Apple Intelligence vs CoPilot+ PCs - The BETTER AI?!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

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[@anitawhale1013]

Here's what i don't understand obviously U are a bit biased towards apple ur lack of research for other platforms just seems to always Blow my mind... "Windows Copilot Runtime" is basically Apple Intents API. WHy would microsoft take 5-10gb of extra space using both proprietary and Opensource models like SD and their own PHI model then basically Force u to have to go and redownload them 😥?

[@JayFrosting]

Nobody has invented an artificial intelligence yet.

[@strictnonconformist7369]

Myself, I want to run my own choice of models, uncensored, warts and all: why? Alignment teaches an LLM to generate "desired" outcomes that are lies in conflict with their unsupervised learning data. It also invariably is biased according to what someone has decided is the desired narrative. Added to that, there is the result of it making the LLM dumber in regards to its reasoning capacity. An M1 can run an LLM, within the limits of its main memory, of which 16 GB RAM was the upper limit for the M1 out of the gate. That's a bit limiting, unless Apple has perfected making that processing capacity time-efficient with reading parameters out of the SSD without lots of delays. My M1 MacMini won't be comparable to the Copilot+ PCs or the M4, or the M4 family. It's impossible to know as of now how much practical difference there is in capacity for LLMs between the M4 and the Copilot+ PCs. In both cases, current information suggests they're pretty close to equal, but to me, short of making SSD-based LLM execution, the practical size of the LLMs is limited by main RAM. I'm curious what the other M4 variants will be in regards to TOPS since that's now more of an emphasis for competition. Also, how much RAM such machines will have, etc., because that's what will matter a huge deal.

[@anitawhale1013]

@HanJanssen-pg9jh not gonna happen a complete rewrite 😅

[@ar-jaysacay7993]

@@anitawhale1013 agreed !!!

[@MarsorryIckuatuna]

Recall has been Recalled! 🤦‍♂️

[@wesley.zago120]

the problem with recall is that Microsoft left a lot of questions without answers with lead to people doing the questions and giving the answers to those questions by themselves. apple smartly gave a LOT of information about how the data is used to make their ai work, which basically left no room for concerns about privacy (the people concerned are the ones that don't even trust Apple)

[@cfwin1776]

Microsoft always takes three tries to build anything decent. First try is to build something half baked as a place holder. Second try is a beta that they think could be useful to people. Third try contains bug fixes and big marketing efforts.

[@xeon2k8]

and the answer MIcrosoft gave to the concerns was "hmmmyeah we will delay it indefinitely for now"... really reassuring for sure

[@d0dg3st4r]

@@wesley.zago120 why would anyone trust a company? The company doesn't care about the people, the company just cares about mo... The company just cares about making a pro... The company just cares about pushing agendas.

[@MorganJoe]

Apple seem very focused on making Apple Intelligence very unintrusive and secure, that clearly isn't Microsoft's intentions with CoPilot+ this Recall feature is so sketchy, imagine being a hacker and literally have Microsoft doing the hard work collecting all the sensitive information for you. the last thing Microsoft should be doing is making a hacker's job easier.

[@casadev24]

and on top of that windows machines are much easier to hack and with windows population being higher statistically there is higher chance of malware being designed for windows only

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Yup

[@heroofjustice3349]

Yeah, 'Recall' looks like half-baked feature created by newbie programmer who was so excited that 'it works' thaty he commited code without taking security into consideration.

[@vjtech17]

It's too early, but overall Apple Intelligence seems less creepy & benign compared to other AI models like CoPilot+, Gemini, OpenAI.

[@chromefuture5561]

Well yes….but also in some ways no because they integrated open ai(chat GPT) in to IOS as an help for when Apple intelligence don’t have they power.But I like that you always first need to give them the permission to do this😊

[@michalrybinski3233]

"an encrypted screenshot" - bullshit, it has been proven already that (at the curent state) it saves text descriptions of what it seen on the screen in CLEAR TEXT on your disk...

