Anthropologist Debunks the Paleo Diet

[@davidd7940]

What is certain is our ancestors did not eat industrial liquid vegetable oils and large amounts of sugar.

[@Veronica-jm6wn]

Exactly. I haven't watched video yet but my first thought is how can you "debunk " a natural , unprocessed whole food diet? Is basically how everyone ate before mass production and fast food chains when there was practically no obesity and heart disease and much lower cases of cancer, migraines, allergies, to name a few. But without the grains. I didn't realize gluten and beans were the cause of my stomach bloat, allergies and headaches till I went Paleo. So again, how can you "debunk" science -based facts where most if not everyone has same results.

[@rnunezc.4575]

Exactly..

[@josephgreenwald]

Do we didn't eat fruit, and vegetables mostly sugar

[@michellehashish5341]

You are right. They didn't eat dairy either. I'm basing my health journey on the blue zones. The blue zones have been studied in real time with no guessing on what they eat or don't eat. Mainly plant based with very small amounts of meat on special/celebratory occasions. No sugar, no wheat, no dairy. Whole food carbohydrates like potato, sweet potato and rice with lots of veges and salad. This has been very healing for my autoimmune disease.

[@josephgreenwald]

@@michellehashish5341 yeap they eat most of there calories from carbs so eat ulimate fruit, vegetables, and rice calories

[@69birdboy]

We have to be the only animal in nature that doesn't know what we should eat

[@MrC0MPUT3R]

I don't think any animal know's what it _should_ eat, but they all know what they _want_ to eat. Humans are just intelligent enough to over complicate things.

[@69birdboy]

@@MrC0MPUT3R no , many animals have in built systems, complex needs that support whole chains in ecosystems. We seem to fuck up the world by our social structures creating needs beyond a subsistence circle of life type thing. Humans are searching for smthg, some kind of transcendence that other animals font

[@MrC0MPUT3R]

@@69birdboy Cool. Next time my dog eats chocolate I'll just remember that he's got a complex ecological reason for doing so.

[@justabill5780]

The reason for this is that we have become SO diversified in our diet, that there is no single answer. We are an opportunistic species without a specialty.

[@moehio]

@@MrC0MPUT3R You seem to be confusing domestic pets with the millions of other living creatures on Earth that know exactly what to eat/drink in order to survive.

[@bcameo5269]

The reason why some are opposed to this clean way of eating is because they’re all addicts - a subtle (almost unnoticeable for some) addiction to processed food, sugars, fast food, etc. They can’t grasp the idea that healthy food is medicine, and sometimes the things that don’t taste so great are way more beneficial.

[@trekkeruss]

The debate is about what constitutes healthy food, or more specifically, the debate between eating meat and eating plant. Personally, I think a person could likely do well eating either or both, as long as highly processed food is generally avoided.

[@shellderp]

why would bad tasting food be good? your body literally does not want it. stop listening to other people and listen to your body

[@Thegreatesttoneverlive]

​@@shellderpmakes sense. I'm assuming you don't salt or season your meat right?

[@hansvanderwaal4684]

Food is not medicine. Your body doesn't need medicine,but nourishment. Food is food. Only when you eat processed junk you get sick. In analogy => If you have a car, you use the proper fuel for it. Having a mechanic standby because you constantly use the wrong fuels doesn't make sense.

[@hansvanderwaal4684]

​@shellderp As long you take processed junk, that is engineered to fool your body out of the equation

[@lloydchristmas4547]

This lady is wrong. Clearly the paleolithic people hunted their prey using their smart phones and then bragged about how tough they were on the paleonet.

[@alexiswinter7056]

So much evidence using brunch selfies.

[@clayh9973]

oooof

[@sonja4164]

🤣

[@leonardodavinci7425]

LOL

[@sonja4164]

@LIFTING THE VEIL 🤣

[@mayqueenslithers4078]

Length of GI tracts: Humans: 20-30 feet long Lions: 20 or so Wolves: 20 or so Cows: 23-over 40 Stomach PH Humans: 1.5-3.5 Wolves: 1-2 Cows: 5.7-7.3 Our teeth are different because we use tools to kill and cut up prey. Why do so called doctors and professionals ignore this?

[@Preservestlandry]

We're not eating grass. Of course we're not like cows.

[@mayqueenslithers4078]

@@Preservestlandry We aren't designed to eat plants. Period.

[@TheVigilantEye77]

Liberal ideology

[@todd92371]

Comment edited to take into account that everyone is an expert in nutrition. Do the research. Roll the dice and hope for the best. Peace and good health to all.

[@TheVigilantEye77]

@@todd92371 Go get your Pfizer booster ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@traog]

Something else that I suspect was part of the "paleo diet" was periods of starvation.

[@sekarmaltum1695]

fun fact: your diet matters little, if you fast regularly. Even if you only eat McDonald's trash, you would still improve in health, if oyu fast like 2-3 days a week (water only)

[@sekarmaltum1695]

@chris evans in my current financial situaiton, i cant necessarily decide what to eat. THe decision is often "do i eat those cheap sausages OR do i eat this rice that has no minerals?" -For my current situation, regular fasting just makes more sense than whipping myself like a catholic, for every little bit of poison i eat.

[@sekarmaltum1695]

@chris evans thanks, but i dont share this white-shaming culture. After all, the poverty and riches of whatever country, have to do with the machinations or their lack of, by the "elite" individuals AND the local social-political bullcrap going on.

[@petebutler5139]

Starvation then and forced fasting today to mimic the past…🙃

[@michag4337]

you mean "intermittent fasting"? Boy have I got a diet for you...

[@johnchrd]

How did she debunk it exactly? The paleo diet is focused in the modern age, so of course it advocates using our modern foods. Also the paleo diet includes fruits and vegetables. Most of her arguments were just nonsensical, and had no basis in an actual paleo diet. Definitely not a takedown in any way.

[@johnchrd]

blue222blue yes, but she is pretending that paleo adherents believe that they are eating an entirely Paleolithic diet and don’t know about the advancement of vegetables. Of course they know that they aren’t eating ancient vegetables. But their “paleo diet” is based in the modern age, so they use what is available to them now. Nobody on the paleo diet believes that they are eating a literal and exact Paleolithic diet.

[@friedtwizzlerman3295]

@@johnchrd They believe a heavily meat based diet with no grains or legumes was what ancient people ate and she debunked that pretty quickly... did you even watch the video? Also demonstrated there aren't many if any physiological adaptations to eating meat.

[@lilkira5579]

@@friedtwizzlerman3295 How do you know what they believed? Paleo is not anti-carb or anti-vegetable. Paleo mostly focuses on fruits, vegetables, lean meats, nuts and healthy fats. People confuse paleo with keto/carnivore a lot.

[@NOLAGent1]

I'm a Medical Anthropologist and there were good points along with important data points left out here. I would say epigenetics should have been discussed in the beginning. The archeology record does show hunter gatherers were on average taller, had better teeth and much less evidence of infectious disease than agriculturist societies. We also have Neanderthal fossilized poop that shows a diet that was around 90% meat. Humans are definitely evolved to be hunter-gatherer omnivores. Also there is no hyper-masculinity shown in the ads just masculinity and I do like eating a big pile of meat myself but I want my fruits and veggies along with it! The diversity of whole foods is definitely important and our industrialized food production over focus on limited items being concentrated into much of the food that many people are limiting themselves to is producing bad results along with all the environmental constimination from pesticides, pharmaceuticals and other chemicals that are being detected in our water supplies, rivers and oceans.

[@wojciechkowcz5303]

Well said, moderation is the key.

[@heikorudi6105]

"We also have Neanderthal fossilized poop that shows a diet that was around 90% meat.". no it just shows that he eat a lot of meat before pooping. we don't know how often that happend.

[@stachan24]

We never found a cave painting of a salad

[@todd92371]

And we have never seen the cave painting from a cardiologist detailing the countless heart surgeries due to the over consumption of meat.

[@GoodVibesOnly1914]

​@@todd92371 the number one biggest indicator of heart disease is diabetes. Diabetes is not caused by overconsumption of animal fat abd protein...

[@realityisntachoice1483]

There was no debunking here . Only a rant that loops back leaving an open suggestion that paleo and other natural food diets are a better option that what we are mostly offered.

[@estebansteverincon7117]

Or that *actual* paleolithic people didn't eat the present-day versions of farmer foods like yellow bananas, or modern-day broccoli.

[@lukebroadus1816]

She says we don’t really have any adaptations to consuming meat and talks about our digestive tract being so long but fails to mention that our colon and cecum is so much smaller than that of our ape cousins. Also, isn’t it possible that we don’t have teeth like carnivores and claws like carnivores because tools and fire have been used for over a million years?

[@josepht2127]

But we have brains that helped create technology such a methods of cooking, and utensils that make eating meat AND legumes. You cannot eat raw legumes, you cannot necessarily eat raw wheat grains.

[@proverbalizer]

she didn't mention our stomach acid PH either. as low as 1.5. Very useless or even counterproductive when it comes to digesting most plants

[@melissabrock4114]

What's your educational background?

[@lukebroadus1816]

@@melissabrock4114 why does my educational background matter?

[@melissabrock4114]

@@lukebroadus1816 I mean, do you know what you're talking about enough to be arguing against someone who's studied over a decade on this subject? Or did you just watch a few KZbin videos about it?

[@kiljupullo]

What is certain is our ancestors did not eat industrial liquid animal produce and large amounts of industrially grown meat.

[@leavesofchange]

What is industrial liquid animal product?

[@anarchy7741]

@@leavesofchange milk

[@leavesofchange]

@Lucas Schult An interesting point

[@LuciusC]

@@anarchy7741 Found the lizard people

[@Falstaff0809]

Great talk! Bottom line: “Paleo Diet” isn’t science. It’s a marketing strategy.

