Cultish: Bob Lazar & Alien Spacecraft

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[@justaguyandhissilver4893]

This is honestly hard to watch. 60% of the conversation is like, you know, like ,he was like, there, like, he like said he like, saw it, like, he like worked hands on, like his hands, like his, like...you know? It would also help to research a topic you're going to discuss.

[@ryanward4447]

Chris Cummings this is like kind of like hilarious lol

[@BobetoSlim]

Ya dont just believe him cuz he said so, oh and btw this is said in the bible and we blindly believe that.

[@johnr2630]

SERIOUSLY dude!! Well that’s what happens when you get a bunch of hipsters trying to be intellectuals. This is honestly hard to watch even if I’m basically on their side. Cause I do honestly believe bob and his story. But still these people are hard to look at

[@justaguyandhissilver4893]

@@johnr2630 im in the same boat man. I truly believe he is telling the truth. There are too many facts that came to light over the years. The phone book directory with his name in it. The hand scanners that he talked about and no one thought they existed. The fact he knew the test flight schedules and brought people there to see it on more than one occasion. The fact that the FBI keeps raiding his place etc etc. I could keep going but you get the idea.

[@BaconPizza]

I'm a christian and I found it very difficult to listen to lol

[@anaskb1798]

You guys are talking about a story which u don't exactly know about.. and drawing conclusions based on what u think is the story 🤷

[@leonardolopez1511]

Ignorance is bliss.

[@OldSlyEyes]

Idk what they said that he didnt say? Lol

[@ericarmstrong6573]

Anas Beerankunju care to expand on that and perhaps bring about your extensive research?

[@anaskb1798]

@@ericarmstrong6573 extensive research??😂.. do u call listening extensive research? If yes then i did extensive research. If you have listened to the guy once, u know it's a different spin they r trying to put in this podcast. For example, the lady says Bob's not the first person to theorise the existence of element 115 and in that way trying to discredit him, well, Bob himself said that it had been theorised that there's an island of stability from 114 to 116 where it could be stable and even goes to say there's one at around 200s(much before the discovery of the element).. so he wasn't trying to show that "i said 115 exists so I'm right".. instead he was just being factual.. that's my take on it.

[@isaacfwwatts]

@@anaskb1798 Nice reasoning. There are things in the bible that can't be explained within the existing known laws of the universe. Jesus appearing in a locked room. Phillip's movement from Jeruselam?? To the place where he met the Etheopian. The standard explanation is that the Spirit did these things. I can accept that. But it has to be considered that the Spirit did these things within the confines of the physical world. So there are (i could be wrong) only three explanations. 1.we dont know all the laws that govern movement in this universe or 2. The Spirit broke the laws of the physical universe. 3.that the laws can be bent. The other thing they keep saying is that they trust science. Science believes an evolutionary view of the world. Science also believes the universe to be 13b years old. Science believes in climate change. Lots of Christians don't believe these things because they don't fit with a biblical world view. So no, on the big questions we generally speaking don't trust science. Lastly, the believe in extra terrestrial beings doesn't necessaerly preclude belief in Jesus. In fact it could be argued that believing we are the center of the universe and the only intelligence that has ever or will ever exist places us, not God, at the center of our view of the universe. Why is it always about us? I don't think believing such things precludes faith in Christ. I'm not saying I believe in aliens, I'm just arguing philosophically.

[@l.w.c.2519]

This topic is interesting, but after just watching the new Netflix doc & Joe Rogans whole podcast (both of which feature the information directly from Bob Lazar), listening to a lot of this Cultish just sounded uniformed on the details.

[@scottrussell1018]

Which details?

[@hodorneva7762]

They are fuzzy with the details on the element 115 and what he has said.

[@jeupater1429]

Aliens, absurd! The only possibile explanation must be from a book written by a bunch of cave dwellers from the first century. Exactly!

[@TheThinkInstitute]

@@jeupater1429 Accurately describe your opponents' beliefs and origins or accept the justly-deserved ridicule that results from failing to do so. HA

[@jessicaottis6127]

Geeze people sure do get upset hearing a Christian perspective on a Christian podcast. 🤣 Maybe this episode wasn't super informative on the Bob Lazar case, but they are a wealth of knowledge theologically. I appreciate them covering topics like this from a biblical perspective. I'm here for the apologetics and theology.

[@legitsebas0157]

Thank you for this

[@ChrisManess1]

I would go back and rewatch the Lazar Rogan podcast. Because he said a lot of things that are absolutely ignored or forgot in this criticism.

