Apostle Chiwenga challenged by Evangelist Marufu to Debate

Apostle Chiwenga has been challenged to come and debate Sabath.

[@stonemuk]

He's the one who challenges others to a public discussion. So he should take up the offer 😊

[@yamikochimbalanga5945]

Apostle will never have that debate with Marufu. He has more to lose than Marufu. Who ever advised him not to is a wise man. Fact is Apostle knows the truth though he can't reverse his statements

[@VictorMangwiro]

You are getting it all.wrong .......this is not a battle but God says come let us reason together y. ...isn't chiwenga coming......y

[@ChecXYkitout]

Trust me, Apostle Chiwenga has no time to be invited and tossed about by little clowns like this. These guys just simply need to go back to his old sermons and discuss and respond to what he said back then. Maybe, just maybe, if they can come back with a credible argument or something new, not touched in the previous preachings, may Apostle Chiwenga want to respond (not meet) with them. Apostle Chiwenga uses the Bible to prove his message. Imagine wanting to bring an argument kuti Apostle Chiwenga called the author of the book Arthur Miller instead of William Miller. SO WHAT IF HE CALLED HIM EMERSON MILLER. Where is Miller in the Bible? 1844 or 1860 or 1740, so what? Let's debate scriptures, and not Millers.

[@BrightChisveto]

Nonsense he must show up.

[@ChecXYkitout]

@user-kt4sl5ob7z vana Makandiwa and Magaya are the sort of preachers you can ask to show up when called by a little baby on a radio station. Apostle Chiwenga has more important issues to deal with than entertain these clowns 🤡.

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

​@@ChecXYkitouthahaha 😜 like what he knows he will run away with a tail between his legs Chiwenga wenyu uyu, he preaches abt divorce but where is he newly married wife?

[@cosmiconflict]

@@ChecXYkitout yet in his sermons he always calls for debate. Why are you this blinded

[@ChecXYkitout]

@cosmiconflict . There comes a point in life where you need to stop debating and arguing with fools. If you show someone, Heb 8:13 says that the law is old and passes away and that there is a new law in town, but that person refuses to accept it, then you can't help this fool.

[@captain_tm]

Who is Marufu 😂😂😂 what’s there to discuss about Sabbath 🤣? So you were expecting Apostle Chiwenga to show up kuzo discusser about Sabbath shuwa 😂

[@unanimousmag]

Sabath is a sign Exodus 31:13 King James Version 13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

[@thembandlovu3344]

@unanimousmag Wrong understanding of the scripture,sabbaths were a sign between God and Israel through out their generations,the generations of Jacob or Israel ended in Christ,also the sign ended in Christ,now in the church of Christ there are no longer generations of Israel but only one generation of Christ where Christ is the only sign between men and God,you have chosen sabbaths over Christ.......... Gentiles were never included in Exodus 31:13 because they are simply not part of the generations of Israel and they will never be,remember one become Israel by birth only,we were not born among the twelve tribes of Israel, we were born Gentiles or non Israel.....our salvation came through THE CROSS of Jesus Christ,without no gentile can be called child of God,Jesus abolished the law so that we might also become part of the congregation of God,1st covenant did not allow us to worship God,law was the enmity between Jews and Gentiles,going back to the system of the law is SIMPLY DENYING YOUR OWN SALVATION,IT IS DENYING THE GRACE OF GOD WHICH MADE YOU TO BE PARTAKERS OF THE PROMISES OF GOD ,IT IS DENYING CHRIST,YOU ARE ACTUALLY PREACHING THAT CHRIST DIED IN VAIN

[@LazarusTsongora]

Hamutodi Apostle munotoda isu vari kutodzidzawo vaMarufu kuna Apostle maita mutete zvikuru

[@trymoremazomba5108]

Why defending munhu ngauye ege

[@watsonjocho6682]

KunaChiwenga hakumihwe mihwe munochohwachohwa

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

Hapana apa Chino zirikanwa pa Chiwenga he is just good at attacking people, ngaauye face to face

[@cosmiconflict]

@@watsonjocho6682 zvaari iye ato chohwa chohwa naMarufu. He is in hibernation now. Kkkk. He cant even raise his head, pathetic

[@EhudMcRuach]

Debating on Sabbath is the silliest thing you can ever do some us got saved recently but God in his mercy taught me about Salvation, grace and gentiles

[@andrewndlovu7259]

Chitunha chakambokoka vanhu kunhimbe here?