[@hanssmith8901]

@@robinbreeds9217 no it didn't from farming

[@robinbreeds9217]

@@hanssmith8901 Farming to blame for our shrinking size and brains They discovered that some 10,000 years ago however, size started getting smaller both in stature and in brain size. Within the last 10 years, the average human size has changed to a weight between 154 and 176 pounds and a brain size of 1,350 cubic centimeters. While large size remained static for close to 200,000 years, researchers believe the reduction in stature can be connected to a change from the hunter-gatherer way of life to that of agriculture which began some 9,000 years ago. by Deborah Braconnier phys.org/news/2011-06-farming-blame-size-brains.html

[@kegeshook1734]

The Paleo Diet is certainly far superior to the SAD and as well as some of the other trendy diets. However, it is too restrictive.

[@muddak]

Right.. marketing... Look at that nice apple on her mic stand.. subtle but paid for...

[@robinbreeds9217]

@@kegeshook1734 or GAPs Diet

[@LNYuiko]

She disproves her own point by stating that much of the vegetation we eat was once largely inedible and nutrient deficient.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

🤣 "congratulations, you played yourself"

[@gribbler1695]

And it's still a mistake to eat it.

[@12marcusboy]

So many people don't know that..... it's not taught anywhere in schools or where you would hear it on the casual. So

[@bobrob6629]

'The Ice Ages began 2.4 million years ago and lasted until 11,500 years ago.' AND that means during that long time we must have ate mostly meat with little plants . So much for plant only vegan nonsense .

"advertising is very focused on masculinity, lots of meat" yea, woman eat carots

[@snowsnow4231]

She fails to separate her feminist agenda from nutrition science

[@theoldguy1956]

God told Noah to eat the animals after the flood.

[@primitiveprimate5529]

Im surprised with this comment section. Please re-watch this presentation without your anti-vegan or carnistic bias. I’m reading people being angry about claims she didn’t even make and she is not advocating a vegan diet. Her only point with this presentation is to show that the marketed paleo diet is not paleo and the problem is much more complex. Just because your beliefs are challenged does not mean they are wrong. Go investigate fairly with a mind set of learning instead of trying to prove yourself right. For the love of all that is good listen fairly to what people have to say and stop imposing your inaccurate beliefs on others to feel good about yourselves 🤦🏻

[@seaslob2820]

well said

[@yengsabio5315]

Well, I will only guess that a lot of people came here with their excess baggage of prejudice.

[@davidgmillsatty1900]

When she did not discuss N15 from the get-go, it was hard to take her seriously as an anthropologist. When you look at the studies showing Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens having higher N15 levels than wolves, foxes and hyenas, and even the anthropologists who did the studies don't seem to make the connection that humans were more carnivorous than these canines, it makes you wonder about the curiosity of these scientists. How can you look at these numbers and not draw the obvious conclusion that we humans are first and foremost carnivores?

[@seaslob2820]

@@davidgmillsatty1900 Good point

[@davidgmillsatty1900]

@@seaslob2820 It's like they can't see the forest for the trees.

[@emerson-sheaapril8555]

So I was with her at the beginning, okay archaeological records, measuring isn't accurate and the veg we cultivated are the ones we ate...but then she shows that we couldn't really eat those veg in large quantity and that they where unpalatable. Then she moves on to rediculous claims, true. And the rest kind of went off on a tangent.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

BUT was highly entertaining, no? I did find her comparisons of processed packaged 'paleo' to be clever and amusing. She needs to move off paleo, and back to her scientific research eh?

[@SingingSealRiana]

I feel like people really tend to mix up keto, carnivor and paleo a lot. Like on paleo eating just very greasy and meat heavy . . Some do it, but it is not what it is about. Eating lots of veggies, nutriendense and without isolated carbs like suggar and flours, food addatives as well as avoiding very commen foodsensetivities. The focus on meat is on high quality intead of quality and adding organ meat for their high nutritional value.

[@Richardj410]

Advisory On Moose Liver and Kidney Consumption The Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife and the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention recommend that the liver and kidneys of moose not be eaten because of possible contamination with the heavy metal cadmium. Several states, Canadian provinces and Scandinavian countries have issued similar warnings. While cadmium may accumulate in the liver and kidneys, there is no known health risk from eating the meat of moose or deer. Air pollution from copper and nickel industries and from the burning of fossil fuels accounts for much of the cadmium deposited in eastern North America. Cadmium is ingested by moose with their food. Maine health officials recommend that deer liver consumption be limited to 0.8 pounds in one sitting and 1 to 1 1/3 pounds per week. Human symptoms of acute cadmium poisoning include severe nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, muscle cramps and salivation.

[@throbinho]

I just eat the veg I can grow. So during the winter and spring, that means meat eggs and dairy only. Veg only in it's season. Seems like it's doing me good so far.

[@LawrencePonsford]

I second this. I feel like her understanding of paleo and primal is very superficial, and she just picked the worst parts she could find, that definitely not everybody follows.

[@spacemeter3001]

@@Richardj410 Now do the same research about Husky liver or seal liver. Guess what, eating too much liver could literally kill you. What a surprise.

[@danm8004]

@@spacemeter3001 an oversimplification.

[@Falafelzebub]

The funniest Paleo dessert recipe I've ever seen is for a chocolate raspberry paleo tart.

[@sonja4164]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's so much bs

[@starchivore2317]

Did you find that using paleo wifi?

[@Falafelzebub]

S O N J A It is! Pure marketing hype!

[@Falafelzebub]

Starchivore88 😆

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@starchivore2317 🤣🤣🤣

[@nieczerwony]

"Reprogram your genes. I guarantee, no one can do it for you." What do you mean by that? I cna agree you can't change your genome, but changing gene expression is perfectly valid. There is a whole branch of science who research this and it's called epigenetics.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

And you think Dr. Warinner is naive to epigenetics? I didn't think so. She was being humorous with her statement about reprogramming genes, I thought it was funny anyway!

[@Preservestlandry]

Epigenetics does not change your genes. I guess you have a different definition of reprogram. Because I take reprogram to mean change your DNA. Which isn't a thing.

[@proverbalizer]

that's what I said when she said that. She just dismissed a whole branch of science

[@proverbalizer]

​@@Preservestlandry you can reprogram your computer without changing the CPU or any of the circuitry inside. You can change how it functions. You can't change your genes but various environmental factors including sleep and diet can indeed change how they function

[@nieczerwony]

@@Preservestlandry I never said epigenetics change your genes. But it can and will change your gene expression.

[@zerocontentTV]

“No one has eaten more meat than a Lion”. I think she don’t know who Sv3rige is 😆

[@limitlesslenn7612]

sverige still eats fruit. He does it in a couple of his vids, because even he realises that humans can't live on raw meat.

[@kirill2525]

@Red October and your not a little bitch for talking shit about Lucifer on youtube instead of saying it to his face? XD oh man i love the comments section. Sverige is not a violent guy and you can have a conversation and he will actually act like a decent human being most of the time. at least he doesn't get violent.

[@jackieOAT]

So Sv3ridge is eating between 25 to 43 kg of meat a day? 🤪 This just shows how completely clueless you folks are.

[@80slimshadys]

@@jackieOAT to be fair mate they don't eat every day, when they eat that much they won't eat again for days or weeks

[@doinacampean9132]

@john m - this is a quote from the study you linked: "It is therefore very difficult to estimate which [explanation] accounts for the pattern observed in bulk Neandertal bone collagen.". Very different from your statement. No need for name calling.

[@digdugd]

She debunks an industry trying to make money on the "Paleo Diet".. but confirms the basic concept. I think the "Paleo" name only adds confusion to the discussion.. we should just all call it a "Non-Processed Whole Food" diet.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Wonderful idea of renaming the 'paleo' into a by far less testosterone-laden nomenclature. I'm behind it 100%. Then we needn't associate eating with heavy lifting, and we can avoid the Processed Chocolate Cakes by calling them: Chocolate Cake. Done.

[@melissabrock4114]

I don't think you understand the idea of the "basic concept" of the Paleo diet.the diet's whole premiar to eat "like our paleolithic ancestors" which simply isn't possible.

[@digdugd]

@@melissabrock4114 I don't think you understand the basic concept of the word "like"... as in "as close to as possible".. sure if anyone thinks they can eat EXACTLY the food our paleolithic ancestors ate.. they are out of luck.. but the idea is to move in that direction.. so whole foods.. not processed.. etc etc... when you say you are debunking this diet you are basically saying (to many) there is no benefit in moving that direction.. when your own talk shows there is in fact a benefit.. so if anything you DO like the general idea, but have issues with the name .. which to me is is just throwing out the baby with the bath water. Maybe the title of this video should be "The Paleo diet.. bad name.. good idea". Or even better "What an actual Paleo diet looked like"... or "So, you think you're eating Paleo huh?" . If calling the diet "Neo Paleo" would make both the anthro and modern nutritionist happy, I am all for it ;-)

[@melissabrock4114]

@@digdugd oooh Semantics...my favourite!

[@billygauthier9512]

Isn't high levels of quality vitamin c (as well as other vitamins) found in the liver and other organs of many animals? chriskresser.com/natures-most-potent-superfood/ I'm an Inuit (Eskimo) man and my ancestors almost exclusively ate meat. Vitamin D was found in fish and seal fat. We ate most of our foods (including red meat and fish) raw and somehow managed to survive in the harshest inhabited environments on earth. If we couldn't eat and thrive on raw meat than I couldn't possibly exist. We don't have huge canines because we've never used our teeth for hunting. Our teeth however are very well suited for eating raw fish and meat, I know because I've eaten many wild foods raw and it's not difficult to chew most of them. There are 7.8 billion people on this planet, all who came from ancestry from many different groups from different places. We are not all the same so why would we assume most people should eat the same things. We wouldn't expect polar bears to eat the same as brown bears would we?

[@greenfield1944]

you are absolutely right, I just eat meat as long as iy has lots of fat.

[@leavesofchange]

Fascinating.

[@jjbud3124]

You are so right. Humans evolved in many different environments and adjusted to the foods available. My paleolithic ancestors lived in Europe at a time when the climate was cold and vegetable matter was scarce. If we had not adapted we would not have survived. Now, if we're going to assume humans were ever full vegans we'd have gorilla-like stomachs to hold the amount of intestine needed to digest large amounts of plant matter.