[@melaniew4354]

I have seen the Rogan interview, and the convenient migraine Lazar had that day kept me a skeptic. He couldn't recall too much of anything in great detail when pressed and kept blaming it on the migraine and looking to his handler, it was all kinds of sketch to me. I was willing to listen with an open mind, but that interview didn't help. I think Lazar's story could gain folklore status on underground radio and the like, but in this era of large platforms it mostly falls apart.

[@thesheep6248]

Go back to William Cooper and listen to what he had to say about UFO's. He was one of the original UFO conspiracy guys, and he had to recant everything when he discovered Project Bluebeam

[@johnvaglica2317]

No, the hand scanner doesn't prove that he worked on alien technology, it's just another thing that he knew about the base to give him more credibility.

[@jcdx87]

sure....

[@DAnonMusic]

He explained all about the elements being stable if they have more neutrons on Joe Rogan! ya'll have to catch up! Do more research!

[@deanadew7504]

The beards on these guys are UFOs: Unbelievable Facial Objects.

[@wrongthink5306]

Deana Dew lame

[@brentanton7466]

Bob Lazar is on Joe Rogans podcast today

[@gloryfire6301]

She says “uh”, “um”, and “like” almost as often as she says anything else.... And it’s distracting.

[@judem3227]

Who

[@DirtyDog617]

It’s so cringey to hear this girl criticize how Bob explains ANYTHING to do with physics and ANYTHING to do with elements and how they work....you guys seem to have added and subtracted a ton of information for some reason either for your own benefit or you just haven’t researched exactly what his story is and either way that makes for a super cringey podcast I couldn’t make it even halfway through it

[@perseverance8]

Lazar has commented on other factors regarding the way the craft he worked with was constructed in a fashion that Bob articulates is very different than anything he's ever seen.

[@topkapi9351]

As Christians, an attitude of dismissiveness is a dangerous thing to have, especially one of "oh that's crazy, how could anyone believe that." because to a large number of people what we believe could be seen the exact same way.

[@topkapi9351]

@@pattyw4844 I mean, I wouldn't go so far as to say that they were arguing for blind/wholesale trust in the government, but I understand what you mean lol. 😁

[@Dubayxx]

it is clear from this video that you guys only did enough research about Bob Lazar to confirm your pre-formed christian beliefs. It is always better to keep an open mind and let the facts guide your knowledge.

[@astroboi254]

bob lazar story is trash bro and Joe “I would lie to my own mother” Rogan is a gatekeeper shill go storm Area 51

[@jaggedcut8603]

You got us Dubay! People discussing something they haven't studied extensively proves us Christians to be wrong! How you reached that illogical conclusion baffles my mind. Anyone who uses the term "pre-formed Christian beliefs" is obviously out of his intellectual element. All beliefs are "pre-formed". Science has proven Christianity as the truth. Archeology, physics, psychology, all prove the Bible 100% correct. If you don't see that then... I'm sorry you don't science, bro!

[@silverbullet2008bb]

She is incorrect at 26.50 Bob Lazar does explain why element 115 doesn't decay. The answer is that every element has different variants called isotopes. There is an "island of stability" in one of the element 115 isotopes. It's to do with the number of neutrons vs the number of protons. Bob explained all that.

[@RandomVideosOfNoConsequence]

All anyone has to do to prove Lazar's MIT connection, I would imagine, would be to simply ask him "Tell us something specific about MIT that only someone who was physics major would know." Everyone who goes to college has stories about their time on campus. He could reference specific details about a lab, for example, or professors, or tiny details about anything at all at MIT. What computer system did he use as a student? What was the color and shape of the storage cabinet in one of the labs he worked in at MIT? Who were some of his teachers? If his answer is simply "I don't remember anything" then his MIT story is BS, because everyone remembers some things about college. But nobody who interviews him ever asks these questions, and I have no idea why nobody ever thinks about this.

[@dreadpirate.roberts]

Start by bashing X-Files - credibility immediately lost.

[@Ayoosi]

This was hard to watch. People who don't understand science trying to debunk a science-related story they don't understand. "I can't explain how or why an atom works, but because I don't your explanation, it's false!"

[@redplanet76]

Joy's explanation of the "atom" was ridiculous.

[@USRenewable]

Red Planet to many "protons" jeeze

[@USRenewable]

These guys/girls clearly failed science classes

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

Geez why all the hate? Just let the people talk and enjoy talking about something they find interesting.

[@raymondramirez513]

If “like” and “you know” is 50% of your explanation regarding his explanation you lose credibility. You preface by saying you are not a physicist and you are qualified to challenge a physicist on the law of physics like, you know.. how?

[@2degucitas]

Good one.

