Apple M2 MAX Mac Studio vs M1 Ultra : Adobe Export & Render Test

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Time to sit back and let someone else do all the exporting for you. Let's put the New Mac Studio with the Base Model insides up against last years top of the line M1 Ultra. Who will win?!?
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NEW M2 Max with 12‑core CPU, 30‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine
32GB unified memory
512GB SSD storage
2022 Mac Studio
M1 Ultra with 20-core CPU, 64-core GPU, and 32-core Neural Engine
128GB unified memory
2TB SSD Storage
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Chapters:
00:00 M2 Max Mac Studio Vs M1 Ultra
01:41 Quicktime 4K to 1080p Export
02:39 Compressing 20Gb File
03:30 Render In to Out Test
03:58 How Much RAM We Talking?
04:40 Premiere H.264 Export
05:25 Premiere H.265 Export
05:59 Premiere PreREs 422 Export
07:16 After Effects H.264 Export
07:40 After Effects ProRes Export
08:12 Murilo Session and Playback
08:52 After Effects H.264 Export 2
09:25 After Effects ProRes Export 2
09:56 After Effects Animation Export
11:05 Davinci Resolve Export Tests

[@JesseMoffett]

No other channel on YT gives a real world comparison like your channel…which has helped me decide what’s right for me better then anyone else. Thank You!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Awesome, I am so glad to hear this! Thanks so much for the great support along the way, I always look forward to your comments. Thanks Jesse, have a great rest of the week ✌️

[@LiamBrazier]

I'm an AE animator still working on an Intel i5 iMac drooling over these speeds. It's basically unfathomable to me the jump the silicon chips have made to everything.

[@JesseMoffett]

Same here! Can’t wait to get my hands on some of that sweet silicone!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

I know what you mean Liam, the first M chips absolutely blew my mind with the difference and feel. Apple has steadily increased the power every year and now we finally have our own little super computers, for 2K$ 🤯 Exciting times for sure. Thanks for checking out the vid and the comment!

[@julianperry4767]

@@TheFloodLightShow I'm using M1 Pro chip in my 14" MacBook Pro from 2021, I do programming in many virtualized OS at the same time, often with many chrome tabs in all those OS and it all runs on 16GB of RAM super buttery smooth. Apple chips are not playin' around, they are FAST

[@brightboxstudio]

I use AE casually, and after upgrading from an i5 MacBook Pro to an M1 Pro, the change in speed and responsiveness was was night and day. Not as much as with the M1 Ultra and M2 Max, but even with the M1 Pro I would never want to go back to the i5 for video work. It isn’t just that Apple Silicon is way faster, but it gets it done while staying quiet and cool. On the i5, video work always made it run hot with noisy fans.

[@JesseMoffett]

Dude I finally pulled the plug. Got the M2 Max 1TB 64GB, and wanted to thank you again for the help that I can’t find anywhere else on YT for this type of usage.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Jesse!!! That is great news and awesome choice! Hope you are liking the new rig and those speedy exports ;) Thanks so much for all the kind words and support over the year, really happy these vids can help out. Have a great weekend with the new computer!!

[@GearZenChannel]

That is the exact model that I just got after my trusty dual processor 2010 Mac Pro finally bit the dust. It really saddened me to see that machine die.

[@JesseMoffett]

YES My new favorite KZbin speed tests is Back! Hope you do the m2 Ultra soon!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Woohoo!! Thanks my man! The m2 Ultra is still stuck in shipping limbo, waiting at the door everyday for it to arrive lol. Coming soon 🙏

[@Reapertips]

thank you so so sooooo much for this video!

[@GerryScullion]

Awesome awesome awesome video. Best I've seen yet! Thank you! ❤

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Gerry!! Thank you so much for this awesome comment! So glad the video helped out. Going to put the new m3s through this test soon, curious to see how they do. Thanks again for checking out the vid and the great comment, take care ✌️

[@shootermcgavin4999]

Good content. Thanks for this. Subscribed.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Thanks so much! Glad the video helped out and thank you for the subscribe, you ROCK! ✌️

[@rockrbuddy]

Thanks for the great video. Are these tests both done on the internal hard drives?