[@nicoli8437]

CoPilot+ AI PC 🤣This name is a marketing nightmare

[@TechGameDev]

man you compare the functionality of the iphone with a pc with copilot plus and you tell me we can generate emoji pc users do not use their pc to send disappointed messages or to make calls

[@aringarg3420]

Really nice video. It was a good topic to talk about and that too in a simplified way so that everyone can understand. Keep it up!🙂

[@Driver.Diaries]

I love that Apple ai will work on existing machines. Looking forward to using it in my 2 year old M2 Air 🎉 No silly subscription either, much better.

[@alxprime]

This comparison seems somewhat ridiculous to me when you don't have either of the two technologies available in your hands. This is just a video with the purpose of generate likes.

[@MrDejvidkit]

I like speculations, its speculations based on their marketing team. So this is what they are promising, and you can make comparisons why not.

[@juangoyeneche7304]

In this case, I don’t think so. If you notice, Microsoft immediately stopped the “recall” feature. These products are years in the making. Introducing or discussing them means they are ready. Working out the kinks is one thing, but the main process shows how they work, which is undeniable. That’s why people find the holes in them. For Apple, it’s a priority to keep their customers in the Apple ecosystem. For Microsoft, it’s always about gathering as much data from customers as possible. To me, Microsoft AI feels like a temp employee looking over your shoulder and taking notes on everything you do without you knowing what they’re noting or what they’re doing with it. Apple AI, on the other hand, is like a personal secretary that comes with your device, ready to answer questions by going through your notes and providing the information, then waiting for the next request. Apple’s AI is already part of the system and doesn’t need to copy everything. Thanks to other smart people testing it, we now know that Microsoft AI is not secure. This is the advantage of a closed ecosystem environment.

[@joseabraham777]

Well, that’s the purpose of every KZbinr but he is speaking with what Apple and Microsoft said

[@iPhoneSpy]

Great informative video.

[@GetzAI]

9:42 will WE get access to USE this on Mac servers?

[@juangoyeneche7304]

If you notice, Microsoft immediately stopped the “recall” feature. These products are years in the making. Introducing or discussing them means they are ready. Working out the kinks is one thing, but the main process shows how they work, which is undeniable. That’s why people find the holes in them. For Apple, it’s a priority to keep their customers in the Apple ecosystem. For Microsoft, it’s always about gathering as much data from customers as possible. To me, Microsoft AI feels like a temp employee looking over your shoulder and taking notes on everything you do without you knowing what they’re noting or what they’re doing with it. Apple AI, on the other hand, is like a personal secretary that comes with your device, ready to answer questions by going through your notes and providing the information, then waiting for the next request. Apple’s AI is already part of the system and doesn’t need to copy everything. Thanks to other smart people testing it, we now know that Microsoft AI is not secure. This is the advantage of a closed ecosystem environment.

[@michaelcobbin]

Who trust more? A secretary/personal assistant who is super discreet and makes sure all work papers are carefully locked in drawers after use, or a temp with a side gig selling data?

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Very interesting video. I didn’t realize Apple compared their model to the one Microsoft is using. Glad to see they’re ahead - I will always root for the approach that prioritizes consumer privacy and security, even though that often puts them at a disadvantage because they can’t siphon user data to work off that.

[@djphat1736]

Hacker: Your recall feature is unencrypted. Microsoft: I don't recall what your talking about!

[@Thron2111]

Oh no, I knew this would be happening, in the title you called it Apple AI, that means you called it Apple Apple Intelligence

[@DeviIzx]

i'm recalling my window's update or pre-order for any 'Recall' features from Microsoft.

[@dafonso1978]

the screenshot is not encrypted.

[@k691]

That's right you just assumed it just as you just assumed everything about Apple is secure.

[@JaredFarrer]

How’d it kill it it’s not even released

[@Celestial_Souljah]

Putting security issues to the side since Apple clearly seems to have thought that through better than Microsoft, Apple's AI being available on all it's M processors seems like a limiting factor to me. I would think the features can only be so strong if they can be used via inferior NPUs. It's also a little funny that people are making such a big deal about what Apple and Microsoft are doing as if they are new and Google devices haven't already been able to do much of it for quite a while now.

