Mormon Street Conversation: Is Jesus God? Part 1

Watch as Oscar Dunlap talking to a Mormon woman outside of the Mormon Temple in Mesa, Arizona, during the recent Easter Pageant. The conversation centers around 'Who is Jesus?' If you are looking to engage with mormons this is an issue that must be addressed.
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[@clearstonewindows]

Please come to my house with what you learn from this link. Once we get past the miss information you can then learn that the restored gospel of Jesus Christ will bring real meaning to your life 🙏

[@SarahRose64]

She seems like such a kind woman. I hope she sees the truth. When she said "you're making some very good points, and no one has ever asked me these questions before," it gave me hope for her.

[@behonest5981]

I liked the part where he says, "do you believe Jesus created all things" and she says, "do you believe that Jesus has a Hevenly Father?" How did Jesus creat his Father or himself. Stop lying about what the scriptures mean. Be honest people.

[@Logosfollower]

@@behonest5981 he created himself in this world in the physical human form = Jesus

[@BONES-kx8bh]

@@behonest5981 jesus christ created the heaven and the erath under the direction of jesus christ

[@14-Peaks]

@@behonest5981 JESUS was a prophet just like MOSES, ABRAHAM, ADAM. Jesus said, "I myself can do nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@thiagoulart]

​​​​​@@14-PeaksNope, He also said "before Abraham was, *I AM"* (John 8:58) and "me and the Father are *ONE"* (John 10:30). The satanic distortion of a "revelation", Islam, belongs to the deepest pits of hell, where the demonic messenger's (piss be upon him) damned soul lies tormented eternally.

[@AbundantHarvests]

First of all, Debbie is absolutely a very sweet woman. Second, this is a very wise approach with Mormons. Bravo. In my early 20s I was engaged to a Mormon. I truly had no idea the differences until I attended their services. During their "school" time, the teacher was discussing "Spirit Worlds". I asked him to show me the scripture in which 7 Spirit Worlds were mentioned. Long story shirt, I was escorted out of the classroom. Shortly after I met a group of ex-Mormons who shared with me that LDS teaches Jesus & Satan are brothers. When I tried to witness the truth to my fiance, he grabbed my Bible out of my hand and I threw it into the fireplace. Thankfully it was summer so no fire. I hope Debbie and her husband learn the truth. God bless you all.

[@henrythecat3094]

Wow. Did you stop the weeding after that?

[@chriskeith5742]

She sounds a little tipsy. Just sayin

[@gymratnoah2259]

Wow! Thanks for sharing.

[@rodnajean9508]

Wow!

[@sherwood07]

Wow that’s an incredible story you’ve made up. Thanks for sharing

[@aliciam3753]

I have respect for her. She stayed and kept talking even though she was visibly uncomfortable. I hope God stirs her heart.

[@gospeltruthsearcher3220]

Amazing video, I left Mormonism 6 months ago with my kids also. I am happy I have found the God of the bible, I am happy I have found a biblical church to fellowship with. God is good all the time, he doesn't want us to live confuse about his gospel which was once deliver to the saints and any other gospel should be a curse.

[@TheStemo1]

Praise God

[@dleoburns]

Gospel Truth Searcher: You should realize that the Authorized King James Version of the Bible is accepted by members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as doctrine/scripture!

[@TheStemo1]

@@dleoburns The LDS church says the King James is scripture but they also claim it is 'missing plain and precious parts' and don't believe the fundamental message of the Bible - that we are doomed to judgment and the only escape is Jesus' sacrifice. LDS believe they earn salvation by 'doing their best and letting Jesus do the rest.'

[@gospeltruthsearcher3220]

@@dleoburns actually the lds church say as long it is translated correctly also it is missing pieces of the scriptures and the bible is corrupted. Articles of faith 1:8. Plus Joseph Smith made some changes to the old testament and new Testament of the king James version. During 1830 to 1833, he also added to Genesis 50.

[@KeltsKey]

Praise God for opening your eyes to His glorious truth, and for bringing you and your children out of Mormonism!

[@christinebubb6658]

My goodness do we need to have our theology as straight as an arrow to speak with a Mormon! The way single words are thrown in that can change the ENTIRE meaning of who Jesus is is incredible. We need to have God's word so hidden in our hearts that we hear the difference in what they're saying immediately. Wow, praise God for this ministry!

[@nerdforlife6544]

🙏 amen

[@pauldunn7000]

The mormon people seem as good people but they are using the coat tails of the true God to further an agenda,, the only true church theres, no salvation without there priesthood. They use Christ Ian's words ,, but have totaly different meanings,,, heavenly father,,, once was a man just like them,, and there heavenly father had a heavenly father as they do today ,that became a God Capitol G ,and they with the priesthood will some day become Gods.. Your out of luck ....jesus wasent enough. There Jesus is there brother not God just as satan is, by means of heavenly father having spirit children with polygamist wives in heaven and children sent to earth into human parents. So when they and other religions say Yes we believe in Jesus to ,, it is important. Only one jesus saves to the utmost only one God is real and if you choose for yourself a false God that false god cannot save anything,, only the true and living God saves. So religions that hide scew there beliefs change definitions of words to deceive you as many do they lead people to hell. But GOD brings his true believers out,, all that remains are people that want the lies of the SERPENT you can become like God , didnt work for Adam or Eve and it will not work for them. Lord Lord haven't we done many great works in your name? Be gone from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you,, be gone , all that you have done is use my name for your false god. And they know it,,,, but not all of them. Satan appears as an angel of light,, if he come looking like the devil you would run so sweet DECEPTION is the only option left... Make the works APPEAR Godly....

[@kingjacob1492]

This ministry also believes in a different jesus!

[@jeannet7443]

Right!!

