JWs and LDS are Wrong About Jesus

In this segment from apologia radio James White (Author of the Forgotten Trinity) explains John 1, going into great detail about the deity of Christ and why this passage teaches absolutely that Jesus is God. This is vital to understanding of the Trinity. You can get more at apologiastudios.... Be sure to like, share, and comment on this video. #ApologiaStudios
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[@toddwilburn2988]

After watching this, I feel the need to repent...of envy! I LOVE Dr. White's Vest!!

[@thebarber2009]

🤣👍

[@andrewgraham6496]

Ah! Tricky James White is at it again, spinning half truths about JWs and Jesus being God! Years ago, I saw a debate between White and Greg Stafford, Stafford made mince meat out of White, as White wouldn't give straight answers and waffled his way out of the argument! Two points I remember was when Stafford asked him about John 1:1 and John 17:3 and White had no real answer! I think the video is still on KZbin somewhere, floating around!

[@cjfolsom]

Praise God for James White & Jeff Durbin! I have learned so much from these men and I am so thankful for what the Lord is doing in and through them! Soli Deo Gloria!

[@user-ym1qb2dj6g]

God is NOT a human being( there is nothing like God ) .. jesus is a human being .. God is the creator jesus is his CREATION .. where is your mind people .. smh kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZaTqKmCg62VbKM&list=LLpaJiP3Zde7GsYOEfQDoS_g&index=63

[@cjfolsom]

@@user-ym1qb2dj6g I encourage you to read God's Holy Word alone for understanding through the Old and New Testaments. Jesus has always been and always will be the Lord! Hebrews 13:8 says he was the same. Even just reading the gospels Jesus said he was God multiple times. John 17:5, John 8:58 are just two examples. Also this video James White speaks on John 1:1-3 how can you really argue that he is not God if you truly use the scriptures as your only authority? I'll pay the Lord changes your heart from stone to flesh and that you will repent of your sins and follow the true Christ who died for the sins of His sheep!

[@user-ym1qb2dj6g]

@@cjfolsom my friend .. God make the rules,not you or the church , NO ONE DIE FOR YOUR SINS , you will bear your own sins on the day of judgment, no soul will bear the sins of the other .. God is not jewish man , God is not human , God is not responsible for your sins but you'r and you are gonna bear it not him.. plz dont die worshiping a human .. ask God to guide you he will answer you ( ask him by your tongue, GOD are you jesus , i want to follow the truth ,guide me ) talk to God , dont follow what the church tells you .. plz plz plz ask God by your tongue

[@HellFireCobra]

How is Allah just in forgiving sin without having it dealt with it?

[@user-ym1qb2dj6g]

@@HellFireCobra kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6W0iKmCip1pgas ask your self .. why would a just God punish an innocent man for YOUR SINS ? .. YOUR SINS

[@lalo2641]

He prayed to someone,he was sent,he talk about someone and gave testimony of someone

[@88BuckMeister]

Duh 3 persons

[@lalo2641]

@@88BuckMeister you must be a triniterian

[@lalo2641]

To me, the teaching was with GOD it means Genesis

[@mlwilson2956]

You’d be shocked at how many evangelicals also deny the deity of Christ The church had failed to pass on basic theology. Just feel-good sermons about “loving” everyone

[@imagomonkei]

Good. This is one doctrine that should've been abandoned 501 years ago.

[@user-ym1qb2dj6g]

God is NOT a human being( there is nothing like God ) .. jesus is a human being .. God is the creator jesus is his CREATION .. where is your mind people kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZaTqKmCg62VbKM&list=LLpaJiP3Zde7GsYOEfQDoS_g&index=63

[@danielstraight4503]

@@user-ym1qb2dj6g DEUS VULT. Christ is God. Get over it.

[@user-ym1qb2dj6g]

@@danielstraight4503 Exalted God above what you ascribe to Him ( God is not jewish man , God is not human/Christ , God is not born nor is begotten , God is not responsible for your sins but you'r and you gonna bear it not him, God is ONE does not have son or partner) Get over it

[@TheFelix7045]

Jesus is GOD with him we can do anything!بنت اليوتيوب :P *أستغفر الله*

[@bryantgutierrez84]

I digging his vest..I'm starting to get jealous like Josephs Brothers..lol

[@thebarber2009]

🤣

[@LOWKEYDANGER]

Go check out Perry Stones shirts lol

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). I hope people pay close attention to the thorough and contextual exposition James White provided us with, on this simple scripture! James White's excellent talk, is in line with what the most knowledgeable scholars, who are highly experienced with the original ancient Biblical languages, have been saying all along! Watch out for cultic organizations, that try to distort John1:1, in an attempt to conform it to their false doctrines, or to try to lower God to a level that we limited human beings can fully comprehend!

[@williamhenley8593]

God said let US make man in our image

[@dleoburns]

LoveYourNeighbour: William Henley said, "Let us make man in our image." That is found at Genesis 1:26 ¶ "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." This scripture verse uses the word "us" indicating more than one maker. It uses the word "our" in "our likeness." This indicates the creation was done by more than one entity.

[@jelperew9786]

Love one another new commandment ..

[@johndavid9153]

I can make it more simple for you. The Word is Elohim. The name Elohim is plural in the original Hebrew/Hebraic language. The same language that Jesus/Yahshua spoke when He walked the earth as a man. And please show better respect to your Father when you address Him. His name isn't God. His name is Yahweh(YHWH). Did Joseph Smith even know or study Hebrew? No.

[@scottgrey2877]

@@williamhenley8593 Genesis 1:27 single person not three

[@CaligaRelinquo]

This is an excellent breakdown of the prologue in the Gospel of John.

[@scottgrey2877]

Jesus is not our creator

[@justinhemion6279]

@@scottgrey2877 ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM...and WITHOUT HIM was NOT anything made that was made ....think about it friend... then REPENT for your denial of Christ who SACRIFICED HIMSELF for the very SINS that YOU commit and have committed throughout your life thusfar!

[@scottgrey2877]

@@justinhemion6279 it was God who created all things not Jesus

[@justinhemion6279]

@@scottgrey2877 read a bible.... AFTER you ask God to guide you to the TRUTH! but do know that WITHOUT the Holy Spirit being put INTO YOUR VESSEL(body) and your ACTUAL "receiving" of that oh so Holy Spirit..you just like all others will be deceived unto death.

[@scottgrey2877]

@@justinhemion6279 you need study Unitarianism

[@estimatingonediscoveringthree]

We just started going to a church we thought was a great church with a decent youth presence and a great Sunday school for the whole family, even though it was an hour away. It was worth it. And then as of last week I heard in the teaching the concept that Jesus is not God. I asked a couple questions and was able to flush out an admittance. So disappointing!

[@LLBlackhawk-mc3sq]

Jesus told the Pharisees "If you don't believe that I AM you shall die in your sins. I AM THAT I AM is the same name given to Moses for the Children of Israel

[@tunefully1792]

Do one with SDA's.

[@dawidmichalski8339]

IESOUS is I AM !!!!

[@johnwestermark5649]

Scriptures, Greek and coogi.... Right on DR. White😁

[@thebarber2009]

😂👍

[@Sirach144]

Just because somebody speaks Greek doesn't mean they understand what's being said. We speak English for that doesn't mean we understand everything we read just because we can tell it's an adverb or a pronoun.