[@greenfield1944]

I have hunted in the MacKenzie Mountains and in the Northern Rockies. If we were dumped in there at any time of the year with no food, any human on earth would want meat rather than eating the weeds or fir and spruce needles. There would no other choices.

[@billygauthier9512]

We are the only animals that are perfectly evolved for throwing spears, sticks and rocks. We have more sweat glands than any other mammal which helps make us perfect distance runners, a trait that only makes sense if we were persistence hunters. The ability to run extremely long distances at moderate speeds is not useful for a herbivore. Humans need to consume fat and protein in order to survive, we don't need to consume carbohydrates. Our bodies can synthesize the carbohydrates we need. Our brains need omega 3 in order to fully develop, which is found in high levels in many animals. It's not very easy to find omega 3 in fruits, vegetables and grains. I could go on and on showing evidence that we evolved to eat meat because we evolved to eat.

[@toddovall2389]

The funny part about this is that as a personal trainer and coach for 12 years, the paleo diet has never failed to produce STUNNING medical results in anyone who gives it a fair shot. The headline is a little damaging to human happiness but I’m sure it grabbed some eyeballs for this relatively unfit looking doc

[@michag4337]

If you go from eating whatever and whenever to a focused diet you will always show positive results. Look at the doctor who ate trash for 10 weeks and lost weight. www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html It doesn't mean it's good for you, it just means that you are at a net loss or neutral for caloric intake so you don't store, which means you lose weight or stay the same. Modern research shows that our link between heart health and red meat is most likely wrong, and it's mostly genetic. I saw a ted talk a few weeks ago from a PhD nutritionist who argued that there is to much variety in people, diet and environment to determine what if anything our diet contributes to health outside of direct cause/effect (if you eat a tide pod you die, if you drink milk and get sick probably lactose intolerance, if you get sick after eating grains could be gluten allergy.) How many of those people who went on the paleo diet simultaneously started working out? Obviously if you start working out you'll get better health. If you've worked as a PT for 12 years you've seen your share of 25 year olds who eat absolute trash, and put in work and look like adonisis. It happens.

[@toddovall2389]

@@michag4337 sure I have seen all sorts of progress among a fairly large cohort of folks. However, you can’t simply explain away or ignore the consistently stellar blood lab results, across-the-board measurable physical performance increases and reversal of diabetes I have personally guided and witnessed. Criticism is a fine thing but I challenge you or anyone to produce a better general food prescription than the quite versatile paleo.

[@michag4337]

@@toddovall2389 Didn't this lady just do that? She's a PhD. Like she's not some rando spouting nonsense. Like respect for what you do, but you aren't a PhD with extensive expertise in human nutrition. As far as a better food prescription, don't go one size fits all for starters? That's pretty good. and Veganism is actually the best diet for heart and diabetes. It's actually been shown to reverse the effects and get the majority of people off of insulin all together, while keeping blood labs in stellar shape. Keto also shows better blood labs for diabetes but has the negative side effect of jacking your LDL through the roof. I have nothing against paleo, I do however have something against people arguing from a place of ignorance the virtue of something when a world class field expert is saying you are wrong. and as I pointed out all of what you said about gains can be explained very easily by diet. Notice how there are virtually 0 pro athletes on palio. Almost all of them are plant based with high protein or full vegan (I am not a vegan, I like steak for the record). Palio is probably less likely the factor in gains, and more so the metric fuck ton of sups people on palio take (as do most gym rats). When I did MMA for about a decade (2007-~2016) I worked out with a lot of body builders, and all of them went on Palio and they all came off because it's a fad diet that didn't show any better results than the previous fad diet they were on. Look into the data (great video from this channel on keto detail a lot of what I'm saying) the best diet for humans that we currently know of is whole food, plant based with moderate protein. The labs are the best for a "one size fits all". Period.

[@toddovall2389]

@@michag4337 feel free to post those “conclusive” results you’re talking about. And…do you even know what you’re arguing against here cuz …wtf…Your last sentence literally described the paleo prescription! Again, anyone, including this PhD, ought to look the part if they are going to pontificate about food. And you should first understand wtf you’re talking about prior to yappin. Go crack some books, son!!

[@toddovall2389]

@@michag4337 rather than embarrassing yourself arguing about things you don’t fully understand, you’d be far better off watching Dr. Sten Ekberg videos. He’s a PhD too so a guy like you is sure to be impressed!

[@ArtemKuchin]

An example about plant eating: using modern hand tools one person can collect 15 KG of blackberries in 10 hours of work. The work is hard. The person will burn about 4000-5000 kcal for the work. Now, to replenish lost energy that person needs to eat 8-9 KG of the berries, which is impossible. Imaging doing the same work by bare hand picking. The nutrient density of ground plants is too low even to bother collecting them. I mean the old ones. The modern fruits are all products of thousands/hundreds of years of selections. Roots could provide starches, but they needed to be cooked to be absorbed. And food cooking came a lot later. Of course, if you are hungry as hell you might as well eat berries and mushrooms. Also, light and small ones spend less energy, so, may be children could collected plants for eating. This is just speculation.

[@naomirankin214]

I don't know where you got the 4000-5000 calories to collect blackberries. My experience of collceting blackberries is that is corresponds closely to sauntering slowly along a forest path - that's for wild berries, not stoop labour on a farm.

[@ArtemKuchin]

@@naomirankin214 then do your calation. You go slow - you collect less. The energy is still not bslanced

[@SlayerBG93]

I find it hilarious any scientist can say with a straight face that we were not primarily on an animal product based diet. None of the fruit and vegetables were anywhere near the calorie density of modern day agriculture and they were found dispersed. The area even a very small tribe would need to search is vast bordering on ridiculous not to mention they had to do it consistently since once an area is cleared it won't regrow anytime soon. Any large animal on the other hand would feed an entire tribe for the day if not days. Did people eat all those things? Sure. Was it the main calorie source of theyr diet? Fuck no.

[@jennjenn7045]

I dont get how some idiots still justify carbs not to cause chronic diseases. I'm referring to excessive refined and processed carbs. Just look at the USDA food pyramid and how the obesity rate significantly increased in the last decades especially in the US. Ridiculous!

[@jjbud3124]

I have the U5b2 genotype. The same as Cheddar Man (caveman) paleolithic era. Didn't his diet consist of seeds and nuts, red deer, aurochs (large wild cattle) along with some freshwater fish. Isn't that a paleo diet? Isn't that what my ancestors survived on for thousands of years? They were hunter/gatherers, not farmers. I've never tried a paleo diet, but I think I'm going to because I just found out I am histamine intolerant and most of the foods I've been eating are causing me great distress. No more tomatoes, spinach, aged cheese, citrus, yogurt, chocolate, wheat, sauerkraut, etc. - all the "healthy" foods I love.

[@mattkeene1188]

How did you find this out? What test you take?

[@jjbud3124]

@@mattkeene1188 If you're talking about the U5b2 genotype (mtDNA), I did genetics testing. My son also did testing with another company that verifies the genotype. If you mean how I found out I'm histamine intolerant, I have a long history of symptoms, plus there was a genetic health assessment for genetic conditions in the genetic testing. I don't know what other genetics testing companies do a health evaluation. I used CriGenetics, my son used 23andMe (They do a health test but I don't know if they test for histamine intolerance). You could call the companies and ask. I hope that helps.

[@moncher2797]

By the way, people didn’t evolve to eat meats. Eating meat evolved us. The fact that our saliva puts ah a jump on ah out digestion is because meat eating increased our brains and um shortened our digestive tract. Um you are a um archeologists but are you a pathologist? I um don’t think I heard that in your list of all you know. By the way, we are omnivores. The level N in the bones indicate we consume carnivores. I watched a video before this where the MD (medical doctor not mouse doctor) took the same facts and made sense of it. Of course if wait l next year, I’m sure your stance will change because that is what science likes to do. Like I say, nobody in the science world can agree. Even when the truth is right in front of you. I was wondering, how do you account for humans bones thinning, losing inches in height after agriculture arose. Clearly, their bodies regressed because of diets. How can you debunk another researchers data. You stand there saying "well his data was only done here or there". I think I know who you’re talking about and he was older and way more wiser. When you are wise, you don’t need to build yourself up by tearing others down. So UM why not worry about your speech and develop some wisdom. Wild lettuce is still an edible. The latex is used for pain relief. I think the reason people suggest bananas, berries and chickens is because it the closest that we can get to Paleo food. Paleo diet means to eat as close a you can to the neolithic period. The big thing is to not eat sugar or bread. The Paleo desserts you see in the grocery store was invented by food vendors. If you were as smart as you try to portray, you would have realized "paleo desserts" were an invention of a 21st greedy person. Okay um uh I’m done. Come back when you grow up.

[@milkandspice1074]

Why do you keep writing "um"..it's hard to read your comment.

[@troyhiscock3984]

Love what you said

[@LilacDaisy2]

I wish I'd waited to watch more before reading the comments. Now all I'm hearing her say is umm and ahh.

[@davidthomson802]

I liked the ums. It sounds more honest.

[@nunulian4758]

How did she “debunk” paleo?? She literally endorsed it.

[@jensboettiger5286]

Just because it isn’t truly paleolithic doesn’t mean meat isn’t an amazing superfood.

[@taramoon9307]

@@jensboettiger5286 LMAO superfood straight into the ER by 50 with ED and heart disease. Early brain degeneration and inflammation.

[@crungefactory]

@@taramoon9307 wrong! Absolutely wrong. I and BILLIONS of others are living proof that you are seriously misinformed. Meat, properly raised, cooked, and consumed is healthy per our tens of thousands of years of proof. Your looking at the wrong thing. Seek knowledge on oils, factory farmed meats, and alcohol, for example if you want to understand ED and heart disease.

[@taramoon9307]

@@crungefactory bro there are 2000 year old Inuit mummies with extensive atherosclerosis of the heart and brain, one as young as 20 .

[@taramoon9307]

@@crungefactory the mechanism that gives you heart disease from farmed flesh is the exact same from hunted animals. High saturated fat and cholesterol, chronic inflammation. The reason people didn't often DIE from heart disease historically is their life expectancy was like 30 years . they died from trauma, infections , diseases etc.

