APOLLO 18 ANALYSIS - The Rock Lobster Monster of | Why Moon Crabs Definitely Don't Exist

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thank you guys for watching! If you didn't know I am now dunking on absolutely stupid medical tweets on the Croatoan Channel, theres a link at the end of this video if you want to go check that out!

[@kingshadow8782]

Cool

[@kingshadow8782]

Good work Roanoke Gaming.

[@madman3079]

SPACE HERPES SURE DOES EXIST THOUGH 🤣

[@HashknightGaming]

AMERICA! YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT! ⚘

[@xenon9050]

Roanoke pls react to Sweet home

[@D-Skotes]

"Moon crabs definitely don't exist." Sounds like something someone who doesn't want us to know that moon crabs exist would say.

[@DeathSithe92]

It's because mooncrab meat is the sweetest and he wants to keep it all for himself.

[@Confused7675]

@@DeathSithe92 I’ve had some, it has a bit of tang to it

[@francisharkins]

@@Confused7675 Yeah its like getting Crab Rangoon. To much Moon not enough Crab.

[@DadPharoah]

Moon Crab Propaganda

[@salted6422]

I'm suddenly getting a whole lot of moon crab vibes from Roanoke.. And I'm feeling very orthodox today... *TOSS THE MOON CRAB LOVER INTO BONFIRE AND LET HIM BE PURIFIED - EARTH CRAB GOD DEMANDS IT!*

[@thedango6890]

Camouflage is not entirely indicitive of a prey animal, many predators use the same tactic for hunting. Hiding is great for both predator and prey.

[@francisharkins]

Insert the Bobit worm or Antlion for example.

[@macnzee7572]

Heck the easiest example of this are big cats like tigers

[@brodythomas7176]

@@macnzee7572 Jaguars and leopards were my first thought

[@Naptosis]

@@macnzee7572 Yep, even smaller cats too; my jet black cat Señor Squeaks Esquire The First, is a void of death at night. He's totally invisible apart from amber flashes from his eyes. It must be like being hunted by the Alien™ to be his prey.

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

Indeed, just look at any human predator, you usually don't know if they're a menace till it's too late

[@BigHailFan]

Slight correction: Spartans DO have night vision available, as well as infrared and thermal vision. They can change the visor mode with a specific motion of their head. You just never do this in game because it never gets that dark, whereas most of ODST was at night.

[@alwaysaloneforever97]

Spartans in reach had night vision.

[@BigHailFan]

@@alwaysaloneforever97 thats right!

[@zavalasshampoo9911]

was just about to comment this lmao, beat me to the punch 🤣

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

They actually don't even need to do a specific motion with their head. It's just activated by thinking about it, essentially, because their suits are linked to their nervous systems through neural implants.

[@lornbaker1083]

I thought master chief's helmet just automatically adjusted all light in an area to become Similar to daytime, Which would explain why the earlier games felt kinda jank you were looking at it through A helmet visor trying to adjust everything for it to look at least slightly normal and natural for the human eye to respond. But that's just How I thought it worked back when I was a kid. I always figured the O DST had like your basic concept of night vision gear but the Spartans were the ones who had like automatic adjusting. Visors that could make any place that they enter look as bright as daytime even A dark cave.

[@okami6399]

Back in middle school I remember first seeing the trailer to this movie and thinking “yeah that’s going to be terrible”. A year or so later one of my classmates mentioned that he just watched it, I asked him what the monster was supposed to be since they didn’t show it in the trailers I watched. I will never forget his response: “Mother. Fucking. Space. Crabs.” It was in an art class so he spent the rest of the period just doodling Mr. Krabs on the moon. Good times. Good times. I hope he’s doing well now, last I heard he was going to college to be a physical therapist.

[@CRC-1904]

😂

[@TheArachnidCompany]

That kids a legend in my eyes

[@spacedaddycereal73]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Lh0000]

“AGAGAGAGAGAGA, SpongeBob me boy I’ve conquered the moon!”

[@jaimevalencia6271]

Well the movie was shit but it was also just ok lol

[@CRC-1904]

My personal theory is that the actual moon itself in this movie, is a living, breathing, lovecraftian-esque creature. Which has been dormant for (who-knows how many) thousands of years, until recently when humans started to physically go there and walk on its surface. That would explain how there’s life up there in the first place, why none of the other Apollo missions encountered anything up until #18, and would entail that these rock creatures are essentially this things equivalent of white blood cells. Attacking and destroying anything that its immune system interprets as a foreign body or virus (which in this case, would be the crew of Apollo 18).

[@marquiseperkins5878]

That’s an insanely cool theory! It kind of reminds me of a Bretheren Moon from Dead Space, give or take a few details

[@rozu7772]

I'm getting Local 58 flashbacks.

[@HarryJCLK]

You can literally say the same thing about the Earth itself

[@zippyparakeet1074]

@@HarryJCLK That's what I was gonna say. What if the moon is a lovecraftian prey entity and the Earth is a lovercraftian super-predator, preying on other planets using the ultimate toxin/virus it has developed- humanity. But the thing is, in a wicked twist of fate, this super toxin/virus that it developed is not just lethal to other celestial bodies but also to itself which is why it's so eager to get rid of them by transferring them to others (natural disasters pushing humanity to look to the stars).

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

I mean. If you look at some images of satellites and and landers we've built they do share an uncanny resemblance to what viruses look like.

[@barneymiller7894]

The whole active hunting vs misunderstanding thing has always intrigued me, it could lead to some huge misunderstandings. Imagine a alien species starts slaughtering humans, and when we finally figure out how to communicate with them they're like "Killing, what's killing?" "OH NOOO, WEVE BEEN DOING THAT TO YOU!?! WE DIDNT KNOW! THATS HOW WE SAY HELLO!"

