App Academy (Bootcamp) Review

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[@na-ch8es]

Food for thought: App Academy has been reported on twice recently to BBB (Better Business Bureau) and never participates in CIRR (Council on Integrity in Results Reporting) for a reason. A lot of 2021-2022 alumni wouldn't recommend them, especially for the online 24-week version. Low reviews on Google Maps as well.

[@DaveXiang]

Good to know. This review is already old and your recent datapoints will be more helpful. Pinning this comment.

[@renehill3351]

the google reviews are scary!!! I was supposed to have my interview with them tomorrow but I just canceled it. I fell like I just saved 30 grand and a ton of frustration and heartache. You can SO tell this video is fake/paid for. Go to the google reviews and thats all you need to know lol. He mentions they're raffle thats "normally really expensive" but if you do x..y..and z...you could win! and then goes on to mention this is his "honest opinion" and he's "not being paid" ok lol Again...just read the google reviews. Their literally scary.

[@na-ch8es]

Also in both 2015 and 2020 at least they've paid fines (look up "Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education - Citation app academy"). Edit: in case they remove them from public visibility, citation #1516032 in 2015 was for $50,000 whereas citation #1920276 in 2020 was for $7,000. They've also had 4 recent lawsuits at least with students/customers and themselves when you look into their parent company Hash Map Labs Inc, filing dates 2018 (x2), 2019 (x1), 2020 (x1) and in general any customer/student waives away their rights to a jury trial in the contracts when joining.

[@busyrand]

Interesting. I really appreciate the honest review. I saw their website a while ago and thought it looked well composed. Awesome that you got right into the meat of the issue. Thanks Dave.

[@redhawk5130]

I went to App Academy in NYC 1 year ago and landed a six figure salary about 3 months after graduation. I can tell you why they're so good. First of all you have to have a really strong foundation before you are even accepted. I taught bootcamp prep for them and there are CS grads who struggled to pass our prep material and interviews. But it's not that far out of reach. If you can finish most of the level 1 leetcode problems within 15 minutes, you should be fine. I had only been coding for a few months before applying. The second reason is that your peers are extremely high quality. I went to a shitty state school and majored in history, but some of my peers at app academy went to Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Berkley, etc. I'd say over 50% were stem majors as well, maybe not computer science, but math, mechanical engineering, physics, etc. So you are working alongside really really smart and motivated people. Lastly the curriculum is excellent. I won't give away the secret sauce, but they go really in depth with fundamentals. You don't just learn frameworks, you will know how to build them.

[@redhawk5130]

@Duy Nguyen they hire 1 or 2 graduates per cohort to be junior TAs and then a few more to help out with admissions and prep work part time. Those jobs are not counted in the job statistics though and the part time staff are still required to apply to jobs every week.

[@cantcode1001]

how much did that boot camp cost?

[@tsohgallik]

Red Hawk Oh... So its not for people without a degree?? I saw the advertisment... And it led me to believe App Academy can be for people who wouod like to skip all that mumbo jumbo of going to a university or college to get a degree... ayy.. anyways thanks for clearing it up...

[@inwenc]

Hi, what do you think of Full Stack Academy? and their sole focus on Javascript.

[@ARMTOAST]

@@tsohgallik Lots of people in my cohort have no programming background whatsoever, myself included. They provide resources through App Academy Open (as well as links to other sites like codewars, etc) for you to help you pass their technical interview. It only took me a few weeks to get up to speed. Definitely no degree needed.

[@coderichardson4804]

Hey man! Love the tech vids. You're one of the channels I keep an eye on about what videos get uploaded next. Very good explanations. Any chance you could share the background music ? That beat seems to be used in many of your videos and it sounds really cool. Basically, I am looking to listen to some music which is enjoyable and that does not distract me from coding at the same time. Thanks

[@mariachow4353]

thanks Dave for your insights!

[@ultrastudy8224]

been waiting for someone to do this.

[@bigtilywily69]

RIP to your acquaintance who just found out yall not friends LOL! Great info though

[@lavient3082]

Question bro is it better to do on campus or online. I ask cause I was living in New York I’m in Florida now but I’d move back if on campus is better

[@USIrunner]

Did he use a logic gate in his video index? That's awesome

[@i69trucknuttz]

So what would be the steps to getting ready for one of these boot camps be if I just graduated high school

[@marcopchen]

How has your experience been with grads from Fullstack Academy?

