Aoostar WTR Pro NAS Review

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@JarredSutherland
@JarredSutherland 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for to replace my current unRAID hardware. i5-8600T is a bit long in the tooth, this more than doubles the performance and is a much much much smaller footprint. Ordered one today.
@joostburg
@joostburg 2 ай бұрын
Sold out everywhere?!
@richardkenan2891
@richardkenan2891 2 ай бұрын
Me: Watches NASCompares videos. Also me: Uses a Raspberry Pi with a handful of USB drives as his personal NAS. Still love the channel, though.
@CastIronEric
@CastIronEric 13 күн бұрын
How are transfer speeds when pulling from the pie to your PC? Just curious
@DangoNetwork
@DangoNetwork 2 ай бұрын
There are alot back story and secret on those. The model selling in China use R7 5825U cost about $300 for bearbone. This was half year delay from when they announced it. And the 8-bay model was canceled. They say there will be a flag ship model. Based on their track record, we may see some design around end this year. and maybe purchaseable end next year.
@Reza1984_
@Reza1984_ 2 ай бұрын
Wow, this is exactly what I could buy in this price point, 200-300 cheaper than alternative, such a shame it doesn't include 10Gb NIC Love the design, a little bit on the fence about port location tho
@gabest4
@gabest4 2 ай бұрын
It was built around the 2-bay nas board. They could only put the ports on the side in this format. Wifi slot is also a left-over. My biggest problem with it in the 2-bay trashcan, is the cooling. The ssds are on the other side of the cpu and are really cooking. There is no space for a heatsink.
@rh3r0
@rh3r0 2 ай бұрын
Mine arrives next week, n100 seemed like a better box for my plex setup. Glad to see it featured here as there was almost nothing out there about this. I had a gem 10 before this and loved it. AOOSTAR seems to be a decent quality Chinese brand
@45KevinR
@45KevinR Ай бұрын
It would be interesting to hear your wattage, noise and transfer speeds on the N100 version. Feels like they sent all the reviewers the ryzen.
@SeanHosein
@SeanHosein Ай бұрын
Any update on your unit? How’s it going so far? The N100 is the unit I’m interested in as well for a basic media server setup
@mcipovic
@mcipovic Ай бұрын
I really respect your approach and honesty on reviewing these devices. I learned a lot from you on NAS topic. Truly respect man!
@yitspaerl7255
@yitspaerl7255 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! This is a very interesting device to create a virtualization environment. The CPU and the ability to use a lot of memory almost beg for that application. If I didn't already have a Proxmox server in a regular PC case, I would definitely go for this option because of the compact case and the 4 disk slots.
@alexd.55
@alexd.55 2 ай бұрын
Can you recomend this over the Terramaster F4-424 Pro for Unraid? My use case would be streaming 4k media via jellyfin, some home stuff docker contrainers and hosting private gameservers to friends.
@Uberragen21
@Uberragen21 2 ай бұрын
For the price, this NAS is probably the best one I've seen. I wish they used a newer Ryzen CPU though as I don't think the 5000 series Ryzen CPUs are still in production. I could be wrong as the chips were released in Q1 '22. Considering there are 6000, 7000, and now 8000 series mobile Ryzen chips in the market it seems odd to use a 4 generation old CPU. If I'm correct, either Aoostar got their hands on a shipment sitting in a warehouse for cheap or they're recovering the CPUs from old laptops. If the latter, that would worry me that there is thermal damage to the CPU. Either way for the price, I'm very interested.
@kajahtaa
@kajahtaa 27 күн бұрын
Installed a 2TB nvme and 32GB RAM to test / burn in mine. So far I'm really happy with the product.
@pacra2nd
@pacra2nd 18 күн бұрын
What is the power consumption?
@loncimancibamba
@loncimancibamba 2 ай бұрын
Good review, i use a ryzen7-5825u model 2 weeks ago, but facing at the first day, it hasn't good ventilation, advertised pictures with airflow are fake, it has a bad engineered cooling, because that 120mm fan push air through hdd caddy only, so cpu fan try to sucks fresh air through rear bottom small holes, in a small space, that means, cpu temp can rise easily ove 80°C. So immediately modified mine, completely disassembled, heatsink cleaned and applied MX4 thermal grease, replaced factory 120mm fan to a bigger 140mm Arctic P14 max version, dismantled original rear fan plate, drill holes to rear plastic grille, and hang fan with silicone fan mounts, lowering fan to center, so now it can push fresh air around cpu cooler and heatsink, drill 9 holes to hdd caddy bottom plate, over cpu fan to help airflow. Now i get normal cpu temp, checked with win11, i get 39°C under idle, 78 at full throttle, but set in bios "defaul 15w-> short time 35w-> long time 25W tdp", so after 1 minute cpu temp fallen to 68°C max, and cpu power slightly less. Completely enough for a daily work, or any nas server operation system with 7-8 VMs, now cool and futureproof. I am very happy now.