[@andytrace]

Thank you, really appreciate the video 🙏

[@TheFloodLightShow]

My pleasure Andy, so glad these vids help out the community. I know the agony of having to decide on these big price items. Good luck and thanks so much for the kind words!

[@user-yi1dw3pt5g]

yeah thanks finally a real comparison.. and overall look - thankyou man

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Awesome!! So glad this helped out. Good luck with your decision and thanks for the great comment! Much appreciated!

[@christianmatts_bk]

thank you for the testing video. (im sure ill be corrected if im wrong) but i think both m1/m2 have same media encode chips. so encoding to h264/prores should basically be the same expect for ram difference. With after effects, once you render the timeline, then your export is basically just encoding to your preferred format. I think in the past you have done ae timeline playback/ram preview comparisons, which seem like they would be more accurate than exporting qt from a timeline that has fully been rendered to ram.

[@Sparky_oto]

Thanks for the great video! My workflow is mostly photography with Lightroom and Photoshop. Will I see the same difference?

[@ColinKlupiec]

Great video. Thanks. Your comment @01:00 is a key point. For example, the M2 Max still struggles with motion graphics in DaVinci Resolve Fusion. Sure, it works, but it's not as smooth or fast as you might think. 32GB RAM and 30GPU cores just isn't enough.

[@alma175w]

Great video comparison. Seems there’s no need to look at the M1 Ultra for the additional money. How would either handle batch editing for time lapse using LR? I routinely edit and export 720 image clips and find my M1 Pro 16 MBP struggles to get the edits applied uniformly. Have you worked with this sort of work flow? Any chance getting a comparison?

[@2cats1guy]

Thank you!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

my pleasure, glad it helped out! Thanks for watching an the comment ✌️

[@cylack]

Base M3 Max next year will be lit!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Lol, oh yes, my dream is finally here, export bars zipping down the line ;) Thanks for checking out the vid cylack!

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

M2 Max's performance is phenomenal for Compositing & Editing :) Do you think it will hold good for Fusion Studio in Davinci Resolve ? Awesome & Thanks Sir :)

[@roykelman]

From the look of it we have a relatively common workflow. And you just saved me about $1000. Not all heros wear capes

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Hey there Roy, thank you so much man, that really makes my day. Love helping the community out. Do you do live event shoots also? Presentations and conferences? These Mac studios really rip on that type of content. Thanks again for the kind words and checking out the vid, so glad it helped!

[@Martin_Edmondson]

It's great to see the jump every generation, reminds me of the early intel days. The fact that you used to have to splurge for a Mac pro to get this kind of power but is now available for $2k is kinda crazy. They just sit there quietly and discreetly, and churn through anything you can throw at it. My base model M1 Air & Mini are 'far' more power than I need, but Apple is knocking it out the park with these things. Love to see it. Thanks for the video! They rock!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Hey there Martin! Thanks for checking this video out 🙌 I agree, watching the evolution of these machines, we are seeing such massive gains now, it is very crazy. Little supercomputers in the home office haha ;). I wonder if the rise of 360 cameras and vr will start taking advantage of all this power, our little 4k and 1080 rectangle boxes are easy for this thing. I need to look into that medium soon. Have a great weekend over there and thanks so much for all the kind words, you rock!

[@Martin_Edmondson]

@@TheFloodLightShow Hey, thanks! Yeah, I agree. We should be seeing Apple unleashed with the Vision Pro..put all this amazing tech to good use. It even has an M2 in there(!), maybe AR and AI will free us from little 13" screens and be the start of a new world of computing. Exciting times.

[@alexblankenship7385]

Can't wait to get my M2 Max Studio with 1tb! The last Apple desktop I had was a 2010 Mac mini from when I was 5 years old. That was my very first computer that I used for many years and still have it.

[@willtveire]

Hi, can I ask if you are sticking to 32gb ram? Good luck with new machine...