[@rosevirginiatasker8127]

I was having a conversation with a Mormon here on KZbin. He stop talking when I wasn't going to just answer all his various question. We were discussing John 1, and he didn't like when I keep going back to that. The Mormons need to really understand the Triune God, and once they understand their whole teaching of Joseph Smith fall apart.

[@thebarber2009]

Yes brother I hope God has mercy on them but Joseph smith really was a freemason

[@scottgrey2877]

@@thebarber2009 many Evangelist are Masons

[@hollayevladimiroff131]

NUMBER ONE, they do not believe in the true Jesus of the bible, this should make every Mormon run out of this religion and never look back!!

[@tomidomusic]

John 1:2 does not say "this one" it simply states the demonstrative pronoun "this". And I'm not a Mormon or JW; just looking at the word "houtos". His bookends are weak and nebulous at best.

[@jdubb6557]

GREAT video!

[@lalo2641]

John is badass

[@williamhenley8593]

Read the Hebrew version of Genesis. Eloheim is used in the creation story when it says let us make man in our image. In Hebrew “heim” is plural and this clearly suggests that the Father and the Son are two separate, distinct beings

[@williamhenley8593]

+TaDikin Read Psalms 86 and you will see that God is a God among others. I know you will bring up Isiah 43:10 or Isiah 44:6, but this was guidance given to the house of Israel to focus on the Lord. This is also important to us at that is the way to salvation despite there being a council of Gods in the beginning

[@dleoburns]

@@TannerLDikinSermons: 'Elohiym (H430) is the masculine plural noun of 'elowahh (H433).

[@dleoburns]

@@eew8060: Michael, the Archangel isn't God but Jesus Christ is.

[@dleoburns]

@@williamhenley8593: Psalm 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth." Isaiah 12:2 "Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation." Jesus Christ (the spirit Jehovah prior to mortality) is our Savior and the "most high over all the earth." He is the God of this earth because it is his stewardship assigned by the Father. The Father is the "most high" over Heaven.

[@dleoburns]

@@eew8060: Yes, I know that. There are three entities in the Bible who are God. God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Ghost are all referred to in the Bible.

[@skippy8696]

Thank you for clarifying the point about the I Am statements in John and how they relate back to the Greek Septuagint/Exodus 3:14 and hence how the early church would have understood this when reading John. This is something that I've been meaning to look up for some time now but I never got around to it.

[@imagomonkei]

Skippy Jesus saying “I am” has nothing to do with Exodus 3:14. Anyone could respond with that phrase. It sounds weird in English because we typically add a predicate to the end, but in Greek it can be inferred. So unless _every_ Grecian saying “I am” is God, then Jesus saying it isn't God. Look at Exodus 3:14 more carefully. In Hebrew, he says, “I will be that which I will be.” It isn't God's name, it's a description of who he is. His name is יהוה (usually rendered as “Yahweh”)-He Will Be. In Greek, he says, “I am the one who is”. The significance in Greek isn't on “I am”, but rather ”the one who is”.

[@skippy8696]

@@imagomonkei Right, pretty sure he addressed this in the video, did you even make it that far in?

[@rm2kmidi]

@@skippy8696 exactly, he clearly didn't watch the video

[@scottgrey2877]

@@skippy8696 Jesus is not our creator but he is the reason for creation

[@michaelhaigh9182]

The proper saying at exodus 3 v 15 shud read he because to become plus Jesus did not say before Abraham IAM that is not a correct sentence it reads before before Abraham was I was or excited if you need any teachers lisern to Robert king and even Greg Stafford there the very good

[@king_shooter1345]

You have been gifted with so much knowledge! I will love to continually learn about the sovereignty of God for eternity.

[@dennismaher9533]

AMEN......you just destroyed the entire Mormon cult narrative ! THANK YOU ............

[@jeff7888]

It's just many could be confused by thinking that one can't see this unless they know Hebrew and Greek.

[@adamykim]

good stuff, I will say that one of the advertisements was for a free Bible from mormon.org. just a heads up apologia. thanks for your work

[@imagomonkei]

Bahaha that's so perfect! 😂

[@HellFireCobra]

They are appearing to be "Christians" by doing that

[@dralgarza]

At 19:55 Dr. White tries to quote the Hebrew of Exodus 3:14 with "Ani hoo, asher, ani hoo" which is not in the Hebrew of Exodus 3:14. That is more modern Hebrew than Biblical Hebrew. I am not sure how he can claim that he knows the languages when he cannot even recall basic Hebrew for the name of God found in Exodus 3:14. He knows the Greek translation but has no clue what the original language is, that God spoke to Moses? The actual Hebrew, "אהיה אשׁר אהיה."

[@HellFireCobra]

Pronounce it using phonetics

[@dralgarza]

@@HellFireCobra "Ahe-ye asher Ahe-ye" Better?

[@HellFireCobra]

Yes sir! I don't read Hebrew, so I wouldn't know unless I had a lexicon to look at it.

[@Maison1990]

I understand you posted this a few months back, but I think you're being far too quick to cast judgement. Dr White clearly, at the time stamp you posted, made obvious that he could not remember the exact Hebrew phrase, and instead referenced the Greek. You are talking about a fallible man in his mid 50's referencing a verse in a 2nd language from memory .... yet, even though he and you are obviously speaking about the same context... you complain on a mispronounciation. Which made no difference in explanation or context of his argument..... I don't want to say it sounds like a grasp for straws, as you may be genuine in concern for the small mispronounciation, but the man is not God. He is not perfect, and is allowed small screw ups, just like you and I.

[@as-yv7ur]

@@Maison1990 The Living God is Jehovah. (Jeremiah 10:10) Jesus is the Son of the Living God. (Matthew 16:16) If God wanted to leave as a trinity could he?...Yes he could let me ask you then. If God is one and send his son to earth to save us, Is that unreasonable? Did God lie on Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God. Yahweh is one."? If God was a trinity why would he hide it from his people who their lives depended on the worship of God? Why the trinity doctrine is never mention specifically, clearly, for us to grasp as Jehovah said "I am one". he said this is my son who I have approved he wasn't. talking to himself

[@ulisesbernales5969]

The Holy Spirit teaches us the truth and mans opinions dont matter period.

[@as-yv7ur]

The Living God is Jehovah. (Jeremiah 10:10) Jesus is the Son of the Living God. (Matthew 16:16) If God wanted to leave as a trinity could he?...Yes he could let me ask you then. If God is one and send his son to earth to save us, Is that unreasonable? Did God lie on Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God. Yahweh is one."? If God was a trinity why would he hide it from his people who their lives depended on the worship of God? Why the trinity doctrine is never mention specifically, clearly, for us to grasp as Jehovah said "I am one". he said this is my son who I have approved he wasn't. talking to himself

[@andrewgraham6496]

A Question for "James White"! Centre of Consciousness? In Rom 6:9 and 1 Cor 15:20 we read that Christ was raised up from the dead. Since every human has a centre of consciousness, as such resides within the brain of the person, making that person aware, reason, thought, cognitive demands...what happens to that centre of consciousness when a person dies? It dies with that person along with the brain, and thus, that centre of consciousness exists no more! When the man Jesus died, where did his centre of consciousness go to? It went nowhere, it died along with the person called Jesus, this poses an interesting questions for Trinitarians! When Jesus was dead and his centre of consciousness was no more, just where did the so-called “divine nature” reside, as there was no centre of consciousness, because, there was no longer a person for the centre of consciousness to reside in, Jesus, the man was dead along with his centre of consciousness! The person called Jesus was dead for some three days, everything human about him was dead, including all brain activity, it was no more in existence! Can Trinitarians explain where the so-called “divine nature” resided, as it needed a host, a living person with a living brain to reside in, but now that host (Jesus the man) was now dead?