@juanpaz2911
@juanpaz2911 2 ай бұрын
I saw the pictures that you put on their website, really fine job! Just wanted to ask you if you had problems drilling the holes I guess it was fine since it's aluminium right? I will also apply the holes mod because I ordered one and I think it's just a cool idea to solve the issue. Why did you change the fan is it bad? Or is it noisy?
@loncimancibamba
@loncimancibamba 2 ай бұрын
@@juanpaz2911 That holes are ugly, but works. :-) I made all with a small spring pointer and step drill. But i will drill it to bigger with an 50mm dia circle driller, that helps cpu cooler gets more fresh air. HDD caddy side is closed steel, mainly bottom plate, i don't know, how manufacturer thinking about that tiny space cpu cooling situation. 120mm fan is completely same size as hdd caddy, so it can cool down hdds easily, but hottest part, cpu can't get fresh air. 140mm fan can help airflow around heatsink, it you lowering to center of case, so after cour drilling not help, maybe bigger fan helps cpu cool down. Now it's silent, original was loder because cpu temp was higher. I set back bios to default, checked smartshift settings, it's a goo 10-30-20, not auto, but unfortulately my CPU temp rising over 75°C in bios. I don't understand why the bios cpu temperature shows 31°C in another video.
@juanpaz2911
@juanpaz2911 2 ай бұрын
@@loncimancibamba I will keep an eye on that when I get mine and apply your solution if I am getting hot temperatures, thanks for such a detailed info!
@loncimancibamba
@loncimancibamba 2 ай бұрын
@@juanpaz2911 You're welcome!
@loncimancibamba
@loncimancibamba 2 ай бұрын
Very strange, my bios 08/02/2024 shows 75-78-80°C, but if start win11 shows idle 35-38-45°C, and completely good 65°C under stress test. If i flash older bios 12/15/2023, i get 25°C mboard, and same 25°C cpu temp, that totally unavailable.
@PolarRed
@PolarRed 2 ай бұрын
Bloody heck, better specced than Synology! What a surprise!
@CoreyPL
@CoreyPL 2 ай бұрын
I know it was a sarcasm. But my blood boils at seeing that almost everything is better specced than a Synology nowadays :) And Synology axing some of its software features in the recent updates is not helping. I use to recommend Synology for small businesses that wanted small, ready-to-go solutions that didn't cost an arm and a leg, but after the "all Synology drives or alert, all Synology RAM or alert" in the recent years plus latest software debacle, it's getting harder for me to recommend them anymore. I will probably start doing some custom TrueNAS builds and this unit might do the job.
@brad7957
@brad7957 Ай бұрын
@@CoreyPL I bought my first Synology and was disappointed by the performance. Then a week after they axed some of the software and I returned it! Now looking at buying this :)
@CoreyPL
@CoreyPL Ай бұрын
@@brad7957 Yeah, it became so popular that it's sold out on their web store. Still available on AliExpress, but for a bit of a premium price. I would go for it myself, but I run 8 HDDs, so no room in this nice case :)
@EfeArda1991
@EfeArda1991 2 ай бұрын
Nice review! I have recently bought an Orico HS500 Pro NAS with intel N5105. The software on its is terrible but it has standart amibios and runs casaos very well! The power consumption is lower than this and has hardware transcoding as well! I hope you review that unit soon :D
@CoreyPL
@CoreyPL 2 ай бұрын
AMD can also have hardware transcoding (not in Plex), but it is more complicated to set up and generally worse experience than Intel. I think N100 version will be comparable to yours when it comes to power consumption. 8c/16t CPU in this NAS is just way more powerful than N5105. Still, this unit supports up to 64GB DDR4, so it would be a nice VM host with that CPU. For the price I think that this is really good alternative for someone that does not want to build a larger PC and is happy with only 4 HDD drives.