[@richardarriaga6271]

Plot of Ender's Game

[@barneymiller7894]

@@richardarriaga6271 Good book lol

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

In _The Long Earth_ there was an Earth in a parallel universe inhabited by a living ocean whose hivemind absorbed the consciousness of all the lifeforms who felt into it. The organism was intelligent but his evolution was so different from us that it didn't understood the concept of "death", after all, both the atoms and the memories of the beings it "ate" still existed inside it, from its perspective, there was nothing wrong with a permanent loss of individuality

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

Is a very random example, but the orks in _Warhammer 40k_ need to die to reproduce, so death and violence aren't a big deal for them

[@barneymiller7894]

@@Mario_Angel_Medina Both excellent examples

[@THINKMACHINE]

An alternate take on the venom is that the crab's shell is constructed from compounds that are toxic to humans. Dust shed from it from abrasion, or maybe molting, when introduced into the human body reacts chemically with water, exchanging those compounds for oxygen, causing local necrosis and an intense bout of hypoxia (especially when absorbed by inhalation). Repeated exposure leads to brain damage/insanity and widespread necrosis, which is eventually lethal.

[@CERTIFIEDBABEWRANGLER]

Yo this guy READS BOOKS THATS WHATS UP

[@anthonytonythegeek5561]

That makes sense

[@ulquiorra2520]

Well maybe that seems very true. But also the rock monster laid eggs in him tho?? Cause at the end. There was a bunch of spiders in his suit. So that's also a add on. But yes I definitely think that he got contamination from outside space

[@binman9146]

yea i assumed it was lead poisoning cos having lead/lead compounds in the shell woud protect it from radiation pretty good

[@lunathesylveon2250]

I agree, it definitely seems more like a necrotoxin/metal poisoning type of situation. Hence why the veins leading away from the wound were turning black (common sign of kecrosis)

[@jimmy2k4o]

“Our flag has been blasted with radiation these last 53 years” Actually the Apollo 11 flag was destroyed by the exhaust from the LEM ascent engine. It was a running joke among astronauts that Neil and Buzz screwed up and put the flag too close to the LEM. Or that the mission planners screwed up by not predicting this and instructing the astronauts to place the flag a safe distance away. Was an opportunity for Apollo 12 LEM crew to brag about something and mock their friends from Apollo 11. The flags from apollos 12,14,15,16,17 should still be standing even if radiation has bleached them to the point, it looks like France got there first.

[@jesseallen3109]

aah..that's news I didn't know about.. Also that end joke.. haha.. thought the same thing. Just think.. aliens will come across the moon and see all those white flags and be like "wel, the species that got here must have sucked real hard that they kept going to space to their closest neighboor, and then planted a "i surrender" flag on it. Let's see if they still exist down on the planet and conquer them.. should be easy right? *points at fallen skies, Halo, and independence day* Or not.

[@bobtheturtle7701]

I mean a white flag could mean something else to them. Like an insult, greeting, or some random thing I can't predict.

[@Goldenkitten1]

@@jesseallen3109 Preeeeeeety sure any species technologically evolved enough to make it to Earth would understand the effects of solar radiation on cloth...

[@Bosef88]

It's funny how history is. A country goes from nearly conquering all of Europe, establishing a colonial empire second only to Britain, and went toe to toe with Germany in WWI. Yes, I realize France had it's Entente allies on it's soil to help, but that is only true for the US in the last year and the bloodiest, largest operations on the Western front were contested between just said country and Germany and gave them hell to pay for stepping through their front door without knocking. Then, twenty two years later an angry, puffy Austrian that never learned the preschool wisdom that all people experience the same human condition, invades and uses shock attacks mixed with a mobile doctrine to flank the strongest of their forces and cut through to take their capital and have a handful of government officials cowardly seal it's fate by surrendering the entire country and turning into a collaborationist government that used their best military assets not to combat the Nazi Occupation, but to send to North Africa to fight the Allies under the Vichy banner. Also, the five year period of guerilla tactics and civilian saboteurs that were a constant, resource draining migraine eventually were given the chance to help Liberate their own capital and country. Yes, I understand the light-hearted tone of the joke and it's intention as just a harmless jab. But, as someone who has made history a focus of their very existence, I just have to convey that it's somewhat irresponsible to keep trying to ingrain a concept into the lexicon and viewpoint into our country that doesn't have a stellar track record for having average citizens that can even name simple aspects of their own nation's history or even the processes of it's government. It's just difficult to throw jokes like that around to an impressiobable populace who will grip the idea with conviction because apparently a large proportion of them rather keep reaffirming something they heard throughout their life and never bothered to spend 5 mins doing cursory research worthy of a middle school student.

[@jesseallen3109]

@@Goldenkitten1 ... d.. do you.. like not know what A JOKE is? I mean sheeet.. I even mentioned that it's how my idea for the joke went as i was playing off of Op's joke. Also The whole problem of the joke if you MUST break it down is that we are all assuming that another species would see lights/colors/objects/and other symbolism the way we do. Hence why it's a joke, even if it is the flimsiest joke ever. you shoulda gone with that route to be a total buzzkill boring cat.

[@shaneh1872]

Damn bungie really did tell us that the moon is haunted and we didn't listen. Now these rocks are everywhere. Also loving the destiny soundtrack in the background

[@Rata_rat_rat]

Shadowkeep be like: Destiny 2: Moon's Haunted Boogaloo

[@thelazygamer2195]

“Rock Lobster” is a hilariously accurate description of the creatures in this movie.

[@ramoth777]

Roam if you want to.

[@hydrodynamo6558]

Crustle looking ahh

[@mehcutcheon2401]

Iraq Lobster!! Time to listen to a Family Guy remix lmao!

[@dustinjones-v6p]

so mature not to do a Peter Griffin sound bite

[@lazyskeletonman7919]

Peter the Rock lobster is here

[@oucyan]

But what if the moon crabs are silicon based life? when the one was shattered by the hammer, it broke apart like a rock, not like an arthropod.

[@CleanupKrew7]

This is exactly what I thought. Would Silicon based life also have to initially evolve in H20 like Carbon base life?

[@alexandervelez9507]

the only issue is that oxygen would be extremely deadly to any silicone based life. as soon as the moon crabs entered a human body or even just inside their suits (which contained oxygen) they would immediately die and calcify. they’d have to be carbon based life forms in order for them to do everything we saw them do in the film.

[@thomascoolidge2161]

@@alexandervelez9507 can you explain where that comes from? I’ve never heard the concept that oxygen would be toxic to silicon based life.

[@cycloidcyclone4309]

@@thomascoolidge2161 Oxygen is also really toxic to carbon based life, when Cyanobacteria first used aerobic photosynthesis they caused at least 90% of all life on earth to go extinct.

