Antony Beevor on Putin’s Stalin-like blunders, Lenin and Hitler | interview

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The Telegraph

The Telegraph

Күн бұрын

Following Vladimir Putin's monologue on Russian history in his interview with Tucker Carlson, should our leaders try and learn from history? To discuss, Steven Edginton is joined by the historian Antony Beevor.
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@kaiserflanderson2632
@kaiserflanderson2632 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic interview. Huge props to the interviewer and to Beevor, very interesting and nuanced discussion.
@JohnPretty1
@JohnPretty1 Ай бұрын
An Establishment shill.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Ай бұрын
Bot
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 Ай бұрын
watch out for the CO2 problems in your petersburg cellar ivanskitrollski@@VladPutin88
@user-jp1ge5nb2f
@user-jp1ge5nb2f Ай бұрын
@@VladPutin88 Definite Zedbot.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 ай бұрын
Extremely refreshing to hear from someone with intelligence and knowledge that can offer something that is divorced from the usual media & political hysterics. I have read several of Mr Beevor's books, and although I have not always agreed with some of his observations, he is streets ahead of the usual commentators. I am also certain he saw this conflict coming some time ago. This is an astute interview with a wisdom rich historian who has some accurate & valid information to share here.
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw Ай бұрын
“Streets ahead?” What a bizarre phrase to use.
@trojanthedog
@trojanthedog Ай бұрын
​@@coimbralawNot to a native English speaker.
@MrLJT1
@MrLJT1 Ай бұрын
@@trojanthedogYup busted!
@flyingisaac2186
@flyingisaac2186 Ай бұрын
@@coimbralaw worry about stuff in your native Moscow/St Petes bot.
@MikeWal2
@MikeWal2 Ай бұрын
​@@flyingisaac2186The name of the person that made that comment indicates that they are Portuguese. So not a bot, just not a native English speaker. [Coimbra is a University town in Central Portugal].
@ronmcdonald5952
@ronmcdonald5952 Ай бұрын
I could listen to Sir Anthony all day. I've got most of his books and read Stalingrad twice. Excellent... More please
@ttrons2
@ttrons2 Ай бұрын
rubbish
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 Ай бұрын
no need to try trollie, we all know how it works. So find yourself another hobby.@@ttrons2
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Ай бұрын
Anthony Beevor is a very balanced and grounded historian. His knowledge of WW2 is vast and encyclopaedic. The little shill from the Torygraph on the other hand, sounds like a six year old.
@MrLJT1
@MrLJT1 Ай бұрын
yes definately not an intellectual lightweight and Russian apologist like Emil Cosman.
@ytcf7781
@ytcf7781 Ай бұрын
All of the audiobooks are available here on YT now, they're amazing to sleep to every night.
@caseytaylor1487
@caseytaylor1487 Ай бұрын
Excellent interview! It terrifies me how little we teach of history and how little the general populace knows and understands about history!
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Ай бұрын
Very true. That leads to populistic moronic slogans like "Two world wars and one world cup doo dah." 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 The German national football team has gone a bit off the boil recently, admittedly, but Germany has lost count of the number of world cups it's won. France 🇫🇷 and Les Bleus won in 1998 and 2018. They lost the final on penalties even after Mbappe's incredible hat trick. Two world wars and two world cups.....France 😂🤣😅😆 Four (?) World cups and NO world wars doo dah ...Germany 🇩🇪🇩🇪😂🤣😅😆😁
@catinthehat906
@catinthehat906 Ай бұрын
Those British films they keep alluding to presumably- The Great Escape, The Dambusters and Reach for the Sky were all adapted from books written by an Australian, Paul Brickhill.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 Ай бұрын
Especially in the USA
@jgdooley2003
@jgdooley2003 Ай бұрын
I have great concern for the marginalisation of the teaching of history in Irish educational system more in favour of STEM subjects. Similar emphasis shift is probably happening across Europe. Any society needs a repository of history and people to teach it and detect and challenge lies and half-truths which will arise to justify evil actions carried out by states and factions to their own ends.
@backgammonbacon
@backgammonbacon Ай бұрын
The populace knows just as much as it always did this is just an old man shouting at clouds.
@kitiowa
@kitiowa Ай бұрын
Plain intelligent conversation just never loses it's relevance. I truly appreciate a competent interviewer as well as the subject.
@asdg2271
@asdg2271 Ай бұрын
😂
@adamdejardinier356
@adamdejardinier356 Ай бұрын
A pleasure to listen to. No gimmicks to corner the other side, no egos or self-promotion. Just calm but engaging discussion based on merit. A bit worrying though but I guess it's better to know the truth and think what we can do with it rather than deny it and pray for rain.
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477 Ай бұрын
Absolutely right. Greetings from Lithuania, Kaunas.