[@jeannet7443]

@@kingjacob1492 The Latter Day Saints have a different Jesus than the Jesus of the Bible.

[@aunalisaharrison8]

Such a gracious approach to evangelism. I am so encouraged and will be praying for Debbie and her husband! She definitely seemed curious after being approached with these questions. Speaking the truth in love was all that I saw in this conversation. This is the church doing the work of the saints. I pray we would all have the courage to do the same.

[@Controle9165]

She seemed Set in her ways but towards the end you could see the wall’s starting to break but when that happens they always end up leaving they run when it becomes to real.

[@aunalisaharrison8]

@@Controle9165 We can only hope and pray that the Lord is stirring her heart to ask more questions!! We also have to understand that she has probably been a devout Mormon for most of her life, and that when being approached with these questions some people will deny solely for the sake of chasing the comfort they’ve lived in with their religion. After hearing many ex-Mormon testimonies that seems to be the most difficult part because the family unit is something they emphasize so much. That doesn’t mean the Lord isn’t working though!!

[@Controle9165]

@@aunalisaharrison8 I can tell you now that her husband will give her half ass answers to her questions because there’s no possible way you can explain these verses away you either have to flat out reject them all throw the accusation that it’s not translated correctly. Let’s hope that these words of God Pierce their soul.

[@bassistguy13]

What a beautiful and soft heart. Praying for this woman!! May Our Father in heaven have mercy and His Spirit reveal Himself to her! I have so much love for all of these people

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

I'm glad I'm glad you used the word Father in Heaven correctly the problem is these Mormons use crappy apostate heretical Christianity is their basis to use their satanic crap they use the word heaven and father so wrong they don't even understand the basic concept that the word father when it comes to God is figurative it's not literal whenever I've talked to Mormons I've had to clarify the word father is figurative biblically is a relationship not a familial connection.

[@thedailybriefchannel]

Keep these coming! I have been able to use these videos so much when talking with my LDS friend. Thank you!

[@JesusIsLord7773]

Hallelujah

[@user-vc4mp6el1g]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: keep uploading this kind of content. It helps us understand how to debate Biblically. Thanks.

[@adrianjimenez6034]

Or contend for truth, according to 1 Peter 3:15

[@grayman7208]

iv'e said it before and i'll say it again. LOL here is the "ironic" thing. apologetics studio are calvinists. calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are. ... thus god also created evil. therefore since calvinists believe god created evil. they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin. calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. and since calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed jesus from the equation. since god (according to calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ. thus calvinists are not christians. mormons do not believe god created evil. mormons believe god gave every human free will. mormons believe everyone can be saved, because god sent jesus to take the sins of every human upon himself. and therefor all humans who accepts christ's sacrifice can be saved. mormons are more christian than calvinists. LOL

[@user-vc4mp6el1g]

@@grayman7208 Ephesians 1, bro. To paraphrase R C Sproul, it's simply Biblical theology.

[@grayman7208]

@@adrianjimenez6034 i'm not sure your point. mormons agree 100% with 1 peter 3:15

[@grayman7208]

@@user-vc4mp6el1g correct, bro ... it is biblical theology. apologetics studio and r.c. sproul are calvinists. calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are. ... thus god also created evil. therefore since calvinists believe god created evil. they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin. calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. and since calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed jesus from the equation. since god (according to calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ. thus calvinists are not christians. mormons do not believe god created evil. mormons believe god gave every human free will. mormons believe everyone can be saved, because god sent jesus to take the sins of every human upon himself. and therefor all humans who accepts christ's sacrifice can be saved. mormons are more christian than calvinists. it is simply biblical theology, bro.

[@henrythecat3094]

All false religions deny the deity of Jesuschrist.

[@JesusIsLord7773]

True

[@justinhelin2752]

Fact! And this is the dividing line between Christianity and all other false religions (including any who claim Christ, but deny the real Christ).

[@cc3775]

False religions claim the deity of Jesus. They would rather listen to what men teach than what scripture actually says.

[@douglasmcnay644]

@@cc3775 So all of the "I AM" statements of Christ and the direct parallels He used (i.e. Son of Man, among other titles only reserved for one who receives worship) from the Old Testament to speak about Himself are just the machinations of men?

[@cc3775]