[@steves578]

@@alexandervelez9507 the thing is, we have no idea what the hell silicon life would be like, the entire concept of silicon life is completely foreign to us and for good reason, saying oxygen will kill them is a bit absurd since its only theoretical they exist.

[@drewdavalos2746]

Here’s a fun fact, Roanoke. The reason that Spartans don’t have night vision on their armor is because during the Spartans augmentation process, their “natural” night vision was improved so much that they had no need for night vision functions in their helmet :)

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

Yeah, but stupid Bungie retconned tf outta that in Halo: Reach (along with the 30 other things that game retconned) and gave the Spartans night-vision in their visors. And people still think Bungie is a good company. Absurd.

[@notthisguyagain5908]

@@Eye_Of_Odin978 Uhm but halo reach Spartans are spartan 3s… known for less augments then previous spartan 2s so…

[@lildominator2953]

​@Agent Washington hey man just admit you don't pay attention to lore and move on

[@mrdevindean1]

That's what I've been saying. They literally have night vision bakes into they eyes so visors or helmets in general aren't required to see.

[@maximkusanagi]

About the Komodo Dragon, there is research done that shows they have a form of "venom" that works basically as a blood thinner but not a neurotoxin.

[@ithiusdomino]

searched specifically to see if someone else had mentioned this before saying it myself. Glad I wasn't the only "well actually" person on the topic.

[@zeropoint2594]

Also I heard that they have a bonelike Structure under their skin to protect them from bites of other Komodo Dragons which would crafting a spear and end one of them make pretty difficult

[@gajeel9798]

Its a hemotoxin

[@GunlessSnake]

@@zeropoint2594 Yep. For example, their skulls have so many bony osteoderms lining them that they essentially have built-in armour plated heads; it looks really cool when you get an x-ray of their skulls because almost the whole head's outline is bones.

[@fatalisblack7213]

As someone who works at a zoo and talks to the keepers as often as I can, I can confirm the the Komodo Dragon is Venomous.

[@milkmonstrosity]

Small correction: Komodo Dragons do have venom. Their bite may be filled with bacteria as well, but it was no more than the water and environment around them, which would make it practically harmless to the animals around them. They do have glands and it has been harvested.

[@magnuskallas]

Just wanted to say the same. Recent studies show their bite does release "venom" which works by not allowing blood to clot. In fact, for that reason, they are now studied for possible medical use, ironically.

[@HumanHamCube]

@@magnuskallas cool study!

[@ckEagle165]

Yep. I was going to say the same things, but you phrased it better than me. Just wanted to add to this though, an interesting thing is that the venomous fangs are actually on the bottom jaw, instead of the top jaw like most venomous animals.

[@magnetmountain33]

@@magnuskallas In this case And anticlotting agent is enough to cause animals to bleed out and or become infected by bacteria in the environment or in the critters mouth

[@magnuskallas]

@@magnetmountain33 Would be interesting to know. If you have noticed, in numerous komodo feasting videos the weaken prey is already covered in semi dried slimy blood. But while it is said bleeding cleanses the wound, it doesn't exactly apply for deep muscle wounds, so the bacteria would still enter the body. Weaking might be a combination of both.

[@brittanyreusser9696]

I watched a documentary back in the 2010s (don't remember the actual year) about Komodo Dragons. Turns out they actually do have venom! That was actually the reason the documentary was made. The person who discovered the venom glands, did so because he noticed that Komodo Dragon skulls had an unknown pit on the jaw. So he did his own research and found out that's were the venom glands are... Okay, beyond that I can't remember anything else, as it's been at least 10 years since I learned about it.

[@JawsOnYou67]

One thing to point out if that Komodo’s do in fact possess venom glands. They utilize venom and toxic bacteria in their mouths for a one two punch on prey items.

[@kennethsatria6607]

No no, there is no toxic bacteria at all they have very clean mouths alike to humans. Its all in the venom which prevents blood clotting, this kills small bodied prey and makes infections in things like Buffalo cause of their prefrence to wade in poop filled water.

[@timothyduffy8538]

@Kenneth Satria interesting. I had always heard in school that their bites were septic not venomous. Now I have updated information and thank you for sharing it. 😃

[@theslipknotlobster7794]

@@kennethsatria6607 Humans actually do have septic bites, we have a much wider dietary range than most animals, which means we have a wider variety of bacteria in our mouths. Staph infections are very common with human bites.

[@Raptorworld22]

@@kennethsatria6607 Humans do not have clean mouths, I don't know where the hell you got that from

[@kyleellis1825]

This was only common knowledge in 2012 and still not accepted by everyone. I can forgive Roanake for not knowing this one. I liked Komodos a little bit less when I learned it was just venom and not the last meal's bacteria(From my 3rd fav animal, to my 6th or 7th).

[@angeliabaird-miller8524]

"We're sailors on the moon. We carry a harpoon" Gotta love the Futurama reference.

[@maltardraco9555]

One of the other four people who got that reference.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Haha yes!

[@mgthatoneguy]

I'm four

[@solfireblaze9292]

There be five people

[@drewkroeker]

Fry: "That never happened!" Leela: "I don't see you with a fun-gineering degree!" lmao 😄

[@CallMeKes]

I like to think the moon crabs were actually a civilized race that became space faring. A ship crashed a long time ago on the moon. This small group of crabs, left in a strange place with limited options for communication, over time they sort of...de-evolved, for lack of a better word. This to say, they became more animalistic.

[@MakotoKamui]

5:51 - Since the vacuum of space or near-vacuum of the moon don't remove heat very well (vacuum being a great non-conductive insulator), I was always under the impression that overheating was more of a danger for spacesuits than cooling, at least when out in the sunshine. There's liquid cooling to keep you from overheating, and rechargeable batteries to keep you warm, so maybe the movie line was about how they weren't able to keep warm for a terribly long time in the dark cave areas.

[@assfuckerthejointpounder5834]

Honestly it seems a bit strange in a vacuum things with cool. Because the molecules would not be bumping into anything that they could then transfer their energy to besides the material the molecules are making. However this is probably explained by the fact that the temperature would probably be able to equalize a very quickly in a vacuum, and this would definitely make the material pretty cool unless all of the material was like hot or something, so hot that the molecules movement overrides the pull that the vacuums lack of pressure would exert on the material.