[@91loganator]

I’m interested in seeing you compare the performance of Apple Intelligence on all of the M-series processors to see how much more performance you get with each generation as well as base chips vs pro/max/ultra

[@a-rezhko]

Apple's motto: "Yesterday's Technology - Today!!!"

[@TechOverwrite]

I think that both are overhyped right now. What WOULD be really useful is being able to put an AI in "learning mode", use your PC for a whole day or week, then have the AI say "okay, I can take over x, y and z tasks - and here's some other suggestions". Basically a proactive AI. What we have instead right now are retroactive AIs that are closer to autocompletes than AGI.

[@aaronjonellhall1937]

DAMNNNNNN

[@Krrishkumar2333]

Brooo 💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥✅✅✅

[@strictnonconformist7369]

That's what you actually do with multiple examples fed into the proper prompts, called multi-shot learning. This isn't hard to setup. Getting it to be perfectly reliable is a more interesting task in practice.

[@yigitdogan27]

I think scientists should focus on natural stupidity as well as artifical intelligence.

[@harrykatsaros]

Is there a universal control to just allow access to ChatGPT by default without having to authenticate every time? I already used ChatGPT and thus would prefer that Siri just does whatever it needs to do to without asking me every single time.

[@chromefuture5561]

I think it’s so cool, that they use their own servers and also they seem very…very sure about the privacy of their server

[@ZETA_RETICULI39.17]

Waiting for comparison of surface pro x elite with ipad pro m4

[@Spoonfed78]

That would be an extremely limited comparison, Windows 95 had less restrictions vs iPadOS😂

[@ZETA_RETICULI39.17]

@@Spoonfed78 that's true but interested in, how do they perform (whatever is their abilities)

[@Spoonfed78]

Yes out of interest I guess. I get frustrated with most tech reviews just focusing on benchmarks etc and never even touch on an array of features and abilities one device has over another. Performance specs are useless without functionally and interoperability etc. ie usability.

[@k691]

Isn't on-screen awareness same as Microsoft's Recall?

[@bokangsepinare7428]

So you think the model running on device is not from OpenAI? Delulu

[@pixelgaming7261]

2:02 Recall will not be coming alongside the rest of the AI features, as Microsoft is revamping it due to security concerns.

[@Eazidosit]

You didn't even mention that co pilot can take notes for you while in a teams meeting. Amongst other things it does. Basically everything you mentioned that Apple is suppose to be finally bringing in September.

[@at_oussama]

"I guess that shows their confidence in their Recall feature" EXCUSE ME WHAT?

[@skyak4493]

This is a surprisingly good assessment of the integrated AI features and their usefulness. I am relieved to see that Apple is handling AI right and that Microsoft is being forced to address its failings.

[@inamulbhuyan]

Snapdragon X ❤❤

[@djpaceeuro]

Nowadays, you’re speculating and making a lot of noise without having the real devices in hand. You used to do through reviews and benchmarks with devices in hand. Has reaching 1+ million subs changed your priorities?

[@akyhne]

I'm not sure, I understand the title of the video. You make it sound like the iPad pro is superior to the new Snapdragon X Elite PCs. But then in the video, you only talk about Apple AI and Copilot+.

[@alvarohernandez2764]

What's this "tops"? Is that some kind of new universal unit of chip performance?

[@alvarohernandez2764]

Oh i see. Trillion Operations Per Second. I thought that was the transistor count.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

You already found it, but the raw number is mean basically nothing, since there are multiple method to measure it. First Apple used FP16 to measure, and when Snapdragon X Elite started their AI marketing, Apple also switched to INT8, it's have bigger numbers.. by the way Snapdragon X Elite measured in INT4, and there is an average 59% diff between INT8 and INT4, so Apple 38 TOPS (INT8) is about equal with 60 TOPS (INT4, this is the type, where the Snapdragon have 45 TOPS).

