Incredibly happy with how I played this set-- and even happier that my practice prior to Apex paid off. Shoutouts to Hungrybox for letting me have my moment and waiting for the handshake after I popped off
@JtCoronaOnTheMic9 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE MAN!!
@TrekWarlord9 жыл бұрын
dog u my favorite player
@TheDudeSmashTrash9 жыл бұрын
what a boss
@electromagneticlemon9 жыл бұрын
Kevin Toy Dude was that a jump from the edge at like 1:13?
@ysmwild9 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about his playstyle or his popoffs or whatever but Hbox is honestly one of the best sports when he loses
@DarkwingDuc9 жыл бұрын
a must-watch for every marth main in the world
@megansoberanis13899 жыл бұрын
Pll
@ToshiRolls6 жыл бұрын
And now Zains run at Shine 2018
@JavierPwns4 жыл бұрын
Ehh nah this marth is lame.
@DubYuhGChoppa3 жыл бұрын
@@JavierPwns Welp when you're playing against puff that's kinda the smartest way to be, especially for Marth. Imagine constantly approaching a character capable of consistently getting 0-deaths off one mistake in neutral on their opponent's end.
@nerdock47472 жыл бұрын
@@ToshiRolls PPU > Zain, easily.
@GR.9 жыл бұрын
As much as i love Hbox, PPU deserved this win, he played incredibly amazing. He earned that pop off.
@metalgamer219 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Dswwimmer9 жыл бұрын
I'm an HBox lover so a sad day for us PPU played amazing, well deserved indeed.
@mrtaxwell80999 жыл бұрын
Woah, what are the chances, the only 2 HBox fans in the world, come together to comment on a video. *Screenshot*
@Dswwimmer9 жыл бұрын
Tylor Maxwell +1
@megansoberanis13899 жыл бұрын
@timma_j8 жыл бұрын
When Toph says 'Yo' at 12:21 it syncs up with prog perfectly
@minis.15418 жыл бұрын
+LocksmithMusicUK LOL holy shit u have some good eye sight
@chrischan25557 жыл бұрын
He's reading Prog's line from the MIOM script.
@Meeeeeeeeeeees8 жыл бұрын
12:16 "Careless forward smashes will be WOAHHH HE GETS THAT TIPPERED FORWARD SMASH!!!!!"
@Seank78 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that wasn't careless that was guarunteed
@johnnyvu09459 жыл бұрын
apex 2015 was THE marth tournament
@AndrewRKenny Жыл бұрын
Unreal to watch this all these years later and see the future of this MU being defined real-time while Scar & Toph chronicle it.
@LunarySSF29 жыл бұрын
PewPewU must have trained for days to perfect pivot. That's something I've never seen before.
@benzed379 жыл бұрын
Right? I had heard of the forward throw into perfect pivot, but down throw? This young man has given me new hope for marth vs puff as a marth main.
@brandonhatfield14459 жыл бұрын
Arashi Kariudo You both need to check the kadano threads. Plenty of marths are doing this.
@brandonhatfield14459 жыл бұрын
Kadano threads yo.
@wegotfamily34399 жыл бұрын
Arashi Kariudo THIS MA BABY BENNY 4 BENZEEEEE, BIG SHOUTOUT
@benzed379 жыл бұрын
Damn it Wendell lol
@DubYuhGChoppa3 жыл бұрын
PPU walked so Zain could run
@raghavpatel720 Жыл бұрын
or PewPewU walked so Kodorin could sprint
@kimcheeseller9 жыл бұрын
"I did not think there were Marths that really practiced that." Shoutouts to Arc, been doing this stuff since God knows when lol...
@KoAkaiTengami9 жыл бұрын
Pewpew did a really good job. Even though I think Hungrybox wasn't playing as good as he usually plays, I think part of it was due to Pewpew's ability to hinder Hbox's ability to crouch into rest or crouch into an up A or grab into rest. Hbox didn't have as much options as he usually does against most players. M2K could learn a thing or two from Pewpew. great job to both players.
@cloudunderscore79059 жыл бұрын
pewpews movement was amazing to watch.