[@ptonpc]

@@assfuckerthejointpounder5834 It's much harder to get rid of heat. It's why the ISS and other human rated craft have radiators. The heat built up by life support systems has to be gotten rid of. Unlike the cliché of "Life support is failing, we're going to freeze" it would be "Life support is failing, we're going to cook" (Think of a good thermos flask) In orbit, the suits have to protect against huge fluctuations in temperature.

[@jeffumbach]

@@ptonpc yes, the insulation of the suit is also protecting from that in vacuum when you move around parts of your body getting sunlight are getting heated way more than other parts as without air around you to even out temperatures it would play havoc with your body.

[@ptonpc]

@@jeffumbach Yep. People don't seem to realise that space stuff is hard. Space has lots of ways to kill you and mess up your stuff.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

@Jesse Mathis Yup. In a vacuum, there's no atoms to dissipate the heat.

[@thisaccountnameiscompletel8949]

Hey Roanoke, I know it’s a weird one but have you ever considered looking at some of the Aliens from XCOM? There’s a decent bit of lore surrounding them and I’d be interested in your take on the physiology of something like the Chryssalid.

[@kitchenninja1788]

MY GOD YESS! he should do that.

[@lardass9532]

The Chryssalids... PTSD flashbacks man.

[@silentphotographer117]

...I just had s squad get wiped by them lol

[@alexmullins1765]

Roanoke should definitely do XCOM aliens! There's plenty of them!

[@kabob0077]

@@lardass9532 Remember, if a Chryssalid is in the area there's no such thing as "collateral damage" when dealing with them. Lore Wise, I say it's completely justified to just fire bomb a town that's been infested by the things.

[@Admiralkirk95]

I have this movie, there's actually five endings to the movie at the part where the crabs begin attacking him. Mostly it all ends the same though. One has the russian module not have enough fuel and it coems crashing down, another(Which I believe my movie ends with) is that he just pilots it wrong(likely due to infection and exhaustion) and collides with the lunar module. One russian craft run out of air I think so he once again flies into the module. I can't remember them all but ya they filmed multiple endings and they went with the attack one cause it removes the third guy and lets us see the crabs in a clear way for a second.

[@extraordinarilyordinarygam6935]

Damn, the fear of isolation and Space Many Legs, it’s horrible It’s really interesting about organisms that could survive in a vacuum

[@looksirdroids9134]

Humans can survive in a vacuum too, I bet you didn't know that. Not for very long though.

[@extraordinarilyordinarygam6935]

@@looksirdroids9134 as in survive for longer than a short time, since the only organism we know of that can do that is Tardigrades

[@juan0808]

Another hypothesis regarding the poison. It could it be heavy metal poisoning from the spaces crabs shells. Maybe they gather metals to increase the protection of the shells and this metals leach into the body due to the presence of water. Heavy metal poisoning also produce a lot of neurological effects and it would explain why it take so much time to act.

[@Scudboy17]

an accelerated mercury poisoning sounds entirely plausible.

[@sleepyj9123]

I was thinking along the same lines, but rather than heavy metals, what about silicate. The moon is covered in silicate dust that is so incredibly fine that blood could likely circulate it with no issues, and unlike silica here on earth, the silica on the moon undergoes virtually no erosion, leaving it horribly sharp on all surfaces. These super fine particles would cause massive damage to all internal systems as it gets circulated throughout the human body, internal hemorrhaging on a scale that large but still being relatively slow would start sending the brain into bouts of shock and paranoia as it tries to figure out why the entire body is dying around it from what appears to be a "flesh wound" rationalizing it as a continued assault rather than a consequence of a seemingly "resolved" assault. This would likely explain his violent reaction to his partner as he likely now believes that his partner is trying to kill him yet he rationally can't figure out why so it devolves into a distrust of everything around him, and after finding out that the rocks are alive, that train of thought just takes off and we get the character in the movie.

[@BeefMeisterSupreme]

@@sleepyj9123 the problem with this is that diamond dust behaves similarly and no one went schizo from being poisoned by it

[@sleepyj9123]

@@BeefMeisterSupreme that is fair, but I'm betting on this guy already being in a delicate mental state due to finding the cosmonaut and trying to unravel all the lies, while also being aware that the government is perfectly willing to "omit" details and casually "forget" people exist when they question things they don't like. The fact that the human body doesn't even recognize silica and just leaves it to do its own merry thing is just an explanation for how the infection would spread through his body, because if we're being honest, how are creatures from another planet, with an entirely different evolutionary path, going to produce venom that can directly attack our systems. This isn't an issue of "well snakes from Australia can still kill deer from North America" this is practically sentient space rock crabs who are very likely silica based lifeforms producing venom that can effectively attack a carbon DNA based lifeforms anatomy. Biologically this makes no sense, which is why I came to the conclusion that it was silica, and while the silica itself doesn't explain the paranoia, the setting fully does, the massive systemic shock would only put greater mental stresses on him allowing the setting and environment to do the rest of the work.

[@theexchipmunk]

Thats a good point. This really looks like heavy metal poisoning. The black veins, the mental decline. It would fit.

[@odd-eyesdragoon]

Mr. Krabs's vengeful family protecting the formula.

[@187mrsmith]

Who else randomly came across this channel one day now can't stop watching his video of the biology break downs an the overall movie reviews!

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

It was the tremors biology ones...it is the best rabbit hole since Kim Blandino.

[@sneakysneakyboi295]

I forgot which video brought me to this channel

[@justsomeguywithoutamustach5573]

Wolfenstein biology for me

[@icolby8700]

I love the breakdown of the venom of the crabs. But honestly when I saw the movie I figured the guys sickness was just from contact with an alien species. Kinda playing into the fears NASA had about the Apollo 11 crew contracting deseases from Moon rocks and dust. No antibodies on Earth are gonna help with Rock Crab flu.

[@themonsterbaby]

Rock crab flu wouldn't be able to get you sick either. That kind of evolution goes both ways. Even flu on earth has to constantly evolve to have an effect on us. Because it evolves, we develop antibodies, cycle repeats. That's why the flu shot is different every year. That's why covid vaccines get updated, not because of some stupid government conspiracy.

[@SeriusSim]

Ok to me it was implied that the gathering of samples (younglings) triggered the adults to go after the ship, sort of like in Jurassic Park 2. I noticed it's when the youngling inside the lander moves around (at night times) that the adults seem to "attack", like it was calling ro them, only exception being when they try to take off, at which point we can imagine the adults panicked.