[@cmiddleton9872]

Bob Lazar isn’t a physicist by any means

[@SoftHandsGarage]

At 49 I didn't feel as though I was THAT much older than these folks, but after 23 minutes I can no longer 'like' take the 'like' likes anymore. I know it's petty and this was definitely an interesting topic, I wish I could stand it. As I admitted, I'm apparently getting too old. Probably nearing the 'get off my lawn!' phase of life (sigh).

[@fencejumpa2365]

Yikes . .came to see if Bob was legit and stayed for the irony.

[@johnedward8352]

He is.

[@electricblue2920]

He's so legit, and these guys are clearly aliens. That skin suit hardly fits her. Bob Lazar 2020 comrades

[@fencejumpa2365]

@@johnedward8352 I'm still not 100% sure, but everything that's happened to Bob is soooo sus

[@brandonmurphy6083]

Great comment fenceJumpa!!!

[@ericarmstrong6573]

Jeff, first I'd like to state I really enjoy being a subscriber of your channel and watch your debates and mostly your work saving children from Planned Parenthood. Now that being said I am also a subscriber to Tyler's channel Secureteam10, I'm certain you have heard of it. I think it would be very enlightening to see you go on his channel or invite him to come on yours and have a reasonable debate or conversation rather. Anyone reading this and too would like to see this give a thumbs up! 👍

[@johnedward8352]

How come Tyler isnt talking about important ET issues such as the Gimble Vids, the Wilson leak, Bob Lazar etc.? He just shows user videos that are oftentimes clearly flares.

[@ericarmstrong6573]

@@johnedward8352 you must not watch his videos haha Bob has been on his channel as has his movie's director twice!

[@ericarmstrong6573]

@@johnedward8352 Furthermore and not to defend Tyler but wow have you seen some of his videos from people?! Far from blurry... Not to proclaim the existence of aliens or UFOs but it's extremely compelling nonetheless.

[@johnedward8352]

@@ericarmstrong6573 I do watch but you're right I didn't see those. He does have interesting content but I think a lot of times he'll put anything up. He doesn't talk about the politics of ET phenomenon very much and hasn't addressed the Wilson leak, which well might be the most important document leak in history. I feel like he's more tabloid than others sometimes.

[@ericarmstrong6573]

@@johnedward8352 I can't debate that fact. He's become quite lazy at putting up any substantial evidence and content in the past year as well.

[@EricBadong]

Just Googled Bob Lazar and found out that his wife's name is Joy White (which is a combination of the names of the hosts of Sheologians - Joy Temby and Summer White). Just thought it was a funny coincidence.

[@nikulas91]

Wait... are they allowed to use science for a reason to debunk lazar? That’s pretty ironic.

[@DavidMartin-qm3uq]

@the rookie clan clan exactly!

[@kingyellowman8762]

Without the bible there wouldn't be science. The whole point of science is to prove God or disprove God, this was and is the foundation of science. After 2500+ still God's word is the truth ask the scientist and theologians who dedicate their life.

[@nikulas91]

@@kingyellowman8762 negative, the point of science is to understand things they don’t know... science is/was not exclusive to Jews/Christians... lots of cultures ran science experiments, even if they didn’t know that it was science... your world is too small, ur. Looking at things only through a Christian lens... the world is so much bigger. Maybe Christians only use science to prove god (which it always disproves a god so they constantly back pedal or making excuses like things they took literal in the Bible are now metaphors

[@Phil-oy6mw]

​@@nikulas91I have heard how philosophers and scientists will be climbing a hill of study and discovery with God having been at the top all along

[@Astrocade1981]

I'd like to say to Jeff That at 47:47 when he said( basically )that exploration in to UFOs and Aliens always leads away from Jesus, and I know I'm paraphrasing. In my particular life experience that my interest in Aliens,Ufos, and the New Age actually led me back to Jesus and a Biblical world view.

[@matthewmanucci]

Is this a reupload? I can’t help but feel like I’ve listened to this exact episode before.

[@isaacfwwatts]

If scientists said that they had found life of any kind on any other planet 1. Would you believe them? 2. How would it affect your theology?

[@DavidMartin-qm3uq]

