If the girl breaks the engagement then she must LEGALLY return the ring. The ring was given in anticipation of marriage.
@kaimikalaniYT9 ай бұрын
Actually it depends on the state. Some states see it as a gift so the ring doesn’t always need to be returned. It’s pretty dumb. Rings should always be returned if an engagement is broken
@donnarupert49269 ай бұрын
She should give the ring 💍 back!!! When you break-up you usually want everything that reminds you of that person GONE!!
@AlexRising_9 ай бұрын
Depends. In my state, it’s a gift.
@georgiegal67459 ай бұрын
Only time you shouldn't have to return a ring is if it is a gift with no expectations, just a "Here, I got you this." Or if you have been married already. You're married. It is now your ring. But you were given the ring with the intent to marry. You choose not to marry, return it. It was a promise given. Return it when you break that promise.
@yukilover49 ай бұрын
i left my fiancee for my own safety. i still have my ring hecause he didnt buy it. MY mother paid for it.
@glenystranter64239 ай бұрын
Once a CHEATER always a CHEATER.
@dymonddavis78479 ай бұрын
Vivian dumped a nice guy like Steve for Carl who disappeared when they have a child that he doesn’t even want and why she left Steve for Carl is a mystery.
@whyask54619 ай бұрын
Wait a second . . . a well written story without a bunch of obvious contradictions? People in the story acting with well defined motives and rationales? The listener being able to become invested in the story being told without glaring issues causing suspension of disbelief? What kind of MADNESS is this?
@whyask54619 ай бұрын
BTW: In case it isn't blatantly obvious enough I'm complimenting this story. Well done, give us more like this!
@arinavandam9028Ай бұрын
Sometimes the story's are so bad written and full of crap. This story is well written!! Introduce headline the trilling climax and ending ...!!
@shaynellmesadieu9 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the baby
@cybercat299 ай бұрын
Same here 🥺
@DizzyD16938 ай бұрын
𝙳𝚊𝚖 𝚒 𝚏𝚎𝚎𝚕 𝚋𝚊𝚍 𝟺 𝙾𝚙 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚖𝚘𝚖
@normafletcher3369 ай бұрын
Time does heal all wounds but it also wounds all heels. Worked for me once.
@daidersanto18679 ай бұрын
There are snails less slimy than the brother.
@BuhoPnu9 ай бұрын
A Hag Fish is less slimy
@youmadhuh63759 ай бұрын
She dumped her fiance for his childish immature brother . Why is she calling him with her problems?. It's not his business. I would've been overly annoyed with their nonsense messages... she really thought a man thatbwould sleep with his own brother's fiance would be someone she can count on?. She really thought carl would be trustworthy and loyal?. He wasn't even loyal to his own brother🙄... he's morally bankrupt and so is Vivian.. they belong together
@StoopidMonkeysMomma9 ай бұрын
It makes me laugh when everyone is physically in the same room and they are all in a group chat 😂 this story would have been WAY shorter if he would have blocked them both a long time ago
@ritasmith40422 ай бұрын
The way these stories go... Nag nag > block . The end 😂
@KCmetwo9 ай бұрын
so, he disowns his brother for stealing his fiancé, yet he doesn't block their phone numbers...guess he knew a train wreck was gonna happen.
@Eevie3614 ай бұрын
I heard that there's a way for people on apple phones to go past the block... but that's assuming that he did block them and these people somehow managed to find a way to get a hold of him.
@briannamcdaniel2669 ай бұрын
I hate people like Vivian and Carl. Also, good afternoon from a cloudy and rainy North Carolina!
@shaynellmesadieu9 ай бұрын
Hello from rainy miami fl
@patricialessard67879 ай бұрын
Good day to you Also! From New Hampshire where we awoke to a layer of snow this morning! Ah, New England, you wait just a moment and the weather will change, lol ! Have a great day !
@Lynnmb59 ай бұрын
Hi from rainy Pennsylvania!
@maxinemyers92159 ай бұрын
Good evening from chilly Pennsylvania and have a great Sunday 🌷
@glenystranter64239 ай бұрын
Me too. Good morning from cloudy and rainy Brisbane Queensland
@markmcelroy87229 ай бұрын
Ohhhh the effing No. She buy agreeing to marry was under a verbal contract. She broke said contract and must pay penalties. Starting with returning any and all jewelry. Then her and her AP must pay for cancellation fees. On top of all that compensation for breaking the contract.
@sakilynn9 ай бұрын
Vivian thought Steve was too uptight , only to learn the hard way that he was the mature one. Reap what you sow.
@ladylunaginaofgames409 ай бұрын
Girl dumped OP for a guy whose only good for flings
@pamelaechevarria80809 ай бұрын
Why come and text the older brother who hasn't gotten married nor has kid, why ask someone who hasn't experienced that part in his life. These ppl are way too self entitled.
@Madhattergal9 ай бұрын
Tell me Vivi. Was it smart to trade one brother in for another? Because clearly to me all I see is that you are left with a child and no income. Funny how karma got back at you.
@charmaignemarof66989 ай бұрын
How in the heck she going to call him stupid for ruining her wedding and call the parent stupid when she's stupid and not realize he can sue her for the ring 💍😞
@maxpowers91295 ай бұрын
He could probably even sue for emotional distress after pulling that stunt at the wedding. That would be traumatizing for anyone.
