Ants Are Not Super Strong

[@dafewger]

Ants have been awfully quiet since this track dropped.

[@gmwes]

Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough, but I don't particularly remember them being noisy.

[@doctaflo]

they’ve had it too good for too long

[@godofthecripples1237]

1 thousandth like, good on you my dude

[@spbot2]

Thats true havent heard ants speak anymore since 4 years

[@spokoman23]

LOL

[@randomity655]

Ants need to shut up about how much they can lift

[@joncarthy2370]

Yeah fucking ants going on about their lifting really bugs me

[@user-zp4ge3yp2o]

Their legs are so spindly they must skip leg day every single time, which is a shame as they've got no arms.

[@learningisfun2108]

😂😂

[@sebfox2194]

Yeah, if they're strong you'll be able to see it, but nobody likes a braggadocious ant.

[@jayhache5609]

@@joncarthy2370you won the internet that day, sir

[@christian_gamer_guy6447]

At this point, I don't even think Ant man was real.

[@ElMoppo1]

I'm starting to have my doubts about that Woverine fella, too.

[@logicman4837]

Antman is just made up by big bug in order to sell movies and merchandise.

[@TW-sh2un]

Noooo why hasn’t Superman done anything about this? 😢

[@troublemaker731]

@@logicman4837ah I bet it’s those damn grasshoppers again!

[@travisplugoway]

Antman is real. He has a mask that delivers breathing air to him.

[@PaleyDaley]

This is called the 'square-cube law,' and it is one of the most important concepts when discussing form and behaviour of life at different scales. It's why hummingbird wings are stubby and albatross wings are way longer than their bodies. In addition to not being able to breathe, Antman would be more affected by static electricity than gravity, sticking to walls and not able to take steps.

[@StanSlaughter]

Yes - but why do elephants have columnar legs but a T-Rex has chicken legs?

[@Lucas-sk5iy]

@@StanSlaughter Mate what are you on about? Tyrannosaurus had extremely large, muscular legs, which would have been absolutely necessary to support the body of the largest land predator on record. Chickens have membranous wings, and feathers covering their whole bodies. Tyrannosaurus do not; they are not avian. Their pelvic structures are the second largest skeletal structures in their bodies behind their skulls. Their pelvic bones are longer than they are wide in order to even have enough attachment points to support their massive thigh muscles. Their tails are as long and muscular as they are just to help counterbalance the rest of their bulk and to make space for those leg muscles. Their legs have the largest size to body size ratio of any theropod. Have you ever even seen what a chicken's legs look like?

[@crptpyr]

As well as everything the above commenter said, I would like to point out that t-rexes did have hollow bones, and were a lot lighter for their size than elephants as a result. T-rexes were bigger than elephants, but actually weighed about the same, possibly a little less.

[@FirstLast-wk3kc]

I like how the square cube law makes you 9 times heavier if you are only 2 times bigger.

[@plwadodveeefdv]

​@@Lucas-sk5iywe have no idea if t. rex had feathers or not

[@RhysClark97]

2:25 to be fair...he had an oxygen mask

[@swilson42]

She wasn’t clear on that point. The point is that oxygen molecules in the air are too big to be processed by ant-sized human lungs. Unless you shrunk down the oxygen molecules as well, tiny lungs can’t function.

[@Chanse1989]

What OP means is that the O2 issue is addressed in the movie.

[@LuciusC]

@@swilson42 if you can shrink a person or a building you can shrink a little air no problem

[@swilson42]

@ I hear ya, suspension of disbelief and all that, but it’s still nice to have at least some anchor to reality. Like many shrink rays don’t claim to make atoms or molecules smaller, they remove “empty” space between particles, which effectively shrinks things. I don’t remember if the Antman tech is explained this way at the moment though.

[@LuciusC]

@@swilson42 wouldn't that mean they're still the same mass?

[@merikijiya13]

I think she’s three ants in a trench coat trying to distract us from ants taking over the world.

[@SlainMascot]

That's ridiculous. She'd have to be at least 7 ants.

[@aidanfenton4377]

she is.... 1 MILLION ANTS!

[@tHa1Rune]

This is a severely underrated comment hahahahahahah

[@flaze3]

Just the 3?

[@tehbobb08]

“We totally couldn’t, I mean they totally couldn’t lift that much”

[@reed6514]

That woman was born to put ants in their place. 🐜

[@oz_jones]

So like a ruler of sorts. A queen maybe?

[@user-bw4jm1bv1i]

Or me...if she wanted.

[@coolbanana165]

@@user-bw4jm1bv1i Hot red head geeks, am I right? 😮😁

[@torba23]

she is the anti-ant-woman

[@nickkorkodylas5005]

Ironic since she's not in the kitchen.