@rahulsrma26
@rahulsrma26 2 ай бұрын
Dude do you live in Brighton or what. Watching your channel for more than a year not a single minute of silence thanks to seagulls 😂
@BobHannent
@BobHannent 2 ай бұрын
I think somewhere in east Kent
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
I'm based in Brighton (ish), moved around the coast a bit in the last decade. Oh and yeah....man alive...the gulls...god forbid the outsider that takes their life in their hands to eat fish and chips on the seafront....
@darling1911
@darling1911 7 күн бұрын
我也买了一个,但是,如果是用n100的话,似乎mi-d准备新出的nas是一个不错的选择?6盘同时包括两个10Gb光网口,我犹豫了好久,最后买了WTR PRO
@martinottolangui4667
@martinottolangui4667 2 ай бұрын
Nice timing ,mine turned up today ! went bare bones n100 , ;looking to proxmox , then home assistant for the usbs , got a terramaster f4 424 pro . unsure on a hub to capture , all me dongles, plus tos 5 has random system shutdowns, went fomo $280
@martinottolangui4667
@martinottolangui4667 2 ай бұрын
any recommendations for the NVME drive , will be loading proxmox ?
@martinottolangui4667
@martinottolangui4667 Ай бұрын
installed proxmox , hub works , plus the wifi port can be utilised for a coral m2 ! bingo for frigate , after terramster , not enough usb's for zwave ,zigbee, Bluetooth and rf , just wish i went to the one reviewed , btw no issue with the trays , now looking @ omv with the D8 das
@BrandonHalsne
@BrandonHalsne 2 ай бұрын
Great informational video as usual. I just wish you would stop knocking these devices for not have 10 Gbps adapters. Most of these are consumer/prosumer devices, and in real world conditions, 2.5, and really, 1 Gbps is going to be more than sufficient. For enterprise devices, 10 Gbps and ever 40 Gbps should be standard, but for a desktop NAS, generally it is overkill.
@californiaballer
@californiaballer 2 ай бұрын
Agree. I was reading the review and the absence of 10gbps option was mention at least dozen times. This is a consumer device for a small home NAS.
@MrPir84free
@MrPir84free 2 ай бұрын
This model surprises me ; however, it needs to come in something like a 6 disk variant for me to consider. The brand also has a 3 NVME drive model too; Specwise, the 4 bay seems like a good model for doing something like running Proxmox on.
@brandoncarlson3212
@brandoncarlson3212 2 ай бұрын
still waiting for mine to show up, not too thrilled with their production/ship times on this product. 7-21 days (small print, from the day the order is fulfilled, took 30 days to fulfill my order)
@phar2010
@phar2010 Ай бұрын
Yes, currently waiting for mine to be fulfilled.
@bluesquadron593
@bluesquadron593 2 ай бұрын
Just want to note, in my view the "back" direction is relative. You can still consider the cable side the back. Probably that's why they added a logo on the opposite side, which can face you.
@Galmok18
@Galmok18 2 ай бұрын
How many watts if the HHDs are spun down? I would be trying to make a setup with home assistant running on the nvme and video material on the HHDs. This would mean the HDDs would be idle most of the day. I agree that 10 gbe should be offered somehow and that using one nvme slot for 10 gbe isn't the way to go.
@CastIronEric
@CastIronEric 13 күн бұрын
This or UGREEN DXP4800 Plus?? 🙏🏼 Please let me know your opinion
@Avico78
@Avico78 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for n305 version of it, thx for the great reveiw
@TimHunold
@TimHunold 2 ай бұрын
I like the idea of n305 (until the new SOC Intel chips hit). An n305 2 bay Healuck is $565 on amz, 4 bay $669. nxxx systems are often dual 2.5gbe, which may be the bigger issue. This is passable for what it is, I guess.
@pabloszi
@pabloszi 2 ай бұрын
@@TimHunold N305 still lacks of PCI lanes, so it will be very weak in terms of IO... Also it is not power efficient as you may think. Just tested other board with this CPU and it is still weak in comparison to AMD CPUs (single thread cores). If you want to run more VMs (eg. in Proxmox) it will fail. The only advantage of N305 over AMD might be QuickSync/SR-IOV, but honestly - I use 2-bay version of Aoostar NAS (R7) with AMD 5700U CPU and Jellyfin works very well with it for my family... So because of additional 2 HDDs over R7 in general it is perfect solution :)
@Avico78
@Avico78 2 ай бұрын
@@pabloszi hey, what would be ur recommendation for 4 bays which will run proxmos and trunenas which use for running small home lab including home assistant and ofcourse serve as NAS?