Cultish, I have really come to appreciate your podcasts and how you educate the body of Christ about various cults and how to engage them in meaningful conversation. I have been listening to apologia ministries for years now and sincerely appreciate the work that each of you carry out. However, this podcast was very poorly done. It is clear that you have not done your research into the various fields of science, particularly physics which would have been extremely important to know during minute 29:00. The "shelogians." completely misrepresented what Bob Lazar actually stated about element 115 contained in the documentary. The claim of Bob Lazar is that he was hired at S-4 to reverse engineer the propulsion system (what makes it fly) of the UFO contained within the military installation. What Bob says he discovered is that element 115 was the source of the anti-gravity propulsion system. He also explains in detail how this enables the craft to travel at the speed of light without taking on mass (theory of relativity). The entire point Bob Lazar is trying to make is that the United States government has extraterrestrial technology that could literally change the world and how we understand physics. So, obviously, there would not be a way to empirically prove the claims of Bob Lazar. Lazar never once claims that he saw extraterrestrials. Still, he does, however, lead the audience to that conclusion because of the technology he claims he worked very closely with and how it is so far beyond what we are currently able to understand. Lazar also says multiple times that the information he was given was compartmentalized and that a lot of what was told to him through briefings concerning the origins of the craft coming from zeta reticuli could very well have been disinformation. There is a lot of information about element 115 since its discovery and induction to the periodic table. Bob Lazar is not a cult leader, and those who believe him are not cult followers. I can understand why you would want to speak about this; who wouldn't? I do not understand why you're trying to represent that Bob is somehow insane when a lot of his claims can be substantiated. I understand that we cannot empirically prove the notion that the government has extraterrestrial technology or that element 115 does what he claims. This does not negate the fact that Bob lazar worked where he said he worked and is an actual scientist. So, what should we be asking? 1. If Bob is lying, then why? 2. Can we scientifically disprove the notion of an anti-gravity emitter using the laws of physics? 3. Can we empirically prove the government has secretly been working on technology that is so far advanced it would allow us to travel vast distances in the Universe? 4. If extraterrestrials exist, how do we as Christians deal with the issue? So, the people of cultish, if you have any questions about this or concerns, please send me a DM. I would also like to put in this information that I am a recent graduate of Regent University with a B.S. in cyber-security with a concentration on physics.

[@kippa5t0ne5]

This chic that challenges Bob Lazar needs to work on her speaking presentation a little better, and also on the element 115 subject he also got raided for a "order form" by multiple government agencies, Bob lazar himself mentioned he didn't fully understand why and how element 115 worked, one thing he did achieve to show his friends including george knapp was the cloud chamber experiment where the alleged element 115 could bend light.. he also is holding back information because of all the shit that happened to him, I'm sure this chic is very intelligent, but c'mon don't flatter yourself too much. Don't blame bob lazar on the bone measuring device, that was jeremy corbell highlighting that certain subject because alot of ppl didn't believe bob lazar it existed at the time, so just think if that machine is something only classified ppl knew about imagine the shit we don't know about.

[@turnert2005]

Be aware of your own ignorance while empathetically conscience and intuitive of others ignorance and perception of reality. The more you learn, the more you realize you don’t know…… Think about it!

[@creationoflove84]

If anyone is interested in a Christian worldview on aliens I highly recommend Billy Crone. He has a series on his channel. But if you want the snap shot version he has an interview on Prophecy Watchers. He's extremely thorough and has really helped me understand this topic quite clearly.

[@stephk3221]

Very interesting! I follow Christ but it has been a long journey for me and fascination in UFOs, mediums, and things of the like. I always get blown away by how the Bible has laid out literally everything. There really is nothing new under the sun.

[@l.4231]

Bible is bullshit written by man

[@jonathanaldana4941]

@@l.4231 really? Prove it?

[@JT22132]

Not everyone is a white christian who reads the bible. There’s thousands of other religions with people who have just as much conviction in their own God or Gods as these christians do all religions contradict each other and all have one thing in common and thats lack of evidence. I love how these people go on about the requirement for evidence for claims but don’t apply that to the baseless claims made by their religion's cult.

[@rickypickering1201]

How come you guys don’t put the videos on all access? Only the audio,

[@madmartigan1634]

What is the meaning behind the "EZRA" tats on their arms?

[@onemindonespirit]

Mad Martigan an attempt to look hip and cool.

[@Mechanic618]

Edgy Zoological Retail Association. They sell hip t-shirts to animals.

[@streetsmartswing]

51:09 How ironic, and refreshing to hear that.

[@onemindonespirit]

Appeals to physics one minute, believes that Moses and Elijah appeared out of nowhere the next minute.

[@justinnewquist6111]

Not only does God control the supernatural but also Physical Laws and Science. No inconsistency

[@onemindonespirit]

@@justinnewquist6111 That’s the point I’m making.

[@l.4231]

@@justinnewquist6111 prove it

[@RobertJBarnes]

The point of the scanner is it adds creditibily to his claim that he worked there.

[@William_The_Lesser]

“Hypnosis is pagan” says the girl covered in tattoos and piercings.

[@danjohnson887]

Quite so! I thought the same exact thing about her. Seems a bit worldly...

[@creationoflove84]

I've got to full heartedly agree with that...it's actually really sad and frustrating to see. It's a bad witness and confuses people.

[@BasedBalboni]

So if you get a tattoo your practicing something pagan? No. No no.

