Apple Has Put iPhone Thieves On Notice! Hands On with Stolen Device Protection!

[@DarkMatter727]

I used the lost mode when my mothers iphone was stolen. It was traded in to an eco atm and the person got $20, but I got the phone back because of the lost mode and my phone number being put on there. Thats awesome they are adding more to it.

[@MikeyBats]

How were you able to get it out of the echo machine?

[@JPS13Laptop]

@@MikeyBatsProbably got an employee to do it.

[@MikeyBats]

@@JPS13Laptop it’s a machine in a mall, they don’t have ppl there working it..unless there’s a number you can call for problems like this..I guess

[@Digitaldroid4681]

What does lost mode do exactly?

[@palles1972]

I use Screen Time. There’s another pin code, and when it is on, I cannot get into password and FaceTime.

[@markburnham7512]

How do I put the phone in lost mode if it is lost?

[@marcstephenson1360]

Use a laptop or another device and sign in

[@BoudiccaAmazon13]

Guard your pass code like it’s an atm PIN code and use biometrics and if I have to use a pass code just block iPhone screen before putting in passcode.Turn on parental settings don’t allow

[@jimmyjames_yt]

My passcode is my atm code.

[@user9b2]

Untill we get IOS17.3, go to SETTINGS and *enable Screen Time* with a pin code, then go into *Content & Privacy Restrictions* and disable changes to *Passcode* and *Account*. Now even if someone steals both your password and phone, they cannot change your password or account and lock you out. This means any Face ID access is disabled unless they also steal your face. 2FA is useless if you do not make these settings changes.

[@sanjosemike3137]

God bless you @use9b2. Words cannot express my appreciation for your post. I just got I"OS 17.3.1 downloaded! Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

[@iphonesecurity]

this isn't true, when I go into my settings and execute the same steps, it prompts you the first time that you do it saying, "You can still reset this PIN code with your Apple ID if you ever forget it" which nullifies the entire point of it. It is only good for handing people you trust to not steal your account, but don't trust to mess with the settings of your phone, for example a crazy and suspicious girlfriend. But, at most, this setting only protects you from your friends/kids/significant others. Not iPhone thieves. I tried and tested it myself.

[@user9b2]

@@iphonesecurity You did not think through the process before commenting, if you have set up those blocks beforehand , they can not alter your phone or account to begin with. - unless you give them the pin code.

[@sanjosemike3137]

@@user9b2 This only works AFTER you set the parameters. Also, you must enable biometric settings to EVERY item that allows it. Many banking apps allow biometric settings. Some email accounts also allow it. You should also purchase an extra screen cover that does NOT allow anyone to see what you are entering from an angle. This would be enormously helpful if you are in a public place like a bar and the thieves are watching you from behind your back. This security screen would make it almost impossible to see you enter your password, from behind or beside you. If you are slightly drunk, it may save you a terrible loss. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

[@ytstsysjs]

what if my phone gets stolen in my workplace and someone changes pin there?

[@b_altmann]

That’s why they don’t allow third party repairs. The thieves can’t harvest the parts of an iPhone, which they would otherwise do. The repairs they do allow require a procedure through Apple, where you probably have to verify that you are the rightful owner.

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

Yeah no that's mostly about greed tbh

[@LucasRizzotto]

@@lowwastehighmelanin It can be both.

[@simphiwelehlohonolo4961]

Yes

[@jackolantern7342]

Seriously, for this type of security issue, from the very beginning, critical security settings should have required the password and failing a biometrics check should have NEVER defaulted to device passcode.

[@ckava693]

I updated my ipad 6 to 17.3 and the stolen device protection is no where to be found? Are Ipads not getting this feature? They can be stolen as well!

[@Mohamad30697]

Only ipad pro because they have Face ID feature

[@lukejackson9848]

What is the most common reason for thieves randomly stealing iPhones on the street? What do they do with the iPhones? I’ve never understood this. If someone else was to receive the stolen iPhone and enroll for new service from a cell carrier, wouldn’t certain unique numbers from the stolen iPhone indicate it’s been reported stolen? Would the iPhone IMEI indicate anything? I’m a novice, don’t know anything about this stuff. I only apply logic and reason.

[@Nick51100]

They tend to get your passcode now and with just the passcodes you can see all the passwords and they can remove find my and reset the phone then sell it

[@guachito33]

or just create a different passcode for screen time and block access to settings and changes

[@tinman3505]

Apple should have never gotten rid of touch ID. or they should have kept it to sign in if face ID didn't work or 2VS

[@Buharialtinee]

Thanks for sharing

[@CarlyleD]

I love this feature and can't wait! Like seriously, I think I'm going to download the beta just for this feature! Thanks for the video, this was very useful information!