[@bobo577]

Your points (wrongly) assume death means to cease to exist. It doesn’t. Your centre of consciousness doesn’t entail you cease to be, you die physically but are alive with Christ in his presence assuming you follow him. Jesus was fully conscious while dead physically, he was in Sheol. This doesn’t pose a problem for the Trinitarian.

[@minicrunky6014]

Mark 13:32 “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” How can Jesus be God, and not know when he will return?

[@williamhenley8593]

Finally someone that gets it

[@christianbenoit8898]

Preaching to the choir, buddy. Also, Numbers 23:19 - "God is not a man."

[@JQHNDi]

Philippians 2: 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Hebrews 2:9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone. He was made, for a little while, lower than the angels, the knowledge of when he would return could easily be within that. This is such a rudimentary challenge to the trinity... Let me ask you this. Does God share his glory with another?

[@travisrennie9863]

Geoff Ward, the bigger question is why doesn’t god the Holy Spirit know?

[@minicrunky6014]

John Dominy If this is so rudimentary, why the need to answer a simple question with another question. God does delegate his power and authority to others. John 1:1 is worded as a metaphor. “The Word” is a metaphor for Jesus Christ. “The Word was god” is a metaphor to describe that Jesus acted with the power and authority that was delegated to him by god. I am amazed that some people can accept the first metaphor, but then insist that the remainder must be interpreted literally. The obviously false doctrine of the Trinity has driven many people away from God and the Saviour.

[@atajoseph]

Excellent Excellent Excellent!!!

[@jeff7888]

Here's what I believe. I believe Jesus is God according to scripture. He always was. So He had to be Jehovah God.

[@Ben-nl7kx]

Nope

[@davidsquadhurtado1945]

John 14:28 Jesus said my father is greater than I am

[@discjockeydoll9643]

Why is it that everytime a real Christian tries to prove the deity of Christ, JWs automatically assume that real Christian is denying the Father? They are NOT and never will.

[@levyy_012]

The master is also greater than the servant but it doesn't make the master any more human being than his servant

[@Sirach144]

@@levyy_012 but God is greater than Jesus. If Jesus is God then none can be greater than he is. The almighty cannot be in subjection to anyone.

[@exjwlaura]

I am greater than my children but I am still a human and they are human Jesus Incarnation explains all of this, he humbled himself letting go in Philippians 2 to be your sacrifice so that you wouldn't have to die in your sins.

[@GospelwithElijah]

Pls help!! I’m struggling with the book truth in translation; it seems that JW is right there ? I’m confused and need help.

[@dannyfierro1597]

ALLLLL James White/ Durbin...Apologia info is simply AMAZING. And while I do not, technically believe in Calvanism (more Arminianism for me, NOT a salvation issue) James White, I have found, researched etc THE foremost authority on these TRUTHS. Yes, there are many many other wonderful apologists, biblical Antiquity experts, theologians, many of which I watch with regularity, but doctor White's analysis, breakdown, depth and origin, are just second to none. Just refreshing and amazing gift granted and hopefully will bring more followers to the truth of Christ

[@Brother_Timothy_Harvey]

Honest question - have you ever asked why great Bible scholars like Durbin and White are Calvinist? Think about it. Durbin, White, McArthur, Lawson, Baucham, Pennington, The Reformers etc. What do all those names have in common? They are amazing scholars. I used to disagree with reformed theology too. I would ask the question, "How do these guys not see 2 Pet 3:9, John 3:16 etc? It wasn't until I put my tradition to the side and allowed ALL of scripture to speak that I began to see how I was reading universal atonement into the scriptures. I was a charismatic egalitarian Arminianist until I started exegeting the Bible. Now I'm a reformed cessationist brother. There is no going back for me. John 6 and 10. Romans 9, and so forth

[@dannyfierro1597]

@@Brother_Timothy_Harvey Super appreciated viewpoint. I could also, rattle off some equally AMAZING scholars relative to the latter, but DO wholeheartedly appreciate the perspective, I'll continue looking into it

[@systemrevolt7309]

Excellent, I listen to the dividing line every time it is available. Thank you Dr White. Apologia , please post your content on iTunes podcast again, please.

[@jeff7888]

I'm not being ignorant James but I just can't follow all that Hebrew and greek theological language even though I know my Bible is translated into English from it. I believe there is not 3 God's, but one God. I believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, yet one God. So I ask you to James to tell me in lay man's terms. Is Jesus Jehovah?

[@lonelyguyofficial8335]

(I'm not James I know but,) Yes, He Is.

[@ronaldgogan3437]

I hope ya'll are getting money from KZbin for all the commercials on your videos.

[@leejohnson6328]

have you given a thumbs' down to the God and Father of Jesus?

[@danielstraight4503]

Ugh. His Greek pronunciation is so off. Still, everything else is perfect.

[@marztianpapi3419]

Could you talk to Jesse Lee Peterson about salvation and the trinity

[@WasLostButNowAmFound]

Master Class of exegesis.

[@jeremiahpillay6219]

Did James watch the debate between David Wood and Mohammed Hijab? I'd love to know his take on it.

[@jeremiahpillay6219]

@Gino Losoya God bless Dr. White. He rebukes the Christians whenever they're arrogant or show childish behavior , in particular, David's "Islamicize Me" video series. I am still waiting for Islam's top apologists like Shabir Ally and Hijabs mate Adnan Rashid to address his childish semantics on the debating stage.

[@osoloco3651]

#Logos rising

[@cdowis]

Dr White, May I suggest that you carefully consider what Peter advised the theologians and Pharasees 2 Peter 1 [20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. [21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God [prophets] spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Do you actually think your Phd gives you a free pass to ignore his counsel?

[@thebasiclute]

Thats why "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is so important! Joseph Smith did see GOD! James 1: 5-6 in the BIBLE explains to pray to Heavenly Father if you want to know the truth of something (all things) and he will manifest it to you! This is how you will know if the "Book of Mormon" is true! Not by listening to someone who I would compare to the Pharisees who were very smart and learned deceiving the masses. Most people are being led by the blind and are SIGN based seekers, instead of FAITH based seekers. Here it is directly from our Bible (the word of GOD)... ask Heavenly Father if the Book of Mormon is true, AFTER reading it and the content inside! This process weeds out the wheat from the tares. James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! Love you all!

[@thebarber2009]

Keep reading it says Jesus is God in 2 peter

[@scottadair9244]

Hebrews 1:5 shouts jws. Down everytime .

[@discjockeydoll9643]

Only their Bible says in verse 8 "God is your throne." Where as other translations say "Your Throne O God."