@AlBarzUK
@AlBarzUK Ай бұрын
@@adamdejardinier356 A prayer for rain in this neck of the woods, Adam, has connotations of the tautological! 😅
@danwright1794
@danwright1794 Ай бұрын
Russias win this conflict . It’s just math . Known for quite awhile. Enough of narrative driven politics
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 Ай бұрын
I could listen to these two superior intellects all day ! Gracias, The Telegraph.
@boxlabs
@boxlabs Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 Ай бұрын
Superior intellects. That conflict has been going on for 10 years. Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years. Its a pity that more people don't look into why that is.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 Ай бұрын
@@jackspring7709 "Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years" Prigozhin explained the entire conflict before being assassinated. Ukraine is being invaded to enrich the oligarchs and give Shoigu some bogus claim to military glory. The reasons for ruSSia's invasion is just as simple as that - greed and hubris.
@user-mc8wi2lg2m
@user-mc8wi2lg2m Ай бұрын
One superior intellect.
@sakttan
@sakttan Ай бұрын
Steven Edginton was the chief digital strategist for "Leave Means Leave," the pro-Brexit, Eurosceptic political pressure group that campaigned and lobbied for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union following the 'Leave' result of the EU referendum on 23 June 2016. Leave Means Leave was chaired by British property entrepreneur Richard Tice and business consultant John Longworth. The vice-chairman was leader of the Brexit Party, Nigel Farage. Anthony Beevor is the only superior intellect in this video.
@Forest_Knight
@Forest_Knight 2 ай бұрын
We need more historians
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 ай бұрын
Yes. More Historians. Fewer PROPAGANDA MERCHANTS
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 2 ай бұрын
Mark Felton, Kings and Generals, Epic History, History OverSimplified and more...... check them all out.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 ай бұрын
​@@IrishTechnicalThinker Oh ... I have..
@dannydadog1987
@dannydadog1987 2 ай бұрын
Try @Savage Sage 😆
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 ай бұрын
Especially ones like this who understand how to relate to it and not wield it as a weapon to try to prove a viewpoint.
@evanmurphy2473
@evanmurphy2473 2 ай бұрын
How can something be so interesting and so depressing at the same time.
@pjl8119
@pjl8119 2 ай бұрын
It's Russia. Depressing and interesting is what they do.
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 Ай бұрын
@@pjl8119 Touché ! 😂
@TheKievKen
@TheKievKen Ай бұрын
@@pjl8119Depressing yes.
@naguerea
@naguerea Ай бұрын
Nicely put Evanmurphy24783
@de6584
@de6584 Ай бұрын
Yes, the NATO proxy war is a brutal failure.
@francescahamilton6856
@francescahamilton6856 Ай бұрын
Excellent...Antony Beevor must be the best Military Historian we have in England. Such an inspiration to listen to him. Thanku.
@WingkKong
@WingkKong Ай бұрын
Ajp taylor far better
@PKowalski2009
@PKowalski2009 Ай бұрын
I don't know if he is the best. But, he is great!
@pauldoree3967
@pauldoree3967 Ай бұрын
Don't forget Max Hastings
@mcbrider53
@mcbrider53 Ай бұрын
Too bad the interviewer couldn't care less about what the empire contributed. Very English-centric. Beevor is just fine.
@WingkKong
@WingkKong Ай бұрын
@@pauldoree3967 his book is ordinary
@chrismerkel9604
@chrismerkel9604 2 ай бұрын
Sir Antony Beevor what a great perspective/knowledge of history!
@WonderMagician
@WonderMagician Ай бұрын
Anthony Beevor is atreasure trove of historical information. Thanks for an outstanding interview,
@hassanas-sabbagh6562
@hassanas-sabbagh6562 Ай бұрын
Antony not Anthony.
@vladmykhnenko75
@vladmykhnenko75 Ай бұрын
What an absolutely splendid interview! Bravo to both participants 👏
@Northcountry1926
@Northcountry1926 Ай бұрын
@VladPutin88 MAGA Troll
@fayabogush2956
@fayabogush2956 Ай бұрын
I could listen to Antony Beevor for hours. Have all his books, he is a treasure. So much knowledge, great memory, ability to link the past with present time - not every historian is willing to do so.
@joyaroy8532
@joyaroy8532 Ай бұрын
But I find him very biased... By a peculiar type of Russophobia not born from Soviet occupation or oppression that other Europeans have experienced. That channel NEVER mentions Ukrainian Banderites' holocausts on 100,000 Poles in Volyn, banning of Hungarian and Russian languages in Ukraine or their murders and the US-orchestrated coup in 2014, training of Ukranian neo-nasties although the BBC itself featured these things in its own documentaries seven years ago. Bias, lies of omission, prejudice and erhnic phobia do not make a historian great.
@gattingbowledwarne
@gattingbowledwarne Ай бұрын
I’m reading Berlin again for the umpteenth time. Tremendous writing
@Mr_Squiggle
@Mr_Squiggle 2 ай бұрын
A really good interview, more if this please.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Very engaging and interesting. In fact, I applauded certain at moments.