[@alexblankenship7385]

@@willtveire Yes. I'm getting the 32gb ram with 30c GPU with 1tb configuration

[@TheFloodLightShow]

NICE Alex, you are going to love these new machines. Also, nice work keeping the 2010 going, that takes some skill and dedication. I have a 2012 iMac still running and they stopped upgrading the OS on it so it cannot run some newer apps 😭 A whole new world is going to open up for the tools you will have access to, super exciting!! Enjoy the new computer and thanks for the awesome comment! 🙌

[@YoureNowOnTV]

I hope the new Mac exceeds your expectations. May I ask why you went for the storage upgrade and not RAM? If you can add an external drive later without much performance loss but not RAM wouldn't RAM bet the better upgrade? Asking because I have a Mac Studio M2 with 64 gig 512GB SSD in my shopping bag on Apple's site.

[@alexblankenship7385]

@@YoureNowOnTV I don't do enough to where 64gb memory is necessary. I'm only getting the 1tb just because I want it built in. I want a very minimal desk setup. I also have a 2018 13.3 inch MacBook Pro with 8gb ram and have gotten by just fine. I have no doubts the M2 Max with 32gb memory should be an upgrade from what I'm used to. It all depends on your use case for it, if you do a lot of multi tasking then the 64gb is good to spec up to.

[@leewinter28]

I'm looking to upgrade my editing machine and I was wondering if you know if the M3 Studio will be out sometime in 2024? It's April now and I will wait if it's coming out. I see no reason not to go with the M3 Ultra if that is available. I can't imagine not being futureproof for the next 5 years with that machine.

[@jambononi]

To me it’s all about playing back complicated timelines. Even the m1 MacBook Air was surprisingly good at rendering. I have an m1 pro MacBook Pro and it plays really well with anything but once you get to a stream of 4 to 9 streams of videos at 4k it struggles. Even with optimised media etc in Davinci. It’s clear I’ve out grown the m1 pro. And adding film grain or complicated colour grades it just dies trying to play back. And that’s true with anything other than a high end machine. But I’m really curious whether the m2 max can do stuff like that. Because everything you’ve shown (even after effects to a lesser extent) can be done on the m1 laptops. But great video though! Super helpful just curious about putting more strain on the actual timeline. Because you can get a coffee while it renders (or go out for the day on the intel machines) but for playback it’s really painful if you can’t watch back what you’ve created in real time.

[@elcavador1843]

This is exactly what I am looking for, trying to decide on my next machine. I am not bothered either by render times, they are not so significant to me as it is the posibiloty to play in real time large timelimes, with hundreds of clips or after effects timelines with many effects, roto brush, plugins, trackings etc.

[@haimoon]

You meant the M1 ultra is more useful?

[@Ae-gk8ul]

Did you find one you recommend?

[@Ae-gk8ul]

@@elcavador1843 Did you find one you recommend?

[@burdbrain1598]

My god, imagine what the M2 Ultra will be like! I'm looking to upgrade from my 2019 i9 macbook pro. Haven't jumped to M chips yet, as was waiting for Adobe to get their act together. It looks like Premiere and AE are stable enough now, but as I always import AE projects into Premiere and render everything there, I need to see how stable Adobe bridge is before I make the leap. I was considering waiting another year for M3, if I can last that long, as the thermals should be much better with those chips.

[@jambononi]

I had that laptop and the m1 air with 8gb of ram was almost exactly the same in editing ability. I cannot stress enough how much better m1 is. Get an m1 pro and it will literally blow your mind. Even the battery life and the fact it doesn’t make a noise will blow your mind. The m2 max will be so much better you will wonder how you could stand using the i9. But as I said, I literally sold my i9 when the air came out to get as much money back as possible and did professional video editing for about a year. Then got the m1 pro. But the air and i9 were similar in premiere. And that was when it was less stable. I now use davinci (which is better in most ways) but after effects works nicely and I just render everything out (adobe bridge thingy was always glitchy on any system and also if you lose your project or it crashed you don’t have the rendered file, so it’s best to render anyway… always had issues with adobe hence why I’ve moved to davinci) But yes can’t recommend enough. M3 will be much better in all ways but m2 max will be a huge leap. Even the m1 pro is a huge leap.