[@ammovette]

so basically, we ate Meats, Vegetables/Grains and Fruit and not pancakes, cupcakes and pound cakes

[@jlmur54]

Agree. Nor chemically treated bacon.

[@jlmur54]

And they only lived until 40, dying from heart and circulatory disease.

[@saradomim]

@@jlmur54 That is false, and the way you get that number is by subtracting childhood death with the average lifespan. (ex. a family has 2 brothers that are born, one dies at birth, the other one lives to 100, average lifetime for them would be 50) Heart disease/circulatory disease is virtually unheard of even in todays untouched tribes that still eat the human diet, aka raw meat. Look up Dr.Weston A Price here on yt ( search for Weston A Price old footage) Keep an open mind and don't shut this information down because you "feel" it's not right.

[@jlmur54]

@@saradomim and the Inuit still die early because of their diet.

[@KurNorock]

@@jlmur54 no. Modern inuit die because of their diet because they are eating modern western foods. As early as the 1870s they were using flour and other gains and sugar in their diets. Previous to that they ate almost exclusively high fat meat and lived long healthy lives.

[@ruimadeira83]

actually what she recommends we eat, at the end, is what most people identify as a paleo diet (a whole foods, natural products, diet).

[@jacobhibbard8038]

Almost true, Paleo advocates could based on this information include whole grains to their diet and still be considered on the “Paleo diet”.

[@Stanb662000]

ya - its more the philosophy , and assumptions behind the paleo diet that are in error. The diet itself is far from unhealthy

[@pinkiepinkster8395]

No what she said was that we are plant and fruit and seed and tuber eaters like other primates. Humans are not omnivores like raccoons or carnivores like cats. Humans are frutarians

[@ts6603]

@@pinkiepinkster8395 very funny comment. if you have any clue about biology you immediatly know the human digestive tract resembles that of a carnivore (looking the same as a cats gut)

[@andreiafscosta]

Also, one thing I want to add and it seems it's something a lot of people don't know is that herbivores like cows (and also primates like gorillas) feed from bacteria protein and fatty acids. They don't get nutrients directly from plants. They eat plants/fiber to feed the bacteria in their gut, and then the bacteria multiples and the fermentation produces fatty acids and that's what they truly eat, a high fat and high protein diet from the bacteria, which is an amazing system very different from ours. And that's why they have big bellies, for fermentation. Humans don't work that way anymore, we have to get it from other animals.

[@truman5838]

We've been hunting/fishing and eating meat for thousands of years. I'm Native American. I know WE have, that's for sure.

[@georgehornsby2075]

Sorry I don't get it, almost every paleolithic human population hunted and or fished for opportunistic calories not just native americans.

[@Goldenhawk583]

@@georgehornsby2075 I think he is saying that he is sure of his own peoples history.. nothing more.

[@sawa1067]

i haven't eaten a plant in a loong time, i feel amazing. meat has all the nutrition needed.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

She is wrong in her conclusion that we require diversity of food sources. Many people are happily improving their health eating only ruminant animals, including myself. Stefannson proved this in 1920 and it has always been the case. We have no requirement for dietary carbohydrate or fiber.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

@Lucifer Iblees Haha he was perfectly healthy and lived longer than average. Where do you vegatards come up with this $hit?

[@secular13]

@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 82 ys old died of a stroke

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

@@secular13 More than 20 years beyond average life expectancy at the time.

[@secular13]

@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 stroke at 82 should be the aim of most of the people then haha

[@MultiSamSami]

n = 1 is not data, one anecdote doesn't prove anything

[@michaelcohen2760]

What wild plants did pre agricultural humans eat in order to provide enough calories to function? Especially during ice ages lasting tens of thousands of years. This talk makes no sense.

[@poultrypickins9572]

Yeah,I did not get past the intro. Her squeaky dry voice and complexion told me exactly where this talk was going to head. We are not vegans,never were,and cannot be in a natural world. Most verieties of fruits and grains are less than 1000 years old. The originals were very small,hard to harvest and less sweet. The people of south america had corn,but it was small and hard.

[@yingyang1008]

One vegan told me that northern Europeans survived off nettles, dandelions and acorns The point is that they aren't interested in truth, just scoring debating points

[@yingyang1008]

@D C feel free to list what plants we ate in the forests of Europe, especially from October till may

[@orlandopaez2593]

I just keep asking myself how does she manage to keep all of that information in her head it’s just amazing to hear her speak. Thankful for this!

[@Noegzit]

Are you kidding? Most of what she said is just vegan propaganda, false statements, wrong interpretations or lies by omission. Im' afraid she was not speaking as an anthropologist but rather as a plant based diet advocate. There are really too many points which are totally wrong or at least very discutable to make a short answer right now. I'll post later a longer answer and it'll take me probably some time.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@Noegzit Well, the why don't you make another video debunking it?

[@Noegzit]

@@johnnyblue4799 That's an excellent idea johnnyblue, but I'm afraid I am probably not enough fluent in English to do this right now.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@Noegzit Do it in your native language and people will use auto-translate.

[@Noegzit]

@@johnnyblue4799 I don't share your optimism regarding automatic translation. Voice translation first requires understanding what the speaker is saying and what they are talking about (the words, the meaning of their statement, the context). It then requires accurately using the correct terms despite the differences that may exist between languages. Let me give you an example. Sometimes I have difficulty understanding everything the speakers say in videos on KZbin. I grasp the main points, but I may struggle with a few words (this largely depends on the speaker's enunciation). Therefore, I often rely on auto-generated subtitles (and definitely not auto-translation) to help me with any words that might escape me. One day, I was watching a video by Rhonda Patrick on metabolism, and she repeatedly pronounced the word "mitochondria." I was very surprised, and I must admit, a little amused, to see that the subtitles for that word were "my dick Andrea"! However, Rhonda Patrick is a woman, and we can easily imagine that in a presentation on mitochondria and metabolism, the chances of her talking about her penis, which she would call Andrea, are relatively low.🤣

[@kathymeyer5974]

Michael Eades says there is a basis in the archeological record. He shows research using stable isotopes, and cites the Cassidy Study (1980 Nutritional Anthropology), and also extensive study of Egyptian mummies and their cardiovascular disease that comes from eating mostly wheat. I would like to see some side-by-side research that compares Warinner's hypothesis with Eades. Seems like you can cherry-pick any research to match your bias.

[@grisflyt]

You posted this a year ago and you have yet not seen the video you replied to?

[@arronmason6692]

For one I'm not sure Egyptian mummies are the best to compare as there was a lot of incest involved which would've severely impacted the health of the mummies when they were alive. So not a good comparison.

[@itzakehrenberg3449]

@@grisflyt Here is some real science on the Paleo diet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5-Yq5eNqsipbKs and kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZfIqHeaiLqGrck It is the second video.

[@grisflyt]

@@itzakehrenberg3449 I'm on keto. I don't eat cereal, vegetable oil, fruit, other than avocado, tomato, olives. I do eat some strawberries when in season with whipped cream. My point is not that I disagree with OP, but that the video isn't about those things.

[@itzakehrenberg3449]

@@grisflyt The second video I linked above does talk about these things though.

[@user-hx3ci3xf9n]

From this video, the point is that there is no one correct diet for everybody. We are in heavy food processing right now,and the paleo diet is a good idea. However, each person has his own uniqueness, so the diet that suits everyone is also different. We should learn how to find the right diet for ourselves.

[@andypcguy1]

If you were a Neolithic person living in what is now London, what plant's exactly would you have consumed? Potatoes came from the new world along with all of the night shades. No Bananas either . Brassica's were cultivated much later. Hunting wild boar, deer, rabbit etc. seems like a more plausible food source, and we would have likely eaten the entire animal, to include breaking open the bones and skulls.

[@Flobb1t]

UK was mostly forests, if you did your research, you'd know there are hundreds of edible wild plants, mycelium and edible trees in the UK. Many plants in the UK that are considered weeds are quite nutritious, and have been around for thousands of years. Living entirely on wild animals would cause rabbit starvation, you'd die from malnutrition.

[@skedi33]

look at the poop of our ancesters. Their fiber intake was around 90 gram and meat has no fiber in it

[@RoxyCherryRozy]

@@skedi33 did you look at it personally?

[@RoxyCherryRozy]

@@Flobb1t those edible bullshit plants come with anti nutrients since its their natural defense mechanism because they can't run. If you think during Northern winters you would of survived berries and bullshit leaves I would of been glad natural selection to have done its job on you. Northern eurooeans egen today are huge dairy consumers.

[@RoxyCherryRozy]

@@Flobb1t Our forests had an abundance of wild animals. I am from Romania and our bear population is oversized even today Lol.

[@philipwakeford6923]

She begins by referring to the paleo diet as a fad, but health professionals having been recommending a low carb diet since before she was born. Before pills were developed to fight diabetes the standard recommendation of doctors was a low carb diet. And many doctors still do prescribe a low carb diet for diabetes and other related conditions. This diet is even used to treat epilepsy. The patients brains rely much more on ketones than glucose for fuel. The whole discussion here is whether or not a high carbohydrate grain based diet is a fad relative to the millions of years preceding. And her very first argument that a lack of ability to synthesize vitamin C is evidence that humans require a predominantly plant based diet is utter nonsense. There are a great number of edible plants that fulfil the recommend daily vitamin C for less than 30 calories of carbs eg many berries, green plants and sweet peppers. Indeed, the Intuits have demonstrated that its possible to get enough vitamin C from the trace amounts in organs alone.