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 Ай бұрын
A lot better than interviews with the legion of 'BAMPOTS,' on KZbin who seem to think Putin is The Savior of The World.
@tonybennett3904
@tonybennett3904 Ай бұрын
Got to say Mr Beevor's book Staingrad is the most incredible thing i have read,incredible in so many ways.
@ray.shoesmith
@ray.shoesmith Ай бұрын
"THAT'S WHAT BERLIN WILL LOOK LIKE!"
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 Ай бұрын
I have read all of Beevor’s books… extraordinarily talented writer and historian. I have enormous respect for any views he has.
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 Ай бұрын
Why? All he does is human interest stories with no analysis, he's a light weight popular historian, not a researcher, not an original thinker, not an expert on Russia.
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 Ай бұрын
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 Didn’t think so…🤣
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 Ай бұрын
fjdkfodpjaknefnviiekenjkenknikeiiwudidfj (= a transcription of your brain)@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
@helennuttall6051
@helennuttall6051 2 ай бұрын
What a brilliant interview. History is very important and not least in helping to shape the future. I do hope our leaders watch this.
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 Ай бұрын
There is a gap in American education: it is History. 😮 Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.
@wishusknight3009
@wishusknight3009 Ай бұрын
@@cindymaceda2999 American education has more gaps than history.
@j.dunlop8295
@j.dunlop8295 Ай бұрын
This is Putin's seventh time attacking another country, our politicians are wishful thinkers, and minions of the rich, mostly!
@cutebee6981
@cutebee6981 2 ай бұрын
I love it when he mentioned Kievan Rus
@edward6902
@edward6902 2 ай бұрын
kyivan-rus
@heycidskyja4668
@heycidskyja4668 2 ай бұрын
Me too. I'm a woman and came up in a froth when it was mentioned.
@paulheydarian1281
@paulheydarian1281 2 ай бұрын
​@@heycidskyja4668 Like a frothy tart...??? 🤔😏
@dannydadog1987
@dannydadog1987 2 ай бұрын
EDIT: I listened to this twice and never once heard the term Kyivan Rusj. At what minute was that please?
@longandshort6639
@longandshort6639 2 ай бұрын
@@heycidskyja4668what kind of froth? Ovulation?
@pendleburyable
@pendleburyable Ай бұрын
Great Antony,thankyou for your insight,again.
@thomasbernecky2078
@thomasbernecky2078 2 ай бұрын
an hour well spent. And I never knew of Marcus Aurelius Clarkus; nickname, which is perfect. Thanks Sir Anthony.
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy Ай бұрын
I've heard that he was called by the troops "Mark-Time Clark" as he would advance to a pre-determined position and not use initiative and take further advantage of the situation if it was available.
@ralphhardie7492
@ralphhardie7492 Ай бұрын
What an extraordinary interview... I'll be back and get notes. Really extraordinary historian Thanks Thanks 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@kensedgers5632
@kensedgers5632 Ай бұрын
Great questions ! Best interview with Beevor I've seen...
@Inspectergadget69
@Inspectergadget69 Ай бұрын
I had to share this on FaceBook...I only expect a few people to listen to a historian where the interview is more than 5 minutes but I think that it is well worth listening to the whole interview. It might be an interesting challenge to see if any of my 'friends' actually take the trouble to listen to the whole interview and comment on it. I loved it and learnt quite a bit.
@Baldrick-ce9nd
@Baldrick-ce9nd Ай бұрын
Yes, it is worth listening to, but I fear my friends can't be bothered if I was to share. Love them dearly, but in-depth politics or history unfortunately loses to gossip on the royals or Tyler Swift. I was lucky, I had an amazing history teacher. Kudos to the teachers that teach in an atmosphere of STEM subjects only.
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863
@uniqueaerialvideoltd2863 Ай бұрын
Brilliant. This is the level of understanding and reason we should all strive to achieve.
@barryobee1544
@barryobee1544 2 ай бұрын
It was a pleasure listening to this discussion…👍
@sandypastiche173
@sandypastiche173 Ай бұрын
Utterly brilliant ❤
@Gatorhammer
@Gatorhammer 2 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that.
@JukkaKatajamaki
@JukkaKatajamaki Ай бұрын
I'm glad Antony is doing well. I have almost every book he's ever written. My favorite historian.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 Ай бұрын
I used to chat with a French Historian and Author Anton Joly whom is an expert on Battle of Stalingrad. I asked him about Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad as I personally enjoyed it and he told me it was so bad it could almost be considered fan fiction. He said Beevor was worthless academically and purely pop history. Which is probably true but his books are so interesting and easy to read it makes WW2 much more accessible to the masses.
@jthunders
@jthunders Ай бұрын
Why is Joly better than Beevor
@christopherdew2355
@christopherdew2355 Ай бұрын
Steven Edginton has certainly gone a long way towards redressing the paucity of his historical studies! A remarkably well prepared interview with a pretty magisterial command of the subject matter. Well done, and looking forward to more!