@@douglasmcnay644 Trinitarians argue that this verse states that Jesus said he was the “I am” (i.e., the Yahweh of the Old Testament), so he must be God. That argument is not correct. Saying “I am” does not make a person God. The man born blind that Jesus healed was not claiming to be God, and he said “I am the man,” and the Greek reads exactly like Jesus’ statement, i.e., “I am.” The fact that the exact same phrase is translated two different ways, one as “I am” and the other as “I am the man,” is one reason it is so hard for the average Christian to get the truth from just reading the Bible as it has been translated into English. Most Bible translators are Trinitarian, and their bias appears in various places in their translation, this being a common one. Paul also used the same phrase of himself when he said that he wished all men were as “I am” (Acts 26:29). Thus, we conclude that saying “I am” did not make Paul, the man born blind or Christ into God. C. K. Barrett writes: Ego eimi [“I am”] does not identify Jesus with God, but it does draw attention to him in the strongest possible terms. “I am the one-the one you must look at, and listen to, if you would know God.” [1] 2. The phrase “I am” occurs many other times in the New Testament, and is often translated as “I am he” or some equivalent (“I am he”-Mark 13:6; Luke 21:8; John 13:19; 18:5, 6 and 8. “It is I”-Matt. 14:27; Mark 6:50; John 6:20. “I am the one I claim to be”-John 8:24 and 28.). It is obvious that these translations are quite correct, and it is interesting that the phrase is translated as “I am” only in John 8:58. If the phrase in John 8:58 were translated “I am he” or “I am the one,” like all the others, it would be easier to see that Christ was speaking of himself as the Messiah of God (as indeed he was), spoken of throughout the Old Testament. At the Last Supper, the disciples were trying to find out who would deny the Christ. They said, literally, “Not I am, Lord” (Matt. 26:22 and 25). No one would say that the disciples were trying to deny that they were God because they were using the phrase “Not I am.” The point is this: “I am” was a common way of designating oneself, and it did not mean you were claiming to be God. 3. The argument is made that because Jesus was “before” Abraham, Jesus must have been God. There is no question that Jesus figuratively “existed” in Abraham’s time. However, he did not actually physically exist as a person; rather he “existed” in the mind of God as God’s plan for the redemption of man. A careful reading of the context of the verse shows that Jesus was speaking of “existing” in God’s foreknowledge. Verse 56 is accurately translated in the King James Version, which says: “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.” This verse says that Abraham “saw” the Day of Christ, which is normally considered by theologians to be the day when Christ conquers the earth and sets up his kingdom. That would fit with what the book of Hebrews says about Abraham: “For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God” (Heb. 11:10). Abraham looked for a city that is still future, yet the Bible says Abraham “saw” it. In what sense could Abraham have seen something that was future? Abraham “saw” the Day of Christ because God told him it was coming, and Abraham “saw” it by faith. Although Abraham saw the Day of Christ by faith, that day existed in the mind of God long before Abraham. Thus, in the context of God’s plan existing from the beginning, Christ certainly was “before” Abraham. Christ was the plan of God for man’s redemption long before Abraham lived. We are not the only ones who believe that Jesus’ statement does not make him God: To say that Jesus is “before” him is not to lift him out of the ranks of humanity but to assert his unconditional precedence. To take such statements at the level of “flesh” so as to infer, as “the Jews” do that, at less than fifty, Jesus is claiming to have lived on this earth before Abraham (8:52 and 57), is to be as crass as Nicodemus who understands rebirth as an old man entering his mother’s womb a second time (3:4). [2] 4. In order for the Trinitarian argument that Jesus’ “I am” statement in John 8:58 makes him God, his statement must be equivalent with God’s “I am” statement in Exodus 3:14. However, the two statements are very different. While the Greek phrase in John does mean “I am,” the Hebrew phrase in Exodus actually means “to be” or “to become.” In other words God is saying, “I will be what I will be.” Thus the “I am” in Exodus is actually a mistranslation of the Hebrew text, so the fact that Jesus said “I am” did not make him God. 5. Trinitarians claim that the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus because he was claiming to be God (John 8:59), but that is an assumption. There is a different explanation that is supported by better evidence: the Jews picked up stones to kill Jesus because they understood he was claiming to be the Messiah. At Jesus’ trial, the High Priest asked, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God” (Matt. 26:63). First of all, we should notice that no one at the trial asked Jesus if he were God. However, if they thought he had been claiming to be God, that would have certainly been a question they would have asked. The High Priest asked Jesus in very clear terms if he was the Christ because that is what the Jews knew Jesus was claiming to be. Second, when the Jews heard Jesus’ clear answer (“Yes, it is as you say”), they accused him of blasphemy and said, “He is worthy of death” (Matt. 26:66). They felt he was worthy of death in the record in John 8, but in that record they picked up stones to kill him, while after hearing his “blasphemy” at the trial, they took him to Pilate and got the Romans to execute Jesus.

[@bethjack3000]

I love to see the respect and humility in this exchange. A good representation of the scriptures Oscar. I need to take notes.

[@michaelblanco6665]

I love her humility. I pray Hod would reveal the truth of the Gospel to her, the true Gospel. God bless this brother and sister.

[@cc3775]

What it is the truth of the Gospel?

[@halffull5384]

@@cc3775" For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23 Jesus died in place of us because of our sin. We are saved by grace through faith alone in Jesus. Not by works, so no man shall boast and God gets all the glory. Jesus is also part of the triune God . God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. We must worship in spirit and in TRUTH.

[@cc3775]

@@halffull5384 sorry but you’re wrong. Jesus is not God. God is immortal, God cannot be tempted. No where in scripture does it refer to Jesus as Yahweh. Jesus refers to Yahweh as his father and his God. I’ll take Jesus’s word over man’s any day. Stop creating contradictions where there are none.

[@cc3775]

@@halffull5384 “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭18:18‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@halffull5384]

@@cc3775 Jesus is immortal as well. "In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. He existed in the beginning with God. God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone." John 1:1‭-‬4 NLT

[@gi169]

This was an awesome video. I hope the Lord reaches this lady. The young man speaking to Debbie was inspiring as well. What an amazing interaction... Can't wait for part two.

[@truckerbaty7425]

This was awesome, and the choir in the background is beautiful.

[@blacksuburban2410]

That last dude darn near set an Olympic record time sprinting to break up the conversation when Miss Debbie said that the questions were so compelling that she’s going to go investigate the matter. The initial response reflex was to chuckle… however, there’s NOTHING in this life /universe more important than getting it right. Souls and Eternity are on the line here!!! Sin along with the separation from God as a result of that sin are so serious to God that He poured out His wrath on what’s most precious to Him… the perfect love shared between the two.

[@aarontorres3888]

Please keep these videos coming! It's all I like to watch

[@Fetsimo]

The difference between creator and creation is everything. Great job! 👏✝️

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

Difference between man and Lord is everything too cuz Lord is an eternal entity man is a finite man has a beginning and an end man can disappear Lord cannot know what this tells us not just you and me but anyone who is a brain stem or any spiritual discernment at all is that these Mormons are in fact a lot of areas atheist they're satanic atheists and they they display this alot.