@RadieJemerson-io4zu9 ай бұрын
Vivian got exactly what she deserves.Trying 2'be self-righteous and narcissistic. Carl was a jerk all alone. But y bring a baby n the world of u can't take of it. It's unfair 2 the child.
@DarkKirby89769 ай бұрын
I know that Children are not meant for everyone but Carl is a disgrace to parenthood
@AndyJade-df6dj9 ай бұрын
Vivian isn’t any better either
@gamero31o9 ай бұрын
I have a theory. Vivian and Carl both feel that if they ended their relationship they would feel like all the sacrifice and consequences of their choice would be for nothing. They fully show their guilt by continuously contacting OP and insisting that he “get over it” when they seem to be projecting. Vivian knew getting a divorce from the start was the right way to go yet keeps Carl around and Carl keeps running away from his child but wants to stay with Vivian. They are both idiots who deserve each other.
@pamelacharbonneau31159 ай бұрын
Karma to Vivian.
@Lunar_29799 ай бұрын
Technically, Carl doesn’t have to be a father but he will have to send child support and divorce his wife
@bridgetdebourgh56989 ай бұрын
Good evening and have a great night everyone 👋🤗 From Louisiana 🐊
@crystalr50909 ай бұрын
Evening! Still windy and chilly here in Central Ohio. Hope everyone has a great rest-of-their-weekend. 🌬😊
@bridgetdebourgh56989 ай бұрын
@@crystalr5090 Good evening. It's 70° and windy. Enjoy your night 👋🤗
@crystalr50909 ай бұрын
@@bridgetdebourgh5698 33F here 🥶 lol
@bridgetdebourgh56989 ай бұрын
@@crystalr5090 🥶 I'm good 🤭 night 😴🤗
@lorannamoody70119 ай бұрын
Hope you had a fun day and a good evening! 🏝🏝🦎💤💤
@madbr39919 ай бұрын
Twist Carl was not the father.
@crazycatlady63969 ай бұрын
I was waiting for that! 😅
@danieljones42569 ай бұрын
Wait a minute this sounds familiar.
@Mehp28 ай бұрын
These brothers sound exactly the same
@danielabolivar17619 ай бұрын
Really good video!!! And i didn't my the lengh!!!
@vegasrenie9 ай бұрын
Can we celebrate VA's talent? 😊😊😊
@makaylaforbes67192 ай бұрын
So she walked away from him, got knocked up by his brother, then when the brother runs from his responsibility she expects the one she jilted to come to her rescue? Unbelievable!
@jewellmayo55859 ай бұрын
Good afternoon from sunny Arkansas
@ballzdeep81699 ай бұрын
Good afternoon. From Arkansas
@jewellmayo55859 ай бұрын
@@ballzdeep8169 what part of Arkansas are you from
@bridgetdebourgh56989 ай бұрын
Good evening from Louisiana 🐊
@cybercat299 ай бұрын
Good morning from Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada 🤗💖🇨🇦
@mischellyann9 ай бұрын
Way too much chit chat in this one.
@Tzaddi159 ай бұрын
Why didn't he just block them? What sense did this make?
@alicehirwa88487 ай бұрын
We wouldn't have a story 🗣️
@annecohen89274 ай бұрын
Clueless Vivian decided to cheat on Steve with his brother Carl. What was she thinking? She doesn’t deserve Carl.
@mariananderson14722 ай бұрын
WOW I guess he didn't know his brother, the signs was there 🤔
@arinavandam9028Ай бұрын
Here in the Netherlands the laws are so different. An engagement doesn't mean anything. And suing people isn't a thing that you can do easily.
@mariananderson14722 ай бұрын
I would got the ring back if she didn't wanted give it back I would sue her for it
@richardvannatter311329 күн бұрын
Or maybe get her finger from her..👹
@larrybunnell54808 ай бұрын
ell the engagement ring
@pollypockets5089 ай бұрын
I Text, You're so fricken talented
@savannahtarvin5 ай бұрын
Steve is a good man Vivian is a horrible person and I felt bad for the kid but she got what she had coming to her
@Mama_Bear_of_49 ай бұрын
Nice change in the story. But it was way to long.
@Ronin.Samurai9 ай бұрын
The video is perfectly fine. No one told you to click on the video. Be grateful for what you get, or get lost and watch a different channel.
@veritysimone9 ай бұрын
@@Ronin.Samuraiyou beat me to it! Well said!
@SapphirasMama8 ай бұрын
What she should have done is when she noticed her feelings changed, that she should have spoken to her partner and broken off her relationship. This may hurt for the first guy and may feel betrayed but at least communication was open.
@Eevie3614 ай бұрын
Use the correct fiancé / fiancée in the titles, like holy fuck it's not that fucking hard.
@lady25508 ай бұрын
That was a boring story
@elarafae38873 ай бұрын
It would have been better if the kid ended up in the grandparent's care since Vivian and Carl ended up being found chopped "by terrorist trying to find Steve in a foreign country but they got a wrong tip" that would have been a much nicer ending. The son wouldn't have to grow up seeing her mother racking her brains trying to put food on the table while his bio dad Carl disappears for the 749th time after "seeing" Vivian but not his own son. Cause Carl was very obvious in not wanting a child or being a parent