@mathildestoltz7327
@mathildestoltz7327 2 ай бұрын
Beevor is one of the best historians we have.
@mikewingert5521
@mikewingert5521 2 ай бұрын
Erudite and urbane in the extreme…
@seamusweber8298
@seamusweber8298 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, and his books are filled with facts and are highly highly informative. The man is a national treasure
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 Ай бұрын
LOL he's a lightweight who writes popular history books
@mikewingert5521
@mikewingert5521 Ай бұрын
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 ….Your first language isn’t even English.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Ай бұрын
@@seamusweber8298Highly selective facts
@dongira2384
@dongira2384 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting, too bad the whole world will not hear his lessons. The russians would be in great need of that ....
@imperatorvespasian3125
@imperatorvespasian3125 Ай бұрын
Russians understand history better than any European
@geraldrada
@geraldrada Ай бұрын
I dear say, the Russian is not one to learn from listening or even reading. Their oriental streak pulls them towards poetry, in the literature field, and towards bloodshed, when they disagree with someone. They are terribly fond of learning by doing...Meaning they learn whenever they get a bloody nose.
@lechiffre1914
@lechiffre1914 20 күн бұрын
Such a fascinating man and a legendary historian. A respectful young journalist interviewing Sir Antony as well.
@KW-hk2jd
@KW-hk2jd 2 ай бұрын
Young people who don’t know history will be doomed to repeat it. Oh how I wish I could be there to see it.
@greatdickens
@greatdickens Ай бұрын
How refreshing to have an interviewer who has some knowledge of the subject matter. There should be more of it,.
@tobydorman3998
@tobydorman3998 2 ай бұрын
Great talk. Thanks
@lubumbashi6666
@lubumbashi6666 Ай бұрын
Such a clear thinking man, incredible to listen to, even better to read.
@mikelanglow-bi2sv
@mikelanglow-bi2sv Ай бұрын
A privilege listening to your interview with Mr Beavers ❤
@user-zb9lv3gh8s
@user-zb9lv3gh8s Ай бұрын
(Beevor)
@guydreamr
@guydreamr Ай бұрын
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana
@bornatona3954
@bornatona3954 Ай бұрын
Everybody forget, everything repeat,lots of lies,endlessly.....
@jarredschwandner4115
@jarredschwandner4115 2 ай бұрын
Great interviewer really good lines of questions. Thanks
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477
@alfonsasgrinevicius7477 Ай бұрын
I appreciate such interesting conversations--- studded with facts and data. We, Lithuanians , escaped the USSR in 1990 . Later other subjugated nations followed suit. If we hadn't joined the NATO in 2004 ---Orcs would have assaulted us , East Baltic states .
@luistilli2328
@luistilli2328 22 күн бұрын
The Russians ( not all ofcourse) are Mongols...
@geoffreyevans3031
@geoffreyevans3031 9 күн бұрын
What a wonderful debate. So rare to see people debate the issue and not the man. Well done.
@kocyszemaitis2310
@kocyszemaitis2310 2 ай бұрын
Mr.Beevor is a history GOAT (tied with Kotkin).
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 ай бұрын
Both of them are antidote to the moronic pro-Putin Meerscheimer.
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor 2 ай бұрын
There are others at his tier. Margaret McMillan, Richard Frank.
@roygfs
@roygfs Ай бұрын
A. J. P. Taylor anyone?
@cindymaceda2999
@cindymaceda2999 Ай бұрын
But who in the next generation will take up their mantel???😢
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Ай бұрын
He’s a lightweight
@techalgia
@techalgia 2 ай бұрын
My favourite military books author ❤
@techalgia
@techalgia 2 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv What? a) I'm using tis account all the time b) Antony Beevor is mi favourite military history books writer - my first book that I read in English was his Spanish Civil War (at the time it wasn't available in Polish) c) what's your point?
@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv 2 ай бұрын
@@techalgia the account has 5 comments in total, for a 12yo account, they must have been epic. 😅
@brendanoneil3489
@brendanoneil3489 2 ай бұрын
I'm a bot honest @@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
@pjmlegrande
@pjmlegrande Ай бұрын
Very detailed and interesting history of Battle of the Bulge
@hakangustavsson3538
@hakangustavsson3538 18 күн бұрын
An absolutely splendid conversation. I listened in awe and with sheer delight. Pure luxury!
@georgewood100
@georgewood100 13 күн бұрын
Great interview expected no less from Beevor.
@stevenpace892
@stevenpace892 2 ай бұрын
As an American in defence of the quality UK generals, I would point out the UK infantry was not in a position to take casualties like American infantry. The regiment system meant that replacements had to be from their regiment. Also, years of war meant the UK was tapped out. Patton's brutal aggression could not have been applied in the UK forces the same way.
@petercollingwood522
@petercollingwood522 2 ай бұрын
Neither the British nor American Generals or Russins for that matter were particularly fantastic compared to the Germans. Primarily the Allies won because of their overwhelmeing numerical and material superiority and the Germans lost in spite of their Generals for the same reason.