[@danderas6377]

“Stuff is the size that it is because that’s the size that it works for…” I’m telling my girlfriend that. 😤

[@luanskrelja232]

We think alike😂

[@vela-6]

This is actually kind of true. Genetically, well-endowed men tend to be from groups of people with predominantly large badonk women. The poking stick must be long enough to poke.

[@beurksman]

@@vela-6 Do you have any other racist stereotypes you'd like to share

[@vela-6]

@@beurksman Yes. Black people produce more melanin than white people.

[@ZackaryReaves]

@@beurksman Probably just ones that relate to your mother.

[@hernanzarazua6406]

The fact a comic book character sparked the curiosity and then they named the research after him.. awesome

[@requiem165]

Ants have been claiming to be stong for far too long, glad this woman put an end to that discussion!

[@wiswc]

They are strong for their size, everything is relative man lol

[@XZagatoX]

@@wiswc Yeah but that's just it. Strength relative to size is a misnomer

[@wiswc]

@XZagatoX what? Strength is always relative to size lol

[@grahamekellermeier8280]

Ants never get sick they have anty bodies.

[@eckie4679]

😂

[@craigb3426]

Bravo. Best dad joke I’ve ever read.

[@shmulicohen1582]

I love the joke, But actually, ants don’t have antibodies or an adaptive immune system like we do-they rely on their innate immune system for defense

[@KulaGGin]

What's the joke, guys?

[@TeutonicEmperor1198]

@@KulaGGin anty bodies->antibodies

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

What annoyed me more about Ant Man was not him keeping his human-size strength when he was at ant-size, but the scientist shrinking a building and simply putting it in his suitcase all clean as if that building had never been connected to the ground and never had any plumbing or electricity attached to it.

[@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb]

Also the fact that when you shrink you're supposed to maintain your mass but Hank had a tank in his pocket

[@JerryN7970]

Also, it may have been small enough to fit in a suitcase, but it would still weigh the same as it did when it was a full size building!

[@Caine_House]

I mean, it's science-fiction. Keyword: fiction. They're amazing fictional scientists that in the logic of their world, probably had the building running on an internal power source and since he has technology that changes the size of things, he could change the size of waste without the need for plumbing outsource and just refills any water needed.

[@Caine_House]

​@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb In the comics, Venom is able to leech some of his mass to an alternate dimension. Perhaps with the logic of their fictional world that contains amazing scientific feats, Hank Pym can do a similar thing since he could do things like access the Quantum Realm.

[@yumeN0dengon]

@@Caine_House Yeah, except it's science-fiction. Keyword: science. Also, "fiction" doesn't mean "fuck the most basic principles of science and narrative coherence." When _you_ as a spectator have to try and come up with explanations for glaringly obvious inconsistencies in the plot because none are provided within the plot, that is called a plot hole, no matter the genre.

[@393Dan]

The quality of this video makes it seem like it's a show from the 90s, but then she starts talking about Antman.

[@JERRYjealously]

1:15 That's what i try to keep telling her

[@Barrythebarnabas]

😂

[@narancs5]

[Size changes in 3 dimensions but muscle cross-section only changes in 2 dimensions.] It is absolutely brilliant how she explained it in such simple terms.

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

Maybe I'm dense but that made no sense to me. Any 3D object can be sliced and its cross section will be in 2 dimensions. But that won't take into account the fact that it gets longer in the Z axis too. So it still grows in 3 dimensions...

[@sebfox2194]

​@SWIFTzTrigger Yes, I agree. You're being dense. As she explained, the contractile strength of the muscle is predominantly dependent on it's cross sectonal area, and not on it's length. So, the fact that the muscle gets longer doesn't add any appreciable increase in strength, because it's the increase in cross sectional area that's important. Consider a steel bar. What would make it harder to bend? 1) if it was twice as long, or 2) if it was twice as thick? As she is trying to explain, it's only increasing the thickness that makes it stronger, and increasing the length doesn't improve its strength. So, although you can increase the bars size in 3 dimensions, it's strength only increases in the 2 dimensions of its cross sectonal area.

[@TheCourtJester.]

@@sebfox2194 so girth better then length? gotcha👍

[@dg6729]

It's a well known explanation.

[@Razumen]

She didn't explain it. He isn't being dense at all.,@@sebfox2194

[@thegorn]

She put the smack down on ants like a large magnifying glass on a sunny day.

[@ArunIyer]

Your pfp 😂😂

[@mikedavis979]

The ants be saying... "shut up about the sun!"

[@magicaltonkatruck]

This is the most British show I have ever seen

[@Jibb3rs]

What does she know? She's not an Ant

[@bedelian]

0:34 if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike.