[@alvarohernandez2764]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st Has Max Tech been taking this into account when comparing these TOPS claims between Apple, Qualcomm, Intel, and Amd?

[@Dani-kq6qq]

Its an old measurement, used to measure operations a cpu, gpu, npu or other processor can do. Its the number 1 way to measure NPUs because thats all NPUs do.

[@TechGameDev]

1:40 recall is deleted and canceled

[@ranajoyshil]

most rational apple fan.

[@NinjaKiller1022]

I’m excited for Apple Intelligence, but it’s way too early to tell who clearly has a physical lead, seeing as the public doesn’t have hands on with the software just yet. But based on the announcement, this is a remarkably huge leap for Apple. Knowing Apple, they are only going to make improvements to the software as we wait for it to release, so there’s a good chance that we may see a better product, come soon.

[@D.u.d.e.r]

Apple did a very good sell of their AI which shows they r quite serious about its implementation and practical use with special attention to privacy. And of course their signature deep HW + SW integration gives them significant advantage and leading edge in comparison to competition.

[@Mmacrossfirekenai]

It's early but given Microsoft's dismal privacy and greedy track services record of late, it's easy to side with Apple Intelligence for now. Let's see what happens though

[@OblivifrekTV]

Funny thing is Someone found out Recall doesn't Encypt the Images it takes, nor does it remove or blur sensitive information, and the Database is just a Simple SQLite Database with no Encryption xD

[@AmbientClassical]

Does anyone know if Apple's AI will be available via Mac terminal? I want to use a Mac as an AI server, since it's one of the most secure environments.

[@akin242002]

This is an example of when being late to the market is better. Big mistakes and oversight (MS Recall) from the first to the market, but big fixes being late to the market (Apple Intelligence).

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@-The-Golden-God-]

The very first thing that I'd do is disable any ridiculous AI tools. Recall has already been proven to be a massive security risk.

[@romari2706]

The difference: copilot costs $20 a month. Apple Intelligence is free.

[@-The-Golden-God-]

@@romari2706 I think you've replied to the wrong person.

[@parjau4554]

With all due respect to Vadim, I suspect Musk knows a bit more about OpenAI and how the code can, once given permission to access a small portion of an iPhone, infiltrate other parts of it should it choose to do so. Admittedly, ChatGPT is not as bad as Google or Microsoft's AI systems but it is not a perfect situation. People haven't really grasped the fact that AI on a phone will know virtually EVERYTHING about you - your interests, politics, attitudes to authority, relationships, 'adult' inclinations, 'substances' you might like... everything. If that information fell into unfriendly or controlling hands, they would have a lot of power over you.

[@emiliapeabea]

?? so ur describing a virus? lmfao you clearly havent actually watched wwdc

[@edisongocotano1922]

Thanks for this video! 🎉 12:06

[@JasonBay-RealEstateInvesting]

I feel upset that I just dropped $$$$$ on an M3 MAX MBP and it only has 18 TOPS

[@tiemji]

Let's see how it operates on both systems but as of right now, apple seems to have done a better job at providing informations dog how their ia works

[@steven_yoon]

Another great video Max! !

[@God-Will-ing]

PC needing more operations to do the same thing slower than Mac

[@akyhne]

And how do you cone to this conclusion?

[@alvarohernandez2764]

I got the Sequoia beta, and Siri is still dumb. Couldn't even generate a single line of code.

[@Naguura_Ravenclaw]

Simply because the updated siri is not in beta 1

[@shauryajain6490]

ai won't be released until public beta I believe

[@alvarohernandez2764]

@@shauryajain6490 that explains it

[@dbtech4562]

Siri create me a Hello World program in C++. Siri: "I found this on the web".

[@NI0C]

Erm actually, you have a mistake on your title. Its not Apple AI, its actually Apple Intelligence. 💀

[@Tutelage810]

Nitpicking

[@NI0C]

@@Tutelage810 Its a joke.