@jthunders
@jthunders Ай бұрын
​@@petercollingwood522John Ellis "Brute Force" about this exact subject.
@mcbrider53
@mcbrider53 Ай бұрын
As a Canadian, my forebears would be appalled to hear their sacrifices ignored by both the USA and UK versions of the war. This interview was SO brit-centric.
@shaunroche3280
@shaunroche3280 Ай бұрын
I agree - a British Knight of the Realm, interviewed by a British Journalist from a British Newspaper...had these been American, I doubt they would even have mentioned Canada In my experience, your forebears' sacrifices are not ignored or played down in the UK, quite the opposite, it's just they are not relevant in this particular interview context....@@mcbrider53
@89RealThe
@89RealThe Ай бұрын
​@@petercollingwood522no
@DaboooogA
@DaboooogA Ай бұрын
Great discussion - need more of these eminent historians and less social media grifters.
@CYGNO
@CYGNO Ай бұрын
Brilliant. Great job both. Important interview.
@owensthilaire8189
@owensthilaire8189 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite authors.
@kinwingwu6442
@kinwingwu6442 2 ай бұрын
😮 educating information
@OrnumCR
@OrnumCR Ай бұрын
Fascinating. I concur with a lot of Mr Beevor’s points, especially context which is often forgotten about in contemporary points-of-view on World War 2 in particular.
@philippedefechereux7896
@philippedefechereux7896 Ай бұрын
Antony Bevoor is the best! Great interview, too.
@clivethompson9375
@clivethompson9375 Ай бұрын
GREAT INTERVIEW, GOOD LISTNING, POLITE AND VERY PROFFESIONAL, ITS SO GOOD TO SEE A YOUNG PERSON WITH MANNERS, = READ MANY BOOKS AND LEARN CONTEXT FROM WORLD HISTORY.
@johnwilliams-gz4ss
@johnwilliams-gz4ss 2 ай бұрын
Excellent.
@Ghatbkk
@Ghatbkk Ай бұрын
Great interview. Thanks for that.
@user-ck6bf3ke1w
@user-ck6bf3ke1w Ай бұрын
Excellent interview, I watched it twice!
@marcvangastel2157
@marcvangastel2157 Ай бұрын
"The only thing we learn from history is that nobody learns from history".
@thomasobrien5997
@thomasobrien5997 2 ай бұрын
Loved this interview tks
23 күн бұрын
I loved reading Mr. Beevor's work. He is one of the great historians of all time. We are fortunate to have such a distinguished scholar at this difficult time.
@fr.michaelknipe4839
@fr.michaelknipe4839 Ай бұрын
Wow 🤩. So informative and insightful
@lindas2531
@lindas2531 Ай бұрын
At last an English person who undersatands Russia and Ukraine and the absurd of everything that Pootin is saying, not to mention the sheer evil of the Russians
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 Ай бұрын
Fascinating interview with a great historian who I may not always agree with but I do respect. People sometimes say ‘oh why bother with WW2 we already know all there is to know about it’. But they are wrong there are huge amounts of information in archives around the world that could change our view on the subject. In just Moscow the Russians have lots of information on not just the Soviet side of WW2 but also on the German and East European people, actions and events pre, during and post WW2. It’s the same for the Cold War period there is so much we don’t know and in some areas probably will never know. Re Churchill I agree with Antony Beevor I’ve always seen him as a 19th century man living in the mid 20th century. He had the Imperialist, upper class views of his upbringing. That came through with his attitude to India and the other colonies and at home when he said if Labour won the 45 election they would bring in some form of Gestapo. This after spending much of the war working with Clement Attlee and other Labour politicians who had worked tirelessly to run things in Britain during the war.
@LumenP1023
@LumenP1023 Ай бұрын
We need more historians AND better history curriculum here in the free world.
@pepechen
@pepechen Ай бұрын
Yes!, we needed Beevor to comment on the latest ruski mess, brilliant idea to bring him on.
@FulmenTheFinn
@FulmenTheFinn Ай бұрын
Props to the interviewer for asking a couple of questions of his own personal interest at around the 19:30 mark. Beevor's answer about the Whites went into many of the same things I've been talking about to people for years. Especially the Whites' lack of foresight and unanimity to ally the Poles, Finns and Estonians was a major blunder that probably cost them the war against the Bolsheviks.
@invisipics
@invisipics Ай бұрын
What I would have liked to ask was his take on why the US and Britain allowed Stalin to keep so much of Eastern Europe at the end of World War II, because this is, I think, the source of all our present geopolitical woes. Especially with the ultimate bargaining chip of the nuclear bomb in hand at the time.