[@chrisandchenoa]

Love this ministry but why did he lie about knowing it was being filmed? That rubs me the wrong way :/

[@alicia6650]

I'm wondering this too, unless they genuinely didn't know?

[@jackwhitaker2829]

It rubs me the wrong way too. Even though they’re on public property I feel like it would still be nice and respectful to at least tell them that they’re being recorded before they start talking.

[@jackmoreno5988]

I have to say, Oscar did a wonderful job approaching and speaking truth to this woman. 👏 👏 👏

[@blesdeb]

I appreciate this. I’m a descendent of a very dysfunctional Mormon family. Ironically I am also named Debbie. I am a reformed Christian. Following John Calvin, Martin Luther, and according to Pilgrims Progress. I believe in the Bible. I’m grateful for the kindness these people are showing. Praying for Debbie

[@Aaryq]

Debbie was such a sweet lady. Please pray for her and her husband

[@Jimmyjimbert0]

Beautiful conversation. Thanks for sharing!

[@ourwholesomehome4967]

Makes me emotional for Debbie. There seems to be humility in her where she really will look into this. I hope she digs and doesn’t just accept the answers she finds from the Mormon church. Lord guide her in Your truth.

[@BrunoMCDowell]

Praise the LORD. AWESOME CONVERSATION! Well done!

[@butofcorpse6765]

I have a coworker who I just found out he is LDS, and I have barely any time to talk to him as his residency is almost up. Pray that I am given time and wisdom to talk more with him and preach Christ truthfully and patiently.

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

Don't be afraid to say Mormon just say Mormon 100 times they can't stop it the more you push it on them the more they'll admit to that the LDS or LSD devilism hide will fail them and they'll have to go back to their real name Mormon.

[@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023]

Good job Oscar and Amanda, love Apologia family ❤️✝️

[@kar7795]

This guys patience is amazing

[@Maison1990]

I MISS THIS TYPE OF CONTENT. Thank you!

[@mgbow-1982]

It takes one conversation to change a life. Keep it up.

[@reachvictoria3386]

I love that the tough questions are being asked for we cannot live in a vacuum. Praying for the souls of the many in the LDS church.

[@BONES-kx8bh]

As a mormon this lady wasn’t a very knowledgeable person of our gospel and every question that was asked i have the answer to all of them

[@StokesCheri]

Beautiful, sweet, deluded woman. Thanks brother for confronting her with grace and truth!! 🙌🏼

[@XGMC921]

Daaaam... Y'all was droppin serious knowledge this night.. great job .. Shalom 🙏

[@bryankeithr16]

Praying that the gospel would continue to ring out.

[@AlexanderTate.]

Yes yes yes. Thank you. I love seeing these. God bless you all

[@richardhill895]

I love this lady I really hope she comes to know who Jesus really is. The Jesus that saves. God bless everyone in this video.

[@emmytones8311]

Beautiful respectful interaction and productive conversation between all involved. That woman is so so sweet! 😊 Praying that she may know Jesus, the One and only true Christ. And although I think these things matter while we're here and it's healthy to test our faith and understanding, that God will ultimately reveal everything to us when we meet Him.

[@cfrost87]

When he asked why she believes in Mormonism, and she gave her response about her heart, my thought is that our hearts are deceitful above all else. We can't trust our own hearts to guide us. We have to trust God's truth.

[@Kapayapaanman]

When did your heart last device you?

[@cfrost87]

@@Kapayapaanman It does all the time. Without God, I'm selfish and only look out for myself and my own best interests.

[@Kapayapaanman]

@@cfrost87 how do you know which I god and which is your heart?

[@cfrost87]

@@Kapayapaanman Reading scripture helps to be able to discern the two.

[@LetsTalkChristMinistries]

She was very receptive. I pray those seeds planted, God will bring people into her life, strong doctrinally sound believers, to water those seeds.

[@Gabriel19760]

You go Debbie, keep asking questions. I really hope and pray that you've been predestined for Christ 🥳

[@charleyseymour957]

"Nobody has asked me these questions before". Wow. Thanks for your work.

[@TruthWillprevail13]

Thank you Jesus for dying for my sins. I’m still trusting in you even though I’m struggling putting groceries in the refrigerator, and paying bills. I lost my job because I declined the vaccine. I declined because of my pre existing health condition (Lupus) and Heart disease. I was denied my medical/religious exemption from Forsyth Hospital. My husband passed away three years ago, Im all alone. I’m a single mother. Both of my sons are autistic and non verbal. Every month is a struggle, a battle to not end up on the streets. I’m so depressed and embarrassed by my situation. I post my story all over to spread awareness of what mandates are doing, not just to myself but to many other families. I’ve been put down and mocked because of my circumstances it truly hurts me. BUT even after all these things. I STILL HAVE FAITH GOD WILL PROVIDE. He has sent strangers to help me. I’m forever grateful! EVEN as I face homelessness seemly every month with two young children. I have faith our Heavenly Father will provide. Thank you Jesus.

[@marymccary9869]

Praise God for Your Faithfulness and Loyalty!!! Father God, Continue to provide for this Sister constantly and consistently. Make sure that She is well supplied so that She and her family will not be homeless. Give her whatever She needs. In the Mighty Name of Your son Jesus Christ Amen

[@TruthWillprevail13]

@@marymccary9869 Amen

[@adrianobattaglia4060]

I feel your pain. Today I was thrown out by a doctor, bc of my critic about her covid histeria. I was not good in my aproach and sorry for that. There are moments, where I don't react as I should. I wasn't too agressive. But I was too direct. They are a cult. They really don't see what's coming for all of us. Just look at poor china. They want to enslave us like in Orwells book. I have a cold. And all she can think is covid. Then she want to test me with this frauds tests from china. She could just test me like a normal doctor by looking inside my mouth and so on. They are so blinded. I feel like this crazy guys living on the streets warning for the apocalypse. But nobody takes them serious. Like in some older movies from the 90s. God bless you. I'll pray for you. They can kill the body. But not our souls. I know, its not helping. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna lying. I'm scared of the times before us. I have 2 wonderfull sons and their mother is sadly not saved, a nihilist and runs from the truth. We are devided since 2016. I try to warn her, but she don't wanna listen. She once said, that I'm a secterian. The irony is amazing. One of the many signs of the endtimes is, that somehow we are the crazy people. And all the deluded wicked ones are the normal. Anyway, God bless you all.