@KoAkaiTengami9 жыл бұрын
Cloud Underscore and yet some people will ignore the amazing play by pewpew due to being hbox fanboys. Hbox is my personal favorite since I also main Jig, but I'd be an idiot to discredit pewpews amazing play and counter abilities.
@kimcheeseller9 жыл бұрын
SheepNoNeedForSleep Dang, fair objective analysis. What a sight for sore eyes lol.
@junkimchi9 жыл бұрын
No need to john for someone who's regarded a top 5 smash player Why would you discredit someone who played well by saying such things
@billpikax89 жыл бұрын
Cloud Underscore kevin was good. but other kevin's marth was even better.
@Rh1thmz9 жыл бұрын
God the commentary on this set is so prime TophScar commentary is back
@tonyluo83478 жыл бұрын
8:35 "How did he stop?" and then ppu made a video on it
@Madbutcher3059 жыл бұрын
Respect to Hbox for playing pretty amazing and for taking his loss like a champ, great to see Kevin succeed at this one.
@TerraceLuster9 жыл бұрын
Never in my life have I seen Marth versus Jigglypuff played so well on Marth's side. Incredibly inspiring to say the least.
@pokeman1234519 жыл бұрын
its because hbox was sitting.
@Trystaticus7 жыл бұрын
it's crazy that just last year, pivot fsmash was fringe technology and now it's something all the top Marths do. THis game is always getting better.
@theoverlord11039 жыл бұрын
The set I've been waiting for the most.
@Ribskinski9 жыл бұрын
That was the perfect ending to this set. The set is 1-1, it's all down to Game 3. First kill with the down throw pivot fsmash. Toph and Scar talks about how precise it is to hit as you have to read your opponent's DI to pull it off. PPU stars with a lead, but Hungrybox brings it back and takes the set to last stock. Scar says: "The rest piece is back on the board; the card has appeared. Careless forward smashes will be..." BOOM. DOWN-THROW PIVOT FSMASH. The practiced technical setup to end the set, fulfilling Scar's prophecy. Game!
@WTFate9 жыл бұрын
lmfao I put the video speed on 0.5 to watch that pivot smash and Toph and Scars commentary turned into the funniest drunk sounding commentary ever
@LaJ1269 жыл бұрын
Those back throws pivot fsmash tippers were UNREAL
@brandonhatfield14459 жыл бұрын
D-throw.
@LaJ1269 жыл бұрын
Brandon Hatfield True.
@stitchfaces9 жыл бұрын
The pivot f-smash is so sick. I remember talking to my friend about pivot f-smash out of grab about a month before Apex, wondering why NO Marths use it, and he didn't see the usefulness in practicing it. And then came PewPewU. Inspiration.
@raabidskate8 жыл бұрын
I love this match! Pewpewu's movement is insane! The neutral was great! and Scar and Toph's commentary was gold, one of my favorite matches to watch for sure.
@darienthomas62648 жыл бұрын
This is secretly the best set ever.
@strawhats1009 жыл бұрын
Such a pleasure watching Ktoy conquer this Match up.
@mewchimew9 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Sakurai doesn't make a separate game for competitiveness. They could use Melee's engine and add more characters, stages, etc
@shanghai90299 жыл бұрын
It would be an expensive undergoing but I would love to see that. Also Sakurai does not like the competitive scene unfortunately
@shadoninja8 жыл бұрын
+mewchimew Nintendo tried quite hard to keep Melee from ever becoming an ESport.
@PantherTrax8 жыл бұрын
+mewchimew From Nintendo's perspective, why would they ever do this? Melee is a hard game, and the average person finds it to be very frustrating - though these are for the same reasons that it makes a competitive game. As a company with shareholders who care about the bottom line, spending money for a game that is unlikely to sell well is a waste. But us smashers don't care about that
@Dankyjrthethird8 жыл бұрын
he would probably ruin it. melee as it is has a unique magic that can never be replicated
@Lawtubes9 жыл бұрын
12:26 reminds me of the supa hot fire freestyle reaction face lmaooo
@kofe879 жыл бұрын
Finally, this video is up
@acefaaace9 жыл бұрын
Damn PewPewU is hella improving. But it sucks he had to play PPMD at both Apex and Evo leaving him right out of top 8 with 9th place.