[@user9b2]

Untill we get IOS17.3, go to SETTINGS and *enable Screen Time* with a pin code, then go into *Content & Privacy Restrictions* and disable changes to *Passcode* and *Account*. Now even if someone steals both your password and phone, they cannot change your password or account and lock you out. This means any Face ID access is disabled unless they also steal your face. 2FA is useless if you do not make these settings changes.

[@CarlyleD]

I've got 17.3@@user9b2

[@leeedens9497]

Good, for Apple about time, is there really a need for user's to change their passwords at known places, such as clubs, banks, etc place, should Apple and other smartphone makers, do a known secure place like your home (forcing the user to have to log in to their WiFi and use the cellular network for those changes)

[@kevinhoward9593]

if the iOS is beta do the system work?

[@ivybator6167]

Very important feature!

[@Makemusicyours]

so what I don't understand is you said if they want to change things like our apple id password theres a 1 hour time delay? on top on bio metrics check I would hope? surely not just a one hour head start ahead of the thief to mark it lost before they can then change the password?

[@pamkoakes]

Great new software!How does 17.3 beta 1 feel?

[@autonomousplayer583]

Why they can put ang extra gps even when it is off or low on battery so that it could still trace the phone plss iphone do that my phone os lost and its on lost mode but inconnot see the location what i have notice if they shut down the phone you connot trace it.hope even if its shot down gps inside the phone still work so that it could still find where is it

[@cassandraspencer1476]

The time delay should be increased from one hour to maybe six hours. Imagine you’ve lost your phone at the cinema and you don’t realize until after the movie ends which is more than one hour. Or imagine you’ve just boarded a long flight and while in the air, you’ve discovered you’ve lost your phone. I would say this needs to increase from 60 minutes to maybe even four days or even a week. 60 minute thing seems completely random and not well thought out

[@AppleInsider]

Actually, it requires biometrics to turn off. Even if it is a long time, they still cant turn it off without your face or fingerprint. Or being in your home!

[@CraigCChen]

You forgot one more thing. People snatch your phone from your hands when it is unlock.

[@simphiwelehlohonolo4961]

Learn to Keep your phone in your pocket. Activate biometrics

[@TJAllenwood]

but they still have to know your passcode to disable or use sensitive features.

[@CraigCChen]

@@TJAllenwood nope. They steal it when the phone is unlock.

[@piewhackit2me]

My iPhone 13pro max 1TB was stolen and for 3 days I tracked that iphone every time it was turned on.I did report it immediately the day it was stolen to carrier and enabled lost mode when I got home.I already had a screen pass code lock.On the 4th day and the day I received my insurance Assurion replacement iPhone a employee of att called me stating someone brought the iPhone in claiming they found it and iPhone was in working condition but the case had been removed so I decided to send it back an keep replacement iphone.I tracked that iPhone over 5 miles and repeatedly pinged it when it was turned on.Guess the thief got spooked after 4 days and then realized it was useless to them as an assembled iPhone.Only valuable for its parts.

[@dmfinpa]

Will this be available on older phones or just 15 & 14? What is the process to declare your phone stolen? If you no longer have the phone getting into a web portal within the allotted time may be a challenge.

[@lazar_713]

it will be on older iphones that support ios 17 like the oldest is iphone xr

[@sanjosemike3137]

I deliberately purchased an iPhone 14 to make sure I could get security updates into the phone. Not everyone can afford to do this. Earlier iPhone may not support the most recent security updates. Otherwise, my older iPhone worked perfectly. But it does no good unless I can get the security updates. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

[@TheNameIsNexOG]

This in no way would backfire on the user right? Would turn this on but worried that could backfire on me and lock me out or ruin my quality of use on my phone, given my track record with technology

[@jhines]

privacy screen is a most to help

[@wht-rabt-obj]

I'm scared that if I turn this on, I'll be at the store trying to move money in my banking app to make a purchase and the phone will lock me out or make me wait an hour.

[@gmemo4449]

This is a great feature and a step in the right direction.

[@ViejoLocuelo]

Hmmm.... so if your job includes travel all over the states, you phone will keep going into this "I think I'm stolen" mode?

[@Menstral]

4:33 absolute rubbish, so much greed, so much harm has been done.

[@Chillynorth]

What if the seat immediately changes your work location in contacts to his/her current location?

[@cbdislife2514]

It doesn’t do familiar locations correctly so you should turn off significant locations under privacy security so that these security measures are in place no matter where you are

[@aamerr]

exactly its probably way off. i think they should give you a manual option to enter your significant location

[@CaptainVideo1960]

I think it’s a great feature, and I prefer biometrics to passwords for some of the apps that they’re enabling but I don’t see how if you have two factor authentication set up, anyone could change your password on your iPhone Ring, that it sends a code to another trusted device

[@user9b2]

Untill we get IOS17.3, go to SETTINGS and *enable Screen Time* with a pin code, then go into *Content & Privacy Restrictions* and disable changes to *Passcode* and *Account*. Now even if someone steals both your password and phone, they cannot change your password or account and lock you out. This means any Face ID access is disabled unless they also steal your face. 2FA is useless if you do not make these settings changes.