[@jessicac6787]

Praying for you! And I'm glad you stood your ground I have so many friends with injuries from this shot! You made the right choice.

[@shelleyg218]

May the Lord’s mercy be upon you and your precious children 🙏

[@travdad_1]

Great work, you two! Praise the Lord. Thankful for Debbie's willingness to have a challenging conversation. I'm curious what the guy at the end said to them though!

[@MexicanMartialArts]

I don't like the way she said, "YOU won't forget my last name." 🤣

[@carsonmast4257]

This women is so sweet it warms my heart I havnt seen the whole video up but I hope she finds the true Christ

[@ryanmeza6887]

“In that day many will say to me, “Lord, Lord… then I will say, depart from me for I never knew you”

[@MiklRngr]

Debbie ... you are awesome! Good job Apologia.

[@jake-up1027]

If I didn’t nitpick the Bible, I would be an atheist right now. Glory to God.

[@riveroflife9956]

Wow praise God for that!

[@stopthescammers1362]

How do you get past the contradictions and errors in the Bible?

[@evan910]

@@stopthescammers1362 there aren’t any.

[@iamtheteapot7405]

@@stopthescammers1362 If you present some of them here, myself and others would be happy to go through them with you and answer any questions you have.

[@RansomedSoulPsalm49-15]

HALLELUJAH. Praise God

[@NC-Mama]

Praying for Debbie!! What a sweet woman who genuinely has been taught confusing things about God. Let this woman research and find the truth!! Debbie we are praying for you and your family!!

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

Satanically devilish things that are too confusing about God that are from the Devil the devil is very sneaky at this the more I cult can't hide it Satanism but it uses Christian words that aren't words at all

[@Sundayschoolnetwork]

Here's also what matters, Jesus said "he is the way..." There is no other way. "He is the truth," there's one truth. Lord, open Debbie's eyes.

[@ironmany123]

Praise God, this conversation really was great.

[@kennethrandolph2495]

That was Beautiful.

[@lukehanscom482]

Wonderful..you ask the right questions so as to see the folly in the movement that they are in

[@reaper5454]

This is awesome. I wish my church went out and did stuff like this

[@zacdredge3859]

Maybe you could start a ministry for it. 👍

[@Dodong_JekJek]

Haha when the girl on the left said she didn’t know they were recording.. give me a break lol 😆

[@sadaemry719]

So good, thank you brother and sister for this. I have been battling to get my Jehovah Witness father to hear and understand this very thing. There is a really cognitive dissonance when it comes to the words in red! What Jesus said is what he meant and our Heavenly Father is not a father of confusion.

[@davidcampbell5979]

He's also not the same being manifest in 3 ways etc. like Christians claim.

[@michaeljohnston1448]

Correct but the powers that be are complete masters of confusion through illusion.

[@hibrustea]

@@davidcampbell5979 Gen 1:2 confirms Duality. Gen 1:3 and John 1:1 confirms Trinity. Spirit of God is used here. Son of God is written in 1 Jon 4:15. Capital S just as Spirit of God. There would be confusion and error if these personages were not in unison but of different entity. Even the phrase "of God" should give an obvious cue that this is not a manifestation but simultaneous existence of personages of one nature. Mormons or any other person who don't agree with the trinity just have a hard time coping with the Bible confirming itself.

[@davidcampbell5979]

@@hibrustea When did I say I was mormon?

[@hibrustea]

@@davidcampbell5979 when did I say you were? I’m pretty sure I said “Mormon or any other person…”

[@heartsoul4386]

Lovely woman. Sincere. And obviously talented snd committed. How important evangelism is!!

[@Tyl3r_B]

I love how he used the Bible to show the inconsistency of the Mormon position

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

And you know what notice what she does she plays the North and intellectual dishonesty extreme dishonesty she has searches her own cult doctrine of evil into the text or onto their words try to cut them off or try to be inconsistent which is so dishonest I mean it's the only way you can reach out to morons is you have to almost control the situation and force them to honesty and then point out the facts to them to get them to think and then you have to babysit them to make sure they don't screw up because of how f***** up their Doctrine is pardon my French but it's just it's so infuriating and so gross that they can just get away with this stuff and no one did anything about it I mean these Colts speak christianese as well as just religionies and make it look like it's genuine when it's not even close upon anything imaginatively genuine but anti that.

[@senceoffence34]

Love these talks guy's, good work

[@destinfarr]

Lord, please bless this woman with Your wisdom and knowledge of who You are, in the name of Jesus.

[@georgeluke6382]

Thanks for the gracious and clear example.