[@fugaschrustas461]

bro

[@birdwatching_u_back]

Could’ve been a signpost, could’ve been a clock / As gentle as a kettle, steady as a rock

[@ryanhernandez8324]

​@@birdwatching_u_back who made this song

[@birdwatching_u_back]

@@ryanhernandez8324 It's the song "One of These Things First" by Nick Drake. One of my favorite songwriters ever

[@AlexOjideagu2]

Ok Gino

[@davidtaylor142]

The pedant in me wants to point out that Ant-Man wears a helmet that could be supplying him with oxygen

[@sebfox2194]

Where are his oxygen tanks though?

[@jasonbhunt]

@@sebfox2194 Maybe the helmet continuously shrinks the air around him.

[@AuntBibby]

this is what i thought too. he has a breathing apparatus literally the entire time hes shrunken

[@NoNameNoWhere]

It's just as likely that he doesn't have lungs and runs on supernatural brainwave energy bestowed upon him by the magical walrus that lives in the center of Pluto. But that's just the pedant in me.

[@____________________67]

So you're a pesky ant too?

[@dancoroian1]

I don't think I've ever heard "a buildup of fluid around the lungs and brain" spoken with such a lovely pleasant demeanor 😂

[@RJGa]

That is why I love Dr Fry. Her intelligence is off the chart but her ability to communicate is of the charts as well

[@hman2912]

Pleasing on the eye as well.

[@zyaicob]

That's Hannah Fry for you.

[@b0xman935]

​@@hman2912eloquent way to put it but agree

[@quieness]

I guess the algorythm decided to make us all more ant-knowledgable this week huh

[@danhubble1984]

And I for one welcome our new ant overlords!

[@PepecoHub]

fANTastic, right? RIGHT? i'll see myself out

[@Radonatos]

@@PepecoHub Granted, I didn't anticipate that.

[@Spectator247]

Don’t believe her. Got an ant in my gym lifting 315lbs for 12 reps

[@YourCritic]

Hannah Fry is a superb science communicator.

[@Chris-dm1je]

Yes, she does very good programmes on radio 4.

[@keithwellerlounge74]

She didn't communicate this very well. Most people don't understand 2 dimensions, 3 dimensions, cross-sections, etc. I'm no clearer as to why she's right than before the video (though I'm sure she's right).

[@lorcan8484]

​@@keithwellerlounge74 wait till you hear topology

[@MG_Franklin_Kirby]

Let's create a six-foot ant and settle this right now.

[@sirpancherto]

Ants don't have feet though?

[@bencastor9207]

​​@@sirpanchertothey already have six legs as well so is he just implying we put feet on regular sized ants or..?

[@phattjohnson]

@@sirpancherto Ants DO have feet, also known as tarsi. Quit spreading misinformation.

[@terracottapie]

In case anyone doesn't know, this is an excerpt from the popular British game show, "Scientist Says Science Stuff And Then You Pick Letters Out Of A Hat That Don't Spell Anything".

[@dethengine]

Thanks! I was really confused by what was happening! 😂

[@donkmeister]

Sometimes it's quite exciting because you think they're going to spell a swear-word, but then they don't. Bah. (It's called Countdown for anyone who wants to look it up - it's shown when everyone is at work, so is especially popular with uni students, and people who are unemployed but have not yet reached the depths of despair known as "watching reality shows". There's also a ruder, funnier version called "Eight out of ten cats does countdown", which came out of a weird project where Channel 4 was doing mash-ups of two programmes but was so popular they carried on with it. Definitely worth a watch.).

[@Gnif572]

​@@donkmeister Sounds riveting

[@roberttaylor2058]

This is actually its sister show 'Statistician Uses Maths To Ruin Childhoods And Then Pick Letters...' etc. She also hosts 'It's Obvious Santa isn't real' and 'Baby Ghosts are just small hankies'

[@SinsGamingChannel]

Or: the unfunny version of "3 out of 10 cats do countdown" ;)

[@anodosarcade7355]

*comic book writers with their hands over their ears* “no no SHUT UP SHUT UP”

[@eastvandb]

Well, the joy of comics is that they're totally wack.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Stan Lee once asked how Superman can fly. The video should be here on KZbin. He pointed out that Kirby's The Mighty Thor is based on a simple scientific principle where he throws a hammer and then lets the hammer's momentum carry him. I'm not convinced that this actually makes sense. But he rightly pointed out that it doesn't make sense for Superman to fly. Originally, Superman didn't fly, he jumped over tall buildings in a single bound like The Incredible Hulk. It's just that in the TV adaptation it didn't look like a jump, so it memetically mutated into the Superman who can fly in space and shove planets around. Of course this is DC Comics, where Batman can breathe in space. Not like the more grounded Marvel where Iron Man flies straight up into space, ignoring orbital mechanics, until his suit freezes solid in the thermosphere.

[@eastvandb]

@@davidwuhrer6704 And while we're at it, superheroes floating in the air somehow have the purchase to push giant object around or catch a plane or whatever. Like, what are you bracing against, dude?