@Baku698959 жыл бұрын
He was actually disqualified
@strawhats1009 жыл бұрын
Allmywhat umm...no he wasn't he lost to KK in losers and got 9th. You must be referring to teams where he and sfat got DQ'd and as a result had to start from losers bracket where they eventually lost to Leffen and ice after they(pewfat) were up 2-0.
@Baku698959 жыл бұрын
strawhats100 Then where's that video? I was on twitter during the tournament and he said he was disqualified for a miscommunication with the TO's. He went to take a shower and missed his match. He moped for like half an hour over it.
@TNTYeti9 жыл бұрын
Allmywhat no he lost to KK in losers.That match was on a different stream
@strawhats1009 жыл бұрын
Allmywhat Search Thom Zang: PewPewU vs KirbyKaze
@MegaManKenta6 жыл бұрын
Who else here after shine?
@NickGore-rf2dd2 жыл бұрын
I was tripping really hard watching this and "mike haze" sounded like "my kids" and I thought I was watching a totally different type of video for a minute, really destroyed my omniverse for a moment there
@danielwarren31386 ай бұрын
Wtf
@TalonKabayama979 жыл бұрын
those pivot tipper Fsmashes were gawdlike
@johnnycrash48924 жыл бұрын
This tourney was so anime for pewpew
@michaeldinh24497 жыл бұрын
My first upset I watched live, very iconic
@treehann6 жыл бұрын
I miss these days
@TheDudeSmashTrash9 жыл бұрын
Kevin's movement was so beautiful in this set
@sagaramin7 жыл бұрын
That last pivot tipper to get the win was disgusting. #Throwback
@2saint9 жыл бұрын
"No di" it was tipper on puff what would di even do
@itsacrocidile8 жыл бұрын
if you beat hbox while he's sitting it doesn't count, sorry kevin
@Burlux29 жыл бұрын
1 word to describe melee. Opportunity.
@inokentertainmentemail21059 жыл бұрын
Should've watched this before playing Hungrybox on Netplay today xD.
@intheband0027 жыл бұрын
What's funny is this highly improbable win had a huge impact on PP winning the tourney. Not sure he would've been able to beat Hbox with how his Falco was playing.
@IAmtheBallrus9 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this. Those pivots, my god.
@tellhybrid9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pewpewu for shutting up all Marth mains who cry, and make excuses about Jiggz.
@satchelsguitarshop9 жыл бұрын
Best set of Apex.
@Berble219 жыл бұрын
his pivots are fucking amazing
@WafflesOWNz9 жыл бұрын
PPU just keeps out-reading H-box, seeing those crouches coming and keeping up the pressure.
@nh665328 жыл бұрын
That pound hitbox 1:34
@ryancoleandthepapersouls36599 жыл бұрын
Sick set by Kevin Toy! What was Toph about to say about him "kinda" beating Mango?
@wizardgeno9 жыл бұрын
Press 1 if you feel bad for Hungrybox.
@bupegasus9 жыл бұрын
Nope, that PewPewU baebee
@billpikax89 жыл бұрын
Hungrybox still outplaced pewpewu and had a great loser's run. I don't feel bad.
@btubbs001239 жыл бұрын
11 likes.
@rxthezealot9 жыл бұрын
Man as much as I love Hungrybox, PewPewU totally deserved this win. He played beautifully. Press 2 to give props to PPU.
@fetchyryu8 жыл бұрын
+wizardgeno 2
@ASovietUnicorn6 жыл бұрын
Zain's beta form
@Saturi9 жыл бұрын
2:24 short hop down air, what are you doing bro? Cmon PewPewU.
@LordofMangoes9 жыл бұрын
dat empty pivot wavedash jump cancel grab
@mnjones927 жыл бұрын
Has Hunbgrybox ever lost to another Marth on stream before? Besides SmashG0d on netplay of course.
@aoeu2565 жыл бұрын
If Mew2King sticked to Marth instead of also playing Fox & Shiekh, I bet he could have beaten Mango more in his puff prime, and HungryBox with Marth.
@ProlificPops9 жыл бұрын
12:26 LMAO
@Vextos9 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad PewPewU won, the way Hbox plays Jiggly is so lame and frustrating.