[@danjohnson887]

@@BasedBalboni Nope, just setting a bad example.

[@nameeman9108]

@@creationoflove84 not others her age and in the same scenes.

[@stevejones9717]

The good news is that Bob doesn't really care if you believe he worked on an Alien spacecraft at S4. He was there and did in fact work on this craft as well as see other craft. he knew about element 115 back before it was even possible to know. It's amazing how some of these idiots just can't get their feeble minds to understand that the universe is massively huge and other life does exist beyond our solar system and is far more advanced. Don't care if you are Christian or not. makes zero difference.

[@shady10493]

@47:40 and that’s why flat earth brought me back to Christianity. God is almighty and efficient. Why would he need to make more space than what the humans he created need to operate? Maybe if flat earth become more publicly known, maybe more people would realize we’re intelligently created and would turn to follow Christ. I’d love for you to have someone on with biblical and flat earth knowledge.

[@darlenen399]

I've seen several things here in Az. Mostly up in Cave Creek. In the late 80 & 90s

[@zorprimal]

Bob has never claimed to have seem aliens there, and has never claimed they were alien space craft....get your facts straight or don't talk about it

[@travisfrance9433]

"From a biblical perspective " lol .....minds are so malleable...

[@ybh8ful]

how do I find part 1?

[@annav6037]

Can someone please link part one of this, I haven’t been able to find it

[@neenasisson]

Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXrThah6ecifa9U

[@brentanton7466]

When you guys say interdeimensional, do you mean demons?

[@cacumbee]

Im not sure if they saw the entire Lazar/Rogan interview. From my perspective, they only saw highlights and not the topics being fleshed out. Examples 115 and the alien craft.

[@cacumbee]

@Robert Dillahuntsville I think we have a fundamental disagreement. Like how the Ford GT was the best car with the Gulf Livery, and not the Porsche 917. ;)

[@cacumbee]

@Robert Dillahuntsville Yeah McQueen made the 917 famous in the movie Le Mans, but the score card at Le Mans is 2-0 of the Gulf Ford GT vs Porsche 917 gulf. 3-0 if you count the Ford Mirage.

[@benchappell9204]

Thanks for sharing

[@duncanmacnevin267]

why can't God and Aliens both exist? If you think that life on earth is the only thing God created and evolved then your god is small. A true almighty would spread life all across the universe. I think you are all being small minded and arrogant to believe that Humanity is gods only creation.

[@apoorfellowsoldierofchrist22]

Hello Do you guys happen to know of good churches in SLC, Utah? I am trying to be in a relationship with god again after being years away from his Grace and trying to find a good biblical church to attend

[@hisbeloved9154]

Private message me. My wife and is would love to meet up.

[@xelionizer]

Great, y'all having a good time. Congratz

[@xAgent_Smithx]

At the 28:00 mark it sounds like he is describing electro gravitics

[@johnnycole7589]

dude...28:32 nose piercing girl, how can you sit on a talk show and and say Lazar never explained what element 115 was? have you ever watched any of his interviews? its ALL he talked about, he described its properties, the weight, size, shape, color, where it sat in the craft, how it was turned on, off, how it was antimatter and even drew several pictures of what it looked like. I'm not saying believe him but for gods sake don't say he didn't do stuff, when he did- do you're homework next time. I would've saved this podcast 20 minutes by stopping her in her tracks and just correcting her

[@submitu911]

She said as Christians we can call THEM crazies lol. I love how the whole thing starts with, so we dont really know the specifics but heres our opinion on it anyway lol. Waste of time, struggled to get to the 7 min mark and just couldnt do it anymore.

[@golfgod6243]

I love that these people are saying “ there is no proof of multiple dimensions “ . When in reality their entire religion is unproven. What about the countless situations throughout the Bible that go against the fabric of physics.

[@crystalhaataja304]

You should go watch the first episode. Christians do believe in multiple dimensions and they touch on what the Bible says in regards to it all in the first episode.

[@golfgod6243]

@@crystalhaataja304 my comment had nothing to do with whether or not Christians believe in it . My point was that it’s a bit hypocritical to say “ there is no proof of multiple dimensions because it goes against the fabric of physics . When MANY things in the Bible have also gone against the fabric of physics . By that logic shouldn’t they believe multiple dimensions are possible?

[@pastorsprinkles]

You tube has this video blocked in restricted mode

[@livefree316]

Spiritual ignorance leads to delusion. The devil knows how to play people and leave them from turning from their sins to Jesus Christ.

[@generaza7609]

Totally freaks me out how the Lazar Sports Model Saucer looks so much like one of the Pleiadian Beamships photographed by Billy Meier.

[@uria702]

Lazar speaks truth. These fools speak nothing of value.