[@basilbcf]

This is exactly the kind of comparison I've been looking for. I have a 24" M1 iMac and have been considering upgrading to a Mac Studio. I was struggling with whether to get the M2 Max or the M2 Ultra. While I'm sure the M2 Ultra would be even better, just seeing this comparison with the M2 Max vs M1 Ultra has convinced my that I'd be much smarter for my workflow to get the M2 Max and us some additional $$ to bump up the memory to 64GB and increase the SSD probably to 4TB.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Awesome, so glad this helped out! yeah the price of this type of power will now leave some left over for a new studio display, or save it for the vision pro when that drops. I know I am excited to try editing on my own personal IMAX screen one day lol. One viewer mentioned getting the base model every year, trading in the old since the new versions are now getting similar speeds as last years monster. Thanks for watching and the comment, good luck finding the right combo for yourself!

[@2cats1guy]

I was about to buy an M1 Max studio (used) but got an M2 Max studio on the refurb site for the same price. Glad I waited.

[@Ae-gk8ul]

Did you try it out?

[@gabeo9740]

Does the m1 ultra use the full 128gb ram in aftereffects

[@jonb8633]

I just need it to see this videos and LR

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Hey there Jon, I could give that a shot. What type of LR tests are you interested in seeing? Thanks for checking out the vid and the comment!

[@minigiant8998]

ive a base max m2 with 1tb and it loads webpages much faster than my old PC.

[@JayzBeerz]

How about the base Mac mini just for KZbin videos and shopping online?

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Hey there Jay! For just watching KZbin videos and online shopping, this little mini is perfect for your daily tasks. It’s when you start to push it with gaming and video editing, the heavy duty stuff, that the mini starts to slow down. But for your everyday normal user, this mini is perfect. Good luck with your purchase and thanks so much for watching and the comment! Take care.

[@dannyh1891]

Great comparison. For 4k video editors, would you recommend upgrading the ram on the m2 max to 64gb or is the standard 32gb sufficient?

[@julianperry4767]

32GB good for now, 64GB better for future proofing if you gonna have the device a long time

[@dannyh1891]

​@@julianperry4767thanks, was thinking the same. Do you think it's worth upgrading the 512gb memory too or are there cheaper work arounds for that?

[@RadeenChoudhury]

@@dannyh1891Just get external SSDs for that

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Thanks for all the tips everyone! I agree with Julian, If you are going to beef it up, the RAM would be my first choice. I always get a 1TB minimum for storage because my archiving skills are horrible. It always gets filled up pretty quick anyways 🤦‍♂️. External drives are great but they also have their issues failing or if the port gets damaged, just keep them safe and you should be good to go. Always something lol! Thanks for checking out the video and the comments, glad we can all help each out on this stuff, it can be a tough decision. Good luck!

[@raghavbhalla177]

Is the 1TB SSD for the base model faster in terms of read/write speeds than the 512GB base model? So far in the M2 lineup that has been the case, just wanted to confirm it for this as I was planning to pick the base as well but if 1TB gives 1.5x the ssd speeds then will upgrade the storage.

[@redbaronlast]

the 1tb SSD is about twice as fast as the 512gb ssd on the m2 Mac Studio (in benchmarks)

[@folkways3362]

so these computers are getting almost 2xs faster every year now. What does this mean for real world usage? The apps we use and the websites we visit are they changing too? How much speed do we need to do things like make videos and use apps like adobe and affinity and blender? Just last year the M1 pro with 16gb of ram and 500gb ssd was plenty fast and how long will the M1 pro be a good computer? Exciting times but also confusing. Where will all this power and speed take us? And just to let you know always great videos!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Thanks so much folkways!! I know what you mean about these jumps in power. I think apple can chill now and let the camera/vr/ar companies catch up to take advantage of these. Eventually the cellphones will be shooting 8k and everyone will appreciate that speed, but for now us creators are stoked. All these big codecs also keep demanding lots of processing power, we were all asking for it, and apple definitely delivered this time. I am with you on the exciting and scary times all in one, thats usually a good thing lol. Have a great evening and thanks for the awesome comment!