[@Techonsapevole]

Llama3 8B is missing in the benchmarks.. not relevant

[@lenn55]

People don't trust MS Recall but we should trust OpenAI? hmm

[@anthonybanks6772]

Dude just stop using technology all together. It will make your life so much easier

[@challow90221]

Recall is just the bootleg rewind app on Mac. Basically it’s a copy like safaris new features where Stolen from arc browser and sigma.

[@johnmartin8481]

I am not sure why this comparison is taking place between Apple and Microsoft. I would suggest they are difficult to compare due to their AI focus areas. Microsoft AI focus is specific for Windows PC users and Microsoft Suite of products and services such as Edge, Teams, Microsoft 365 for business and personal productivity. Apple AI focus is more general in support Apple iPhone product and services integrated across laptop, tablet and watch products etc. If you are a Microsoft Windows PC and Microsoft 365 products and services, the promise of Copilot AI support is a game changer for Window and Android users. Clearly the AI Recall feature was not ready for prime time. That said, when it comes to integrating within Windows 11, Copilot AI will complete something that has not happened to date within personal computing, a computer that understands you, the user. Copilot Recall is the missing component to make all this work together along with other updated AI features. I for one cannot wait to experience this new phase of computing. Let’s see what happens in the next few months when Recall is released with the security issues addressed. I predict business and personal productivity will dramatically improve when Recall is integrated into everyday tasks.

[@st4rbuk]

The fact that they didn’t address privacy and security as key components of the product design before making it known to the public is a very bad look for Microsoft

[@k.vn.k]

I can’t wait for Apple Intelligence. The biggest change ever to how we use computer is coming from Apple.

[@AxemanMessiah]

The controversy behind recall feature is a bit much as Google can see all of your browsing history and everything you've ever searched for anyways along with all your passwords on every device. I'm not sure what's a shocking here You've already sold your soul many many years ago

[@FluufyPvPTM]

That’s exactly what I argued for when I was at college, I thought this was an amazing tech and it’s not any different than google saving your passwords and history lmao

[@FluufyPvPTM]

Aslong as all the personal data is stored in my pc I fully support it

[@Lokaminiac]

You can’t compare Apple to orange. Copilot doesn’t have access to all my emails and personal info on my phone (and you don’t want to).

[@koctf3846]

I'm using the both. The Apple Intelligence feels stupid tbh, ChatGPT is smart alright, but it's often dragged down by the stupidity of Siri in unexpected ways, breaking the whole conversation context you just built.

[@swissheartydogs]

MS is way ahead, since Feb. 2023, thanks to Satya Nadella, true visionary. Copilot provides the best answers with links to delve (neither ChatGPT/Apple Intelligence nor Gemini). In any case, crucial to double check the info and its source (general comment, not only for genAI).

[@Dani-kq6qq]

You think Apple's own tests are prove that its model is better? Everbody says their model is better equal to openai's model, but so far never are in reality

[@eshwarmsms]

Seems like Apple's AI will train on ChatGPT responses when it can't respond to a particular query.

[@SAMSONICSCOMP]

What I know for sure is that none of the technologies is foolproof. Either can be hacked. The problem is that apple is clever at making you beleive it is not possible however they already have all you data with them.

[@jasontbrock]

How can Apple be better when it still hasn’t come out yet?

[@digitalmarketinghumans]

PC: We have AI cartoon cat. Apple: It's Over, we're Tim COOKED! 😩

[@Entertainnnn]

Too early fir comparison video. Should just review after you get the product.

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Microsoft Copolit… nope 😢

[@mateuspaes]

Why add chatgpt at all if their Apple Intelligence is so great? It’s a slippery slope, and who knows what’s actually going on behind the scenes. F that.

[@tylersmith6267]

Yeaaaaaa definitely trust Apple more than snap 😅 Just wish you can turn all this crap off but to be honest apples been doing “AI” (machine learning on device) for YEARS

[@rishinarang9966]

why are you jumping to conclusions without testing the AIs?