[@pathiaschinhoi6707]

@@andrewndlovu7259 Taura hako Marufu Arikufamba asi akafa zvake anochengeta zuva resabata? No Tinozorora Muna Christo Masavadha ese havaz iti e izvi

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

Ngaauye Chiwenga wenyu, don't be confident in another man rejoice in your own work ngauye

[@cosmiconflict]

@@pathiaschinhoi6707 blinded. You equate the lord of the sabbath to be the sabbath. Jesus said I will give you rest and you say he is the rest which he did not say. The implications you claim are unfounded

[@pathiaschinhoi6707]

@@cosmiconflict Those who know the difference of Old and New covenant/Testaments they know that the law of Moses was given to Israel not Gentiles read Jeremiah 31;31. give only one verse in the NT about keeping the seventh day

[@cosmiconflict]

@@pathiaschinhoi6707 if the ten commandments were for the Jews why do you teach not to steal, kill, commit adultery etc? Don't be pathetic. If the ten commandments were for Jews why do you say someone sinned by taking your wife or committing adultery with her?

[@TsitsiGwarega]

Mwari ngaatiwanire Nyasha 😢😢😢😢😢😢 . Sabbath day ndozuva rekunamata chero zvenyu vazhinji muchizviramba but one muchatenda .asimukana panenge pasisina wekutendeuka .

[@aristarchuschirefu4797]

John 5:17-18 KJV But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. [18] Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

[@ArnoldMarambire]

Apostle Chiwenga rejected because the SDA wanted to bring a junior one for the debate instead of the most senior. You can listen to the video titled "Apostle Chiwenga's message to his adventist friends part 2" or part 3

[@cosmiconflict]

Lame excuse

[@cosmiconflict]

In SDA there is no one called junior we all equal before God. What a lame and pathetic excuse. So Chiwenga thinks he is Senior in his Church? What an error in terms of spiritual things. Jesus taught that those that think to be great in the kingdom must be the least. 😂

[@tafadzwakasere402]

How can they dabet things that reviewed clearly oredy 😂😂😂go back to the semon not wasting the time

[@ArnoldMarambire]

@@cosmiconflict You have to make a disclaimer that with your statements, you are not representing the SDA here, otherwise you will tarnish it with your unlearned statements. A church have got an organized structure, and others hold bigger roles in the church than others, therefore others will be seniors to others. In another "Dare" held by Apostle Chiwenga, came a certain guy from SDA, a general member , and it came difficult for that guy to speak out tangible things. KuSDA kwacho handi kutori nevanonzi maElders futi, which means pane variwo pasi, its an example. Its a structure, we can't run away from that.

[@ArnoldMarambire]

@@tafadzwakasere402 nhai nhai, they are bitter kubva madays epa gomba aya.

[@EverestSimau]

Marufu dangerous

[@letriciatshuma9510]

Apostle will never be afraid at all and he does not answer to man but to God

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

Let him come, why is he afraid ano chohwa chohwa Chiwenga wenyu uyu

[@thembandlovu3344]

Iwewe ndiwe munhu ataura,only a true preacher has power to invite others to a discussion because he hears from God,izvi zvokudaidzwa nana Marufu izvii ngavakanganwe zvavo,achaenda ndokunge Mwari vati ngaayende kwete nokuda kwekuti adaidzwa naMarufu,iye anogona kukudaidzai masavadha mukauya nokuti imi ndimi motoda the message of Christ yaanoparidza kuti muponeswe asi imi hamuna simba rokumudaidza akauya nokuti hana chaanoda kwamuri,Jesu ndiye angatodaidza satan kuti azadzise zvaanoda kuzadzisa naye not other way round......like it or not ndozvazviri,rambai muchiti arikukwata until you perish

[@letriciatshuma9510]

@@thembandlovu3344 mataura dama

[@menardytogara334]

Munhu achiri kucompare Marufu kana Machando nemupostori zvinenge zviripachena kuti unenge usina kana one full sermon yaApostle Chiwenga yawakateerera

[@celianchitembo4924]

​@@thembandlovu3344Yes Yes,magwaro achizadziswa

[@RumbidzaiVindolo]

Oh! Thankyou Jesus Apostle didn't come.Haaaa VaMarufu vayinorara nebustu muma blankets.