[@Roi985]

since when would they gaf about being realistic lol

[@CuteKiller313]

​@@eastvandb to be fair, they are usually flying via some telekinetic force providing thrust, not raising their buoyancy like a balloon or something

[@joemrda84]

How nice is to see someone who has a fact based knowlege and talks calmly and confidently about topic. It's almost mesmerising to listen and you automaticly absorb like a sponge..

[@EfraimNkengurutse]

to be fair what she is saying is not very contrevasial

[@pig_wrestler]

her explanation of it is

[@cliptomaniac2562]

NERD!!!

[@eastvandb]

@@pig_wrestler Why?

[@YEs69th420]

@@pig_wrestler She's completely correct though?

[@comoyoko]

You know when Tom hits Jerry with a frying pan… and Jerry hits Tom with an iron… Yeah.

[@ethanfreeman1106]

She's gorgeous

[@etherspin]

Yeah but not when you are looking at the underlying muscle tissue

[@willo7734]

She’s awesome. I like her Numberphile episodes a lot.

[@sebfox2194]

Sounds like you're a numberphile!

[@kemokidding]

I think you mean Numberwang

[@MajandraFan]

​@@kemokiddingthat's numberwang!

[@TheMisterGuy]

@@kemokidding I definitely do!

[@aadilharoon1807]

Shut it

[@MLB9000]

If giraffes could jump as high as a flea, pound for pound, they'd avoid a lot of trouble.

[@vinuthomas7193]

I can do that - that's only like 2 feet...

[@SnakeOfBacon]

Sure, one flea can jump 3.7 hotdogs, but what about a pound of fleas, cumulatively?

[@terriffingtea]

​@@SnakeOfBaconAmericans using ANYTHING except metric 😂😂😂

[@TheAutumnWind_RN4L]

​@@vinuthomas7193 lol. Fair enough.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Giraffes already avoid lots of trouble cause no one wants to fight a 2 story animal. Brother a kick from a giraffe can orphan a lion cub in an instant.

[@taxibeforesunsetclips7629]

Poor old Dec is just about fed up with people banging on about how strong his friend is.

[@phutureproof]

Both those guys have before, fore and after heads 😂

[@Sawta]

Personally, I am horrified to learn that a superhero movie isn't depicting real world scenarios.

[@davidglenn2739]

Ant: "Do you even lift bro?"

[@shaileshrana7165]

Thank you, Hannah.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

I remember an American cartoon - two characters comment on an ant falling from a ceiling and then walking, apparently normally. They are amazed. Then in the next frame there is a close-up of the ant - looking quite damaged. The ant says, "I hope I can make it to the cemetery."

[@bluegum6438]

I get the intent of the comic, it's quite funny. People often ask, "why don't animals get sick from drinking raw water?", well, they do, actually. They just have to deal with it. However, ants are so small that they don't get enough acceleration from gravity to be injured from falling. Many small animals are too small to hurt themselves falling.

[@mrkiky]

@@bluegum6438 As a kid I used to wonder why animals don't get cavities without brushing their teeth. Used to ask myself why humans have such crap teeth. Didn't realize that a mammal's lifespan in the wild is super short and they don't eat processed sugar.

[@millenniumhandandshrimp2610]

@@bluegum6438 An ant may fall out of an airplane onto a rocky cliff and be unscathed, but it will die of loneliness soon after.

[@bismuth7730]

@@bluegum6438 You are going to be mindblown but ants receive same acceleration from gravity as we humans do.

[@bluegum6438]

@@bismuth7730 yeah they don't get fast enough because of air resistance if we're being pedantic

[@clockywork]

Stan Lee's been awfully quiet since this dropped...

[@smelly1060]

🥲

[@Jacob19d]

He died 😂😢

[@cattysplat]

Dead quiet.

[@quineloe]

Actually this is also fairly disgusting, they're STILL using his verified @StanLee twitter account to post as him for PR.

[@turbotrup96]

​@@quineloe wow, that's messed up. However, since it works, it means fans are messed up too.

[@TheHonestPeanut]

She seems like the kind of person that would argue with you if you said something tastes like crap.

[@deathkillrt]

If humans were ant sized we'd still win, puny ants.

[@Gigaguenther]

the title "ant man and microscale respiration" really didn't get the laugh it deserved xD

[@vinuthomas7193]

Didn't do well at the box office, either - maybe it was direct to DVD?

[@Alresu]

Scientific Papers are serious business and the audience knows that!^^

[@jaschabull2365]

Didn't Ant Man show anyone who was shrunk without the suit die instantly? I thought the suit was meant to bypass the problem of not being able to breathe somehow (and I guess also preserve the wearer's temperature), though perhaps even if it could, there may be side effects which the movie glossed over, but it's something to consider.

[@KulaGGin]

It's Disney's Marvel. As long as it's diverse, it's all good.

[@BoxdHound]

@@KulaGGin God you people are boring.