[@SeriusSim]

I thought it made sense that adults would protect their younglings as each one is a big energy investment in such an harsh and arid environment.

[@nathannopants3157]

Instead of a slowly drying world, might i suggest an ice-shell world? They could have evolved the capability to survive in naked space by venturing up from cryo volcanoes and fissures in the ice. (Following and feeding on plants and other animals that had done the same)

[@loafofbread9400]

LOL 😛👎

[@ZettyLad]

@@loafofbread9400 Dumb comment

[@Chunkboi]

These things might have hitched a ride through interstellar space on a chunk of rock.

[@IcyCaress]

I actually weirdly enjoyed this movie when I watched it. It was slow, but not unpleasantly yknow?

[@LegioPanda]

Hey Icy! Never thought I'd find you here, love your videos bud, keep it up! And don't let IGP upload more Rounds videos before you 🤣

[@alaric_]

I liked it also. IF there had been more to select in the "semi-realistic space monster horror"-section then i might have turned it off before the end but seeing how Life, Apollo 18 and Europa Report are practicly the only ones, i had very little problems with the movie. Also, there is slow movie and then there is the original USSR Stalker-movie. I could not stay awake nor did my friend, we both fell asleep watching it and we were excited to watch it.

[@JoeMamasBestie]

I loved this movie too!!!! Such a good cover up story

[@skylarstarr3973]

I really like the mix of science and story lore you create. Keep doing the thing! It's great!

[@Diet07Coke]

tbh regardless of quality, I've always enjoyed the concept of this movie. Something about mixing the period of the Space Racce with horror just tickled my fancy, and I wish more people would explore it.

[@handlethisshitainttwitternigga]

This

[@MSW_Skule]

The game "Prey"(2017-8?) Has some space race based lore, but it's set in the future. The golden age of Space! is criminally underused.

[@sosaboi1352]

Space Racce

[@nootnootboot4591]

I cant remember if you've done this but i think hybrids from Jurassic World franchise would make a good video

[@GameTavern2224]

Honestly they are not that far of a cry in terms of physicality

[@RoanokeGaming]

I did consider explaining the enzymes from jurassic Park!

[@eonahive]

In all technicality, they're all hybrids, due to not having entirely pure DNA

[@captainremington5109]

Especially if he covers the Hybrids from Jurassic World Evolution.

[@kobayashi1194]

@@eonahive True. What makes the JW hybrids stand out is that they’re exclusively hybrids using the DNA of other dinosaurs as well as other animals

[@unknowns765]

"Death to America and tartar sauce." "Don't boil me. I'm still alive." "Iraq lobsters."

[@firestorm5371]

There is also a reason why we don't have a base on the moon the first is the cost of transporting stuff to it and that mechanism simply not survive very long because dust turns in to a deadly problem because it sticks to everything and damages moving parts through friction, it even starts to wear down space suits pretty quickly.

[@the_rose_garden01]

He talks about that in the beginning, about how the cost of going to the moon is too high to really be worth it at this point

[@rolandomontana1389]

Governors said that no one has a base on the oon because then a certain side might want to start claiming that are just like Antarctica, there's research places but no one claiming no are because it will cause problems with the rest.

[@sangun123]

@@rolandomontana1389 the moon is effectively useless for the foreseeable future, hundreds of years in the future perhaps it’ll be a platform to launch deep space missions but for now it’s an empty ball of dust

[@bcav712]

@@dixienormus-6916 my exact thought lmao

[@TheBayzent]

I wonder if the Ruskies had been the first ones to get there if we would have them, actually, sonce they were working on reusable rockets for the spaceships. Unfortunately it was America so most of the research money goes to figure out what the Moon's preferred pronouns are.

[@EliteArcanist]

This was pretty cool. Semi-realistic vacuum biology is something that fascinates me. I wonder if the moon crabs eat each other sometimes when they need some critical nutrients. It would explain why they still have predatory instincts. Anyway, awesome video!

[@donkalzone6671]

Would be a good way not to waste rare nutrients. But I think, such a predatory creature would be only one part of an whole ecosystem. A predator needs "prey" . A kind of "blob" could be the base of such ecosystem. A blob-thing that can "eat" rocks and/or radiation. These blobs could evolve into different forms and specialize. And because of a lag of enemies in the early stage of its history, some of this blobs-species could become really hugh and maybe become so big, that its blobForm/Body provides an inner pseudo-ecosystems for symbiotic and parasitic blob-creatures. And maybe, after millions of years of evolution, some of these blobs could have developed a kind of exoskeleton. Which would make a lot of other forms possible

[@TheDoggyGIR]

I mean for all we know there are many species of moon crabs, we just may not be able to tell unless we cut them open

[@itzybitzyspyder]

@@donkalzone6671 maybe they secrete an adhesive for rock to stick to them.

[@Goldenkitten1]

Entirely possible there may be more than one species up there regardless of where they're from. We only see the moon crabs but while whether they're prey/predators is up for debate it's possible there are colonies of whatever they feed on running around up there when not going all Paranormal Activity in SPAAAAAAAACE on some astronauts.

[@maxinehowland8246]

Don't the Sandworms in Dune feed on other younger sandworm larvae?

[@Zetiva]

Love the destiny music at 23:10 lol, nice touch

[@rinconusmc]

We were at the moon Everybody had matching helmets Somebody went out the airlock And there they saw a rock It wasn't a rock It was a rock lobster Rock lobster! Rock lobster! Rock lobster!

[@justsomeguywithoutamustach5573]

*Epic synth sounds proceed*

[@sardonicspartan9343]

Moon missions didn't suddenly stop. We had been to the moon over and over and weren't making any significant discoveries. Basically, the public became bored and has more pressing issues at home.

[@agrape2887]

That's actually really fair, watching the movie I hadn't considered they were hurting the animals with their equipment because i didn't really notice they could send and receive radio signals

[@Goldenkitten1]

But...that's...it's...I mean...what...the...*THAT'S THE PLOT!* Even if it's not the best movie literally every time something bad happens they're using the radio and you can hear the monsters OVER the radio when they try and use it.