[@simphiwelehlohonolo4961]

Good 👍 We'll done Apple

[@LILsbreezay]

Does it require Face ID to turn the device off? Coz that’s what these thieves do first, to switch the device off!

[@Noir85Acutual]

I can’t even find that in my iPhone

[@iphonesecurity]

If they know your 6 digit PIN code, will they just have to wait 1 hr to reset biometrics? Also, thieves use Siri to enable airplane mode so find my is useless.

[@hardikar0jas]

But you can turn off lost mode on iPhone using device passcode!!

[@truthkl]

they pull back on IOS 17.3 its got issues

[@reggievanness]

My iPhone 14+ has every security measure possible I hate thieves never enter my password in public.

[@DanxLlax]

How about if the face id or touch id won’t working as defective.

[@SuperSynoptic]

Just another way to 'track' someone.

[@Anakena3]

What it would means… that now you get to get kidnapped for an hour by the thieves! 😅 hopefully that won’t encourage more violent approaches. But happy with these new feature anyway.

[@AppleInsider]

I mean… if they were willing to do that, they probably were willing to before too!

[@sanjosemike3137]

The "research" I have done online on iPhone thefts are frequently at crowded places where you may not be very careful. Mostly bars where alcohol is served. When people get soused, or even partially so, they tend to get sloppy. They don't watch their backpack or put it on a chair next to them. Somebody picks up the backpack and steels it. You may not even know it's gone, say after you come back from the restroom. There are some good travel security posts online. The tragedies that occurred happened when a group of thieves worked in tandem with each other. They had one photographing your password input at the bar, behind your back. The other quickly stole your phone and walked out of the bar. Game over. You're *****d. There are certainly ways to protect yourself at a bar! If you get even slightly drunk, you lose a lot of protection. I hope many people read this post. Not for ME but for them! Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

[@RWOproduction62000]

that's all fine but what about now, seem like this kind of security should have been out by now.

[@Damariobros]

If you turn this on and then later on your FaceID module breaks or maybe gets permanently disabled from a screen replacement or something, this is a problem because you don't have ANY override method. I feel like Apple should add some kind of an override code. Perhaps some kind of 8-10 digit code that you can turn on and let the phone generate for you, that lets you override Stolen Device Protection in such an event. However, to prevent people from growing complacent and just using this override whenever it doesn't recognize their sunglasses, I think it should, at first, be ONLY allowed to be used to add or remove FaceIDs or TouchIDs, or to force Stolen Device Protection to be disabled. Only when that happens, when it gets disabled, should the override code be able to be used as a backup for anything that has been made FaceID-only. Or perhaps, after turning it off, you could use the override code to then temporarily enable using the device passcode as a backup, for a limited time, before the override code is needed again? Idk, food for thought, just some ideas about how this can be dealt with.

[@abc123fhdi]

is it Face ID only during stolen device protection mode or is it both Face ID and passcode required?

[@Damariobros]

FaceID only. To access things like Safari Passwords or to use your card and several other things, as well as for all of these settings listed at 4:03, you cannot use the Device Passcode to override the FaceID when Stolen Device Protection is enabled.

[@RameshKumar-ng3nf]

Request to write short comments for easier interpretation.

[@Blacksonaudio]

This my fear. Dropped phone or screen replaced by an unauthorized apple repair place and… poof!! Your done! Genius Bar: sorry we can’t do anything about that but if you’ve paid for iCloud + to back up everything you can easily download this AFTER you’ve bought a new phone.

[@davidgates5699]

All you have to do is go home or work and it is back to normal.

[@techman2124]

My mom’s iPhone got stolen and she had to use my phone to call the police.

[@Wollmütze-l5w]

On my Samsung tablet I use only an passcode each time the screen gets off or device is shut down. I supports as well face lock but I never enabled that. Android 13 has a feature where you can set it like 20 wrong entered attempts to get into your device will erase and factory reset it automatically. On my Motorola Android 7 phone there is not automatic erase so I use as well only an passcode each time the screen goes black. Brute force attacks could break over time the passcode and it can be spyed over your shoulders by others. Other than that I always just had the passcode I enter at lighting up the screen. Android alway shows that drawings are of an low safety level and passcodes of an middle range safety while passwords be of high safety. A passcode is a good way of safety.

[@parkerrill]

This is going to become a problem at Apple stores when employees need customers to turn off find my for trade in devices.

[@AppleInsider]

Nope! That's when it falls back to using biometrics. Before you turn off Find My, you'll have to verify with your Face or Touch ID.