[@libraryofpangea7018]

It is a fad. You can gain positive benifits both from a low carb diet and a whole foods plant based diet that is carb heavy, because the underlying reduction in caloric intake with a shift in macro nutrient intake. Low-carb diets Target blood sugar while low fat diets that are whole foods based Target cholesterol saturation which impacts insulin absorption on the receptor end. Low carb targets input, low-fat targets throughput. The link that's seen between them is a sharp reduction of total caloric intake and oftentimes an increase in exercise aka caloric expenditure. Likewise people on those diets compared to the standard American diet (S.A.D) are intaking less macronutrients while increasing their uptake of mineral nutrients. Which further improves overall health, as minerals are the primary substrate for the endogenous production of biochemical compounds. Both diets also have drawbacks. A Whole foods plant-based diet is harder to implement over a longer period of time and over a broader population both due to supply chain issues and issues with diet adherence for cultural reasons. Low carb diets are easier to implement for more people and more people will stay on them but come with adverse risks including greater risk of heart disease and kidney disease, More recently it's showing exacerbating potential on dementia as well. Just because something was popular for a long time by medical practitioners doesn't mean that they fully understand the science or that the science cannot change with new evidence. Most general practitioners are not operating as scientists they are operating as diagnosticians for their patients and will oftentimes have own personal philosophy on diet due to lack of more comprehensive scientific training on nutrition and diet. With that said most doctors are just happy if you move away from the standard American diet and towards more exercise and higher nutrient quality food. Finally you ignored 99% of what she's shown here which is disingenuous because you already had a pre-disposed opinion and you are not listening very well. I suggest watching the video again but put your biases to the side, look at broader research and not just what confirms what you already think.

[@mattcaruso2520]

Her whole argument is targeted toward one small piece of Paleo. Anyone who knows paleo knows that the magic is in the plant based portion of the gut healing process. did you address leaky gut?

[@presterjohn1697]

Paleo is Atkins revamp with the backing of the meat industry.

[@redragna3648]

Most paleo focuses on meats not on the plants. At least not lately. Tons of paleo guys have jumped on the carnivore bandwagon.

[@josepht2127]

@@redragna3648 I hit like is because I mostly agree. Paleo diet has been grossly misrepresented and although I do not follow it, because I like to ear legumes once or twice a week. I tell people if someone say paleo eats more meat Thant vegetables, to run!

[@SmippeHyrst]

She doesn't know what she's talking about. The paleo diet has nothing to with replicating exactly what certain Paleolithic tribes may have eaten in one particular locale, it's about looking to our evolution (which occurred almost entirely in the paleolithic) for guidance on what is best to eat now from everything that is currently available to us.

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

But the modern paleo diet doesn't mirror an actual paleolithic diet in any way. Are you being sarcastic?

[@SmippeHyrst]

Again, you misconstrue the paleo diet. It's about using human evolution and biology as mere guidance as to what variety of foods might be best now.

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

@@SmippeHyrst Ok... And they have ended up on high meat, no grains... What am I misconstruing? That is what the diet is pretty much defined by. It does not match history in macros or micros or even in types of foods. Our ancestors did eat grains, and many of them didn't eat a lot of meat. You can pretend the paleo diet has no specific guidelines and is earnestly trying to match ancient history, but it is a marketing strategy.

[@SmippeHyrst]

Fundamentally humans are primates. Primate evolution goes back many tens of millions of years, and primates don't eat cereal grains which are essentially just grass seed. Grass is not a part of the primate diet, and it would be highly questionable whether the last 2 million or so years of evolution have been sufficient to equip humans for the job of eating what is normally reserved for the likes of cows etc.

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

@@SmippeHyrst We have been eating grains as long as we have been humans. We have evolved to handle them. We aren't cows. We COOK food.

[@myklm8456]

This speaker confuses the ingredients Paleo people ate, with consumer products with Paleo names.

[@AleisterGrowly]

I lost 50lbs in 5 months on Paleo. Never felt better, slept better or looked better, and still ate well. It changed my life for the better. Once I lost the weight and made Paleo a lifestyle, I added a cheat day on Saturdays. I still drank beer, pop, and exercised little during my 50lb weight loss.

[@SI-ln6tc]

Every diet out there has helped someone's health condition. Vegan, vegetarian, keto, lectin free. .etc

[@squatch545]

How does this "debunk" the Paleo Diet? Flagged for misleading title.

[@johncoey]

Her argument also bolsters the idea that early diets were very animal food centric while she attempts to argue against it.

[@dripshameless5605]

Love seeing how ANYTHING pro-plant triggers the low-carb/keto/carnivore group like crazy. Nice to finally see an actual anthropologist admit the thing we all should know: we are omnivores by design and avoiding highly processed food is likely to help your health

[@aaronjohnston1584]

Kind of like gluten and millennials.

[@dripshameless5605]

@@aaronjohnston1584 Yea I don't get the backlash against gluten unless someone has Celiac's. Lol yup, millennials, boomers, you name it. Gen Z seem to be the only ones who just enjoy life and complain the least

[@Goldenhawk583]

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe, just maybe.. it is bacause plants harm people? Plants can be medicinal, but would you base a diet on eating medicine? A plant based diet demand havey use of supplements. A diet of only meat demands no supplements... could that be a hint?

[@dripshameless5605]

@@Goldenhawk583 Did it ever cross your mind that maybe, just maybe... food is one thing, and drugs are another? Wrong, a plant based diet does NOT demand heavy use of supplements (only one I can think of is B12. And remember, B12 supplements are still needed to feed to livestock, which we then absorb after eating said animal). There is zero scientific data of an only meat diet needing 0 supplements, or being healthy of any kind. As stated in this video, humans have very much evolved to eat omnivorous diets. And eating habits will vary from person to person. I encourage you to get out of your echo chamber because again, there's 0 science to support any only meat diet of any kind. If you want to give into confirmation bias, go for it.

[@Goldenhawk583]

@@dripshameless5605 Science for saying people are carnivores , look into nitrogen isotope studies. B12 is NOT needed to feed livestock.. I really wonder who made this up.. Unless.. the livestock is in a factory farm, and eat mainly corn they cant digest properly.. If anmials needed b12 supplemts all wildlife would be dead a long time ago. The very fact that you can only think of B12, only shows the complete lack of energy spent on looking into it. Here, I will give you a list of stuff you can not get from plants at all, or get far too little of, and hence, need to supplement. 1) Pre-formed Omega-3 Fatty Acids DHA and EPA 2) Vitamin B12 3) Vitamin D3 4) Vitamin A/Retinol 5) Zinc 6) Choline 7) Calcium 8) Iron 9) Iodine 10) Selenium 11) Cholesterol 12) Carnitine 13) Carnosine 14) Glycine 15) Amino Acids 16) Creatine 17) Taurine 18) Vitamin B6/Pyridoxine 19) Vitamin B2/Riboflavin 20) Vitamin B3/Niacin The best supplement, is to toss out the plants and eat meat.. all of this, and averything else you need, is in meat.. no supplements needed at all. In case you still think plants are fine, they dont want to be eaten, here is a list of stuff they give you to avoid being eaten , ( things that prevent you from getting nutrients from plants, and/or posions you slowly.) Lectins Amines Tannins Trypsin Inhibitors FODMAPS Salicylates Oxalates Sulfites, Benzoates, and MSG Non-protein amino acids Glycosides Alkaloids [includes solanine, chaconine] Triterpenes Lignins Saponins Phytic Acid [Also Called Phytate] Gluten Isoflavones

[@Eye_see_all83]

So.... basically she gave the same presentation word for word that she gave six years ago. Nothing new was said which means she hasn’t really done anything research wise.

[@markrobinson6489]

Right, but worse than that, what she said were lies. That's an even more prescient point. She's a lying agenda driven propagandist.

[@BadassBikerOwns]

Why am I reading your comment in a Chris Kresser's voice?

[@markrobinson6489]

@@BadassBikerOwns why do you say such a thing? Did you not laugh yourself at the many lies and omissions? Didn't you laugh when she said thst during our evolutionary history we ate primarily "lean small game"? Didn't you cackle at that one? Of the complete absurdity and sophistry of that comment?

[@gustavogomez7331]

She also didn't debunk the Paleo diet, she just t emphasis on plants over meat lol. She seem to have an agenda. Wouldn't be surprised , she works for the government lol.

[@orangemoonglows2692]

what more does she need to present? the information presented disputes what paleo advocates suggests was the diet of paleolithic people. she does it with facts. she doesn't need to update b/c she already has the facts - paleo people ate tubers, legumes...essentially a lot of starches.

[@snazhound5827]

A note to clarify one point, the FORTRAN program in the ethnography book is on Hollerith cards which were invented in the 1880's, long before IBM was founded. Cheers from Canada.

[@ksitigarbha9787]

She didn't debunk anything, only some peoples bogus idea of what a paleo diet is. The conclusion she has seems to have is to eat many different types of whole foods, including meat. And she seems to think our main 3 food are wheat soy and corn. Obviously she has her head in the clouds

[@ryan.1990]

Anthropologists are on the same level as psychologists when it comes to science. They're often politically motivated and spout scientific errors just because it's politically correct

[@proverbalizer]

5:10 wait, is she's literally saying that epigenetics does not exists or matter? It's not about changing your actual genes, but changing how your genes are expressed

[@xmissxvictoriax]

I was shocked by her saying that as well because it has been found that environmental factors, diet, exercise things like that are able to influence how genes are expressed. So the fact that she negates the ability to turn genes on or off makes me weary of believing everything she is presenting.

[@Noegzit]

@@xmissxvictoriaxSame here I was shocked by what she said. She wants to explain us that the paleo diet is a fad diet but she doesn't even know than a diet (among other things) can modify the expression of our genes.

[@gilessteve]

I'm glad that others noticed this too.

[@martinepeters9891]

​@S. Giles I find it a weird lecture because there are not so many year round available fruits and vegetables in nature. Even today the last hunter gatherers rely a lot on meat.

[@jakobkrey9789]

I think they're irrelevant to this discussion, epigenetic processes are not fully understood, and people claiming that eating a specific way will change them in a specific way is surely false. Beyond this, epigenetic change due to any other factors is kindve irrelevant to the discussion of diet.

[@pjjmsn]

You know she is shilling for the plant-based ideologues when she says that bananas are extremely nutritious.

[@kegeshook1734]

Yup. Bananas are not worth eating at all.