@imperatorvespasian3125
@imperatorvespasian3125 Ай бұрын
because your perspective on history is warped by 70 year old propaganda
@josephberrie9550
@josephberrie9550 Ай бұрын
churchhill told roosevelt about stalins real plans and the president went behind his back and done a deal with stalin at the yalta conference and let the russians take berlin Patton and montgomery saw this as a huge mistake but was pulled back by roosevelt and told to stay on the west side of the elbe river the russian army was way bigger at the end of the european war may 45 the plan was for the russians to attack japan through mongolia whithin three months of the end of the european war and trap the japanese in a huge pincer movement and save american lives in an invasion of mainland japan...it was a very complicated time and the russians were seen as allies at that time who had lost twenty million people in the german russian war
@newliferadio3918
@newliferadio3918 Ай бұрын
Truman should have listened to Patton. He knew what to do, but was obviously held back by a weary General staff and tired American public that just wanted to end it and get out.
@massimozanasi
@massimozanasi Ай бұрын
27 million Russians who died for your freedom perhaps
@davidbrimson83
@davidbrimson83 Ай бұрын
They 'allowed' the Russians to dominate eastern Europe because they had little choice, the Russians were in possession of the ground and neither the UK (which was bankrupt) nor the USA (who felt they'd sacrificed enough) were willing to take on the USSR. In addition, many in both countries already understood the sacrifices made by the Red Army and would have been difficult to convince of the justice of another war. Finally, Stalin had convinced Roosevelt and Truman in his turn that he ( Stalin) was a reasonable man with whom they 'could do business.' Both recognised that the USSR would be the dominant power in Europe. BTW, the agreements on 'spheres of influence' had been decided before the atomic bombs had been dropped on Japan; in fact Roosevelt persuaded Stalin to enter the war against Japan because he did not understand just how destructive atomic weapons would prove to be.
@Indiskret1
@Indiskret1 Ай бұрын
Top notch interview and video. Extremely important! Thanks a lot
@Abuamina001
@Abuamina001 6 күн бұрын
Kudos. An excellent interview.
@dennismorris7573
@dennismorris7573 Ай бұрын
Sir Antony James Beevor quite brilliant, indeed. Fascinating interview.
@daydays12
@daydays12 Ай бұрын
Up to 20:20 very interesting ...and then started to become boring so I stopped listening . I think Antony Beevor's book about the 'Russian' civil war ( a lot of it happened in Ukraine) sounds well worth reading. I am pleased he was able to have access to Ukrainian archives.
@reddog5031
@reddog5031 Ай бұрын
The book is a bit dense, doesn't cover Trotskys' train wars the way I hoped.
@KeepOnTesting
@KeepOnTesting Ай бұрын
Great author...I love your books Antony. Some of the best historical and war related books I've ever read. Dynamic and hard to out down.
@lordtherapeutics
@lordtherapeutics 15 күн бұрын
Absolutely magisterial
@SubTroppo
@SubTroppo 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Mad Magazine's 'Spy versus Spy' as the discussion demonstrates that world affairs seemingly constitutes myth versus myth. The greatest military weapon is deception, but one has to keep in mind that self-deception is perhaps more common - Germany's "stab in the back' being perhaps one of the best examples of an incorrect perception of events that led to an absolute disaster for humanity.
@rationalchimp8200
@rationalchimp8200 2 ай бұрын
Excellent bravo gents!!
@Pinakij
@Pinakij Ай бұрын
He’s a international treasure Scholar and a gentleman
@craigprescott6045
@craigprescott6045 Ай бұрын
Very good interview. We want more!
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 2 ай бұрын
I disagree with Beevor, Stalin did not recognise the allied bombing of Germany as a second front. Stalin was vocal in asking for a second front as soon as possible, and in that he expected nothing less than an allied army landing on the European continent. He repeatedly voiced frustration over this being delayed. The bombing campaign certainly was a second front, in 1944 there were 7500 88mm anti-aircraft guns defending the Reich. Russia’s fleet of T34s would have made no progress against that number of anti-tank guns. I also felt his apportioning of the contribution of Britain to victory in WW2 was not clearly articulated. Britain’s role was the supremacy of the Royal Navy, the offensive power of the RAF and the Enigma code breaking. We must not forget that Germany’s planned Kursk offensive in 1943 , was identified and the information passed on to Stalin directly. This played a big role in Russia concentrating their forces in the Kursk salient.
@wadestclair249
@wadestclair249 Ай бұрын
Well the US had to build up to a second front regardless of how impatient Stalin was. Plus to soften the under belly of the axis first in Africa and then Italy. Our military was really in shambles by the time we were attacked on dec 7th. Stalin failed to listen to his own people, telling him that germany was going to attack. His own spies knew the exact day and he refused to listen thinking it was absurd for germany to break their Molotov- Ribbentrop pact of nonagression. Stalin received a ton of US lend-lease to hold off the eastern front - 400,000 jeeps & trucks 14,000 airplanes 8,000 tractors 13,000 tanks We were fighting two fronts don't forget one in Europe and one in the Asian pacific simultaneously.
@Nik-jq4tx
@Nik-jq4tx Ай бұрын
​@@wadestclair249Massive land-lease started only in 1943 after the battles of Stalingrad ans Kursk.