[@TatendaMangemba]

Hamuna nyaya

[@aristarchuschirefu4797]

Colossians 2:16-17 KJV Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: [17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. What you say about this verse?

[@pureinvesting]

Colossians 2:16-17 is a quotation from Ezekiel 45:17 referring to annual Sabbaths {Feast Of Trumpets,Day Of Atonement,etc} in Leviticus 23:24,23:28,32,23:39 The seventh day Sabbath was instituted in Genesis 2:2-3 prior the fall and is also part of the 10 commandments. Why would GOD bless a shadow in Genesis 2:2-3?

[@brianmudemba6971]

Chiwenga hapana chozikamwa kungotuka vanhu iye achiita kunge anoziva

[@AngelaCampbell-w4e]

Munotukwa mukazvirega siyanai naye

[@brittjoness5924]

Kkk Chiwenga akukwata

[@pathiaschinhoi6707]

@@brittjoness5924 Munhu mupenyu haakwate chitunha chisina hupenyu

[@thembandlovu3344]

@pathiaschinhoi6707 Nhai nhai zvenyu mukoma......SDAs are so blinded to the extent yokutotadza kuwona kuti Pharisees and the Jews were lost while observing sabbath.....wotoshaya kuti chinovaita vafunge kuti observing sabbath is the way to heaven chii.....that is actually strong dilusion

[@watsonjocho6682]

Marufu munodhedhwa Na Amai kunonyudzwa munosaramusina mamembers muchurch menyu

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

Uno nyepa ngava uye, inni ndri kuto muda futii Chiwenga wacho

[@kurtlewin495]

Lewis Mary Thomas Jason White Dorothy

[@taticlog4521]

Apostle Gino Gennings isimbi yeshoko baba ...

[@beefcake582]

I don’t think Apostle Chiwenga needs to go to a debate with a crazy person. He must just open verses that justify his doctrine.

[@uncle_trust_gwishiri]

Who is crazy 😢

[@ryanjasonkhosa2685]

No need to debate

[@michaelthwala3267]

Debate with scriptures

[@BilyaletdinoMaphosa]

This Marufu is trying to create a name for himself. Shame. There's nothing to debate about Sabbath

[@grantonnxumalo326]

Evangelist marufu vakutambira kunonyudza

[@pathiaschinhoi6707]

@@grantonnxumalo326 Marufu tinomupa mwana ane three months abhabhatidzwa ngaamboteerera ma Sermons zvichida angangote ndeuka akaponeswa Jesu ndiye sabata redu

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

@@grantonnxumalo326 Marufu knows his Bible asinga zivi ndiye uyo Apostole wenyu

[@pathiaschinhoi6707]

Apostle Chiwenga can teach you the true doctrine according to scriptures. The only man who can answer you any question concerning Jesus citing scriptures from the bible.

[@Phinias-s7v]

Iwe Marufu kwana you don't need Apostle you need 2 years person to correct you

[@mikakaziboni2316]

Tell MARUFU to respond to what Apostle Chiwenga asked with regards Sabbath FIRST then we go for debate...

[@cosmiconflict]

@@mikakaziboni2316 on which platform? Marufu's also want to ask him what he was lying about the Sabbath

[@mikakaziboni2316]

@@cosmiconflict let's not focus on Marufu and Chiwenga. Let's focus on me and you. Let's discuss Sabbath and the the Law of Moses ( Old Testament ) . Can you validate the law of Moses over the law of Jesus Christ. I want to show you why Chiwenga will not waste time with that Marufu guy..

[@cosmiconflict]

@@mikakaziboni2316 what is the law of Jesus and what is the law of Moses?