[@lloydchristmas4547]

So you found out "paleo" isn't paleo. Truth hurts

[@pjjmsn]

@@lloydchristmas4547 Wrong, I didn't find out any such thing. You couldn't pay me to go back to veganism. I don't want return to arthritis (I want to walk), psoriasis and to be bloated and farting and visiting the bathroom all the time. Not to mention to be 40 pounds heavier than I am right now, with no muscle tone. No thank you. I feel better than I have ever felt -- ever. My point is that Christina's presentation is misleading, probably intentionally so. And she claims to have single-handedly figured out the obesity epidemic mystery. That is a pompous claim, while (although she is standing behind a podium) you can see that she probably isn't thin. The presentation is crap, meaning so many things in it don't hold water. Don't be surprised to see several thorough debunkings of it coming out soon from the carnivore community.

[@jackieOAT]

She said bananas are nutritionally dense compare to their wild counterpart.

[@JohnWayne-86ed]

@@jackieOAT I think she is dense compared to her counterparts, she should wear a banana costume when she gives her lectures.

[@Justrelaxx101]

I don’t remember seeing the paleo diet put down agriculture. I have seen the diet put down the industrialization of processed food filled with sugar. I think she is confused on the philosophy of paleo.

[@c3cxla]

she presented carefully selected evidence to present her case and says some things that are purely wrong, she says humans would eat small game and organ meat, why would they throw away the rest? we do in fact have evidence of humans hunting mammoths, maybe even to extinction. She is also advocating as an European, what I assume to bunch of Europeans to eat plant-based, would like to see what kind of local plants and fruits do the Scandinavians or other northern populations eat during the winter.

[@Goldenhawk583]

I live in norway, and no way I would be able to rely on plants during winter, lol I prefer meat.. my chickenns and rabbits do well on what can be found here:)

[@Ganpignanus]

where i live they also ate other humans, it was widely done. and known. so you would have been on the menu. stone tools no metal. and this was only done away with fairly recently.

[@c3cxla]

@@Ganpignanus i don't see an issue, concerns about cannibalism are mainly ethical not nutritional. I would probably eat a person too, in medieval Europe it was popular to consume human organs as medicine as well.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

She clearly described the Vikings and other Northern Europeans as milk drinkers and alluded to fermented milk products (and fermenting in general for a wide variety of cultures) . . .thus keeping cows (duh) through the winter, creatures who helped keep them warm in turn. Certainly in Winter inhabitants would kill and eat what they could, and in Summers the lingonberries (or their progenitors) were eaten in turn. Please provide the evidence that somehow humans 'ate' the path toward Mastodon extinction. That's a lot of poundage to chew through. Admittedly, all sides can and seem to cherry pick in presentations similar to this one. For me I found many of her modern day food comparisons absolutely hilarious (and compelling). Smart chick. I am sure she has moved on from debunking paleo, back into her natural realm of deep, thoughtful science. I appreciate her cavorting around in modern culture however - refreshing! AND refreshing for her to summarize that we need to be adaptive in our consumption strategies, and eat a wide variety of food stuffs for optimal health (no bandwagon for her). Someone mention she is not 'fit' looking, like a paleo eating physical trainer/lifter. It's true. She is a brainiac researcher - this does not happen in the gym.

[@c3cxla]

@@eugeniebreida1583 it has been a long time since I've watched this, at what point does she mention Europeans eating meat in winter? Humans arriving at mammoths locations coincides with them going extinct at those locations and it wouldn't take much, since they already had a low population.

[@frenchef7]

Joe Rogan should have her on his podcast

[@DirtyCommunist]

"Wow, interesting, hmm, that's really compelling. That's definitely possible." One week later: "I'm here with Alex Jones and we have only eaten meat for a year. We're fuckin' cavemen."

[@cassie1264]

He would probably agree with her that we should be eating more whole foods, liver, and bone marrow and less processed food. I eat similarly to Joe and I agree with a lot of the critiques she made of the paleo diet. I dont think she debunked it as well as she thinks she did. 😂

[@mididoctors]

This has been known for a long time .

[@tntnyny]

I think, at least in terms of dietary science, Joe wears his ignorance on his sleeve. But I do think he like presenting 'certainties' to us(his audience). He wants to keep it simple and give us something we can follow in our personal lives. This researcher isn't dealing in certainties. They're presenting the complexity of real science. I think she'd be a very interesting guest on JRE, and I could listen to her talk about her research for 3 hours. But I doubt it would be an entertaining enough interview for the God's @ Spotify to let her on their air.

[@jancko995]

Spot on

[@lovedabunny]

I think she's making this stuff up. Did she just hear "paleo" and decide what that meant? I have been reading about this particular diet for years and have NEVER heard this version of paleo.

[@Ganpignanus]

and what makes you think we should listen to YOU maybe YOU are making stuff up...

[@lovedabunny]

@@Ganpignanus #1.- I have nothing to gain from lying. #2. I never asked YOU to believe me, I just stated MY opinion..

[@yingyang1008]

Go to a forest in Europe and trying living off carbs - good luck Even in summer it would be impossible, in winter it would be totally insane to even try

[@okdoomer620]

why though... Most forests are completely artificial and it's not like stone age people just left their tribe and went into the woods.

[@yingyang1008]

@@okdoomer620 The point is that we didn't live off plants because there were hardly any

[@cheezheadz3928]

Well, you wont find head lettuce or kale, but you will find way more edible plants than you can imagine. Research!

[@yingyang1008]

@@cheezheadz3928 feel free to tell me where a group of humans would get their calories from

[@Goldenhawk583]

@@cheezheadz3928 Plenty of edible plants.. but edible does not equal healthy or plentiful. In winter we have extremely few plants available here up north, and winter could last 6 months.. Where to then get the needed calories, as you need more of them in the cold?

[@damostirling]

Her whole issue seems to be with the label “paleo”. If the diet was originally named “inflammatory food free” then I guess as an avid archeologist, she would have no bug to bear. Modern farmed GM wheat and refined sugar is the root cause of lots of autoimmune conditions, joint pain, fatigue etc. Check out “what the wheat”

[@kriputyub7566]

I agree. I had had hashimotos and I have fought it with paleo diet

[@aa.4639]

Preach. I my keep fibromyalgia,.cfs and severe depression under control with the paleo diet.

[@redragna3648]

Inflamattory food free...There is no evidence that grain cause inflamation except in those with preexisting allergies and even then, it's not system inflammation it's local inflammation in the gut. The diet name you are proposing would be just as unscientific and just as dumb.

[@aa.4639]

@@redragna3648 Do you live under s rock?

[@redragna3648]

@@aa.4639 Rock, no not last time I checked. But I do remember the definiton of an ad-hominem from rhetoric.

[@jamesm.9285]

Eat whole foods, prepare them properly where need be, and vary it up.

[@davidgmillsatty1900]

A new paper debunks Dr. Warinner. "In a paper published in the Yearbook of the American Physical Anthropology Association, Dr. Miki Ben-Dor and Prof. Ran Barkai of the Jacob M. Alkov Department of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University, together with Raphael Sirtoli of Portugal, show that humans were an apex predator for about two million years.... "In a process unprecedented in its extent, Dr. Ben-Dor and his colleagues collected about 25 lines of evidence from about 400 scientific papers from different scientific disciplines, dealing with the focal question: Were stone-age humans specialized carnivores or were they generalist omnivores? Most evidence was found in research on current biology, namely genetics, metabolism, physiology and morphology.... "For instance, research on stable isotopes in the bones of prehistoric humans, as well as hunting practices unique to humans, show that humans specialized in hunting large and medium-sized animals with high fat content. Comparing humans to large social predators of today, all of whom hunt large animals and obtain more than 70% of their energy from animal sources, reinforced the conclusion that humans specialized in hunting large animals and were in fact hypercarnivores." phys.org/news/2021-04-humans-apex-predators-million-years.html

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Interesting, thanks.

[@melissabrock4114]

I understand your argument but I'm afraid you've missed the gist of her argument

[@davidgmillsatty1900]

@@melissabrock4114 The first myth she wants to bust is that we "evolved to eat meat and Paleolithic peoples consumed large quantities of meat." That is not a myth according to the authors of this paper who call homo sapiens hypercarnivores. According to them, homo sapiens were the apex predators on the planet eating primarily the largest and fattest terrestrial animals prior to the dawn of agriculture. And our ancestors and hominid cousins had been apex predators for two million years prior to the dawn of agriculture. As she points out you can't change your DNA overnight. But we had two million years of evolution to bring us to the level of hypercarnivore. I haven't reviewed the rest of her video because at minute 7:46 she clearly states as her primary point something these authors obviously disagree with.

[@dunningkruger9122]

How are stomachs with a pH of 1.5 and vestigial caecums not evolutionary adaptations to eating large quantities of meat?

[@iksaxophone]

Alright, I like the level of detail she's giving and I find her presentation more convincing than the usual of this type. But I have a lot of questions. One is, if only the elite amongst the Maya were allowed to consume animal products, what does that say about the value of meat? I'm also wondering why she says we have a plant-adapted gut based on its size when the size of our GI is more comparable to carnivores than it is to our nearest primate relatives.

[@t1u9b8a8]

The value of meat came from it's rarity and it's difficulty to process, where as plant agriculture you can keep all of your food in one place and not have it run away from you.

[@boguslav9502]

Shes wrong on the gut part thats been debunked time and time again. Meat in eastern european cuktures was a staple, not a luxury.

[@nickbuis3307]

With all the information she's puts out somehow it still seems biased and doesn't convince me. No matter how you slice it or dice it the Mediterranean Diet seems to be the most optimal for humans and stats prove it.

[@kaminski1ayla]

In regards to the thought that human GI tracts are closer to carnivorous - On average, carnivores have a GI tract length of 3-7 feet. Herbivores have a length of 10-12 times the size of their trunk. This easily put them above 10-15 feet in length and most times, more. Looking at humans, our GI tract is 30 feet long on average. Simple Google search to find this info. This instigates that we are natural herbivores, not carnivores. Not to fight on this, it's just the facts and I'd be sad if you went your life telling others that our GI tracts are that of a carnivore, when they factually are not.

[@iksaxophone]

@@kaminski1ayla surely this has more to do with the ratio of gut length:body mass than absolute length

[@robertos4172]

This does not contradict the overall message of the Paleo camp that humans eat meat. Of course Whole Foods, but other than sustainability why the vilification of animal foods in general?