@pabloszi
@pabloszi 2 ай бұрын
@@Avico78 currently I would opt for WTR PRO with AMD. Aoostar 2 bay (R7) is fantastic machine (despite its awful plastic case), but WTR PRO with AMD will beats R7 in any way and have durable metal case. More HDD slots, better CPU. In comparison to WTR PRO N100 it also has more M.2 slots, more RAM slots. To be honest comparing any WTR PRO AMD with any N100/N305 solution it would be better option. Currently you will not find anything better in that price range (4 bay) than WTR PRO AMD. Currently only Ugreen NAS case might be competitor in that range, but it is more expensive (699$ for 4 bay chasis with better than N100 CPU - Pentium). But if you like do something by yourself with more bays and more powerful CPU I would think of CWWK mainboard with AMD CPU (7940HS) and Jonsbo NAS case (eg. Jonsbo N3). In that case you can have 9-bay powerful NAS with powerful CPU with very powerful iGPU (780M) for about 650$ (without RAM and PSU - configuration of this elements depends on your needs).
@m88k
@m88k 2 ай бұрын
Did you investigate the SATA controller? The controller on the Aoostar R1 unit doesn't support hot-swap. Honestly, livable, but it's worth noting if these rapid-swap bays are backed by chips that actually support hot-swap.
@litebkt
@litebkt 2 ай бұрын
This would suit my needs quite well.
@naitcalo2141
@naitcalo2141 2 ай бұрын
Could you please review the transcoding capabilities on this AMD nas with jellyfin if possible, I always was curious how transcoding is in AMD hw. thanks
@shabadabadoo4326
@shabadabadoo4326 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking for a successful guide to use AMD GPU for transcoding for a long while. So far haven’t been able to find one….
@tnuwtasinitup
@tnuwtasinitup 2 ай бұрын
​@@shabadabadoo4326 On Linux va-api works with AMD. It's slower and has worse quality than Intel QS.
@DeLaVeGaGR
@DeLaVeGaGR 2 ай бұрын
I have the two bay version, the white trash can with the 5500U, I've set it up with Unraid and the transcoding works perfect (VAAPI), I had a bit of trouble setting it up, but it worked flawlessly. For example, a 4K HEVC HDR version of the Hobbit(18Gb) down scaled to 720p uses 15% CPU and 30% GPU
@shabadabadoo4326
@shabadabadoo4326 2 ай бұрын
@@tnuwtasinitup Worse quality picture? In what way?
@tnuwtasinitup
@tnuwtasinitup 2 ай бұрын
@@shabadabadoo4326 Taken directly from the Jellyfin docs: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Speed And Quality Due to the lack of B-frame support, the encoding quality of the AMD H.264 hardware encoder has been unsatisfactory. Although RX 6000/VCN3.0 brings back the B-frame support, the quality improvement is not great. The AMD HEVC encoder is far better than the AMD H.264 encoder, and the new AMD AV1 encoding support on RX 7000/VCN4.0 seems to be the savior of AMD encoding quality. Nonetheless they are currently no match for Intel QSV and NVIDIA NVENC. VCN4.0 additionally improved the encoding speed drastically. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The above is why I based my NAS/JF server around an intel chip with UHD 770 iGPU (dual Quicksync MFX). An Arc A310 is also a good low cost way to add Intel Quicksync to an AMD system, as all the ARC cards also have dual MFX.
@MaikKellerhals
@MaikKellerhals 2 ай бұрын
No, keep the ports on the back, except maybe a usb. Normal people will plug in once and then not handle for years...
@afroinline
@afroinline 7 күн бұрын
Did you tried Proxmox on this device ? i have one running Proxmox but i have bugs when i passthrouht the pci sata controller to VMs . like CPU temp stop reporting clocks stop going more that 2.3ghz , oh and when i use powertop --autotune device goes crazy 100% CPU usage and stop responding i need to hard shutdown after .