[@eastvandb]

@@KulaGGin Ant Man as a hero has been around since January 1962, Bozo. And it's never been remotely realistic. That's the joy of comix.

[@samson7842]

Yes. This was referenced in the film, I believe. That’s why he wears the helmet and the suit.

[@YEs69th420]

@@KulaGGin When did you decide to replace all your opinions with this crap?

[@frown]

I'm fully crushing on Hannah Fry😳🤓

[@mickeyrube6623]

The technology that the Pym family uses takes these issues into account. Duh. Does she not understand how comic books work?

[@AlphaSeagull]

Square cube law! Feels weird looking at SOMEONE ELSE talk about it for once. Falling, running, lifting, climbing, jumping, flying, it's all easier the smaller you are as a creature. It's literally the main reason why most bugs can fly and they can all climb walls, and why exoskeletons work. If you ignore the oxygen deprivation part of this idea, an Ant-sized human would DOMINATE the bug world and it's not even close. As long as you don't get bit by something with venom, you could easily rip various insects limb from limb with your bare hands and even physically overpower a lot of the bugs that are bigger than you.

[@I_Am_L_3]

The nfl nba nhl and mlb called, and laughed in your face

[@MichaelMackenzie-nt2rf]

Interesting. I imagined from what she said in the video we would be relatively strong if shrunk down to insect size.

[@mysticalsoap]

Wow, thank god. I was about to shrink myself to ant size and hugify an ant to elephant size, but now I know I would've just wasted my time.

[@wheresmypudding]

This is basically how she explained it If these animals or insects where naturally bigger or smaller it would not be the same just like us Shrinking will never exist irl idk why people waste time arguing about fiction

[@RmnGnzlz]

Me: Two peanuts were walking down the street, one was a salted. This lady: * cracks her knuckles * Actually, peanuts do not have the capability to talk nor walk. The chances to have two peanuts walking down the street are not only laughable, they are literally none. Me: 🥺

[@widearchshark3981]

What so, Antman physics are nonsense? She'll be telling me The Hulk couldn't rip cars in half next. She so craaaaaazy.

[@theneoreformationist]

What's next? Superman couldn't use our sun's rays to fly?

[@D6Soldier]

No but for real have you seen the cross section of the hulks muscles??

[@ben2949]

The point of this isn’t to say Hollywood movies are rubbish because they are unrealistic. The ‘Antman’ premise is just an opportunity to teach some science in an engaging way.

[@widearchshark3981]

@@ben2949 Dude. I was joking !

[@jsmith434w]

@@ben2949 but they did a study on it, so no, its not just an excuse, its your tax dollars

[@nothing-yt7nu]

I didn’t realize they were on a game show until the very end

[@trooper2708]

Such a nice explanation she gave !

[@monk3110]

Didn’t know I needed a video of black widow concisely explaining why bugs are actually wimps. I too am sick of bug propaganda

[@CaveFreediving]

The biggest physics error with antman is not correctly showing the full weight of something after being shrunk down.

[@allaware1971]

*human sized ant appears and throws her 400mph through the wall.*

[@Zodroo_Tint]

So you think ants are indeed super strong and somehow super strong means they are also super fast?

[@Sothpawman]

@@Zodroo_Tint He never said that. You should work on your reading comprehension skills.

[@GFacts999]

​@@Zodroo_TintWhoosh

[@d-chudasama]

Wait until ant Jesus hears about this

[@CatzlovichCatnipAndCabbages]

@@Zodroo_Tint Super-strength is related to super-speed. A 400 lb bear can run 30 miles an hour, that's a 400 lb animal that can knock over trees running faster than the fastest track star who weighs over 200 lbs less than the bear. Force = mass X acceleration, more acceleration means more force.

[@tarael86]

I think ants might have killed her parents and she'd been preparing for that moment her entire life.

[@jimmy64224]

She indeed wasn't watching the film close enough because he had a special helmet to help him breath.

[@takemeseriouslyplx2124]

Ant-Man wears a suit tho, you could easily explain away all the shortcomings of shrinking a human to the suit giving him oxygen and stuff he needs to survive in a small state!

[@terrerov]

After listening to this, I realize that ants ARE super strong indeed.

[@aishaali9771]

We were thought this as a cursory thing to keep in mind in character art-the cube law of organisms.

[@Zed_Oud]

They did have him basically suffering hypoxia when he went too big.

[@jaysenjohnson2456]

There are species of fly (midge) and lemmings that live in arctic regions, so her size for a reason excuse is not actually related when she brings up cold climate body morphs

[@zkreso]

Finally someone dares to say it

[@joseherrera8489]

That comic books are works of fiction?

[@thekaratekidpartii2169]

Wait though, when someone says “if an ant were the size of a human it could lift an elephant”, it’s not said as if that were somehow a possibility. Surely it’s just a hypothetical illustration of how comparatively strong they are. Something like “an ant can lift 50 times its own body weight-that’s like you being able to lift an elephant.”