[@SuperDesignguy]

I don't trust any of these companies. And neither should you.

[@wjjohns04able]

I don’t want any AI on my pc. I’m tired of stuff running on my pc that I didn’t put there.

[@RovexHD]

VPN all day every day

[@kjw-vw6xr]

They just showed the fancy preview... Both of them have a long way to go... I don't trust any of the companies 100% for privacy and security.. but apple already killed my iPhone 15..😂

[@daniellebedev4601]

IPhoner

[@YattirSmith]

Yeah we have ti wait SIRI seemed great at the presentation..but as we all know siri was not really good

[@Eazidosit]

They all do on-service things. Apple introduced things Google mentioned at the end of 2023. For apps on device they all do it on device, Microsoft, Google, Apple. For some other things though, they all have to use the cloud for best results. If Apple AI was so much better, they wouldn't have to leverage Open AI who is using Microsoft Azure. They wouldn't be looking to use Google for Gemini. AI needs a search engine. Microsoft and Google have that. Apple doesn't ...

[@eshwarmsms]

Recall gets recalled

[@prk3437]

It's too early to speak anything about AI. And it would be interesting to see how it performs on a M1 MacBook for example, with a weaker NPU. In my opinion, Microsoft would still lead the charts in AI. Coming to the greedy part, which Apple is really good at, is restricting it to only iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max. So much for the processor supremacy that Apple couldn't get it work with previous generations. So that concludes it, processor supremacy is irrelevant if you cant bring a important feature to previous generation phones.

[@htoomyatzeyar4366]

Did you guys know they Recall the “Recall” feature so no longer included

[@hamodalbatal464]

Once you go Mac 💻 You can’t look back.

[@maninthemiddleground2316]

Huh?? 1:54 encrypted screenshots??? 😱😱 can’t get much creepier than this 😅

[@mrdlewis22]

Elon went nuts at aplle in seconds and is OK with Microsoft? 😂

[@pauljazzman408]

Love the was Apple has done Ai. On device or special private cloud compute or finally chat GPT. That all sounds secure unlike the terrible ‘recall’ on windows

[@orangeofmars2835]

Nice an thorough video. AI won't be the thing that decides future iPad Pro vs Surface Pro decisions for me (the OS will) but appreciate that Apple is don't some great stuff with AI.

[@fawazsalah5985]

0:39 starts by saying he doesn't have the devices yet to compare, plus the thumbnail is clickbait. Skipping the video.

[@davidaballo6339]

Sorry but I think the genmoji is for like 14 year olds… this is really the coolest feature? Really?

[@JaredFarrer]

Don’t fall for commercials I think rabbit r1 taught a lot of noobs that so wtf ya talking about? It’s not released yet

[@Iamgaurabh96]

X elite laptop vs macbook comparison?

[@juanpablofulco5495]

Apple fan

[@MrDejvidkit]

Is it just me or his head is jerking up and down?

[@Mika-s6e]

$20/month is too much fot GPT activation to Word/etc. on top of Office 365 offering. You can use that in VS Code at $10/month, anyways. Apple is still overpriced walled garden and many of workflows presented here are, frankly, not appealing to me. Android has quite good set of own AI features (e.g. in Pixel and Samsung). Phi-3-mini comparison: soon we know. Microsoft may have had longer time to finetune their model. Using less parameters reduces latency significantly.

[@danielworrell3438]

One of the reasons why I like Apple is there privacy and I could sue for violations of that agreement so I prefer to trust Apple with my data because I could get a easy payout which never happens 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@document6]

I love the conclusion and all I can think of is: Apple software running circles round MSFT bs … #groundbreaking 😂❤

[@dp8jl]

This guy is an apple fanboy, seems he knows more about open AI then one of the Open AI’s founder Mr. Elon Musk

[@barmandopj2951]

Apple intelligence iPhone 15/ 15 plus ❌ Latam ❌