily possible to go beyond that. These sound and look good, but it's hard to justify spending high four figures on an e-kit, and especially on the V1.
@downnorthmusic
@downnorthmusic 2 ай бұрын
But can the hi hat compete with the vh-14
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez 2 ай бұрын
Go Russ!
@MrSupersia
@MrSupersia 2 ай бұрын
So the cymbals are metal not a rubber ?
@Tannehillout
@Tannehillout 25 күн бұрын
Just went to upgrade the firmware and it froze up on me and is sitting there doing nothing. I have a $6000 display piece in my living room now. Not happy. And Zildjian Support is only available until 5 PM Eastern time which means I need to leave work early tomorrow so that I can call them up and deal with this.
@jerrysgotapewpew
@jerrysgotapewpew 2 ай бұрын
2:20 and you'll never have the e drums ever respond the same way again.
@gerardferrara4387
@gerardferrara4387 2 ай бұрын
Crowns = Bells, Kick Drums = Bass Drums
@triple6wolfi
@triple6wolfi 2 ай бұрын
Hmm...i notice he never mentions price once, guess if ya gotta ask it's to much haha
@JayKayEllEmm
@JayKayEllEmm 2 ай бұрын
They never mention the price in these reviews. That’s not super out of line.
@bigfatpaul1759
@bigfatpaul1759 2 ай бұрын
For god's sake, why can't any of these companies just put together a reliable mesh heads/trigger system/low volume e-cymbal package and sell it for sonething approaching an affordable price?
@Tochilin.Alexandr
@Tochilin.Alexandr 2 ай бұрын
Call of Ctulhu! Uli Come On!!!
@Corbrwl
@Corbrwl 2 ай бұрын
Cymbals have the feel of real cymbals and sound good, but kind of defeat the purpose for me of the e-kit, which is it needs to be quiet for in-home practice purposes. If I want real cymbal sounds, I'll play my acoustic kit. And are the drum sounds sampled or engineered? I think I'll stick with my TD20S pads and Pearl Mimic Pro for my e-kit setup.
@HenryGolf-qr8qw
@HenryGolf-qr8qw 2 ай бұрын
I love Zildjian! But this does not fit in the edrum market. I don’t think this will compete with Alesis or DW. Sucks because they have this priced too high.
@davidepentassuglia9234
@davidepentassuglia9234 Ай бұрын
The E drums are perfect to remove the soul out of any drummer
@Hellhunde64
@Hellhunde64 2 ай бұрын
32GB is small considering you could have just put a 1TB ssd in the module.
@ricardomaiapereira7452
@ricardomaiapereira7452 2 ай бұрын
Uallll🎉
@another_aaron
@another_aaron 2 ай бұрын
4:33 I just played one of those new DW electronic kits the store the other day and I just could not get over how awful the cymbals felt AND sounded acoustically. For 15,000 Canadian dollars it's so incomprehensible 😅
@martydibergi5228
@martydibergi5228 2 ай бұрын
If you are in Toronto, can you recommend an Honest salesperson to buy drums for my granddaughter. I have bought a few things from Soul drums. I will spend about 5k for a kit. I know zero about drums. I was a half axed guitarist. Thanks if you can help. PS Larnell was a student of mine when I was a computer teacher. We jammed occasionally after school. He often played piano too!!!! His band teacher told me back then Larnell is The One😊
@alexyoung5798
@alexyoung5798 2 ай бұрын
I put the meinl cymbal mutes on mine and just jacked up the threshold and sensitivity and they’re quieter and it feels better, once you play for awhile you get past the feel but they sound amazing once you mix them, Zildjian’s are better bc..,they’re Zildjian but the module is really mediocre here
@DevenKhanna-sm5mq
@DevenKhanna-sm5mq 2 ай бұрын
@@martydibergi5228 If you are looking to spend 5K on a kit for your granddaughter, I can give you some things to think about before you talk to a sales engineer. PS, I'm from the US, so there may be pricing issues that I am not aware of in Canada. 1) Where the kit will be: I assume you've already done this, but if you haven't, consider the space for the kit. You need to consider living space, neighbors, other occupants, pets, etc. Also, make sure your granddaughter knows the importance of hearing protection (a good friend of mine already has tinnitus). 2) Acoustic or electronic. Having played both, I find that acoustic drums offer a more authentic feel, which is crucial if your granddaughter is considering a drumming career. However, I understand that certain spaces may not be suitable for acoustic drums due to their loudness. There are ways to reduce the sound (slap-on mutes, low-volume cymbals, etc.), but it's important that the kit owner occasionally practices with actual acoustic heads and cymbals to maintain the 'real feel '. 3) Buy a decent-quality drum rug. Many drum equipment uses spikes or spurs to anchor the hardware to the floor. We don't want to damage your granddaughter's home now, and that is how to keep the bass drum from sliding. 4) Budget: If you plan to buy electronic equipment, the 65drums KZbin channel is a great place to start your research. If you have $5K to spend on an acoustic set, and you know for a fact that your granddaughter is passionate about playing the drums, set about 1,000 aside for shells from Tama, Mapex, Pearl, etc. Other costs would include decent hardware: cymbal stands, snare stands, drum thrones (round and flat is the way to go btw,), hi-hat stands, etc. I did not include DW in my list of recommended brands because while DW's premium stuff is definitely reliable, you'll be spending more money than if you were buying the same quality from other brands. And that takes us to the drum pedal. Go with Tama, Gibraltar, Mapex, etc.. Their stuff is priced well. 5) Cymbals (if you're buying acoustic): From my experience, great-quality cymbals usually cost at least $300 each. The ride cymbal and hi-hats will be the most expensive cymbals. If you are willing to get high-end cymbals for your granddaughter, maybe look at cymbal packs for $1,000+ with four cymbals (they might cost even more). If you see a cymbal pack that offers 12 cymbals for only $1,000, I would be skeptical of the cymbal quality. The bulk of the budget for my kit went into purchasing cymbals. All the established cymbal makers make great cymbals. I know there is a lot to unpack here, and I have a feeling I forgot some things. It is a great thing you are thinking about for your granddaughter! Hopefully, this helps. Good luck!