@xqr2911
@xqr2911 2 ай бұрын
Ryzen 5825U is Zen3/Barcelo (Cezanne refresh) with only DDR4/LPDDR4 memory controller. You even show only 3200MT/s RAM speed at 12:22. So no DDR5 and not even on chip ECC, which is a shame as I would take (full) ECC anytime over 10 Gbit ethernet. 10 gig at home is not essential and the switches are more expensive, hell - even mainstream wifi routers do not have a single 2,5 gig port. High end ones have maybe two and AFAIK there's still no consumer wifi router with full complement of 4+ port 2,5 gbit integrated switch.
@pabloszi
@pabloszi 2 ай бұрын
@NASCompares does this 25 Watts idle was measured with HDD disk spin on or off?
@ankorot
@ankorot 2 ай бұрын
I'm interested in that answer as well
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
I would need to check on Monday when I check my logs/B roll, but I am pretty sure it was standby or hibernation. With UnRAID, for the idle tests, I try to make sure UnRAID doesn't mount the pool yet. They I mount it and scrub/heavy write, whilst running VMs during the active use
@abzzeus
@abzzeus 2 ай бұрын
Personally I'm against Wi-F- cards in NAS boxes. Yes it can work *but* there are so many potential issues that is it worth the support hassle? Hardwired to a switch means very little to go wrong and you get full duplex vs the shared nature of WIFi
@pabloszi
@pabloszi 2 ай бұрын
I am against too, but imho it is fantastic information! I use this slot for Coral TPU for Frigate.
@abzzeus
@abzzeus 2 ай бұрын
@@pabloszi That's what these slots should be use for!
@M4XD4B0ZZ
@M4XD4B0ZZ 2 ай бұрын
​@@pabloszinoob question but do you just plug the tpu in and it just works? I'm interested but havent done anything with it
@JohnSmith-ky2qn
@JohnSmith-ky2qn 2 ай бұрын
It seems to me they just reused the mobo from the aoostar r7
@pabloszi
@pabloszi 2 ай бұрын
@@M4XD4B0ZZwith Coral TPU installed in A+E key (WIFI) it might be little tricky. In general - it depends on what OS do you use, because device file (driver) for Coral TPU might not be visible - it might need little tune OS. In Ubuntu is easy - plug and play. In other hand in Proxmox it needs some kernel tuning especially in LXC. Of course after driver installation you have to install and configure Frigate. If you are Linux user and text console installation and configuration of Frigate will be easy - there are lot of tutorials. If you are much like Windows user - it is not, because Frigate needs text config file to run...
@mQumboz
@mQumboz Күн бұрын
do you guys think I should get a mac mini as a home media server that doubles as a nas?
@corvusaflame713
@corvusaflame713 2 ай бұрын
man. that would make a pretty good Steam Machine for last gen games
@45KevinR
@45KevinR 2 ай бұрын
Seems pretty cool at the price point and the Watts. If they're targeting retail punters then they won't expect 10g and may not even have a switch with 2.5g or aggregation. Though conversely they might not know what to do with an o/s free NAS. Perhaps their home market matches that slightly odd customer more, and they've loads more 2.5g switches to buy. It's interesting/weird that the ryzen cpu is suffering the same bottleneck on drive to drive transfers that we've seen on N100 NAS and mini pcs. Unless it's a bios flaw and the o/s is working through the bios due to UEFI. Hmm. The idle watts is better than some N100 nas motherboards, especially when they're hampered by JMB chips, or weak bios support. I wonder how the AOOSTAR with N100 does...?
@DeNNiiiable
@DeNNiiiable 2 ай бұрын
Where is the Plex Test? its should be a must if a NAS comes with a new CPU :)
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
True. I am going to start adding these custom fit boxes to my Plex testing asap. Cheers for watching man
@juanpaz2911
@juanpaz2911 2 ай бұрын
In the webpage it says maximum 64gb, could you confirm this? Barebone price is $380 which I think it's an amazing! then you can buy good components like ram and nvme drive. Also next version of TrueNas or a Proxmox will fit perfectly into this one.
@AOOSTAR-PC
@AOOSTAR-PC 2 ай бұрын
Yes, supports up to 2*32GB DDR4 3200Mhz RAM
@InspectorGadget2014
@InspectorGadget2014 2 ай бұрын
I do not think you have much to complaint about using this system. Yes, 10GBe would be nice but I do believe at that price-point it is fair enough for most intended users. BTW, I do wonder about the fan at the back, is it pushing air out or pulling air in? If pulling air in, where's the dust-filter? Ports on the side is okay if you tuk this machine underneath your TV/audio-stand but I would still prefer ports on the back and front.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
I cannot wait to hear your thoughts on the "Tecknas' next week!