[@manjinderrahal1147]

Hey i do not have any knowledge of coding languages. Is it possible for me to get into the app academy ?

[@crazygirlfun1]

Is the San Francisco boot camp referring to lambda school?

[@yousmokecrackdontchadontch6248]

Man thanks for this 🙏🏾

[@ApplySkills]

how do they keep track if you do get a job?

[@KidaleSmith]

Thank you so much. Valuable information. My decision is made.

[@DannySingerMusic]

Thanks for the insight! Can you recommend any resources that delve into the specific advantages of App Academy's curriculum vs others like Hack Reactor, Flatiron, etc?

[@chigasaki06]

What are the limits between what you do vs. someone who attended a bootcamp? Do they even learn the same thing as someone who went the traditional route?

[@pentaxproductions293]

Would you recommend I try to get certified in AWS in order to enhance my resume for college?

[@damindadineshimaduwagamage9044]

Honest review, But do you think Ruby and Rails that App Academy used in their curriculum has a Market now in 2020?

[@ickimadrasi8965]

What is á div and why is it necessary

[@johnnysantos3997]

Isn't the admissions specialist paid with the ISA plan for every enrolled student. Not so much on when the grad gets a job ? I'm hearing different stories and I'm unsure about app academy. Just on thinking it'd be better to learn as much code on your own and then registering.

[@renehill3351]

just read the google reviews. thats all im gunna say. they're scary.

[@since_6592]

Thanks!

[@Hello-jz3em]

I have a question although this video was uploaded more than a year ago. I recently got the admission from AppAcademy and I still have almost two months before the program begins. Is there any suggestion that I need to do before the program? I heard from a few graduates that AppAcademy is awesome, but it still takes time to land the first dev job. I am wondering what I should prepare for before the program. Thanks!

[@abbeyhernandez882]

Hey Henry! Did you end up completed the App Academy program? If so, what was your review?

[@josecunha731]

What is the focus of their curriculum as far as platforms and languages? Wondering if it is appropriate for someone who has been in management in IT but wants to get seriously more thorough grounding in the technologies.

[@reinardusjoseph1017]

What if I am not US cirizien and want to have job and working visa at US, will coding bootcamp help me?

[@cpach601]

Is this for an entry level guy ? I just work at UPS

[@gabriels4646]

Hi Dave. How hard is it to get a software developer job out-of-state? Do startups or companies in general prefer local developers? I'm a software developer intern at a corporate company in New Jersey but would love to work at a startup in LA.

[@DaveXiang]

Practically speaking, local is always more convenient. Less expensive for travel, easier to meet up, etc. You can still make a switch across the country, just target where you look. It is not impossible. I would say it is a little harder than local.

[@gabriels4646]

Thanks for the input!

[@carlosaruzquarrionex9777]

Thank you so much for the video. I did a quick application online and it seems they want me to attend. I hear is a real intense program. Let's put it this way... If you don't like to put the time in this ever changing field... THIS FIELD IS NOT FOR YOU!. They are very serious about the time you need to put in. I have a double major; Mathematics and Computer Science. I have experience but my experience is old school - I been busy overseas. This Academy will allow me to "refresh" my self and learn the new Science. Thank you for your review. I'm going to attend in 6 months and also... I have no affiliations with this Academy. I'm not even a student... Yet!

[@mangosarefun]

Ayo how is it going with the academy? Did you end up going through with it?

[@renehill3351]

you can literally tell your either being paid for this review or you work there. Jesus christ man.

[@khoi722]

So you compared boot camp vs full 4 year degree. What about a 2 year degree? I don't see anybody on KZbin evaluating the 2 year option. Would this be a good middle ground?

[@khoi722]

But don't you find it strange they will accept a 4 month boot camp, but not a 2 year degree? I've seen the John Somnez one, but he doesn't say anything specific about it. He just says a 4 year degree is better than a 2 year degree because of general reasons like don't be lazy, etc.