[@mikakaziboni2316]

@@cosmiconflict Read John 1 vs 17.

[@cosmiconflict]

@@mikakaziboni2316 As for the ten commandments whose laws are they

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

Only the blind follows the blind Jesus said it all

[@thembandlovu3344]

Yet you are following the blind Ellen G white,very funny

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

@@thembandlovu3344 I can see you blinded by 1 gospel

[@thembandlovu3344]

@emmanuelnoel7668 ooooooh tiudzei ka imi kuti panombori nema gospel mangani ko?.....dai watonyarara hako zvazvitorinani this is another manifestation yokusaziva zvinhu zvaMwari.......azvidi pfungwa dzako kana dzangu,kana zvinyorwa zva Ellen G white shoko riripachena kuti vari blinded ndivanani..

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

@@thembandlovu3344 See mafestation yipi futii ah you 😜, very co'fused, haaa inini beside kutii Ellen G white I have enough evidence to prove that Saturday is the hold day of the Lord, the Bible and the Bible only, yoo problem is that yo Apostole venyu avoo do the research on yoo behalf and you follow blindly, even Jesus when he was in this earth never attacked people based on their religion and from the Bible itself kana muchiti sabbath Came Ellen G White I don't remember any verse in the Bible that says Jesus went on Sunday to the Synagogue, open your eyes, don't just defend things you don't k'ow and before you even write back go a'd study the book of Daniel and Revelation then tozoita nharo uri zvawakaita izvi ah I feel sorry for you, you need to read my friend

[@MunyaradziMuteerwa-tv1kn]

Chiwemga anopenga chaanogona kushoropodzs vamwe now akunzi ngauye tionesane akutiza kkkkk

[@Phinias-s7v]

Iwe Marufu kwana

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

To be honest Chiwenga knows he can't stand Marufu, even I myself give the chance to discus this issue about the sabbath I can stand against Chiwenga

[@thembandlovu3344]

Zvoku defender chisavadha chose ngatimbomira zvedu ndozviziva kuti haungazvigoni nokuti chisavadha hachina kana one verse zvayo,let us deal nezvawati unogona ku defender zvacho zvaunofunga kuti ndizvo zvinema gwaro.....ndafara nekuti Evangelist wako ati truth defends itself.....so pliz sevanhu vanoziva chokwadi answer these questions one by one,each question ngaive ne answer yayo,kana zvichibvira kana kutevedzera order yandabvunza nayo.......Since you were taught that sabbath law is the most "glorious law" among other laws,Give me the scripture inotaura izvozvo............Since you were taught that sabbath law is the "seal" of the children of God,Give me scripture.......were believers of the early church "sealed" with sabbath? Scripture pliz........Do the early apostles preach that people must observe the sabbath law?scripture pliz....VAKATI MUNORI OBSERVER HOW? tipei ma scriptures anotaura "new procedure" of observing sabbath,you can't just say i am observing it without the procedure because Israel observed it according to the prescribed procedure.....,Did they themselves(early apostles and early believers in the church of God) observe the sabbath?scripture pliz.......since you took Exodus 20 sabbath,are you observing it according to the EXACT procedure which was given to Israel? If not then what makes you think that you are observing Exodus 20 sabbath?......give me only one scripture which COMMANDS you Gentiles in the flesh to OBSERVE sabbath law?.......tipindurei titendeuke

[@NationMuzakwaya]

Ukunyepa iwee

[@thembandlovu3344]

@@NationMuzakwaya simba rokupindura ngariwandire pamagwaro kwete pakungotaura pfungwa dzenyu tikuratidzei kuti hamuna kutenda bhaibheri asi Ellen G white

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

@@thembandlovu3344 You do't knwo why Ellen G white comes to play so nyarara hakoo hapana chauno ziva, huya Bible study tivhurirane abt the sabbath a'd the end say profess

[@emmanuelnoel7668]

@@thembandlovu3344 iwe ndiwe wakato rasika manje enda pama 10 commandments, kutadza kuziva nema 10 commandments chaiyo mukuru chimbodzidzayi mirayi kungo taura musati mane ma facts