[@michaelhaigh9182]

How come ? I think you are missing the piont on Hebrew Jesus has been givern the name above every outher name so when he begins his 1000 year reign he is God 4 the 1000 years but he Jesus gives the kingdom back to his God and farther so if you think that giveing the kingdom back to his God and farther makes him equal to God then you are mistaken

[@Abinitio777]

Dr. James thoughtfully advancing the argument for the eternal deity of the Son, as personally distinct from the Father, based on a precise Biblical syntactical/grammatical exegesis thereby dismantling and refuting the theology of ALL the cults 'interpretation' of the verses in question. (CULTS SUCH AS: Jw's, Mormons, Oneness Pentecostals, Christadelphians, Unity School of Christianity, United Church of God, Unification Church, The Way International, Christian Science, Eckankar and all other Unitarian advocates)

[@thebasiclute]

Thats why "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is so important! Joseph Smith did see GOD! James 1: 5-6 in the BIBLE explains to pray to Heavenly Father if you want to know the truth of something (all things) and he will manifest it to you! This is how you will know if the "Book of Mormon" is true! Not by listening to someone who I would compare to the Pharisees who were very smart and learned deceiving the masses. Most people are being led by the blind and are SIGN based seekers, instead of FAITH based seekers. Here it is directly from our Bible (the word of GOD)... ask Heavenly Father if the Book of Mormon is true, AFTER reading it and the content inside! This process weeds out the wheat from the tares. James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! Love you all!

[@andrewgraham6496]

@@thebasiclute Joseph Smith seeing God! This is clearly a lie, as "no man has seen God at any time" (John 1:18), unless Jesus himself was lying! Even Ex 33:20 is very clear, that, "no man can see God and live"! So, whoever said that Joseph Smith saw God is either a liar and biased or is pig ignorant! (No holds barred here!!!)

[@thebasiclute]

@@andrewgraham6496 You obviously listen to deceivers and do not read for yourself! Here is your PROOF FROM THE BIBLE ITSELF!!!!!!! Bible References About People That Have Seen God! In 1820, a 14-year-old farm boy named Joseph Smith Jr. was confused about which church he should join. He went into a grove of trees to pray to God for an answer, and he got one. In what has become known as The First Vision, God and Jesus appeared to Joseph, and thus the seeds of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was planted. Critics trying to prove this vision could have never happened cite Exodus 33:20 & John 1:18 which read that no man has seen God or can see God and live. The problem is people had seen God. Those verses contradict the biblical record. So either the Bible is wrong, or those verses have been mistranslated at some point in time. I believe in the Bible, so I'm assuming the latter is true. Here is Bible passages confirming that people have seen God, thus supporting the possibility that God and Jesus did appear to Joseph. Genesis 3:8-10 "And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." So at the very beginning of the Bible God and Jesus are speaking to Adam in person. Think about it, God and Jesus would have had to have been present or else Adam and Eve wouldn't have hid themselves. Genesis 17:1-4 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations." God appeared in person to Abram and established the Abrahamic covenant. Later in the chapter ii says The two were most likely face to face because later in the chapter Abraham fell to the floor as he responded. Genesis 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." Jacob, now known as Israel, is rejoiced because he spoke with God face to face and lived. So it is obviously possible. Exodus 24:10-11 "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink." Seventy elders of Israel saw a head-to-toe Jesus and Heavenly Father, and not only did they not die, they ate and drank. Exodus 33:11 "And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle." So not only did Moses see God, they carried on a dialogue, speaking face to face like friends. This verse is funny because the verse that LDS critics cite saying people can't see God is just a few verses later and yet here Moses is in the presence of God. Deuteronomy 5:4 "The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire," Moses is about to tell the Israelites about him receiving the commandments from God. In his address he gives a little more information on what happened on the mountain top when he spoke with the "burning bush". Moses states that he actually spoke with God face to face once again. He was looking at the face of God inside the burning bush as they spoke. Kings 11:9 "And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the Lord God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice," This verse teaches that Jehovah appeared to King Solomon twice. Unfortunately that didn't stop Solomon from committing idolatry. For a wise man, Solomon was sure stupid. Seeing God twice and still apostatizing, that's nuts! Acts 7:55-56 "But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God." Stephen is about to be stoned to death for proclaiming his testimony of the gospel of Christ. Before he dies, he looks into heaven and sees both Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, standing next to each other. Now in this case Stephen did die after seeing them, but the death was due to him being pummeled by rocks, not seeing The Godhead.

[@Gorillarevolta]

Is it significant that God is mentioned 3 times in vs 1 and 2? On a different note, there's an INC in Belfast, unfortunately

[@imagomonkei]

R3V3RB no, it's not significant at all.

[@skippy8696]

I recently drove past an INC 'church' (if you can even call it that) in Melbourne, Australia. I couldn't believe my eyes...I thought, what in the world are they doing here of all places? Yikes.

[@jerubaal3333]

so the Word was God but not interchangeable? joke or what?

[@lalo2641]

God is to great you have to find him you have to discern when his near,or when his in front of you.

[@lalo2641]

And the teaching was with GOD

[@lalo2641]

The father is to great

[@mmelhsals7389]

I don't feel the Holy Spirit in this teaching, that's the problem of "sola scriptura" it teaches very confusing that's why it doesn't touches the "Heart"...

[@stevenwebb6253]

Did you know that in John 1:1-3, there are different Greek words for both Gods mentioned? The Word, Jesus, (Λόγος or Logos), was with God (Θεόν, or Theon). The Word was God (Θεὸς, or Theos). He, Jesus, was in the beginning with God (Θεόν, Theon). Even though these are different tenses of the same word, they are nevertheless differentiated. Satan was also called θεὸς, or Theos at 2 Corinthians 4:4. Is Satan also God? Don’t know Greek? Neither do I. Let’s break this down a little further shall we? In the beginning was the word (Jesus, Son of God), and the word (Jesus, Son of God) was with God (Almighty God, God the Father), and the word (Jesus, Son of God) was God (Almighty God, God the Father)? No matter how you put it, it doesn’t make sense!! What does make sense is that Jesus, being in the beginning with God (Genesis 1:26, John 1:1), in fact being God’s very first creation (Colossians 1:15, Proverbs 8:22, Revelation 3:14), actually calls God his God and worships God the Father. (Revelation 3:12, John 20:17)

[@lalo2641]

Your the best James

[@bittersweet340]

Look the bible has contradictions, Moses , Stephen, John the revelatory, Saul, all seen GOD, Who is the word do you know the answer there’s a scriptural reference in 1 John

[@germanslice]

That's because Stephen's account is the truth about the Godhead that he saw. There's two of them that can be seen, The Father and also The Son.

[@lalo2641]

Jesus is very fast

[@HellFireCobra]

Did I hear James White refer to the Son as a "being" from the Greek?

[@MagnificentFiend]

No, he was using 'being' the present participle, not the noun. He was translating _ho ôn_ in the Greek. He could have said 'the one who was with' rather than 'the one being with' but that would have been less literal.

[@HellFireCobra]

Dude, thank you very much for clarifying that for me! I honestly (not being satirical at all here) had a moment of confusion about what I believed as far as trinitarian doctrine goes. That definitely helped!

[@MagnificentFiend]

@@HellFireCobra You're very welcome! God bless you.