[@pussyhammer6969]

those are two different things

[@coolcat23]

The problem is that the comparison is made to suggest that ants are incredibly strong, which they are not. They are just very small. When applying an inappropriate scaling operation with respect to strength, one can make them look like they are the "elephant lifters" of their world, but they are not.

[@ovicephalus5938]

If you make humans smaller, they also become incredibly powerful and fast. Ants are not actually super strong and the strenght-scaling works both ways.

[@thekaratekidpartii2169]

​@@coolcat23 I have to respectfully disagree. I think the purpose of the trope is to teach a fact along with a hypothetical comparison which illustrates that fact in an interesting and comprehensible way. Rephrasing the trope a little, we get: "the fact is an ant can lift 50 times its own body weight. If you cannot imagine that, it is equivalent to you being able to lift an elephant. How amazing!" What the lady says here about the physics of actually enlarging an ant, and how that practically wouldn't work, is also a true and interesting fact. But the truth of one doesn't negate the truth of the other-ie., "an ant can lift 50 times it's own body weight (and that is equivalent to a human being able to lift an elephant) and if an ant were enlarged to the size of a human it's legs would collapse under its own body weight" are both equally true and fascinating facts but they aren't related.

[@coolcat23]

@@thekaratekidpartii2169 The problem is that stating "the equivalent to you being able to..." is wrong. It is evoking the wrong impression about the feat, since a human lifting an elephant would be amazing, but an ant lifting 50 times its body weight is not at all amazing in the same way. But we can agreed to disagree on that.

[@TheAurelianProject]

2:21 To be fair, I think that’s the entire point of why Ant Man has that mask because it also shrinks down the air molecules so that he can breath it. But I could be wrong, or I could be misunderstanding the reason why she’s saying this.

[@AnonymousProffession]

The paper she mentions does mention the Everest effect which is probably why she mentions it. The paper doesn't actually conclude with that, but instead uses that as a springboard for going into the theoretical technology required to breath, which is why she probably remembered that particular analogy and referenced it. It is a dry, technical paper. According to the paper, this hypothetical breathing technology only works if we assume he doesn't keep his mass as, if he does, then it would be functionally impossible for him to get enough oxygen to support his body due to Kleiber's law (from my understanding with a quick Wikipedia search, more mass=more metabolic requirements, including oxygen). He literally would not have the respiratory ability to do so, even with compressed shrunk-down oxygen. The paper addresses that he sometimes does keep his mass and sometimes doesn't, and essentially says "look, we have to assume he doesn't keep his mass, otherwise this doesn't work and he'll just suffocate immediately"

[@sathrielsatanson]

@@AnonymousProffession I mean, this stuff only works in Big Bang Theory i.e. superobsessive nerd circles that love to discuss it for shit and giggles. It's a given that from scientific viewpoint nothing from superhero comics or even most of science fiction works. Even if those stories use science they only use it as a springboard to create stories, not as the bible. That's why we have suspension of disbelief.

[@AnonymousProffession]

@@sathrielsatanson He asked; I answered.

[@sathrielsatanson]

@@AnonymousProffession sure thing :)

[@SamuelHaak]

​@AnonymousProffession appreciate your answer man!

[@augmenautus]

Basically, she is explaining the square cube law

[@bingobriano6021]

I'm so glad she explained that Ant-Man is "complete nonsense", I would never have guessed. 🤣

[@ThatAnArchyDude]

Lady must be blind if she doesn't see Ant Man wearing a respirator on his face. 😂

[@jsraadt]

Hannah is wonderful

[@aadilharoon1807]

No she is not.

[@Tazza19931]

She really is.

[@chad63]

thats why ant man wears his suit to combat those drawbacks

[@heh_boaner]

Yeah, he clearly has a respriator

[@dante19890]

she def had bug nightmares as a child

[@I_am_Dash]

"You must be fun at parties." Is a quote that comes to mind.

[@xcoder1122]

That's like surface area vs volume. If you blow up a ball, every time I double its radius, it's surface area has grown by a factor of 4 but its volume by a factor of 8. That means volume grows way faster than surface area and that means the ratio surface area to volume changes the bigger the ball gets, yet this ratio is responsible for many physical properties of objects. That's why things that work with small models will not necessarily work with full size models. That's why a small drop of water can form a ball but a big drop cannot: At some point the surface tension is no longer strong enough to prevent the water inside from breaking through the surface.

[@stickyrubb]

Yeah, it's called the 'square-cube law' ^^

[@brians2808]

Same reasoning why a bridge made of toothpicks is super strong and can hold many times its own weight.

[@v0id_d3m0n]

> At some point the surface tension is no linger strong enough... Ohhhh!