[@JoeyGramms420]

Worked at S4 not area 51

[@USRenewable]

Joe Grant I agree.. these guys/gals are tools.. they don't know squat about what they are talking about

[@perseverance8]

Lazar has made statements surmising the gravity "A wave" IS itself an emission of whatever constitutes the "strong nuclear force" within atoms which in the purported "element 115" isotope extends beyond the outer atomic electron shell, essentially it's own type of electromagnetic emission. Lazar clearly has a science background & I wish he would provide a more in depth description of what he understands about the crafts power & "propulsion" system. It's quite clear in the number of interviews he's given, he is abbreviateing his explanations just as a specialist would when discussing technical matters, though he's articulated there was a limited understanding of the craft he was there to work with and advise on.

[@perseverance8]

@Rumbert Dillahuntsville Please describe how he was "a proven fraud, & liar".

[@perseverance8]

@Rumbert Dillahuntsville I understa d Lazar did NOT discover 115, he has NOT stated he DISCOVERED 115 he has even articulated the possibilty of heavier elements were being discussed in the scientific community.

[@perseverance8]

@Rumbert Dillahuntsville There is no effective way to Prove an S4 facility exists or not one would need to have access to the area to get an idea of what is or is not there though the radioactive wasteland argument is also weak as there are two Japanese municipalities that should'nt be inhabitable if one bought into the stereotypical understanding of radiation contamination.

[@perseverance8]

@Rumbert Dillahuntsville I don't know for sure if Lazar is a fraud of not though I know the general explanation to the "why's" he's simply a UFO nut can be themselves explained, personally I came to know about Lazar some time after I've personally witnessed a "craft" which I can simply describe as a classic flying saucer, where the most striking element of it was in the way it moved, which is virtually indescribable, the way it would stop & suddenly lurch wherever it wanted with a slight bobble in it's change in altitude. I don't know what it is though I can understand people assuming it's Aliens.

[@perseverance8]

@Rumbert Dillahuntsville Absolutely, he could've invented the whole story, people invent stories all the damn time, it's obvious the UFO subject is full of it's woo-woo bull cock stories, though something's going on, I'm not in a position to even tell myself what the hell I witnessed but I can say it's as real as the device I'm tapping away at to reply to you're comment in the same way many others in the world including now more credible witnesses such as navy pilots where the government's whom employ them are apparently softening their tone on the issue away from long running periods of denying the fact they were interested in any reporting of unidentified flying what the fuck.

[@Xandy2dandY]

This was fun. Thank you for all you do Pastor Jeff and everyone!! Do the Sheologians have a KZbin channel?

[@atticuhz6010]

The people that believe in the magic sky dad are skeptical about other lifeforms in an ever infinite universe lol

[@albertsantiago2069]

You have faith that you are correct without actually seeing them just like we do. Your misinformed btw, Children Of God believe aliens are real just not in the way you and i perceive reality. They are demonic and deceive many people into behaving and thinking a certain way by changing their perception of the true path of life set forth by Jesus Christ Of Nazareth. Read the bible and save yourself from the misinformation being spread out there about christ and his ways. Don't just youtube it either .

[@wrongthink5306]

Not really. A lot of them think they’re angels and/or demons. The Bible says there are higher beings than humans, in fact, there was a war between them.

[@ronglennproductions5416]

Dude-This is a video on aliens! Does your worldview make you that blind to the irony in your comment?

[@l.4231]

@@albertsantiago2069 lol you sound ridiculous. there is zero proof scientifically that supports your nonsense

[@albertsantiago2069]

@@l.4231 and there is zero scientifical proof that something can come from nothing and yet here we are. There are millions of scientifically impossible things happening everyday, both on earth and in Space. How can we say, with such a limited view on time and space, that our time here on earth has fully analyzed every aspect of the Truth? Impossible, which is why science has no foundation, it’s always changing with time and new evidence.

[@DanielAguilar-um8kw]

Whomever this woman is , speculating on element 115 and her absurd interpretation of element 115. There is an area of the periodic table where the heavier element s 115 etc heave an equal number of protons and neutrons, electrons. Based on these conditions these elements are highly stable ! And therefore are not radioactive ! These people make the worst arguments because they don't have an elementary understanding of physics and chemistry. Silly , dull minded lemming's.

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

The whole alien thing feels really demonic.

[@clemfan1980]

raahkaa it is look up la marzulli plus I was once involved in the stuff and yeah it is demonic but our savior is stronger then the enemy trust me on that. When you see a demon and the Holy Spirit comes to your defense and gives you words of authority to cast it away. It’s real but greater is he that is in me then he that is in the world.

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

@@clemfan1980 wow, thank you, i will look it up!