@InspectorGadget2014
@InspectorGadget2014 2 ай бұрын
@@nascompares I guess 2024 will be the year of (very) affordable NAS and/or DIY.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
Say that again! Are you in the inner circle/ members? I'm not asking/pushing you to join, but you've been a long time watcher/supporter, so I definitely think you've earned early access rights! I cannot manually 'action' this in the KoFi/Patreon/YT membership program. If you email me, I'll send you a full unlisted link list to the up and coming DiY vids. You've definitely earned it man
@techknowbabble
@techknowbabble 2 ай бұрын
One could argue that that is the back if the case and everything else comes in from the side the Logo seems to me to be on the front of the device
@millesona
@millesona 2 ай бұрын
Did you run unraid from the sd-card?
@fatjoze
@fatjoze Ай бұрын
Does it have on chip encryption? Eg. Bitlocker equivalent?
@djstraussp
@djstraussp 2 ай бұрын
Look like the Mainboard is Just Exactly as the one inside R7, which has a 2 bay sata and all the other ports. Also that particular MB has another Port hidden inside to connect a second Backplane or something to arrange more sata Disks. Take both appart, and you'll see the similarities.
@lucianandrei6499
@lucianandrei6499 2 ай бұрын
I would like to see this NAS disassembled and compare the MB with the R7.....Maybe I can upgrade my R7 😅😅😅
@darling1911
@darling1911 7 күн бұрын
@lucianandrei6499 We all know in the China that they use the same motherboard
@erictrauman2879
@erictrauman2879 2 ай бұрын
i have a n100 two bay for emu. good stuff
@sergkot3462
@sergkot3462 26 күн бұрын
This is almost like Storaxa but for real
@penguinjoe1961
@penguinjoe1961 Ай бұрын
The nibs holding the drives in for those trays have an angle on the back-facing side of them much like a door latch in your house. To put the drives into the trays, push the drive into the tray flat from the back and it keep pushing until it clicks in place in its final position. Very little effort. Taking them out again sucks monkey turds though and I agree with you there. smh Also it uses up to 64GB of DDR4 memory - not DDR5
@manielek
@manielek 2 ай бұрын
the I/O is identical to the R1/R7 maybe they recycle te motherboard?
@JohnSmith-ky2qn
@JohnSmith-ky2qn 2 ай бұрын
Seems that way to me too. The unused wifi card slot also suggests this
@rogerhalt3991
@rogerhalt3991 2 ай бұрын
4:00 imo the cables are on the ‘side’ so the case can be rotated 90 degrees on a shelf for more airflow(?) Why there is no nvme 4.0 and at least one 10gbe? Slightly annoying
@nicolascarrion5055
@nicolascarrion5055 2 ай бұрын
Respect for review, but I disagree, this is probably one of the best Home lab, NAS device for an affordable price. I cannot be positive about the quality of the electronics, the test of time will tell
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
I think the bulk of my criticisms solely come down to it being a system that, if released 6..maybe 8 Months ago, would be fantastic, as the alternatives were behind this.. But the market is very busy right now with similar solutions at a similar price. It IS. A good box and the price tag isn't too bad, but there are more exciting options in the market if you spend a pinch more. That doesn't make it bad, far from it, this little work horse is great (and having a n100 version is even better for scale of costs), but for its price tag, there are other options in the market that present some scalability that is lacking here. Hope that long windy answer makes sense!
@Marcin-0808
@Marcin-0808 2 ай бұрын
​@nascompares can you give any specific models?
@phar2010
@phar2010 Ай бұрын
@@nascompares What are those products that cost a pinch more?
@ouranioszefs9498
@ouranioszefs9498 20 күн бұрын
Will a 2242 Adaptor with 2242 ssd fit on the Wifi slot?
@JB-nv6eb
@JB-nv6eb 2 ай бұрын
Are there any news regarding their 6-bay WTR Pro being announced long ago. If I remember right, that supposed to have 10GB Lan.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
I'll raise a Q with Aoostar... That is, if they are still talking to me after my horrific butchery of pronouncing their name.