[@prettaekookie5644]

supakhoi I did a small research and I think I can tell you the possibly “why”. I’m gonna graduate in December as an accountant (4 yrs). But after I worked with a part-time accounting job, I felt like I may want to change major. However, it’s close to graduation now. Why should I not complete my degree? Therefore, of course, I will finish the degree for sure. So, for anyone that is in same situation like me/new grads that want to change into computer programming field, they probably don’t want to spend 2-3 yrs more for another bachelor degree. Then, bootcamp makes sense. In another case, self-taught programmers without experiences or degrees, bootcamp will be a good exit. It’s not hard to attend a bootcamp, but it’s ridiculous competitive to attend a top bootcamp like App Academy. And in the eyes of employers (which I read from various tech websites in the topic of bootcamp), they said that whenever you skip your life and put everything at-risk (quit job, end up in debt with high bootcamp tuition), you are surely serious about coding. Moreover, if you can study 80hrs/week and learn that much knowledge in 12 weeks, you are surely a fast learner and proving the point of working under pressure. On the other side about 2 yrs degree, you are probably not as patience/not as serious to be a programmers is their assumption. Because, you are not willing to invest money and time into your study process, which will become a life career. Therefore, what is the point for them to hire you? However, if you hates school, self-taught is free and can easily prove you’re smart and patience. Hope this answer your question.

[@lesterdelacruz5088]

I have a 2 year community college degree and I work as a full time software engineer 50k. I would say I had it much harder to find a job though. Took a while and had to settle for 50k because I needed to pay medical bills. I'm not sure how much my 2 year degree really count for it all other than having knowledge of the difference between C++ and Javascript. Also, I still have trouble finding a good job. Even though my job title is a software engineer, I feel that I'm way underpaid and I'm not around talent which I really wish I had because I feel my skillsets are not growing if I'm not collaborating with talented people. I'm trying to change that now and trying to see if a coding bootcamp is a viable option for me because of the financial pressure. It's also not good for my health to be in my job as I don't enjoy it. It's already showing that it's effecting my health.

[@joshhill6317]

@@lesterdelacruz5088 You may have Engineer in your degree title but I promise it is looked at very differently by companies mainly because a full blown engineer is a bachelor's degree minimum. If you want more money then go and get your bachelor's

[@eyere9549]

Thanks Brother, I think this video brought me to my final decision.

[@lagss8440]

Did you finish it

[@ximonwhhatt3796]

personal preference

[@channelsurfing5586]

Why because you should enjoy coding not because of money. Money can be make anywhere.

[@shaz3r786]

How do they know if you get a job?

[@yaniahmori1847]

What boot camp is better flat iron or app academy?

[@dcrock8978]

He suggested App Academy

[@diaz4676]

I looked into app academy and they only have mon-fri 9am-6pm? It sounds cool, but some of us have bills to pay and have full time day jobs. Is there an alternative for us type of peeps?

[@diaz4676]

I found an answer to my question, it's called openclassrooms not ridiculously priced, flexible going at ur own pace and legit.

[@yayarea5109]

dont do it bro ..if you are considering joing a bootcamp might as well join the best ....and that would mean no work for 3 months but I think eventually you would be glad you did....you get what you paid for bro,....... I made the mistake of joining something cheaper then bootcamps I was looking to get into like app academy and hack reactor .... my bootcamp was from only 4 hours ...I.'m new to coding and only had little knowledge but I was teaching myself in class when the instructor was suppose to be the one teaching atleast thats what I thought ....try joining bootcamps that are very hard to get into because that would mean they dont want their time wasted and they wont waste yours ...I knew this but I was trying save couple of grand my bootcamp was super easy to get into and needed no knowledge of coding at all ...I felt like I was paying 11k to google information when I can do that for free on my own... I dropped out in the first week and highly regret joining uc berkeley extension in SF ...BTW the TA's were super nice and helpful whenever I had question and I felt like they cared ...but the instructor pretty much told me ask my classmates for help instead of helping.

[@diaz4676]

YAYarea 510 thank you for the info man, I did see UC Berkeleys and I was really going to do it but I cant get a loan or dont qualify for one unfortunately to afford it :/ But I get what u mean, that's what I have been seeing is the case with openclassrooms. Like I learned all of my material from a course from Udemy. They basically have projects for me to complete and weekly mentor meetings to see my code and improve on it. I stopped because I figured I needed to learn the basics before going back. But yeah it would be awesome getting into a bootcamp like UC Berkelys extension program. I'm already working 2 jobs (60+ hrs/week) to pay for the bootcamp and my Bills. I'll find a way, I know this is what I want to be doing as a career. Thank u again for the info!