@anthonyburns1169
@anthonyburns1169 Ай бұрын
Yes true Stalin was frustrated to the point he stormed out of a meeting with Churchill in Moscow calling the British cowards. It was Churchill who famously got Stalin’s attention by showing him the Linderman terror bombing campaign plans as a compromise (infamously known for deliberating targeting the working class areas of Hamburg because people lived close together in small apartments so they could kill more people with less bombs)
@alexanderpeskin7050
@alexanderpeskin7050 Ай бұрын
It's not Stalin's ignorance what resulted in Russian problems at the beginning of German invasion. He was about to attack Germany and occupy the whole Europe but Hitler outsmarted Stalin. Read the book "Icebreaker" which provides facts and documents proving this scenario.
@Fin4L6are
@Fin4L6are 24 күн бұрын
@@Nik-jq4tx and how much was supplied in 1941 and 1942?
@lievenvanlint7717
@lievenvanlint7717 2 ай бұрын
Hi great interview. Thanks for sharing. My observation is that I see a parallel between Putin’s history essay and the monologue in the Tucker C interview showing his pervererted view of history, and Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Both Mein Kampf and Putin’s essay are ideological pamphlets. Both distort history. Both try to justify expansion by force. Both ascribe to their nation (their people) a quasi holy destiny. Both form the basis of how history is thought in schools. Both require enthousiastic acceptance, and dissent is criminalized. And both are being executed as the screenplay of a bloody war. History repeats itself.
@user-ei8eq3yq1f
@user-ei8eq3yq1f Ай бұрын
What an excellent program Mr Beevor is anational treasure what a treat utter joy wonderful
@peterjohnkendall7637
@peterjohnkendall7637 21 күн бұрын
What a fabulous Historian Anthony Beevor is. Greta interview!
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Ай бұрын
Anthony beevor is a top notch historian his book on Stalingrad is superb and his recent one on the Russian civil war 1917 to 1921 is excellent too
@paulpopescu2757
@paulpopescu2757 Ай бұрын
21:03 "to defeat Denikin coming up from the South". Disappointing to see that he does NOT mention the contribution of the Black Army in this events, and the fact that perhaps the Bolsheviks gave Donetsk and Lugansk to the young Ukrainian Soviet Republic, as a gift for that contribution in defeating Denikin. Antony Beevor is speaking, ( to make a comparison ), as in Spanish Civil War, and the Ebro Battle of 1938, the Catalan influence, or the International Brigades were NOT part of the conflict..
@borisafanasiev2365
@borisafanasiev2365 Ай бұрын
He is lying all the way. WWII became possible since Munich agreement and support plus appeasement of mustached Austrian artist from European leaders. He also forgot to mention members of royal family sympathizing to nut zees.
@user-kt6bz5um7m
@user-kt6bz5um7m Ай бұрын
Fascinating interview!
@vasik9719
@vasik9719 23 күн бұрын
I can not agree more: history must be taught in schools!
@HelmetOfHonor
@HelmetOfHonor 2 ай бұрын
How can people not see the similarities of pre WW2 and the Ukraine War right now?
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Ай бұрын
Yeah we are playing the aggressors part
@user-wj6dt5bq3w
@user-wj6dt5bq3w Ай бұрын
Chamberlain never backed a coup against one of Germany's neighbors in 1938 so the Ukraine war has nothing in common with pre WW2.
@HelmetOfHonor
@HelmetOfHonor Ай бұрын
@@seanmoran2743 that's not what I said. Russia is the aggressor here. They started this conflict and if they do take Ukraine, like all dictators they will not stop and he already made it abundantly clear he wants to annex all former Russian/Soviet territories
@lordhogarth
@lordhogarth Ай бұрын
Population of Russia: 150 million. Population Nato countries: 958 million. GDP Russia: $1.8 trillion. GDP Nato countries: $49 trillion. Sure, Putin could nuke us all, but in any conventionally-fought war Russia would be defeated in a matter of months.
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 Ай бұрын
@@HelmetOfHonor wrong
@michaelmcintyre5719
@michaelmcintyre5719 2 ай бұрын
It may well be my own denseness, but this interview, while containing some fascinating analysis, seems to wander around without being firmly focused on a central question. The title suggested that there was one, but then it seemed to wander around in the general area of the implications of WW2 for British national identity, school history teaching, etc. Antony Beevor may be a fine storyteller (and he is in my opinion and the opinion of very many others), and an effective researcher, but his is usually not a deep and complex analysis of the topics he writes about. I think it shows in this interview, in that he doesn’t appear to help guide the interviewer into more coherent and relevant historical and political waters. Glad to see, however, that few here share my view: ah the richness of variety!
@sebsebski2829
@sebsebski2829 Ай бұрын
Excellent conversation.