[@brightboxstudio]

For everyday apps, not much has changed. I notice that my older computers going back to a 2012 Mac mini dual-core feel responsive and snappy browsing websites, watching videos, and writing in Word. For that, no one needs a new computer. But if you tried to run After Effects or Blender on the 2012, that’s where you’d notice the age…and painfully so. Where is it taking us? 3D graphics and 4K+ video editing are now usable on lower spec computers that are easier to afford. And the big one is AI features: Older computers just don’t have the graphics hardware to do it. The impressive new Adobe AI Denoise feature can take half an hour or more per image on older Intel computers, but PCs and Apple Silicon Macs with great graphics hardware can do the same job in 15 seconds per image. Current hardware finally makes those features practical. That’s where you see it: Tasks relying on current GPUs and encoding/decoding hardware. The reason many of the video encoding tests in this video can run so fast is not because of the CPU, it is because of the specialized video encoding chips that were not available in older computers.

[@georged822]

Sorry if this is a noob question but I don't know much about video editing. If my camera can do HEVC/h.265 and if an m2 max or ultra can edit it smoothly without any dropped frames, then there is no reason to deal with ProRes, right?

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Hey George! Its kind of a personal preference and where the video is heading decision for me. Pro res is more detailed, easier to colorgrade but huge files. Good for big productions/films where you want to get the absolute best out of your camera. If the finished product is just going to youtube, h.265 is great 🤷🏼‍♂️ i like my cameras to just have the footage look good straight out of camera, not a color-correcting fan lol, go with what works for your workflow. These mac studios can handle prores no problem as well, its a beast. Hope that helps!

[@marcotomacelli9589]

Congratulations for the video. I would like to ask you a question. to work as a video maker and content creator, with premiere pro and after effects (with 3d effects and transitions). I'm very undecided whether to focus on a Mac Studio and upgrade it to 64GB RAM, or a MacBook M2 Max 32/1TB do you think could be right for me? To consider the fact that I don't have a fixed workstation, my idea was to use the Mac Studio with a portable monitor, and therefore wanting to take it with me when I need to move. Or at this point am I "satisfied" with the MacBook? Thanks 🙏🏼

[@TheFloodLightShow]

That’s a good dilemma to be in. I am actually totally addicted to my MacBook 14 inch over here even though I have the Mac Studio sitting on the desk. I am always grabbing the MacBook, as it can be traveled with, editing on the couch, and it still has most of the power that the Mac Studio would. I would probably say get a MacBook, and it sounds like we’re going to be seeing M3 chips in September so if you can hold off, maybe wait for those to drop so you can find a deal on the M1 and M2, or start fresh with a nice new M3 Max 🤯 Good luck and thanks for watching!

[@marcotomacelli9589]

@@TheFloodLightShow Too bad that m3 should come out in 2024 though. 😪

[@wongjohnvideo]

When you are doing comparison videos, please label clearly which computer is which both visually and audibly which makes it easier for searching.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Thanks for the tip! I labeled them a little better in description, hope that helps. Thank you for watching!!

[@jsardone]

The M2 Ultra fixes this issue.

[@ScottLahteine]

Kudos to Apple for cranking up the performance with the M2. I'm mildly disappointed that the M1 Ultra's interconnect is so inferior to the M2 Ultra's interconnect. My plan is to hold onto my M1 Ultra Studio for 5 years, as it's pretty sufficient for my needs. By the time I get around to that upgrade I should be able to get a refurbished 2nd or third generation Mac Studio for a really great price. In the meantime the one thing I do that actually pushes the limits of the M1 Ultra is Stable Diffusion. But the version I'm using is not yet optimized for Apple Silicon.

[@creativegreatsvisuals]

What do you mean the m1 ultras interconnect is so inferior to M2 Ultras ?