[@Bakapooru]

I guess thieves are always on the lookout for people entering their passcodes out in the open. A thief will just happen be looking at you and your phone as the passcode is entered. Yeah, it can happen, but highly unlikely. Otherwise, how many iPhone users will yell out in public, “Look at me! I’m going to unlock my phone with my passcode now!”?

[@ag3ntorange164]

So safe it isn't turned on by default. So Apple customers with limited techical skills (About 99.5% of the total) will probably fail to even benefit from it. Apple continue to fail upwards.

[@BrianPex]

99.5 is a tad high but I get your point. :-)

[@Mars-l6f]

Most people nowadays have photos dating back as far as the Year 2023 ONLY

[@TheSkullman721]

Why?? I have photos dating back to 2008 in google photos

[@Mars-l6f]

@@TheSkullman721 Most people forget to back up their photos that's why

[@Mars-l6f]

@@TheSkullman721 That's good for you because you always back up your photos

[@Mars-l6f]

@@TheSkullman721 Most people don't now you know why

[@AomoriWp]

hopefully they add something to make the 1 hour timer longer or required to use biometrics even when you are at home since the person stealing your phone may know where you live or where your work which makes the feature virtually useless

[@Donuts-rw2if]

that is why I turn those places off in the settings and require the same security level everywhere

[@robcav8747]

It sounds good but the current stuff never works (and worse even locks out legit users) so I am skeptical how new features will work

[@cameraman655]

Yeah, I am in that camp as well. I’ll wait and see if any bugs or issues pop up and how they are resolved before activating it.

[@user9b2]

The problem is between your shoulders.

[@golfnutjeff5752]

I think it sux personally, I never turned it on but it is on and now I need to wait a fucking hour for it to turn off

[@odlanyeradlaisor9805]

It is much better if apple will create a feature that every time we turn off the phone it needs passcode or pasword. It is one of the best features of samsung that iphones never have. Wish apple to have the feature soon.

[@gdmoore]

It already does that...

[@odlanyeradlaisor9805]

@@gdmoore how?

[@reneuhlmann]

The major problem are those "safe places". So a thieve looks for my home address in the contacts app and we have the same problem as before...I can not understand why apple implements it in this way. 1 hour delay is also too short.

[@trparky]

I think so too. Apple should make it so that it's a setting that you, the user, can change yourself.

[@Donuts-rw2if]

you can turn those off, I already did

[@trparky]

@@Donuts-rw2ifWhat do you mean by that?

[@Donuts-rw2if]

​@@trparky You can turn those safe places off completely by turning significant places off: Settings -> Privacy -> Location Services -> System -> Services -> Significant Locations

[@b4lt4z4r85]

Apple Crapple is a Joker

[@troigrl]

I think this will be helpful but it’s some time off from now. I just got 17.2 today!

[@bertraminc9412]

Did Tim Cook just give them phones… or did he just unlock them if you can prove you stole it.

[@ErikBrabander]

Dang it… my Face ID sensor is not working anymore 😢 on my iPhone XS. No anti theft mode for me… or I have to upgrade sooner then I was planning for ( next year when Apple stops supporting the iPhone XS with major iOS versions). Cool feature though!

[@Loyal35arufu]

The big thieves stole iPhone; those features are marketing strategy; everyday iPhones are stolen without any trace; l personaly lost 2 iPhones and they are gone for good

[@Mars-l6f]

More and more Irish people who are EXCITED for Life on Mars will upgrade to the iPhone 16 Pro 256 GB or Boyfriend and Girlfriend will BUY the iPhone 16 Pro Max 1TB

[@TheNick8995]

People seeing you type in your passcode can be solved with a privacy screen cover

[@donniethesportsguy893]

Pathetic this is just coming in 2024 for a trillion dollar company

[@lj4001]

Great, but the iPhones don’t stop being valuable to thieves, they value them more than my life. 😢 Thanks Apple for putting my safety as your last priority!

[@OHHHHUSBANT]

Your fault trusting a centralized system and putting sensitive info on it instead of your computer or other device that isn't centralized to a system

[@turbyoulance]

I still cannot Update my iPhone SE2020 to accept IOS17.1 even or 17.2. It's only 3 years old . No one knows what the problem with the iPhone is. No one. With MKBHD awarding the Pixel 8 his best Smartphone of the year, maybe it's time to switch to Pixel 8 and chromebook.

[@albertchehade9916]

the only sensitive details I keep on 16GB iPhone 5S are my bills.....so if someone wants to steal a 10 year old iPhone, they are welcome to pay my bills...... NO other sensitive details of any kind are stored on my iPhone

[@BlueDroneBlues]

I don't know if Apple changed something, but in my Face ID & Passcode page I don't fine this stolen option anywhere. I wonder if last nights update did away with it already, or it is just turned on automatically or something, or it was moved? I have the iPhone 15 Pro Max.