[@ptonpc]

From what I recall of this film, the physical science was fairly accurate, that meant the bits where they had to stretch reality, was not as glaring. You could actually suspend belief a bit. For the most part, you only see what the known acknowledged cameras see. The bit where the three astronauts 'split up' was really done on the Apollo missions, two men went down, one man stayed in the command modules and yes, the astronauts did have trouble sleeping. They were attempting to follow the routine earth days while the Moon's day is much much longer. The suit not being rated for carter cold can also be forgiven, they are running on batteries, so the deep cold as found in an unlit crater could quickly drain the batteries.

[@MrChaplain]

"Crabs are the superior form of life, thanks for watching" IM DEAD 🤣

[@lukmailt]

"You're back early from moon." "Moon's haunted." "What!?" Grabs and cock a Shotgun. "Moon's haunted!" Procced to board a spaceship back to moon.

[@doomslayer6906]

loved this movie, it was my very first horror movie as a kid, im so happy you are covering these creepy space crawlies!

[@RoanokeGaming]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@doomslayer6906]

@@RoanokeGaming I in fact very much did! your explanations on these creatures is just fantastic, even a bit scary from how realistic ideas from modern day can be so well explained for a lil rock lobster such as these. Absolutely love your content ❤

[@princeofpokemon2934]

@@doomslayer6906 That was the worst horror movie I've ever seen!

[@Nyx_2142]

@@Mindyourbusiness6665 This just in, young people exist. More on that at 11.

[@assfuckerthejointpounder5834]

WIt, how old is this

[@Kernwadi]

"But, how did it make you... feel?" -Bilbo Baggins

[@Kernwadi]

Like a plastic bag.

[@ToastedKittenSun]

Like the one ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them, in the land of Mordor where the shadows lie

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

24:18 I used to think that his helmet and his head shattered because of the crabs inside or by some other outside factor so I rewatched the scene millions of times and I noticed that (a) there was a shadow coming towards him and (b) a giant crab can be seen pushing his body away and was probably what shattered his helmet Also, when they were in the crater, if you play the clip in reverse and forward for everytime they flash it you can see the rocks sort of shift a little. A very tiny detail in the movie.

[@LAUGHTAK]

You are right bro

[@jameswollschleger856]

" ..and if you don't believe we went to the moon then I'm sorry it's terminal." has to be my favorite quote iv ever heard from Roanoke

[@SparkleFoxMutt]

Roanoke dunking on conspiracy theorists/science deniers is the best part of KZbin tbh

[@GusCraft460]

There was actually a quarantine protocol in place for astronauts returning from the moon. The DOD and NASA would definitely not abandon an astronaut because they were infected. If anything, they bound be ecstatic about the discovery of life on the moon and the opportunity to study it. An infected astronaut would be a specimen of unprecedented scientific significance.

[@Panhemkaz]

Well theres a alternate ending in this movie when grey survived and dod was upset cuz grey didnt recover anderson body

[@ivanpetrov5255]

31:46 - "The Moon is just known for it's stellar safety record" - technically, that's true. The Moon has perfect safety record - 0 people have died on it's surface. As far as we know.

[@spiderboy-db5us]

As far as we know indeed

[@gamerjuaquin978floreshamad5]

Apollo 11, remember only 2 guys went back home alive...

[@misterfister7262]

False. There's a cosmonaut up there that crashed around the same time Apollo 11 landed.

[@teathesilkwing7616]

@@gamerjuaquin978floreshamad5what? Literally not true all 3 returned home safely

[@teathesilkwing7616]

@@misterfister7262 just a straight up lie. Where did you get that idea from

[@carloszestyboy2901]

@Roanoke Gaming serious question, have you ever thought about creating a fictional universe heavy in hard science? I feel like your knowledge of biology could definitely lead to a piece of art that a lot of viewers could appreciate. Im not sure of your personal capabilities as a writer but that sweet science could be a breathe of fresh air in a sci-fi/survival-horror genre of story.

[@brodiegibb9996]

this is nothing but facts

[@mook_butt8037]

Hard science fiction is pretty popular

[@housewilma4904]

@@mook_butt8037 most recently escially do to the booming popularity of works like ALL TOMMOROWS.

[@Kroggnagch]

I like to believe that the producers of this movie saw that reddit post where that person said something along the lines of "what if rocks are just soft until theyre touched and then they stiffen up?" and went "hmmmm...🤔"

[@krioswordsmith1017]

one quick note i was thinking while watching this, you mentioned they lived in an environment with a similar appearence to the moon, which is why they look like moon rocks. it seems more likely to me they build shells out of whatever material is around them, so if they were in a desert they may build it out of sand, or in a forest out of the soil there, because they are on the moon they are made of moon dust. so there shells don't look like rocks, they are rocks.

[@silverhawk8699]

So here's a question about these space crabs: *How well do they taste with butter? This is for the sake of scientific discussion of course*

[@ZacharyRojasMZ1]

Tell Cookie to melt the butter and break out the bibs. I want this lobster served up on a silver platter.

[@realhomieLou]

@@ZacharyRojasMZ1 right away sir

[@namegoeshere5220]

Here's another: would I still be allergic to it, or would I finally be able to know what shellfish tastes like without physical backlash?

[@sammyjaohnson5631]

The flavor is *out* *of* *this* *world*

[@Jman92854]

The only thing that ever puzzled me about the movie was that, the reason they went back to the moon after so many trips and landings was to set up these small devices on the Moon's surface they later discover are not to track ICBMs, as they were originally told, but to emit this strange, terrifying sounding signal that the one astronaut plays inside the lander. My question is, what was the purpose of this signal? Considering how it almost sounds like a recording of a monster or multiple monsters, and it was the source of interference they were experiencing when trying to communicate. I assumed the goal was for the rock crabs to hear this signal, and react to it while the cameras record how they react, or the devices would pick up their reaction after the Astronauts left, but surely the crew would be in danger depending on said reaction of these devices, as I believe they weren't initially sent to the Moon on a one-way trip, it was only when the one got infected that they refused to let them come back. Honestly I found the alternate endings more interesting, including one where they all made it back to Earth and the one in the orbiter was being interviewed by, I think a member of the DOD, and he was angry that his friends were basically fodder for the rock crabs, as they were going to use the aliens' venom as bioweapons.