@chapn79 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@gf3tw9 жыл бұрын
That's not true though.
@kempessfa19469 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's lame, but it's definitely boring.
@benzed379 жыл бұрын
Kempes SFA Drymango I don't know, I have to side with Jim Morrison considering that that's really an opinion. Like, you can't say that's right or wrong really.
@Cancer987659 жыл бұрын
I actually find the way he plays puff to be more aggro than people believe. If she didn't get knocked halfway across the stage from a tap and had any sort of fall speed her matches would end way faster the way he plays. Regardless, it's a different style of melee that I also love seeing now, because I understand what the players are doing. When I didn't I hated Samus, Peach, and Puff. I still don't like Samus besides Plup though.
@GDT1124 Жыл бұрын
people just love to see Juan lose. they always talk about how good the competitor is doing and people are cheer the opposition
@GDT1124 Жыл бұрын
not trying to say that pewpewu isnt playing amazingly, just something ive noticed over the years. doesnt make sense to me. its never "wow hbox is playing so good!"
@chairwood10 ай бұрын
u can make that argument for other sets maybe but wtf u talking about here. Pewpewu came with new incredibly hard tech and beat a god of the game. obv ppl r gonna b excited for him accomplishing that!
@tonyhawksunderground23 жыл бұрын
Feels good man
@eldizo_9 жыл бұрын
My impressions of PewPewU were of an ok Marth, nothing special, but he definitely stepped it up this match. I'm looking forward to future matches.
@1drizzt10259 жыл бұрын
PPU has been the best Marth solo main for a while now, 3rd Marth in the world behind PPMD and M2K
@eldizo_9 жыл бұрын
Pandaphilophobe That's the thing, I wasn't really that impressed when guys like PP and m2k are around, but that's bad on my part.
@KashiwaDaisuke8 жыл бұрын
+Borikuaedu3991 PPU is the most technical/flashy Marth, moreso than PP and m2k. His fundamentals are just a step behind.
@alexelliott85099 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I think M2K should just play Marth against Puff from now on. He already did well against Hbox at Smash The Record
@devdy12549 жыл бұрын
Pewpew is named Kevin...Kevin is from Germ Gramps...Germ Gramps has 2 million subs...There is only one Kevin...2 plus one is 3...Can you guess?
@nickrulez8097659 жыл бұрын
Illuminati confirmed?
@downbad4urdad8 жыл бұрын
YO Kevin is the king of pivot fsmash, C'mon Toph! Lol
@strawhats1008 жыл бұрын
that would b Arc, however ktoy validated it's usage against a top level player that has a history of absolutely abusing marths
@ulinkcl64232 жыл бұрын
gano con marth, que dificil...
@realmofmadness34735 жыл бұрын
I miss when HBox was the worst of the gods, Melee was actually watchable back then...
@Sykewanwan9 жыл бұрын
I feel like hbox would win in a bo5, much easier to play this matchup from the jiggs side compared to the perfect spacing and patience needed from marth.
@cookster699 жыл бұрын
Idk why everyone is so amazed by pivot fsmashes.
@mrmarvelmilitant9 жыл бұрын
Sooo u can do them too?
@cookster699 жыл бұрын
marvelakajka Yes..?
@glenhoerner88379 жыл бұрын
TheCookieCrusader It's probably more because PewPewU out spaced the spacing master with tippers almost every time
@bsol5109 жыл бұрын
It's a one frame input
@DGDfan139 жыл бұрын
GATTTTTTTTTTTT DAMMMMMMM
@gman60499 жыл бұрын
GO PEWPEWU!
@Slashtap4 жыл бұрын
wtf CLEAN pivot
@MrTacticalinuit8 жыл бұрын
So m2k could go marth vs hbox?
@Zabble9299 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah PPU
@ignaciolopez-fu4mo7 жыл бұрын
the f-smash in 12:17 was a pivot ?
@amoria48477 жыл бұрын
yes
@icebear67579 жыл бұрын
PPU is soo good
@strawhats1008 жыл бұрын
small nitpick...3:15 ppu could've close that stock out with an up OoS
@strawhats1008 жыл бұрын
upb*...to punish the pound
@scarpiasp24728 жыл бұрын
The games don't go to 3?