[@DebbieWestCoon]

Hello my dear brothers and sisters! I’m surprised! This is really on KZbin! I didn’t know I was being filmed for the most part and I did get nervous but it’s been very enlightening for me. I want to thank you all so much for being so kind and loving to me! I’m grateful for the kind comments Ive received for my music and my voice and for me! Thank you! You truly have the light of Christ in you! May God always be with you and bless you all! I made a few mistakes I’m embarrassed about and I need to fix one of them right now. There is God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Ghost. They are as one. I made other mistakes and I apologize for my weakness. I do need to strive more and pray to understand the teachings in our scriptures. Our world is getting so crazy and war is raging against all Christians. I’m so grateful that the gospel of Jesus Christ never changes and we have scriptures to guide us to choose the right. I just wish there wasn’t so much confusion! This is a major part of our test here. How will we treat others that don’t think like we want them too? People here have shown me love! I admire that so much! I would love to be a part of an interfaith event where nothing but the love of Jesus Christ and love for each other can be felt. We may have some differences. We’ve seen our differences all up and down the universe. We can all agree, that God loves each and everyone of us and He hears and answers our prayers! The more of us that can all pray together for our country to be saved from the devastation of Satans evil plans and his secret combinations the more we can all be saved. We can be United for this purpose. Let’s bring Christians together and save this promised land! We have been blessed to be here at this time. Let’s win the war against Satan together! This is my dream and it’s my fathers dream. I’ll also add that my father has passed away but he was a great teacher of Jesus Christ and he was also a health missionary. I love to carry on his example. His favorite song was “Let There Be Peace On Earth”. He asked mixed denomination audiences to sing along together in every meeting he held. I invite you to sing it too! You have been a light to me! Thank you! 🙏❤️🙏 Let There Be Peace On Earth www.dropbox.com/s/x49zkix1x7hxbo9/Debbie%20West%20Coon%20-%20Let%20There%20Be%20Peace%20V3-211111-1644.wav?dl=0

[@DebbieWestCoon]

Oh and if there is a way for you to save or down load and repost “Let There Be Peace On Earth” so it doesn’t take anyone away from this reply spot here, you have my permission. I hope I haven’t been in violation. This is my gift to you! ❤️

[@Mrsunny649]

Hello, Debbie. We must understand who Jesus Christ is and who He is not to have our faith aligned correctly. Before the beginning, He existed as the Word by which the cosmos was created. He was born as God incarnate to live a perfect life as a man to qualify to be an acceptable sacrifice to atone for mankind's fallen state of sin. Because death had no power over Him, he arose out of the tomb and ascended to the right hand of the Father, subsequently sending God the Holy Spirit to empower Christians to follow after Jesus Christ in faith. Because of His sacrifice on the cross and conquest over death, those who receive the gift of eternal salvation must worship Jesus Christ as God, for He is the only way to the Father (He and the Father are God; He, the Father, and Holy Spirit are God). Jesus is not merely a good teacher, prophet, or angel. Jesus Christ is both fully man and fully God. I hope this helps and encourage you to ask the Lord in your prayers to clarify who He is so you can follow Jesus as a disciple and grow spiritually. In addition, as disciples of Christ, we must study the scriptures daily, asking the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Truth) to teach us their meaning and allow Him to transform us into the image of Christ.

[@tomjohnson9527]

Hi Debbie! I listened to one of your songs and God gave you a gift of singing. One thing to consider. Because God is the truth who alone declares reality, that means are line of reasoning from earth to His throne must be without error or contradiction, otherwise how can we know the One who alone declares the truth? Also, I'm assuming we both agree that God is Almighty and perfect--consider this--how can we come to know the perfect Almighty God if He could not get His word right the first time? Where does it end if man can corrupt His word? Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, beginning and the end (Genesis and Revelation). Then some centuries later we have the Roman Catholic Church, then Islam, then Mormonism, and the Jehovah's Witnesses. Who was the one who started the first and greatest rebellion in heaven? Lucifer, now known as Satan. He is the author of confusion. Jesus Christ plainly says for us to deny ourselves daily and pickup our cross and follow Him. Let us do that, and what error could we be in? We cannot love our family, friends, religion, or even our own lives more than the truth! God bless you Debbie! I hope this message finds you well...

[@hayday4304]

Hey Debbie, What a beautiful response. I hope you will come to the truth that you don't need to keep striving for perfection. The whole point of the true gospel is that we can never be perfect and that is why God sent His Son to be perfect for us. Jesus lived a perfect sinless life for us and then took all our sins upon Himself on the cross when He died for us. He is our perfect substitute in every way. He gives His perfection to anyone who believes in Him. This is how he saves us and why He is our Savior. There is no more striving but rather trusting in Jesus Christ, God in the flesh who has paid it all for us. The gospel is all about Jesus, Who He is and what He alone has accomplished. "It is Finished". Jesus is everything that you need, our High Priest who lives forever to intercede on our behalf. May God bless you and may The Truth set you free!!

[@DebbieWestCoon]

Hello Hay Day, Thank you for your comments. I am loving this opportunity to hear you testify of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. I am concerned that people believe that they don’t need to strive for perfection. What else do we have to do with our lives than to try to do it better every day? If we strive for perfection, we can better our lives and bless the lives of others. We won’t be perfect in this lifetime I know that. But I do believe we can always better ourselves and perfect ourselves and as we do our lives would be better all the time. Practice makes perfect. We fall all the time, we need to pick ourselves up, brush ourselves off forgive ourselves as we are forgiven and keep trying to do it better even if it’s again and again and again we should never give up. Life is Eternal. Jesus said, “Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. This means He has asked us to strive for that perfection. He would not ask us if it was unachievable and we do have Eternity. To make perfection our goal is in our best interest. When we strive, we realize just how weak we are and how much we need our Savior in our lives. We are more humbled and become closer to Him. I know this is true and I also know more than ever how much Jesus Christ loves me and each and everyone of us. I hope this makes sense and helps to understand why I want to strive for perfection. I’m far from being perfect but I know I should keep trying.

[@DaremoDaremo]

They LIED...."I didn't know you were being recorded!!" Oh heck. That is low!!

[@samuelarambula2884]

For real… that was wrong

[@shanevassallo]

Why did the Christian lady not know that the conversation is being recorded? Apologia always records their interactions.