[@seantyler7401]

Has she ever considered our teeth lost the carnivore structure due to the invention of fire. This made chewing meat easier and could have affected our teeth structure over time

[@yingyang1008]

What plants and starch did northern Europeans eat - even in summer there's just about nothing to eat

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

They stored them underground.

[@lf8238]

I grew up in Germany. We always found lots of wild berries in the summer, as well as fruit trees. Grains were harvested in the fall for winter consumption.

[@ModernLady]

Dude, I live in Norway...

[@yingyang1008]

@@ModernLady so list the starches your ancestors lived off before farming

[@yingyang1008]

@@lf8238 we are talking about pre farming Go to a forest in Germany and tell me how you would feed a tribe of people

[@imstevemcqueen]

The paleo diet is a fist sized piece of meat, any kind, and the rest of your plate vegetables, and fruits. So she's not correctly describing the diet. The foods she's recommending ARE what's on the paleo diet.

[@proverbalizer]

27:50 how did she just deny the whole existence of coconut and palm fruit?....zero chemicals or "industrial processing" is required to produce unrefined palm oil, a staple in the West African diet for countless generations

[@CtheForestthroughtheTrees]

Correction: most palm oil that is produced is HEAVILY refined and is a major driver of deforestation, destroying the habitat of already endangered species!!

[@proverbalizer]

@@CtheForestthroughtheTrees I've loved in Nigeria and seen how they produce palm oil first hand. It's basically the same as olive oil, crush the fruit and the oils comes out Palm trees are a native and indigenous part of the forest.

[@Shannon_Robbie]

If anyone knows about hunting they would realize that there's no way a caveman was eating a lot of meat. It makes more sense that they went days or weeks without meat due to not being able to successfully find or kill any animals.

[@dj.h7424]

exactly. we were gatherers that became opportunistic scavengers. Today we have all the healthier options. WFPB for health and planet, it works;, the beef/dairy industry and bacon loving carnivore cult don't like it!!

[@gustavogomez7331]

I haven't heard her debunk much or anything. Rather create arguments that I personally never heard about the Paleo diet like emphasis on meat. She rather put the emphasis on plants. I think Paleo diet has more to do with abandoning processed foods and things like dairy our body isn't used to.she is debating with arguments she created herself. People like her are probably paid to protect the junk food industry. Hasn't she heard Paleo diet promoters speak on lean meats vs high fats?

[@gotong]

That is the way I understand (or maybe that is how I choose to) the paleo diet. It's not about eating tons of meat but eating whole clean foods. You eat organic produce (where you get carbs), grass-fed meat, nuts, etc. Eliminate junk and eat whole foods. I'm not a strict paleo eater but rather I get parts of other way of eating (Mediterranean, plant-based) and what is glaring to me as good from those.

[@gustavogomez7331]

@@gotong That sounds like a good way to go about it. 👍🏼

[@james1098778910]

Mhm yes she's surely paid by the fast food industry 😂😂😂😂

[@Mercho59]

she not only debunked the paleo diet but also the vegan and vegetarian diet also 😂

[@bonsummers2657]

So, what does she support, generalist omnivorism?

[@BillMcHale]

There is nothing in her talk that deals with the history or the claims of the vegetarian and vegan diet, she is specifically addressing the claims of the Pale o diet.

[@kennedyjames007]

I agree that true paleolithic diets were varied globally and over time, but I think we should still look to the past for inspiration and guidance, and eat more primitive foods, and primitive processes like soaking, drying, grinding, cooking, fermenting. I hope she is as critical of the modern food industry and our industrialized diet as she is of the paleo-diet. Does she propose the same corporations that made us sick, now make us well? Perhaps we need fewer people. Hopefully we won’t solve that problem with corporations.

[@AdonisGaming93]

Only thing I really learned is that paleo isn't wrong....just that we can't listen to the clickbait media content that is put out there in ads because they twist it for money.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

What is certain is our ancestors did not ingest inorganic metallic iron filings "fortified" into foods, nor did they have inorganic copper and inorganic iron in birth control pills and falsely called "placebos." Nor were we as depleted in magnesium and ceruloplasmin-bound copper. Search "Morley Robbins" for more information.

[@proverbalizer]

when the archeologist starts talking about biology she goes way off track....the anatomy of our digestive systems and guts are actually closer to lions than cows or even gorillas. And why do we have a stomach pH of 1.5? We can digest animal proteins with ease and cellulose not at all. She talks about how starch is mainly digested before it hits our small intestine....animal protein is even more completely digested in the stomach before it hits the small intestine. Also it sounds like she's trying to debunk the carnivore diet...which is not the paleo diet.

[@salehelibiary6890]

What about Weston. A Price? Were just gonna ignore all his work?

[@mylesraymond7364]

Yes.

[@edwards1148]

That’s what I was thinking he did long study of communities

[@ApexRevolution]

@@edwards1148 On their dental health yeah sure lol

[@edwards1148]

@@ApexRevolution yes he did, he was a dentist

[@hunterhunter106]

When she said something about "hyper-masculinity" I thought "oh boy here we go..." But she was pretty good. Be weary of any fad diets. She makes a lot of sense.

[@KB-sv7fm]

Many of the people who have tried the Paleo diet have been amazed by the results.

[@emiliohoms6491]

@@KB-sv7fm you bet, having your body cannibalize itself its always going to give amazing results!! on any context.

[@KB-sv7fm]

@@emiliohoms6491 When I was first diagnosed with diabetes my mainstream doctor wanted to put me on this complicated diet. I talked to a doctor in Integrative Medicine. He told me about the Paleo diet. I have much better blood sugar control. Even if you don’t follow it EXACTLY you still could have good results.

[@emiliohoms6491]

@@KB-sv7fm oh, so you don't have diabetes anymore?

[@KB-sv7fm]

@@emiliohoms6491 Once you have diabetes you will always have it. I could control my blood sugar better with the Paleo Diet because it removes many common allergens like dairy , corn , gluten , soy, etc.

[@TT-wx4tg]

"We are omnivores-thank you for attending." 👏👏🎬

[@rrmerlin3402]

" wild birds lay small eggs that are hard to predict " You can set your clock on the date and time wild birds lay eggs.

[@tenplus1025]

Why do we have to supplement more on a plant vs. carnivore diet if we are evolved more to consume a plant based diet?

[@kristi94]

There is so much information out right now when it comes to nutrition and diets that it is just confusing. Can one way of eating be best for all? I am not sure. I think each one must find what suits them best. I am not a fan of the keto diet, however people have managed to get their MS in control by eating keto, it is also said that it helps people with diabetes type 1. So it seems to be helping when it comes to autoimmune illnesses. Then again other studies claim that too much meat can cause inflammation,heart disease etc. What is correct? Maybe depending on what our body needs and what actually makes us healthier is what we should do. I don't know what to believe anymore.

[@erikgulliksen6152]

I'm not really done a paleo diet, but as fare as thought your trying to pin down the diet, but ends up confirm what i've read was the base of it. No refind and processed food (like sugar) Omnivores eath what they find, but i also beleave there are some consensus about human eating all the big game until there where almost none left..?

[@TANTHEMANFILMS]

having depression & autoimmune issues myself a (modified diet) similar to a paleo diet has made the vast majority of my symptoms go away you could say its in a state of remission thankfully. Everyone is different there is no one diet fits all..

[@Mokaakashiya24]

Fun fact: many people today have crooked teeth and overbites due to thousands of years of eating softer more processed food. Over time our jaws grew shorter and wider.

[@JGComments]

It's amazing to be how much we've improved plant foods through selective breeding. We are so arrogant in thinking that our ancestors were somehow less intelligent that ourselves.

[@marydo3175]

Our extremely acidic stomach strongly suggest that human has evolved the degestive system to digest animal flesh, rather than plant derived carbs

[@dltnsdd]

It’s the single fact that we have a gallbladder that proves we’re mainly carnivores.

[@lordweaselfreak]

She said we have a digestive system for digesting plants yet the appendix is a plant digesting vestigial organ which proves the opposite.

[@margaritaegelhofer7981]

I don't understand how hits debunks the paleo diet. The paleo diet states early humans ate plants and animals, she says they ate plants and animals... Of course not talking here about the store-bought paleo fads.

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

The paleo diet excludes grains despite our ancestors eating grains

[@jenniferhunter4074]

@@TheYakisobaNoodle I get that. I'd argue that legumes and lentils were a bigger thing than wheat and grains. However, the grains that we consume are 1. definitely been modified just like carrots and bananas and apples and 2. consumed in moderation. I read somewhere that the ancestor of modern wheat would have had few kernels that would have required hammer force to break open. That's a lot of work. An entire tribe would have to work a long time to get even a good handful of grains. (Threshing is hard by the way. That's when you remove the grain head from the plant body.) I have a veggie garden in my little postage stamp bit of heaven. It's difficult to grow veggies and fruits. It takes time and constant monitoring and pulling up weeds, stopping insects, harvesting at the right time before another animal gets the benefit of all that work. In other words, it's hard work. Did our paleolithic ancestors live in environments that made it easy to get that grain and then, to grind it up in sufficient quantities even for one slice of bread. That's a lot of work even with a mill. Those water mills or stone mills that used animals walking in circles (or slaves) were a definite improvement to increase access. But those more modern mills weren't available to our hunter gather ancestors.

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

@@jenniferhunter4074 Well, I'm not saying our paleolithic ancestors necessarily ate tons of grains, I just think it is clear that we can eat them now and there is no real reason to restrict most grains unless you have an allergy.

[@jenniferhunter4074]

@@TheYakisobaNoodle yeah, but the problem with our modern diet is we've shifted what is normal in a human diet to absurdities. Look, I like bread and pasta. It's delicious. I like cookies and cake as well. But it's not natural to eat so much grain and grain derived products (unless we're talking about alcohol and then, the sky's the limit). What I like about the Paleo diet - I guess the colloquial meaning - is that it de-emphasizes the grains and the grain derived products. Veggies and meat and beans sounds like a pretty good powerhouse of nutrients that doesn't impact blood sugar so hard and is damn tasty. Add some herbs and spices and a human being is probably going to get not only all of their nutritional requirements but enjoy some damn tasty food. Cake should be a once in a blue moon event. Bagels ... again, once in a blue moon event. Instead, roasted chickpeas are good. Walnuts are nice as well. Warm lentil soup. Curried roasted pumpkin. A bit of egg and some chicken or beef. Some delicious salad greens and mashed tubers. Doesn't that work better for our species than the processed heavily grain dependent meal proportions that are being pushed on us and the associated rise in obesity and obesity related diseases?