@JB-nv6eb
@JB-nv6eb 2 ай бұрын
@@nascompares 🤣 Thanks for following up
@JB-nv6eb
@JB-nv6eb Ай бұрын
@@nascompares Hi, did you already get any update from AOOSTAR in the meantime?
@tungdao3935
@tungdao3935 8 күн бұрын
Hi. I am wondering as well. Any updates?
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos 2 ай бұрын
RAID 5 in such a small NAS is not a good idea. Run SnapRAID with one spare and mergerfs on top and it's fine.
@phar2010
@phar2010 Ай бұрын
Can you tell me more about why snapraid with mergerfs is better please?
@chrometune
@chrometune 2 ай бұрын
I got the impression from this video that the drives are hot-swappable. Yet their website disclaims “The drives are not hot-swappable so you must power the machine down if you want to add or remove a drive”. Could you please clarify?
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
Tbh I didn't see this! (As the official page was live after I got this). I'll check this Monday, but tbh, it must be true if they are adding this disclaimer..as it's pretty standard for SATA drives in a NAS to support hot swapping (hence my assumption) and kinda odd if it doesn't (aka, drives delivered via an m.2 SATA adapter cannot hit swap, but this system delivers into a back plane). Will check if it's a sister board or delivered to multiple SATA at the back, into an m.2
@juanpaz2911
@juanpaz2911 2 ай бұрын
​@@nascomparesthis would be really interesting indeed
@AOOSTAR-PC
@AOOSTAR-PC 2 ай бұрын
I repeatedly confirmed with our engineer team that the WTR PRO series does not support hot swapping
@rodfer5406
@rodfer5406 2 ай бұрын
Cheap?
@patrickwasp
@patrickwasp 2 ай бұрын
Is it compatible with xpenology?
@connorhaughton6027
@connorhaughton6027 2 ай бұрын
I noticed this disclaimer in the Aoostar website description: "The drives are not hot-swappable so you must power the machine down if you want to add or remove a drive" I don't think I heard you mention no hot swap functionality, that's a pretty glaring feature omission on a 2024 NAS IMO.
@moli868
@moli868 Ай бұрын
They are mini pc manufacture so It is basically a mini pc glued with 4 hdd bay, that explained why it is not hot swappable. Even the motherboard is repurposed from their previous 2 bay model, they trying to keep the R&D cost down to get lower prices.
@firebreafdragon
@firebreafdragon 2 ай бұрын
Seems to be DDR4 not DDR5 you seemed to mix that up a few times
@LukeDoesMods
@LukeDoesMods Ай бұрын
If you watched Aoostar's video you would know that they slide in.
@T3hderk87
@T3hderk87 2 ай бұрын
This is sweet!!!
@Bytional
@Bytional 2 ай бұрын
Beware the build quailty may vary, I guess problem of the small company(more like studio), lots of people already point out the HDD tray problem. Lacking 10Gb NIC because it was build for the N100 model(their best selling model), the AMD one more like a after thought. Still I won't consider any of these, for me extenal PSU for NAS is a big No.
@SeanHosein
@SeanHosein Ай бұрын
Synology NAS devices have external PSU
@Ilham.H
@Ilham.H 2 ай бұрын
Please test low power s0 idle
@shabadabadoo4326
@shabadabadoo4326 Ай бұрын
i cant find these in the us :(
@kubac702
@kubac702 2 ай бұрын
The motherboard looks to be the same as in the aoostar R7
@JasonFowler
@JasonFowler 2 ай бұрын
yeah just sideways with a newer chip on it +2 bays. Which I always wanted. :D
@ChrisCebelenski
@ChrisCebelenski 2 ай бұрын
AAAAAahhhhOOOOO (ga) *. Seriously, what's with these brand names? Specs remind me of the Buffalo NAS's, and the specs aren't bad with also not bad default memory config. Looks solid middle of the road, but I'd have liked to see this come in closer to $400 retail. At the current price, it's going to have to compete with Synology and Ugreen. And 5GbE is sort of the middle child of network interfaces - I don't know anyone who bought into and stopped at 5GbE and you're going to plug this into a 10GbE switch anyway. So, meh overall, and I agree with you it's not exciting.