@Baku698958 жыл бұрын
+Sam Darby Only finals are best of 5. This was best of 3.
@thomas.lee223 жыл бұрын
Bay Area reppin
@ENTERTAINMENTSERVICE4 жыл бұрын
sicko mode
@varius4568 жыл бұрын
sets like this make me wonder why m2k (whos probably the best marth) opts for fox against hungrybox. marth has such a great counter to jig's bs hitboxes with his own more bs hitboxes lol.
@noahtwigg18858 жыл бұрын
fox is better against puff. as close as this was, if you look at what is happening nowadays with hbox vs marths, fox has a better shot due to his up throw up air and up smash
@TiMSKiii7 жыл бұрын
it's melee. technically speaking fox is just simply better. and you know m2k always gotta go for the "best" option even if it might not actually be the best
@HoXanna7 жыл бұрын
arguably best marth, but id argue PPMD is better in every mu except vs spacies
@BotanVal7 жыл бұрын
the kill setups that pewpewu did are near impossible. two of his kills were pivot f-smashes which are one frame inputs, and it's just simply easier when any one of foxes moves could kill jigglypuff.
@maorlivni64504 жыл бұрын
8:55 scar and toph talking about how hard pivot tipper is... see zain in 2020 fools :)
@ShowMeYaMovez Жыл бұрын
This was in 2015..
@tellhybrid9 жыл бұрын
"50/50" is a really inaccurate way of describing anything in Melee just saying.
@HRM94259 жыл бұрын
Well Mew2king has said on stream that a big part of Melee comes down to 50/50.
@tellhybrid9 жыл бұрын
If you're isolating one specific situation then maybe, but realistically there are always multiple situations in Melee simultaneously. Mew2king lets his personal feelings get in the way of information, who dosen't know this by now, he probably says that to justify his loss.
@HRM94259 жыл бұрын
Yes there are, but when you are going to break it down and explain these situations a lot of them do come down to 50/50's. M2K in no way was trying to justify any loss. It was a random stream of him just trying to teach viewers. Sure his emotions get the best of him, but in a case like this where he is just explaining his understanding of the game, I don't think that's what happened
@tellhybrid9 жыл бұрын
Limiting any situation in Melee to two possibilities is false lol flat. That implies each player has one option, or one player has two, this is never the case lol. In Sheiks UpB alone she has hundreds of different possible angles for example.
@tellhybrid9 жыл бұрын
Of course it seems like a 50/50 to a closed mind after all ready examining the outcome.
@800blake9 жыл бұрын
kids good. but that name, its just gotta go
@XanderRcage9 жыл бұрын
GTFO HBOX OMG!!!!!!skill vs a character who doesn even need wave dashing or l canceling just a concept of understanding juggles witha crazy hit distance and a fuckin 2 hit KO combo
@XanderRcage9 жыл бұрын
hbox and most jiggly players are a fuckin gimmick in this high level play they are banking on a broken character that their whole fight strategy is clearly an expertise of an ssbm exploit..........just watch 2 jigglys play and you see the most mundane chicken footsies where patience out weighs skill and talent
@benzed379 жыл бұрын
Patience is arguably the most valuable skill in this game, they aren't mutually exclusive.
@nickrulez8097659 жыл бұрын
you're right because the same can't be said of fox, falco, peach, sheik, captain falcon, and the ice climbers.
@Cancer987659 жыл бұрын
Cough *Shine* Cough. JC shine gimmick cough. There's an absurd amount of mental skill/spacing/talent/reaction involved with Puff or there'd be more than 1 notable puff in the entire world (Mango/M2K aside). It's just a different talent than spacie tech.
@billpikax89 жыл бұрын
patience is a talent in iteself. you sound like scar from 5 years ago.
@Dswwimmer9 жыл бұрын
You would have been the one that called mango a gimmick back in the day too. What a shame you can't even tell what talent is
@starbloom8807 Жыл бұрын
back here again after the Zain HBox SSC grands, for the OG
@lezzei9 ай бұрын
crazy how this set singlehandedly changed the marth puff MU
@danielwarren31386 ай бұрын
@@lezzeiit should have but it took years for anyone to repeat this