[@femto9er]

actually she's wrong, antman's helmet has a life support system which shrinks air molecules

[@nemofunf9862]

Wouldn't that cause fusion?

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

Which has nothing to do with what she's talking about. It's not the size of the molecules that's the problem (at least until you get into the movie-verse quantum nonsense where you really need to ignore real world physics to make sense of it), it's the amount of oxygen you can get in a certain volume. What he'd need is not smaller air molecules, he'd need oxygen-enriched air so he can cope with the much smaller lung volume. It's really besides the point though because ant man's powerset obviously doesn't make sense, and I really don't think the writers really were _trying_ to come up with concepts that actually make sense here, the marvel movies are just "shut your brain off and enjoy the spectacle" kinda films not treatises on "how do we represent super powers realistically".

[@al6243]

​@@hannessteffenhagen61The first Antman movies were kinda more or less consistent in their ficitonalized science. Like how the helmet was very important everytime he shrank, or those scenes where he eventually loses consciousness when he grows. But then comes the sequels where it increasingly becomes more inconsistent and fuk all to its established fictional science like in Quantumania where Scott and his daughter where effortlessly giants with their helmets off.

[@femto9er]

@@hannessteffenhagen61 antman is never seen shrinking without the helmet, and the helmet has a breathing conponment on the mouth, it would be safe to assume it has a small air tank, antman is never shrinking for more than a few minutes at a time.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@femto9er OK? Not what you said in your first comment.

[@TheGumbyGuy]

wow I can't believe ant man isn't scientifically accurate 😔

[@jumpyjeffrey]

Ant-man wears a helmet. And his powers are derived from his suit. The suit does have a respirator.

[@tedarcher9120]

That'a why ant-man wears his costume, it has a pire oxygen supply

[@osinskiaosinskia7621]

I would love to hear her talking for several hours without break.

[@roberttaylor2058]

If you can access BBC Sounds, she has a few shows on there - Uncharted is the latest and it's brilliant

[@wapbamboogie7213]

She did the 2019 Royal Institution Christmas Lectures. 3x hour long child-level presentations about maths (so even plebs like us can make sense of it). They’re all archived somewhere so if you can find that then your wish is granted 😂

[@tedhinklater3203]

She does loads of episodes on the channel Numberphile, she's a great teacher

[@alexander0the0gray]

Why is this video 4 years old, but all the comments are in the last month?

[@derPetunientopf]

because of the youtube algorithm.

[@vamboroolz1612]

Because all the man size ants were too weak to lift their eyelids………..

[@canopener505ify]

People have finally run out of things to watch.

[@MLB9000]

@@canopener505ify Each night I try and watch all the new videos that have been posted since the previous evening, but somehow I don't think I'll ever be able to catch up

[@roguesheep3083]

Researching rebuttals takes a while. No, I don't have one.

[@k_Why]

holy shit i loved listening to every second of her talking. she is incredible with the delivery and information

[@GeometryCube1]

she has KZbin channel

[@sarcastaball]

You just want to tap that

[@k_Why]

​@@sarcastaball ah, can't admire women for anything other than the fact that they are women, huh? "Oh he said he thinks she has a great way to deliver information. He must want to get her in bed" You're a fucking creep dude

[@kevinsedwards]

@@sarcastaball we all would love to tap that I'm sure

[@phattjohnson]

@@sarcastaball Redheads are da bomb.

[@mup_pet]

Well, that's completely ruined superhero films for me now. It all seemed so believable before watching this.

[@BeeboHamido]

That woman is derailing the entirety of ants career in Hollywood

[@jcnot9712]

That was some of the most educational 3 minutes ever.

[@Dead_Goat]

and it was incorrect.

[@blessanabey5575]

True Except when she compares it to science fiction movies for being not realistic.

[@cyberexile3507]

Paul rudd in shambles

[@paintingsky7208]

Clearly she hasn't seen Hunter X Hunter 🙄

[@themacocko6311]

Pretty sure no adult has

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Honestly the ant would likely collapse under its own weight…oh she said that as I was typing

[@MediocreN7]

HOLH SHIT?! You’re telling me superheroes are FAKE and not based in REALITY?! 🤯

[@hudysonsestari8228]

Wait till she finds out about spider-man attaching to walls.

[@marctiltman9555]

That is a good physics explanation, thank you. Cube law - if you double in size, your cross section quadrupals whereas you become eight times heavier. Now imagine what happens by the time an ant becomes the size of a human. ...and yes, shrinking a human down to the size of an ant, everything within becomes prortionately smaller, including living cells. Which would mean his restpiratory system would not be able to function - the atoms/molecules in the atmosphere would be far too big for his body to process - with all his own atoms/molecules/living cells having been reduced so much in size. However, we are supposed to just enjoy such entertainment, while giving some parental guidence to the children watching with us.