[@humz403]

I'm just speculating, but it looks like there might be a group of them ministering. Cameraman is probably jumping between several different conversations.

[@Leonardtank]

They lied

[@Oscardunlap]

@@Leonardtank Very assuming of you to say. Were you there in order to give a true account as to what take place or are you simply speculating. You should fear the possibility of breaking God's law by bearing false witness. Just a suggestion.

[@Leonardtank]

@@Oscardunlap no need to fear anything when they are mic’d up sir. They are mic’d up for recording purposes sir. Nice try. They lied because you can’t record people without permission or letting them know. But again, nice try sir.

[@Oscardunlap]

@@Leonardtank Wrong again. Multiple people were micced up that night... I know because I am the guy in the video. If you are truly a pastor as your name suggested, or a Christian at all for that matter, you'd be a much better example by emulating God's wisdom: If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. (Proverbs 18:13, ESV)

[@shevy7197]

"that's a different person, that's not the same person", spot on bang x

[@daltonballard8309]

She said Jesus is a God so she believes in 2 God's "To you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord is God; there is no other besides him." Deuteronomy 4:35

[@iamtheteapot7405]

Amen 🙏

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

Then say no father but him it says no other ruler of this or no it says no God but him saying God an actual God entity aktheism and there's none other but him no God but him not the role of a father which is what a God does to Mortals dead or alive he's fatherly to them he's not their father literal but he makes them and controls them and can end them so he's our Fatherly and Kingly etc.

[@Kapayapaanman]

“I didn’t know we were being recorded.” While also mic’d up. That’s not a lie at all.

[@hyperbull9659]

As a Mormon this gave me much to think about.

[@davidcampbell5979]

There's a great book that helped me a lot. It's called " Are mormons christians? by Stephen E Robinson. You should get it if you can.

[@Vampyrekai]

Keep watching the content by Apologia and hopefully God will lead you to His truth. His sheep hear His voice and they will not follow a stranger. God never fails to save His sheep.

[@JollyFlys]

God begets God. God is not a mere man, but God can become man while being more than man. This man is Jesus Christ. A good man. Only God is good.

[@JollyFlys]

@@boltrooktwo Jesus is perfect like His Father. Jesus commands people to be perfect like His Father, Good like His Father, will they ever be able to reach that perfection?? Only with God, only with the Savior, Jesus. Jesus does not lie, Jesus is the Good Shepherd, only God is good. He is One with the Father, One God. Jesus is the Savior of the world, the only Savior God. There is a difference between being an adopted Son and being a begotten Son. Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son, making Him God in flesh unlike the others called sons of God.

[@JollyFlys]

@@boltrooktwo Nothing is impossible with God. To reach the perfection and the commandment to be perfect, we need God. Did not state that it was impossible. Yes, the Father is the Father of the disciples and the One true God, but the disciples are not the Father's begotten Sons, we are adopted sons (Ephesians 1:5). Jesus does not lie, He is the good Shepherd and One God with the Father. We are not One with the Father, we are to be One church like Jesus and the Father are united in One God, like a family is united through blood out of three persons. We are to be a family as a church. Jesus is not a liar and He is the Only Savior of the World as He stated. I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior. isaiah 43:11 For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost. luke 19:10 And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. acts 4:12

[@TheStemo1]

Gotta have a humble and compassionate spirit when evangelizing. We don't want to come off as 'better than' or superior since we are saved by grace.

[@ohheygoldi]

I was thinking tHat too

[@jesus.is.god.forever.bless2047]

KING JESUS! THE ONLY TRUE GOD!

[@cc3775]

Jesus is not God. Acts 2:22.

[@dustinwatkins9284]

I believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly, I also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God also. This sister stood her ground well! Proud Latter-Day Saint.

[@davidsfuntimes9899]

Can't deny her zeal!! She is sweet. Sounds like she is a recent convert to Mormonism. Convictions are difficult to overturn.

[@glasspreacher8436]

Mormons remind me of hippies. "I love that you love, maaan. We don't need to be exact, though man. Let's say everyone is right, ya know. No judgy judginess maaan. Okay man?"

[@glasspreacher8436]

@John S. Great points.

[@leef_me8112]

Joseph Smith, the first leader of Mormons, was "told" that all christian sects and all those who profess are not true. At some time Mormons said all churches are wrong. LDS reestablished the church that was lost. These days they want people to ignore those prior statements, and get people to agree LDS are Christian TOO!

[@glasspreacher8436]

@@leef_me8112 Agreed. The fact that they are running from their 'prophet's" truth claim isn't surprising. It's all an exercise in rejecting the true and living Christ.

[@JTsubconscious8]

Just a thought I like to share that came to my mind lately: when Moses ask God what is His name, then God said "I am who I am" w/c indicates nobody created God because there was no name given to Him who existed before him, if God was created He could have said to Moses or say the same way we creatures say like, "my parents named me..., my father named me this and that etc." because we were created by our parents hence, we received names by them or when we invent, create or discover something we name them.

[@nerdforlife6544]

You were amazing. Thanks for sharing your conversation. She needs to come to the real Jesus!

[@mico6691]

We were all lost sheep at one time , God bless that lady and bring her home to you please 🙏

[@adrianobattaglia4060]

The LDS church is full in the fusion of all religions movement, pushed by the roman catholic church. Eukomenism I think is the name.

[@iamtheteapot7405]

Ecumenism

[@tuchesuavae]

She's so pleasant. You can see her wheels turning and a bit of her fear in seeing her world view being dismantled

[@riveroflife9956]

Satan has been twisting theology from the beginning!