[@coolgreenbug7551]

I love that these videos are always a mix of “From what we know about biology this is exactly how this would happen” and “Ehh it’s an alien so who knows how it does it”

[@Thunderlord_Tozn]

“We’re whalers on the moon! We carry a harpoon! But there ain’t no whales so we tell tall tales and sing a whaling tune!” Oh brother, the memories. Futurama was the greatest animated show of all time and no one can change my mind.

[@Bea-wb9uk]

28:10 Interesting information on the brain and infection. The blood brain barrier, infection, and psychosis.

[@SSPENGUIN1]

Instead of photosynthesis, could they be filter feeding they seem to revert to rock form when feeding (it was in rock form in that dude) they filter the needed minerals from moon dust, which has frozen water in it too. This could also explain the venom. The microbes are used to break down the minerals from moon dust into useable chemicals for the rock lobsters

[@BurritoM87]

Roanoke who ever is writing your script, whether it is you or someone else is brilliant! Thank you for doing this movie. I was always curious on how...space crabs/spiders existed on the moon. Also your scientific explanations ate gold good sir! Now...*distance thunder*....if you would so kindly...do The Relic!😈😋

[@RoanokeGaming]

I actually write them all myself so that is an awesome compliment, im glad you like them man :)

[@BurritoM87]

@@RoanokeGaming Heck yeah I like your content! You're one of my favorite KZbin channels.

[@1014p]

So what Roanoke is saying we need to go to the moon to replace the flag with a much bigger one and a monument to place at origin landing spot. This time the flag we take up improved to handle radiation issues. Also an easy trap is a dome that heats up. Put some water in it and wait. Then test out the durability of the living rocks and how hard it is to make a crater.

[@haydenkamplain4874]

Hey Roanoke, could you please do a video on a 2006 comdey/horror movie called Black Sheep. Its about genitically altered sheep that run around and kill people. Plus one bite from a sheep turns people into giant sheep/ human hybrids.

[@BlackRavenFeather565]

That sounds hysterical

[@caligocipher9036]

Omg, I never hear anyone talk about that movie. I have it on DVD! Gotta watch it again, shit's hysterical.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

@@BlackRavenFeather565 it IS hysterical. If you can find it, watch it.

[@henriquemesquita5692]

That scriptwriter had a very bad fever dream

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

@@henriquemesquita5692 Was it very bad? Or was it the greatest fever dream ever?

[@lopirobinson1991]

Dude, there is nothing more interesting than biology, physics and the like. And this is coming from an artist. It's so incredible, the structures of existence and their implications.

[@ΔΣΘ-ξ6τ]

I have a challenge. Make your own planet. Your own ecosystem, plant life, everything, but only use movie monsters.

[@jimmyseaver3647]

I guess I'm one of those four who know the words to that jaunty tune. "We're whalers on the moon~! We carry a harpoon! But there aren't no whales so we tell tall tales and sing a whaling tune~!"

[@Kimosabes2hot]

I don't know if anyone else has said this, but the discussion and plausible explanations behind the monsters in these videos are what I live for

[@NickyLunaLove]

Fun fact: we are going back to the moon! And we’re planning to stay!! The project is called Artemis which will be comprised of the construction of a new space station called the Lunar Gateway and ofc many many Lunar Excursion missions to follow the station’s construction

[@sui1162]

I didnt think of the aliens as "lobsters" so much as I thought they were more like hermit crabs. I have a hermit crab, and when I whatched the movie I legit thought the alien was a hermit crab.

[@dominiqueminor8039]

Space jellyfish are more likely to be a thing, first living creature on earth, simple biology and can live and thrive in extreme environments

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

That first minute made me laugh so much you get my like and comment even before I watch the rest.

[@ethal1222]

When Nate is infected and rambling, he's actually reciting part of a real speech written for the president as a contingency if the Apollo 11 astronauts had somehow ended up stranded on the moon...

[@Mick-hp4yg]

I saw this movie only once around the time it came out. During all of the camera shaking I never noticed the giant crabs in the distance. That was really creepy.

[@pudgyfolds2186]

i hope there's more movies in the future about weird shit on the moon. The thousands upon thousands of craters on the moon give possibility to all kinds of crazy ideas. The amount of exotic matter(unknown substances, not exotic matter like dark matter) that could actually be up there, having come from anywhere in the cosmos makes the moon a very interesting place imo. i think many answers could have answers in the craters of the moon where any number of remnants of different unknown worlds may remain. its not just a bunch of grey rocks and dusk. the moon might very well have more variety of alien matter from different solar systems even. considering the moon has no atmosphere, anything that crashed on the moon has the potential to still be there, having not burned up in the atmosphere. like most things that crash on earth

[@Dumbcrane]

Luna actually does have masses of water at the Poles (North and South). Not to mention the constant barrage of icey meteorites and asteroids could produce craters filled with pools of water, allowing for the creation and evolution of these creatures.

[@YunoGasai414]

Nothing evolves without an atmosphere, let alone oxygen.

[@TrueBladeSoul]

@@YunoGasai414 that we know of we do know there are things can survive without such they are just tiny

[@teathesilkwing7616]

Those pools would very quickly boil away, and the water on the poles is very, very cold ice. There are also none of the other big building blocks of life like an atmosphere, consistent energy source, a consistent magnetosphere, etc

[@FrostiKing]

Great video as always. I disagree on a few points though. I don't think the crab's have venom at all, I think its just foreign pathogen in the body, they could be building rock like shells around them so, moon dirt would probably work wonders on the body if inside of it, plus it's an alien lifeforms, who knows what their biology just produces passively. Also I think their home planet had less gravity than the moon itself, being in zero g seemed to really activate them, they seem downright lethargic on the moon reacting only to stimuli from the radio equipment, moving when necessary. I also think these creatures might be omnivorous in nature, I think due to their environment they are in a state of hibernation most of the time to conserve energy. That being said, I also think these things eat each other, since they would biologically have everything they need to survive and there isn't much selection on the moon. They really seemed to be confused by humans, they don't start eating right away, it seems they prefer us for warmth, or for egg laying (Which would be a very vile foreign pathogen in the body) But great stuff, I never considered the radio waves while watching it originally!