[@brianslater289]

Can you guys go through Hosea at some point? And maybe other prophetic books? I'm having trouble understanding them.

[@skippy8696]

You could get a commentary for fairly cheap, I have a commentary that goes from Micah to Malachi for instance, so I'm sure you could find something. If you want a base-level understanding even a study bible, like the ESV Study Bible or the Reformation Study Bible would suffice.

[@ulisesbernales5969]

The Father exalts the Son for humbling himself to the point of death, now tell me how are they equal iff the Son even in his exalted glory is still inferior to the Father?

[@saltysaints7125]

“To the point of death” not “beyond the point of death”…

[@ej712]

Exactly

[@thebasiclute]

Thats why "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is so important! Joseph Smith did see GOD! James 1: 5-6 in the BIBLE explains to pray to Heavenly Father if you want to know the truth of something (all things) and he will manifest it to you! This is how you will know if the "Book of Mormon" is true! Not by listening to someone who I would compare to the Pharisees who were very smart and learned deceiving the masses. Most people are being led by the blind and are SIGN based seekers, instead of FAITH based seekers. Here it is directly from our Bible (the word of GOD)... ask Heavenly Father if the Book of Mormon is true, AFTER reading it and the content inside! This process weeds out the wheat from the tares. James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! Love you all!

[@danielburr1823]

I love you friend but I have to disagree with your post. To find the truth of whether or not lds teaching is correct, one has to compare it to the Word of God. This is not to say that you shouldn't pray about it, which of course you should, but you can't just leave it up to waiting on a feeling from God to confirm it because our feelings can lead us astray. The heart can very easily be deceived especially when searching for the truth. Saying that, when you take what the Word of God says and compare it to the beliefs of the lds church you will find many issues and because Mormon teachings don't stand when challenged by God's unchanging and Holy Word it shouldn't be taken as truth. I say that respectfully and I truly love you but you are misled my friend.

[@thebasiclute]

@@danielburr1823 Then you obviously don't believe or have enough Faith in the words of the Bible my friend... James 1:5-6. (Please read that verse and ponder it)! We from the Church of Jesus Christ just understand a further aspect of the Bible (the scriptures as a whole) than most who claim being Christian. It's very easy to claim being Christian these days (as did the Pharisees), the ones being attacked is the Church of Jesus Christ and that's for the reason of being true. We believe and study the Bible, Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine & Covenants, Etc... all the standard works + some. We have a much deeper & richer knowledge of God's words, which were written by his Prophets. You can know that its true by reading them and then praying about them (James 1:5-6). Let me ask you this... how did you come to know the Bible was true for yourself? Let me guess... a lot a Faith and Prayer my Friend! And the same goes for the Book of Mormon and all the rest of the standard works. The Gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored with proper priesthood authority, including Prophet and Apostleship. The exact same setup that Christ had called while on the Earth. This is the brightest worship you will ever find! Love you Brother!

[@danielburr1823]

@@thebasiclute Well see I never said that I didn't believe or have faith in the Word and I actually implied the opposite but maybe you didn't catch that. The scripture you provided is a powerful scripture and it's true I don't deny that, but I think you misunderstand it. When it says "If any man lack wisdom let him ask" that doesn't mean ask any question you have and God will answer. Wisdom is a knowledge of living this life. It is also extremely prideful and arrogant to claim that you have a deeper understanding of God's Word because you read other books that don't align themselves with what the Bible says. That's especially true when you've already shown misunderstanding in it and I say that respectfully. It's no different if I said " I own a quron and a Bible therefore I have a deeper understanding of what God says", that's a logical fallacy called the argument from authority. God's Word was meant to be easy enough for the simple to understand it. It is the Truth that should be used to shed light on this situation, read Psalm 119:130. The Bible is literally "God-breathed" 2 Timothy 3:16. Meaning it is God's very words to us. I own a book of mormon, I've read the king fallett sermon and the pearl of great price and so much of the lds beliefs and doctrine is in contradiction to the Bible that it is flat out false as a whole and If you truly believe the Bible then you can not agree with the book of mormon and others you listed. I came to know the Bible as truth by inspecting what it said to see if it was logical, factual, consistent within itself and whether or not it contradicted itself and it passed all green. So to answer your question as to how I came to know the Bible is true overall (not just for myself) well I read it. Pretty simple really and that's what you're supposed to do. With that, God tells us to read His Word to test what is taught by others to be true or false 1 Thessalonians 5:21"Test all things; hold fast that which is good". The book of mormon does not align itself with the Bible and to that God has said "if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them". You've been deceived into a false gospel my friend. I pray that you would turn away from that and I hope that you embrace the True Gospel as God has spoken it.

[@thebasiclute]

@@danielburr1823 It sounds as if we have both done our homework and we both agree to disagree. I believe the Book of Mormon aligns perfectly with the Bible and gives some very nice additional insight from different Prophets. And if it was so far from what what the Bible teaches like you mentioned, there would not be as many members as there are period! The Church of Jesus Christ is one of the fastest growing churches in the entire World for a reason. It has also brought me closer to the Savior and our Heavenly Father. I have also done what James 1:5-6 suggests and have received an answer from God personally. The Bible and Book of Mormon clearly state that there will be many false Prophets in the last days, but it also mentions that there will be true Prophets in the last days... so my question to you is... who is the true Prophet on the Earth today if not Russell M Nelson? Amos 3:7 King James Version (KJV) 7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. People love to follow dead Prophets, but not living Prophets! Its just the way it is... many people could not even accept Jesus for crying out loud!

[@Maison1990]

@@thebasiclute You are basing your faith on signs and feelings, not scripture. You incorrectly relate the Holy Spirit to a positive feeling of agreement to your beliefs. You point to multiple things that have nothing to do with Gods word (like the number of members in LDS, or how you pray and feel okay about it, and then act like its faith to believe your feelings). The scripture makes clear a difference between the naturally deceptive heart (feelings) and the true and perfect Holy Spirit, which can only be received by the Father in the name of the Son. If you held the same standards you spoke of before, then the Muslim who has faith in his scripture and prays to his "god" is just as correct as you are. Do you think they don't ask for confirmation and believe they recieve it? A blind faith is blasphemous, you were given the Word of God for a reason. Utilize it to combat the false teachings of LDS, and if LDS remains standing than you can be confident. Though, you seem to completely, purposely, and willingly ignore the twisting of scripture that is evident in LDS doctrine and practice. I say this out of love, most certainly not hate. I hope your eyes are opened and will be sure to pray for you!

[@heavybar3850]

Hello James. Thank you for the video, I would recommend maybe next time it would be usefel if you could use a white board so you can spell the words for us.

[@88BuckMeister]

Do you read Koine Greek? I do. I don't think a white board will help you in spelling. Explaining the anarthrous proverbal nominative predicate in 1:1c isn't going to be made easier to comprehend by showing you alien characters

[@heavybar3850]

@@88BuckMeister What a ridiculous comment. All learning starts somewhere

[@88BuckMeister]

@@heavybar3850 I agree with you whole heartedly. My point is learning doesn't start everywhere. If this interests you, that tickles me to death and I highly encourage you to pick up a couple of books on basic koine greek for biblical study. But the complexity of the specific grammatical issues he's referring to are way over the head of the beginner. I wasn't trying to be a jerk. When someone finds themself saying "Dr White I really wish you had done THIS" it usually means they just didn't look hard enough, because it already exists. James white has done everything. If you really insist on seeing Dr. White break this down in the Greek on a board, watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5CUXoigpraYg9ksi=a3CCXIVJnUXPlbQ3

[@heavybar3850]

@@88BuckMeister OKay I'll give it a look thanks

[@jeff7888]

Heard a Mormon asking a believer the question, is Jesus Jehovah?. Tell me what yous think.