[@cc3775]

Sorry but Satan is a false doctrine

[@hayday4304]

Great conversation! I pray a seed was planted. Debbie knows there is a battle waging against truth. That is exactly why these people are out there nit picking. We cannot come together and fight unless we are putting the Truth first. There are substantial differences in what the LDS church teaches and what the Bible teaches. The differences are substantial enough that they both cannot be true at the same time. I pray that she will understand the importance of The Truth. Nothing we are battling on this earth will matter if we aren't standing on the Truth of Who God is and What He alone Has done for us. It is the ultimate Truth, and it most definitely matters. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻

[@adrianobattaglia4060]

I admire what you guys do. But its not good to stay too long on the intellecual level. You should go to the conscience. They have to see, how lost they are and that their works can't save them. I'm not saying you did something wrong. Just a constructive critic. I had often this problem, that we got nowhere bc of the many possible rabbitholes. Love you guys. God bless you all.

[@markusmarquez1669]

100% agree

[@shevy7197]

"nobody has asked me this questions before" gives testimony to our efforts in preaching to the lost, but maybe there is hope for her since she's open minded apparently x

[@tarachapman916]

I can feel the fireworks coming

[@selinaogorman8380]

Debbie is so right on lots of things what a sweet woman she was right about putting up walls amen am sure a seed was planted inside of her and the whole truth comes to her the real Jesus of the Bible can deliver and set her free pray for Debbie.🙏🏻

[@godsstruggler8783]

The first three and a half minutes are so telling. The lady begins by confidently asserting that all present are Christians and follow the same Jesus as if even the notion of 'another Jesus' is something never to be considered. By the end of that three and a half minutes she is flustered, conflating word meanings, confused over the plain reading of Scripture and even saying that she needs to call her husband to come and help. The person of Jesus is the point at which most conversations with Mormons, Christadelphians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, Hindus and others - wherever another Jesus is believed upon - should begin.

[@sometimesismile]

This was so good.

[@lordofthered1257]

As a former Mormon I know the love and kindness that Mormons can have. It really is a shame that they have such weird beliefs. I

[@davidcampbell5979]

Like the father, son , and holy spirit are the same being? Yup that's really weird since the Bible never said that or anything even close to that.

[@lordofthered1257]

@@davidcampbell5979 Thanks for showing me you don't read the Bible.

[@davidcampbell5979]

Where in the Bible did it say this? Where? I'll wait...

[@lordofthered1257]

@@davidcampbell5979 John.

[@perttisuorsa4678]

​@@lordofthered1257 Where in John ? Is the trinity mentioned somewhere in the old testament ? I do not think so. God could have said: " I am one and I am three" but He never said that. Not even once !

[@kazuma675]

Best Mormon response I heard after leaving the church almost 8 years ago but her and her husband did such a great job with there answers in truly surprised. Yeah they could of got into deeper stuff but that would of made her run away or in a bad mood very interesting approach. Maybe can get them back for a few more and slowly hit on other subjects and let them lead to an extent then finish strong

[@stephenbrett2028]

Something is stirring in her.

[@UncleDrew90210]

Stay strong Debbie! Stay true to your beliefs! This world will tru to take it away

[@topgun1331]

I pray Debbie's eyes 👀 🙏 are opened and she receives the true God. 👍

[@kayhamilton3947]

To quote Braxton Hunter “if you are wrong about Jesus it doesn’t matter what you get right”.

[@Yocarisfastlike]

This is beautiful

[@MexicanMartialArts]

Don't lie about recording tho.. 🤦🏻‍♂

[@gc1438]

Yeah, I wondered about that. I wonder if within groups they alternate recording different people, and if, for whatever reason they didn’t realize this session was being recorded. Why lie? It would be great to see Apologia acknowledge this and clear up whatever happened there. I appreciate the boldness and thorough studying of scripture that goes into this, but I’m certain they don’t wish to deceive people. There’s no need for that here. That aside, I applaud these two for their loving and insightful interaction. A blessing to see and I hope they keep it up.

[@natesaub]

Apologia. You need to respond to this, or risk losing your credibility. Viewers, we need to demand a response from them.

[@icemaun5379]

As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (LDS church) The answer to this gentleman’s question “Did Jesus create all things?” Is YES. The reason why is because of the fact that Jesus Christ and Jehovah are the exact same person. “32. By the word of my power, have I created them, which is Mine Only Begotten Son, who is full of gave and truth 33. And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten. “ Moses 1: 32-33 “16. For by him we’re all things created, that are in heaven, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities or powers: all things were created by him and for him: 17. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” -Colossians 1:12-17 “2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” - Hebrews 1:2 And here is the answer to how Jesus and Jehovah are one. 58. Jesus said unto them verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am. -John 8: 58

[@jeremycookman8825]

God bless you Oscar.

[@joesolano1]

very humble and honest lady

[@angelamarie3861]

She says "exactness" and that she's sad that our search for it causes us to put up "walls." Exactness indeed. “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Matthew 7:13-14. "Walls" are necessary because there is a truth which is extremely "exact" and therefore differentiation is absolutely necessary.

[@nadimhanna63]

I am christian andI find it really sad that Apologia studios records the street conversations without telling people they are recording the conversations. This is sneaky! Also if you have a public youtube channel and you upload a video where both Oscar and the lady lie to the person you could stand up to that lie and write and apology. No one wants to be recorded without knowledge.

[@justwonderinghowlongmyname5139]

yea that was weird...but i mean Oscar (the guy in the video) did comment that a group of 40 of them were all mic'd up so they didn't know if their conversation was gonna be chosen to be recorded. not sure if they did but it would be nice to give each person a heads up that they may be recorded during their interaction with Apologia studios

[@steve8rown14]

Her deflection from the truth was her jokingly attitude. It's apparent she has no solid foundation and is nervously dodging questions. Good job to those questioning her belief.