[@MansterBear]

It is. Aliens are demons attempting to intrigue humans and get a foothold with them.

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

@@neodark414 you are probably a troll or demon possessed. Or both.

[@coltenstinnett6798]

Same Bone scanners are in Close Encounters of the Third Kind look it up.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Totally gear what you're saying about "It doesn't mean it's Aliens why is everyone so hyped about Lazar being proved correct" . Totally. But I guess you have to take into account that people were saying the guy was a janitor at a las Vegas casino and EVERYTHING he said was BS. So now that over the years its been confirmed that : They did scrub his records They did use the hand bone tech He DID work at area 51 and lost Alimos. He DID know the Area 51 layout and logistics of how you get to work. Element 115 DOES exist. He explained they never knew how it could be used with a short Half-Life. They did threaten his wife. His friends were intimidated. He DID know to the minute when they were testing whatever those aircraft were that were turning at 70 degree angles. He DID know that Gravity works in waves. He knew they were short waves. I agree none of this gives us solid proof that Alien craft existed at groom lake. BUT it certainly validates a HELL OF ALOT of what people for 30 years berated and ridiculed him about. Also people ridiculed and accused his supporters of liars. I'd say there's more proof that Lazar worked at groom lake and worked on one compartmentalized part of a craft, than there is for God.

[@wrongthink5306]

Agree except the last sentence

[@redplanet76]

Serious question, where in the Bible does it say that Aliens couldn't exist?

[@DAnonMusic]

This is part of the reason why they have to slow drip disclosure... Theres no way they can just roll it all out at once. People are not ready for this type of paradigm shift.

[@johnnyboy3864]

so what r ufos. these flying saucers people see? r they government crafts?

[@atticuhz6010]

Why is it hard to believe technology that surpasses our understanding of physics exists? We use to think the earth was flat and discovered otherwise, that's how science works

[@MEshaoWords]

Atticuhz it isn’t hard to believe. It’s hard for THESE people to believe. I was so frustrated hearing their logic that I wish I could go back in time to skip over this.

[@deannashop1]

hi... who is steven van......?

[@DEGRASSI2244]

The last 20 minutes of this video had such profound Christian wisdom. I am very blessed by this episode. So many good responses at the end especially from Jeff “what is the fruit? Where does it lead?” And also his response in saying that we can only have true, genuine use of science, logic, etc. on the Christian worldview while believing in aliens and ufos is a worldview which cannot have basic laws of physics. Also, the women on the left, her explanation of the alien traveling at light speed which would take millions of years-excellent! Such good wisdom. Thank you, Apologia church. All glory be to Christ.

[@cmiddleton9872]

Bob Lazar sounds like a real scientist with scientific authority unless you’re actually a scientist or have a decent higher education science background, at which point he sounds like a goon. His discussion on JRE about gravity as a wave or a particle is a particularly good example. Nothing Lazar says requires more knowledge than one year of freshman general chemistry and general physics at a university.

[@jloaiza9188]

Do you people know who the nephilims are ? Wake up !

[@crystalhaataja304]

Most of you accuse these people of "not doing their research" on this podcast. Well, turn the table. If you'd done research on these people as well as the podcast and show overall, you would know that: A) this is a faith based podcast from people who believe in the God of the Bible And B) the entire point of this show is to take the belief and take it up against scripture.

[@calebkebede3850]

Durbin does not show the incompatibility between Christianity and the existence of aliens and/or UFOs. He simply assumes it. I think William Lane Craig has a better, more informed view of this issue which answers this.

[@billybob-gb6ol]

Congratulations your dad helped get titanium from the USSR for the SR-71

[@jaggedcut8603]

People complaining about Apologia Studios talking about a subject they aren't experts on are all hypocrites! Have YOU ever had a discussion about something YOU weren't an expert on? Should I call you all "bad people" because you fail to see the FACT that modern science proves Jesus Christ, of the Christian Bible, to be who He says He is? Do you Atheists even science, bro? I love saying that! WHO WANTS TO DEBATE ME?

[@estimatingonediscoveringthree]

26:44 - densest packing principal

[@kavunr]

Bob's story is not about aliens. Stop bringing up aliens. Bob's story is about the anti-gravity reactor and element 115.

[@navigatormother7023]

This is sounding like the evolution and Genesis debate. A Christian cannot believe and see the natural science world in one without being cast out by the denizens and purists of the other. Whereas with the brain God gave us it's impossible, sooner or later, not to find the Holy Spirit in it all. Including Bob Lazar's thoughts on the subject. My pastor gave a sermon just on this, because of my stuckness in the issues. He said "God is saying to you... Please don't leave your common sense at the door when you come to Church. You're going to need it here."