@listener84
@listener84 2 ай бұрын
I can’t stand the DWe. EFNOTE pro all the way. Just feels phenomenal. Played the Zildjian kit today and like it. Definitely a freshman kit but a great freshman kit.
@DevenKhanna-sm5mq
@DevenKhanna-sm5mq 2 ай бұрын
@@martydibergi5228 If you are looking to spend 5K on a kit for your granddaughter, I can give you some things to think about before you talk to a sales engineer. PS, I'm from the US, so there may be pricing issues that I am not aware of in Canada. 1) Where the kit will be: I assume you've already done this, but if you haven't, consider the space for the kit. You need to consider living space, neighbors, other occupants, pets, etc. Also, make sure your granddaughter knows the importance of hearing protection (a good friend of mine already has tinnitus). 2) Acoustic or electronic. Having played both, I find that acoustic drums offer a more authentic feel, which is crucial if your granddaughter is considering a drumming career. However, I understand that certain spaces may not be suitable for acoustic drums due to their loudness. There are ways to reduce the sound (slap-on mutes, low-volume cymbals, etc.), but it's important that the kit owner occasionally practices with actual acoustic heads and cymbals to maintain the 'real feel '. 3) Buy a decent-quality drum rug. Many drum equipment uses spikes or spurs to anchor the hardware to the floor. We don't want to damage your granddaughter's home now, and that is how to keep the bass drum from sliding. 4) Budget: If you plan to buy electronic equipment, the 65drums KZbin channel is a great place to start your research. If you have $5K to spend on an acoustic set, and you know for a fact that your granddaughter is passionate about playing the drums, set about 1,000 aside for shells from Tama, Mapex, Pearl, etc. Other costs would include decent hardware: cymbal stands, snare stands, drum thrones (round and flat is the way to go btw,), hi-hat stands, etc. I did not include DW in my list of recommended brands because while DW's premium stuff is definitely reliable, you'll be spending more money than if you were buying the same quality from other brands. And that takes us to the drum pedal. Go with Tama, Gibraltar, Mapex, etc.. Their stuff is priced well. 5) Cymbals (if you're buying acoustic): From my experience, great-quality cymbals usually cost at least $300 each. The ride cymbal and hi-hats will be the most expensive cymbals. If you are willing to get high-end cymbals for your granddaughter, maybe look at cymbal packs for $1,000+ with four cymbals (they might cost even more). If you see a cymbal pack that offers 12 cymbals for only $1,000, I would be skeptical of the cymbal quality. The bulk of the budget for my kit went into purchasing cymbals. All the established cymbal makers make great cymbals. I know there is a lot to unpack here, and I have a feeling I forgot some things. It is a great thing you are thinking about for your granddaughter! Hopefully, this helps. Good luck!
@robin_miller_music
@robin_miller_music 2 ай бұрын
This, or the DWe???
@PerriStrong-ne2zi
@PerriStrong-ne2zi 2 ай бұрын
Good question. I'm on the fence.
@VitriolGeorge666
@VitriolGeorge666 21 күн бұрын
DWe doesn't have triggered real cymbals
@rachmadsuhartono
@rachmadsuhartono 2 ай бұрын
great tech but it just still sounds like an electronic drums to me
@pmpj218
@pmpj218 2 ай бұрын
Where’s Nick tho
@sunnibird
@sunnibird 29 күн бұрын
Prices on these kits are way high.
@Ian_P
@Ian_P 2 ай бұрын
drums 10% in the mix... CYMBALS 90% IN THE MIX
@Kenwah88
@Kenwah88 2 ай бұрын
The hats were very loud when he was keeping time with them
@mattocaster1065
@mattocaster1065 2 ай бұрын
I thought $7k would’ve sounded a bit better
@goodtimejohnny8972
@goodtimejohnny8972 2 ай бұрын
I'm going to trade in my civic for that.😂
@Anthonymcnamee1
@Anthonymcnamee1 2 ай бұрын
Truly amazing piece of kit. But just more really expensive gear the average working drummer will never be able to afford to buy. Who is buying this stuff ?
@GuidoWilden
@GuidoWilden 2 ай бұрын
Is it me or is specifically this ride cymbal way too hot/sensitive?
@NikkiNexo777
@NikkiNexo777 2 ай бұрын
$7000! Good luck.
@PurpleMusicProductions
@PurpleMusicProductions 2 ай бұрын
I guess for 7k one is paying for 400 years of history. Because of the price tag I wonder who is the target market for this and honestly they do not sound that good or more convincing than a VST.
@bruceperkins2921
@bruceperkins2921 23 күн бұрын
sweetwater has another video out where the drums were machi e gunning horrendously
@edrums
@edrums 2 ай бұрын
Zildjian should know that using the word "real" to differentiate between electronic and acoustic is a trigger for a lot of e-drummers. Know your audience.
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