@Viking8888
@Viking8888 2 ай бұрын
Just curious if you’ve heard of the case headlined in this video? The JMCD 12S4 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5iqp6BpZc2derMsi=akPzOsb0HCM2Oh6C It only appears to be on TaoBao, but it is pretty interesting for sure. I’d love to see you get one in and build in it.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up bud. I'll look into it. Seems qwerky, but well built! I will say, I imagine that when it's fully populated and all guns blazing in operation - that thing must be louder than God with a bad cold!
@Viking8888
@Viking8888 2 ай бұрын
@@nascompares Glad I could maybe help you with some possible future content. I think those fans are 80mm, so ya they would probably be loud at full tilt! The fellow in the video did leave a link in the description for a variant that apparently supports a 360mm AIO for not a lot more dollars or pounds. That would definitely help with thermals and noise for sure.
@jcl6861
@jcl6861 2 ай бұрын
its actually on alibaba now as well. shipping to US is a lot more reasonable
@jcl6861
@jcl6861 2 ай бұрын
@@nascompares its on alibaba as well. in english
@jcl6861
@jcl6861 2 ай бұрын
I have it and it's the best 12 bay nas case on the market. extremely well built and very practical with great airflow
@omeryehezkely3096
@omeryehezkely3096 2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for their nvme nas...
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
Still TBC as F! BUT..I do have the 3x NVMe USB4 and Oculink box in the studio being reviewer. Neat little box!
@edhahaz
@edhahaz Ай бұрын
Yeah 10GBe is deal breaker at home, let me spend $2000 more for a synology
@sarreqteryx
@sarreqteryx Ай бұрын
oww-oh-star?
@СергейНазванов-я1ш
@СергейНазванов-я1ш 2 ай бұрын
Добрый день, на салазках для жестких дисков есть рычаг (черный сапог), куда упирается жесткий диск, если его поднять и надавить на диск, то он легко извлекается.
@DorothyGrant-c6w
@DorothyGrant-c6w Ай бұрын
Bethel Cliffs
@JarrodAbelman-y1d
@JarrodAbelman-y1d Ай бұрын
Nolan Causeway
@bonaventura_AKA_ben
@bonaventura_AKA_ben 2 ай бұрын
I’ve just come from a review of the new Terramaster 8 nvme mini nas. 10 gbe BUT nvme are Gen 3 x 1! Doh! Homer Headslap Doh! Now this. 2.5 gbe, but nvme gen 3 x 4. Again Homer Headslap! At this point these mfrs are doing burlesque, teasing us with ooh look I took off my scarf, what’s next boys? What’s next is we are tired of this shite Three years later, my OWC 4m2 with 4 nvmes and about 1500 mbs transfer rate and a Mac mini with TB and a 10gbe TB adapter is cheaper, faster, and you got an actual computer, FOR FREE!
@ccdd24
@ccdd24 2 ай бұрын
how many nas systems have horizontal harddrives.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 ай бұрын
V few! I think Drobo was the only one. Maybe Jonsbo n4, that's all I can think of tbh
@Nasguy-b7q
@Nasguy-b7q 2 ай бұрын
Very impressive hardware and price point...I'm probably in the minority here, but any NAS sourced in that country I stay way from. Don't trust them. As far as Synology goes they only have themselves to fear as they did what the competition could not do... Great review apu...
@sidbrun_
@sidbrun_ 2 ай бұрын
Have to agree actually. Not trusting Internet connected devices from these companies. People will be all like “but [western country] is spying on you too” but it’s more of a case of pick your poison. Not trusting terabytes of my data on one of these things. You saw what CrowdStrike did recently, let’s not give the Chinese any ideas once they start infiltrating millions of homes with cheap IoT tech.
@foufou81
@foufou81 2 ай бұрын
Backdoor and security concerns... ?😅
@cooperised
@cooperised Ай бұрын
At least you can (must?) install your own OS. Any backdoors would have to be at the hardware level. It's a pretty safe choice IMO.
@davejones538
@davejones538 2 ай бұрын
Hate them but dont eat them 🤣
@Frankvegastudio
@Frankvegastudio Ай бұрын
“Great video! Just a heads-up for everyone considering products from companies like Aoostar. While their tech is innovative and affordable, it’s important to be aware of potential security risks. Given the influence of the Chinese Communist Party over private companies, there are concerns about possible backdoors and data privacy issues. Make sure to research independent reviews, use robust security software, and keep your firmware updated. Stay safe and informed! 👍”
@MacAdamRory
@MacAdamRory Ай бұрын
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