[@donnywilliamson5807]

What about the fact that every time he shrinks he has the Ant Man suit and helmet on. Could that be like a scuba suit and provide him with the air he needs. He never shrinks or gets giant without it.

[@Sylkis89]

​@@donnywilliamson5807 he does though. And not only him. There was the whole lot of them going down to the Quantum Realm (another nonsensical idea, but it's just entertainment, adding some Star Wars vibes to MCU) without the suits, just normal clothes, and being totally fine, breathing, eating, etc.

[@donnywilliamson5807]

@@Sylkis89 you're right I forgot about the third movie. I just remembered the first two and the Avengers movies.

[@kathorsees]

As a writer for video games (narrative designer, to be precise) I sometimes face similar problems. What people don't seem to understand is that they value scientific accuracy in stories a lot less than they think. There are a lot of hard sci-fi authors - and not a single one of them is as popular as Star Trek or JK Rowling (not saying they are worse ofc). It's just not what they're looking for in a story, most of the time. When people want scientific accuracy, they usually reach for a textbook, or Wikipedia, or a YT video. When watching a movie or playing a game, first and foremost, they want to be entertained. That's what they paid for, and that's what they acfually enjoy. So denying them this enjoyment, a short reprieve from the hardships and realities of life, is basically a breach of the unspoken contract between audience and author. Ofc, it's more complicated than that. It is possible, for some stories, to mix factual accuracy with entertainment - and it's beautiful when it works (e.g. The Expanse). But how many movies, books or games can actually follow this principle? Would The Lord of The Rings benefit from an editor who would change it to perfectly correspond to our understanding of physics or of Scandinavian and Celtic folklore? Does any of that even matter for a story that isn't concerned with magic or science or the nature of reality, like Oliver Twist, or Shakespeare's plays, or even say Shawshank Redemption?

[@charlesenfield2192]

Wait, are you telling me that 6 years I've been training to be the next Ant Man was a waste of time?

[@tecmow4399]

I thought Ant Man was a documentary 🤯

[@grey_f98]

Nerds take things literally and have poor sense of humor

[@9nikola]

@@grey_f98 Yes you're right. Nerds are incapable of understanding that a movie can be fictitious, and they are so bad at spotting which parts to laugh at and which parts to ignore. You're much cooler, because you are not a nerd, so you know exactly when to laugh, like when someone is being sarcastic, which you are also very good at spotting because you don't take anything literally.

[@Aperson-rs4eh]

@@9nikola a lot of words coming from a nerd

[@blessanabey5575]

So was Cleopatra from Netflix.

[@wiawaysb]

why does she look like shes enjoying this so goddam much

[@GaryNewOldman]

I mean yeah but I don’t think anyone actually believed scaling up an ant made them the exact same but just bigger??? The point of the elephant anecdote is just to show their proportional strength…

[@jackstone4291]

Could listen to this beautiful woman talk about anything all day long ..

[@aadilharoon1807]

Shut it

[@aadilharoon1807]

Weirdo

[@me_12-vw1vi]

same here friend

[@Draw2quit]

Square cube law explained

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

The fact that I figured out the strength increase corresponding to a size multiplication by 1000 would be a factor of 100 right before she said it, I'd say is a testament to how nice the explanation is.

[@mitchjohnson4714]

You're smart and humble.

[@HunnitAcreWoods]

@2:10 Her Gripe With Ant-Man Is Exactly What Ant-Man's Helmet Resolves...

[@urbaniv]

Thank you. Preaching this forever

[@____________________67]

Imagine correcting the idea of an ant increasing in strength with their size but not the idea of scaling up an ant to the size of a human.

[@Gandhi_Physique]

Not everyone can pay attention to a 3 minute video

[@piratekingalpha]

You do know insects and bugs were bigger in the distant past right? Maybe not human-sized, but much bigger than they are now. So it's not the wildest idea ever, especially in relation to a human being who can apparently shrink to ant size and then grow to skyscraper size and live to tell the tale.

[@gmazing82]

Thankfully Ant Man is too much fun to be ruined by pedantry. The movies explanation of "because tech" is all one should need. Still, interesting stuff.

[@jacksonhamilton6302]

1:21 There is literally a rat named the Norway Rat.

[@bendkok]

Most of Norway is not arctic.

[@shamusmcreary9748]

Hilarious I know 😂😂😂

[@haraldisdead]

And?

[@Rengokuo4o6]

And people want to give Batman shit about how "unrealistic" he is.

[@adamkinne6467]

Antman has so many holes it just shocks me that they bothered with it. Sometimes small things weigh as much as they do when big but he carries a tank on a key chain just fine and throws it and it only regains its weight when big. Then he goes into the quantum realm becoming smaller than atoms so how he is breathing at all is beyond me.

[@DiscoFang]

How do you feel about the talking, walking, clothes wearing mouse called Mickey?