[@jakesouthard9175]

at this point, I need to upgrade from my m1 max laptop. But like you said, it's a bit scary because you know that next year, the M3 Max Studio will be out and I will wish I had waited lol. But it's a never ending cycle... My machine is really getting bogged down with these 8K timelines though.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

I know what you mean, it does get a little old running through the Apple cycle every year. Did you end up holding off for the M3 Studios? Will probably be dropping in March or June 🤷‍♂️. Thanks for watching and the comment, good luck!

[@kalyan0437]

"OMG, he put a lot of effort just to make this video. I appreciate it."

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Thank you Kalyan, I really appreciate your kind words. That means a lot to me. Thanks for checking out the vid and so glad it helped out over there. Good luck with your purchase!

[@davidwatchesyoutube247]

I went nuts buying both the 7k version of this and the 7k version of the Mac Pro laptop - and bro… even though I’ll be struggling to make the payments for a year lol (that’s basically a used car) I’ll be able to rip and handle everything I throw at them for the new channel!

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Sweet man, that’s kind of how I felt about the big purchase as well. After a few gigs or successful KZbin videos, hopefully it will pay itself off and keep going for more. I still have a ways to go lol. Glad to hear it’s working out for you!

[@aveoaudiobackgroundmusic983]

For music?

[@move_i_got_this5659]

Because of the M3 rumors I'm going to wait to go all out on a machine. I just bought the Mac Mini Pro base model to hold me over. M2 Pro chip will hold me over for years to come if need be. I may wait for an M3 super machine for a killer price. I want at least 64gb and 4tb. to future proof it.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

💪 Thats a good choice. There is one thing we can rely on, they are just going to get better next year and price will be the same. Waiting might be the best bet sometimes lol. Those M2 minis are awesome also, That will definitely hold up strong as an editing/everyday machine. Thanks for checking out the video and the comment!

[@move_i_got_this5659]

@@TheFloodLightShow The M3 is supposed to have the 3nm chips. And Apple has taken a massive interest in video games. So I can see myself getting a maxed-out Ultra.

[@creativegreatsvisuals]

Does after effects use 128gb ram on the m1 ultra ?

[@TheFloodLightShow]

it shaves off 6GB (I think) for other apps to run but yeah you are running over 100 GB RAM for after effects 🤯. Thanks for checking out the vid Creativegreatvisuals!

[@creativegreatsvisuals]

@@TheFloodLightShow your welcome . What do u mean by after effects shaves off 6gb but running 100gb of ram ?

[@MVREMD1]

What about timeline scrubbing?

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Very smooth on both machines, they are both beasts👹. Thanks for checking out the vid and comment!

[@MVREMD1]

@@TheFloodLightShow for sure, thank you for the video!

[@dkastra26]

Wait for the m3 or buy a Mac Studio m2 max now? Dont know

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Hey there, always a hard decision but if you dont have any pressing needs or projects that would benefit from the speed, nothing wrong with waiting. M3 chips will have the 3nm chip design and of course, the M3 will be 10-20% faster with everything else. These computers are so good though, hard to say. One thing you could do is get a base model, when the m3s drop, return and trade in for the new model. Just lease it lol. Good luck with the decision and thanks for checking out the vid!

[@dkastra26]

@@TheFloodLightShow if I can trade it then, don't know when the m3 drops

[@TheFloodLightShow]

@@dkastra26 Apple seems to be following a yearly release plan. So M3 mac studios would drop early summer 2024. Have also heard rumors of a revised imac with M3 chips probably releasing earlier than that. Hard to say, its all rumors right now :( good luck man!

[@dkastra26]

@@TheFloodLightShowi ordered the base modell now because i have a 4tb external ssd with 2800MB/s write and read speed

[@dkastra26]

@@TheFloodLightShow the m2 Mac Studio was released in july i think? Ok But the m2 Chip i dont know

[@stevenpike7857]

It doesn't seem like the 2 grand extra is worth it.

[@UserTenNumbers]

3d?