[@lostkeys1318]

A bunch of non-informed people having a non-informed conversation.

[@camello52]

Why does Bob not have a hard copy of his degrees? Why diesnt sime one ask his parents how much thet paid for his tuition to CAL State and MIT.

[@brandonmurphy6083]

I honestly like this podcast. But the irony of how they use critical thinking and pretty good logic and reasoning to disprove Bob's testimony of his accounts, but don't use the same logic to critically examine their own religion

[@brandonmurphy6083]

Is not lost on me

[@Sockpoppet]

Why do you guys keep bringing up the bible, I thought this discussion was about Aliens and UFO's?

[@alvarobustillos128]

Love Apologia Studios and the Cultish episodes but i think the criticism offered on Bob Lazar and his testimony is weak. Ive looked into this issue deeply and try to do it from a Christian point of view and think that too many people dismiss his story without really looking at the evidence. But i also don’t blame them because it is a deep rabbit hole to research and there are more important topics to study in the Bible so I give you guys a C+ for trying. Still a fan though and love all the work you do in the Church and also with saving children from abortions!

[@andrewhart6200]

she's right about how x-files cant be watched back now...the same way....in the beginning intro area of the episode

[@wrongthink5306]

Andrew Hart I have the whole set and I still love it

[@raquels1293]

I always read the comments on these videos. I’m a fan of this show! It’s interesting that in the comments section fans of the said cult will usually comment. All the comments on this video tells me that this cult has many passionate followers and Bob Lazar has become a “perfect” man who cannot lie. The only one ☝️ who didn’t lie was Jesus. Every person has lied and so has Bob Lazar. Anyone who is on the Joe Rogan podcast is suspicious to me. Joe isn’t “rebellious” he has millions of followers. His show has an agenda 📔. He leading people to a dark place. Just like this shows’ agenda is to interpret these cults through a biblical worldview. So many people will blindly follow a man. I’m so grateful that Jesus convicted me to only follow him, and that no man is good.

[@atiredblue]

Why are you talking about the Bible! That’s a book someone wrote! And one that stood on a shelf while 11 others were kept in the dark.. religion and foreign parts are a little different

[@lmontesjr]

There's no such thing as hypnosis in the sense of being under the control of something else other than yourself. Hypnosis is nothing more than a label for what is simply, only a committment exercise. If you are of sound mind and body, your are always in complete 100% control of that exercise. How far will you commit? Never to the point of harm. Unless of course you are a psychopath.

[@sstoeckl]

32:14 yes usually the simplest explanation is the truth...apply that to the Jesus claims. Also, immediately following that statement the bearded guy suggests that just because the bone scanner exists doesn’t mean space aliens...pretty sure this guy has made claims that because the biblical accounts of burial practices are historically accurate it suggests Jesus resurrected and is god in flesh. Hilarious what people choose to be skeptical about while being completely un-skeptical about other beliefs they hold.

[@DavidVonR]

If the simplest explanation of the historical facts is that Jesus was resurrected, then what?

[@sstoeckl]

@@DavidVonR I would love to see evidence laid out that the resurrection is a simpler explanation than that the accounts aren't completely accurate or simply fictitious. Telling me that the best explanation for something is that a single violation of all known laws of the universe took place and the evidence we have is some people said it happened has to be up against some significant complexity before it could ever be the simplest explanation.

[@DavidVonR]

@@sstoeckl There is no doubt whatsoever, at least in my mind, that the simplest explanation is that Jesus rose from the dead. I'll even go a step further and say that anyone who looks into it with an open mind will come to the same conclusion.

[@sstoeckl]

@@DavidVonR Well then you and I are on the same side, but with different conclusions - anyone who doesn't view it the way we view it must not be coming to it with an open mind.

[@icelineman]

Dream Land is the name of a X files episode!

[@pierrecharlesdubreuil3457]

RAEL makes people read the bible to verify if what he says is true. So at least he makes people read the bible. I know a few people who were not religious and after reading Rael's book decided not to become raelians but Christians.

[@Patjza80]

Girl on the left... you’ve got to do some more research on what he’s said before you make claims that he hadn’t explained element 115. He’d spoken about thermodynamics on this, different isotope versions of the same element which cause variations of it to be unstable, and even how scientist before him theorized there was an island of stability around element 114-116 and element 220-225 where the element doesn’t not break down and cause radiation. You really need to do some more listening before saying that stuff.

[@Parks179-h]

Joy, her name is Joy. And she is a woman. Make your point, yes. But respectfully, please address her by her name.

[@noirxplorer3185]

You actually have to be intelligent to cover certain topics. Remember that.

[@Pauwwhh]

So what happens when people go to hell and come back ?

[@masonhaney469]

Paulina Coronado they don’t...?