[@yayarea5109]

yeah man no problem ...I wish I knew about udemy before I only used code academy ...app academy is the best bet for job hiring and tuition too like the video said ..I knew all this and went with uc berkeley and highly regret it ... ...its app academy or bust for me now ...I think its a win win situation bro ...udemy courses probably teach us better then uc berkeley extension can to be honest ,.just my opinion tho ..im sure it works out for some ..try to read bad review of uc berkeley since you will only find good ones online lol .....they will tell you something similar to my situation .you dont want to pay 11k to do stuff you can do for 10 dollars courses with udemy ..hope everything works out bro . good luck.

[@36louieboy]

YAYarea 510 yo bro, I have little to no experience in coding (mostly stuff off KZbin) and I was interested in an online boot camp. I do wanna gain skills and learn the basics before I join up with any boot camp. You got any resources that'll help a brotha out? I’d have to do it online cause I'm in Detroit got kids bills and I worl for Chrysler. I make 60k with no overtime but I hate my job. Benefits are good an all but u wanna do something I love with computers and create things. Use my head instead of my body. I digress tho. Any feedback would be helpful. Thanks in advance bro.

[@rahultirkey7950]

I know basic of html, css, kali linux, python so can I get accepted in app academy?

[@mikecherri]

Rahul Tirkey apply and find out

[@moseskawani9220]

How good people, how do they call you after setting up meeting with them

[@moseskawani9220]

Sorry l meant to say hie good people

[@tonidezman3643]

If you go into software development field just because the pay is better and you do not actually enjoy solving problems it will be struggle to succeed in this field.

[@carpettunnel8837]

Toni Dezman Not necessarily. Anyone smart with a half decent work ethic can easily get a mediocre development job.

[@logixindie]

@@carpettunnel8837 Not necessary, but passion usually is important to career success. Lack of passion has good chance of failing.

[@carpettunnel8837]

Hy Nguyen It depends on what definition of “career success” we are applying here. Some people would call it career success to not be homeless or doing manual labor while earning $80k per year and bored out of their mind. Others would call it failure making $500k/year, bored out of their mind. Without defining what “career success” is we could say that without factor x, one is destined for failure. Ie: If someone has made a career out of being a bitcoin whale moving the markets and they acquired that bitcoin by shear luck, luck is probably the biggest contributor to their career success. Sure, they could lose that bitcoin, and growing their account takes skill, but there’s very few other ways for the average person to have acquired, say 50,000 BTC. And what about the non-average person? Extremely smart? Luck. Born into a rich family? Luck.

[@MsJavaWolf]

28k really is a ton of money. I am happy I got my degree pretty much for free.

[@odinakazeus]

MsJavaWolf how exactly did you get it for free?

[@Auzep]

He's probably not an american and lives in a country where education is not expensive as fuck.

[@ProficientWarrior]

28k isnt so much when you're making $100,000 a year. I'd do that in a heart beat, I'm actually trying to figure out how I can lol Somehow have to figure out how to survive in one of their cities for 3 months lol

[@vodka4424]

if someone with zero experience in coding is interested in joining app academy, will they not get accepted, since they have this technical interview ?

[@dj9447]

is their prep bootcamp called jumpstart?@Duy Nguyen

[@Joshbo5H]

What if you lose your job? Do you still have to pay?

[@TheEmailDev]

Nooo they got Dave as well! CodingPhase is now like the only youtuber who didn't sell his soul to any bootcamps. Enjoy that 5k check though :D P.S. Okay I am exaggerating on purpose, this bootcamp does seem better than the rest for sure :)

[@DaveXiang]

I wish I got a 5K check

[@TheEmailDev]

imagine xD

[@renehill3351]

finally someone else bought on lololol. so sad man.

[@reinardusjoseph1017]

This is such a great advice but Isn't hack reactor better than App Academy

[@rayc3103]

One of the videos I watched indicated that Hack Reactor pulled their employment statistics. Private data showed that one of the cohorts only had a bit above a 50% hiring rate within the first 6 months.

[@afreenbhati7521]

That dimple is distractive😊

[@SachinSingh-sm7yg]

Hii I'm from India

[@null_all_void]

Sachin Singh How is life there?

[@matthewlutch3707]

5 minutes in and you still havent said anything of value

[@thelastcrusaders6317]

80% of your content is verbiage...

[@donman1727]

This is obviously a paid sponsored video

[@null_all_void]

Don Man I don’t like to say this but i have this feeling as well. Maybe i am wrong.

[@sreeshman1]

Lol app academy is 100% legit

[@The_Winners_Circle]

I hate this guys perspective