[@rumbecker5085]

This is why I think anyone who buys high end to future proof is an idiot. Buy what you need now, for most people the base model is good enough. You could have paid 4K for an m1 Ultra or 2K for a base M1 Max last year and another 2K for the Base m2 Max this year.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

Thats a good way to look at it rumbecker 💸 these base models are crushing now, might be all that a lot of us need. Thanks for watching and the tip, much appreciated!

[@blackmamba6938]

How dare you call the Max a base model.

[@TheFloodLightShow]

lol, I felt bad doing it. Will give it its proper respect for the m3s when they drop. Thanks for checking out the vid and the comment, needed a chuckle this morning 👍

[@niewazneniewazne1890]

Honestly all of the apple stuff has a reasonable price when I see it in dollars and convert it to polish złotych. Then I enter the polish apple website, it's mid basically the prices becomes high enough that you have to being to try to justify the purchase. "So it recoups it's cost after 1.5 years in electricity cost of an equivalent windows machine(I also chosen a nicer than usual case like fractal design north which costs 150$ here, and likely like is basically a budget case for 30-60$). But that's only if I would use both of those machines 8 hours a day at their max rated power draw and for the price on both cpu(Ryzen 9 7900x, I think x was cheaper than non-x for some reason) and gpu(rx 7800 xt). But: * I can also reduce power draw by around a combined 120W on gpu and cpu on that machine, drop the voltage by 50mV and see very little drop in performance and very likely none in stability. Realistically this power load can for the most part only be achieved with balls to the walls a well designed stress test(so not cinebench r24 as that's a somewhat realistic max load scenario). Okay so it fails to provide extra value via pure reduction of running cost which are spread over time. Because the idle costs won't be that high, so the delta in WattHours and those $$$ between the machines is lower on the idle spectrum than it is in balls to the walls scenarios, yes the difference is bigger in magnitude, but in a pure cost comparison it makes the value even lower due to upfront cost. So normally I wouldn't buy a machine at this price at all[talking about 24/32GB of ram 512GB variants of mac mini M2 and M2 Pro]. So the comparison point becomes a ryzen 5(natural choice, because it's easier to cool, so I can save money on the cooler, I can re-use the small form factor case... and put or save money on the upgrade)/core i5 current generation desktop, that's realistically all I need even if I would be developing applications not just for the desktop, but also for android phones. But I also have a machine already and it's already faster than I will need it to be for now. For a laptop I realistically don't need more than 14-8 hours of pure coding time. So a thinkpad T14 with a ryzen chip is all I need, that machine is expensive, so I would go for a used one, replace an ssd maybe ram and it's good to go. So it needs to provide or fulfill some opportunity. Easy it can be an iOS/ipadOS/macOS development machine. But is there really an opportunity in this field (which implies that I can only have by having this device) and is my personality up to a task of handling that opportunity, risk of monetary investment and am I confident or plainly foolish in my app idea. Which begs a question of can I trust myself to buy a 1500(24/512GB M2)-2000(32/512GB M2Pro)$ mac mini? Likely not, which immediately begs the answer 'I should at the very least develop myself first and make do with what I have, and it's not even going to be struggle-full on the machine performance/reliability part and being used to a setup. I should be financially responsible in this very instance, listen to my wallet, listen to my reason'. Let's say I really want to make an iOS app for some reason. * If that idea can work only on the domestic market. Then I target only a 7% domestic demographic of phone users. If the idea is a niche, then I might not even find enough users in that 7% demographics to justify a 1500-2000$ purchase. Naturally I can compromise and buy the base spec model lowering the opportunity cost down to 850$, that's very reasonable, I can go down to 484$ if I buy a used M1 8GB/256GB which everyone wants to get rid of. But then the problem becomes. How much ram do I need for iOS development. Is macOS ram usage closer to Linux, where you can comfortably use your device with 16GB of ram and can do a lot with just 8GB. Or is it like windows where the entire system takes 75-80% of 8GB of ram so all it takes on an 8GB machine is enabling a web browser to fill it all, so 12-16GB is the minimum and 24-32GB is a comfortable value. "