[@grandpaje4734]

The covenant or proper name of the God of Israel. It denotes “the eternal I AM” (Ex. 3:14; John 8:58). Jehovah is the premortal Jesus Christ. Only SAVIOUR, Jesus Christ 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. (Isa 43) 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.(Luke 2) 2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the Lord: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. (Exodus 6) Jehovah is The Lord Jesus Christ, 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one LORD JESUS CHRIST, by whom are all things, and we by him.(1 Cor 8) Jehovah is THE LORD, the Saviour in Old Testament. JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAVIOR IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. JEHOVAH = JESUS CHRIST

[@jeff7888]

@@grandpaje4734 what do you mean when you say Jehovah is the pre mortal Jesus?

[@willchacon5888]

No he is not

[@rodsteel6595]

This was confusing..... I'm going to have to watch this many times.

[@dennisandros]

Found a good one for the Mormons.. Elohim's name is Jehovah Isaiah 48:2 [2]For they call H7121 themselves of the holy H6944 city, H5892 and stay H5564 themselves upon the God H430 of Israel; H3478 The LORD H3068 of hosts H6635 is his name. H8034 Strong's Number - H430 Hebrew: אלהים Transliteration: 'ĕlôhîym Pronunciation: el-o-heem' Strong's Number - H3068 Hebrew: יהוה Transliteration: yehôvâh Pronunciation: yeh-ho-vaw'

[@ditherjannev2590]

John 1: 1. Biblical verse falsified in the 2nd century by Trinitarian Christians.

[@skippy8696]

What do you mean by 'falsified'? Are you claiming they wrote it themselves and simply inserted it into the gospel of John or...what? Care to elaborate? If this is indeed what you're saying, they would have to falsify the entire prologue, not just the first verse.

[@ditherjannev2590]

To modify about twenty verses would be enough to make believe in the trinity. God let that happen.

[@yasaaley]

A word is thought out and spoken or written into being. A word cannot be self-existent. The Word here is of the Father and not self-existent. We know this because it is written - "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” [John 1:14]. Furthermore Jesus said “Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.” [John 6:46] Besides this, we know that all things including the Word are of the Father. "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." [1Corinthians 8:6]. The Father precedes his Son or his Word. It is sacrilegious to think that the Word is eternal and therefore existed by itself and is not of the Father.

[@DarrelSimon]

Indeed there are many people that believe in the Trinity, and it is a viewpoint that may or may not be correct: "And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end." (2 Nephi 31: 21) "Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil." (Alma 11: 44) "And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end." (Mormon 7: 7) LDS BoM 2 Nephi 31: 1 - 21 (21) LDS BoM Alma 11: 1 - 46 (44) LDS BoM Mormon 7: 1 - 10 (7) RLDS-CoC BoM 2 Nephi 13: 1 - 32 (31 - 32) RLDS-CoC BoM Alma 8: 1 - 109 (48 - 109, 104) RLDS-CoC BoM Mormon 3: 1 - 33 (24 - 33, 29)

[@TheRoger1205]

I had to laugh that there is an ad for the Mormon Channel on your site...talking about the dead and hanging out at graveyards, and feeling the dead through a thumbprint...what?

[@thebasiclute]

thats nonsense! "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is so important! Joseph Smith did see GOD! James 1: 5-6 in the BIBLE explains to pray to Heavenly Father if you want to know the truth of something (all things) and he will manifest it to you! This is how you will know if the "Book of Mormon" is true! Not by listening to someone who I would compare to the Pharisees who were very smart and learned deceiving the masses. Most people are being led by the blind and are SIGN based seekers, instead of FAITH based seekers. Here it is directly from our Bible (the word of GOD)... ask Heavenly Father if the Book of Mormon is true, AFTER reading it and the content inside! This process weeds out the wheat from the tares. James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! Love you all!

[@gavin_hill]

@@thebasiclute Anyone who gets wisdom from the father knows Joseph Smith is a false prophet. There is only one God and everyone knows it you supress the truth of scripture in your unrighteousness. In claiming to be wise you have been shown to be a fool. Repent and put your faith in Jesus alone for the forgiveness of sin and a new heart.

[@MrSierra1st]

I'm not a high school graduate, and have alot of difficulties understanding Mr. White. But very interesting

[@imagomonkei]

MrSierra1st Dr White doesn't understand Dr White because the words coming from his mouth are nonsense.

[@tessmarsh4634]

We are just simple layman the bible is too hard for us to understand. We need to have scholars to break it down for us, it's too complicated. Joking of course.

[@MrSierra1st]

@@tessmarsh4634 this is what I think: people with school knowledge have the tools to have a very thorough argument. But people like me all I need is the Holy Spirit to understand the truth.

[@tessmarsh4634]

I was also going to add that. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ!!

[@thebasiclute]

Thats why "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is so important! Joseph Smith did see GOD! James 1: 5-6 in the BIBLE explains to pray to Heavenly Father if you want to know the truth of something (all things) and he will manifest it to you! This is how you will know if the "Book of Mormon" is true! Not by listening to someone who I would compare to the Pharisees who were very smart and learned deceiving the masses. Most people are being led by the blind and are SIGN based seekers, instead of FAITH based seekers. Here it is directly from our Bible (the word of GOD)... ask Heavenly Father if the Book of Mormon is true, AFTER reading it and the content inside! This process weeds out the wheat from the tares. James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! Love you all!

[@nikao7751]

The ISV puts only begotten as uniquely existing

[@lalo2641]

If you go to Jerusalem what language will you speak? Hebrew or Greek?

[@skippy8696]

I have a better question: if you were a part of the early church and you were searching the scriptures, what language would the Old Testament have been in?

[@lalo2641]

@@skippy8696 Hebrew and greek

[@skippy8696]

@@lalo2641 The answer is primarily Greek. The 'bible' of the early church was written/translated in Greek (the Septuagint or LXX). Even in the epistle to the Hebrews - who most certainly would have understood Hebrew - the writer quotes from the Greek Septuagint.

[@lalo2641]

@@skippy8696 ok

[@user-dc7tt2dc8g]

So you are saying that Jehovah is another name for Jesus. Then , as I understand it, you agree with LDS on that. The only difference is that LDS believe ( and I could be wrong) that Jesus Father is El. How did Jesus view the matter? John 20:17 “ Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘ I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” Is Jesus lying? Or is John lying? 1 Corinthians 11:3 may give insight “ But I want you to know that the head of every man I’d the Christ; the head of the woman is the man; in turn, the head of Christ is God.” So your choices in understanding 1 Corinthians 11:3 are that Jesus has an Authority over himself and likewise we are under Jesus authority. Or that you and Jesus and God are of the same level of authority.