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

@@jenniferhunter4074 Processed grains are not the same thing as whole food plants... I don't know what's really confusing about that. Oats, barley, brown rice, corn, millet, whole grain pastas, breads, and tortillas. That is not the same thing as white bagels and cakes. PCRM does not promote a diet high in processed grains or sugars. Steak hits your blood sugar way harder than whole grains. Beef actually causes a larger blood sugar spike than white pasta. Not sure what that thing about alcohol was, but that has an impact on your blood sugar, and damages your entire body. Whole grains, whole starches, legumes, fruits, vegetables, and nuts should be the powerhouses of nutrients your body is getting, and that is what this channel advocates. Not bagels, cakes, and cookies. I get all of my nutrients every day exactly like they advocate, I'd be happy to share my Cronometer 😂 Edit: And my food is damn tasty too.

[@NewEnglandInSeattle]

Thank God for the KZbin comment section where non-experts with no background and training can come and correct experts in their fields.

[@operaguy1]

She keeps saying "meat meat meat" when the truth is: 2 million years fat-adaption.

[@lkeane3591]

A few major holes in her assertions; firstly that we're not designed to eat meat, yet we have four organs purely for digesting fat, our stomach acid is stronger than most carnivores and nearly as strong as scavengers, and the length of our GI tract is far closer to a carnivores than even apes. Then for the hunter-gatherers data, saying its heavily skewed to the artic regions doesn't address that nearly all of the other hunter-gatherer societies still follow similar diets; Hadza in East Africa, Batak in Asia, Piraha in South America, Spinifex in Australia. Regardless of continent, hunter-gatherer societies still live on mostly meat, milk, and if they can find it, honey.

[@afaultytoaster]

Nuts and seeds have fat. Our stomach acid isn't very good, it doesn't digest bones like a cat.

[@CraigCastanet]

This is a clickbait title.

[@yingyang1008]

Blaming the modern health crisis on foods we have eaten for tens of thousands of years is totally insane I'm from Europe - there were practically no carbs or veggies to eat there until farming, which was the blink of an eye ago We were hunters, get over it

[@Araanor]

started watching this thinking she would debunk the paleo diet, and just ends up debunking the misconceptions of the paleo diet, and promoting and proving they way that actual paleo dieters eat.

[@letsgobrandon-iq3bn]

I’m not really sure why this was promoted; she is an excellent speaker, but many things were blurred and skewed in this talk. I don’t believe the Paleo diet was intended to be just a meat diet, but balanced with meat and veg; relying on whole foods. I’m pretty sure that the 50yo Stone Age diet was meat centric, however. I do not believe that they are interchangeable. I’m not really sure why she believes ancient man wouldn’t have consumed animal muscle. I’m sure they didn’t waste anything, just to dine on organ meat. She breezed past the limited, Neolithic adaptations and disease caused by the western diet. She assumed that because starch was found on a 30k year old tool, that it had everything to do with meal prep so she could proudly claim that Paleo man ate starchy foods. Maybe they were making an ointment, refining seed oil, making a slurry to smear on something, or yeah, smashing tostones. The fossil record can’t tell you this. She rushed through the part where some regional LP adaptations exist and a limited portion of the human population have adapted to consume dairy. It would have been great to include a graphic highlighting those few regions, but that would have reinforced the fact that most adult humans should not consume dairy. It would also have been enlightening to state how long it would take for those adaptations to present permanently. She frequently inferred that the Paleo Diet assumes that humans are carnivores and not omnivores. Much time was repeatedly wasted on this erroneous concept. Yeah, humans have evolved to eat some plant matter; but, we are not cows; herbivore digestive tracts are totally different. If we were more herbivore, we would more resemble a gorilla (teeth, jaw, intestines, trunk). She later admits that humans couldn’t digest ancient lettuce, but then she assumes lettuce was domesticated solely for human consumption; failing to mention its most likely adaptations were the result of natural selection caused by the harvesting of lettuce seeds for oil. Humans would naturally prefer to pick the least thorny and spiny varieties… unless you were in Egypt, where cultivars would have been selected for other, sexier reasons. Finally, she goes on to discuss an example of an ideal Paleo diet. Oh, yeah duck and quail eggs are hard to find in markets; how dare anyone eat a Chinese chicken egg? Totally absurd. The really disturbing part was when she admits that wild fruit and vegetable varieties would offer limited substance to a human diet. Why then believe that ancient man didn’t primarily survive on meat or seafood/shellfish? I had to stop watching at this point, as the talk seemed to be agenda and opinion driven, rather than fact-based. I thought the science was clear; tools found indicate that ancient man would follow their animal food sources, likely harvesting available plant food along the way. These diets could have been very regional or more expansive, depending upon migratory patterns influenced by whatever cataclysmic event shaped their landscape. The video wasn’t a total waste of time, as I suddenly find myself motivated to try this Paleo Diet again. What is more clear, now, is that industrial processing is big business and likely attributing to disease. I can’t see this new trend of lab-grown, plant-based cuisine being any different. Whole foods with a preference for foods that my ancestors might have eaten seems pretty reasonable.

[@ljgfb]

Did our ancestors lift weights 5 days a week though... Lean meats, and eggs are working great for me.

[@melissabrock4114]

They just ran dozens of kilometers a day and risked their lives on a daily basis to hunt enormous wild beasts with tools they made themselves...

[@zaluq]

Pr 100 gr serving : Beef spleen 45.5 mg vit C, Beef Thymus 34mg vit C, Pork Liver 25.3 mg , Chicken Liver 17.9 mg , etc etc .

[@GS-xj4st]

Based on the relative weight of these organ to the whole carcass, to get enough vitamin C to prevent scurvy on a carnivore diet you either have to eat several dozens of kg of meat per day or waste just as much. What's the drawback of eating veggies anyway

[@zaluq]

@@GS-xj4st Based on your answer its clearly you dont know how minescule level of vit C yoiu need when you do low carbs or no carbs, all the carnivore community around the world has no scurvy at all .

[@Goldenhawk583]

@@GS-xj4st The drawback of eating veggies , in short, is that it is a starvation diet for you body. If you eat only plants, and take no supplements, you will suffer badly after a while.

[@v-sig2389]

@@Goldenhawk583 yeah yeah, eating meat is not taking supplements. LOL

[@GS-xj4st]

@@zaluq I do know that only 10mg are required to prevent scurvy and my calculations are based on that and not on the optimal intake of >100mg for good health, thanks. You should have known that by checking my calculations. And if you believe carnivore doesn't have scurvy you're blind, wilfully or not

[@JordanTelezino]

seems to me this was basically a hit piece with the intention of just hating on the diet because its popular however mis understanding why diets like this, keto and carnivore are becoming more popular. The point is that we started with whole foods in there original forms and so should continue to eat them rather than refined carbohydrates that have no nutritional value and are put together from a hundred different chemicals which are causing increasing health problems amongst the general population. By doing so and removing the heavily processed food we should in return have more energy, not get as fat and be in better health conditions. All you've done is say why it doesn't match to what it is trying to reference but do not address the reason for why diets like this were created in the first place: FOR BETTER HEALTH

[@eugeniebreida1583]

You are right, her presentation WAS intended as a blow to the Fad Diet known as PALEO. She is not here to describe the ideal human diet, this is not her purpose. (and in fact she is not a nutritionist) She understands well what past mammals ate based upon markers such as dental plaque . . . and thus found that grains and tubers were included in diets LONG ago (these are the 'horrible' carbohydrates which Paleo People argue today will cause us dietary harm - not so!). I am with you completely as to how we have strayed profoundly, permitting marketing schemes of mega food companies to 'choose' how we eat, instead of each of us taking time in the PRODUCE sections to choose fresh, in season, organic foods, or as close to it as we can. With occasional forays to organic raw aged cheeses, or fresh grass fed meats - but only if we exercise adequately to protect our arteries from the many downsides of high saturated fats and other challenges of eating mammal meat (inflammation). Ideally we live near an organic farm, or grow in our backyard, and have friends with chickens in the country. Etc. BUT we are many, food is pricey, we can't all 'live like that'. Sad fact. We MUST do our best, however, to protect our health. Eat wisely! Avoid inflammatory states, such as diabetes, obesity, cardiovascular disease, cancers . . . good luck to us all.

[@garyhunt1546]

If this is a debunk, it's the worst one I've ever seen! After absolutely throwing Dr. Cordain under the bus, she concludes with 3 pieces of dietary advice that are actually main tenants of The Paleo Diet! 1) Diversity is key - we eat too much wheat, corn and soy (all excluded from The Paleo Diet and replaced with a large variety of fruit and vegetables), 2) Eat fresh foods, in season (fresh fruit and vegetables are the base of The Paleo Diet), and 3) Eat whole foods - minimize added sugar and avoid separated (processed) foods. If she would just add 4) Eat fish and leaner, unprocessed meats, and 5) Avoid salt, she would actually be 100% recommending The Paleo Diet! None of her recommendations conflict in any way with Dr. Cordain's! I'm 50 lbs down, 3 years out on Dr. Cordain's Paleo Diet, haven't missed a bite, much less a meal, and recommend anyone interested visit The Paleo Diet website. (including Dr. Warinner)

[@smoothassmooth]

She is ignorant the Paleo diet is not carnivore and has a lot of vegetables in it. She does not even investigate what a Paleo diet is .

[@ASAMB12]

Just stating, what different diets these people ate doesn't prove that these diets are all good for you. Apparently, people in Old Egypt were suffering from similar diseases as we are today, therefore it might not be helpful to follow their diet. Just because people were able to subsist on certain foods doesn't mean they are optimal for your health.