[@dr.sergeykutzofykock9720]

I saw this in theaters when it came out. Once I saw the crabs, I loudly said "Oh my god, it's crab people!" in a Mr Garrison south park voice. The entire theater erupted in laughter

[@CLNCJD94]

So we recently found out that Komodo Dragon’s DO have a venomous bite. While their mouths are filled with bacteria, they do secrete their own venom.

[@travytheparadox4158]

It’s also important to point out that Komodo dragons contain a blood anticoagulant that makes it easier to track its prey.

[@lukasgr4982]

I once learned in a documentary about extraterrestrial life that it was possible that silicon based life could exist and that these creatures would look like stones and that they could survive in environments that would be absolutely deadly for us maybe even on the moon

[@maxminton3693]

I’ve never understood the logic of why people believe that a silicon based life form will look like stone. We are carbon based lifeforms, do we look like diamonds?

[@SilentZieth]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the lunar crabs actually cannibalize each other as means of supplementing needed nutrition.

[@williamstephens7277]

"A few 'Ooga Doogas' will always work." I will now forever use that phrase.

[@LisaAnn777]

Space suits had to be cooled since vacuum is such a good insulator they would overheat from their body heat.

[@UGNAvalon]

You just made these crabs seem so much more interesting than in the movie itself! Now I want to see a “documentary” exploring the life cycle of these moon crabs in their natural environment, happily soaking up rays, snuggling with their mommas, & tweeting radio signals to each other, before giant space invaders come & abduct their babies & scream in bursts of radio to the sky.

[@bradymenting5120]

i swear to god it better be narrated by Morgan Freeman

[@UGNAvalon]

@@bradymenting5120 Or David Attenborough :D

[@concept5631]

​@@UGNAvalon David Attenborough: "These shits are scary." *smashes rock lob* "Fuck space. Stay on Earth."

[@thedoruk6324]

My recommendation ! *Lets goo!* In all honesty Apollo 18 is a seriously underrated movie just like Terminator IV was they were both quite entertaining and watchable This movie has the perfect combination of Space fear İsolation phobia and ironically arachnophobia ! and this is not even all of it the movie also contains conspiracies like a full package Although Pressure durable Arachnid Spider monsters on the Luna our own neighbourhood is a terrifying thing on its own whereas you cannot crush them! I wonder if there are any icy seas of lakes or mass cave systems on Luna akin to Europa Ganymede or Enceladus

[@RoanokeGaming]

I hope you enjoy it bro!

[@thedoruk6324]

@@RoanokeGaming Thank you ! I thorughly enjoy it ! Underrated and forgotten movies are a true gem!

[@_JackNapier]

The Crater scene where they all start popping up is nightmare fuel 😷

[@lavasharkandboygirl9716]

Hey Roanoke! Thanks for watching all the boring movies and finding the interesting bits for us to watch. Much love my man!

[@williamiotte1850]

anyone else moderately interested in the monsters from evolve and roanoke's take on their evolution and biology?

[@lockheedx33]

“Moon crabs don’t exist” Sounds like something a moon crab would say

[@deafnoisemarine6294]

Fun fact Roanoke: it turns out that Komodo Dragons do indeed have venom! They've got a complicated system of venom glands with a similarity to Gila Monsters. There was a whole study on it from the National Academy of Sciences. Pretty facinating stuff!

[@AidenRKrone]

This is one of the small handful of movies that I watched in an actual movie theatre. Even though the movie was disappointing, I have fond memories of the day itself. Also, the jumpscare where the American astronaut is flashing his camera and sees the emaciated Soviet astronaut without his helmet has stuck with me to this very day and is definitely one of the most terrifying scenes of all time.

[@merafirewing6591]

When I first watched the movie, it scared the crap out of me because those moon crabs remind me of spiders or at least the way they move.

[@guru187]

Hello Roanoke have you ever heard of a game called deep rock galactic. I’d love to hear your thoughts and theory’s about the creatures in that game. Love the content I’ve first found your channel with the necromorph video and I’ve been around ever since. Stay safe out there and be sure to have a great weekend.

[@hyperrustynail]

Rock and stone!

[@EternalWarHawk]

FOR KARL,

[@guru187]

ROCK. AND. STONE!

[@Thisuni1337]

FOR ROCK AND STONE!

[@punsenburner3152]

ROCK! AND! STOOONE!!

[@ChineseYerna]

That odst spartan line was golden Roanoke, I’ve always wondered the same, you would think that night vision would be better than headlights 😂😂if anything they should be swapped 😭😭

[@kabob0077]

Six, and probably Noble Team, all had night vision. It's like the Chief just wants a flashlight, at this point.

[@zealotking67]

This man is *the* super nerd and I am here to learn. Not only do we get a science lecture, we get Halo references and Destiny music in the background

[@RatTailSoup4]

hypothetically, a full white flag could be good as a sort of combined world nation thing. because if we ever do go further out into space it would save ink and would solve the problem of all white flags in space (THIS IS A JOKE)

[@scott_hunts]

Yeah but there’s no symbolism there, it’s boring and soulless.

[@RatTailSoup4]

@@scott_hunts I was more joking-

[@MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT]

The only way Humanity will be represented by a white flag is if we all become french.

[@Raccoooooooooon]

He just roasted another country

[@bobograndman]

Now days people can make flags that last longer. China basically planted a sheet of plastic on a metal rod up there so it wouldn’t deteriorate as quickly

[@Cuzko_Gaming]

Roanoke just opened this video thirsty for blood. Bro just sniping everyone.😂😂

[@leingodzelfer7227]

dude i love the fact that your a fellow mass effect fan and you make references now and then im actually listening to a bunch of your videos while i play andromeda which i enjoy and think was a good game and i will fight everybody on that lol

[@MrCamelBeans]

Quarian hips are the one thing that can reignite the space race.

[@RoanokeGaming]

My time has come 🤣

[@VangeistXIII]

@@RoanokeGaming and so will I

[@lavasharkandboygirl9716]

Rock Lobster is actually a song that family guy parodied with Iraq Lobster

[@SSName]

Don’t boil me~ I’m still alive!

[@hurtboychulo7371]

A Quiet Place prequel? Rock lifeforms possibly from a destroyed planet that evolved on to be able to survive a vacuum just to hurl through space and crash into earth?

[@MrGemHunter]

Would have lived if they remembered their harpoon, smh

[@RoanokeGaming]

I can get behind this sentiment 100% haha