[@michaelhaigh9182]

Sadly sir God did not have a beginning but if you can read rev 3 14 it says Jesus talking he said he is the beginning of the creation of God in outher words Jehovah has no beginning but Jesus did so know the readers no who Jesus is he is Jehovah son 😊

[@andrewgraham6496]

Ah! Tricky James White is at it again, spinning half truths about JWs and Jesus being God! Years ago, I saw a debate between White and Greg Stafford, Stafford made mince meat out of White, as White wouldn't give straight answers and waffled his way out of the argument! Two points I remember was when Stafford asked him about John 1:1 and John 17:3 and White had no real answer! I think the video is still on KZbin somewhere, floating around!

[@allivesevilla22]

i saw JESUS three times..he is black...rev 1:14-15.....i was confused about the doctrine of others,i asked the Lord to please make known your self to me...i want to know you and the father..then Jesus answered me...''GOD BECOME FLESH''! JEHOVAH AND JESUS IS ONE BODY,ONE SPIRIT ONE GOD....THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD! JESUS SAID ,I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE! JOHN 10:30.....I AM HIS CHILD AND HE IS MY GOD REVELATION 21:5-8...TITUS 2:13 MY GREAT GOD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST..AND HE IS COMING VERY SOON REVELATION 1:7-8...JESUS IS THE TRUE LIVING GOD 1 JOHN 5:20

[@jesuschristsaves9067]

Velle Jesus is ALMIGHTY GOD Revelation 1:8 He’s not a black man

[@Yourname3000]

Amen or this

[@iluvkuiuiluvhamsters9531]

Thank you! Answers sooo much!

[@lalo2641]

His to awesome 👍

[@lalo2641]

Not latin

[@middlecrossranch3977]

Why bother debating those witnesses anyway! I mean, it's not like they're elected or anything like that! Why hassle with someone whome God hates?

[@gavin_hill]

@Terry_Dueck Are you claiming to know who can be saved?

[@thebarber2009]

we dont wrestle with flesh and blood but with pricipalities and against darkness. We dont fight JW but whats holding them back.

[@carterohlson50]

Was Jesus Christ a man? Meaning, was he mortal subject to hunger, first, sleep, pain, temptation etc.

[@carterohlson50]

*thirst

[@ea-tr1jh]

Well yeah

[@Gorkeennss_EDITZ]

Iam greek!En arche in o logos kai o logos in pros ton theon kai theos in o logos. The word (logos was in the begining (arche). And (theos) are the (logos)… 👍

[@carterohlson50]

I struggle to understand Dr James, maybe he should try using parables like the Savior did to help his listeners understand.

[@imagomonkei]

Carter Ohlson the problem is that wherever you try to simplify Trinitarian nonsense into something humans can actually grasp, you land in one of a dozen different heresies. They say you are damned if you disagree, but trying to understand it will also damn you.

[@jhowe5571]

He used parables to the masses in order they would not understand and He gave the disciples the interpretation so they would understand.

[@carterohlson50]

J howe I agree his parables were aimed at his disciples.

[@carterohlson50]

Cassandra Garcia He did say that. Congratulations you read the bible.

[@jefferey8151]

Whichever tense it was it doesn’t matter. The continuous past, until the point when there was no past. Before the existence of time (before the beginning) there was only YHWH. John would’ve understood this with his divine influence, referring to the beginning as Genesis 1:1 also does. YHWH created the word first, a separate entity. Through the word (Michael or his earthly form Jesus) all things were created. If you see your polytheistic trinity as having a beginning then you are corrupting the divinity of God, as that would mean he was created.

[@thebarber2009]

Every knee will bow to Micheal?

[@thebarber2009]

Micheal is going to come back and destory the earth and the clouds and elements will burn up with fervent heat?

[@thebarber2009]

Micheal is at the right hand of God?

[@thebarber2009]

Where was Jesus when Micheal fought with the Dragon?

[@thebarber2009]

why is Satan and Micheal both have angels and why are the both called chief & prince?

[@refractedcurvature3567]

Funny how the trinity of the new testament answers the three paradoxes of godhood. Omnipresent is the spirit of god, omniscient is the son, omnipotent is the father. Hmmmmmm do eastern philosophy even attempt to reconcile these realizations of god?

[@sonoofgod5]

JESUS is a jealous GOD repent

[@refractedcurvature3567]

No jesus is part of the only God repent

[@dleoburns]

father of a stolen child: The New Testament refers to the Godhead including God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Ghost. Psalm 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth. Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation." Jehovah (Jesus Christ), the savior, is the "most high" over all the earth and the Father is the "most high" over heaven. The comforter is the Holy Ghost. John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

[@refractedcurvature3567]

@@dleoburns you do get what i am saying about paradoxes right? The trinity are seperate but the same they are apart and together. I am saying their is no other logical religion other than Christianity. I am only a recent convert so I can't stand toe to toe with you on scripture. I do know reason though and so did the people who followed Jesus. Christianity shattered the Roman empire and it had to convert to continue. It was able to do that because it is the only religion that makes common sense. The paradoxes of godhood are laid out and the only truth is Jesus.

[@sonoofgod5]

@@dleoburns all tha names equals JESUS

[@JayeKole]

Feel like I'm being trolled by that vest lol. Good content, though. That said...Jeff and Friends, can we arrange a call-in debate of Calvinism? I'd love to, in love, smash Reformed Theology live on the air if yall would have me. Love 99% of your ministry, Jeff. You're a good brother. All yall are. Tragically misguided...but good brothers. Lemme help 👀

[@thebasiclute]

Thats why "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" is so important! Joseph Smith did see GOD! James 1: 5-6 in the BIBLE explains to pray to Heavenly Father if you want to know the truth of something (all things) and he will manifest it to you! This is how you will know if the "Book of Mormon" is true! Not by listening to someone who I would compare to the Pharisees who were very smart and learned deceiving the masses. Most people are being led by the blind and are SIGN based seekers, instead of FAITH based seekers. Here it is directly from our Bible (the word of GOD)... ask Heavenly Father if the Book of Mormon is true, AFTER reading it and the content inside! This process weeds out the wheat from the tares. James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! Love you all!

[@TheJpgr1958]

@@thebasiclute You do realize that basically everything you stated, people in other groups also make the same claims your group does, such as being the only true church on earth, that their founder and only their founder heard and spoke for God, that one needs to be baptized by their group for there's is the only one with the authority to do so, etc., etc., making your claim as a Mormon nothing special or unique. So the question is this....how do you refute all of the those in other groups that utilizes the exact same standards you did that led you to believe that Smith was who he claimed he was without refuting yourself in the end?

[@thebasiclute]

@@TheJpgr1958 Most Christians are based just from the Bible... we have the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price and thats what separates us from the rest. If the Book of Mormon is true than wa-la! ;) Find the true Prophet! That is just one of your major tests in this life!

[@TheJpgr1958]

@@thebasiclute "If the Book of Mormon is true than wa-la!" Well, this whole statement is pre supposing that Smith was who he claimed he was, one who was chosen by God to restore The Gospel. And as I stated to you before, this kind of belief is nothing new or unique to you and your group. Also, if one of your standards of having the corner market on Christianity is that you have extra books, that also means nothing for other groups claiming the same thing you do have extra books, from The Moonies, to The Watchtower, to Islam, etc. So this standard, or rather, so called standard, means nothing, as does your default position of your testimony. So again, how would you refute groups making the same claims you are making, which also utilizes the exact same standards you make, which go to the exact same Bible verses to prove that their leader/prophet is true, etc., without refuting yourself in the end? "wa-la! ;)" And that's what those in other groups making the same claim your group does would state back to you. So you prove nothing. Wa-la indeed.