@christianpilon747
@christianpilon747 27 күн бұрын
Excellent Ukraine 🇺🇦 Canada 🇨🇦
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 2 ай бұрын
Monologue of Putin, I like it. As dialogue indicates two people are chatting but Putin basically took Tucker under verbalised hostage. Then tortured him on camera, there was one point where Tucker didn't know what was going on. We lost all logic and reason when Tucker asked him about what about killer AI from the future, then Putin not seeing the joke went on another serious rant on the data for that possibility. My soul died listening to Putin.
@Wolf-hh4rv
@Wolf-hh4rv 2 ай бұрын
Tucker Carlson is a total ignoramus. And no I am not a crazy lefty.
@fazole
@fazole Ай бұрын
​​@@Wolf-hh4rv No he's not. He's a very good journalist who knows how to present the picture he wants. He is a master manipulator using 90% truth mixed in with his own views. He is, atbthis time, however probably the most truthful major reporter. Check out his interview with Brett Weinstein.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 2 ай бұрын
How could Russia belong to the borderlands? 😂😂😂😂
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 Ай бұрын
lol right?
@fredtorres1703
@fredtorres1703 22 күн бұрын
I remember history class was boring during elementary school, but as I matured I recognized how important it is. It is crucial that it be acuarate and true. Everything from government, legislation, even technology depends on it.
@avs4365
@avs4365 Ай бұрын
As someone not far off his eighties I have never heard just how our - the UK's- different views and understanding of our history has completely changed over my lifetime so clearly expressed. Intelligence shared, nothing better.
@pedazodetorpedo
@pedazodetorpedo 2 ай бұрын
Two Off Script interviews in as many days! What a treat.
@johnwebster5005
@johnwebster5005 Ай бұрын
The reality is that many people in eastern Ukraine consider themselves Russian and while Putin and the military have made mistakes, Ukraine has made many more - for instance, banning Russian as a language. General; Skirsky speaks Russian and only rudimentary Ukrainian and Zelenskyy speaks Ukrainian poorly with a very heavy Russian accent. And the Russians quickly learn from their mistakes. Putin has managed to build enormous unity in Russia against 'the west' and win the vast majority of the rest of the world to be 'against' the west and this is not just down to 'propaganda'. Russia has a strong case in Ukraine. The Russians took the statue of Potemkin incidentally because the Ukrainian nationalists said they would destroy it - AB knows this.
@mariaf.6601
@mariaf.6601 Ай бұрын
The language is no argument - think abou English- French- Spanish-speaking people around the world. Also, the fact that there are people who consider themselves Russian doesn't imply Russian state comes anywhere they are - think eg about Chinese people living in Siberia. "Russian language ban" is propaganda lie.
@andreafalconiero9089
@andreafalconiero9089 Ай бұрын
Congratulations -- that's the first intelligent, _informed_ comment I've managed to find here. It says something about the calibre of the average Telegraph viewer that there is such a paucity of sensible comment.
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 Ай бұрын
@@andreafalconiero9089 100%
@Fin4L6are
@Fin4L6are 24 күн бұрын
if many people in Texas consider themselves Mexican, it doesn't give the right for Mexico to rightfully invade. Especially taking holodomor into account and the replacement of population. Also have to separate ethnicity and nationality. Hitler also waned to "protect german speakers".
@Fin4L6are
@Fin4L6are 24 күн бұрын
if many people in Texas consider themselves Mexican, it doesn't give the right for Mexico to rightfully invade. Especially taking Holodomor into the account and the population replacement. People have the right of self determination, but only for the native population and only for those, who do not already have a country of their nation.
@itsgoodforyou4235
@itsgoodforyou4235 Ай бұрын
Antony Beevor cannot stop talking about Putin. Putin will never know Antony Beevor exists.
@whatwasithinking-jt9nz
@whatwasithinking-jt9nz Ай бұрын
Obsessed like a schoolgirl with the gym teacher.
@gilh3947
@gilh3947 Ай бұрын
129 k viewers, 6 morons liking your empty comment. Statistically that is quite ok.
@hassanas-sabbagh6562
@hassanas-sabbagh6562 Ай бұрын
Well, that's the difference between a historian and a senile usurper president with an inflated ego.
@bigolboomerbelly4348
@bigolboomerbelly4348 Ай бұрын
Putin will never know many things. The taste of champagne comes to mind.
@brentoswald8093
@brentoswald8093 Ай бұрын
Putin would be far better off had he studied a bit of history.
@dwoodman26
@dwoodman26 Ай бұрын
Giving some props to the Interviewer for knowledgeable questions and leaving the interviewee to talk 👍
@doctorwoohoo1152
@doctorwoohoo1152 2 ай бұрын
Always superb.
@valdsmt
@valdsmt Ай бұрын
Excellent interviewer, great and incisive questions. No fluff.
@barbarcreighton6726
@barbarcreighton6726 Ай бұрын
great man and very fascinating talk
@16252
@16252 Ай бұрын
thanks for posting
@dexculpepper-py1jr
@dexculpepper-py1jr Ай бұрын
Beevor love your work
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