[@thebasiclute]

@@TheJpgr1958 What does it matter if other groups make the same claims? By the way i am curious... what other Religions claim that that if you pray, you will receive an answer that their additional scriptures are true by the power of the holy ghost? Find out for yourself! Here is the answer you are looking for right out of the Bible! Either you believe it or you dont! James 1:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. Wa-La! ;) If you have not learned how to communicate with Heavenly Father through prayer and are not able to do something as simple as ask him for an answer and wait for him to reveal it to you by the Spirit/Holy Ghost... then i am afraid you are very far from the target and have not taken that next step in your life of truly relying upon Faith by Prayer! Stop being deceived by Men and start relying on Heavenly Father for answers and insight of truth! By the way - People love to follow dead Prophets, but not living Prophets. Let me ask you... who do you believe is the true Prophet upon the Earth Today? The Bible clearly states that in the last days there will be many false Prophets, but also a true Prophet! I would love to hear who you believe the true Prophet is today... please share!

[@dleoburns]

Dr. James White: First of all, most Bible scholars are aware that the Greek language is not as precise as the Hebrew language. John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." Luke 16:22 "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom." In both verses the word "bosom" is Kolpos [G2859 - Strong's Greek Lexicon]. In both cases the statements are symbolic. The spirit of Lazarus dwells with the spirit of Abraham in paradise and the resurrected and glorified body of Jesus Christ now dwells with the Father in heaven. Prior to creation Jehovah, the spirit of Jesus Christ, dwelt with the Father in Heaven and administered to this earth as Exodus 6:2 "And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the Lord: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them."

[@jerubaal3333]

the Word was in the begining, becouse he was the Arche (the begining = the head) of all creation

[@imagomonkei]

KuntaKinte even that isn't necessary. The _logos_ isn't a person, it's a personified attribute. It became embodied in the man Jesus.

[@as-yv7ur]

The Living God is Jehovah. (Jeremiah 10:10) Jesus is the Son of the Living God. (Matthew 16:16) If God wanted to leave as a trinity could he?...Yes he could let me ask you then. If God is one and send his son to earth to save us, Is that unreasonable? Did God lie on Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God. Yahweh is one."? If God was a trinity why would he hide it from his people who their lives depended on the worship of God? Why the trinity doctrine is never mention specifically, clearly, for us to grasp as Jehovah said "I am one". he said this is my son who I have approved he wasn't. talking to himself

[@10kdeviin82]

Genisis 1:26

[@as-yv7ur]

@@10kdeviin82 yes the him is jesus bcuz All things came into existence through him

[@as-yv7ur]

@@10kdeviin82All things came into existence through him{jesus} Proverbs 8:30 John 1:3 Colossians 1:16

[@10kdeviin82]

@@as-yv7ur go back to verses in john

[@as-yv7ur]

@@10kdeviin82 wachu mean

[@quantumrobin4627]

You should need to prove something is relevant, before you claim your interpretation is the only correct one. But I understand that’s how you keep your business model lucrative.

[@Maison1990]

How is his context and exegesis irrelevant?

[@ziffy88]

that color blind chest

[@kirkrainieriyog7529]

Jesus is not God even himself he did not claim he is God what Bible say is he is the Only Begotten Son of God and Servant of God Jesus say Your God is my God it means he have God he follows so it clear Jesus is not God stop portraying Jesus is God the Only True God written is Jehovah or YHWH he is the real God, the Almighty God, the Only Living God, the Grand Creator, the Ancient of Days and the Owner of Life or Life Giver the Days and Time was started to him.

[@enano123ify]

Jesus is God. Better said is jesus is God manifested in flesh. The word that became flesh was the word God spoke I genesis 3:15 the word was God because we refer to somones voice as that person. God has no beginning his word dose. Jesus is God manifested in flesh and the fullness of God is in him but this dose not mean God stops existing outside of jesus because God is everywhere. Jesus and God are not the same. Jesus and God are one meaning that jesus gave his will to the father and are in harmony are in the "same page" you could say. Guys God has preserved his worse just have to read it carefully

[@enano123ify]

Word*

[@jeff7888]

I am not a Mormon are a Jehovah's witness. So please don't miss understand me when I see Jesus who I believe to be Jehovah. Believing this I see God's. The religious leaders of His day were going to kill Him because they knew that He was saying He is God. When He said before Abraham was I am. The God head is a unit. One. To Moses and others He was known as l am, in Hebrew I am is translated Yahweh, later Jehovah. Later Lord. And comparing old testament with the new testament. I believe Jesus is Jehovah. To me that does not take away from the unit of the God head of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. One God. We can only believe this by faith that is revealed to us from scripture by His Spirit.

[@rodsteel6595]

This guy takes way!!!! too long to say something simplistic.

[@davidsquadhurtado1945]

First of all you're twisting the scriptures Around Jesus is not God you don't know your Bible John 5:37 Jesus says you have never heard the father's voice any time nor seen his form

[@Maison1990]

I've already spoken to this... don't mean to come off as rude. Why did you post several comments if you yourself are using an incorrect translation?

[@imagomonkei]

James White should debate Dale Tuggy. Maybe after Michael Brown recovers from his wounds. January 11 can't come soon enough!

[@travisrennie9863]

Dr white, just using the Greek grammar argument is very disingenuous because virtually no one in your audience speaks Greek. I personally like the historical argument because we can all fact check that. So what does history say? Well one of the earliest translations from the Greek is two Sahidic Coptic. And in that early Christian translation they use The indefinite article in John 1:1 c. Literally, the Coptic says: 1. a. In the beginning existed the word 1. b. And the word existed in the presence of the god 1. c. And a god was the word now you can always argue that that early Christians didn’t understand the Greek or they didn’t have the Holy Spirit. So do we have anything earlier then that? And the answer is yes in the late 100ce we have Origins commentary on the book of John and he beautifully explains why you’re wrong. earlychristianwritings.com/text/origen-john2.html Read it for yourself in chapter 2. The type of Christian you are is a Valentinian Gnostic Christian which started around 140ce and if you read there bible the Nag Hammadi scriptures you have your teachings for example the three book “the tripartite tractate” it teaches The eternal generation of the son, and the “ Secret book of John” it clearly teaches that Jesus is part of the define triad.

[@lalo2641]

I've been in the presence of the father

[@telabib]

It must be great to have a brain.

[@lalo2641]

Jesus has a GOD

[@gabrielkinzel3389]

Before Abraham was, I Am...

[@lalo2641]

@@gabrielkinzel3389 cool but his mot GOD

[@lalo2641]

@@gabrielkinzel3389 Matthew5:8. I guess it doesn't count 😂😂😂

[@gabrielkinzel3389]

Yes, if you’re pure in heart, you’ll see God. The thing is, nobody is pure in heart, or not continuously.

[@gabrielkinzel3389]

If Jesus isn’t God, then why does it say that Jesus created everything?